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Riding: Plan, Report and Racing => Ride Reports => Topic started by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 11:47:26 am

Title: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 11:47:26 am
So when we were discussing going to the Slumdog Bash, I was merely informed that I would be riding the AT as it's good to go and requires the least work.

OK then...

And, oh, by the way (THROTTLE says the night before)... we are riding with the boys (Greyhounds)!  :o

So what was meant to be a slow meander on one of my single cylinder ponies with just me and THROTTLE, became a bit of a group activity  :biggrin:

Weapons of choice were the KTM 950 SE and the Honda Africa Twin DCT.
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Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on November 14, 2019, 11:48:55 am
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Post by: Sputnik080 on November 14, 2019, 11:49:32 am
This can only be good!

Looking forward to your RR!
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Post by: edgy on November 14, 2019, 11:52:53 am
 :peepwall:
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 11:54:23 am
:peepwall:

 :P
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 11:57:32 am
So we all met up at the BP in Grahamstown and head out towards Bedford, hook a right on the gravel towards Kwandwe.... destination Baddaford Farmstall in Fort Beaufort.

1 Yamaha
1 KLR
3 KTM's
4 Honda's

Maybe one of the boys can post the route here.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:04:59 pm
We stop every so often to regroup and take photos, etc etc...

Rod keeps checking his bike and it seems the radiator is causing some problems. It is advised that he should abandon the trip, so he turns back to get some help and load the bike onto a trailer before there is any proper damage caused.

1 Yamaha
1 KLR
3 2 KTM's
4 Honda's
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Post by: Mev Vis Arend on November 14, 2019, 12:05:51 pm
 :sip:
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:09:58 pm
Random pic of the road and another of a whoops shot... I handed THROTTLE the camera and it must have gone off.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:14:21 pm
Two horses bomb out of the road in front of Dave and myself.

We decide to stop so that they can turn around and get back home, as they just kept running in front of us.

Dave takes a walk, but the one horse decides to carry on... not sure if he though Dave was an alien in his kit or what.

THROTTLE then says nah, this isn't going to work and bolts past the horse on the SE and TA DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, the horse makes a move for it and trots off to his mate.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:17:15 pm
Quick stop for a bite to eat at Baddaford's and we head out to Seymour for the dreaded Mitchell's pass. Well so I thought, as I had heard horror stories about it being quite treacherous when there's a bit of loose stuff.

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:22:14 pm
It honestly wasn't bad at all and not very loose either, but Marius had a bit of an off when he became cross-rutted. I stopped to help, but couldn't get much footing, so was utterly useless and decided to go find some level ground... which happened to be the same idea of the guys ahead of me.

THROTTLE helped with getting the bike up and all was good, except for a really bloody finger on Marius' part.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:25:27 pm
Came into Hogsback via the back entrance and had a lovely stay at the Arminel Hotel.

Nice place, but the vibe / atmosphere was a bit dull, so we headed out for supper.

I didn't see the point of both of us riding our own bikes, so I opted to pillion with the husband... although that said, the last time that happened we both ended up in a thorn tree!
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Post by: Lem on November 14, 2019, 12:27:28 pm
 :sip:

Gooi nog :thumleft:

Dis lieflike bike ry wereld daai.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:30:34 pm
Let me just explain the tally I am keeping....

1 Yamaha
1 KLR
3 2 KTM's
4 Honda's (1 off)

At the bar on the Friday night there was a fair (understatement of the year!!!) amount of KTM vs Honda banter. It got quite heated at times and I am sure someone *cough* Leon *cough* would be slapped by the end of the weekend. This carried on the whole weekend with the skewed verdict being that Honda was super shit and KTM is the best.

Time would tell...





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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:35:49 pm
Saturday morning the health nuts went to the Park Run. Seriously?

Breakfast was had at the Butterfly Bistro where we encountered a whole lot of weirdness.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:38:32 pm
Destination... Cathcart via the back road out of Hogsback. I think it is called the Happy Valley road? Or is it Nature's Valley?
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:39:03 pm
Happiness himself...  :biggrin:
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:39:53 pm
More pics of Happy / Nature's Valley...
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 12:44:23 pm
At the tar I told THROTTLE to swop bikes just until the petrol station so I could feel a bit of erm... power between my legs.

Jirre, big mistake, as we had forgotten that he had raised the bike and our luggage was pushing my fat butt forward, so I had less than my big toenail on the ground.

I kept praying that there would be no traffic and that I would not have to put my foot out at the upcoming STOP sign.  :imaposer:

Anyway, luckily there wasn't and I could creep my way to the petrol station, where we had a bit of a break.

Thanks to the guy with the long hair who very kindly gave me some duct tape to sort out my boots.
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Post by: woody1 on November 14, 2019, 12:49:41 pm
 :ricky:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:01:03 pm
So here is the thing... I ride once a year, I am a Mom and have a little boy waiting for me to get home safely and my riding is shocking at the best of times, so I was quite happy to be done for the day. Quite happy to find my way to Thomas River and just sit and veg... watch life go by...

But no................... the guys had other plans. They wanted to do a 50km loop.

FINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(In hindsight I should have just thrown a tantrum and said no, I wasn't going with... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut, then I wouldn't have had the adventure I did)

Off we go, through Cathcart and out some other side.

A way down the road I spot all the guys. Noxious has a puncture.

No THROTTLE in sight and I tell edgy I am slowly carrying on.

I find THROTTLE. He tells me something something if there is doubt wait something something the tar road is close by something something.

Yeah, I should have listened more.  :biggrin:




1 Yamaha
1 KLR (puncture)
3 2 KTM's
4 Honda's (1 off)

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:02:48 pm
Seriously gorgeous area. I even had some Impala rams jump out in front of me and sprint down the road.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:17:11 pm
Here is where I should have just waited. The road is kinda a T-junction, but not really. Just behind the bike and the signs the road veered sharply to the right. To the left was a smooth 'carry on this way' road.

In my defence, I did stop and ponder the route a bit, but judging (wrongly) by the signs, I figured well civilisation was only 28kms away, as the only sensible sign was for the police station.

Not so... but I carried on...

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:18:45 pm
And on... past seemingly well maintained roads and supposed signs of life...
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:22:45 pm
And still on I go.... even though in the back of my mind I am thinking surely the guys must have caught up to me by now!!!!!!!

Not panicked really as I am OK, the bike is full and how far can this fucking police station be!!!!!

Besides, it is a really pretty route and I am enjoying it.

I didn't even think anything of it when I stopped some random oke walking and asked him where does this road lead... his answer... TRANSKEI!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm... odd, but hey, Google says the tar road is near...

So on I go...

I come to a fork and think nee fok man, this is now a bit much. But lo and behold, I can't be lost cos I hear bikes!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAY!

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:25:37 pm
Dave, Mike and Noxious arrive.

Where the fuck are you going I can hear them think. Noxious phones edgy and he drops a pin... we are just a wee bit away from them... 40kms!!!!!!!!

I say, well the map said it's not much further and Dave confirms it on his phone. SHAME ON YOU LOT FOR LISTENING TO ME!!!!!  :lol8: :lol8:

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:29:33 pm
We carry on...

*shakes head*

I make a silly line error and plop down on the ground. Nobody around. FUCK! I have to pick up 240 odd kilograms on my own! Oh the joy!!!

1 Yamaha
1 KLR (puncture)
3 2 KTM's
4 Honda's (1 off, another off)
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Offshore on November 14, 2019, 01:35:29 pm
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You are funny.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:40:11 pm
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You are funny.

Thanks, I am sure my other half was not thinking it at the time.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:43:01 pm
Noxious comes back and says we have reached a dead end... abandoned farmhouse, padlocked gates.

Ag no man, I really don't want to traipse all the way back. Some parts were not fun at all.

Says he will go ahead and get up high so we can phone the rest of the guys.

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:48:16 pm
He phones and THROTTLE wants to speak to me... a whole lot of uitkak which I didn't feel like dealing with so I gave the phone back to Noxious. It wasn't like I was off the hook and knew kak was coming.

In the guys' defence, Dave also used my 'police station logic' and edgy never waited for Mike and Noxious, so they saw my tracks and followed me. Whoops!

So we just have to soldier on and head back the way we came.

Dave had a sandy moment and almost ended up in the dry river bed, but managed to put the bike down on the bridge. Right footpeg snapped clean off.

1 Yamaha
1 KLR (puncture)
3 2 KTM's
4 Honda's (1 off, another off... and another off)
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:51:18 pm
Finally got to the 'forked' road and bolted for home!

edgy, the tar road was not 2.7kms from there.  :P

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:52:05 pm
Basically, this is the little loop we were meant to do.

I went left instead of right and pretty much ended up at the Kei river.
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Post by: Noneking on November 14, 2019, 01:53:04 pm
Nice report!
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 01:57:53 pm
Eventually got to Thomas River, albeit a bit late.

Not looking forward to getting off the bike, as I can see STORMCLOUD THROTTLE is not happy to see me.  :'(

So so sorry Noxious, Dave and Mike, but really really thank you for being part of my adventure.

I get a MOERSE MASSIVE uitkak session from THROTTLE. At least he wasn't that mad, cos he brought me a drink to sweeten the blow.

I totally get where he is coming from though and I take it like a man, with tears streaming down my face.

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:06:54 pm
Face washed and feeling better I join the festivities.

What a lovely, unspoilt venue. The food was delicious, even though I had to braai three people's meat.  :imaposer:

Lots of drinks were had and the KTM vs Honda banter continued......

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:08:22 pm
The unfriendliest cat EVER...
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:10:17 pm
Good night's rest was had. Basic accommodation, but it was clean and comfy and there was a hot shower to wash all the dust away.

We wake up to looming clouds and a bit of rain spatter.

Ugh, not in the mood and I want to hightail it home on tar.

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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:16:55 pm
Of course tar is not an option and we head in to Stutterheim to refuel and head off on the dirt towards Breakfast Vlei.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:18:11 pm
I really wanted to take one of these home, but catching it might have been tricky.  ;D
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:20:01 pm
Pee stop and liberation of succulents...
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:20:45 pm
Which way which way... clearly I waited this time  :imaposer:
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:23:31 pm
We hit a bit of rain, but nothing too serious.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:23:56 pm
Sunshine of my life...  ;D
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:30:54 pm
Preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttyyyy!!!
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:32:53 pm
Some more prettiness...
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:35:56 pm
Close to Committee's Drift they are tarring the road and we have to take a detour.

I hope to God that whomever is doing it is still busy with it and it's not completed yet.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:37:08 pm
Almost home...
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:38:47 pm
About 5kms from home's turn off, I get told to take a right on the gravel.

I honestly never knew this road existed. It passes Makana Brick and takes us all the way into town.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:43:08 pm
Home safely and I take off my pants...

WTF is that on my leg!

Ooooooooooooooh, I see. I had accidentally (no, seriously) missed one of the turn offs and as I tried to turn the bike around, I lost my footing and managed to get myself wedged under the bike. Thanks lovely for coming to my rescue.

The exhaust managed to burn through my boot and my pants, yet no damage to either... except for this gorgeous blister on my calf. Looking pretty siff at the moment, with a lot of bruising up and down the leg.
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Post by: Firecoast on November 14, 2019, 02:47:54 pm
We also hear from the other guys... we had left before them to find our own way home.

Mike had to dump his Yamaha in the bushes, as it wasn't starting and the KTM 1290 had tyre issues.

Soooooooooooooo... in conclusion, I think we all know who won the KTM vs Honda argument.

SE the BEST of the oranges and although 3 of the 4 Hondas had oopsed... atleast we didn't have to put them on the back of a bakkie.

1 Yamaha
1 KLR (continuous punctures)
3 1 KTM
4 Honda's (1 off, another off... and another off and another)
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Post by: punisher on November 14, 2019, 03:53:30 pm
 O0 :thumleft:

great report  fanx
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Post by: Pilchie on November 14, 2019, 03:55:10 pm
 Glad you found your way back ;D
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Post by: Bring It On on November 14, 2019, 04:07:13 pm
Nice RR FC :thumleft:

Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: ALLEN I on November 14, 2019, 05:07:15 pm
Cool thanks for the ride great RR :ricky: :ricky:
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Post by: Kenzogs on November 14, 2019, 05:58:47 pm
Thanks for sharing.

You never get lost - you just get to a different destination.
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Post by: skydiver on November 14, 2019, 08:13:46 pm
Very nice report
That is one unique looking XT660Z ...... do you perhaps have a better photo of it?
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Post by: Ri on November 15, 2019, 07:05:02 am
Whoohoo! Faced the challenges of KGBs everywhere and still got home! Your side adventure sounds like a mini-epic - well done :ricky:

Thanks for the funny write-up, I chuckled all the way through.
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Post by: the ruffian on November 15, 2019, 07:21:02 am
Love your acerbic tone...

And the loaded between-the-lines observations...
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Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on November 15, 2019, 10:56:45 am
Lekker FC!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Post by: Dustbiter on November 15, 2019, 11:05:17 am
Thank you for all your photos of the Eastern Cape, Firecoast,
it was really great to see the areas in which I used to ride - except for your deviation to the Kei River - I cannot recall ever riding there! :laughing4:
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Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on November 15, 2019, 12:30:52 pm
Love your acerbic tone...

And the loaded between-the-lines observations...

MMMmmmm I dont sugar coat or indirectly state anything. So lets clear things up for those that might not know me or FC. I was BEFUCK  :dousing: by the time I could get hold of her I could have ripped her head off. And that was before I was told "All is ok!" at that moment I felt like a cat being baptized.

1. You have no idea where you are.
2. If the things went south before the other guys found you we would have never found you.
3. Hearing is not listening  :dousing:
4. Hearing / listening and not doing will hurt.
5. Two hours next to a tar road without contact is not cool.
6. Local telling us she hopes you have not gone where you did does not help.
7. These situations make me a antisocial rider that prefers riding alone.

The reason I ride bikes and not horses is that on a bike there is only one brain on the mode of transport.

This trip I liken to dropping a glass bottle of cockroaches and not being there to see them dart for cover.

On a plus

1. I/we got to ride
2. Company was good
3. Accommodation was good
4. Food was good.
5. Banter was funny. To a point! after that it ........ lets just leave it at to a point.
6. Riding the SE again reminded me why I love it so. Having your hands shake like you drank to much the night before, stuttering when you talk and catching yourself screaming with excitement in your helmet is why I love my mistress so. Riding her is like having cowboy sex. I have to remind myself all the time that she is in charge and not me. RESPECT her!

In FC's defense I should have said no you stay with the group, but she is independent and its one of the things I respect the most about her so how could I curtail that.. So its my fault! It wont happen again!

In closing thank you FC for making this weekend possible and for the effort you put in to getting us on the bikes. It is and was appreciated.




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Post by: Black_Hawk on November 15, 2019, 03:40:07 pm
Great RR, thanks for sharing  :thumleft:
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Post by: Rooies on November 15, 2019, 05:32:00 pm
Great report, thanks!
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Post by: BMWPE on November 15, 2019, 07:13:27 pm
Great  Ride Report   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Thanks FC
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Post by: windswept on November 15, 2019, 08:36:13 pm
Thanks for the RR. That extra bit that you rode made it more interesting.  :thumleft:
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Post by: Sprocketbek on November 15, 2019, 08:41:22 pm
Nice RR and great pics FC!  :biggrin:
At least Honda can be part of the conversation nowadays, a few years ago they were not.
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 15, 2019, 10:32:11 pm
I really hate this type of brand-bashing. :xxbah:

 :pot:
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Post by: jaybiker on November 15, 2019, 11:28:44 pm
Nothing more ridiculous than brand bashing........
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Post by: geno.box on November 17, 2019, 12:10:45 am
Lekker RR , thank you :thumbsup

Makes me think I should stop putting it off and go ride the EC. How's Nov to Feb? I'm guessing on the hot side :o

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Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on November 17, 2019, 01:02:19 am
Great report, thanks!
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Post by: Sardine on November 17, 2019, 05:29:17 am
 :ricky:
Great write-up.
Mikeís Yamaha looks good in white!
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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 07:33:29 am
I asked FC if I could do a little "mini rr" on this post concerning the "little detour" she took to the "police station".

So here's my take on the "mistry Police Station and the road leading to it. 

Years ago when I still had my Transalp and later my blue S10, the wife and I explored roads/tracks in and around King William's Town (day trips).  Back then I used Google Earth to look for tracks which worked quite well, but it will not tell you about locked gates and the likes.   So we blindly followed the routes that I tracked and hoped for the best. 
So one day I saw this little road on Google earth, it would take me over the Kei river into the old Transkei and from there it showed a road/track back to Bolo and then civilization.    I could not remember the distance but it was doable as a day outing. 

We saw the tracks on Google earth and this is what we experienced in real live.    :biggrin:
From Stutterheim on the N6 north bound, 23km we got a gravel road on our right.  Signs here indicated the following, Henderson Police, Bacela Police and Ferndale 4X4. 
Another 5km or so on this gravel road, which is not numbered, we reached a crossing.  At this junction we took a left and followed the road for another 11/12km where we found a tipe of T Junction.  Here we saw a very old and rusty road sign board indication various place like Henderson (left), Bacela (right), Cathcart (left), East London (back), and Toise (back).  We took the road to the right at the "T-Junction towards Bacela Police Station.  Up to this point the road was in a fair condition with some rocky pieces here and there.  We also noticed that the scenery changed a bit, we found beautiful mountains in the distance and the valleys dropping below.
We traveled for another 10 odd km's on this good condition road with magnificent surrounds until we reached a single lane bridge over the Thomas River.
2 Km's further from the bridge on this road towards Bacela Police Station, the road started to deteriorate and almost became a single lane/tweespoor.  We had rocks/mountains on our left with some heavy/scary drop offs to our right.  The going was getting slower and I had to start working harder to  keep the bike with pillion on track.  In spite of the road condition the scenery surrounding us was awesome.  We carried on a further 15km's and then we found Bacela Police Station.

Well, Bacela Police Station is/was non existing, it is and old Police Station abandoned and left to become a ruin.   We took a quick peak inside and found all sorts of documents and files in the rooms/offices.  We took some photos and left to proceed further to cross the Kei river into the Transkei.
Not more than 3km from the Police station we reached a locked gate with the Kei on our right.  This is where we had to turn around and look for an alternative route.     
   
In summary, I found the road to be a toughie back then, not really technical but rough and rocky, climbing up and over a few mountains to the bottom of the Kei River, a road that you had to concentrate and a road that gave you a workout.  The scenery however made this a great outing and worth the effort. 

We did this piece of road a couple of times in the past just for the fun off it and to have a lekka picnic at the Kei River.  We however neglected to visit this place for a good couple of years, And when I saw this rr from FC,  memories came flashing back and I though it would be good to share my knowledge of the area.  Hats off to FC for doing this piece of road on the big AT, well done girl.   :thumleft:

Attached some phodies from our last visit to that area on our S10.  If memory serves me correct is was in 2011.

1. The 1st two "maps" is where FC should have waited for the rest of the crew.   :biggrin:

2.  Some random photos from the rusted sign to the single lane bridge over the Thomas River.  Note the scenery and the green surroundings. 

3.  And then some scenic photos towards the Police Station


     
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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 07:35:26 am
Some more towards the Police Station.

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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 07:39:57 am
Bacela Police Station


Note the entries into the Occurrence Register back then, they still mention B/ Constable (Bantu Constable) and you can see why the Police Station closed down, there was not much going on.    :eek7:
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Post by: edgy on November 19, 2019, 07:40:20 am
Wow that looks stunning VA, cant believe how lush and green compared to how the veldt looks now! :o
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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 07:42:35 am
The rest of the road down to the locked gate and a bit of the road on our track back.

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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 07:44:26 am
Last bit.  Hope you enjoy, we did back then. 

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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 07:46:51 am
Wow that looks stunning VA, cant believe how lush and green compared to how the veldt looks now! :o

Yip, it looks horrible now.  Unbelievable compared then to now.    :eek7:  :eek7:

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Post by: Lem on November 19, 2019, 07:48:55 am
jis maar julle het darem lekker speelplek daarso  :ricky:
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Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 08:04:56 am
To add to my story, FC had us itching to ride that road again, so we decided to do that route again yesterday, Monday.

Disaster however struck us as I picked up a porridge on the back wheel and had to repair it. This was about 2km from the old Bacela Police Station. Once the wheel was taken of and the tube out we found that the valve was missing from the tube.  We had a replacement tube, but one for the wife 250 and not for my 650.  I however still used the tube just to pinch the damn thing when I pulled the tyre back onto the rim. 
Off came the tyre again and the 2 pinched areas were patched. 
In the tube went and tyre back on the rim.  I pumped the wheel but it would not keep pressure. 
Out came the tube again, pumped the tube, no puncture, the tube kept the air.  In went the tube again, tyre back on, pump the bastard, low and behold, it would not keep the air.   :dousing:  :dousing:  :dousing:

I road the fucker out with the flat and all, albeit only to Thomas River were I waited for the wife who proceeded home and fetched the vehicle and trailer.  We left the house at 8 in the morning and only arrived back home at 18:30.   

To come back to the Bacela road we did yesterday, they/who ever in the mean time repaired most of the road towards the old Police Station.  It is a lot tamer than what it was back then, but still a very scenic route, although it is very dry at the moment and there is hardly any water in both the Thomas river and the Kei river.   
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 08:06:41 am
jis maar julle het darem lekker speelplek daarso  :ricky:
   :biggrin:  Pragtig man, dis net so entjie van Thomas Rivier, ons kon hom eintlik besoek het toe julle laas hier was.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: edgy on November 19, 2019, 08:32:39 am
Extra thick tube....they love to do that ??
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 08:34:49 am
Extra thick tube....they love to do that ??

 :eek7:  And it was.   :eek7:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: edgy on November 19, 2019, 08:43:18 am
Yip we decided a few years back after many torn valves that it is not worth the additional cost! 
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 19, 2019, 08:49:03 am
Wow Vis Arend! What a contrast!!! Hardly any water when we went through there and not as lush... pretty bleak actually, but nonetheless it was a really pretty area to ride in.

As you said, nothing really technical and the road was relatively good, but at times (generally when I had lost the fun factor and my sense of humour) the AT became a bit heavy through some of the loose stuff. There were also a fair amount of big speed humps which meant a slower pace. Did not want to hit one of those the wrong way and come off.

There were plenty of roads shooting off to the right and left. Thank goodness I kept on the 'straight' path.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on November 19, 2019, 12:36:20 pm
Wow Vis Arend! What a contrast!!! Hardly any water when we went through there and not as lush... pretty bleak actually, but nonetheless it was a really pretty area to ride in.

As you said, nothing really technical and the road was relatively good, but at times (generally when I had lost the fun factor and my sense of humour) the AT became a bit heavy through some of the loose stuff. There were also a fair amount of big speed humps which meant a slower pace. Did not want to hit one of those the wrong way and come off.

There were plenty of roads shooting off to the right and left. Thank goodness I kept on the 'straight' path.  :biggrin:
What is your opinion of the DCT FC?
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 01:00:47 pm
FC, thanks for allowing me to do a little right up on that area in your rr.   :thumleft: :thumleft: 
As you mentioned, not really technical now but it still needs your attention, and please, do not mention those humps.  For crump sake, I battled there with the big S10 with a pillion.  Just as you picked up speed you brake for the damn hump. 

I still think you did very good riding there with that size bike.  I now noticed that the little scooters is just a breeze in that area, the loose stuff and humps becomes a playground for these little bikes. 

On a plus side, while we were busy fixing the tube a farmer stopped and assisted where he could.  He actually mentioned to us another road leading out of there through some farm roads.  He said we must take that route back to Cathcart.  He however said it is a nice challenging track, well just what we want.  Nannie and I will explore it soon and report back on it.



   
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 19, 2019, 02:47:05 pm
FC, thanks for allowing me to do a little right up on that area in your rr.   :thumleft: :thumleft: 
As you mentioned, not really technical now but it still needs your attention, and please, do not mention those humps.  For crump sake, I battled there with the big S10 with a pillion.  Just as you picked up speed you brake for the damn hump. 

I still think you did very good riding there with that size bike.  I now noticed that the little scooters is just a breeze in that area, the loose stuff and humps becomes a playground for these little bikes. 

On a plus side, while we were busy fixing the tube a farmer stopped and assisted where he could.  He actually mentioned to us another road leading out of there through some farm roads.  He said we must take that route back to Cathcart.  He however said it is a nice challenging track, well just what we want.  Nannie and I will explore it soon and report back on it.



   

Ek wil weet waar daai een pad gaan... net na die game fence is daar 'n plateau. Dit lyk my daar is 'n paar afwyksels van die main pad... anyway, dan gaan jy af in die vallei en die pad maak 'n draai. Die pad na die plaashuis of Kei rivier loop regs. Ek het daar gestop, want daar was 'n ander pad links met 'n oop plaashek wat nogal styl (spelling) bult op is. Dis toe ek die bikes hoor en ons is toe reguit aan.
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 19, 2019, 02:55:40 pm
Wow Vis Arend! What a contrast!!! Hardly any water when we went through there and not as lush... pretty bleak actually, but nonetheless it was a really pretty area to ride in.

As you said, nothing really technical and the road was relatively good, but at times (generally when I had lost the fun factor and my sense of humour) the AT became a bit heavy through some of the loose stuff. There were also a fair amount of big speed humps which meant a slower pace. Did not want to hit one of those the wrong way and come off.

There were plenty of roads shooting off to the right and left. Thank goodness I kept on the 'straight' path.  :biggrin:
What is your opinion of the DCT FC?

Chris... I honestly love the bike. It doesn't feel heavy at all. Sometimes lighter than my 640. Although it gets a bit heavy when I am tired and have struggled with it through the rough stuff. That said, I don't think the bike is to blame. I am very unfit. I really wanted to ride the 640 or even the DR on this trip, but then I wouldn't have learnt much.

It makes me feel far more capable than I am, especially because it takes the think work out of changing gears.

It will happily putter along, but will also happily do high speed when prompted.

I am yet to try the manual settings and although I had it on Sport for a while, I found it a bit twitchy so I switched it off.
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Sheepman on November 19, 2019, 03:01:30 pm
Enjoyed your RR - thanks  :thumleft:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Vis Arend on November 19, 2019, 05:19:07 pm


Ek wil weet waar daai een pad gaan... net na die game fence is daar 'n plateau. Dit lyk my daar is 'n paar afwyksels van die main pad... anyway, dan gaan jy af in die vallei en die pad maak 'n draai. Die pad na die plaashuis of Kei rivier loop regs. Ek het daar gestop, want daar was 'n ander pad links met 'n oop plaashek wat nogal styl (spelling) bult op is. Dis toe ek die bikes hoor en ons is toe reguit aan.

Was dit hier gewees

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: subie on November 19, 2019, 05:39:53 pm
Thank you . Enjoyed reading your RR.
Also respect  :thumleft:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 20, 2019, 08:20:15 am


Ek wil weet waar daai een pad gaan... net na die game fence is daar 'n plateau. Dit lyk my daar is 'n paar afwyksels van die main pad... anyway, dan gaan jy af in die vallei en die pad maak 'n draai. Die pad na die plaashuis of Kei rivier loop regs. Ek het daar gestop, want daar was 'n ander pad links met 'n oop plaashek wat nogal styl (spelling) bult op is. Dis toe ek die bikes hoor en ons is toe reguit aan.

Was dit hier gewees

Nee. Die fotos wat ek het wys dit nie, maar dis waar die ander my gekry het. Sal gou kyk op Google of daar 'n pad is.
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: subie on November 20, 2019, 08:52:11 am
To add to my story, FC had us itching to ride that road again, so we decided to do that route again yesterday, Monday.

Disaster however struck us as I picked up a porridge on the back wheel and had to repair it. This was about 2km from the old Bacela Police Station. Once the wheel was taken of and the tube out we found that the valve was missing from the tube.  We had a replacement tube, but one for the wife 250 and not for my 650.  I however still used the tube just to pinch the damn thing when I pulled the tyre back onto the rim. 
Off came the tyre again and the 2 pinched areas were patched. 
In the tube went and tyre back on the rim.  I pumped the wheel but it would not keep pressure. 
Out came the tube again, pumped the tube, no puncture, the tube kept the air.  In went the tube again, tyre back on, pump the bastard, low and behold, it would not keep the air.   :dousing:  :dousing:  :dousing:

I road the fucker out with the flat and all, albeit only to Thomas River were I waited for the wife who proceeded home and fetched the vehicle and trailer.  We left the house at 8 in the morning and only arrived back home at 18:30.   

To come back to the Bacela road we did yesterday, they/who ever in the mean time repaired most of the road towards the old Police Station.  It is a lot tamer than what it was back then, but still a very scenic route, although it is very dry at the moment and there is hardly any water in both the Thomas river and the Kei river.   

Some days are just like that. Got a flat in thick sand in the Kalahari once around 09H00 in the morning. Had a bottle of sweet wine but no water with me. As it got hotter and eventually taking the wheel of 11 times I was picked up late afternoon by a bakkie and dropped of in Bray.  Just parked the bike plonked myself in the bar and guzzled down 8 beers.
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 20, 2019, 09:12:00 am
Nee daar wys niks op Google nie, so dis seker 'n plaas pad of some sort.

Hier het ek gestop. Die eerste foto... net agter die bike is die pad op na nerens. Dit het 'n hek wat oop was.

Die foto met die mans in kan jy sien agter hulle waar die pad afkom. Dit maak 'n draai en dan loop die pad na regs, waar almal gestop het.

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Tiger8 on November 20, 2019, 01:02:50 pm
Thanks FC, great RR, you understate you capabilities  :ricky:    :thumleft:


PS: Didn't think Father Chrismis is such a grumpy old fart, usually he is portrayed as a jolly fellow................. :peepwall: :pot: :lol8:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Vis Arend on November 20, 2019, 01:25:18 pm
Nee daar wys niks op Google nie, so dis seker 'n plaas pad of some sort.

Hier het ek gestop. Die eerste foto... net agter die bike is die pad op na nerens. Dit het 'n hek wat oop was.

Die foto met die mans in kan jy sien agter hulle waar die pad afkom. Dit maak 'n draai en dan loop die pad na regs, waar almal gestop het.

Dit wil amper vir my lyk soos die pad wat die boer vir my verduidelik het wat weer by Cathcart uitkom, maar ek is nie seker nie.

As ek so vinnig kan onthou weet ek van omtrent 4 afdraaie op daai stukkie pad na die brug waar die AT geval het, so dit kan enige een wees. 
Ek weet egter van daai paaie loop berg op, die boere het watertenks op die berg.  Daar waar ons bv. gestop het is daai pad links ook berg op na 'n watertenk. 

Ons sal jou maar moet saamvat volgende keer om ons te wys watter pad jy van praat.   :biggrin:   
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 20, 2019, 02:48:29 pm
Nee daar wys niks op Google nie, so dis seker 'n plaas pad of some sort.

Hier het ek gestop. Die eerste foto... net agter die bike is die pad op na nerens. Dit het 'n hek wat oop was.

Die foto met die mans in kan jy sien agter hulle waar die pad afkom. Dit maak 'n draai en dan loop die pad na regs, waar almal gestop het.

Dit wil amper vir my lyk soos die pad wat die boer vir my verduidelik het wat weer by Cathcart uitkom, maar ek is nie seker nie.

As ek so vinnig kan onthou weet ek van omtrent 4 afdraaie op daai stukkie pad na die brug waar die AT geval het, so dit kan enige een wees. 
Ek weet egter van daai paaie loop berg op, die boere het watertenks op die berg.  Daar waar ons bv. gestop het is daai pad links ook berg op na 'n watertenk. 

Ons sal jou maar moet saamvat volgende keer om ons te wys watter pad jy van praat.   :biggrin:   

Ek ry graag saam... net met ietsie 'n bietjie ligter!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on November 21, 2019, 12:52:52 pm
Thanks FC, great RR, you understate you capabilities  :ricky:    :thumleft:


PS: Didn't think Father Chrismis is such a grumpy old fart, usually he is portrayed as a jolly fellow................. :peepwall: :pot: :lol8:

T8 thanks for the compliment and yes I can be grumpy at times :biggrin:

Putting my biggest pet hate (people not listening to instructions or conversation) aside. I think you might appreciate where my rant come from, I had last seen FC +/- 25km before the turn in question and that traversed two passes with drop offs on the side. Besides for two hours having to endure the constant vomiting of brand bashing from a fellow rider (that he finds immensely funny), I was acutely aware that FC was on her own, I know this because the 3 riders that eventually met up with her where originally with me as they where fixing a puncture. I had no contact with her (voice mail) as she had zero reception. She could have gone over the side of the road anywhere from my last sighting till the turn off and I had not noticed or a better scenario she was just lost after that turn. Lost on a satellite road in the Transkei with no way of contact or of finding her is something had in fact gone wrong. Please understand the best case scenario played out with fate playing its hand when first one rider joined her and then later the another two. This was at least a hour and a half later. A time when many scenarios where playing out in my head. I am a very calm person under pressure normally and get what has to be done, done but I challenge any WD here to put themselves in a situation like this with their wife or girlfriend MIA with no way of finding or going to her for a considerable amount of time. Trust me it was not easy.

Looking back I BLAME MYSELF for breaking one of my golden rules, I let the riding pack break up and fragment. This and a few other reasons is why I dont and will not organize trips for groups anymore. This incident casts my decision in stone. My reasoning known to a few is why I have, and will only, selfishly be solo riding or ride with one partner. I will no longer be responsible for other peoples lives, I am sorry but actions of others has caused this decision. I will still hook up at overnight stops and go to bashes but if I ride with the group it will be at the back, obviously if I am welcome. It was/is a hard decision as I really loved the planning and logistic stage coupled with the culmination of seeing it take shape in the actual ride. My greatest pleasure was seeing a rider conquer obstacles and rides that they thought impossible for them and as a result I have seen a few riders go from battling to pull off on their first ride to becoming very capable DS riders. Pushing their and my boundaries has been a pleasure over the years. See you in the dust!  ;)
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: subie on November 21, 2019, 02:06:23 pm
Thanks FC, great RR, you understate you capabilities  :ricky:    :thumleft:


PS: Didn't think Father Chrismis is such a grumpy old fart, usually he is portrayed as a jolly fellow................. :peepwall: :pot: :lol8:

T8 thanks for the compliment and yes I can be grumpy at times :biggrin:

Putting my biggest pet hate (people not listening to instructions or conversation) aside. I think you might appreciate where my rant come from, I had last seen FC +/- 25km before the turn in question and that traversed two passes with drop offs on the side. Besides for two hours having to endure the constant vomiting of brand bashing from a fellow rider (that he finds immensely funny), I was acutely aware that FC was on her own, I know this because the 3 riders that eventually met up with her where originally with me as they where fixing a puncture. I had no contact with her (voice mail) as she had zero reception. She could have gone over the side of the road anywhere from my last sighting till the turn off and I had not noticed or a better scenario she was just lost after that turn. Lost on a satellite road in the Transkei with no way of contact or of finding her is something had in fact gone wrong. Please understand the best case scenario played out with fate playing its hand when first one rider joined her and then later the another two. This was at least a hour and a half later. A time when many scenarios where playing out in my head. I am a very calm person under pressure normally and get what has to be done, done but I challenge any WD here to put themselves in a situation like this with their wife or girlfriend MIA with no way of finding or going to her for a considerable amount of time. Trust me it was not easy.

Looking back I BLAME MYSELF for breaking one of my golden rules, I let the riding pack break up and fragment. This and a few other reasons is why I dont and will not organize trips for groups anymore. This incident casts my decision in stone. My reasoning known to a few is why I have, and will only, selfishly be solo riding or ride with one partner. I will no longer be responsible for other peoples lives, I am sorry but actions of others has caused this decision. I will still hook up at overnight stops and go to bashes but if I ride with the group it will be at the back, obviously if I am welcome. It was/is a hard decision as I really loved the planning and logistic stage coupled with the culmination of seeing it take shape in the actual ride. My greatest pleasure was seeing a rider conquer obstacles and rides that they thought impossible for them and as a result I have seen a few riders go from battling to pull off on their first ride to becoming very capable DS riders. Pushing their and my boundaries has been a pleasure over the years. See you in the dust!  ;)

Yep that will instantly blow my fuse big time and put a serious damper on the rest of the  trip for me  :xxbah:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Tiger8 on November 21, 2019, 02:32:20 pm
I hear you TJ and fully understand your feeling of helplessness, having experienced that "not in Control" feeling myself. Any of us would have been going out of our mind in your situation, very glad that all turned out well bud.

The flood of emotion felt in relief are almost worse than the angst of the situation.


PS: TJ, I cannot imagine you riding at the back of any group, having seen your riding 1st hand  :lol8:      But you are always welcome to join any ride with me, if and when we head the same way  :thumleft:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on November 21, 2019, 02:50:05 pm
I hear you TJ and fully understand your feeling of helplessness, having experienced that "not in Control" feeling myself. Any of us would have been going out of our mind in your situation, very glad that all turned out well bud.

The flood of emotion felt in relief are almost worse than the angst of the situation.


PS: TJ, I cannot imagine you riding at the back of any group, having seen your riding 1st hand  :lol8:      But you are always welcome to join any ride with me, if and when we head the same way  :thumleft:

Agreed about that flood of emotion it was not cool. Humbled by your response and thanks for the offer.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: KaTooMatt on November 28, 2019, 03:25:02 pm
Thanks FC, great RR, you understate you capabilities  :ricky:    :thumleft:


PS: Didn't think Father Chrismis is such a grumpy old fart, usually he is portrayed as a jolly fellow................. :peepwall: :pot: :lol8:

T8 thanks for the compliment and yes I can be grumpy at times :biggrin:

Putting my biggest pet hate (people not listening to instructions or conversation) aside. I think you might appreciate where my rant come from, I had last seen FC +/- 25km before the turn in question and that traversed two passes with drop offs on the side. Besides for two hours having to endure the constant vomiting of brand bashing from a fellow rider (that he finds immensely funny), I was acutely aware that FC was on her own, I know this because the 3 riders that eventually met up with her where originally with me as they where fixing a puncture. I had no contact with her (voice mail) as she had zero reception. She could have gone over the side of the road anywhere from my last sighting till the turn off and I had not noticed or a better scenario she was just lost after that turn. Lost on a satellite road in the Transkei with no way of contact or of finding her is something had in fact gone wrong. Please understand the best case scenario played out with fate playing its hand when first one rider joined her and then later the another two. This was at least a hour and a half later. A time when many scenarios where playing out in my head. I am a very calm person under pressure normally and get what has to be done, done but I challenge any WD here to put themselves in a situation like this with their wife or girlfriend MIA with no way of finding or going to her for a considerable amount of time. Trust me it was not easy.

Looking back I BLAME MYSELF for breaking one of my golden rules, I let the riding pack break up and fragment. This and a few other reasons is why I dont and will not organize trips for groups anymore. This incident casts my decision in stone. My reasoning known to a few is why I have, and will only, selfishly be solo riding or ride with one partner. I will no longer be responsible for other peoples lives, I am sorry but actions of others has caused this decision. I will still hook up at overnight stops and go to bashes but if I ride with the group it will be at the back, obviously if I am welcome. It was/is a hard decision as I really loved the planning and logistic stage coupled with the culmination of seeing it take shape in the actual ride. My greatest pleasure was seeing a rider conquer obstacles and rides that they thought impossible for them and as a result I have seen a few riders go from battling to pull off on their first ride to becoming very capable DS riders. Pushing their and my boundaries has been a pleasure over the years. See you in the dust!  ;)

Not diminishing any of the points made above it seems clear to me that by learning from this and setting clear rules that need to be adhered, like waiting at intersections, or ensuring everybody has at leat one riding buddy you can manage the stress and risk and still have the pleasures you did experience of having put together a trip for a group.

I get it - I normally ride alone. But then I don't want to plan I do that too much at work. My rides generally have a destination and the route evolves as I go along. Very few people, I find, are prepared for that level of uncertainty.
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Ri on November 29, 2019, 07:51:51 am
Not diminishing any of the points made above it seems clear to me that by learning from this and setting clear rules that need to be adhered, like waiting at intersections, or ensuring everybody has at leat one riding buddy you can manage the stress and risk and still have the pleasures you did experience of having put together a trip for a group.


I respectfully agree. TJ, you are obviously a very caring and responsible person. You shouldn't take on the burden of responsibility for everyone's actions in the group - they are adult (usually, or mostly) grown-ups, and are responsible for themselves. I realise this can negatively impact a group ride, but as far as possible, let them carry their own responsibility. If a person rides and acts irresponsibly, stop them and explain to them why it was, and if they don't learn, exclude them from the next ride.

Don't punish everyone (including yourself) for the mistakes of a minority of riders, by stopping planning and riding with friends. I'm pretty sure FC learnt her lesson, and loves riding with you when she can.
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 29, 2019, 08:31:23 am
 :-\
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: ETS on November 29, 2019, 10:19:02 am
Nice ride report anyway!!!!! :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Ri on November 29, 2019, 10:43:26 am
:-\

Insert foot here -> :tongue9:  ::)

Hope you didn't think I meant you generally make irresponsible decisions? You made one mistake and took your rebuke like a man. To my mind not reason enough to shun riding with you forever :(

I meant those idiots guys people who get on a bike and think they're riding gods and can do as they please, even (especially?) in a group.

I enjoyed your ride report and personally think [redacted]. Kudos to you for riding that AT, I would never have the nerve :ricky:

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on November 29, 2019, 12:20:02 pm
No issues Ri.

I know the severity of the situation if things had gone wrong, hence the light-heartedness of the thread... well it started out that way.

Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 29, 2019, 12:52:15 pm
 :happy1:

Besides the drama take some time to check out those views.. damn. Thanks FC for posting.

I haven't been in that area on a bike but I sure wouldnt mind going at all.. looks like spectacular riding especially at a bit of pace.

I small a ride out that way in the near future
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: HB 9 on November 30, 2019, 07:00:32 am
Awesome RR FC and valuable lessons learned.  :thumleft:

Thank you Visarend for your contribution that made the RR even better!  :deal:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: MRK Miller on December 01, 2019, 06:04:39 am
I would love to ride there. Transky is awesome. Such a pity I am so far away. Was the gate still locked when you passed there recently. The road with the cliffs on the one side and the drop off on the other is awesome. I am sure now that the rainy season had arrived, the area would green up again, and the forests would become more dens. Thank you for a awesome report
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 01, 2019, 07:48:07 am
The possibility of riders taking wrong turn-offs, crashing or simply wanting to stop and smoke too often :thumleft: is always present in a group ride.

I have seen often how this make tensions boil over, and the ability to handle these is paramount.

Brand-bashing upsets you only when the basher has ammo to use. :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on December 02, 2019, 04:14:27 pm
:-\

Insert foot here -> :tongue9:  ::)

Hope you didn't think I meant you generally make irresponsible decisions? You made one mistake and took your rebuke like a man. To my mind not reason enough to shun riding with you forever :(

I meant those idiots guys people who get on a bike and think they're riding gods and can do as they please, even (especially?) in a group.

I enjoyed your ride report and personally think [redacted]. Kudos to you for riding that AT, I would never have the nerve :ricky:

@ Ri & @ KaTooMatt Thanks for the replies and suggestions some of what is suggested has already been tried and some maybe in the future. For now I will continue with my taking a step back. I have not done a large group ride for a few years and I must admit the last one I made it clear what was required and ran it like a military operation and it worked. Although I never back down from a situation I also dont like being the dictator all the time but I spose thats what is required. I have to make one thing clear here though. Firecoast can ride! I have ridden behind her up Groot Revier Poort, Knysna Forrest sidetrack, sand and many other places while she was on her KTM640 and she never put a foot wrong. (She wanted to hit me once we got to the top of Groot Revier though   :lol8: )  Her mountain to climb is confidence in her own capabilities and the issue is deep rooted in her long ago fall on her Yamaha 650. I will ride with her, as I have, any day and forever. I am there to give her guidance when she needs it and asks for it but FC needs Helmet time and self boosting thoughts. As us all, I can see when she is having fun on two wheels and her speed steps up a notch. She is a happy positive person that pulled me out a hole that I would never have climbed out on my own. Thanks for the helmet time we have had and the rest that is to come with master Jack who is already making me nervous. FC made light of the situation cos thats how she deals with things after the obvious self reflection and for that I take my hat of to her. Till next ride FC   8)
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: Firecoast on December 02, 2019, 04:34:42 pm
:-\

Insert foot here -> :tongue9:  ::)

Hope you didn't think I meant you generally make irresponsible decisions? You made one mistake and took your rebuke like a man. To my mind not reason enough to shun riding with you forever :(

I meant those idiots guys people who get on a bike and think they're riding gods and can do as they please, even (especially?) in a group.

I enjoyed your ride report and personally think [redacted]. Kudos to you for riding that AT, I would never have the nerve :ricky:

@ Ri & @ KaTooMatt Thanks for the replies and suggestions some of what is suggested has already been tried and some maybe in the future. For now I will continue with my taking a step back. I have not done a large group ride for a few years and I must admit the last one I made it clear what was required and ran it like a military operation and it worked. Although I never back down from a situation I also dont like being the dictator all the time but I spose thats what is required. I have to make one thing clear here though. Firecoast can ride! I have ridden behind her up Groot Revier Poort, Knysna Forrest sidetrack, sand and many other places while she was on her KTM640 and she never put a foot wrong. (She wanted to hit me once we got to the top of Groot Revier though   :lol8: )  Her mountain to climb is confidence in her own capabilities and the issue is deep rooted in her long ago fall on her Yamaha 650. I will ride with her, as I have, any day and forever. I am there to give her guidance when she needs it and asks for it but FC needs Helmet time and self boosting thoughts. As us all, I can see when she is having fun on two wheels and her speed steps up a notch. She is a happy positive person that pulled me out a hole that I would never have climbed out on my own. Thanks for the helmet time we have had and the rest that is to come with master Jack who is already making me nervous. FC made light of the situation cos thats how she deals with things after the obvious self reflection and for that I take my hat of to her. Till next ride FC   8)

See you at home  ;)
Title: Re: So I got a bit lost...
Post by: edgy on December 02, 2019, 09:05:18 pm
Donít get lost :lol8: