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Title: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 11:23:43 am
This is the period of the MotoGP season that I enjoy almost as much as the racing itself.  Since there is no testing, nor any racing, the motor sport media needs to come up with something to keep their readers occupied, so the go sniff out the rumours, which they then elaborate on to show its possibility of happening, or not.

One of these they I am enjoying greatly and I am even wondering about the likelihood, is the predicted move by VR46 to the Petronas Yamaha satellite team, vacating his factory seat for young gun, Quartararo.  This juicy story indicates that VR46 already indicated that he would be happy to make this move.  For those who would shout that a move from an entrenched factory seat to a satellite seat is silly, mad even, the answer is ready.  Look at the "facts" they say.  I have no idea how accurate this is, but still makes a good story.

- Rossi and Hamilton ride swap late 2019 and their blossoming friendship and Hamilton drives a Petronas F1.  This is an excellent link between Rossi and Petronas.
- Yamaha and Rossi are huge in Malaysia.  So big that they have, in the past flew Rossi in for the launch of a scooter.  Petronas is a Malaysian company.
- The Petronas team will (so they say) become the Petronas VR46 team in 2021.  Makes sense for VR46 himself to ride there for a year or so, before he becomes the team manager.

JL99 indicated that one of his future options is a test rider contract on the table.  Obviously, his words were not cold yet and the Yamaha Test Rider job is linked to JL99.  Not a bad idea, I think.  Yamaha desperately needs to do European testing with a MGP rider, rather than Japanese only testing with retired Japanese SBK riders.

MotoGP to move to 22 races a year in the near future.  To reduce this time impact, the whole race meeting, with free practises, etc. may take place over 2 days, rather than the current three days.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Chili Dog on January 08, 2020, 11:39:06 am
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 08, 2020, 11:47:25 am
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 08, 2020, 11:52:21 am
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 08, 2020, 12:21:10 pm
Start planning your weekends.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 12:23:10 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

 :laughing4:

Indeed!  Look what marriage did to Casey Stoner.   :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 12:24:07 pm
Start planning your weekends.

Four GPs in bloody Spain.  You'd think they could channel one to little old South Africa.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 08, 2020, 12:31:50 pm
imagine moto gp comes to South Africa and gets stage 6 load shat. :imaposer: :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 12:54:58 pm
imagine moto gp comes to South Africa and gets stage 6 load shat. :imaposer: :pot:

Those bikes run on petrol man!  Don't be silly now.   :lol8:

Of course, off track can be a fokkie-oppie!  I am reminded when I was a race bike scrutineer.  We were on duty Friday afternoon at Phakisa.  After work we had a lekker braai and a few beers, then slept in the pits as many racers do.  Next morning as we woke up, no electricity.  At that time of the morning, no one cared a hoot about the timing systems, intercoms, etc.  We were all very grumpy without coffee!  I eventually drove into Welkom to buy coffee for the scrutineers.  I could see we were going to hurt people if we had to check sump plugs without having had coffee first!   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Superboet on January 08, 2020, 01:05:49 pm
imagine moto gp comes to South Africa and gets stage 6 load shat. :imaposer: :pot:

I think we are the laughing stock of the world
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on January 08, 2020, 01:28:10 pm
Sub! :sip:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 01:41:30 pm
imagine moto gp comes to South Africa and gets stage 6 load shat. :imaposer: :pot:

I think we are the laughing stock of the world

I doubt that.  We are just not that important and from a motorsport perspective, let me remind you:

https://kyalami9hour.com/

It went without a glitch.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on January 08, 2020, 01:43:40 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: lpj on January 08, 2020, 01:55:24 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:

 :spitcoffee: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on January 08, 2020, 02:38:04 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on January 08, 2020, 02:42:27 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:
Ek weet darem nie... maar ek sal altwee moet ry dan sal ek vir jou terugvoer gee. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 02:43:37 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:
Ek weet darem nie... maar ek sal altwee moet ry dan sal ek vir jou terugvoer gee. :ricky:

Staaaaadig nou oubaas!  Enige iemand wat homself Oom noem, moet maar liewer wye draaie om altwee loop!   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on January 08, 2020, 02:54:26 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:
Ek weet darem nie... maar ek sal altwee moet ry dan sal ek vir jou terugvoer gee. :ricky:

Staaaaadig nou oubaas!  Enige iemand wat homself Oom noem, moet maar liewer wye draaie om altwee loop!   >:D
Inderdaad, om 'n goeie "view" te kry viir jy opklim   :drif: >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 05:09:36 pm
Latest rumour:

It was reported that a South African with the cryptic name OD51 contacted Lin Jarvis and offered to ride the Yamaha M1 in 2020.  It cannot be proven at this stage, but apparently Jarvis accepted his offer and the factory is working hard to detune the 2020 M1 to have 35kw.   :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Brink on January 08, 2020, 05:09:36 pm
 :sip: :ricky: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on January 08, 2020, 05:21:45 pm
Latest rumour:

It was reported that a South African with the cryptic name OD51 contacted Lin Jarvis and offered to ride the Yamaha M1 in 2020.  It cannot be proven at this stage, but apparently Jarvis accepted his offer and the factory is working hard to detune the 2020 M1 to have 35kw.   :ricky:
As long as they add the two pods I he asked for. Fransesca already has pods mos.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 07:27:45 pm
Spy pics available of the OD51 factory Yamaha!  Check it out before Jarvis finds it and deletes all!



Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 08, 2020, 08:06:54 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:
Ek weet darem nie... maar ek sal altwee moet ry dan sal ek vir jou terugvoer gee. :ricky:

Rossi EN Francesca?? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 08:21:17 pm
I read Rossi has gotten engaged :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

https://www.famousfix.com/topic/valentino-rossi-and-francesca-sofia-novello

Ah!!  It eplains him becoming so slow the last few years.  And Yamaha got all the blame, it should have been Francesca!

Ja maar dit is Yamaha se skuld dat Franceska makliker is om te ry as `n M1? :peepwall:
Ek weet darem nie... maar ek sal altwee moet ry dan sal ek vir jou terugvoer gee. :ricky:

Rossi EN Francesca?? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 08, 2020, 08:22:39 pm
Latest rumour:

It was reported that a South African with the cryptic name OD51 contacted Lin Jarvis and offered to ride the Yamaha M1 in 2020.  It cannot be proven at this stage, but apparently Jarvis accepted his offer and the factory is working hard to detune the 2020 M1 to have 35kw.   :ricky:
As long as they add the two pods I he asked for. Fransesca already has pods mos.

The message seems to have been lost in translation.  It seems they are converting Francesca to have her pods coming out the sides!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 08, 2020, 09:30:20 pm
Latest rumour:

It was reported that a South African with the cryptic name OD51 contacted Lin Jarvis and offered to ride the Yamaha M1 in 2020.  It cannot be proven at this stage, but apparently Jarvis accepted his offer and the factory is working hard to detune the 2020 M1 to have 35kw.   :ricky:
As long as they add the two pods I he asked for. Fransesca already has pods mos.

The message seems to have been lost in translation.  It seems they are converting Francesca to have her pods coming out the sides!   :lol8:

But then Rossi can only ride her standing up. :eek7: And it won't be on any beach, there's sand there.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on January 09, 2020, 10:38:36 am
Just seen something posted by Ridefast Magazine where they say it is reported that Andrea Iannone's B Sample has also failed with "moderate" usage of drostanolone. He now faces a 4 year ban from any FIM event.

Bradley Smith tipped to get a full time ride now.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 09, 2020, 11:02:28 am
Just seen something posted by Ridefast Magazine where they say it is reported that Andrea Iannone's B Sample has also failed with "moderate" usage of drostanolone. He now faces a 4 year ban from any FIM event.

Bradley Smith tipped to get a full time ride now.

What a bummer for Ianone.  4 years out now is as good as permanent retirement.  Also it seems Aprilia is on the verge of launching a brand new, completely redesigned and build MotoGP bike.  It seems Bradley Smith is the front runner for the ride, but in the dark shadows there is a small rumour about Karl Abraham.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on January 09, 2020, 11:19:57 am
"There is a small rumour about Karl Abraham"

Which most certainly will involve Daddy's money....................
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on January 09, 2020, 12:24:14 pm
Looks like its going to go through the whole process.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 09, 2020, 12:46:19 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 09, 2020, 12:57:58 pm
Looks like its going to go through the whole process.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small

I must admit, I feel for the guy.  Perhaps I am naive, but I cannot see a MotoGP rider use any drug that will make him heavier.  He has worked very hard, under difficult times for Aprilia and it would be an absolute shame if he loses the opportunity to ride the new Aprilia.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on January 09, 2020, 03:45:55 pm
Could end up a Yamaha test rider and let George retire in peace .......................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 10, 2020, 07:16:29 am
Could end up a Yamaha test rider and let George retire in peace .......................  :biggrin:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

As a VR46 fan, I cannot imagine surviving VR winning the championship with George the test rider .....   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on January 10, 2020, 08:24:17 am
Looks like its going to go through the whole process.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small

I must admit, I feel for the guy.  Perhaps I am naive, but I cannot see a MotoGP rider use any drug that will make him heavier.  He has worked very hard, under difficult times for Aprilia and it would be an absolute shame if he loses the opportunity to ride the new Aprilia.

Tru dat! Just Googled drostanolone, seems it was developed for breast cancer but never marketed. I cannot see that it will give him any advantage at all.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ventana on January 10, 2020, 04:01:46 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 15, 2020, 09:06:04 am
Will the 2020 MotoGP season become known as the BATTLE OF THE OMIES?

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935440/1/max-biaggi-aprilia-shortlist-sepang-test

Imagine seeing Oom Max and Oom Valentino on the track at the same time!   One gets in the others way and it is walking sticks at dawn!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on January 16, 2020, 07:44:44 am
Nice interview with Brad Binder.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/brad-binder-ktm-s-next-big-thing

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on January 17, 2020, 07:41:02 am
Looks like its going to go through the whole process.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small

I must admit, I feel for the guy.  Perhaps I am naive, but I cannot see a MotoGP rider use any drug that will make him heavier.  He has worked very hard, under difficult times for Aprilia and it would be an absolute shame if he loses the opportunity to ride the new Aprilia.

Tru dat! Just Googled drostanolone, seems it was developed for breast cancer but never marketed. I cannot see that it will give him any advantage at all.

Maybe he thinks drostanolone will help him keep abreast..... :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 17, 2020, 07:59:01 am
It seems the aerodynamics of a MotoGP bike is still keeping the governing body awake at night. 

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/935484/1/2020-motogp-aero-changes-published

While a holeshot device of sorts is keeping the Yamaha guys busy.

 https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935486/1/yamaha-debut-holeshot-device-sepang
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 19, 2020, 08:27:03 pm
Looks like its going to go through the whole process.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935406/1/iannone-b-sample-positive-quantity-small

I must admit, I feel for the guy.  Perhaps I am naive, but I cannot see a MotoGP rider use any drug that will make him heavier.  He has worked very hard, under difficult times for Aprilia and it would be an absolute shame if he loses the opportunity to ride the new Aprilia.

Tru dat! Just Googled drostanolone, seems it was developed for breast cancer but never marketed. I cannot see that it will give him any advantage at all.

Maybe he thinks drostanolone will help him keep abreast..... :peepwall:

With bigger breasts you can just push them out and trip the finish lights first.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 21, 2020, 01:13:15 pm
The whole "pay to ride" issue has been highlighted this past week.  Jacub Kornfeil, 2009 Rookies Cup champion announced his retirement even though he does have a Moto 3 ride for 2020.  The reason?  Lack of cash.  It seems, that on average, you want a Moto 3 rode, you need to bring Euro 40k to the party.  Either cash, or sponsorship.  It is said that Tito Rabat pays 1 million Euro to ride the Avintia Ducati for a year.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/01/20/moto3/kornfeil-announces-his-retirement-i-still-feel-like-a-winner.html
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on January 21, 2020, 01:20:23 pm
The whole "pay to ride" issue has been highlighted this past week.  Jacub Kornfeil, 2009 Rookies Cup champion announced his retirement even though he does have a Moto 3 ride for 2020.  The reason?  Lack of cash.  It seems, that on average, you want a Moto 3 rode, you need to bring Euro 40k to the party.  Either cash, or sponsorship.  It is said that Tito Rabat pays 1 million Euro to ride the Avintia Ducati for a year.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/01/20/moto3/kornfeil-announces-his-retirement-i-still-feel-like-a-winner.html

The pay to race concept is getting quite ridiculous.If Rabat spent the cash which he is purported to have, he is investing poorly, because the ou has gone no where the last couple of years. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sithe on January 21, 2020, 02:35:10 pm
imagine moto gp comes to South Africa and gets stage 6 load shat. :imaposer: :pot:

I think we are the laughing stock of the world

I doubt that.  We are just not that important and from a motorsport perspective, let me remind you:

https://kyalami9hour.com/

It went without a glitch.

No, that race finished under pace car ... it rained and the coal got wet  :pot: :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 21, 2020, 03:24:57 pm
imagine moto gp comes to South Africa and gets stage 6 load shat. :imaposer: :pot:

I think we are the laughing stock of the world

I doubt that.  We are just not that important and from a motorsport perspective, let me remind you:

https://kyalami9hour.com/

It went without a glitch.

No, that race finished under pace car ... it rained and the coal got wet  :pot: :peepwall:

You are such a negative dude!  Sies man!  The race finished behind the pace car, no one was ever under it.   :lol8: ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 22, 2020, 09:39:10 am
The whole "pay to ride" issue has been highlighted this past week.  Jacub Kornfeil, 2009 Rookies Cup champion announced his retirement even though he does have a Moto 3 ride for 2020.  The reason?  Lack of cash.  It seems, that on average, you want a Moto 3 rode, you need to bring Euro 40k to the party.  Either cash, or sponsorship.  It is said that Tito Rabat pays 1 million Euro to ride the Avintia Ducati for a year.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/01/20/moto3/kornfeil-announces-his-retirement-i-still-feel-like-a-winner.html

Is this not what happened to Steven Odendal when he left moto2?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 22, 2020, 11:09:00 am
The whole "pay to ride" issue has been highlighted this past week.  Jacub Kornfeil, 2009 Rookies Cup champion announced his retirement even though he does have a Moto 3 ride for 2020.  The reason?  Lack of cash.  It seems, that on average, you want a Moto 3 rode, you need to bring Euro 40k to the party.  Either cash, or sponsorship.  It is said that Tito Rabat pays 1 million Euro to ride the Avintia Ducati for a year.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/01/20/moto3/kornfeil-announces-his-retirement-i-still-feel-like-a-winner.html

Is this not what happened to Steven Odendal when he left moto2?

I believe it was.

I think he will do well with Ten Kate Racing in WSS600 this year though. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 24, 2020, 09:09:18 am
There has been some interesting discussions on V4 versus Inline 4 engines here and why the V4's seem to be doing better in MotoGP than the inline 4s.

It seems it is true.  V4s can make more power.  Interesting read below.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/why-are-motogp-v4s-faster-than-inline-4s?fbclid=IwAR3paZ2zejEg8VDG3iaWhc13xQM-8mY15FTVEzUTfhBBrPOgY15524KGU1w

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 24, 2020, 09:37:30 am
interesting indeed and also show a change in tyre compound could close the gap between the 2.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 24, 2020, 12:32:01 pm
I read a report on the net saying the MM93 wont be fully fit for the test coming up on the 7th of Feb due to his shoulder taking longer to heal. This is interesting because Alex being a rookie is still coming to terms with riding a GP bike and will leave Crutchlow to do most of the testing and and most of the feedback on the setup of the bike.
This may be an advantage for him for this year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Bwana on January 24, 2020, 04:11:51 pm
Yes and apparently has not even been on a bike yet since his op. He could be a slow starter at this championship.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 24, 2020, 04:40:17 pm
Yes and apparently has not even been on a bike yet since his op. He could be a slow starter at this championship.

If he keeps his old form, he only need to start racing in June to still take the title. :thumleft:

Very interesting article about the V4/inline debate.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 24, 2020, 05:30:25 pm
That's true.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 28, 2020, 05:17:31 pm
From moto gp instagram account Yamaha have signed Maverick for 21 and 22. Seasons.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 29, 2020, 07:20:43 am
From moto gp instagram account Yamaha have signed Maverick for 21 and 22. Seasons.

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Yes.  Confirmed.  The silly season is starting earlier every year.  Yamaha did not give MV the opportunity to sees if their bike is any better.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 29, 2020, 04:29:40 pm
Confirmed from Yamaha Factory team.  Rossi out, Quartararo in from 2021.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935612/1/quartararo-replaces-rossi-yamaha-2021

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on January 29, 2020, 04:37:01 pm
Confirmed from Yamaha Factory team.  Rossi out, Quartararo in from 2021.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935612/1/quartararo-replaces-rossi-yamaha-2021

Correct move by the Factory.Seems VR 46 will decide mid - season ( and based on results ) if he will be joining a Sat. team or hang up his premier class boots.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 8 min Mark on January 29, 2020, 05:01:00 pm
So 20 is the new 46


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on January 29, 2020, 05:03:40 pm
So 20 is the new 46


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Jip  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on January 30, 2020, 07:52:42 am
https://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/rossi-quartararo-yamaha-and-petronas-what-the-hell-just-happened/?fbclid=IwAR1sP1DvlAcTJnZuTkdUJUXaxl-aaoN8PL-A2Yt4CS4RFC8_tZ-Ejy9_Slk

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ROSSI, QUARTARARO, YAMAHA AND PETRONAS – WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED?

What just happened was a powerplay. A typical MotoGP powerplay. And there’s a few things going on here which may not be immediately obvious.

Firstly, this is still all about winning world championships. And to do that, you need to beat Marquez. That’s the elephant in the room. Not Honda. Marquez. Because without Marquez, Honda has nothing. There is no depth to either the factory team or the satellite team. It’s all Marquez. Not his brother, not Crutchlow, and not Nakagami.

The other teams know Marquez’s success in 2020 hinges entirely on his shoulders being up to the task. I understand things are not going as well as they could be after his last operation. One awkward get-off and that’s Honda down the toilet. I’m willing to bet all the teams are banking on this exact thing happening.

Secondly, the conversation between Yamaha and Rossi may well have gone like this:

Yamaha: “OK, Vale, look, we have to fuck Ducati in the arse. Bologna wants Fabulous, and we do not want Bologna to have Fabulous. They are doomed without someone like Fabulous because Dovi and Petrucci will never win a title. Neither will Miller and Bagnaia, but they will probably do better than the other two. What you wanna do?”

Vale: “How about you wheel my bike over to Petronas and put new fairings on it. And we will continue as before. Full factory bike with a different fairing. I don’t know how much longer I want to do this, but I understand how the game is played in terms of the future and riders and contracts and fucking Ducati.”

Yamaha: “We were kinda hoping you’d see it like that. We didn’t want you to lose face.”

Rossi: “I am The Doctor. My face is too big to lose. I could be out there on a Royal Enfield and people will still come to see me. And you’re only signing the kid for a year. A lot can happen in one year.”

Yamaha: “You OK with Maverick staying on for a bit? We don’t want him to go to Ducati or Suzuki.”

Rossi: “Sure. No problem. I prefer to have Morbidelli as a team-mate. He is a good boy. Oh, and tell George to make sure he doesn’t fuck about with the testing too much. He knows what I like.”

Yamaha: “You good with all this Fabulous?”

Fabulous: “I have shit myself with happiness. I don’t care. I just wanna race bikes, play video games, smash Instagram, and maybe get some fine-looking pussy like the Criminal Redding.”

Yamaha: “Good boy. Maverick?”

Maverick: “Is he being paid more than me?”

Of course, I have no idea what really transpired between the players. No-one except the players know.

What this shuffle means for the 2020 season is obvious. Stability and predictability for Yamaha.

What this means in 2021 is anyone’s guess. But there are a lot of races between now and then.

And they’re all going to be fabulo…erm, wonderful.

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 30, 2020, 09:33:31 am
That's funny  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 30, 2020, 10:16:09 am
He does have a way with words.  ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on January 30, 2020, 01:13:48 pm
And Jorge is also back...................

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935617/1/lorenzo-returns-yamaha-motogp-test-rider

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on January 30, 2020, 01:30:04 pm
And Jorge is also back...................

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935617/1/lorenzo-returns-yamaha-motogp-test-rider

Very chuffed  he is back with Yamaha - all that talent, experience and skills will no doubt serve them well in the continuous development of the M1.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on January 30, 2020, 02:44:40 pm
And Jorge is also back...................

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935617/1/lorenzo-returns-yamaha-motogp-test-rider

Very chuffed  he is back with Yamaha - all that talent, experience and skills will no doubt serve them well in the continuous development of the M1.

As long as they listen to this [Rossi: “Sure. No problem. I prefer to have Morbidelli as a team-mate. He is a good boy. Oh, and tell George to make sure he doesn’t fuck about with the testing too much. He knows what I like.”
]  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on January 30, 2020, 03:17:08 pm
And Jorge is also back...................

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935617/1/lorenzo-returns-yamaha-motogp-test-rider

Very chuffed  he is back with Yamaha - all that talent, experience and skills will no doubt serve them well in the continuous development of the M1.

As long as they listen to this [Rossi: “Sure. No problem. I prefer to have Morbidelli as a team-mate. He is a good boy. Oh, and tell George to make sure he doesn’t fuck about with the testing too much. He knows what I like.”
]  >:D

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on January 31, 2020, 09:40:58 am
Clearly Yamaha is attacking 2020 with some seriousness.  Good!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 02, 2020, 02:58:22 pm
 :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 02, 2020, 04:54:35 pm
Heck, you make me wish Brad was number 1!  ;)

He got to ride the 2020 MotoGP KTM today during the Shake Down tests at Sepang.  This start-of-season test does not feature official timing and is for new models with their test riders, but open to rookies and the factory riders of the concession teams, currently only Aprilia and KTM.

Dani Pedrosa was fastest on the day and while it doesn't mean much, his time compares well with the fastest time set during a race last year.  Brad did well as well and wasn't that much slower than Dani (just under 1s), or fastest rookie AM73.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935646/1/pedrosa-tops-timesheets-2020-shakedown-starts

2020 Sepang shakedown riders:

Honda: Stefan Bradl, Alex Marquez*

Ducati: Michele Pirro

Yamaha: Jorge Lorenzo, Katsuyuki Nakasuga, Kohta Nozane

Suzuki: Sylvain Guintoli

KTM: Dani Pedrosa, Mika Kallio, Iker Lecuona*, Brad Binder*, Pol Espargaro**, Miguel Oliveira**

Aprilia: Lorenzo Savadori, Bradley Smith, Aleix Espargaro**

*MotoGP rookie

**MotoGP concession rule



Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2020, 07:07:16 am
Interesting read on traction control and wheel spin:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/935647/1/motogp-traction-control-retarding-and-cutting

Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on February 03, 2020, 07:27:21 am
Quote
Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....
:lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2020, 07:28:56 am
Quote
Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....
:lol8:

I bet 2SD never, in his whole life, expected to see a bike wider than a GS!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 03, 2020, 07:42:12 am
Quote
Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....
:lol8:

I bet 2SD never, in his whole life, expected to see a bike wider than a GS!   :lol8:

It seems only slightly wider........







than one GS pod. :deal:

Onthou altyd, n GS is so wyd soos die Here se genade.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 03, 2020, 11:49:34 am
Interesting read on traction control and wheel spin:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/935647/1/motogp-traction-control-retarding-and-cutting

Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....

Good article ! Those wings look a bit out of proportion  ???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on February 03, 2020, 03:52:56 pm
On the long straights the Aprillia may even become airborne
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 03, 2020, 03:55:19 pm
On the long straights the Aprillia may even become airborne

Like the other brand that gives you wings  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2020, 04:06:03 pm
On the long straights the Aprillia may even become airborne

Like the other brand that gives you wings  :laughing4:

Looks like Aprilia drank their whole year's supply of that stuff before designing these wings!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 03, 2020, 09:05:36 pm
On the long straights the Aprillia may even become airborne

Like the other brand that gives you wings  :laughing4:

Looks like Aprilia drank their whole year's supply of that stuff before designing these wings!

Joh, seems like that was real proper juice from Noale taken by the designers ::) Even the side view looks awkward.....bit like a mix of an over and under bite  :o Maybe.......just maybe it works for the bike ! Hope it does  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on February 03, 2020, 09:23:11 pm
Interesting read on traction control and wheel spin:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/935647/1/motogp-traction-control-retarding-and-cutting

Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....

I'm still fucked off with Unibatt

I spent a LARGE sum of money with them and had MAJOR issues.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 03, 2020, 09:29:08 pm
Interesting read on traction control and wheel spin:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/935647/1/motogp-traction-control-retarding-and-cutting

Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....

I'm still fucked off with Unibatt

What's the story with them ?
I spent a LARGE sum of money with them and had MAJOR issues.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 03, 2020, 09:50:44 pm
Sure you are not thinking of Ultrabatt?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 04, 2020, 07:02:36 am
Interesting read on traction control and wheel spin:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/935647/1/motogp-traction-control-retarding-and-cutting

Also in the news.  Aprilia buys surplus Boeing B-Max wings ....

I'm still fucked off with Unibatt

I spent a LARGE sum of money with them and had MAJOR issues.

You fitted a Unibatt and your bike didn't turn into a MotoGP bike?  You didn't turn into MM93?  What is the issue?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 05, 2020, 07:40:38 am
Sepang shakedown testing done and dusted.  The first official testing will be on the same circuit next weekend.

At the end of the three days, Pol Espargaro was fastest on his KTM at just under 2 minutes per lap.  This is pretty similar to the fastest official test time from last year, the circuit's pole record and the circuit's race record.  The new Aprilia was hot on his tail.  Our Brad is just over 0,6s slower than fastest man.  It seemed like it was a good practice and get to know your bike 3 days.  JL99 joined them on day 3 of the testing.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935659/1/pol-fastest-shakedown-ends-lorenzo-rides-yamaha

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 07, 2020, 05:43:29 pm
Sepang test today

Fabio, morbidelli, rins, cal, miller, vinales, King 10th, 93 12th, Binder 21st.

D ped was half a second faster than BB. He has work to do.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 07, 2020, 06:37:49 pm
Sepang test today

Fabio, morbidelli, rins, cal, miller, vinales, King 10th, 93 12th, Binder 21st.

D ped was half a second faster than BB. He has work to do.

Early days and shake downs. Fabio fastest on '19 bike is interesting, wonder how he will like the '20 version? Yamaha have new engines as does Aprilia - completely new V4 90' and new chassis.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Smith on February 07, 2020, 08:25:14 pm
MAN..OH..MAN.. Fabio was showing his worth last season and could be a contender 2020.
But my heart will be Bad Brad, knowing he might only be finding his feet.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2020, 09:47:40 am
Sepang test today

Fabio, morbidelli, rins, cal, miller, vinales, King 10th, 93 12th, Binder 21st.

D ped was half a second faster than BB. He has work to do.

Early days and shake downs. Fabio fastest on '19 bike is interesting, wonder how he will like the '20 version? Yamaha have new engines as does Aprilia - completely new V4 90' and new chassis.

Indeed early days.  Like anyone else, I enjoy following the testing, but also find it hugely frustrating as we are not close enough to the teams to know what they are actually testing.  That said, halfway through testing today:

GP Riders: Jackass, Mir, Franky, Maverick, Rins, Pol, MM93, VR46, Fabio, Aleix.

Rookies:  AM73 (16th), BB33 (17), Lecuona (22).

Test riders:  Dani (18th), Guintoli (20), Yamaha Test 3 (24), Yamaha Test 1 (25) , Smith (26)

Brad is now 1.1s of the fastest.  Some interesting comparative times:

Best Lap:  Fabio 1,58,576 - 2019
Best race lap:  VR46 1,59,661 - 2019
Unofficial lap record: Petrux 1,58,239 - 2019 during testing
Fastest during shakedown tests: Pol 1,59,444 - 2020
Jack Miller today: 1,58,641

MAN..OH..MAN.. Fabio was showing his worth last season and could be a contender 2020.
But my heart will be Bad Brad, knowing he might only be finding his feet.

I so hope Fabio does feature on the podium and even become a serious championship contender.  I liked him since day 1, but he disappointed me in Moto3 and Moto2.  He had better get his act together, or I will be forced to loudly and viciously swear at my TV screen!   ;)

For Bradical I am hoping two things.  Making points and beating the satellite KTMs.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 08, 2020, 10:13:00 am
For Bradical I am hoping two things.  Making points and beating the satellite KTMs.

How about rookie of the year for Brad? Or do you think AM73 has that one in the bag?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 08, 2020, 10:36:29 am
For Bradical I am hoping two things.  Making points and beating the satellite KTMs.

How about rookie of the year for Brad? Or do you think AM73 has that one in the bag?

Nothing is in the bag! Racing is a lucky packet. The more you race the luckier you get.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2020, 11:57:40 am
For Bradical I am hoping two things.  Making points and beating the satellite KTMs.

How about rookie of the year for Brad? Or do you think AM73 has that one in the bag?

I think it can go either way, like BigDom said nothing is in the bag, but I am assuming (hopefully incorrectly)  for now that the Repsol Honda will be a better bike than the Red Bull KTM.  Sadly so.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2020, 12:07:02 pm
Day 2 test times (one hour to go) from Sepang.  No major changes though.

GP Riders:  Miller, Mir, Morbidelli, Maverick, Rins, EspargaroP, MM93, VR46, Fabio, EspargaroA.

Rookies:  AM73 (17th 1,02 off fastest), BB33 (18 1,13s off fastest), Lecuona (22).

Test Riders:  Dani (16th), Guintoli (20th), Yamaha Test 3 (24), Yamaha Test 1 (25), Smith (26)

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 08, 2020, 12:14:45 pm
Pedrosa just put the KTM .090 off FQ's best lap of the 2 days. Putting him 3rd fastest ON A KTM.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2020, 12:16:44 pm
Pedrosa just put the KTM .090 off FQ's best lap of the 2 days. Putting him 3rd fastest ON A KTM.

It is such a pity he will not race anymore.  He is still a bloody good rider.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 08, 2020, 12:19:02 pm
Interesting comparison of current top speeds.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2020, 12:40:22 pm
End of day from Sepang.  Fabio and Dani suddenly shot up the timing sheets.

Riders:  Fabio (1,58.582), Jack, Dani, Mir, Morbidelli, Maverick, Rins, EspargaroP, MM93, VR46.
(4 x Yamahas in top 10, 1 x Ducati, 2 x KTM, 2 x Suzuki, 1 x Honda).

Rookies:  AM73 (17 1.1s off), BB33 (18 1.2s off), Lecuona (23)

Test Riders:  Dani (3), Guintoli (21), Yamaha Test 3 (24), Yamaha Test 1 (25), Smith (26).

Amazing performance by Dani on the KTM.  Pol is also doing well with brother Aleix on the all new Aprilia consistently in, or near the top 10.  JL99 will start riding tomorrow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on February 08, 2020, 05:59:49 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2020, 09:19:28 am
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Moderators!  How can you allow a post like this on the forum?  SIES!

Is there a "green with envy" emoticon somewhere?  Lucky bugger.  Enjoy every moment.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 09, 2020, 11:30:50 am
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2020, 02:00:11 pm
End of the final day of testing from Sepang.

GP Riders:  Fabio, Crutchlow, Rins, Bagniaia, VR46, Petrux, EspargaroP, Jackass, EspargaroA, Mir.

Rookies:  AM73 (16, 0,69s off), BB33 (17 0,75 off), Lecuona (23 1,5 off)

Test riders:  JL99 (20), Smith (21), Guintoli (24), Kalio (25), Yamaha Test 1 (26), Tsuda (27)

Top 18 seperated by only 0,8s. 
Both KTM and Aprilia consistently in top 10.
Ducati struggling. Apparently struggling with turning.
Honda struggling.  MM93 not 100% fit yet. Crutchlow reckon the 2020 bike is even worse at turning than the 2019 bike..
Looks like two of the rookies, AM72 and BB33 could have some great races this coming season.  Both can brag that, today at least, they were faster than JL99 and Maverick. 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on February 09, 2020, 04:14:52 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Moderators!  How can you allow a post like this on the forum?  SIES!

Is there a "green with envy" emoticon somewhere?  Lucky bugger.  Enjoy every moment.

 :lol8:  :peepwall:

Ja, its been a long time coming. Missed it last year due to skoonpa's 70th party. Told them then, I dont care what happens in 2020, I am going to Austin for the MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2020, 07:07:15 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Moderators!  How can you allow a post like this on the forum?  SIES!

Is there a "green with envy" emoticon somewhere?  Lucky bugger.  Enjoy every moment.

 :lol8:  :peepwall:

Ja, its been a long time coming. Missed it last year due to skoonpa's 70th party. Told them then, I dont care what happens in 2020, I am going to Austin for the MotoGP.

If I had to pick three races that I could attend it would be Austin, Mugello and Assen.  Of course, my only experience is watching on TV, but the Austin track just looks awesome.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 09, 2020, 08:16:45 pm
I was at Mugello 2007 and Rossi  won. Was on the track under the podium when he threw his helmet into the crowd. Landed a metre  from me and the chaos that ensued was something never to forget. Those Italians are crazy.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 09, 2020, 09:35:34 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

That's nothing man, have you ever sat on turn 5 at Killarney when the big names in the Western Cape comes storming through? :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on February 10, 2020, 12:10:15 am
 :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 10, 2020, 10:03:59 am
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

That's nothing man, have you ever sat on turn 5 at Killarney when the big names in the Western Cape comes storming through? :snorting:

Da Lille, Zille, Steenhuizen?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 10, 2020, 03:50:26 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

That's nothing man, have you ever sat on turn 5 at Killarney when the big names in the Western Cape comes storming through? :snorting:

Da Lille, Zille, Steenhuizen?

Lapping Maimane. :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Clockwork Orange on February 10, 2020, 03:51:31 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.

If you want company for the ride up and to have a few dops, Im youre man :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 10, 2020, 04:14:56 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.

If you want company for the ride up and to have a few dops, Im youre man :ricky:

Well we should make a plan then. Might camp on the Saturday night and enjoy a day in the sun
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Clockwork Orange on February 10, 2020, 06:01:17 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.

If you want company for the ride up and to have a few dops, Im youre man :ricky:

Well we should make a plan then. Might camp on the Saturday night and enjoy a day in the sun

There like a bear...not THE BEAR :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 10, 2020, 06:06:03 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.

If you want company for the ride up and to have a few dops, Im youre man :ricky:

Well we should make a plan then. Might camp on the Saturday night and enjoy a day in the sun

There like a bear...not THE BEAR :imaposer:

Bank holiday weekend too so no need to rush on the sunday after racing
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 11, 2020, 07:47:49 am
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.

If you want company for the ride up and to have a few dops, Im youre man :ricky:

Well we should make a plan then. Might camp on the Saturday night and enjoy a day in the sun

There like a bear...not THE BEAR :imaposer:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:  Darn!  For a moment there I thought you had invited me on a, all costs included, trip ....   :lol8:

Might I suggest, in the most gentlemanly and kind fashion possible, that you lot discussing watching MotoGP live at the various tracks, are arseholes.  May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the fuel filters on your bikes!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 11, 2020, 09:50:03 am
While Fabio was fastest at Seang in terms of single lap speed, timing stats show that the two fastest riders over race distance, during race simulations were Maverick and Rins.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Clockwork Orange on February 11, 2020, 07:06:39 pm
Bought my weekend tickets this morning for Circuit of the Americas in Austin for April.  Turn 15 stand, top rows. Cant bloody wait  :ricky:

Just waiting for normal tickets to be released for silverstone. Camp overnight an spend the day at the races. General admission.

Went in 2017 and loved it.

Possibly Rossi swan song, all the more reason to go.

If you want company for the ride up and to have a few dops, Im youre man :ricky:

Well we should make a plan then. Might camp on the Saturday night and enjoy a day in the sun

There like a bear...not THE BEAR :imaposer:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:  Darn!  For a moment there I thought you had invited me on a, all costs included, trip ....   :lol8:

Might I suggest, in the most gentlemanly and kind fashion possible, that you lot discussing watching MotoGP live at the various tracks, are arseholes.  May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the fuel filters on your bikes!   :biggrin:

Ha ha :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 12, 2020, 10:45:25 am
Holeshot device.

Ducati started using this system, based on off-road racing bikes, to help them get off the mark faster.  They were quickly joined by Aprilia.  Apparently this device lowers the suspension of the bike during the start of the race to help prevent wheelies.  It has been confirmed that Yamaha now also boasts such a device.  According to the rules such a device is legal, if mechanical.  Electronic devices are not allowed.

A very interesting rumour coming from the Sepang testing is that one of two riders are saying they followed Dovi for some laps and they are sure his Ducati dropped its rear suspension during the lap as well, notably on exciting the last corner onto the main straight.  If true, they have managed to find some sort of mechanical device that enable them to drop the rear suspension and release it to normal position, while riding.  It would be interesting to see where this is going.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on February 12, 2020, 02:06:42 pm
I would certainly hope Moto GP does not go entirely the same way as F1, innovation is good, but a button for the straight, a button for overtaking etc. will to me just take away from the ultimate skill of these riders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 12, 2020, 02:21:03 pm
I would certainly hope Moto GP does not go entirely the same way as F1, innovation is good, but a button for the straight, a button for overtaking etc. will to me just take away from the ultimate skill of these riders.

It is already astounding even at GP2 level the amount of telemetry and "buttons" there are for various tracks, setups, maneuvers etc. - it is already full-up in MotoGP ... one has a big choice of buttons. ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on February 12, 2020, 02:39:07 pm
I remember watching an insert where Cal Cruthlow had gone off the track, come back on to the track and almost immediately crashed, claims the bike didn't know where it was on the circuit.

https://www.boxrepsol.com/en/motogp-en/how-do-sensors-and-electronics-improve-performance-in-motogp/

Track position sensor
This device is a transponder that detects the machine's position on the circuit. It recognizes up to 25 different sectors, which makes it possible for the bike to know where it is at any given moment. As a result, the teams can programme different adjustments for almost every turn.

So right, things are already very advanced.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on February 12, 2020, 03:01:44 pm
I would certainly hope Moto GP does not go entirely the same way as F1, innovation is good, but a button for the straight, a button for overtaking etc. will to me just take away from the ultimate skill of these riders.
Yes before long we will have bikes running perfect lines all around the track with the rider just there as a passenger. Although not a 2T fan that is what made the 500 2T era special. Good rider could still put a lesser bike on the podium. I always believed Schwantz Suzuki was not as good as the NSR's
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 13, 2020, 07:57:32 am
Imagine a really fast corner, bike cranked over 60 degrees and that systems fails dropping the bike's arse!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on February 13, 2020, 08:12:25 am
Remember the time MM and DP had the little incident where Dani's rear traction control sensor was cut, that Honda spat him off very quickly. He sat in the middle of the track having absolutely no idea what just happened.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 13, 2020, 08:23:16 am
Remember the time MM and DP had the little incident where Dani's rear traction control sensor was cut, that Honda spat him off very quickly. He sat in the middle of the track having absolutely no idea what just happened.

Jip, poor ou never knew what went wrong ! Over tech is really becoming  dice of the mechanical & motorised quick computers  :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on February 13, 2020, 10:04:30 am
I was so surprised to see Brad still wearing the pair of sunglasses I made for him, this was Sepang.

It's really great to see....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 13, 2020, 11:30:57 am
Remember the time MM and DP had the little incident where Dani's rear traction control sensor was cut, that Honda spat him off very quickly. He sat in the middle of the track having absolutely no idea what just happened.

Indeed.  I remember it well.  ALso JL99 falling on his arse in the first corner after a practice start during one of the free practices because his launch control did not reset to traction control in time for the corner.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on February 13, 2020, 11:34:32 am
I was so surprised to see Brad still wearing the pair of sunglasses I made for him, this was Sepang.

It's really great to see....

Awesome indeed!   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on February 15, 2020, 05:02:34 pm
It is the off-season so we have time to reflect on things.   :)

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 17, 2020, 02:45:01 pm
It is the off-season so we have time to reflect on things.   :)




 :eek7: I hope the oke on the scrambler weren't a stunter, what a kak rider.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 17, 2020, 03:00:39 pm
65 quid for me, and 32.50 for my lad. General admission for the Sunday.

Whoop whoop


Car parking is either 35 eye watering pounds for a circuit parking or 15 pounds for park an ride ticket ….or go on motorbike for 0.00 pounds.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 20, 2020, 12:48:38 pm
Just read on FB. MM93 has just signed a 4 contract extension keeping him with repsol Honda until the end of 2024.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/20/marc-marquez-renews-with-hrc-through-to-the-end-of-2024/324803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=MarcMarquezrenewswithHRCthroughtotheendof2024&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR0iE23OCgBumxgX9YUd8gsxcH1nC8GoXQzcpQ-NlM4SKytVr1F90HyyFcU
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 20, 2020, 01:02:50 pm
Just read on FB. MM93 has just signed a 4 contract extension keeping him with repsol Honda until the end of 2024.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/20/marc-marquez-renews-with-hrc-through-to-the-end-of-2024/324803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=MarcMarquezrenewswithHRCthroughtotheendof2024&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR0iE23OCgBumxgX9YUd8gsxcH1nC8GoXQzcpQ-NlM4SKytVr1F90HyyFcU

Sharp move of Honda to retain his services for 4 more years  :thumleft: Very sure the vultures were circling already  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 21, 2020, 10:34:55 am
Just read on FB. MM93 has just signed a 4 contract extension keeping him with repsol Honda until the end of 2024.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/02/20/marc-marquez-renews-with-hrc-through-to-the-end-of-2024/324803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=MarcMarquezrenewswithHRCthroughtotheendof2024&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR0iE23OCgBumxgX9YUd8gsxcH1nC8GoXQzcpQ-NlM4SKytVr1F90HyyFcU

Sharp move of Honda to retain his services for 4 more years  :thumleft: Very sure the vultures were circling already  ;)

If the recipe continue, he will have set many new records by the end of the 4 year contract.
If it aint broke, dont fix it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 21, 2020, 10:37:13 am
I very much doubt 93 will see out that entire contract.

it must get boring after a while.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 21, 2020, 12:31:39 pm
I very much doubt 93 will see out that entire contract.

it must get boring after a while.

Do aliens get bored?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 21, 2020, 01:52:03 pm
I very much doubt 93 will see out that entire contract.

it must get boring after a while.

Do aliens get bored?

Probably not - more so with a very rich contract
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 21, 2020, 02:10:11 pm
I very much doubt 93 will see out that entire contract.

it must get boring after a while.

Do aliens get bored?

Probably not - more so with a very rich contract

I can see that, looking at Mr Rossi.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Bwana on February 22, 2020, 10:38:49 am
MM learning from Rossis Mistakes who would have definitely had at least one more title had he stayed on that V5 Honda another 2 years. Rossi leaving Yamaha was also mistake.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 22, 2020, 08:10:02 pm
MM learning from Rossis Mistakes who would have definitely had at least one more title had he stayed on that V5 Honda another 2 years. Rossi leaving Yamaha was also mistake.

Huge mistake, but sometimes riders are willing to not play it safe for the sake of change.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on February 24, 2020, 02:13:31 pm
Suzuki's looks good this year and those Aprillias's  :drif:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on February 24, 2020, 02:14:42 pm
1   =   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   1m 54.038s   52/65
2   ^3   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.162s   52/53
3   ˅1   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.226s   53/68
4   ˅1   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.443s   55/70
5   ˅1   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP20)   +0.482s   37/52
6   ^8   Johann Zarco   FRA   Reale Avintia (GP19)   +0.527s   55/56
7   ˅1   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.574s   23/52
8   ˅1   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (GP20)   +0.624s   36/60
9   ˅1   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.702s   22/52
10   ˅1   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.721s   30/43
11   ˅1   Aleix Espargaro   ITA   Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +0.724s   26/33
12   ˅1   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Ducati Team (GP20)   +0.814s   23/49
13   ˅1   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.852s   25/54
14   ˅1   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +1.055s   26/46
15   =   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP20)   +1.156s   11/42
16   =   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia (GP19)   +1.314s   53/54
17   =   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +1.562s   20/53
18   =   Iker Lecuona   SPA   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   +1.606s   45/53
19   =   Alex Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)*   +1.687s   22/48
20   =   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)*   +1.892s   19/57
21   =   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +2.140s   26/27
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on February 24, 2020, 02:52:38 pm
1   =   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   1m 54.038s   52/65
2   ^3   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.162s   52/53
3   ˅1   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.226s   53/68
4   ˅1   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.443s   55/70
5   ˅1   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP20)   +0.482s   37/52
6   ^8   Johann Zarco   FRA   Reale Avintia (GP19)   +0.527s   55/56
7   ˅1   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.574s   23/52
8   ˅1   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (GP20)   +0.624s   36/60
9   ˅1   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.702s   22/52
10   ˅1   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.721s   30/43
11   ˅1   Aleix Espargaro   ITA   Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +0.724s   26/33
12   ˅1   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Ducati Team (GP20)   +0.814s   23/49
13   ˅1   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +0.852s   25/54
14   ˅1   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +1.055s   26/46
15   =   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP20)   +1.156s   11/42
16   =   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia (GP19)   +1.314s   53/54
17   =   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +1.562s   20/53
18   =   Iker Lecuona   SPA   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   +1.606s   45/53
19   =   Alex Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)*   +1.687s   22/48
20   =   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)*   +1.892s   19/57
21   =   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +2.140s   26/27

Thanks, see Marquez took a (nother) tumble in practice  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on February 24, 2020, 03:51:13 pm
Seems like the other manufacturers have made some good progress with their machines. Its gonna make for an interesting season  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 24, 2020, 03:56:12 pm
Practice is about so much more than best/fastest lap. Race distance, tire management etc etc ... Roll on race day as that will be the teller. But yes Suzuki and Yamaha have definitely made some big strides, as has Ducati and Aprilia. Honda sandbagging? Actually struggling - not ready to race  8)

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 24, 2020, 03:56:33 pm
MM learning from Rossis Mistakes who would have definitely had at least one more title had he stayed on that V5 Honda another 2 years. Rossi leaving Yamaha was also mistake.

Not mistakes, challenges.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on February 24, 2020, 04:16:57 pm
The best time is still about a second off MM’s best lap last year  :sip:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on February 24, 2020, 05:25:54 pm
Look at the guy in 4th place at the moment!!!

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 24, 2020, 05:40:48 pm
 :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on February 24, 2020, 07:00:02 pm
Lekker man! Brad seems hungry and ready to ride.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Bwana on February 27, 2020, 06:48:07 pm
With MM no where  near the top and Honda looking a little bit left behind  this thread has gone quiet a lot of anticipation and hope for non MM fans. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on February 27, 2020, 07:41:56 pm
With MM no where  near the top and Honda looking a little bit left behind  this thread has gone quiet a lot of anticipation and hope for non MM fans.

It's early days, we will only really know what everyone can do once racing starts.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on February 27, 2020, 07:56:02 pm
In reality if BB can run in the top 10 at race pace and distance he will be doing extremely well. If one watched how Fabio nailed the race distance tests you will know who the golden boy of the moment is. This season is going to be a stonker!  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: kfc4unme on March 02, 2020, 03:17:09 am
First round of MotoGP cancelled :((https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200302/96d701c24564fc8eccb5115d02f0243a.jpg)

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Battlestar on March 02, 2020, 07:37:17 am
Had a feeling this was going to happen. I think alot more will be affected.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on March 02, 2020, 08:29:05 am
First round of MotoGP cancelled :((https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200302/96d701c24564fc8eccb5115d02f0243a.jpg)

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😳 Very bad news !
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: FlexZA on March 02, 2020, 09:07:30 am
So many rumors going around now with speculations and stuff of Dorna trying to help Marc with more time
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on March 02, 2020, 09:30:32 am
First round of MotoGP cancelled :((https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200302/96d701c24564fc8eccb5115d02f0243a.jpg)

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😳 Very bad news !

Won't be the only one .......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Battlestar on March 02, 2020, 09:32:21 am
So many rumors going around now with speculations and stuff of Dorna trying to help Marc with more time
That is a load of bollocks  :laughing4:

This was the Qatari government putting restrictions on people arriving into the country from Italy. As far as im aware the bikes and equipment are still in Qatar from last weeks testing.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Battlestar on March 02, 2020, 09:33:38 am
And this will not be the only one. SBK due to race there in 2 weeks time doubt thats going to happen now.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: FlexZA on March 02, 2020, 10:28:03 am
So many rumors going around now with speculations and stuff of Dorna trying to help Marc with more time
That is a load of bollocks  :laughing4:

This was the Qatari government putting restrictions on people arriving into the country from Italy. As far as im aware the bikes and equipment are still in Qatar from last weeks testing.

Yes yes agree 100%. just stating rumors going around atm
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2020, 10:32:43 am
And this will not be the only one. SBK due to race there in 2 weeks time doubt thats going to happen now.

If WSBK is clever about it, they will ship all equipment from Australia to Qatar and no personnel to go to Italy either.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2020, 10:34:36 am
So many rumors going around now with speculations and stuff of Dorna trying to help Marc with more time
That is a load of bollocks  :laughing4:

This was the Qatari government putting restrictions on people arriving into the country from Italy. As far as im aware the bikes and equipment are still in Qatar from last weeks testing.

Yes yes agree 100%. just stating rumors going around atm

BUT!  The rumour must be true.  Moto3 and Moto2 is going ahead and it was on Facebook too! :lol8:










Note:  Before anyone tells me, I am aware that all of Moto2 and Moto3 is already in Qatar due to the testing this pas weekend.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 02, 2020, 10:35:23 am
So many rumors going around now with speculations and stuff of Dorna trying to help Marc with more time
That is a load of bollocks  :laughing4:

This was the Qatari government putting restrictions on people arriving into the country from Italy. As far as im aware the bikes and equipment are still in Qatar from last weeks testing.

Not only from Italy, with pilgrims flooding in from all around the world travel restrictions are a reality for the next year to 18 months. I hope it goes ahead.. ive been rubbing my hands for a while for the 2020 season

Even if they are all in the country, the fans wont be able to fly in from some regions.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on March 02, 2020, 11:04:08 am
So many rumors going around now with speculations and stuff of Dorna trying to help Marc with more time

@FlexZA - What a load of nonsense, please get your facts straight.  Us Rossi fans know the real reason.  He only has to get the following 19 races cancelled as well so he can retire at the end of this season and Rossi fans can, from now until eternity, maintain that he would have won the 2020 season if only he had been able to race.

VALENTINO ROSSI ‘A LITTLE BIT WORRIED’ AHEAD OF PIVOTAL MOTOGP SEASON

Valentino Rossi reveals the tyre degradation woes that hampered his 2019 season have returned ahead of the 2020 MotoGP World Championship opener.

https://www.visordown.com/news/racing/motogp/valentino-rossi-‘-little-bit-worried’-ahead-pivotal-motogp-season?fbclid=IwAR2R074gqS9aMTdrPk8IyhF8RkXhiOaXNjz5TksrCjkMwugxI_5On63c2IY (https://www.visordown.com/news/racing/motogp/valentino-rossi-‘-little-bit-worried’-ahead-pivotal-motogp-season?fbclid=IwAR2R074gqS9aMTdrPk8IyhF8RkXhiOaXNjz5TksrCjkMwugxI_5On63c2IY)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 02, 2020, 11:13:16 am
I was actually waiting for this, given what is happening on the F1 side too. In fact news24 speculates that F1 may only start in May, let's hope the same is not true for MotoGP!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 02, 2020, 11:18:33 am
Yes is going to create havoc with sports that are travelling circus's . I have an international conference in Hong Kong in September and am already doubting it will happen. In reality how quickly can this virus be brought under control?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2020, 11:49:53 am
MM93 needs more time!?

Thailand MotoGP confirmed posponed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on March 02, 2020, 11:53:06 am
Why not just ban the 6 spectators that go to Qatar ...............
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 02, 2020, 11:59:57 am
Why not just ban the 6 spectators that go to Qatar ...............
Spectators? And the Italian riders? Start the season without them?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: kfc4unme on March 02, 2020, 12:20:58 pm
2 down, maybe 3...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200302/4265bf45def66e5e32fa28729d5a99e5.jpg)

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 02, 2020, 02:26:46 pm
Yes is going to create havoc with sports that are travelling circus's . I have an international conference in Hong Kong in September and am already doubting it will happen. In reality how quickly can this virus be brought under control?

I was watching some news with some brains behind things and she recons that the timeline for a cure / vaccine is 4 months to trials and 12 - 18 months for distribution,

I would assume that travel bans and restriction of movement is there to buy time until that comes into affect.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 03, 2020, 06:54:51 pm
Brad making good use of his extended holiday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/8f2e3f3650682d7952159586f6b7e71b.jpg)

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sputnik080 on March 04, 2020, 07:46:10 am
Brad making good use of his extended holiday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/8f2e3f3650682d7952159586f6b7e71b.jpg)

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I have been waiting for this for quite a while, can not miss it
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on March 04, 2020, 09:37:51 am
Brad making good use of his extended holiday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/8f2e3f3650682d7952159586f6b7e71b.jpg)

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I have been waiting for this for quite a while, can not miss it

This was hastily arranged whilst Brad was on the plane back here...... There will be partying whilst on leave
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sputnik080 on March 04, 2020, 09:42:54 am
I'm just glad he's finally coming to CPT!
Following all the events up in GP/Durbs, and nothing for CPT made me heay depro.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 07, 2020, 11:22:48 am
Qatar GP. 

Moto 3 - Darryn Binder
FP1:  10th, 0.8s off
FP2:  2nd, 0.1s off.

We could see some awesome racing.  In Moto3 the top 13 is within 1 second and in Moto2 the first 17 is within 1 second.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 07, 2020, 11:56:45 am
Qatar GP. 

Moto 3 - Darryn Binder
FP1:  10th, 0.8s off
FP2:  2nd, 0.1s off.

We could see some awesome racing.  In Moto3 the top 13 is within 1 second and in Moto2 the first 17 is within 1 second.

Watching the FP3 that has just started  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 07, 2020, 12:37:13 pm
Darryn retains pos 2  at this stage :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 09, 2020, 08:24:38 am
Damn that was close for Darren. :-\
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 09, 2020, 09:33:53 am
Damn that was close for Darren. :-\

Tony Arbilono is right off my Christmas card list!   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 09, 2020, 11:01:47 am
 :imaposer:  - Ja fooking agent - assasin!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 10, 2020, 05:14:33 pm
MotoGP in Austen, Texas which would have been the opener for the season on 3 April, after the cancellation of Qatar and postponement of Thailand has just been postponed to November.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 10, 2020, 05:20:59 pm
MotoGP in Austen, Texas which would have been the opener for the season on 3 April, after the cancellation of Qatar and postponement of Thailand has just been postponed to November.

 :-\
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 10, 2020, 05:46:26 pm
MotoGP in Austen, Texas which would have been the opener for the season on 3 April, after the cancellation of Qatar and postponement of Thailand has just been postponed to November.
Ai tog. :-\
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 10, 2020, 06:32:27 pm
Brad making good use of his extended holiday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/8f2e3f3650682d7952159586f6b7e71b.jpg)

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I have been waiting for this for quite a while, can not miss it

This was hastily arranged whilst Brad was on the plane back here...... There will be partying whilst on leave

Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2020, 06:54:32 am
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on March 11, 2020, 07:06:05 am
Latest 2020 MotoGP Calendar
Round   Date   Race   Circuit
1   8 March   Qatar (no MotoGP class)   Losail International Circuit
2   19 April   Argentina   Termas de Rio Hondo
3   3 May   Jerez   Circuito de Jerez - Angel Nieto
4   17 May   France   Le Mans
5   31 May   Italy   Mugello
6   7 June   Catalunya   Circuit de Barcelona - Catalunya
7   21 June   Germany   Sachsenring
8   28 June   Netherlands   TT Circuit Assen
9   12 July   Finland*   KymiRing
10   9 August   Czech Republic   Brno
11   16 August   Austria   Red Bull Ring - Spielberg
12   30 August   Great Britain   Silverstone
13   13 September   San Marino   Misano
14   27 September   Aragon   MotorLand Aragon
15   4 October   Thailand   Chang International Circuit
16   18 October   Japan   Motegi
17   25 October   Australia   Phillip Island
18   1 November   Malaysia   Sepang
19   15 November   Americas   Circuit of the Americas
20   22 November   Valencia   Comunitat Valenciana - Ricardo Tormo
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2020, 07:11:31 am
I think the above schedule, as it stands today, may still change again.  We wait and see.

Dorna, must by contract with FIM, have at least 13 races a year.  They have undertaken to do the full number though and therefore they will do their utmost to reschedule all (excluding Qatar) and possibly even have two races on one weekend a la WSBK.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 11, 2020, 10:16:25 am
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

Superstar? After winning a Moto? title?? Unless you mean locally only?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on March 11, 2020, 10:54:43 am
 :laughing4: Howzit Danie.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 11, 2020, 10:57:01 am
:laughing4: Howzit Danie.

Howzit Danie, the Pop Star  >:D
Fixed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2020, 11:01:46 am
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

Superstar? After winning a Moto? title?? Unless you mean locally only?

It was a Moto 3 world title.  You should remember that, or are you on really nifty meds?   ;)

Locally only Danie, locally only.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 11, 2020, 11:03:41 am
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

Superstar? After winning a Moto? title?? Unless you mean locally only?

Locally only Dan.

Locally LIKE Dan.
Fixed

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2020, 11:06:59 am
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

Superstar? After winning a Moto? title?? Unless you mean locally only?

Locally only Dan.

Locally LIKE Dan.
Fixed

 :imaposer:

Perhaps Oom Danie can work out a scale of superstarness for us, while he is lying around with his hands idle?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 11, 2020, 04:20:22 pm
I doubt his hands are idle  :pot:
 fapfap
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on March 11, 2020, 04:32:21 pm
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

I think the problem was that whether you wanted to meet and greet the Superstar, or just buy merchandise, you had to wait in the same queue. I spoke to a few people that were there specifically just to get a T Shirt for example but had to wait as you say for up to 4 hours. I wanted merch, and as I only got to wait for about an hour, I didn't mind waiting and I got him to sign my newly purchased cap, got a pic and wished him all the best for 2020.

I will say though, we hung about afterwards, had a few beers and a burger (very good) and even though he was still there more than an hour after the official slot ended, he never stopped smiling and being nice to everyone who eventually made it to the front to say hello.

Maybe the organizers underestimated just how many fans he has.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2020, 05:29:35 pm
MotoGP of Argentina posponed.   :(

Season opener currently planned to be 1 - 3 May at Jerez in Spain. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 11, 2020, 06:55:22 pm
Eish.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 11, 2020, 08:46:21 pm
I doubt his hands are idle  :pot:
 fapfap

Don't start a circle-jerk. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on March 11, 2020, 08:49:36 pm
 :laughing4: okay stop this now no reach arounds!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on March 11, 2020, 09:38:23 pm
ffs!  the media is making thing into something a lot worse than it is and now we have to suffer!  farking politicians must stay outta motorsport!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2020, 07:44:52 am
ffs!  the media is making thing into something a lot worse than it is and now we have to suffer!  farking politicians must stay outta motorsport!

Thankfully, not being able to watch a sporting event is not severe suffering and it is fact that the WHO just declared this Covid-19 thing a pandemic.  Personally, I think that organisations like Dorna, who will lose billions due to these changes are being led by experts, rather than the media.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sputnik080 on March 12, 2020, 08:13:48 am
Im glad I didnt bother going.. apparently guys were standing in the line for hours without it really moving.. a few wild dogs went and gave up after an hour or standing in the same spot.

I believe it took some 4 hours to get to the front of the line.  It happens when you attempt to meet and greet and have your picture taken with a super star.  Some gave up after standing in line for an hour.  Keep in mind, poor Brad stood at the end of that line for at least 4 hours! 

I am glad I got my picture with him, after he was World Champ for the first time, but before he became a super star.   :thumleft:

I think the problem was that whether you wanted to meet and greet the Superstar, or just buy merchandise, you had to wait in the same queue. I spoke to a few people that were there specifically just to get a T Shirt for example but had to wait as you say for up to 4 hours. I wanted merch, and as I only got to wait for about an hour, I didn't mind waiting and I got him to sign my newly purchased cap, got a pic and wished him all the best for 2020.

I will say though, we hung about afterwards, had a few beers and a burger (very good) and even though he was still there more than an hour after the official slot ended, he never stopped smiling and being nice to everyone who eventually made it to the front to say hello.

Maybe the organizers underestimated just how many fans he has.

A friend and I went through on Saturday, we were there at 10am and fortunately we were first in line.
We did not move an inch from the doors. :lol8:
Sitting and waiting was SOOOOOO worth it.
Chatting with some others in the line, chatting to the security etc.
Even the security said he's the nicest guy, most humble they've ever worked with.
I also heard at the last meet & greet up in Alberton (?), he stayed 3 hours after the official end time to make sure everyone got their chance.

It was an amazing experience and I am so glad we were there early.
The majority of the people only started rocking up just before 1pm oddly enough.
I reckon by the time we left there was probably around 300 people, by sounds of it, that number grew substantially.

I got my merch, photo and signature, I'm happy.

..........should've gotten more merch though.......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2020, 08:21:07 am
A friend and I went through on Saturday, we were there at 10am and fortunately we were first in line.
We did not move an inch from the doors. :lol8:
Sitting and waiting was SOOOOOO worth it.
Chatting with some others in the line, chatting to the security etc.
Even the security said he's the nicest guy, most humble they've ever worked with.
I also heard at the last meet & greet up in Alberton (?), he stayed 3 hours after the official end time to make sure everyone got their chance.

It was an amazing experience and I am so glad we were there early.
The majority of the people only started rocking up just before 1pm oddly enough.
I reckon by the time we left there was probably around 300 people, by sounds of it, that number grew substantially.

I got my merch, photo and signature, I'm happy.

..........should've gotten more merch though.......

What follows is easy for me to say as I am not the one who waited 4 or more hours, but to me, it is awesome news to see how his supporter base has grown.  He deserves it so much.

I remember his first years in Moto3 when he struggled, suffered and crashed riding average and even bad bikes because that was all that was available.  A very similar story that we currently see with Darryn.  He had no fans.  Well, he had a few.  If we lined up to wait for his signature and a picture, the line would have been all of 5 - 10 minutes long!  He has come such a long, long way.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on March 12, 2020, 11:45:48 am
The way things are going now, Jorge may be lining up for the first race of the year  :biggrin:.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2020, 12:22:06 pm
The way things are going now, Jorge may be lining up for the first race of the year  :biggrin:.

 :laughing4:

New conspiracy theory!  Dorna is not only delaying races to help MM93 and Honda recover, but also to have JL99 on the grid of the opening race!  The way they are going BB33 will be 42 by the time he makes his debut!

I have heard from a completely reliable source, which I have never met and only l know him by a false name on social media, so it must be true, that Dorna is considering deciding the 2020 MotoGP championship by games of Paper, Rock Scissors played via video link-up!     :3some: :snorting:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: teebag on March 12, 2020, 12:46:29 pm
Waiting for a Yamaha, sounds familiar


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sputnik080 on March 12, 2020, 01:28:22 pm
A friend and I went through on Saturday, we were there at 10am and fortunately we were first in line.
We did not move an inch from the doors. :lol8:
Sitting and waiting was SOOOOOO worth it.
Chatting with some others in the line, chatting to the security etc.
Even the security said he's the nicest guy, most humble they've ever worked with.
I also heard at the last meet & greet up in Alberton (?), he stayed 3 hours after the official end time to make sure everyone got their chance.

It was an amazing experience and I am so glad we were there early.
The majority of the people only started rocking up just before 1pm oddly enough.
I reckon by the time we left there was probably around 300 people, by sounds of it, that number grew substantially.

I got my merch, photo and signature, I'm happy.

..........should've gotten more merch though.......

What follows is easy for me to say as I am not the one who waited 4 or more hours, but to me, it is awesome news to see how his supporter base has grown.  He deserves it so much.

I remember his first years in Moto3 when he struggled, suffered and crashed riding average and even bad bikes because that was all that was available.  A very similar story that we currently see with Darryn.  He had no fans.  Well, he had a few.  If we lined up to wait for his signature and a picture, the line would have been all of 5 - 10 minutes long!  He has come such a long, long way.  :thumleft:

We waited 4 hours, and would easily wait another 4, just take a camping chair and refreshments with. :lol8:
He really deserves it and much more.

I've only been keeping track of the racing for the last 2 seasons, so still a little "new", but damn, I love it, I love the guys (most of them), and I love that our country is being represented in such a big way by such an awesome guy.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 12, 2020, 01:51:57 pm
The way races are being postponed now they might as well scrap the whole season and race twice at each track next year.  :xxbah:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on March 12, 2020, 02:49:32 pm
I had just convinced a mate of mine to part with 139 Gold Euro Pennies so that he can stream the season, he's mighty happy with me  ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2020, 04:15:25 pm
The way races are being postponed now they might as well scrap the whole season and race twice at each track next year.  :xxbah:

Two races per weekend may well be on the cards, but during this season already.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on March 12, 2020, 08:00:11 pm
The way races are being postponed now they might as well scrap the whole season and race twice at each track next year.  :xxbah:

Two races per weekend may well be on the cards, but during this season already.
How would that work? so lets say practice and qualifying in the week, then Race one on Saturday and Race two on Sunday..........it could actually be exciting.......and I wonder how the results will look from day one to day two.....for some reason I think it could be totally different for the two days.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on March 12, 2020, 08:08:29 pm
Double headers would be interesting.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 13, 2020, 06:26:47 am
Well, unless they race twice at the same circuit how are they going to move to the next circuit and have the bike setup, etc completed, etc within 24 hours? Not possible, of course. But I also don't see the point of racing twice at a given circuit?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on March 13, 2020, 08:07:22 am
Well, unless they race twice at the same circuit how are they going to move to the next circuit and have the bike setup, etc completed, etc within 24 hours? Not possible, of course. But I also don't see the point of racing twice at a given circuit?
If a championship needs "X" amount of races and lets say a lot of the tracks become unavailable, then why not?

WSBK have two races in one day for instance.

And like I mentioned, I think it will be interesting to see. I think it will bring interesting data, for instance if day one and day two look similar, it will show how consistent the teams are for those given days. If the results differ greatly it will show something else, like how good the riders's race craft etc.

I think it could be interesting for sure.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 13, 2020, 09:07:25 am
Well, unless they race twice at the same circuit how are they going to move to the next circuit and have the bike setup, etc completed, etc within 24 hours? Not possible, of course. But I also don't see the point of racing twice at a given circuit?


As ZK1 pointed out, WSB has run this highly entertaining formula for decades.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 13, 2020, 09:47:16 am
The way races are being postponed now they might as well scrap the whole season and race twice at each track next year.  :xxbah:

Two races per weekend may well be on the cards, but during this season already.
How would that work? so lets say practice and qualifying in the week, then Race one on Saturday and Race two on Sunday..........it could actually be exciting.......and I wonder how the results will look from day one to day two.....for some reason I think it could be totally different for the two days.

I reckon it would be very similar, if not exactly the same as WSBK.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 13, 2020, 10:08:19 am
I see all your points, and I agree it would be awesome to see. I just cannot imagine what purpose it would serve to race twice at the same track. Unless it is to fulfill some obligations re minimum races for the year. They would also have to do it at every circuit, to keep things fair, no?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 13, 2020, 10:19:18 am
I see all your points, and I agree it would be awesome to see. I just cannot imagine what purpose it would serve to race twice at the same track. Unless it is to fulfill some obligations re minimum races for the year. They would also have to do it at every circuit, to keep things fair, no?

It will be to fulfill an obligation, i.e to keep to the 13 race per year minimum contract they have with the FIM.  I am guessing. but I think stuff like TV rights will also impact on their decision.

Keeping things fair as far as tracks go will be very difficult.  For instance, Qatar is traditionally good for Yamaha.  That race is lost already.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2020, 07:47:02 am
29 March 2020, Mugello, Italy.  Race on!

VR, MM, FQ, MV and AR will take each other in in this once off MotoGP race!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937529/1/rossi-vinales-marquez-set-motogp-virtual-race
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on March 25, 2020, 02:25:20 pm
The way things are going now, Jorge may be lining up for the first race of the year  :biggrin:.

I have heard from a completely reliable source, which I have never met and only l know him by a false name on social media, so it must be true, that Dorna is considering deciding the 2020 MotoGP championship by games of Paper, Rock Scissors played via video link-up!     :3some: :snorting:

I think this is true as I heard that Honda and Yamaha are protesting Ducati's new automatic PRS system.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2020, 07:20:27 pm
The way things are going now, Jorge may be lining up for the first race of the year  :biggrin:.

I have heard from a completely reliable source, which I have never met and only l know him by a false name on social media, so it must be true, that Dorna is considering deciding the 2020 MotoGP championship by games of Paper, Rock Scissors played via video link-up!     :3some: :snorting:

I think this is true as I heard that Honda and Yamaha are protesting Ducati's new automatic PRS system.

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 29, 2020, 10:52:26 am
Looks like the the MotoGP eChampionship race will be life on DSTV 201 at 17:00 today.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on March 29, 2020, 03:10:53 pm
Looks like the the MotoGP eChampionship race will be life on DSTV 201 at 17:00 today.
MotoGP website says 16:00? Something to watch at least. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2020, 08:56:49 am
1. AM73
2. Pecco Bagniaia
3. Maverick
4. Fabi0
5. MM93
6. Rins
7. Mir
8.Oliviera
9. Lecuaona
10. Espargaro, A



Looks like the the MotoGP eChampionship race will be life on DSTV 201 at 17:00 today.
MotoGP website says 16:00? Something to watch at least. :thumleft:

Time difference my Omie!   ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on March 30, 2020, 09:19:23 am
I see Rossi didn't make the start. Born before computers?
Title: MotoGP 2020
Post by: teebag on March 30, 2020, 10:26:35 am
I see Rossi didn't make the start. Born before computers?
Rossi riding real bikes on the ranch

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/af64365414b336f56b3dc6cc90951b88.jpg)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2020, 10:56:19 am
It seems the next virtual race will be on 12 April.  Riders to be confirmed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on March 30, 2020, 03:53:40 pm
I see Rossi didn't make the start. Born before computers?
Rossi riding real bikes on the ranch

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/af64365414b336f56b3dc6cc90951b88.jpg)

He certainly needs all the practice he can get.

I hope he gets at least 1 podium before they boot him out - tired of listening to his fans scream for the 1st 5 laps & then going home.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2020, 04:55:22 pm
He certainly needs all the practice he can get.

I hope he gets at least 1 podium before they boot him out - tired of listening to his fans scream for the 1st 5 laps & then going home.

He won't be riding for the factory team next year, so effectively already kicked out. 

How many GPs did you attend to know the behaviour of the fans so well?   ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on March 30, 2020, 05:17:37 pm
He won't be riding for the factory team next year, so effectively already kicked out. 

How many GPs did you attend to know the behaviour of the fans so well?   ;) :lol8:

Love your question TheBear. You've seen the same thing then?

Trackside 7 but i watch all other races at the pub. Be it Gauteng, Eastern Cape, Asia or Europe, the behaviour is the same.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2020, 08:19:19 pm
He won't be riding for the factory team next year, so effectively already kicked out. 

How many GPs did you attend to know the behaviour of the fans so well?   ;) :lol8:

Love your question TheBear. You've seen the same thing then?

Trackside 7 but i watch all other races at the pub. Be it Gauteng, Eastern Cape, Asia or Europe, the behaviour is the same.

Nah, I have never noted such behaviour, but then, I watch on TV at home.  I have yet to see a VR fan leave after 5 laps, but then, I have yet to see one arrive prior to the race!  ;)

Personally, I would not complain if I were you.  If all the VR fans ducked after 5 laps, there would be only 2 guys left in the pub, leaving all the peanuts for you and him.   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on April 01, 2020, 11:52:00 am
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

The "others" will complain about the price of data.

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https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/03/31/enjoy-all-the-motogp-content-for-free/328457

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on April 01, 2020, 12:09:14 pm
^ That is mighty generous of them! :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2020, 12:50:47 pm
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 

Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 01, 2020, 12:54:00 pm
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 



Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?

Brad?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2020, 01:05:40 pm
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 



Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?

Brad?

No need to mention Brad.  He should be automatic and any Saffa's #1.  Any further discussion of the other riders is a debate on who is #2.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on April 01, 2020, 01:08:29 pm
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 

Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?

You're welcome. As the man said: BB33.

I follow(ed) JL99 - go watch his doccie (you would never pay to watch it, not so)?

1st on my list is the 1993 season.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on April 01, 2020, 01:10:39 pm
No need to mention Brad.  He should be automatic and any Saffa's #1.  Any further discussion of the other riders is a debate on who is #2.   :thumleft:

Definitely not VR46.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2020, 01:34:27 pm
No need to mention Brad.  He should be automatic and any Saffa's #1.  Any further discussion of the other riders is a debate on who is #2.   :thumleft:

Definitely not VR46.

I fixed that for you.  Thank me later.   >:D

Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 

Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?

You're welcome. As the man said: BB33.

I follow(ed) JL99 - go watch his doccie (you would never pay to watch it, not so)?

1st on my list is the 1993 season.

No, I wouldn't pay to watch a doccie on JL99, but to be fair, I wouldn't pay to watch one on VR46 either.  I never disliked JL99, except when he kicked VR's arse, but that is fair, I reckon.  I like the All Blacks, except when they beat the Springboks.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 01, 2020, 05:35:00 pm
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 01, 2020, 05:47:36 pm
For myself and all the other Rossie fans.. @TheBear

https://www.facebook.com/CRASH.NET.MOTOGP/photos/pb.143952490215.-2207520000../10156707357755216/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 01, 2020, 06:46:37 pm
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 

Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?

Bear, I am worried about the company seeking your company. :pot:

Han Solo should just ask this; "Where is Biaggi, Stoner, Capirossi, Edwards, Roberts, Lorenzo, Gibernau............all riders Rossi preceded, and outlasted.

Rossi is one of the greatest, and it is no coincidence you associate him with Yamaha. :deal: :thumleft: :drif: :drif: ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on April 01, 2020, 07:44:27 pm
No matter who you think is best ........................ we all want the old man to win.

That will be special, any other result is par-for-the-course, not so?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 01, 2020, 07:49:04 pm
No matter who you think is best ........................ we all want the old man to win.

That will be special, any other result is par-for-the-course, not so?

One last win would be nice indeed!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2020, 08:38:34 pm
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Sjoe!  You almost broke my little giallo heart when I noted you had excluded me. 

Just one thing.  Is there anything other than a Rossi fan and if so, who would they be a fan of?  Donald Duck?  Minnie Mouse?

Bear, I am worried about the company seeking your company. :pot:

Han Solo should just ask this; "Where is Biaggi, Stoner, Capirossi, Edwards, Roberts, Lorenzo, Gibernau............all riders Rossi preceded, and outlasted.

Rossi is one of the greatest, and it is no coincidence you associate him with Yamaha. :deal: :thumleft: :drif: :drif: ;)

There is a bloody lock down Danie.  One cannot be too choosy about the company you keep so anyone who talks to me, is considered my BFF!   :lol8:

Apart from being a huge Rossi fan, I am also a huge Yamaha fan.  Rossi and Yamaha go together like skaaptjops and braaibroodjies.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2020, 08:40:16 pm
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on April 02, 2020, 08:39:15 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2020, 08:49:51 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that? 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on April 02, 2020, 09:04:29 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that?
They wouldn't have to know the list of substances, isn't that what the team doctor is for? And, if you're competing it is risky eating at a restaurant with food of unknown quality. I mean he could simply get the runs too, I'm sure they screen for these things? If they don't then their ignorance sort of deserves a wake-up call. Do they even eat at restaurant (in competition weeks)? Is the food not prepared for the team, ala F1?

I see his explanation is that it is due to contaminated food ingestion, and CAS is leaning towards believing him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2020, 09:14:48 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that?
They wouldn't have to know the list of substances, isn't that what the team doctor is for? And, if you're competing it is risky eating at a restaurant with food of unknown quality. I mean he could simply get the runs too, I'm sure they screen for these things? If they don't then their ignorance sort of deserves a wake-up call. Do they even eat at restaurant (in competition weeks)? Is the food not prepared for the team, ala F1?

I see his explanation is that it is due to contaminated food ingestion, and CAS is leaning towards believing him.

The team Dr. would be involved with medical stuff I think.  I doubt he would be involved in what they eat.  You can also eat in a top notch restaurant and still get a piece of meat that was doped up with growth hormones.  You and I regularly eat meat at well known restaurants without knowing whether the meat was free range, or doped up on growth hormone.  It happens.

I don't know whether they eat all their meals with the team.  I doubt that.  There could be a meal with a sponsor, or something like that, but I can't be sure about that.  To me, it seems that there can be reasonable doubt and ifthat actually does exist, a ban that effectively ends his career is, I think, harsh.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on April 02, 2020, 09:17:49 am
Especially for the more positive WD's: @OomD @dirtyXT @Cracker @Bundu @Fudge @ktmmer @Offside @JonW @JustBendIt + you know who you are.

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edit: add @TheBear (& he's a Rossi fan - hahaha).

Tx. Solo  :thumleft:

Well, I tried that but there's a problem. Seems my email has already been used. It is very possible that I registered before for their free trial ............ I can't remember  :peepwall: :imaposer:

Unyil I get it sorted, I'll have to go back to Jou Ma for my jollies .................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on April 02, 2020, 09:20:37 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that?
They wouldn't have to know the list of substances, isn't that what the team doctor is for? And, if you're competing it is risky eating at a restaurant with food of unknown quality. I mean he could simply get the runs too, I'm sure they screen for these things? If they don't then their ignorance sort of deserves a wake-up call. Do they even eat at restaurant (in competition weeks)? Is the food not prepared for the team, ala F1?

I see his explanation is that it is due to contaminated food ingestion, and CAS is leaning towards believing him.

The team Dr. would be involved with medical stuff I think.  I doubt he would be involved in what they eat.  You can also eat in a top notch restaurant and still get a piece of meat that was doped up with growth hormones.  You and I regularly eat meat at well known restaurants without knowing whether the meat was free range, or doped up on growth hormone.  It happens.

I don't know whether they eat all their meals with the team.  I doubt that.  There could be a meal with a sponsor, or something like that, but I can't be sure about that.  To me, it seems that there can be reasonable doubt and ifthat actually does exist, a ban that effectively ends his career is, I think, harsh.

Surely if they give an animal a hormone it gets used by the same animal before it's killed, meaning there's none left for you and I to eat. I have no clue but this would be the logical way of doing things. Maybe bad farming practice kills animals woth hormones still in them .............. ??
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2020, 09:26:05 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that?
They wouldn't have to know the list of substances, isn't that what the team doctor is for? And, if you're competing it is risky eating at a restaurant with food of unknown quality. I mean he could simply get the runs too, I'm sure they screen for these things? If they don't then their ignorance sort of deserves a wake-up call. Do they even eat at restaurant (in competition weeks)? Is the food not prepared for the team, ala F1?

I see his explanation is that it is due to contaminated food ingestion, and CAS is leaning towards believing him.

The team Dr. would be involved with medical stuff I think.  I doubt he would be involved in what they eat.  You can also eat in a top notch restaurant and still get a piece of meat that was doped up with growth hormones.  You and I regularly eat meat at well known restaurants without knowing whether the meat was free range, or doped up on growth hormone.  It happens.

I don't know whether they eat all their meals with the team.  I doubt that.  There could be a meal with a sponsor, or something like that, but I can't be sure about that.  To me, it seems that there can be reasonable doubt and ifthat actually does exist, a ban that effectively ends his career is, I think, harsh.

Surely if they give an animal a hormone it gets used by the same animal before it's killed, meaning there's none left for you and I to eat. I have no clue but this would be the logical way of doing things. Maybe bad farming practice kills animals woth hormones still in them .............. ??

I am no expert, but my understanding is that we do digest levels of these hormones when we eat or drink product containing them.  While harmless to us, it seems that it can lead to positive tests, depending on the levels.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2020, 01:54:12 pm
While following the Iannone situation, I read a bit on drug testing and found some interesting things. 

The first is that the method of drug testing had developed to a level where it can detect minuscule amounts of a substance in a urine test.  So small, that the drug testing authorities are considering reworking their lists to state maximum levels, rather than zero levels.  Apparently, the drug Iannone tested positive for is used as a growth booster in cattle in many countries, including South Africa.  It is legal and acceptable.  It is said that a large number of people who regularly eat beef in any of these countries, would fail the same test Iannone did.  Very interesting is that some vegetables contains the ingredient naturally.  Scoffing down a can of baked beans, for instance would, apart from the side effect we all know and smell so well, also give a positive test if the modern day testing methods are followed. 

Back to Iannone.  The above, purely for interest sake, not an attempt to say Iannone is guilty, or not guilty.   His 18 month ban, is effectively a 24 months or more ban, since 18 months will take him to after the 8th event of 2021.  His current contract with Aprilia expires at the end of 2020 and he does  not have a contract for 2021.  I cannot see a team give him a contract knowing he will miss all winter testing for the 2021 season as well as first 8 races of 2021.  Effectively, he is out till start of the 2022 season and that could well mean, forever.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 03, 2020, 07:18:48 pm
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that?
They wouldn't have to know the list of substances, isn't that what the team doctor is for? And, if you're competing it is risky eating at a restaurant with food of unknown quality. I mean he could simply get the runs too, I'm sure they screen for these things? If they don't then their ignorance sort of deserves a wake-up call. Do they even eat at restaurant (in competition weeks)? Is the food not prepared for the team, ala F1?

I see his explanation is that it is due to contaminated food ingestion, and CAS is leaning towards believing him.

The team Dr. would be involved with medical stuff I think.  I doubt he would be involved in what they eat.  You can also eat in a top notch restaurant and still get a piece of meat that was doped up with growth hormones.  You and I regularly eat meat at well known restaurants without knowing whether the meat was free range, or doped up on growth hormone.  It happens.

I don't know whether they eat all their meals with the team.  I doubt that.  There could be a meal with a sponsor, or something like that, but I can't be sure about that.  To me, it seems that there can be reasonable doubt and ifthat actually does exist, a ban that effectively ends his career is, I think, harsh.

Surely if they give an animal a hormone it gets used by the same animal before it's killed, meaning there's none left for you and I to eat. I have no clue but this would be the logical way of doing things. Maybe bad farming practice kills animals woth hormones still in them .............. ??

I am no expert, but my understanding is that we do digest levels of these hormones when we eat or drink product containing them.  While harmless to us, it seems that it can lead to positive tests, depending on the levels.

So, why don't we perform like these athletes then? :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2020, 08:55:11 am
Iannone has an 18 month ban. Could just be a six month ban with Covid depending on if and when the 2020 season get going. I wonder if this also bans him from the playstation races? :o

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/04/01/iannone-handed-18-month-suspension/328777?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Iannonehanded18-monthsuspension&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1EyASyaSDOAUN1QL_ytPrbdl5ViZQYr0s0gOKYeuSWIlR4RJqfdQqVydo

A tad harsh, I think.  Hopefully his appeal to CAS will be successful.
Hmmm... if indeed he was doping himself to gain an advantage then it is nowhere near harsh enough. That being said, if he accidentally ingested it, through some food or unrelated meds or whatever then it should serve as a warning to be less ignorant of what he consumes. They all know the rules.

Well, it is questionable whether they do know all the rules.  The list of banned substances is longer than my arm and how the heck do you even know what is in the food you eat? If he did digest it from doped up meat eaten in a restaurant during a race week in the East, how would a person check that?
They wouldn't have to know the list of substances, isn't that what the team doctor is for? And, if you're competing it is risky eating at a restaurant with food of unknown quality. I mean he could simply get the runs too, I'm sure they screen for these things? If they don't then their ignorance sort of deserves a wake-up call. Do they even eat at restaurant (in competition weeks)? Is the food not prepared for the team, ala F1?

I see his explanation is that it is due to contaminated food ingestion, and CAS is leaning towards believing him.

The team Dr. would be involved with medical stuff I think.  I doubt he would be involved in what they eat.  You can also eat in a top notch restaurant and still get a piece of meat that was doped up with growth hormones.  You and I regularly eat meat at well known restaurants without knowing whether the meat was free range, or doped up on growth hormone.  It happens.

I don't know whether they eat all their meals with the team.  I doubt that.  There could be a meal with a sponsor, or something like that, but I can't be sure about that.  To me, it seems that there can be reasonable doubt and ifthat actually does exist, a ban that effectively ends his career is, I think, harsh.

Surely if they give an animal a hormone it gets used by the same animal before it's killed, meaning there's none left for you and I to eat. I have no clue but this would be the logical way of doing things. Maybe bad farming practice kills animals woth hormones still in them .............. ??

I am no expert, but my understanding is that we do digest levels of these hormones when we eat or drink product containing them.  While harmless to us, it seems that it can lead to positive tests, depending on the levels.

So, why don't we perform like these athletes then? :ricky:

In my case, apart from talent, I may be a tad .. uhm ... er ... ahum ... on the heavy side.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2020, 08:56:11 am
All day bike racing, like classic MotoGP races on channel 208.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on April 05, 2020, 05:15:03 pm
All day bike racing, like classic MotoGP races on channel 208.

Just watching Haga in his prime....... what a legend #41 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on April 05, 2020, 05:30:13 pm
All day bike racing, like classic MotoGP races on channel 208.


Just watching Haga in his prime....... what a legend #41 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:


Ag FOK!!!!! Sory manne ... internet is slow and doesn't show that it was posted... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2020, 06:39:56 pm
All day bike racing, like classic MotoGP races on channel 208.

Just watching Haga in his prime....... what a legend #41 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

"Nitro Nori" :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on April 05, 2020, 06:42:13 pm
All day bike racing, like classic MotoGP races on channel 208.

Just watching Haga in his prime....... what a legend #41 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

"Nitro Nori" :thumleft: :thumleft:

Absolutely Dan!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2020, 08:16:29 am
I enjoyed the race at Phakisa. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 07, 2020, 09:00:13 am
In an attempt the save on costs, there will be a freeze on bike development till the start of the 2022 session.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/937675/1/motogp-development-frozen-until-2022
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 09, 2020, 10:29:13 am
Next virtual MotoGP race this Sunday, 12 April at 15:00, probably 17:00 our time again.  Ten riders this time.

MarquezM
MarquesA
Maverick
Rossi
Quartararo
Petrucci
Bagniaia
Nakagami
Luthi
Dovi




Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 14, 2020, 02:57:34 pm
Red Bull RIng Virtual Results:

1. Pecco
2. Maverick
3. AM

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 18, 2020, 07:24:33 pm
Read this on a couple of facebook posts including Ride Fast magazine. I don't know how true its but as they say if its on the interwebs it must be true  :spitcoffee: :lol8:

MotoGP is preparing for races behind closed doors, with the first one being the Austria GP at the Red Bull Ring.

No media will be allowed, or spectators. The teams will have a barebones crew and it will be broadcast on TV as normal!
Image may contain: sky, outdoor and nature
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on April 19, 2020, 11:12:23 am
Read this on a couple of facebook posts including Ride Fast magazine. I don't know how true its but as they say if its on the interwebs it must be true  :spitcoffee: :lol8:

MotoGP is preparing for races behind closed doors, with the first one being the Austria GP at the Red Bull Ring.

No media will be allowed, or spectators. The teams will have a barebones crew and it will be broadcast on TV as normal!
Image may contain: sky, outdoor and nature
That'll be awesome, just to see some racing. 'm convinced most riders are itching to get going as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 20, 2020, 09:08:27 am
Read this on a couple of facebook posts including Ride Fast magazine. I don't know how true its but as they say if its on the interwebs it must be true  :spitcoffee: :lol8:

MotoGP is preparing for races behind closed doors, with the first one being the Austria GP at the Red Bull Ring.

No media will be allowed, or spectators. The teams will have a barebones crew and it will be broadcast on TV as normal!
Image may contain: sky, outdoor and nature

True.  The possibility is being investigated.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 20, 2020, 07:45:56 pm
Brads Parrot. The most frustrating video to watch with dogs barking and internet fails but still worth it.

https://www.facebook.com/donovan.fourie/videos/10157953655971226/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 20, 2020, 08:54:04 pm
Brads Parrot. The most frustrating video to watch with dogs barking and internet fails but still worth it. Brad is so relaxed and gives a proper honest interview. Lots of insights into the motogp world.

https://www.facebook.com/donovan.fourie/videos/10157953655971226/


https://www.facebook.com/MotoGP/videos/717263802346484/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: JonW on April 23, 2020, 05:23:37 pm
Rossi moving to Aprilia in 2021?

Real or a belated April Fools joke?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on April 23, 2020, 06:08:23 pm
Rossi moving to Aprilia in 2021?

Real or a belated April Fools joke?


Would be great, I think! A real make or break for Rossi and Aprilia both.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2020, 10:08:15 am
This rumour had been touring around somewhat.  Currently, I cannot find anything that confirms that a deal was signed.  Remember, he does have the option of a factory spec Yamaha in Petronas colours next year.  My wild guess is that Yamaha, Petronas and Rossi are in talks to create the Petronas VR46 team, with Rossi as a rider for 2021 and thereafter team manager.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on April 27, 2020, 12:22:24 pm
Don'y forget the Mafia  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2020, 12:49:52 pm
Don'y forget the Mafia  8)

Spanish mafia?
Italian mafia?
American mafia?
Stellenbosch boere mafia?
Japanese Samurai mafia?
BMW riders club mafia?
Be specific man!    ;) :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 28, 2020, 08:09:38 am
Virtual GP this Sunday.  Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 29, 2020, 02:04:30 pm
Don'y forget the Mafia  8)

Spanish mafia?
Italian mafia?
American mafia?
Stellenbosch boere mafia?
Japanese Samurai mafia?
BMW riders club mafia?
Be specific man!    ;) :biggrin:

Ons hou ons nie op met speletjies nie.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on April 29, 2020, 02:21:32 pm
Don'y forget the Mafia  8)

Spanish mafia?
Italian mafia?
American mafia?
Stellenbosch boere mafia?
Japanese Samurai mafia?
BMW riders club mafia?
Be specific man!    ;) :biggrin:

Ons hou ons nie op met speletjies nie.

Inderdaad!  So besig om die ANC sleg te sê deesdae, julle kry nie meer kans om BMW sleg te sê, geld te maak, of skelmpies in vakansiehuise aan te hou nie.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 03, 2020, 06:52:33 pm
1. Vinales
2. AM73
3. Pecca

Same three on podium.  Different order.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on May 08, 2020, 07:51:32 am
Looks like could be JEREZ IN JULY!  X2

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/07/proposal-made-to-hold-two-grands-prix-at-jerez/330264?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=seasonbreak_spanishGParticle_en&utm_campaign=Traffic&j=255177&sfmc_sub=36808727&l=97_HTML&u=18851473&mid=100010274&jb=869
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on May 08, 2020, 08:33:34 am
Anything, anything! Please just get racing already.  :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on May 08, 2020, 08:42:44 am
2 at the same place seems a bit iffy but I suppose they gotta chase the money as well. It's a bit bigger than a few midgets swinging handbags on fast bikes.

Like you, OomD, I'll accept anything. It is, after all, just about entertainment for the rest of us ......................  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on May 08, 2020, 09:09:33 am
A month old already, but still nice to keep reading news about him.

https://www.wheels24.co.za/BikesQuads/RacingNews/my-dads-been-making-me-take-out-the-garbage-how-brad-binder-is-making-the-most-of-lockdown-20200407
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 08, 2020, 10:33:15 am
2 at the same place seems a bit iffy but I suppose they gotta chase the money as well. It's a bit bigger than a few midgets swinging handbags on fast bikes.

Like you, OomD, I'll accept anything. It is, after all, just about entertainment for the rest of us ......................  :thumleft:

Janee!  Get them racing do we have something to watch and get excited about.  If that means two races a week apart on Jerez, so be it.  Heck, I am reaching a point where them racing around the parking lot of a shopping center will be okay! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2020, 05:44:33 pm
Seems a done deal, however still to be officially confirmed.

Petronas Yamaha rider for 2021:

VR46 and Franco Morbidelli

Apparantly VR46 will have an option to sign for 2022 as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 18, 2020, 08:29:21 am
Wow!  Virtual race from Misano was a good one.

AM73 nailing MM93 in th elast corner to take the win.  MM93 2nd and VR46 3rd after FQ crashed on the last lap.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 27, 2020, 04:14:07 pm
Jack Miller confirmed for Ducati Factory in 2021.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on May 27, 2020, 04:18:19 pm
is he replacing Petrucci or Dovi. Must be Petrucci.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 27, 2020, 05:05:11 pm
is he replacing Petrucci or Dovi. Must be Petrucci.

Petrucci.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on May 28, 2020, 08:24:57 am
Virtual racing from the UK this Sunday.  All three classes.  MotoGP will feature a wildcard in JL99.

Meanwhile, back on the 4-wheeled side of the ranch, a driver hires a ringer to race an e-sport race for him!   :patch:

 https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/29222650/fe-driver-abt-sacked-audi-esports-cheating
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 05, 2020, 08:15:35 am
Rumours going around that Pol Espargaro will be leaving KTM to join MM93 at Honda . I Was not expecting that. AM73 to go to LCR.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on June 05, 2020, 08:22:37 am
Romours going around that Pol Espargaro will be leaving KTM to join MM93 at Honda . I Was not expecting that. AM73 to go to LCR.

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Wow, getting rid of AM73 so quickly?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on June 05, 2020, 09:54:53 am
Maybe Cal is getting the boot for saying the Honda is crap to ride and it's only MM's riding skill that gets it where it is.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 05, 2020, 10:25:48 am
Romours going around that Pol Espargaro will be leaving KTM to join MM93 at Honda . I Was not expecting that. AM73 to go to LCR.

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Wow, getting rid of AM73 so quickly?

Maybe he just wasn't ready when they went into testing.. it was a very big ask of Alex to get into that role,

Lets see what happens, Ridefast Mag is saying that Pol is on the verge of signing but im not counting those chickens just yet.. I still rate Zarco for the seat.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 05, 2020, 01:51:06 pm
Ktm will probably then move Oliveira to the factory team.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2020, 03:24:33 pm
Romours going around that Pol Espargaro will be leaving KTM to join MM93 at Honda . I Was not expecting that. AM73 to go to LCR.

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Wow, getting rid of AM73 so quickly?

Poor kid.  Never even rode the Repsol Honda in anger and already hearing he is out next year.

I see Repsol Honda is denying this as a rumour at present.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on June 05, 2020, 06:26:26 pm
Ktm will probably then move Oliveira to the factory team.

Dovi has been made an offer and Crutchlow is a possible too... To spearhead development.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 05, 2020, 06:28:34 pm
Well if AM73 goes to LCR I think Cal will be looking for a ride as I dont think they will get rid of Nakagami.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on June 06, 2020, 04:56:59 pm
What's the link between Nakagami and Idemitsu? Are they funding him?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on June 07, 2020, 05:41:24 pm
What's the link between Nakagami and Idemitsu? Are they funding him?

Perhaps ...... Or a Honda+Nakagami link likely....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 10, 2020, 08:46:52 am
What's the link between Nakagami and Idemitsu? Are they funding him?

Unfortunately, in racing, the cheque book often talks loudest.  A rider bringing big sponsorship, will almost always have better opportunity than a rider, even if he is better, than a rider without the same big sponsorship.   There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 10, 2020, 11:53:22 am
Any more news on who is signing where?

Is Alex going to ride for repsol?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 11, 2020, 01:56:26 pm
Any more news on who is signing where?

Is Alex going to ride for repsol?

He will ride for Repsol for at least this year.  The 2020 season will feature 13 races starting on 19 July.

Calender:

19 July: Jerez, Spain
26 July: Jerex, Spain
9 Aug: Brno, Czech Republic
16 Aug: Red Bull Ring, Austria
23 Aug:  Red Bull Ring, Austria
13 Sept:  Misano, Italy
20 Sept: Misano, Italy
27 Sept: Catalunya, Spain
11 Oct: Le Mans, France
18 Oct: Aragon, Spain
25 Oct: Aragon, Spain
8 Nov: Valencia, Spain
15 Nov: Valencia, Spain

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on June 11, 2020, 02:16:03 pm
Dropped my DSTV from premium to the next layer .............. compact plus maybe. Saves R300 rand or so.

I can't remember what channel moto GP was on but I think I've lost 205 and 206.

Probably still got 6000 soccer channels, though............
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 11, 2020, 03:39:56 pm
7 races in Spain - WTF?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 11, 2020, 03:41:30 pm
7 races in Spain - WTF?

I believe the races are on tracks that expressed the readiness and desire to host these races with no income from spectators and who could obtain the required sponsors.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on June 11, 2020, 05:32:38 pm
7 races in Spain - WTF?


Dorna..... Repsol.....Avintia.....And a few others I forget
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on June 11, 2020, 07:34:33 pm
Dropped my DSTV from premium to the next layer .............. compact plus maybe. Saves R300 rand or so.

I can't remember what channel moto GP was on but I think I've lost 205 and 206.

Probably still got 6000 soccer channels, though............
Put that money into motogp. Com and watch whatever races we get this season live.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 12, 2020, 11:02:49 am
7 races in Spain - WTF?


Dorna..... Repsol.....Avintia.....And a few others I forget

Perhaps, but more likely:

- Countries who approved the Dorna Covid safety proposal
- Tracks willing to host a race without any spectator income
- Tracks willing and able to host races in close succession
- Availability of sponsorship at tracks where there will be no spectators

Also, there are four more races to be confirmed, all outside Spain.  The so-called "fly away" races.  These are currently not confirmed as solutions in terms of Covid not available yet.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on June 13, 2020, 09:43:32 am
I think the social distancing rule is gonna make it boring .......................
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 13, 2020, 10:14:21 am
I think the social distancing rule is gonna make it boring .......................

 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on June 14, 2020, 01:43:49 pm
I think the social distancing rule is gonna make it boring .......................

But with the right camera work you will hardly know it. 

It will be interesting to see how the results differ on the same circuit 2 weekends in a row.  My enthusiasm for this year's season is somewhat low though.  Hopefully that will chance once the first practice starts.  And it will chance for sure once BB takes to the circuit in anger, come to think of it, very much looking forward to that.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 14, 2020, 05:11:36 pm
I think the social distancing rule is gonna make it boring .......................

But with the right camera work you will hardly know it. 

It will be interesting to see how the results differ on the same circuit 2 weekends in a row.  My enthusiasm for this year's season is somewhat low though.  Hopefully that will chance once the first practice starts.  And it will chance for sure once BB takes to the circuit in anger, come to think of it, very much looking forward to that.

I read his comment to be a sarcastic remark on how far MM93 will be ahead of everyone else/  Yeah, I know.  I am a tad nuts, but I plead lockdown blues.   ;)

I fear we will initially not see much of BB33 due to the habit of concentrating TV coverage on the top 2 or 3. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 15, 2020, 01:57:33 pm
Forgetting about the championship .. riders.. sponsors.. legalities and CV-19

It would just be nice to watch the guys with their elbows on the tarmac again
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 15, 2020, 02:06:38 pm
Forgetting about the championship .. riders.. sponsors.. legalities and CV-19

It would just be nice to watch the guys with their elbows on the tarmac again

Agree  ;) Cannot wait for the racing to start ! All the talk and philosophies are getting a but much  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 15, 2020, 05:14:19 pm
Forgetting about the championship .. riders.. sponsors.. legalities and CV-19

It would just be nice to watch the guys with their elbows on the tarmac again

Agree  ;) Cannot wait for the racing to start ! All the talk and philosophies are getting a but much  ::)

Janee.  I would happily watch them race around East Gate Shopping Centre's car park!  They must just race now.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 15, 2020, 07:46:06 pm
Forgetting about the championship .. riders.. sponsors.. legalities and CV-19

It would just be nice to watch the guys with their elbows on the tarmac again

Agree  ;) Cannot wait for the racing to start ! All the talk and philosophies are getting a but much  ::)

Janee.  I would happily watch them race around East Gate Shopping Centre's car park!  They must just race now.

For sure  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on June 16, 2020, 01:29:25 pm
I think the social distancing rule is gonna make it boring .......................

But with the right camera work you will hardly know it. 

It will be interesting to see how the results differ on the same circuit 2 weekends in a row.  My enthusiasm for this year's season is somewhat low though.  Hopefully that will chance once the first practice starts.  And it will change for sure once BB takes to the circuit in anger, come to think of it, very much looking forward to that.

I read his comment to be a sarcastic remark on how far MM93 will be ahead of everyone else/  Yeah, I know.  I am a tad nuts, but I plead lockdown blues.   ;)

I fear we will initially not see much of BB33 due to the habit of concentrating TV coverage on the top 2 or 3.

Let's hope he will do a Quarteraro and we'll see lot's of him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 16, 2020, 05:37:54 pm
I think the social distancing rule is gonna make it boring .......................

But with the right camera work you will hardly know it. 

It will be interesting to see how the results differ on the same circuit 2 weekends in a row.  My enthusiasm for this year's season is somewhat low though.  Hopefully that will chance once the first practice starts.  And it will change for sure once BB takes to the circuit in anger, come to think of it, very much looking forward to that.

I read his comment to be a sarcastic remark on how far MM93 will be ahead of everyone else/  Yeah, I know.  I am a tad nuts, but I plead lockdown blues.   ;)

I fear we will initially not see much of BB33 due to the habit of concentrating TV coverage on the top 2 or 3.

Let's hope he will do a Quarteraro and we'll see lot's of him.

Heck, I hope he beats MM93 by a lap or so, but to be realistic, the KTM is not in that class yet.  Let us hope he does not do a Quartararo and crash less!   ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 17, 2020, 12:34:22 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on June 17, 2020, 01:12:37 pm
I been watching the Monster Energy Super Cross from the States, with no crowds.

Must say I got used to the lack of crowd noise pretty quickly, and one only sees the empty stands every now and then. Seems like the camera crews have been asked to avoid covering empty stands too much. So like everything else, it's an adjustment, but not the most difficult thing we've had to adjust to during these very strange times. I am also sure that the MotoGP organization will make sure we have a splendid viewing experience.

However, also a fan of MMA, and watching that without the noise from the crowd is a real eye opener. You can literally hear every smack, grunt, groan, the fighters talking to each other (sometimes quite amicably) and even recently Anthony Smith picking up his teeth and asking the ref to hold them for him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 22, 2020, 12:21:01 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 22, 2020, 12:30:13 pm
Oh and I see on GP news that Lorenzo was sniffing around a Yamaha ride again but its probably just headlines
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 22, 2020, 12:35:46 pm
Oh and I see on GP news that Lorenzo was sniffing around a Yamaha ride again but its probably just headlines

Jip  :thumleft: Seems George wants to come out of retirement  ;D The financial landscape has however massively changed over the last three months, so much so that the Factory Hi Rollers also have to check on their piggy banks  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 22, 2020, 01:27:54 pm
Oh and I see on GP news that Lorenzo was sniffing around a Yamaha ride again but its probably just headlines

Jip  :thumleft: Seems George wants to come out of retirement  ;D The financial landscape has however massively changed over the last three months, so much so that the Factory Hi Rollers also have to check on their piggy banks  ;)

True story, I think we going to see old frames etc being used next year. I cant see R&D having the money they used to. We may even see some teams drop out due to funding.

I think Lorenzo had a plan to make himself relevant during testing but CV-19 stopped all of that so if it was a strategy it suffered a big setback. I'm not discounting his come back though, he may still get it right. A world champ is always in with a shot over a rookie.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 22, 2020, 03:51:14 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 22, 2020, 03:56:29 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 22, 2020, 04:02:20 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 22, 2020, 04:08:57 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 22, 2020, 04:12:21 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)

Great!  They had better slaughter 25 big bulls to get enough leather to make comfortably fitting leathers for me!   :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 22, 2020, 04:15:05 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)

Great!  They had better slaughter 25 big bulls to get enough leather to make comfortably fitting leathers for me!   :snorting:

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: Presence in racing  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on June 22, 2020, 04:25:31 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)

Shoots his mouth off too often, without results to back it all up....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 22, 2020, 04:33:22 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)

Shoots his mouth off too often, without results to back it all up....

Exactly that  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 22, 2020, 05:55:42 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)

Shoots his mouth off too often, without results to back it all up....

Exactly that  :thumleft:

Darn!  There goes my chance of the KTM ride!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 23, 2020, 02:20:40 pm
KTM has confirmed that Pol has an offer from Honda. So there is truth to to rumor .

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/06/16/ktm-confirm-pol-espargaro-has-2021-repsol-honda-offer/331803?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=KTMconfirmPolEspargarohas2021RepsolHondaoffer&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2fjAKAabGR-2R9KO36jotYN7DmCIexfd-6x-J_y1Oej1yiqXXX7epADK8

We know the offer is there,.. we waiting to see if he accepts and it begs more questions than answers over Alex and where he is going..

With Dovi not sure if he will continue riding and as usual there is pressure on Rossi to retire but I think the Goat will be around until he drops past 10th place on a regular bases.

My guess:

Pol to Repsol Honda
Alex to LCR Honda (full factory bike and support)
Petrux to KTM
Rossi to Petronas Yamaha (full factory bike and support)
Dovi stays with factory Ducati

Agree with 1, 2, 4 & 5   :thumleft: Think Aprilia's golden boy won't pass the drug appeal so the big cop might sign for the Noale brand rather  ;)

Possible, but that leaves just Cal Crutchlow and me for the KTM seat!

You got a far better chance  :laughing4: Cal seems to finally have fallen out of favor with all the brands  ;)

Thats cos Cal keeps on falling.. I seriously like the guy and he has had some awesome results but everytime I strongly start supporting him he falls.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 23, 2020, 03:35:04 pm
Yes the old adage - to come 1st you first have to finish.  :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 23, 2020, 03:42:31 pm
Has anyone got any news on the testing that started today? KTM Aprillia Ducati and Suzuki.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on June 23, 2020, 03:47:55 pm
Has anyone got any news on the testing that started today? KTM Aprillia Ducati and Suzuki.
No live timing as yet
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 23, 2020, 03:48:54 pm
Has anyone got any news on the testing that started today? KTM Aprillia Ducati and Suzuki.
No live timing as yet

They don't usually have live timing from private testing as most teams do not use transponders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on June 23, 2020, 05:18:57 pm
Has anyone got any news on the testing that started today? KTM Aprillia Ducati and Suzuki.
No live timing as yet

They don't usually have live timing from private testing as most teams do not use transponders.
Broadcasters track the riders, but there isn't any info to be found
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 24, 2020, 12:06:54 pm
As per Motogp.com Bradley Smith will be racing the first two races of 2020 for Aprilia.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 24, 2020, 03:03:50 pm
Has anyone got any news on the testing that started today? KTM Aprillia Ducati and Suzuki.
No live timing as yet

Only saw this

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/938545/1/pol-fastest-day-one-misano-test
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 24, 2020, 03:05:48 pm
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 24, 2020, 03:11:35 pm
As per Motogp.com Bradley Smith will be racing the first two races of 2020 for Aprilia.

Easiest way forward for Aprilia, given the Crazy Firefighter's doping appeal still to be heard.Smith's been around the Noale garage for quite some time as a test racer, so he should at least by now understand the shortcomings of and  improvements to  the new RS GP V4.
 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on June 24, 2020, 06:32:50 pm
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html


Aaaaaand..... Pol ain't going there either....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 24, 2020, 07:57:22 pm
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html


Aaaaaand..... Pol ain't going there either....
Where ? Honda?


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 25, 2020, 09:35:47 am
Has anyone got any news on the testing that started today? KTM Aprillia Ducati and Suzuki.
No live timing as yet

Only saw this

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/938545/1/pol-fastest-day-one-misano-test

On day 2, Oliviera was fastest, but it doesn't mean much as many bikes do not have transponders.  KTM, for instance, do not have transponders on the Binder and Lecuona bikes.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on June 25, 2020, 10:59:55 am
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html


Aaaaaand..... Pol ain't going there either....
Where ? Honda?


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Yip.....

Correction.... Up in the air again...

Surprise KTM signing....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 25, 2020, 12:10:35 pm
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html

Who do you consider it great news that AM is out of HRC?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on June 25, 2020, 04:10:52 pm
Good news from BB's Facebook page -

KTM have announced they will rely on the skills of Brad Binder and Miguel Oliveira to represent Red Bull KTM Factory Racing in 2021. The South African and Portuguese, former Moto3™ and Moto2™ teammates, will reunite in the premier class. Brad, 24, has yet to make his MotoGP debut in 2020 but inked a new contract to remain in Red Bull KTM Factory Racing colors for 2021. [ 238 more words ]
https://bradbinder33.net/2020/06/25/brad-to-continue-with-red-bull-ktm-factory-racing-for-2021/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 25, 2020, 05:17:51 pm
Good news from BB's Facebook page -

KTM have announced they will rely on the skills of Brad Binder and Miguel Oliveira to represent Red Bull KTM Factory Racing in 2021. The South African and Portuguese, former Moto3™ and Moto2™ teammates, will reunite in the premier class. Brad, 24, has yet to make his MotoGP debut in 2020 but inked a new contract to remain in Red Bull KTM Factory Racing colors for 2021. [ 238 more words ]
https://bradbinder33.net/2020/06/25/brad-to-continue-with-red-bull-ktm-factory-racing-for-2021/

Excellent news that Brad will stay at least another year.  2020 doesn't really count anyway.  So Petrucci will ride for the Tech3 team in Oliviera's place.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 26, 2020, 11:34:45 am
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html

Who do you consider it great news that AM is out of HRC?

Sorry that is just a typo on the sentence structure, I meant good news that the article is finally giving away some information on who is going where.

I was really looking forward to seeing Alex ride for Honda. His 2019 championship ride was an excellent one and I think he earned a spot in GP. I honestly would have expected him to set a non factory ride but we all know that the Marquez family is heavily invested with Repsol and Honda.In any event I was just happy to see Lorenzo go.

I have'nt seen any news giving a hint as to why Alex is now out or what will happen to him, he doesnt seem to be getting a GP ride so he may go back down to Moto2 to try get a championship title , not sure.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on June 26, 2020, 05:24:54 pm

I have'nt seen any news giving a hint as to why Alex is now out or what will happen to him, he doesnt seem to be getting a GP ride so he may go back down to Moto2 to try get a championship title , not sure.

I hope he stays in MotoGP.  It is beyond cruel to get a Repsol Honda seat and then to go back to Moto2 without having been given the chance to show your worth.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 26, 2020, 07:16:04 pm
This article seems to be giving away a few places.. according to this Alex is out or Repsol.. great news.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/06/23/motogp/musical-chairs-crutchlow-the-first-excluded-lorenzo-wants-to-play-the-game.html

Who do you consider it great news that AM is out of HRC?

Sorry that is just a typo on the sentence structure, I meant good news that the article is finally giving away some information on who is going where.

I was really looking forward to seeing Alex ride for Honda. His 2019 championship ride was an excellent one and I think he earned a spot in GP. I honestly would have expected him to set a non factory ride but we all know that the Marquez family is heavily invested with Repsol and Honda.In any event I was just happy to see Lorenzo go.

I have'nt seen any news giving a hint as to why Alex is now out or what will happen to him, he doesnt seem to be getting a GP ride so he may go back down to Moto2 to try get a championship title , not sure.

 :thumleft:

Yeah, I was also looking forward to seeing him on the HRC bike as well.  Alex only had a one year contract.  I don't know why HRC decided not to sign him for another year, but I am pretty sure he will go to LRC.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 27, 2020, 10:32:29 am

I have'nt seen any news giving a hint as to why Alex is now out or what will happen to him, he doesnt seem to be getting a GP ride so he may go back down to Moto2 to try get a championship title , not sure.

I hope he stays in MotoGP.  It is beyond cruel to get a Repsol Honda seat and then to go back to Moto2 without having been given the chance to show your worth.

Alex Marquez - who is she again?  :o

Used as a Honda geisha girl to get MM ink on new contract.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 28, 2020, 12:18:25 pm

I have'nt seen any news giving a hint as to why Alex is now out or what will happen to him, he doesnt seem to be getting a GP ride so he may go back down to Moto2 to try get a championship title , not sure.

I hope he stays in MotoGP.  It is beyond cruel to get a Repsol Honda seat and then to go back to Moto2 without having been given the chance to show your worth.

Alex Marquez - who is she again?  :o

Used as a Honda geisha girl to get MM ink on new contract.

If HRC tricked MM93 and his team of managers, family members, legal eagles, etc. with this technique, I must bow to their superior strategic planning and giggle like a Sunday School girl at the incompetence of the MM93 team.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 28, 2020, 12:49:48 pm
yeah was a joke  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 28, 2020, 03:09:50 pm
yeah was a joke  8)

I know.   :thumleft:

Some seem to think it fact though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 28, 2020, 08:08:32 pm
Dovi has broken his collar bone in a mx training accident. Scheduled for surgery. Let's hope he is ready for the 1st race.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 29, 2020, 12:29:29 pm
sorry double post.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on June 29, 2020, 01:31:03 pm
sorry double post.
Thank goodness. For a moment I thought he broke his other collarbone too!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 29, 2020, 01:34:15 pm
Dovi has broken his collar bone in a mx training accident. Scheduled for surgery. Let's hope he is ready for the 1st race.

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It came at the wrong time for Dovi  :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 29, 2020, 01:59:19 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 29, 2020, 02:02:30 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 29, 2020, 02:06:59 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

Not sure about most ??? but just makes no sense when there is so much at play. There are competative Dakar racers that will not endulge enduro racing close to the event even though it is allied.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 29, 2020, 02:08:21 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

Not sure about most ??? but just makes no sense when there is so much at play. There are competative Dakar racers that will not endulge enduro racing close to the event even though it is allied.

Google bud....most do mx  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on June 29, 2020, 02:11:57 pm
Brad's first ride after lock down was on a KTM mx bike . Thats also how Rossi broke his leg a few years ago.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on June 29, 2020, 02:14:20 pm
Brad's first ride after lock down was on a KTM mx bike . Thats also how Rossi broke his leg a few years ago.

Correct  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on June 29, 2020, 03:50:31 pm
Dovi has broken his collar bone in a mx training accident. Scheduled for surgery. Let's hope he is ready for the 1st race.

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Such a pity, especially since the first race is only 2,5 weeks away.  I hope he can race.  Any missed races will be extra difficult to recover in a shortened season.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 29, 2020, 04:00:45 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

If you listen to Rossi, MM etc , most of them do MX to stay fit, that is the primary reason imo
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on June 29, 2020, 04:32:35 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

If you listen to Rossi, MM etc , most of them do MX to stay fit, that is the primary reason imo

Ja I know and obviously it is enjoyable and they do not have flat tracks on their doorstep. The reality is a 70kph off on an MX bike can be worse than 200kph on a track ... or 10kph on a MBX. But yes they will do what they want to unless their contract says otherwise.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on July 07, 2020, 09:00:55 pm
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/939004/1/jorge-lorenzo-reveals-ducati-negotiations-2021-motogp-are-underway

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 08, 2020, 03:30:19 pm
Jeez, they really scraping the bottom of the barrel now ................ maybe if they paint it blue, he can ride it properly.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 08, 2020, 04:08:58 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

Not sure about most ??? but just makes no sense when there is so much at play. There are competative Dakar racers that will not endulge enduro racing close to the event even though it is allied.

Google bud....most do mx  ;)
Very very few don't. Even the Ducati boys do MX
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 08, 2020, 04:10:16 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

If you listen to Rossi, MM etc , most of them do MX to stay fit, that is the primary reason imo

Ja I know and obviously it is enjoyable and they do not have flat tracks on their doorstep. The reality is a 70kph off on an MX bike can be worse than 200kph on a track ... or 10kph on a MBX. But yes they will do what they want to unless their contract says otherwise.
Tell that to Nicky Hayden's family.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 08, 2020, 08:24:03 pm
What are these guys thinking? FFS? They watching MM too much playing on plastics.  ::)

Most of them do mx and are very good at it  :thumleft: High risk though !

If you listen to Rossi, MM etc , most of them do MX to stay fit, that is the primary reason imo

Ja I know and obviously it is enjoyable and they do not have flat tracks on their doorstep. The reality is a 70kph off on an MX bike can be worse than 200kph on a track ... or 10kph on a MBX. But yes they will do what they want to unless their contract says otherwise.
Tell that to Nicky Hayden's family.

I was just thinking the other day how much  I miss Nicky Hayden.
When he had his mojo on, boy oh boy, it was just poetry in motion.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: reinton on July 10, 2020, 06:41:39 pm

 When is the first Moto GP?

 Need a fix urgently!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 10, 2020, 06:48:02 pm
19th July. I can't wait.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 10, 2020, 06:58:22 pm
Reports going around that VR46 has signed a 2 year deal with Petronas.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 10, 2020, 10:29:28 pm
Good for him  :thumleft:  ........................... I managed to sign a deal with BP today ............... for a shorter term, naturally, but I am a bit older.  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Skootaboy on July 11, 2020, 10:20:27 am
Is there any way one can live stream the GP for free? I am hesitant to upgrade my DSTV package as I now have to rely on my meagre monthly pension.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on July 13, 2020, 12:32:37 pm
Now there is finally confirmation that Pol Espargo is going to ride for HRC, Alex Marquez has a two year deal to ride for LCR Honda from next season and Crutchlow is out of LCR.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 13, 2020, 01:08:27 pm
Yeah, just saw that on my news feed.. Crux out is not what I expected.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 13, 2020, 02:36:08 pm
Now there is finally confirmation that Pol Espargo is going to ride for HRC, Alex Marquez has a two year deal to ride for LCR Honda from next season and Crutchlow is out of LCR.

Think Paul ( Pol )  ;D will do quite well at HRC and its not bad that Alex gets premium experience at LCR. Cal seems to have run out of options, finally.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on July 13, 2020, 04:12:05 pm
So who becomes MM93 team mate in 2021?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dwerg on July 13, 2020, 04:21:49 pm
So who becomes MM93 team mate in 2021?

Pol Espargaro
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on July 14, 2020, 02:21:46 pm
So who becomes MM93 team mate in 2021?

Pol Espargaro

Doh, I read HRC and thought LCR, OK I'm awake now
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on July 14, 2020, 04:10:16 pm
Wonder if Brad is going to wear the sunglasses I made him for Qatar? We all know how that went.

Still don't know if I can really say anything on my Facebook page or Instagram, don't want to get into trouble. haha.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 17, 2020, 11:51:26 am
FP1 Brad in 10th spot. 3 x KTM's in the top 10.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Leo on July 17, 2020, 01:13:54 pm
On a side note - I cancelled my DSTV last year. Ya, fuckem  :thumleft:

Where/how/what website can I view the MotoGP live, streaming?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 17, 2020, 01:24:08 pm
On a side note - I cancelled my DSTV last year. Ya, fuckem  :thumleft:

Where/how/what website can I view the MotoGP live, streaming?
Motogp.com. Subscribe.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 17, 2020, 01:54:50 pm
Can't wait for the racing on Sunday and if the pack will be able to realistically chase down the MM93 rabbit  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on July 17, 2020, 03:04:35 pm
BB33 3rd in FP2!!!! 0.1 second quicker than MM93
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 17, 2020, 03:52:20 pm
BB33 3rd in FP2!!!! 0.1 second quicker than MM93

Saw that and its good  :thumleft: Practice isn't racing though, coming from a big Brad fan  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 17, 2020, 04:16:13 pm
BB33 3rd in FP2!!!! 0.1 second quicker than MM93

Saw that and its good  :thumleft: Practice isn't racing though, coming from a big Brad fan  8)

True but does inicate he is on point.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 17, 2020, 06:23:29 pm
On a side note - I cancelled my DSTV last year. Ya, fuckem  :thumleft:

Where/how/what website can I view the MotoGP live, streaming?

I just rejoined DSTV a couple days ago .........................cheapest option so far.

Unless you're a child or a master of the dark web, you gotta pay .................................  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 17, 2020, 06:36:23 pm
BB33 3rd in FP2!!!! 0.1 second quicker than MM93

Saw that and its good  :thumleft: Practice isn't racing though, coming from a big Brad fan  8)

True but does inicate he is on point.

Sure  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 17, 2020, 08:39:39 pm
On a side note - I cancelled my DSTV last year. Ya, fuckem  :thumleft:

Where/how/what website can I view the MotoGP live, streaming?

I just rejoined DSTV a couple days ago .........................cheapest option so far.

Unless you're a child or a master of the dark web, you gotta pay .................................  ::)

Fooking Thieves - in the same league as Eishkom, SABC, Telkom, etc.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 18, 2020, 08:16:40 am
Brad Binder 3rd in FP2 0.125 seconds off p1.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 18, 2020, 08:29:28 am
You are all sorryful slaves of DSTV.

I drive to a friend's house to watch, who has DSTV...... :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on July 18, 2020, 09:22:51 am
You are all sorryful slaves of DSTV.

I drive to a friend's house to watch, who has DSTV......
You have friends? :imaposer:



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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 18, 2020, 12:40:38 pm
You are all sorryful slaves of DSTV.

I drive to a friend's house to watch, who has DSTV......
You have friends? :imaposer:



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Dont think it is Steve Hopeier then, must be one of his other friends :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on July 18, 2020, 02:14:33 pm
Love the praise BB33 is getting!

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 18, 2020, 05:03:49 pm
Love the praise BB33 is getting!

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Yep, seems they like South Africans ................ can't stop mentioning where he's from.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 18, 2020, 05:46:47 pm
Yep they keep mentioning him, even showing (for a brief moment) Pol as a South african rider.  :imaposer:

But yeah, also loving how impressed they are with riding. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on July 18, 2020, 06:06:50 pm
I switched the tv on just as BB moved into 2nd QP1, what a boytjie, beating AM73 fair and square, for me that is the gauge this year, BB beating AM
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 19, 2020, 11:52:14 am
Ai tog, DB40 out just on last lap again
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 19, 2020, 04:39:02 pm
Marc Marques simply crashes too much.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 19, 2020, 04:42:50 pm
Great race at Jerez  :thumleft: Quartararo surely is the new face of Moto GP. Good second for the Maverick and low step for Dovi  ;) Pol Espargaro showed why HRC was right in signing him up for next year.Brad's 13th is commendable - its a rough jungle to be thrown in with cagey old gun slingers  8) MM93......well what can one say......if you live by the golden sword, just some days its razor sharp edge slices you a bit  :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 19, 2020, 04:58:24 pm
And I see that MM93 has a broken humerus , from what I have seen that usually requires a lengthy recovery period , this could well be the end of his championship
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 19, 2020, 05:08:03 pm
And I see that MM93 has a broken humerus , from what I have seen that usually requires a lengthy recovery period , this could well be the end of his championship

Jip, seems the right arm was badly broken.Agree, 2020 season surely now over for him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 19, 2020, 06:44:13 pm
No, these are aliens.

Dovi snapped his collarbone 2 weeks ago and snatched a 3rd.

I remember Rossi racing with a broken leg

Rins is expected back next week after tearing his shoulder ligaments.

They are not us, remember that .......................................... MM will skip a race and win the next.

You know it, I know it and he has already planned it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 19, 2020, 07:45:55 pm
No, these are aliens.

Dovi snapped his collarbone 2 weeks ago and snatched a 3rd.

I remember Rossi racing with a broken leg

Rins is expected back next week after tearing his shoulder ligaments.

They are not us, remember that .......................................... MM will skip a race and win the next.

You know it, I know it and he has already planned it.

He'll only win the race if he does not ride like today.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 19, 2020, 08:00:32 pm
I dunno ........................... he's the only guy I've seen who can fall off a bike and then fall back on ...................... not even Rossi,بارك الله روحه  , could do that.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 19, 2020, 08:07:29 pm
No, these are aliens.

Dovi snapped his collarbone 2 weeks ago and snatched a 3rd.

I remember Rossi racing with a broken leg

Rins is expected back next week after tearing his shoulder ligaments.

They are not us, remember that .......................................... MM will skip a race and win the next.

You know it, I know it and he has already planned it.

Sure the ous are tough and super fit and MM is probably tougherer than the rest........but today's hi - side hurt him really bad  :( That arm fracture isn't a collarbone either  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 19, 2020, 09:07:17 pm
The possible nerve damage is the worry. These aliens though do heal better and quicker than humans.  O0
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on July 19, 2020, 10:43:20 pm
"Falling heavily on his side, doctors have since revealed he has suffered a fracture to the humerus in his right arm, an injury that will necessitate surgery but not until Tuesday 21st July at the earliest as doctors first need to stabilise the limb."

"With this in mind, it is almost certain Marquez won’t ride in Jerez again next weekend, with MotoGP Medical Director Dr Charte suggesting Brno or even Round 4 in Austria as being the more likely return date"

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/940175/1/doctors-explain-severity-marquez-injury-tyre-impact-breaks-arm


We might just see a new champion this year. Go BB33 :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:

Or even FQ20
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 20, 2020, 06:07:39 am
FQ20 just doesn't read right :lol8:

Pity they didn't show what happened to BB33 to end up stone last, by quite a bit. But, just like he's done on Moto2, and how MM93 did in this race, he started climbing the field again. The race was just too short, but a brilliant effort anyway if you ask me.

Great pity about MM93's off, when it happened I told wifey I'd be very surprised if nothing is broken.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on July 20, 2020, 07:21:14 am
Possible radial nerve damage, seems his break is in a critical area which not only controls muscles in the upper arm but forearm and the hands. He may well be in fore some really invasive surgery and a long recovery period, alien or not.

It was just good to see some racing again  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Tabasco on July 20, 2020, 07:40:01 am
And I see that MM93 has a broken humerus , from what I have seen that usually requires a lengthy recovery period , this could well be the end of his championship
Ouch (been there done that)
Quickest recovery bmo plate
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 20, 2020, 07:47:03 am
The possible nerve damage is the worry. These aliens though do heal better and quicker than humans.  O0

Nothing alien about them in this regard, any reasonably fit person with a strong mind will heal as quick, given their medical regimen.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 20, 2020, 09:20:02 am
That race from 16 till podium from MM after his mx stint on the gravel was just epic.  How is it possible for one person to cut through the pack like that.  Only oke he didnt pass was BB and FQ :biggrin:  it was insane.  What a champ.  VR got such a fright he nearly went off the track.. :imaposer:  ou Danie MM sal vir Eddie Lawson laat lyk of hy parking soek... :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 20, 2020, 09:28:00 am
That race from 16 till podium from MM after his mx stint on the gravel was just epic.  How is it possible for one person to cut through the pack like that.  Only oke he didnt pass was BB and FQ :biggrin:  it was insane.  What a champ.  VR got such a fright he nearly went off the track.. :imaposer:  ou Danie MM sal vir Eddie Lawson laat lyk of hy parking soek... :biggrin:

Our own BB pulled a similar staunt in a race a year or two back, from very far behind he actually won the race.

Valentine Rossi, Joey Dunlop and many oter great champions has on thing in common, minimal crashes.

When MM was storming through the field, I said to my buddy that if he does not crash again, I will be in admiration. But because of his early mistake, he abused his tyres until they spewed him off. :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 20, 2020, 09:34:18 am
One thing of MM, he is a balls to the wall fellow.  All or nothing.  I dont know if i want to salute or shoot him for that :laughing4:  ill be bold enough to say it.  MM is the best I ever saw in my lifetime.  Every race i enjoy him, but worry when he will go one step too far. Hopefully this crash may settle him down, but i doubt it.  I agree Danie, he will do much better if if only take 1% off.  He could just have settled for a podium yesterday, but no...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dustbiter on July 20, 2020, 10:27:01 am
Any news on what happened to BB#33?
Laps 1- 6 in P7,
Then suddenly in lap 7 ends up in P18.
Pity nothing was shown on the channel I saw.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 20, 2020, 10:43:54 am
Any news on what happened to BB#33?
Laps 1- 6 in P7,
Then suddenly in lap 7 ends up in P18.
Pity nothing was shown on the channel I saw.
Went wide in turn 4 and fell over in the gravel, remounted and pushed
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dustbiter on July 20, 2020, 10:52:16 am

Went wide in turn 4 and fell over in the gravel, remounted and pushed
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Thanks @cocky  - pity there was no explanation on the TV channel I was watching, but this explains what happened!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 20, 2020, 10:57:16 am

Went wide in turn 4 and fell over in the gravel, remounted and pushed

Thanks @cocky  - pity there was no explanation on the TV channel I was watching, but this explains what happened!
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There will be a chat with him on the RideFast FB page with Donovan Fourie and Rob Portman, I think they trying for Wednesday round 19:00.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 20, 2020, 01:26:07 pm
One thing of MM, he is a balls to the wall fellow.  All or nothing.  I dont know if i want to salute or shoot him for that :laughing4:  ill be bold enough to say it.  MM is the best I ever saw in my lifetime.  Every race i enjoy him, but worry when he will go one step too far. Hopefully this crash may settle him down, but i doubt it.  I agree Danie, he will do much better if if only take 1% off.  He could just have settled for a podium yesterday, but no...

And even if he takes 1% off, he'll still be as quick as hell.

We should send him the Wayne Rainey video, so he can take notice what crashing may bring. And Wayne was a non-crasher.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 20, 2020, 03:18:54 pm
After so long waiting.. MM was brilliant. He deserves to be world Champ again but with this shortened year and a DNF with probably a DNF coming up I think his run may be over before he gets any traction.

After the race you could see the riders were buggered, that heat looked insane,

I am super happy for FQ, its fantastic to see the young guns come out and give the factory teams a hard time, Rossi & Vinalez will have some work to do.

What on earth is the story behind Alex Marquez??? they did'nt mention him once in the whole race.. no mention as to why he was so slow ??? there must be something wrong there and its probably tied to the reason why he didnt really get going for Repsol Honda. I'm not sure if he is injured or what the problem could be.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 20, 2020, 03:30:48 pm
 MM

Hope his father and manager gave him an ear full. Although entertaining to watch bad move for the team and his sponsers. I'd rather watch him in every race than one brilliant one and then out for the rest of the year or most of.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 20, 2020, 03:51:11 pm
MM

Hope his father and manager gave him an ear full. Although entertaining to watch bad move for the team and his sponsers. I'd rather watch him in every race than one brilliant one and then out for the rest of the year or most of.

You don't go from almost last place to the podium without having massive skill, killer instinct, aggression, etc etc

When everyone rides single file lap after lap the keyboard warriors come out complaining that GP is boring.

I would rather watch MM ride like that and crash out than have him sit in the middle of the pack like Rossi and make no moves .. Im sure the sponsors agree as MM dominated the screen time which is what sponsors want as well as winners.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 20, 2020, 04:00:14 pm
Im sure the sponsors

Would a sponsor not like to see him in every race through the year? Think it would be better for them.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 20, 2020, 04:12:18 pm
When you race on the edge as MM does it will catch up and no amount of talent will help , as it has now .
Having said that , in general guys that ride like MM tend to win races while the VR’s win championships , then MM went and turned that theory on its head .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 20, 2020, 05:08:48 pm
No matter what, every fall sits in your bones, and even your mind.

MM is reaching a point where he will start battling crashghosts, like he was in this race.

I think that all the oooohh and aaahhs he's been getting for his truly marvelous saves of own overcooking is going to his head, and he is now hunting the crash-save adolation, rather than a win.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 20, 2020, 07:38:30 pm

No matter what, every fall sits in your bones, and even your mind.

MM is reaching a point where he will start battling crashghosts, like he was in this race.


Indeed, his falls are not just sitting in his bones but like any professional sportsperson the injuries and scars are accumalitive and eventially debilitating. Personally I do not think he gives one flying continetal fook about crashghosts - he does not have the time or mentality for such. He is an all or nothing rider who rides alone in the zone, focussed only on the front through the red mist. Whether his broken bones will catch up with him before he has broken all the records remains to be seen.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 20, 2020, 08:06:09 pm
I don’t know Dom , he might have one fall which causes an injury big enough to spook him , it might be now or later for that matter , then again he could also just carry on as he is .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 20, 2020, 08:11:46 pm
Doubt if the combination of sheer aggression, wicked talent and skills and a mighty quick ( difficult to race hard ) Honda alone, will be sufficient tools for MM to step up again in the following weeks.Agree with others that the pounding his body is taking with the heavy crashes will get to him physically and psychologically.Its not dissimilar to a golden boy prize fighter, who is heavily contracted to wipe opponents out and then lets his chin out for a fraction of a second and get KO'd by a beginner opponent......it sits in the memory, no matter who you are  ;) His HRC bosses are surely very pissed with the ou, because there is no stand in for their very expensive seat for coming weekend's race.Only little brother for now  :o   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 20, 2020, 10:18:15 pm
Serves Honda right for nepotism
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 20, 2020, 10:19:58 pm
I hate to say it since I like KTM in motogp - Honda’s second seat will be well served with BB in it. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 20, 2020, 10:43:55 pm
Well, if the race is half as good as it was this last weekend, then i cant wait for this weekend.  BB will have learned a lot from qualifying and the race and I'm hoping for a top 6 for our boy.  He did us proud.  Pity his boet hasnt got his temperament, so much talent they both have and I think a few race teams have seen what BB is capable of.  KTM have done well to keep him but will have their hands full although i feel BB is fairly loyal.  KTM dont like losing which is great for our boy!

Pity about MM. He was killing everyone but couldve got second if he only gave 100% instead of his normal 110%!  He has the ability to play with the rest of the guys, maybe the moment got to him, first race and all.  It's a marvel to watch him pick the bike up with his knee and elbow and then race past everyone like it didnt happen.  Wouldve loved to see him and FQ toward the end cos i think FQ wasnt pushing and was only 2/10ths slower than MM who obviously was.

Cant wait!   :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 21, 2020, 07:47:47 am
Serves Honda right for nepotism

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on July 21, 2020, 07:56:59 am
Although I am not a MM fan he is hugely talented and not a nancy-boy( I never said that  :biggrin:). In 2011 his career almost ended with a massive accident (125 class) that caused a massive eye injury and nerve damage. He worked past that and recovered after 5 months, yes he was younger but I am sure he will get through this.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 21, 2020, 08:00:52 am
Although I am not a MM fan he is hugely talented and not a nancy-boy( I never said that  :biggrin:). In 2011 his career almost ended with a massive accident (125 class) that caused a massive eye injury and nerve damage. He worked past that and recovered after 5 months, yes he was younger but I am sure he will get through this.
He didn't learn then or now, he is pushing to hard to make his point and soon he will be in the same situation as Dani Pedrosa. His body will be able to take any more hits, more over he is the only rider performing on a bike built for him, Honda have created this dilemma and now that he is out their season is shot, no other rider can ride the thing and be competitive, Crutchlow tries, but even he is struggling.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on July 21, 2020, 08:05:43 am
Possibly but he is not made of glass like poor Danny, maybe halfway between him and Mick Doohan  :thumleft:

I do agree with you somewhat cocky, for a long time I have said that sooner or later MM's luck will run out and he will begin to pick up injuries. lets see where this takes him  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 21, 2020, 08:13:13 am
If we look further down the top ten field, Pol Espargaro and Oliviera on the RC16's also impressed, as did Bagnaia.What's the feeling on Miller or is it too soon for evaluation for next year's no1 Duc racer ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 21, 2020, 08:16:12 am
If we look further down the top ten field, Pol Espargaro and Oliviera on the RC16's also impressed, as did Bagnaia.What's the feeling on Miller or is it too soon for evaluation for next year's no1 Duc racer ?
Miller has got great talent, he needs to work on his temperament a bit and his race craft.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 21, 2020, 08:24:55 am
If we look further down the top ten field, Pol Espargaro and Oliviera on the RC16's also impressed, as did Bagnaia.What's the feeling on Miller or is it too soon for evaluation for next year's no1 Duc racer ?
Miller has got great talent, he needs to work on his temperament a bit and his race craft.

Agree, attitude seems to have been an issue for him as well as a very happy go lucky personality.I read somewhere that Stoner spoke long and hard to him ( on request of Ducati ) to take racing more seriousely. No doubt, he has heaps of talent and potential.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on July 21, 2020, 10:02:05 am
Now wouldn't it be grand if HRC brought Stoner back to sub for MM..... Alex's bottom lip would be shaking at the prospect of a retiree kicking his arse  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 21, 2020, 10:10:58 am
They must sommer give his bike to Johann Zarco. He is the one guy I feel could have done much better in his career.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on July 21, 2020, 10:14:13 am
They must sommer give his bike to Johann Zarco. He is the one guy I feel could have done much better in his career.

Funny enough, the talk around the paddock is that BB is the one guy who can/would ride HRC bike aggressively enough to get the best out of it...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 21, 2020, 10:38:42 am
They must sommer give his bike to Johann Zarco. He is the one guy I feel could have done much better in his career.

Funny enough, the talk around the paddock is that BB is the one guy who can/would ride HRC bike aggressively enough to get the best out of it...

My thoughts from last year.  BB on a Honda...  jeez

To reiterate, MM is the best rider by a long shot I saw in my lifetime.  He is just in a different league altogether.  BB in my mind is the nearest in style to him, maybe slightly less raw talent but with a more calculating mind.  Both can lead from the start and set the pace, both can dogfight and be aggressive, both can chase through the pack. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 21, 2020, 10:43:28 am
Did you see all the riders get knee down..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on July 21, 2020, 10:50:25 am
Did you see all the riders get knee down..

 :thumleft: :imaposer: :thumleft: :imaposer:


Black Lines Matter!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on July 21, 2020, 10:51:41 am
They must sommer give his bike to Johann Zarco. He is the one guy I feel could have done much better in his career.

Funny enough, the talk around the paddock is that BB is the one guy who can/would ride HRC bike aggressively enough to get the best out of it...

My thoughts from last year.  BB on a Honda...  jeez

To reiterate, MM is the best rider by a long shot I saw in my lifetime.  He is just in a different league altogether.  BB in my mind is the nearest in style to him, maybe slightly less raw talent but with a more calculating mind.  Both can lead from the start and set the pace, both can dogfight and be aggressive, both can chase through the pack.

Ek kannie uitpraat nie Hein maar ...... It was closer than most think....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 21, 2020, 10:53:03 am
Doubt if the combination of sheer aggression, wicked talent and skills and a mighty quick ( difficult to race hard ) Honda alone, will be sufficient tools for MM to step up again in the following weeks.Agree with others that the pounding his body is taking with the heavy crashes will get to him physically and psychologically.Its not dissimilar to a golden boy prize fighter, who is heavily contracted to wipe opponents out and then lets his chin out for a fraction of a second and get KO'd by a beginner opponent......it sits in the memory, no matter who you are  ;) His HRC bosses are surely very pissed with the ou, because there is no stand in for their very expensive seat for coming weekend's race.Only little brother for now  :o   

They had their test rider on the plane on Sunday already.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 21, 2020, 11:01:35 am
They must sommer give his bike to Johann Zarco. He is the one guy I feel could have done much better in his career.

Funny enough, the talk around the paddock is that BB is the one guy who can/would ride HRC bike aggressively enough to get the best out of it...

My thoughts from last year.  BB on a Honda...  jeez

To reiterate, MM is the best rider by a long shot I saw in my lifetime.  He is just in a different league altogether.  BB in my mind is the nearest in style to him, maybe slightly less raw talent but with a more calculating mind.  Both can lead from the start and set the pace, both can dogfight and be aggressive, both can chase through the pack.

Ek kannie uitpraat nie Hein maar ...... It was closer than most think....

Man o man, and I called it. Ask @pielas

BB is a loyal oke to KTM though, which is admirable.  Maybe in 2022?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 21, 2020, 11:08:55 am
Would they ask Pedrosa to come back to keep it Spanish, which seems very important to them?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 21, 2020, 11:11:06 am
Would they ask Pedrosa to come back to keep it Spanish, which seems very important to them?

He works for KTM now
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 21, 2020, 11:12:33 am
Would they ask Pedrosa to come back to keep it Spanish, which seems very important to them?

He works for KTM now
I've read that, but only as what? Test rider?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 21, 2020, 11:25:22 am
Would they ask Pedrosa to come back to keep it Spanish, which seems very important to them?

He works for KTM now
I've read that, but only as what? Test rider?
Yip, test rider, was offered a race seat by KTM and he said NO THANX
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 21, 2020, 11:28:07 am
Doubt if the combination of sheer aggression, wicked talent and skills and a mighty quick ( difficult to race hard ) Honda alone, will be sufficient tools for MM to step up again in the following weeks.Agree with others that the pounding his body is taking with the heavy crashes will get to him physically and psychologically.Its not dissimilar to a golden boy prize fighter, who is heavily contracted to wipe opponents out and then lets his chin out for a fraction of a second and get KO'd by a beginner opponent......it sits in the memory, no matter who you are  ;) His HRC bosses are surely very pissed with the ou, because there is no stand in for their very expensive seat for coming weekend's race.Only little brother for now  :o   

They had their test rider on the plane on Sunday already.

Saw that, but he isn't a mover and shaker  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 21, 2020, 12:54:13 pm
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/21/brad-binder-motogp-rider-of-the-weekend-at-the-spanish-gp/334534?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=BradBinder%3AMotoGP%E2%84%A2rideroftheweekendattheSpanishGP%3F&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1X3NiqNKVfCmy_exRSEZsOpqdGKs-aI_IvrR1_xtrJLcSENks7vgkJeYs

Motopg.com suggesting Brad could be the rider of the week end. Nice read if you are a Binder fan
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 21, 2020, 01:23:42 pm
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/21/brad-binder-motogp-rider-of-the-weekend-at-the-spanish-gp/334534?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=BradBinder%3AMotoGP%E2%84%A2rideroftheweekendattheSpanishGP%3F&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1X3NiqNKVfCmy_exRSEZsOpqdGKs-aI_IvrR1_xtrJLcSENks7vgkJeYs

Motopg.com suggesting Brad could be the rider of the week end. Nice read if you are a Binder fan

Nice plug - a pity the commentators essentially forgot to mention him after he fell to the back of the field and no footage of his overshoot. That said I guess they did not mention AM even once  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 21, 2020, 01:28:17 pm
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/21/brad-binder-motogp-rider-of-the-weekend-at-the-spanish-gp/334534?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=BradBinder%3AMotoGP%E2%84%A2rideroftheweekendattheSpanishGP%3F&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR1X3NiqNKVfCmy_exRSEZsOpqdGKs-aI_IvrR1_xtrJLcSENks7vgkJeYs

Motopg.com suggesting Brad could be the rider of the week end. Nice read if you are a Binder fan

Nice plug - a pity the commentators essentially forgot to mention him after he fell to the back of the field and no footage of his overshoot. That said I guess they did not mention AM even once  :imaposer:
All they showed was MM fighting back, hardly anything at the front or back. I really wished BB could have hung on in 7th or improve. Would have done wonders for his head.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 21, 2020, 01:29:41 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 21, 2020, 01:35:59 pm
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So true  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 21, 2020, 07:19:50 pm
They must sommer give his bike to Johann Zarco. He is the one guy I feel could have done much better in his career.

Funny enough, the talk around the paddock is that BB is the one guy who can/would ride HRC bike aggressively enough to get the best out of it...

My thoughts from last year.  BB on a Honda...  jeez

To reiterate, MM is the best rider by a long shot I saw in my lifetime.  He is just in a different league altogether.  BB in my mind is the nearest in style to him, maybe slightly less raw talent but with a more calculating mind.  Both can lead from the start and set the pace, both can dogfight and be aggressive, both can chase through the pack.

You reiterate wrong. Valentino was in a different league altogether. Valentino dusted off heroes like Stoner before breakfast, and he did this while crashing far less than MM.

Remember that, while MM is undeniably fast, every one of the much rejoiced front end saves is actually a front end lost to start with.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on July 21, 2020, 07:49:38 pm
MM news radial nerve not damaged
https://www.timeslive.co.za/motoring/motorsport/2020-07-21-marc-marquez-aiming-for-august-return-after-successful-surgery/

Let see if he makes it back in August
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 22, 2020, 09:03:58 am
Tonight at 19h30 Rob from Ridefast will be interviewing Brad on their facebook page. I have watched their previous interviews with him and what he has to say is very interesting.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on July 22, 2020, 10:09:27 am
Danie I'm sure you would have heaped much more praise on old MM if he rode a Yamaha  >:D
Rossi's biggest mistake was going to Ducati, it was a setback for him, if he stayed at Honda or Yamaha he would have has another title or two me thinks.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 22, 2020, 10:29:24 am
Danie I'm sure you would have heaped much more praise on old MM if he rode a Yamaha  >:D
Rossi's biggest mistake was going to Ducati, it was a setback for him, if he stayed at Honda or Yamaha he would have has another title or two me thinks.
Vir seker. +1000
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 22, 2020, 01:23:50 pm
"An operation on Marc Márquez’s fractured arm has been completed successfully, allowing the eight-time champion to target a return to the track for the third MotoGP round of the season in Brno.

Honda announced that the surgery, which involved fixing a titanium plate to the rider’s right humerus, is complete and that there was no damage to his radial nerve, which controls wrist and finger movement.

Ahead of the operation, MotoGP’s traumatology specialist, Dr Xavier Mir, who is treating Márquez, said that the rider could be back in action in time for the Czech race on 9 August if there was no nerve damage."
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 22, 2020, 01:26:42 pm
Danie I'm sure you would have heaped much more praise on old MM if he rode a Yamaha  >:D
Rossi's biggest mistake was going to Ducati, it was a setback for him, if he stayed at Honda or Yamaha he would have has another title or two me thinks.

 :thumleft: :thumleft: I completely agree, Ducati ruined Rossi.

I have a lot of praise for MM. It's just his losing the front wheel all the time that's becoming a bit stupid. Sort the problem out. Last Sunday's front wheel save cost him too dearly.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 22, 2020, 01:38:13 pm
Ducati ruined Rossi.

Weird that some riders gel with a Ducatti and others don't at all.
Stoner gelled for sure, pity he stopped too soon. :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 22, 2020, 01:45:27 pm
"An operation on Marc Márquez’s fractured arm has been completed successfully, allowing the eight-time champion to target a return to the track for the third MotoGP round of the season in Brno.

Honda announced that the surgery, which involved fixing a titanium plate to the rider’s right humerus, is complete and that there was no damage to his radial nerve, which controls wrist and finger movement.

Ahead of the operation, MotoGP’s traumatology specialist, Dr Xavier Mir, who is treating Márquez, said that the rider could be back in action in time for the Czech race on 9 August if there was no nerve damage."

There you go .................what did I say a few pages back?

"They are not us, remember that .......................................... MM will skip a race and win the next.

You know it, I know it and he has already planned it."

All he has to do is win at Brno to prove me a true visionary ................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 22, 2020, 02:23:01 pm
"An operation on Marc Márquez’s fractured arm has been completed successfully, allowing the eight-time champion to target a return to the track for the third MotoGP round of the season in Brno.

Honda announced that the surgery, which involved fixing a titanium plate to the rider’s right humerus, is complete and that there was no damage to his radial nerve, which controls wrist and finger movement.

Ahead of the operation, MotoGP’s traumatology specialist, Dr Xavier Mir, who is treating Márquez, said that the rider could be back in action in time for the Czech race on 9 August if there was no nerve damage."

There you go .................what did I say a few pages back?

"They are not us, remember that .......................................... MM will skip a race and win the next.

You know it, I know it and he has already planned it."

All he has to do is win at Brno to prove me a true visionary ................  :biggrin:

true that....
Technology, medicine and science have improved drastically too. Not too mention the sport.
Gone are the days when you had a drinking night out with your buds before a race, and dragged on a  Gauloises on the starting grid.
The characters are all gone, replaced with these aliens... :ricky:
I will never use the phrase "Humor me" again, seeing what can happen to a humerus....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 22, 2020, 08:51:26 pm
Ducati ruined Rossi.

Weird that some riders gel with a Ducatti and others don't at all.
Stoner gelled for sure, pity he stopped too soon. :(

Why do you think he stopped too soon? :pot: D.u.c.a.t.i. :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 23, 2020, 07:57:06 am
So if Marques comes back very soon he will be riding without his humerus having healed completely. It takes many weeks for bone to regrow. Unless you're on some wonder drug or something. Anyway, so he'll be depending on the plates and pins to hold things together and in place. All good and well, you get full functionality.

But another fall in his return race is going to be way more catastrophic. Well, another one that involves his humerus, at least.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 08:44:10 am
So if Marques comes back very soon he will be riding without his humerus having healed completely. It takes many weeks for bone to regrow. Unless you're on some wonder drug or something. Anyway, so he'll be depending on the plates and pins to hold things together and in place. All good and well, you get full functionality.

But another fall in his return race is going to be way more catastrophic. Well, another one that involves his humerus, at least.

This i a big reasonwhy they are seen to "heal" quicker than other people, the fact that they can ride with non-healed bones, thus carrying the risk.

A world champion canoeist or wrestler do not have that option.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 23, 2020, 09:47:11 am
Brusied ego or possible amutated arm - seems like a no brainer.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 23, 2020, 09:58:24 am
Rossi’s biggest mistake is not knowing when to quit

Danie, Rossi raced Biaggi, MM raced Rossi. Enough said.  MM is in a class no one else is or was in during the past 30-40 years.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 10:08:12 am
Rossi’s biggest mistake is not knowing when to quit

Danie, Rossi raced Biaggi, MM raced Rossi. Enough said.  MM is in a class no one else is or was in during the past 30-40 years.

I am a much better racer than Jim Redman, as I will go around Killarney faster than he can, even if he would have lapped me 30 years ago. :imaposer:

MM can only ever claim best racer ever if he raced Rossi is the latter's prime, where MM is now.

GP racing, like everething else, is a revolutionary process. Sheene's lot never leaned off the bike, Roberts had to come along and start that.

Jean-Phillipe "the elbow cometh" Ruggia was one of the first to touch his arm on the tar, now it is almost common-place.

At this point in time, old man Rossi cannot be a match for MM, it would be against the natural laws of racing, but MM is no better than VR was in his prime, relatively speaking.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 23, 2020, 10:18:00 am
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 23, 2020, 10:35:22 am
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.
Ek weet nie hoeveel races gaan vanjaar wees, ma sê nou Rossi wen?!! ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 23, 2020, 10:43:20 am
IMO Rossi is going to be like Pedrosa.. he is going to hang around until its clearly evident that he cannot compete anymore.

I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on July 23, 2020, 10:45:04 am
IMO Rossi is going to be like Pedrosa.. he is going to hang around until its clearly evident that he cannot compete anymore.

I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.
The problem is DORNA, they need him for the crowds/ sponsor's and just that bit of niggle to keep the spice going in racing, so it doesn't become a somber affair like F1.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 23, 2020, 10:46:46 am
I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.

+100 and compete in Rally Cross.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 23, 2020, 10:51:16 am
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Malmoer on July 23, 2020, 11:02:18 am
Ducati ruined Rossi.

Weird that some riders gel with a Ducatti and others don't at all.
Stoner gelled for sure, pity he stopped too soon. :(

Ja nee sy vrou het geprt. Ek dink sysiekte was net n verskooning :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 23, 2020, 11:03:15 am
So if Marques comes back very soon he will be riding without his humerus having healed completely. It takes many weeks for bone to regrow. Unless you're on some wonder drug or something. Anyway, so he'll be depending on the plates and pins to hold things together and in place. All good and well, you get full functionality.

But another fall in his return race is going to be way more catastrophic. Well, another one that involves his humerus, at least.

Darryn said it so well in his interview with Ron and Donovan on the Ridefast show.  "There is a fine line between being a hero and an idiot".  Marques would not be a hero if he raced this weekend.  The risk over reward ratio is just not right.

I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.


I agree and my guess is:

- 1 year riding for Petronas.
- The Petronas team them becomes Petronas VR46 team.
- Rossi retired, but more involved in running the 3 VR46 teams.

Something I noticed this past weekend.  There is a small sponsor name on both the Sky VR46 Moto3 and Sky VR46 Moto2 bikes.  They are WithU Energy.  That same sponsor name is on the Petronas MotoGP bike. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 23, 2020, 11:09:33 am
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 23, 2020, 03:13:56 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 23, 2020, 03:17:48 pm
Yes, alien much.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 23, 2020, 03:20:04 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 23, 2020, 03:23:50 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

Can't mend the ego that demands the racetrack.  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 04:47:49 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 04:49:25 pm
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.

Docile era. :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: Stoner did not think so. "I have been racing since the age of four and I have not seen this aggression, bla bla bla.

After Laguna. :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 04:52:12 pm
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.

Pedrosa, with no MotoGP titles, and Valentino can never be mentioned in even vague comparison.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 23, 2020, 04:54:28 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.
I think so too.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on July 23, 2020, 04:55:48 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.

But they did require "the latest version titanium plate and screws".  These are Alberto Puig's words, not mine.  I hope MM is not going to regret riding as I look forward to some more of his amazing performances.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on July 23, 2020, 04:57:08 pm
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.

Docile era. :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: Stoner did not think so. "I have been racing since the age of four and I have not seen this aggression, bla bla bla.

After Laguna. :imaposer:

Sure, sure.  I hope that when he is 4 his riding buddies did not pull a Rossi Lagauna type move.  That is not right for the playground.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: punisher on July 23, 2020, 05:30:03 pm
seems to me ........ Rossi's biggest mistake is ....... not to have you okes as his advisor or coach  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 23, 2020, 06:52:15 pm
Those guys are all in another league , even the guy finishing stone last . Amsterdam and myself did a couple of races together , at the one national we were watching the 250GP race and looking at the lap times we were blown away by how much faster they were than any of us could even dream of going . And international racing is at a much higher level .
Rossi will always be one of the best , championships in 125 , 250 and 500 as well as Moto GP , MM as good as he is can never add a 500 trophy to his collection . I personally do not think MM would have done so well in that class , 130kg , 200+ hp and NO rider aids like the modern bikes have , smoothness and finesse was required and they did not take prisoners at all .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 08:09:51 pm
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.

Docile era. :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: Stoner did not think so. "I have been racing since the age of four and I have not seen this aggression, bla bla bla.

After Laguna. :imaposer:

Sure, sure.  I hope that when he is 4 his riding buddies did not pull a Rossi Lagauna type move.  That is not right for the playground.

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 08:11:47 pm
Those guys are all in another league , even the guy finishing stone last . Amsterdam and myself did a couple of races together , at the one national we were watching the 250GP race and looking at the lap times we were blown away by how much faster they were than any of us could even dream of going . And international racing is at a much higher level .
Rossi will always be one of the best , championships in 125 , 250 and 500 as well as Moto GP , MM as good as he is can never add a 500 trophy to his collection . I personally do not think MM would have done so well in that class , 130kg , 200+ hp and NO rider aids like the modern bikes have , smoothness and finesse was required and they did not take prisoners at all .

500cc strokers.......Kilroy's "docile" class. :imaposer:

In fact, if MM cannot even avoid a highside on a 1000cc 4stroke, what chance would he have had on a NSR?? Fokkol.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 23, 2020, 08:19:48 pm
Too true , a 4 stroke1000  with traction control is not close to the fear factor of an NSR500 , even the Big Bang model . I look at the Moto GP riders and they just pin the throttle , do that on a 500 and it will highside the rider into a lunar orbit .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 23, 2020, 09:38:37 pm
I'd love to see these guys' lap times on an old school 2 stroke.  for me, that was what defined a good rider, being able to tame the beast and be fast.

good luck to MM this weekend.  I have no doubt that he can pitch up and get a podium at least.  hope our boy BB learned from last weekend and gets a top 5!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 24, 2020, 09:31:27 am
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.

I have seen a x-ray posted on a reputable MotoGP site, so possibly not fake. The humerus is broken and the two ends were about 2cm apart.  Obviously no nerve damage, but I am not sure he should be allowed to race. 

It seems the current plan is that he will sit out FP1 and FP2 today.  Then start riding tomorrow.  This means he will be in Q1 and need to try for Q2.  Knowing him he will go balls to the wall to get into Q2 and then, even faster in Q2 to get a decent grid position.  I sincerely hope this does not backfire on him. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 24, 2020, 10:02:28 am

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I have seen a x-ray posted on a reputable MotoGP site, so possibly not fake. The humerus is broken and the two ends were about 2cm apart.  Obviously no nerve damage, but I am not sure he should be allowed to race. 

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That is a generic Googlen search humerus break x-ray (humerous  :biggrin:) that has just become click-bait. It was stated from the outset that the initial x-rays showed a break but not clean seperation. My guess is it was more of a green-stick break hence his present optiistic position and ego with knee down. :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 24, 2020, 10:14:03 am


I have seen a x-ray posted on a reputable MotoGP site, so possibly not fake. The humerus is broken and the two ends were about 2cm apart.  Obviously no nerve damage, but I am not sure he should be allowed to race. 

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That is a generic Googlen search humerus break x-ray (humerous  :biggrin:) that has just become click-bait. It was stated from the outset that the initial x-rays showed a break but not clean seperation. My guess is it was more of a green-stick break hence his present optiistic position and ego with knee down. :imaposer:
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Ah.  Okay, thanks.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 24, 2020, 10:41:09 am
FP1 done.

Maverick
Rossi
Brad
Morbidelli
Pol Espargaro
Oliviera
Jack
Nakagami
A Espargaro
Dovi

MM93 did not participate.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 24, 2020, 10:41:40 am
Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

Not said the bikes were docile, i said Rossi’s competition was.  Motogp is now more exciting than ever. Most races have bundles of dogfights instead of the occasional one in the old days.  Its edge of yourcseat stuff every race.  Its great...relish in it instead of reminiscing about kak racing laced with 2stroke fumes.   ;D

Btw, i was a Wayne Gardner man...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 24, 2020, 10:48:47 am
Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

No idea.  A horse at 2km/h scares me.  You?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: HappyEnding on July 24, 2020, 11:02:19 am
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 24, 2020, 12:36:49 pm
Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

Not said the bikes were docile, i said Rossi’s competition was.  Motogp is now more exciting than ever. Most races have bundles of dogfights instead of the occasional one in the old days.  Its edge of yourcseat stuff every race.  Its great...relish in it instead of reminiscing about kak racing laced with 2stroke fumes.   ;D

Btw, i was a Wayne Gardner man...

Indeed. The Gardner/Schwantz/Roberts Sr/Rainey/Biaggi era, kak racing with 2stroke fumes indeed. :imaposer:

Hardly ever a dogfight on the IOM, kak racing too?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 24, 2020, 12:48:05 pm
Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

Not said the bikes were docile, i said Rossi’s competition was.  Motogp is now more exciting than ever. Most races have bundles of dogfights instead of the occasional one in the old days.  Its edge of yourcseat stuff every race.  Its great...relish in it instead of reminiscing about kak racing laced with 2stroke fumes.   ;D

Btw, i was a Wayne Gardner man...

Indeed. The Gardner/Schwantz/Roberts Sr/Rainey/Biaggi era, kak racing with 2stroke fumes indeed. :imaposer:

Hardly ever a dogfight on the IOM, kak racing too?

You forgot about Doohan , Lawson , Abe , Spencer , Sarron and a good selection of others
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: punisher on July 24, 2020, 12:51:00 pm
hardly ever a dogfight  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:


yeah , but plenty of fisticuffs , shoving and all round hard racing
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 24, 2020, 03:08:29 pm
Well BB is third fastest in combined FP times  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Clockwork Orange on July 24, 2020, 04:31:34 pm
FP1 done.

Maverick
Rossi
Brad
Morbidelli
Pol Espargaro
Oliviera
Jack
Nakagami
A Espargaro
Dovi

MM93 did not participate.

Not looking very rosy for Honda based on these results
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 24, 2020, 08:01:26 pm
Honda looked better in FP2. Nakagami creamed it to #1. BB seemed to play a clever hand and did not cook it too much in the heat of the afternoon FP2 having got an excellent time in FP1 and even though ending up 11th retained his number 3 combined timeslot. Looking good  :thumleft: FP3 tomorrow morning will be a must watch.

Top 10 combined:
1. Maverick Viñales (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) – 1:37.063
2. Valentino Rossi (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) + 0.142
3. Brad Binder (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.307
4. Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) + 0.353
5. Pol Espargaro (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.379
6. Miguel Oliveira (Red Bull KTM Tech 3) + 0.429
7. Jack Miller (Pramac Racing) + 0.503
8. Takaaki Nakagami (LCR Honda Idemitsu) + 0.529
9. Aleix Espargaro (Aprilia Racing Team Gresini) + 0.672
10. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati Team) + 0.676
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 24, 2020, 08:24:59 pm
Here you go - Brad confirming the FP strategy.

https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2020/07/24/binder-our-bike-works-well-in-the-heat/335118?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=AND_bindervideo_en&utm_campaign=Traffic&j=288638&sfmc_sub=36808727&l=97_HTML&u=21512188&mid=100010274&jb=835
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 24, 2020, 08:31:00 pm
Honda looked better in FP2. Nakagami creamed it to #1. BB seemed to play a clever hand and did not cook it too much in the heat of the afternoon FP2 having got an excellent time in FP1 and even though ending up 11th retained his number 3 combined timeslot. Looking good  :thumleft: FP3 tomorrow morning will be a must watch.

Top 10 combined:
1. Maverick Viñales (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) – 1:37.063
2. Valentino Rossi (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) + 0.142
3. Brad Binder (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.307
4. Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) + 0.353
5. Pol Espargaro (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.379
6. Miguel Oliveira (Red Bull KTM Tech 3) + 0.429
7. Jack Miller (Pramac Racing) + 0.503
8. Takaaki Nakagami (LCR Honda Idemitsu) + 0.529
9. Aleix Espargaro (Aprilia Racing Team Gresini) + 0.672
10. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati Team) + 0.676

Are you sure about Rossi at no.2?  That's pretty high up. :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 24, 2020, 09:39:53 pm
Honda looked better in FP2. Nakagami creamed it to #1. BB seemed to play a clever hand and did not cook it too much in the heat of the afternoon FP2 having got an excellent time in FP1 and even though ending up 11th retained his number 3 combined timeslot. Looking good  :thumleft: FP3 tomorrow morning will be a must watch.

Top 10 combined:
1. Maverick Viñales (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) – 1:37.063
2. Valentino Rossi (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) + 0.142
3. Brad Binder (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.307
4. Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) + 0.353
5. Pol Espargaro (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.379
6. Miguel Oliveira (Red Bull KTM Tech 3) + 0.429
7. Jack Miller (Pramac Racing) + 0.503
8. Takaaki Nakagami (LCR Honda Idemitsu) + 0.529
9. Aleix Espargaro (Aprilia Racing Team Gresini) + 0.672
10. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati Team) + 0.676

Are you sure about Rossi at no.2?  That's pretty high up. :pot:

Nah can’t be. The old boy must be at the back of the pack according to some experts on here. Just enjoy the racing fellas and let’s all get behind BB. I reckon he’s gonna have a cracking season.

Can’t wait for qualifying tomorrow!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on July 25, 2020, 12:07:08 pm
Brad 7th fastest and into Q2. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 25, 2020, 01:24:07 pm
It's a pity, I was hoping to see him in 2 qualifying sessions, followed by a podium tomorrow.................  :biggrin:

I want my money's worth outta DSTV
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 25, 2020, 03:09:40 pm
So MM has pulled the plug. BB Q2 9th on the grid.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 25, 2020, 03:26:15 pm
Now with the "alien" pulled off ( which was always reality ) , let's enjoy tomorrow's racing  ;) Quartararo, Maverick, Bagnaia and a few others are right up there to battle it out.Brad did very well to practice place sub 10  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 25, 2020, 07:09:24 pm
sadly, for me, its not really a race without MM lining up and I'm not a fanboy.  You have to beat the best to be considered the best and he def looked the best last week when he was on 2 wheels!  Hope BB gets a podium!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 25, 2020, 09:29:33 pm
sadly, for me, its not really a race without MM lining up and I'm not a fanboy.  You have to beat the best to be considered the best and he def looked the best last week when he was on 2 wheels!  Hope BB gets a podium!!

When did he look his best last week?  Playing adventure bike in the gravel trap, or flying through the air? :pot:

Sorry not his best showings last week.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 26, 2020, 08:42:04 am
FP1 done.

Maverick
Rossi
Brad
Morbidelli
Pol Espargaro
Oliviera
Jack
Nakagami
A Espargaro
Dovi

MM93 did not participate.

Not looking very rosy for Honda based on these results

Indeed.  I am reminded of Ducati's Gigi saying that Honda, developing a bike for MM only will be f*cked if MM has to sit out a race or two.  Honda's Puig wet his pants (and that of his family) in anger about this statement.  The day had arrived where the fastest Honda on track is the 2019 spec bike, from the satellite team, in the hands of the #2 rider in said satellite team.  Then again, Puig seems like a bit of a poephol.  He is already saying the value of the championship will be diminished if MM misses too many races.  No Sir, a rather important part of being champion is not crashing and if a great rider crashes, miss races and then not become the champion, that championship is no less valuable than any other. 

Myself and others have also, frequently said that MM should take it a tad easier.  Every crash brings risk.  We then had to listen to various explanations as to why what we said is k@k.  One crash to many clearly shows the risk we were talking about.  I am extremely glad it isn't much worse and I sincerely hope, he has a learnt a lesson.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 26, 2020, 08:43:01 am
sadly, for me, its not really a race without MM lining up and I'm not a fanboy.  You have to beat the best to be considered the best and he def looked the best last week when he was on 2 wheels!  Hope BB gets a podium!!

When did he look his best last week?  Playing adventure bike in the gravel trap, or flying through the air? :pot:

Sorry not his best showings last week.
I would say the way he worked his way through the field from the back is what makes him worth watching. And given BB33's history of doing it too (albeit not in premier class) makes him a very exciting prospect for future champ.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 26, 2020, 08:48:36 am
sadly, for me, its not really a race without MM lining up and I'm not a fanboy.  You have to beat the best to be considered the best and he def looked the best last week when he was on 2 wheels!  Hope BB gets a podium!!

The best, also finishes races.  In this particular race, MM was not that.

Many riders, including MM, BB and VR have raced from behind to finish on the podium, or even win.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 26, 2020, 08:52:01 am
Cutting through the pack from 16th to 2nd in the fashion he did, speaks enough.  One of Those special moments in motogp? 

But today is not about MM.  he is out.  The Yamahas look good.  Both last years model and this year’s.  Its good to see :thumleft: 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 26, 2020, 09:01:25 am
Cutting through the pack from 16th to 2nd in the fashion he did, speaks enough.  One of Those special moments in motogp? 

But today is not about MM.  he is out.  The Yamahas look good.  Both last years model and this year’s.  Its good to see :thumleft:

Even last years Honda  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Welsh on July 26, 2020, 09:18:49 am
Cutting through the pack from 16th to 2nd in the fashion he did, speaks enough.  One of Those special moments in motogp? 

But today is not about MM.  he is out.  The Yamahas look good.  Both last years model and this year’s.  Its good to see :thumleft:

Even last years Honda  :imaposer:

I saw the Honda riders saying the 2020 turns worse than the 2019.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 26, 2020, 09:21:34 am
Not recommended for siblings
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on July 26, 2020, 10:16:09 am
Not recommended for siblings

Isn’t that just crazy , the fastest and slowest riders as teammates , the bikes are more than likely built around MM and his riding style which doesn’t work for anyone else .
I remember years ago one of the privateers was saying that person XYZ was winning world championships because he got all the best parts , at the end of the season said privateer was given the opportunity to ride the champions bike and he pronounced it unrideable , an absolute pig , but it worked for XYZ to take the championship  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 26, 2020, 10:35:21 am
Cutting through the pack from 16th to 2nd in the fashion he did, speaks enough.  One of Those special moments in motogp? 

But today is not about MM.  he is out.  The Yamahas look good.  Both last years model and this year’s.  Its good to see :thumleft:

He cut through the pack from 16th to DNF.  It was special till he crashed, but that was on the cards for at least a lap prior to the crash.  While special, coming from last and finishing on the podium, or even winning, now that is special.  A few riders have managed that, including MM.

I am not sure that there are full 2019 spec Yamahas on track this year.  I read somewhere that Fabio does have a factory bike and Morbidelli very close to a factory bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 26, 2020, 10:47:00 am
Its a disaster, the master is in plaster...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 26, 2020, 10:49:24 am
MM passing basically everyone on the track was special to watch, even if he did crash which was what i was referring to when i said he should keep it on two wheels.  He obviously fried his tyres in his haste to get back into the race but you cant say it wasnt special to watch. 

I'll be the first to agree that 'to finish first you must first finish' holds true but the race is always more special to watch with him there which makes the wins the other riders manage (Rins' last corner in win at Silverstone springs to mind) all the more special.

Hope the Yamahas and of course BB have a cracking race. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 26, 2020, 10:53:59 am
He passed everyone except BB and Q?  :biggrin:  Rossi got such a fright he nearly left the track  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 26, 2020, 11:03:03 am
He passed everyone except BB and Q?  :biggrin:  Rossi got such a fright he nearly left the track  :imaposer:

He didnt pass MV, he crashed when he was 3rd.

Anyway, lets hope DB can keep it on two wheels this weekend.  10 places gained in his first lap...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 26, 2020, 11:05:47 am
The dive bomber  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on July 26, 2020, 12:07:04 pm
25th to 4th!  Great race DB!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 26, 2020, 03:21:59 pm
FP1 done.

Maverick
Rossi
Brad
Morbidelli
Pol Espargaro
Oliviera
Jack
Nakagami
A Espargaro
Dovi

MM93 did not participate.

Not looking very rosy for Honda based on these results

Indeed.  I am reminded of Ducati's Gigi saying that Honda, developing a bike for MM only will be f*cked if MM has to sit out a race or two.  Honda's Puig wet his pants (and that of his family) in anger about this statement.  The day had arrived where the fastest Honda on track is the 2019 spec bike, from the satellite team, in the hands of the #2 rider in said satellite team.  Then again, Puig seems like a bit of a poephol.  He is already saying the value of the championship will be diminished if MM misses too many races.  No Sir, a rather important part of being champion is not crashing and if a great rider crashes, miss races and then not become the champion, that championship is no less valuable than any other. 

Myself and others have also, frequently said that MM should take it a tad easier.  Every crash brings risk.  We then had to listen to various explanations as to why what we said is k@k.  One crash to many clearly shows the risk we were talking about.  I am extremely glad it isn't much worse and I sincerely hope, he has a learnt a lesson.

Great post!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 26, 2020, 06:20:40 pm
Fark, what a massacre- should have just hung in there.

Well done VR.  Shown some balls and great riding lines.

Yamaha reliability??
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 26, 2020, 06:26:43 pm
Well done DB40!  That was the race we all want to see from you.  Keep that up and sort qualifying and we will see you on the podium regularly.

Ai Brad!  Bad luck dude.  Oh!  Don't go anywhere near Portugal.  It seems the Oliviera fans found you guilty of attempted murder!  :imaposer:

Oom VR!  Where did that come from?  Any truth in the rumour that you and Lin Jarvis finally managed to convince Yamaha to make a few changes to your bikes?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 26, 2020, 07:39:53 pm
Fark, what a massacre- should have just hung in there.

Well done VR.  Shown some balls and great riding lines.

Yamaha reliability??

Eish! Kan dalk nog `n moeilike seisoen raak vorentoe vir Yamaha...

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/26/are-yamaha-in-deep-engine-trouble/335940

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 26, 2020, 07:56:30 pm
Nice problem to have, though, trying to get all 4 bikes to finish first, instead of three .....................  ::)

Brad's learning, I hope, that these lot don't take prisoners. They are the most ruthless riders around, which is why they're racing the fast bikes. You need more than skill to hang out here.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 26, 2020, 08:22:09 pm
Fark, what a massacre- should have just hung in there.

Well done VR.  Shown some balls and great riding lines.

Yamaha reliability??

Eish! Kan dalk nog `n moeilike seisoen raak vorentoe vir Yamaha...

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/07/26/are-yamaha-in-deep-engine-trouble/335940

Yes, they have problems with their engines, so as comfort they took all 3 of today's podiums. I love YAMAHA.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 27, 2020, 08:27:18 am
Great racing  :thumleft:Quartararo......and then the rest ! Happy for Maverick and not for Bagnaia.Brad.......rookie error in turn one and vicsious hi - side, pushing too hard ( happy he's ok ).Happy for Rossi's podium and loved his a acknowledgment of the no - supporters cheers ( sarcastic intelligence  8) ).Roll on Chech Republic......but first some SBK this weekend 👏
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on July 27, 2020, 11:13:30 am
I was so looking forward to the MotoGP but that turned into a disappointment rather quickly and unfortunately the comeback failed.  But KTM overall looked very strong up until the race.  This is the first season that I have subscribed to the MotoGP live-streaming and watching the practices was already very exciting seeing BB do so well amongst the established crowd. 

And what about Alex Marquez?  He gets slagged off a lot but he did very well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 27, 2020, 01:05:35 pm
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.

Pedrosa, with no MotoGP titles, and Valentino can never be mentioned in even vague comparison.

Not everything is about titles

You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.

I was impressed by the satellite Ducati team.. some great racing.. 63 degree track temp,  :dousing: that is insane.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 27, 2020, 06:11:56 pm
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.

Pedrosa, with no MotoGP titles, and Valentino can never be mentioned in even vague comparison.

Not everything is about titles

You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.

I was impressed by the satellite Ducati team.. some great racing.. 63 degree track temp,  :dousing: that is insane.

If you're as good as your last race, then Joey Dunlop is forever a DNF?? :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on July 27, 2020, 07:45:53 pm
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.

Pedrosa, with no MotoGP titles, and Valentino can never be mentioned in even vague comparison.

Not everything is about titles

You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.

I was impressed by the satellite Ducati team.. some great racing.. 63 degree track temp,  :dousing: that is insane.

The question should rather be why did the 8 DNF ? Rossi did well, like him, don't like him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 27, 2020, 08:12:35 pm
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
Die finansiele wortel word deur Yamaha uitgehou, en 46 gryp graag daarna.
Dit raak pateties as Michelin vir jou se: Hou op moan oor ons tyres, al die ander ouens kom reg hiermee, so miskien is die fout by jou...

It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.

Pedrosa, with no MotoGP titles, and Valentino can never be mentioned in even vague comparison.

Not everything is about titles

You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.

I was impressed by the satellite Ducati team.. some great racing.. 63 degree track temp,  :dousing: that is insane.

Maybe you should go look at his qualifying times with those 8 competing  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on July 28, 2020, 05:51:12 am
Part of winning a race is not falling off your bike and crossing that finish line.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: facmp on July 28, 2020, 08:40:52 am
the sad truth is that Alex Marquez - who has been the slowest on the track for 2 weeks - is way ahead of BB on points. BB needs to chill a bit and ease into this thing...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 28, 2020, 12:23:38 pm
the sad truth is that Alex Marquez - who has been the slowest on the track for 2 weeks - is way ahead of BB on points. BB needs to chill a bit and ease into this thing...

Brad will be okay.  Yes, AM73 is currently leading rookie of the year, but it is early days.  We are only 2 races into a definite 13 (possibly 16) race series with BB33 just 9 points behind Alex. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 28, 2020, 12:25:41 pm
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 28, 2020, 03:30:43 pm
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 28, 2020, 07:46:32 pm
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.

I checked you out a long time ago, you are a troublemaker.
Now, back to the point.
At a certain age you start to benefit from a early Sondag middag slapie, seems to work well for the doctor... :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 28, 2020, 08:01:02 pm
Johnny Rea is back soon ................................... love watching him kick everyone's ass but he puts me to sleep faster than football.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 29, 2020, 09:47:23 am
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.

I checked you out a long time ago, you are a troublemaker.
Now, back to the point.
At a certain age you start to benefit from a early Sondag middag slapie, seems to work well for the doctor... :peepwall:

Literally everyone has an opinion on a team or a rider, the rivalry between teams and the competitiveness between them lends to this phenomenon.. some call it banter, some call it troublemaking, I suppose in order to keep the peace and not have any of that we should all wear shirts with every brand on them so everyone feels included and accepted.

Anyway, I was keeping things on subject with my comment about FB, so not sure what the fuss is..

 :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 29, 2020, 09:59:41 am
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.

What!?  Bloody hell, now I will have to call the hit men off.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 29, 2020, 10:01:37 am
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.

I checked you out a long time ago, you are a troublemaker.
Now, back to the point.
At a certain age you start to benefit from a early Sondag middag slapie, seems to work well for the doctor... :peepwall:

Literally everyone has an opinion on a team or a rider, the rivalry between teams and the competitiveness between them lends to this phenomenon.. some call it banter, some call it troublemaking, I suppose in order to keep the peace and not have any of that we should all wear shirts with every brand on them so everyone feels included and accepted.

Anyway, I was keeping things on subject with my comment about FB, so not sure what the fuss is..

 :3some:

The fuss, is the muss .....   ;) ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 29, 2020, 01:03:51 pm
Posted by MM93 on his Instagram account.  I believe the pins in his arms also spell: "EK IS F*KK*N MAL!"  in Spanish! 

(https://i1.wp.com/pandulaju.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/marc-marquez-xray-tulang-patah-bg.png?resize=360%2C200&ssl=1)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 29, 2020, 01:04:50 pm
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.

I checked you out a long time ago, you are a troublemaker.
Now, back to the point.
At a certain age you start to benefit from a early Sondag middag slapie, seems to work well for the doctor... :peepwall:

Literally everyone has an opinion on a team or a rider, the rivalry between teams and the competitiveness between them lends to this phenomenon.. some call it banter, some call it troublemaking, I suppose in order to keep the peace and not have any of that we should all wear shirts with every brand on them so everyone feels included and accepted.

Anyway, I was keeping things on subject with my comment about FB, so not sure what the fuss is..

 :3some:

 :thumleft: My reference to you being a troublemaker was also tongue in cheek.
I am all for a little stir up.
The day we stop laughing at ourselves or each other, will be a sad day indeed.
Super psyched up about a South African thrown into the Motogp whirlpool, and that on a Katoom nogal.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 29, 2020, 04:54:44 pm
Posted by MM93 on his Instagram account.  I believe the pins in his arms also spell: "EK IS F*KK*N MAL!"  in Spanish! 

(https://i1.wp.com/pandulaju.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/marc-marquez-xray-tulang-patah-bg.png?resize=360%2C200&ssl=1)

Ek het al Chihuahua's gesien met frisser gebeente.......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on July 29, 2020, 07:09:28 pm
Posted by MM93 on his Instagram account.  I believe the pins in his arms also spell: "EK IS F*KK*N MAL!"  in Spanish! 

(https://i1.wp.com/pandulaju.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/marc-marquez-xray-tulang-patah-bg.png?resize=360%2C200&ssl=1)

Ek het al Chihuahua's gesien met frisser gebeente.......

Ek ok, en paar worshondjies nogal. What is with these Spanish stoepkakkerktjies?  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 29, 2020, 09:19:49 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4:

"Spanish stoepkakkertjie".  :imaposer: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 29, 2020, 09:22:21 pm
That break doesn't make sense - why didn't they fit a nail in the centre? Way more stable than a one-sided plate with a gazillion holes drilled into the bone. Maybe a 2-sided plate would also work - I dunno, I'm only an electrician, but I have my ortho on speed-dial.

The muscle/flesh invasion to get all those screws in must be hurting big time, never mind the bone. Imagine getting stabbed by a knitting needle twenty times through your arm and you go racing a week later. Fuck!!!!

He's not Barry Sheene.....................................................  he should stay at home and take his vitamins and kale.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 29, 2020, 09:24:00 pm
That break doesn't make sense - why didn't they fit a nail in the centre? Way more stable than a one-sided plate with a gazillion holes drilled into the bone. Maybe a 2-sided plate would also work - I dunno, I'm only an electrician, but I have my ortho on speed-dial.

The muscle/flesh invasion to get all those screws in must be hurting big time, never mind the bone. Imagine getting stabbed by a knitting needle twenty times through your arm and you go racing a week later. Fuck!!!!

He's not Barry Sheene.....................................................  he should stay at home and take his vitamins and kale.

And that's not JJ Cale either...... :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 30, 2020, 06:31:06 am
I suspect the is not legit. The bone in the xray has multiple clean breaks. The other pic (MRI?) shows a singular twist-like break.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 30, 2020, 10:09:51 am
You are as good as the last race , if it takes 8 people to fall out of a GP in order for VR to get a podium again then I suppose the record book will show the master found his pace again.. not.


These 8 who fell off, they were all ahead of VR46 when they fell off? 
 

ahh its all tongue and cheek, it was just to get Rossi fanboys in a knot. That race was really tough and for anyone his age to finish was an achievement in fitness and stamina.  :peepwall:

I'm just happy to see MotoGP again, my Sunday afternoons have not been the same without it, with MM not racing I was all over how Francesco Bagnaia was riding.and its just a treat to watch the SA flag fly in GP so my family are all big BB fans.

I checked you out a long time ago, you are a troublemaker.
Now, back to the point.
At a certain age you start to benefit from a early Sondag middag slapie, seems to work well for the doctor... :peepwall:

Literally everyone has an opinion on a team or a rider, the rivalry between teams and the competitiveness between them lends to this phenomenon.. some call it banter, some call it troublemaking, I suppose in order to keep the peace and not have any of that we should all wear shirts with every brand on them so everyone feels included and accepted.

Anyway, I was keeping things on subject with my comment about FB, so not sure what the fuss is..

 :3some:

 :thumleft: My reference to you being a troublemaker was also tongue in cheek.
I am all for a little stir up.
The day we stop laughing at ourselves or each other, will be a sad day indeed.
Super psyched up about a South African thrown into the Motogp whirlpool, and that on a Katoom nogal.

Fair enough but in GP banter we play the ball not the player.

By the way, those MM supporters may have noticed a very radically different helmet he was wearing in the 1st race. I checked it out and it is a helmet he was wearing which will be auctioned off to raise funds to support CV-19 relief.
It's fantastic to see riders always giving back, I'm sure there are other riders out there doing similar things. If you have any riders you support who have these initiatives feel free to share them.

https://www.marcmarquez93.com/en/marc-marquez-will-wear-a-solidarity-helmet-at-the-jerez-gp/

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 30, 2020, 10:23:43 am
I suspect the is not legit. The bone in the xray has multiple clean breaks. The other pic (MRI?) shows a singular twist-like break.

The pic of the x-ray with the pins was posted by MM93 himself on his Instagram account.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on July 30, 2020, 10:25:08 am
Most do something or other to try help, itspart of their PR well being:
https://riders.drivemag.com/news/valentino-rossi-donates-to-help-hospitals-fight-coronavirus/
 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 30, 2020, 10:25:44 am
I suspect the is not legit. The bone in the xray has multiple clean breaks. The other pic (MRI?) shows a singular twist-like break.

The pic of the x-ray with the pins was posted by MM93 himself on his Instagram account.
I stand corrected then! :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 30, 2020, 10:29:24 am
By the way, those MM supporters may have noticed a very radically different helmet he was wearing in the 1st race. I checked it out and it is a helmet he was wearing which will be auctioned off to raise funds to support CV-19 relief.
It's fantastic to see riders always giving back, I'm sure there are other riders out there doing similar things. If you have any riders you support who have these initiatives feel free to share them.

https://www.marcmarquez93.com/en/marc-marquez-will-wear-a-solidarity-helmet-at-the-jerez-gp/

I saw that.  Good initiative.  AlexM did the same. 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on July 30, 2020, 10:40:54 am
I saw that and wondered why he was wearing a pink helmet :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on July 30, 2020, 07:46:16 pm
Coz he's a fast rider ................... not sure why his brother has one, though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 30, 2020, 08:29:34 pm
Coz he's a fast rider ................... not sure why his brother has one, though.

Well, to be fair and true,
his brother's is blue
and he is faster than you.   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 30, 2020, 08:30:33 pm
Fokkit. My X-rays lyk nooit so nie. Altyd sulke grys blurry goed wat n mens beswaarlik kan uitmaak, lyk meer soos n 2de wereld oorlogse aerial night time observation foto. :xxbah:

Selfs my dokter sukkel met my X-rays, hy het eenkeer die verkeerde arm in gips gehad.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 30, 2020, 08:39:32 pm
Fokkit. My X-rays lyk nooit so nie. Altyd sulke grys blurry goed wat n mens beswaarlik kan uitmaak, lyk meer soos n 2de wereld oorlogse aerial night time observation foto. :xxbah:

Selfs my dokter sukkel met my X-rays, hy het eenkeer die verkeerde arm in gips gehad.

Ja, maar jy is in Afrika.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on July 30, 2020, 08:43:01 pm
Kubaanse vroue dokters Danie?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on July 31, 2020, 06:09:13 am
Fokkit. My X-rays lyk nooit so nie. Altyd sulke grys blurry goed wat n mens beswaarlik kan uitmaak, lyk meer soos n 2de wereld oorlogse aerial night time observation foto. :xxbah:

Selfs my dokter sukkel met my X-rays, hy het eenkeer die verkeerde arm in gips gehad.
Sy eie, in plaas van die pasiënt s'n? :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gene on July 31, 2020, 07:32:22 am
Lyk of hy n tekort aan vit D (Sonlig) het, die wat die been so splinter, arme ou -Foeitog...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on July 31, 2020, 08:10:58 am
Anybody got 6 Bar lying around they don't need right now..................

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/sale-ktm-rc16-motogp-bike-%E2%80%93-new-one-carefulish-owner
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on July 31, 2020, 09:43:58 am
Anybody got 6 Bar lying around they don't need right now..................

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/sale-ktm-rc16-motogp-bike-%E2%80%93-new-one-carefulish-owner

As new.  Low kilometres.  Only used on weekends, mainly Sundays. One owner.  Full service history (OEM).  Never dropped (at low speeds).
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 31, 2020, 08:00:57 pm
Kubaanse vroue dokters Danie?

Nee, dit was die keer met my vagina uitslag. :pot: Infidel Castrol se nursies is rof.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on August 04, 2020, 04:14:18 am
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 04, 2020, 07:30:52 am
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on August 04, 2020, 07:35:12 am
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)

From what I read he did nothing wrong to contribute to it, my thoughts are they put in hardware that was 'lighter' than should have been to minimize the intrusiveness of the original procedure to allow a quicker recovery but that's just me reading between the lines and thumb-sucking a theory.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on August 04, 2020, 07:42:20 am
Read some about it:

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marc-marquez-misses-brno-injury/4849206/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 04, 2020, 07:48:15 am
Read some about it:

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marc-marquez-misses-brno-injury/4849206/

Shot  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 04, 2020, 08:30:29 am
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)

From what I read he did nothing wrong to contribute to it, my thoughts are they put in hardware that was 'lighter' than should have been to minimize the intrusiveness of the original procedure to allow a quicker recovery but that's just me reading between the lines and thumb-sucking a theory.

Nah, you're right, It's simple mechanics. The bone is broken and cannot be used for support, so they fit a plate. Technically, you can use your arm as normal as the plate is now your support. However, a crappy installation, wrong plate, whatever, will compromise this and any wrong move, even wiping your arse, will make things move or break. Back to square 1.

P.S. The wipe your arse thing was a joke, that's his mommy's job .......................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 04, 2020, 08:32:40 am
Marc will eventually learn, every crash carries a risk. :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 04, 2020, 09:49:59 am
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)

From what I read he did nothing wrong to contribute to it, my thoughts are they put in hardware that was 'lighter' than should have been to minimize the intrusiveness of the original procedure to allow a quicker recovery but that's just me reading between the lines and thumb-sucking a theory.

Janee.  Dr. Mir and team seems to place the "blame" on themselves for this mishap, taking all blame from MM, Honda and the governing body for declaring him fit to race. 

It is all balderdash of course.  Fact is, he should not have done hundreds op push ups, other strenuous exercise and attempt to rode a race bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 04, 2020, 09:50:44 am
Marc will eventually learn, every crash carries a risk. :3some:

If only he listened to me.   ;)

I guess he is not on Wilddogs .....   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 04, 2020, 09:54:44 am
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)
[/quote
From what I read he did nothing wrong to contribute to it, my thoughts are they put in hardware that was 'lighter' than should have been to minimize the intrusiveness of the original procedure to allow a quicker recovery but that's just me reading between the lines and thumb-sucking a theory.

Nah, you're right, It's simple mechanics. The bone is broken and cannot be used for support, so they fit a plate. Technically, you can use your arm as normal as the plate is now your support. However, a crappy installation, wrong plate, whatever, will compromise this and any wrong move, even wiping your arse, will make things move or break. Back to square 1.

P.S. The wipe your arse thing was a joke, that's his mommy's job .......................  :biggrin:

Forget the arse wipe - he did it all by himself. Over inflated ego and 28 laps of MotoGP sorted it out. He should know about collateral damage by now. 👺
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 04, 2020, 01:34:06 pm
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)
[/quote
From what I read he did nothing wrong to contribute to it, my thoughts are they put in hardware that was 'lighter' than should have been to minimize the intrusiveness of the original procedure to allow a quicker recovery but that's just me reading between the lines and thumb-sucking a theory.

Nah, you're right, It's simple mechanics. The bone is broken and cannot be used for support, so they fit a plate. Technically, you can use your arm as normal as the plate is now your support. However, a crappy installation, wrong plate, whatever, will compromise this and any wrong move, even wiping your arse, will make things move or break. Back to square 1.

P.S. The wipe your arse thing was a joke, that's his mommy's job .......................  :biggrin:

Forget the arse wipe - he did it all by himself. Over inflated ego and 28 laps of MotoGP sorted it out. He should know about collateral damage by now. 👺

Jip, Massive ego and hard reality perished the guy.......as most foresaw  ;) There is no medicine for sheer stupidity  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 04, 2020, 01:34:53 pm
Any bets on weather Stephan Bradl will beat Alex Marquez this weekend?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 04, 2020, 06:59:27 pm
Marquez went under the knife again yesterday to replace the titanium plate that bent due to overstress. He will spend 48 hours in hospital.

Seems the frantic eagerness to get back on track backlashed on the alien  ;)
[/quote
From what I read he did nothing wrong to contribute to it, my thoughts are they put in hardware that was 'lighter' than should have been to minimize the intrusiveness of the original procedure to allow a quicker recovery but that's just me reading between the lines and thumb-sucking a theory.

Nah, you're right, It's simple mechanics. The bone is broken and cannot be used for support, so they fit a plate. Technically, you can use your arm as normal as the plate is now your support. However, a crappy installation, wrong plate, whatever, will compromise this and any wrong move, even wiping your arse, will make things move or break. Back to square 1.

P.S. The wipe your arse thing was a joke, that's his mommy's job .......................  :biggrin:

Forget the arse wipe - he did it all by himself. Over inflated ego and 28 laps of MotoGP sorted it out. He should know about collateral damage by now. 👺

Jip, Massive ego and hard reality perished the guy.......as most foresaw  ;) There is no medicine for sheer stupidity  ::)

Stupidity, recklessness ....................... whatever you wanna call it. This boy is a racer, exactly what we want.

He's got balls, which makes him a man. His face needs a punch or two but his attitude is top notch.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 04, 2020, 07:42:44 pm
Still wondering about the balls ... maybe they have not dropped yet?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 05, 2020, 08:07:25 am
Still wondering about the balls ... maybe they have not dropped yet?  :peepwall:
Doubt it. Have you ever heard him speak?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 05, 2020, 10:13:47 am
MM definitely out for Brno this coming weekend, but most probably also for the first, maybe even the 2nd GP on the Red Bull Ring as we enter a period of three races in three weeks.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 05, 2020, 02:33:39 pm
MM definitely out for Brno this coming weekend, but most probably also for the first, maybe even the 2nd GP on the Red Bull Ring as we enter a period of three races in three weeks.

MM - here hold BB's beer  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 07, 2020, 10:47:37 am
So if Fabio wins on Sunday it will be the first time in 40 years that a Yamaha wins the 1st three races of a GP season - not since my old hero Kenny Roberts in 1980!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 07, 2020, 12:28:38 pm
oooh.. 1st sessions are in

Alex Marquez 1'58.579

Stephan Bradl 1'59.193
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 08, 2020, 10:47:00 am
How the heck is JZ (no Danie, not that one) fastest Ducati?

MM definitely out for Brno this coming weekend, but most probably also for the first, maybe even the 2nd GP on the Red Bull Ring as we enter a period of three races in three weeks.

MM - here hold BB's beer  :thumleft:

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 08, 2020, 05:07:42 pm
How the heck is JZ (no Danie, not that one) fastest Ducati?

MM definitely out for Brno this coming weekend, but most probably also for the first, maybe even the 2nd GP on the Red Bull Ring as we enter a period of three races in three weeks.

MM - here hold BB's beer  :thumleft:

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :thumleft:

And JZ on pole tomorrow , Fabulous took a tumble , PE and BB in 6th and 7th respectively
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 08, 2020, 05:52:17 pm
Yes Fabio's was a real simple tumble - dusted himself off, ran off and laughed it off.  :imaposer:  A really likeable lad - guess he was lucky looking at all the broken bones doing the rounds  ::)  I think we are in for a stonking race tomorrow - challenging track conditions and times so close.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 08, 2020, 06:07:38 pm
I'm so stoked with 33, if he keeps it together tomorrow, he can fight for his 1st podium
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 08, 2020, 10:03:48 pm
I'm so stoked with 33, if he keeps it together tomorrow, he can fight for his 1st podium

He must just start by collecting some points!  :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 09, 2020, 12:03:01 pm
I'm so stoked with 33, if he keeps it together tomorrow, he can fight for his 1st podium

He must just start by collecting some points!  :3some:

Jip.  Points are critical.  Podium a bonus.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 09, 2020, 02:39:20 pm
Well done Brad Binder! Nice Ride!! History Made!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 09, 2020, 02:40:55 pm
BB maiden MotoGP win!!!

Brad you boytjie :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: windswept on August 09, 2020, 02:41:45 pm
Well done Brad Binder! Nice Ride!! History Made!

Don't have tv, tell more please.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Serf on August 09, 2020, 02:42:50 pm
Great BB :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: windswept on August 09, 2020, 02:43:10 pm
Well done boykie. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on August 09, 2020, 02:45:21 pm
That was Bradical!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: CruiserSA on August 09, 2020, 02:45:59 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on August 09, 2020, 02:47:04 pm
What a ride by Brad. I can't get the smile off my face. My nerves are shot.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Tabasco on August 09, 2020, 02:47:09 pm
 :ricky: 33
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 09, 2020, 02:51:13 pm
Well done Brad Binder! Nice Ride!! History Made!

Don't have tv, tell more please.

Ok start, 5th I think into first corner. Then up to 3rd for about 12 laps with Pol Espargo behind him. Zarco takes out Pol, he gets a Long Lap penalty. Brad up to second and chasing Morbidelli down. Clearly smoother and more determined. To be fair, the Petronas Yam’s seem to have tyre issues. 6 laps to go takes the lead cleares off into the distance. Wins by 2.2 seconds AND they get the SA flag right way up on victory lap!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 09, 2020, 02:58:33 pm
Congratulations Brad!!!

Breaking a SA drought for GP winners.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 09, 2020, 02:59:39 pm
I can't think of a better feeling than getting congratulations from Valentino Rossi .............................. that's when you know ...................... you're the man!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 09, 2020, 03:03:39 pm
 :ricky: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 09, 2020, 03:31:51 pm
I'm so stoked with 33, if he keeps it together tomorrow, he can fight for his 1st podium
Not just a podium,  YEAAA
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 09, 2020, 03:37:10 pm
And he beat the rest by some margin
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on August 09, 2020, 03:50:40 pm
What a ballsy outside overtaking move by Brad with Espargaro  :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 09, 2020, 04:32:54 pm
... and then Max Verstappen wins the F1 race ... also # 33!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 09, 2020, 04:35:06 pm
I am so happy for BB. :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 09, 2020, 04:41:35 pm
I still can't stop smiling :ricky:

And an F1 with someone other than LH44 for a change! Well done, Max!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: husky on August 09, 2020, 04:44:26 pm
That was soooo tense and thank goodness for no reason. What a great result from a great young guy. Just a pity my lockdown stash is so depleted; maybe just as well; .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 09, 2020, 04:45:51 pm
Zarco takes out Pol,
That really was not deliberate, it looked as if Pol closed the gap and then they touched. I feel sad for Pol and KTM though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 09, 2020, 04:46:13 pm
 :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on August 09, 2020, 05:29:30 pm
I almost smashed my Brad Binder tin of Red Bull with some brannas today but decided to wait a bit untill he is crowned world champion.
 :ricky:
It will be from now on known as Binderwyn and coke or Binderwyn en Red Bull.

Barman gooi vir my n BRB
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on August 09, 2020, 05:40:37 pm
Hell yeah! What an epic ride!!
Brad jou fokken yster!!!!

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 09, 2020, 05:50:57 pm

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He must just start by collecting some points!  :3some:
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Jip.  Points are critical.  Podium a bonus.

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Got both and some  :thumleft: What a stonking race! BB King  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sprocketbek on August 09, 2020, 06:01:57 pm
And ironically, it was the Monster Energy GP  8)

Great for all the sponsors though  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 09, 2020, 06:59:36 pm
And next week KTM’s home race
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 09, 2020, 07:00:56 pm
Zarco takes out Pol,
That really was not deliberate, it looked as if Pol closed the gap and then they touched. I feel sad for Pol and KTM though.
Yes I cant see how Pol could have backed off mid corner, he was fully comitted
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 09, 2020, 07:14:09 pm
Pol ran wide and there's no way Zarco couldve seen him coming.  Pity though, it wouldve been awesome to see Pol and BB have a go.  I could hardly watch. Kept thinking he'd crash but so stoked he didnt. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 09, 2020, 07:33:56 pm
Ek hoor Brad se bike het nog inloop jets in. Volgende race gaan hulle daai groot main jets insit, en die ports n bietjie Dremel......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 09, 2020, 07:46:37 pm
Ek hoor Brad se bike het nog inloop jets in. Volgende race gaan hulle daai groot main jets insit, en die ports n bietjie Dremel......

And for that final boost they are fitting  a competition Cowley  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 09, 2020, 07:50:48 pm
Ek hoor Brad se bike het nog inloop jets in. Volgende race gaan hulle daai groot main jets insit, en die ports n bietjie Dremel......

And for that final boost they are fitting  a competition Cowley  :lol8:

In stove-enamel black, nogal. :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 09, 2020, 08:06:08 pm
And on page 33! :biggrin: :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: JustBendIt on August 09, 2020, 08:45:07 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 09, 2020, 10:06:13 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 09, 2020, 10:58:42 pm
Brilliant race by BB 33  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dustbiter on August 10, 2020, 09:13:53 am
That was a brilliant win by Brad Binder yesterday! :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

But why are some news media in South Africa mentioning this win as the first South African to win in MotoGP?

What about Paddy Driver, Alan North, Kork Balliongton and Jon Ekerold??

Or are they only referring to the "modern version of MotoGP"?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 10, 2020, 09:20:49 am
That was a brilliant win by Brad Binder yesterday! :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

But why are some news media in South Africa mentioning this win as the first South African to win in MotoGP?

What about Paddy Driver, Alan North, Kork Balliongton and Jon Ekerold??

Or are they only referring to the "modern version of MotoGP"?

"MotoGP" is the term used for modern 4stroke racing at the highest level in motorcycling. Before 2003 this class was called 500GP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: JonW on August 10, 2020, 09:29:28 am
Did Kork or Jon Ekerold ever win  a 500 GP?

As far as I know neither of them did, only won 250 and 350 races, never the 500cc premier class.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dustbiter on August 10, 2020, 09:37:00 am
Thanks, I stand corrected, they both only won on 250 and 350cc bikes, and so by the definition given by 2StrokeDan, they do not qualify. Even though they also rode 500cc bikes, but never won a race on them.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on August 10, 2020, 10:25:52 am
Thanks, I stand corrected, they both only won on 250 and 350cc bikes, and so by the definition given by 2StrokeDan, they do not qualify. Even though they also rode 500cc bikes, but never won a race on them.

A couple of Rhodesian's won the premier class as far as I know. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: husky on August 10, 2020, 01:01:14 pm
Thanks, I stand corrected, they both only won on 250 and 350cc bikes, and so by the definition given by 2StrokeDan, they do not qualify. Even though they also rode 500cc bikes, but never won a race on them.

A couple of Rhodesian's won the premier class as far as I know.

True, that old Redman oke did pretty well  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 10, 2020, 01:36:14 pm
Thanks, I stand corrected, they both only won on 250 and 350cc bikes, and so by the definition given by 2StrokeDan, they do not qualify. Even though they also rode 500cc bikes, but never won a race on them.

Kork Ballington won 250 and 350 titles for Kawasaki, and rode their KR500, but Kawasaki withdrew from 500's before the bike was competitive.

Jon Ekerold is the most amazing story of all, a privateer beating factory teams to win his titles.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 10, 2020, 02:23:20 pm
Don’t forget Ray Amm and Gary Hocking
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 10, 2020, 02:28:03 pm
Please explain to me why Zarco got penalized, to me it looked like he had the inside line and Pol tried to go around the outside and went into JZ
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 10, 2020, 02:47:40 pm
Please explain to me why Zarco got penalized, to me it looked like he had the inside line and Pol tried to go around the outside and went into JZ

Also think that JZ got penalised unfairly.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 10, 2020, 05:39:35 pm
Please explain to me why Zarco got penalized, to me it looked like he had the inside line and Pol tried to go around the outside and went into JZ
It was my thoughts aswell. If Pol kept his line JZ would have passed him in the inside. Yet Pol changed his line and the made contact. Wonder what their thoughts would be now after they both have looked at it umpteenth times?

https://the-race.com/motogp/ktm-vs-ducati-over-espargaro-and-zarcos-controversial-clash/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 10, 2020, 06:56:44 pm
The general concensus is definately that Zarco was unfairly penalised. He was unsighted and had the racing line. Pol squared off the corner having already started the event by running wide trying to chase BB  :o. Where did he think Zarco was going to go? The KTM crew mobbed Dorna who then made a bad call.  Zarco's long short lap was a stunner.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 10, 2020, 07:01:46 pm
The general concensus is definately that Zarco was unfairly penalised. He was unsighted and had the racing line. Pol squared off the corner having already started the event by running wide trying to chase BB  :o. Where did he think Zarco was going to go? The KTM crew mobbed Dorna who then made a bad call.  Zarco's long short lap was a stunner.  :thumleft:

And then Pol cries about this track's "long lap" which is a token penalty, in his opinion. ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 10, 2020, 07:12:10 pm
The general concensus is definately that Zarco was unfairly penalised. He was unsighted and had the racing line. Pol squared off the corner having already started the event by running wide trying to chase BB  :o. Where did he think Zarco was going to go? The KTM crew mobbed Dorna who then made a bad call.  Zarco's long short lap was a stunner.  :thumleft:

And then Pol cries about this track's "long lap" which is a token penalty, in his opinion. ::)

Did not see that comment. He needs to man up like BB and take responsibility for his mistake. Klaar. He will be the token penalty next year with Honda  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 10, 2020, 07:29:02 pm
Pol just angry that BB stole his thunder  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 10, 2020, 07:31:45 pm
Pol just angry that BB stole his thunder  >:D

Damned straight!! :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 10, 2020, 07:41:30 pm
As Zarco said...this is racing, not dancing :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 10, 2020, 07:46:13 pm
Pol Espargaro is miffed since he lost out to Zarco's legit move and his rookie team mate BB taking glory  ;) As the supposed senior in the KTM garage, things don't look too good for him after the first couple of races ! Also, his very generous HRC employer is seeing all this playing out and can't be too comfortable with their future racer's performance. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 10, 2020, 08:43:44 pm
As Zarco said...this is racing, not dancing :laughing4:

Ja, loved that chirp. It is not like he stepped on his foot ...  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dwerg on August 10, 2020, 09:06:30 pm
Commentators said there was hard words between Pol and Brad a couple of wees ago. Anyone knows what that was about?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on August 10, 2020, 09:14:06 pm
I thought it was between Brad and Oli after the 2nd jerrez race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 10, 2020, 09:22:52 pm
I thought it was between Brad and Oli after the 2nd jerrez race.

Yes that is what I understood as well. At least Brad had the balls to accept accountability and apologize for a fuckup.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rooikoos on August 10, 2020, 09:40:40 pm
I watched it again now, they definitely mention Binder and Olivera.

But you have to love the commentators words as he crossed the line: “KTM has a new king”

Awesome race by Brad, on one lap towards the end he had a big wobble coming out of a corner, and he just picked up the front wheel a bit and got on with it!


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dwerg on August 10, 2020, 09:44:09 pm
Thanks makes sense now
Title: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dwerg on August 10, 2020, 09:44:51 pm
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rooikoos on August 10, 2020, 09:48:32 pm
En eerste rookie wat wen in die premier class sedert Marc Marques in 2013 gewen het

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 11, 2020, 06:16:17 am
If Pol had stayed on, he was looking strong. I wonder how that would have turned out?

Certainly a double podium for KTM, but there might have been a good battle too.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 11, 2020, 06:44:40 am
If Pol had stayed on, he was looking strong. I wonder how that would have turned out?

Certainly a double podium for KTM, but there might have been a good battle too.
Yeah I hope they don't have an arrangement like Binder and Oli had in moto2, they should both be free to challenge each other.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: peteb on August 11, 2020, 06:53:31 am
If Pol had stayed on, he was looking strong. I wonder how that would have turned out?

Certainly a double podium for KTM, but there might have been a good battle too.
If Pol had got past Zarco and Morbidelli he would have had to ride out of his skin to catch Brad, who was turning fast lap times right until the end. I honestly don't think he would have had the tyres or the skill to do that. I think there's a bit of envy there, not least because Brad went round the outside to pass him in the beginning, which was quite a move.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 11, 2020, 06:54:21 am
Oli is also turning out to be a bit of a twatwaffle after BBs promotion from moto2?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dwerg on August 11, 2020, 07:24:09 am
And they’ll be teammates again next year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 11, 2020, 07:35:09 am
Oli is also turning out to be a bit of a twatwaffle after BBs promotion from moto2?
And all three races so far, but especially yesterdays's prove that his promotion to premier class was absolutely the right thing to do.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 11, 2020, 10:24:07 am
Cal Crutchlow is well know for his direct way of saying things.  He said that they all knew KTN had a bike capable of wining every week.  They lacked a rider of Brad's talent to do so.  I wonder if Pol is going to moer him anyday soon?  :lol8:

And they’ll be teammates again next year.

BB33 and MO88 are good friends.  I am sure they could have exchange some hot words after their incident, but MO's response to BB's apology on Tistter said it all because MO responded something like: "All good, I will get you under the brakes at Brno".

   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 11, 2020, 11:26:34 am
Cal Crutchlow is well know for his direct way of saying things.  He said that they all knew KTN had a bike capable of wining every week.  They lacked a rider of Brad's talent to do so.  I wonder if Pol is going to moer him anyday soon?  :lol8:

And they’ll be teammates again next year.

BB33 and MO88 are good friends.  I am sure they could have exchange some hot words after their incident, but MO's response to BB's apology on Tistter said it all because MO responded something like: "All good, I will get you under the brakes at Brno".



Well at least Oli has a sense of humour then  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: DouglasN on August 11, 2020, 11:50:20 am


I haven't seen it mentioned much, but Brad also had the fastest lap of the race.


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If Pol had stayed on, he was looking strong. I wonder how that would have turned out?

Certainly a double podium for KTM, but there might have been a good battle too.


If Pol had got past Zarco and Morbidelli he would have had to ride out of his skin to catch Brad, who was turning fast lap times right until the end. I honestly don't think he would have had the tyres or the skill to do that. I think there's a bit of envy there, not least because Brad went round the outside to pass him in the beginning, which was quite a move.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 11, 2020, 03:42:27 pm
Oli is also turning out to be a bit of a twatwaffle after BBs promotion from moto2?

On this level, when threatened, all these guys are arseholes. It is in the competitive nature.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on August 11, 2020, 06:37:47 pm
If Pol had stayed on, he was looking strong. I wonder how that would have turned out?

Certainly a double podium for KTM, but there might have been a good battle too.
If Pol had got past Zarco and Morbidelli he would have had to ride out of his skin to catch Brad, who was turning fast lap times right until the end. I honestly don't think he would have had the tyres or the skill to do that. I think there's a bit of envy there, not least because Brad went round the outside to pass him in the beginning, which was quite a move.

I saw that yet no one has commented on that afterwards, least of all Pol Espargo.  I wonder if that pissed him off so much that he pushed it bit more than he should have at that stage.  He was fast all weekend and from my couch it looked like he made a few mistakes after that move.  Good thing is that we don't have to wait long for the next event.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 11, 2020, 07:25:20 pm


I saw that yet no one has commented on that afterwards, least of all Pol Espargo.  I wonder if that pissed him off so much that he pushed it bit more than he should have at that stage.  He was fast all weekend and from my couch it looked like he made a few mistakes after that move.  Good thing is that we don't have to wait long for the next event.

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Definately - it played into the dynamic (there has been some comment on it) and why he was pushing and running wide. So the accident therefore actually started with Brad's overtake of Esparagus (Brads fault  :laughing4:). There are a couple of guys I think who will take strain now in the mental game - something Brad does not seem to suffer from.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 11, 2020, 07:51:53 pm
Listening to Leitner from KTM, they are giving a lot of praise to Pedrosa for his help in developing the bike to a point that it can win. He apparently was at the circuit testing earlier in the year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 11, 2020, 08:07:29 pm
Listening to Leitner from KTM, they are giving a lot of praise to Pedrosa for his help in developing the bike to a point that it can win. He apparently was at the circuit testing earlier in the year.

Racing at this level is very much a team effort , so yes I can relate to that
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 11, 2020, 09:00:48 pm
Brad does not even know exactly how many people are in his box - he reckons at least 60 on Sunday (this excludes the factory R&D guys etc). Ja, serious team effort.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 11, 2020, 09:46:41 pm
Brad does not even know exactly how many people are in his box - he reckons at least 60 on Sunday (this excludes the factory R&D guys etc). Ja, serious team effort.

It is like that with all the big teams , R & D is an ongoing business , KTM now know they have a competitive package , from now on it is just small refinements until they have a package that works at all circuits with minimal changes . It is however ongoing and never ends
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 11, 2020, 10:32:19 pm
as much as i am not a MM fan, this win would've meant a shitton more if he was in the race.  Knowing how BB doesn't back down to the challenge (he seems so nice when his helmet is off!) i can't wait to see them at it when both bikes are competitive.  Don't think MM hasn't noticed the new guy...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 12, 2020, 09:07:35 am
MM definately noticed BB last year as he fucked his brother up, and is on record of noting it.  :3some:  Obviously BB has not got his experience ... yet ... but I think he has other advantages - one being a correctly inflated ego, another being a generosity of spirit - this allows him to open windows of opportunity without breaking arms.  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 12, 2020, 10:09:39 am
last year as he fucked his brother up,
Alex M is battling so far this year in the new class.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2020, 11:43:18 am
Listening to Leitner from KTM, they are giving a lot of praise to Pedrosa for his help in developing the bike to a point that it can win. He apparently was at the circuit testing earlier in the year.

KTM is still on concessions and can therefore have private tests on GP circuits when the other manufacturers are not allowed to test.   KTM tested extensively at Brno a week before the GP and a day afterward.  I am not sure about the testing prior to the GP, but the testing the day after had Dani, Brad, Pol and Oli testing.

Dani does have a huge hand in the improvement of the bike, but I believe both Brad and Oli also brought some excellent advice to the party.  I think KTM is slowly but surely and perhaps a bit stealth like building the dream team.

When they appointed Dani as test rider, many loudly proclaimed what a crap idea that was.  He is too small.  He is an introvert.  He only knows Honda.  Even here, the idea was made out to be a crappy one.  Yet, here we are, singing his praises.  KTM management should also be praised.  The best test rider in the world, is useless if management is not hearing him.  KTM appointed him and took his inputs seriously.  Very seriously.

Then, there is Brad and Oli.  Both have now come from Red Bull Rookies Cup, via Moto3 and Moto2 as part of the KTM team and family.  When Zarco left, they could have signed anyone of a few riders.  They promoted Brad.  Now that Pol is leaving, they again could have signed anyone of a few riders.  They promoted Oliviera.  Clearly working with a plan.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: JonW on August 12, 2020, 01:11:09 pm
last year as he fucked his brother up,
Alex M is battling so far this year in the new class.

Alex M's 8th place two weeks ago wasn't too shabby
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2020, 01:24:52 pm
last year as he fucked his brother up,
Alex M is battling so far this year in the new class.

Alex M's 8th place two weeks ago wasn't too shabby

True that.  We are all pee'ing ourselves in excitement about Brad and rightly so, but Alex is not doing too bad for a rookie either.  He is on 13 points after three races.  Often, rookies will just hope to be in the points. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on August 12, 2020, 01:59:35 pm
A much more long winded take on the Pol / Zarco exchange than I would ever have written.  But interesting enough.  The old thing is where two fight, both have some blame.

https://www.racecenter.com.au/post/pol-or-zarco-who-s-to-blame?fbclid=IwAR08jMu7wotbFKMguSICHiPDfMHVD8n9aS-kss0mYK9lDQAVSBF2t32ssJ0

Pol or Zarco – Who’s to Blame?
Updated: 13 hours ago
A coming together like this always divides opinion. Viewpoints depend heavily on the perspective we look at them from i.e. a fan, competitor, team boss, race steward and of course riders themselves. So here is ours.

We’ll start off by saying yes these riders are supremely talented, we couldn’t ride as fast as them blah blah blah. Yes we know that.

However being extremely talented doesn’t excuse you from your brain. These are professional racers paid to deliver results and they are also extremely experienced by the time they reach the MotoGP class.


Image: Polarity Photo / KTM Factory Racing

Both played a Part

Anyone who follows MotoGP will have seen many similar incidents to this over the years, it’s a very common in double apex corners. The lead rider blows the first apex, runs wide, the following rider tries sneak up the inside and the 2 riders clash when they intersect the 2nd apex.

Turn 1 at Brno is similar in this way to turn 1 at Mugello and Dani Pedrossa Corner at Jerez (formerly Dry Sack). Even the last corner at Jerez.

These incidents happen all the time, especially in the junior classes.



So there is no doubt that once Pol had blown the first apex there was every chance the 2 were going to come together. With their years of experience both riders should have been very aware of that.

Technically speaking you can argue that Zarco was not quite far enough up the inside and had time to get out of the throttle before Pol came back in. Yet you could also argue Pol ran very wide in the first place and cut back to the race line quite aggressively, chopping across race lines is not cool any day of the week.

So ‘technically’ speaking we’d put the blame at 50/50 and if we were the stewards, we’d take that position. Both riders did nothing to avoid the potential accident and the potential for that accident was high and pretty obvious.

But this is MotoGP not lawn bowls (actually lawn bowls can get a bit feisty as well but you get the point). A bit of rubbing is racing and the riders would be criticised if they were too soft and just gave positions away. Us as fans actually encourage a bit of bar banging.

So let’s dig a bit deeper.


Who had more to Lose?

Now this is what really matters. Who had more to lose and who had the ‘stronger’ position. This is something every aspiring racer needs to understand and allow for.

Saying “he took me out” deliveries 0 points no matter how correct you are. While if we were stewards we’d go 50/50, from a team boss perspective it would be far from that.

Let’s start with Zarco, He was fighting for a podium but struggling to match the pace of the surprise packet KTM’s. He saw an opportunity, a gap opened up through no fault of his own so he went for it. It was probably a 60/40 chance but most importantly he was on the inside and far enough up the inside to have minimal risk of crashing himself if the 2 collided.

Sure it was a bit clumsy and aggressive but he had a stronger position than Pol. Furthermore, his performance through the long lap loop was mental and he finished on the podium. You might advise him to try get a little further up next time by opening the throttle a tiny bit more but you’d have to be ok with what he did if you were his team boss.
 
Pol on the other hand. Let’s first state we are massive fans of Pol, you just have to look to his sideways performance in qualifying at Valencia last year to appreciate this guy, he is a mega talent. However he also finds a way not deliver the results on race day too often.

Let's have a look at a few points:

· The KTM had race winning pace
· Pol was faster than Zarco
· Pol made the original mistake of running so wide. Not the first mistake he made in the lap leading up to the incident.
· Pol cut back to race line very aggressively
· Pol knew Zarco was right there, he had just passed him
· Pol should know that Zarco is a hard nut who never gives an inch.
· Here is the kicker, Pol was on the outside and as such had a much higher risk of crashing should they collide. This means he was in the much weaker position. A position he put himself in through his own mistake.

Unless Pol was 100% sure he was well enough in front of Zarco or anyone else on the inside he should not have cut back so aggressively, that was just dangerous. He was too wide mid turn just to come straight back to race line with no regard for the bikes around him.

KTM had the package for a 1-2 easily. In fact there was more than enough time for Pol to catch the impressive Binder.

If Pol did come back to the line a bit slower and more gently sure Zarco won the corner but it might have meant Pol won the race.

He might have ‘technically’ been in the right but you don’t find any trophies in the gravel trap.

The best of the best, the ones that have world championship blood in their veins are also cunning enough not to leave themselves as exposed as Pol did. They know whihch battles to fight and which ones to leave alone.

A MotoGP rider looking for results needs to have better race craft than that. Rather than chucking a little hissy fits they would be better focusing their attention on improving their race craft.

Sorry for Pol fans but that was a just dumb considering what was on the line. If I was his team boss he would hve received a boot up his rear end. So much investment from KTM into MotoGP, you shouldn't through potential results like that away.

Who knows maybe a bit of brain fade from seeing his rookie team mate disappearing.

The Penalty

Ooh and that penalty, do we think Zarco deserved it? Yes and for that matter if Pol didn’t crash we would have given the same long lap loop too. As we said, technically it was a 50/50.

Nothing wrong with having a go at opportunities like that but you must be prepared to cop a little bit of a penalty if you stuff it up. If Zarco got a little further up the inside, no penalty but he didn't.
 
That's our opinion, let us know yours.
 
Also let us know if Zarco deserves a 2nd trophy for how fast the took the long lap loop, that was sick!

How great is it to having race back!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 13, 2020, 11:12:53 am
Listening to Leitner from KTM, they are giving a lot of praise to Pedrosa for his help in developing the bike to a point that it can win. He apparently was at the circuit testing earlier in the year.

KTM is still on concessions and can therefore have private tests on GP circuits when the other manufacturers are not allowed to test.   KTM tested extensively at Brno a week before the GP and a day afterward.  I am not sure about the testing prior to the GP, but the testing the day after had Dani, Brad, Pol and Oli testing.

Dani does have a huge hand in the improvement of the bike, but I believe both Brad and Oli also brought some excellent advice to the party.  I think KTM is slowly but surely and perhaps a bit stealth like building the dream team.

When they appointed Dani as test rider, many loudly proclaimed what a crap idea that was.  He is too small.  He is an introvert.  He only knows Honda.  Even here, the idea was made out to be a crappy one.  Yet, here we are, singing his praises.  KTM management should also be praised.  The best test rider in the world, is useless if management is not hearing him.  KTM appointed him and took his inputs seriously.  Very seriously.

Then, there is Brad and Oli.  Both have now come from Red Bull Rookies Cup, via Moto3 and Moto2 as part of the KTM team and family.  When Zarco left, they could have signed anyone of a few riders.  They promoted Brad.  Now that Pol is leaving, they again could have signed anyone of a few riders.  They promoted Oliviera.  Clearly working with a plan.

You are so right about Pedrosa.. he couldnt move without getting beaten up by almost everyone, mainly because he was in the Honda team for way too long, its really good to hear some positive come out of his move.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on August 14, 2020, 03:09:46 pm
FP1

1   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   1'24.193s   16/19   311k
2   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (GP20)   +0.044s   20/23   314k
3   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.185s   21/23   309k
4   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.380s   22/23   310k
5   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.395s   21/23   307k
6   Johann Zarco   FRA   Reale Avintia (GP19)   +0.462s   19/21   309k
7   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +0.525s   22/23   307k
8   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP20)   +0.531s   21/22   307k
9   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.550s   22/24   306k
10   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.560s   22/23   307k
11   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.586s   21/22   306k
12   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Ducati Team (GP20)   +0.644s   17/19   309k
13   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.686s   22/24   303k
14   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +0.751s   21/22   308k
15   Iker Lecuona   SPA   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   +0.798s   20/22   307k
16   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)*   +0.812s   21/22   307k
17   Michele Pirro   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP20)   +0.959s   19/20   309k
18   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +0.972s   6/18   307k
19   Alex Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)*   +1.056s   9/22   309k
20   Bradley Smith   GBR   Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +1.104s   15/19   309k
21   Stefan Bradl   GER   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +1.178s   19/21   310k
22   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia (GP19)   +1.536s   20/22   303k
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 14, 2020, 03:57:47 pm
So it rained during FP2 and many of the big names didn't set a top 10 time, if it rains during FP3 tomorrow, Q1 could be very interesting.... BB33 didn't even set a time in FP2 :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on August 14, 2020, 05:36:56 pm
Heavy rains expected most of the weekend
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on August 14, 2020, 09:50:54 pm
Eish...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on August 15, 2020, 05:08:17 pm
So Dovi out of ducati for 2021. The only seat open at the moment is aprillia .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ben-57 on August 15, 2020, 05:30:39 pm
Gonna be SUPER GREAT again tomorrow.... Can Ducati uphold their history of wins here?   Don't think so.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on August 15, 2020, 05:45:42 pm
Pol Espargo has consistently been the quickest this weekend.  He has qualified well and he has something to prove.  But the weather forecast for tomorrow has a lot of rain and that may upend everything.  Looking forward to this though.  And who knows, maybe BB33 will find something for tomorrow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 15, 2020, 07:01:55 pm
BB is a Sunday racer.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 15, 2020, 07:17:37 pm
Pol Espargo has consistently been the quickest this weekend.  He has qualified well and he has something to prove.  But the weather forecast for tomorrow has a lot of rain and that may upend everything.  Looking forward to this though.  And who knows, maybe BB33 will find something for tomorrow.

When the flag drops the bull stops
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on August 16, 2020, 08:17:29 am
https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/08/15/motogp/rainey-world-championship-underrated-without-marquez-his-mistake-not-quartararos

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 16, 2020, 10:09:55 am
Does anyone have some photo's and info on the suspension system they are using for the launch but are starting to use during the race too once they're onto long straights?

The Yamaha's have two levers on the left side, one for the clutch, the other to suppress the suspension for the start. In the commentary yesterday and during warm-up today, they spoke of Qautararo moving his levels so that the suspension one is more easily accessible during the race and that Rossi was spotted doing the same this morning.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on August 16, 2020, 10:30:32 am
https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/08/15/motogp/rainey-world-championship-underrated-without-marquez-his-mistake-not-quartararos

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It has actually become better to watch without MM... :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on August 16, 2020, 10:56:45 am
Does anyone have some photo's and info on the suspension system they are using for the launch but are starting to use during the race too once they're onto long straights?

The Yamaha's have two levers on the left side, one for the clutch, the other to suppress the suspension for the start. In the commentary yesterday and during warm-up today, they spoke of Qautararo moving his levels so that the suspension one is more easily accessible during the race and that Rossi was spotted doing the same this morning.
Is it not the holeshot device?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.crash.net/motogp/feature/928432/1/science-behind-motogp-holeshot-device%3famp


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Antonie on August 16, 2020, 10:58:11 am
https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/08/15/motogp/rainey-world-championship-underrated-without-marquez-his-mistake-not-quartararos

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It has actually become better to watch without MM... :pot:
For sure. However, now that #33 is on the grid, it is as if the rest simply disappeared :peepwall:

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 16, 2020, 01:36:02 pm
What is a Kalex ? Old 125 / 250cc classses were much better imo. Motogp is exciting, interesting MM’s lap record from last year is half a second faster than yesterdays qualifying  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 16, 2020, 02:11:45 pm
Bliksem Rossi that was close !!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: pwt on August 16, 2020, 02:13:00 pm
KTM with Binder's teammate leading and Binder up to the 8th position, still early days
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 16, 2020, 02:19:34 pm
Holy Moly! I have never seen Rossi that rattled by an on-track incident. TG no one seriously injured. Can they change tyres under a red flag?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Serf on August 16, 2020, 02:20:30 pm
What an accident and luck for all of the riders!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: boland on August 16, 2020, 02:40:00 pm
Holy shit, that crash!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Serf on August 16, 2020, 03:01:25 pm
Well done BB #33!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 16, 2020, 03:04:17 pm
Well done BB #33!

17th to 4th great ride!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 16, 2020, 03:16:15 pm
Bliksem Rossi that was close !!!
I think he's going to sleep with his eyes open tonight!!!! :o :o
And it did not seem to rattle him much unlike Pol who got rattled big time by losing the lead he had. He has to learn to control his temper.
Well done BB. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 16, 2020, 03:28:37 pm
Bliksem Rossi that was close !!!
I think he's going to sleep with his eyes open tonight!!!! :o :o
And it did not seem to rattle him much unlike Pol who got rattled big time by losing the lead he had. He has to learn to control his temper.
Well done BB. :thumleft:
Yes Pol is a hot head of note ! Seems to throw his toys if things dont go his way
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on August 16, 2020, 04:42:53 pm
What a day of mad racing, next week it replays! :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 16, 2020, 04:51:52 pm
Some awesome action today! Well done, BB33, making us proud!  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Welsh on August 16, 2020, 05:04:41 pm
DB did well also 4th in Moto 3. 8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 16, 2020, 07:19:41 pm
Today Pol seemed to have done to Olly exactly what he did with Zarco last weekend, and nothing happened this time??

Jislaaik, Oupa Vaaltyn het amper vir BB33 gevang vandag. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Noneking on August 16, 2020, 07:22:05 pm
Today Pol seemed to have done to Olly exactly what he did with Zarco last weekend, and nothing happened this time??

Jislaaik, Oupa Vaaltyn het amper vir BB33 gevang vandag. :eek7:
Was seker die ander Pol op daai Yamaha..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 16, 2020, 07:25:28 pm
Today Pol seemed to have done to Olly exactly what he did with Zarco last weekend, and nothing happened this time??

Jislaaik, Oupa Vaaltyn het amper vir BB33 gevang vandag. :eek7:
Was seker die ander Pol op daai Yamaha..

Daai Yamaha pla jou, ne? :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Noneking on August 16, 2020, 07:28:02 pm
Today Pol seemed to have done to Olly exactly what he did with Zarco last weekend, and nothing happened this time??

Jislaaik, Oupa Vaaltyn het amper vir BB33 gevang vandag. :eek7:
Was seker die ander Pol op daai Yamaha..

Daai Yamaha pla jou, ne? :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :imaposer:
Nee wat, geniet die lighartige banter
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rooikoos on August 16, 2020, 07:38:13 pm
Dié crash kon darem baie erg uitgedraai het!

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Offshore on August 16, 2020, 07:51:09 pm
A very close shave.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on August 16, 2020, 07:52:13 pm
Milliseconds from being clobbered by one of two hurtling wrecks... :eek7:

Our Spanish post doc said... Rossi is born again after that! :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: XT JOE on August 16, 2020, 07:59:42 pm
Wow that was close, well done BB

https://youtu.be/JFaqXoD9j8w
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: MellowJo on August 16, 2020, 08:10:31 pm
Well done BB #33!

17th to 4th great ride!

 :thumleft:

Glad all is OK after the crash
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on August 16, 2020, 08:17:36 pm
Wow that was close, well done BB

https://youtu.be/JFaqXoD9j8w
In slow mo you can see Rossi react after the first wreck flew over his front, that saved him. 41 but still with lightning reflexes!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 16, 2020, 08:20:09 pm
Those bikes explode like F1 cars
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 16, 2020, 08:21:42 pm
Great racing today - happy for Dovi & Duc  :thumleft: Mir had a great race for his first GP podium and Rossi showed again that he can still do battle with the youngsters.Maverick lost out big time and Oli seems to have become the unlucky target yet again. Don't think MM 93 needs to worry too much that Pol will steal his thunder in the HRC garage next year.Our boy Brad is clearly not a one trick pony  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: threeper on August 16, 2020, 08:28:20 pm
omg that was scary
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 16, 2020, 09:50:10 pm
Did you guys see the crash in the 600's, the Moto2 class? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Reminded me of Barry Sheen at Silverstone in the 80's.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 16, 2020, 10:05:53 pm
Did you guys see the crash in the 600's, the Moto2 class? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Reminded me of Barry Sheen at Silverstone in the 80's.

If you slow the crash down, Eggeter (Sp?) #77 has the disconnected front wheel and forks miss his head by almost nothing!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 16, 2020, 10:20:02 pm
Very close shaves today.  Many guardian angels were working hard.  Hope its not the same next week. Scary shit.

I am on record calling for VR46’s retirement, but this year he is doing his team and himself proud.  Working hard with consistent clever performance.  Nerves of steel after that close shave. Respect Valentino :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 17, 2020, 08:21:35 am
Did you guys see the crash in the 600's, the Moto2 class? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Reminded me of Barry Sheen at Silverstone in the 80's.

If you slow the crash down, Eggeter (Sp?) #77 has the disconnected front wheel and forks miss his head by almost nothing!

Yes, lots of good luck there this weekend. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Offshore on August 17, 2020, 09:31:56 am
Very close shaves today.  Many guardian angels were working hard.  Hope its not the same next week. Scary shit.

I am on record calling for VR46’s retirement, but this year he is doing his team and himself proud.  Working hard with consistent clever performance.  Nerves of steel after that close shave. Respect Valentino :thumleft:
Hell Yes, to see Big Debris fly past you and keep your cool is special, he just accelerated as if nothing happened.
Once it sunk in he looked a bit shaken. Yes KR, Respect indeed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 17, 2020, 10:29:49 am
Very close shaves today.  Many guardian angels were working hard.  Hope its not the same next week. Scary shit.

I am on record calling for VR46’s retirement, but this year he is doing his team and himself proud.  Working hard with consistent clever performance.  Nerves of steel after that close shave. Respect Valentino :thumleft:
Hell Yes, to see Big Debris fly past you and keep your cool is special, he just accelerated as if nothing happened.
Once it sunk in he looked a bit shaken. Yes KR, Respect indeed.

Simon Crafar the pitlane commentator mentioned that his bike and leathers were covered in oil spray from the bike he nearly hit.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 17, 2020, 10:37:08 am
 and keep your cool is special, he just accelerated as if nothing happened.
It's as if these guys do not skrik like normal people do.?!!
Got this W app clip last week about a bike in his lane goes over a blind rise and two bikes past him from the front on both sides!!! They were overtaking a car. End of the clip was an actor taking a slow drag on a spliff and then saying Noooo Shit!!! :o :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on August 17, 2020, 11:26:20 am
Moto 2 - Watch a 1:10 how close the front forks and attached wheel come down in the space #77 was in micro-seconds before. Then @ 1:12 the rider on the right hits the other dismatled front fork and has an instant flat that sends him off across the track towards the fallen rider.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 17, 2020, 11:27:52 am
Very close shaves today.  Many guardian angels were working hard.  Hope its not the same next week. Scary shit.

I am on record calling for VR46’s retirement, but this year he is doing his team and himself proud.  Working hard with consistent clever performance.  Nerves of steel after that close shave. Respect Valentino :thumleft:
Hell Yes, to see Big Debris fly past you and keep your cool is special, he just accelerated as if nothing happened.
Once it sunk in he looked a bit shaken. Yes KR, Respect indeed.

Simon Crafar the pitlane commentator mentioned that his bike and leathers were covered in oil spray from the bike he nearly hit.


Speaking of which, as a racer I loved Simon but was he the best they could find for this job?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 17, 2020, 11:32:58 am
Did you guys see the crash in the 600's, the Moto2 class? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Reminded me of Barry Sheen at Silverstone in the 80's.

Watse 600s kyk jy na old man?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 17, 2020, 11:34:02 am
Sho. I reckon that during the red flag period quite a few riders got some clean pants again.  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: funacide on August 17, 2020, 12:39:51 pm
Wow what races. I have been watching MotoGP for a lot of years now and have never seen crashes like that (Moto2 & MotoGP).

On the positive side, Brad ended up having a good weekend after a bad qualifying session.

Looking forward to this coming weekend for some more action :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Crop Sprang on August 17, 2020, 03:38:35 pm
And the Moto3 race was one of the best I have ever seen......breathtaking !
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 17, 2020, 04:04:30 pm
And the Moto3 race was one of the best I have ever seen......breathtaking !

Yes, awesome!!!

Darryn is awesome.....When he clicks all factors into place he is going to be a serious factor in this paddock!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 17, 2020, 04:37:37 pm
Very close shaves today.  Many guardian angels were working hard.  Hope its not the same next week. Scary shit.

I am on record calling for VR46’s retirement, but this year he is doing his team and himself proud.  Working hard with consistent clever performance.  Nerves of steel after that close shave. Respect Valentino :thumleft:
Hell Yes, to see Big Debris fly past you and keep your cool is special, he just accelerated as if nothing happened.
Once it sunk in he looked a bit shaken. Yes KR, Respect indeed.

Simon Crafar the pitlane commentator mentioned that his bike and leathers were covered in oil spray from the bike he nearly hit.


Speaking of which, as a racer I loved Simon but was he the best they could find for this job?

Agree  :thumleft: The guy really doesn't seem to be too enthusiastic as a commentator.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 17, 2020, 04:42:09 pm
Some sobering pics of the incident with Zarco etc....

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/17/photo-sequence-the-huge-austrian-grand-prix-crash/339988?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=austrian_crashpicsarticle_en&utm_campaign=Traffic

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 17, 2020, 04:58:10 pm
Did you guys see the crash in the 600's, the Moto2 class? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Reminded me of Barry Sheen at Silverstone in the 80's.

Watse 600s kyk jy na old man?  :biggrin:

OK, 675's? :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on August 17, 2020, 05:04:32 pm
765cc
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 17, 2020, 06:44:56 pm
765cc

Thanks!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Bliknêrs on August 17, 2020, 06:54:23 pm
The crashes were hctic but I really enjoyed seeing a Suzuki on the podium.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 17, 2020, 07:18:39 pm
And the Moto3 race was one of the best I have ever seen......breathtaking !

Yes, awesome!!!

Darryn is awesome.....When he clicks all factors into place he is going to be a serious factor in this paddock!!!

In my mind with DB’s aggressive style - is he more suited to bigger bikes. Would do well in Moto2 and perhaps better.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 17, 2020, 07:29:09 pm
And the Moto3 race was one of the best I have ever seen......breathtaking !

Yes, awesome!!!

Darryn is awesome.....When he clicks all factors into place he is going to be a serious factor in this paddock!!!

In my mind with DB’s aggressive style - is he more suited to bigger bikes. Would do well in Moto2 and perhaps better.

He looks of bigger build than his opposition in Moto3, this is a big penalty.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 17, 2020, 08:31:02 pm
And the Moto3 race was one of the best I have ever seen......breathtaking !

Yes, awesome!!!

Darryn is awesome.....When he clicks all factors into place he is going to be a serious factor in this paddock!!!

In my mind with DB’s aggressive style - is he more suited to bigger bikes. Would do well in Moto2 and perhaps better.

He looks of bigger build than his opposition in Moto3, this is a big penalty.

Darryn is just a bit taller, but is quite light  ;) Nothing like a Loris Baz or Davies in size  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 17, 2020, 08:39:23 pm
And the Moto3 race was one of the best I have ever seen......breathtaking !

Yes, awesome!!!

Darryn is awesome.....When he clicks all factors into place he is going to be a serious factor in this paddock!!!

In my mind with DB’s aggressive style - is he more suited to bigger bikes. Would do well in Moto2 and perhaps better.

He looks of bigger build than his opposition in Moto3, this is a big penalty.

Darryn is just a bit taller, but is quite light  ;) Nothing like a Loris Baz or Davies in size  :thumleft:

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 17, 2020, 10:26:30 pm
He is well over the combined rider bike weight limit I believe but seems Dorna are reluctant to apply the rule strictly. He definately needs a Moto2 bike - has outgrown that PW properly.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 17, 2020, 10:47:51 pm
Wish these Binder boys could just qualify better!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 18, 2020, 06:13:45 am
Wish these Binder boys could just qualify better!
Yep, better qualifying leads to less work needed in the race. But at least he's gaining lots of experience in overtaking, strategy, and riding that awesome KTM.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: roxenz on August 18, 2020, 06:51:39 am
Wow that was close, well done BB

https://youtu.be/JFaqXoD9j8w
In slow mo you can see Rossi react after the first wreck flew over his front, that saved him. 41 but still with lightning reflexes!

I also reacted ... but it was all in the nether regions!  Sjoe, I'm just so happy no-one got killed. That was ugly.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 18, 2020, 07:25:22 am
Wow that was close, well done BB

https://youtu.be/JFaqXoD9j8w
In slow mo you can see Rossi react after the first wreck flew over his front, that saved him. 41 but still with lightning reflexes!

I also reacted ... but it was all in the nether regions!  Sjoe, I'm just so happy no-one got killed. That was ugly.
Yes I reacted so quickly I almost spilled my beer !
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 18, 2020, 07:31:40 am
He is well over the combined rider bike weight limit I believe but seems Dorna are reluctant to apply the rule strictly. He definately needs a Moto2 bike - has outgrown that PW properly.

What is that combined weight limit ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on August 18, 2020, 09:16:50 am
In one of Darren's interviews he said he weighs 74.5kg with his leathers on, so not light at all.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 18, 2020, 11:25:38 am
We also must remember that the TV robs a huge amount of the speed. If you've been lucky enough to spectate at one of these races you will know how frighteningly fast 300kph is when you are right next to the circuit. Imagine how horrific it must have been track side, like for those marshals.

If Rossi was a cat, he has surely used up a few of his 9 lives in that moment.

The Binder brothers are making us proud, and Brad seems to be getting a huge amount of news coverage, which is brilliant for him.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 18, 2020, 11:40:23 am
I wonder just how fast  that bike was still travelling when it went between Rossi and Vinales?  Over 100km/h?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 18, 2020, 04:26:19 pm
We also must remember that the TV robs a huge amount of the speed. If you've been lucky enough to spectate at one of these races you will know how frighteningly fast 300kph is when you are right next to the circuit. Imagine how horrific it must have been track side, like for those marshals.

If Rossi was a cat, he has surely used up a few of his 9 lives in that moment.

The Binder brothers are making us proud, and Brad seems to be getting a huge amount of news coverage, which is brilliant for him.

I heard a comment that was made by one of the Italian moto journos - that Rossi was reincarnated at that moment  :3some:  Some also decrying why everyone is on about Rossi when Vinales was infact in more danger and closer to death ... not sure how they are measuring  ???  He did duck and hold his head at 300kph with hand offf the bars!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 18, 2020, 04:32:45 pm
We also must remember that the TV robs a huge amount of the speed. If you've been lucky enough to spectate at one of these races you will know how frighteningly fast 300kph is when you are right next to the circuit. Imagine how horrific it must have been track side, like for those marshals.

If Rossi was a cat, he has surely used up a few of his 9 lives in that moment.

The Binder brothers are making us proud, and Brad seems to be getting a huge amount of news coverage, which is brilliant for him.

I heard a comment that was made by one of the Italian moto journos - that Rossi was reincarnated at that moment  :3some:  Some also decrying why everyone is on about Rossi when Vinales was infact in more danger and closer to death ... not sure how they are measuring  ???  He did duck and hold his head at 300kph with hand offf the bars!

Huh???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on August 18, 2020, 04:43:37 pm
We also must remember that the TV robs a huge amount of the speed. If you've been lucky enough to spectate at one of these races you will know how frighteningly fast 300kph is when you are right next to the circuit. Imagine how horrific it must have been track side, like for those marshals.

If Rossi was a cat, he has surely used up a few of his 9 lives in that moment.

The Binder brothers are making us proud, and Brad seems to be getting a huge amount of news coverage, which is brilliant for him.

I heard a comment that was made by one of the Italian moto journos - that Rossi was reincarnated at that moment  :3some:  Some also decrying why everyone is on about Rossi when Vinales was infact in more danger and closer to death ... not sure how they are measuring  ???  He did duck and hold his head at 300kph with hand offf the bars!

Huh???

He did take both hands off the bars and cover his head while the bike was leaned over but was hardly doing 300kph; 140kph at most on that section of the track.

https://www.facebook.com/BTSportMotoGP/photos/a.1451205654938080/3416194305105862/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 18, 2020, 05:38:59 pm
We also must remember that the TV robs a huge amount of the speed. If you've been lucky enough to spectate at one of these races you will know how frighteningly fast 300kph is when you are right next to the circuit. Imagine how horrific it must have been track side, like for those marshals.

If Rossi was a cat, he has surely used up a few of his 9 lives in that moment.

The Binder brothers are making us proud, and Brad seems to be getting a huge amount of news coverage, which is brilliant for him.

I heard a comment that was made by one of the Italian moto journos - that Rossi was reincarnated at that moment  :3some:  Some also decrying why everyone is on about Rossi when Vinales was infact in more danger and closer to death ... not sure how they are measuring  ???  He did duck and hold his head at 300kph with hand offf the bars!

Huh???

He did take both hands off the bars and cover his head while the bike was leaned over but was hardly doing 300kph; 140kph at most on that section of the track.

https://www.facebook.com/BTSportMotoGP/photos/a.1451205654938080/3416194305105862/?type=3&theater

Yeah, the same way I had it..... At most.... And I thought it was Vinales...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 18, 2020, 07:54:51 pm
Ok a bit a artistic license on the speed but it was Vinales and evidently just as close a shave as Rossi. For what it is worth.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 18, 2020, 07:57:17 pm
Ok a bit a artistic license on the speed but it was Vinales and evidently just as close a shave as Rossi. For what it is worth.

It was an attack on the Yamahas, by MotoGP cruise missiles. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 19, 2020, 08:58:29 am
I certainly agree with BiG DoM that both Vinales and Rossi were in equal danger of getting severely injured or in fact killed, I think though the reason the press concentrated on Rossi was that he had the "bird's eye view" of the incident. He was visibly shaken when he got back to the pits.

Saw something on the Book Face last night that pointed out that their number's add up to 58, so the author reckoned that Marco Simoncelli was their guardian angel in those moments. A nice thought.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 19, 2020, 12:38:28 pm
They concentrate on Rossi because he's The Legend .................. Vinales is just another Spanish rider.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 19, 2020, 12:41:53 pm
BB is a Sunday racer.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:

Like VR46 and BB's brother and what a bullshit idea.  Yes, 17th to 4th is awesome.  Imagine with that race pace, if he had started 4th or 5th.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 19, 2020, 12:43:16 pm
Ok a bit a artistic license on the speed but it was Vinales and evidently just as close a shave as Rossi. For what it is worth.

It was an attack on the Yamahas, by MotoGP cruise missiles. :eek7:

One of which was a Yamaha ....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 19, 2020, 12:46:30 pm
I heard a comment that was made by one of the Italian moto journos - that Rossi was reincarnated at that moment  :3some:  Some also decrying why everyone is on about Rossi when Vinales was infact in more danger and closer to death ... not sure how they are measuring  ???  He did duck and hold his head at 300kph with hand offf the bars!

Rossi had two bikes attempting to ruin his day, VInales only one, but who cares?  It was pretty close for both.  Lots of whinging on social media because there is more noise about VR than MV.  Well, one is the darling of the world and the one, while a great racer and with a lot of fans, is not. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 19, 2020, 12:47:30 pm
Ok a bit a artistic license on the speed but it was Vinales and evidently just as close a shave as Rossi. For what it is worth.

It was an attack on the Yamahas, by MotoGP cruise missiles. :eek7:

One of which was a Yamaha ....

Friendly fire  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 19, 2020, 01:02:08 pm
Ok a bit a artistic license on the speed but it was Vinales and evidently just as close a shave as Rossi. For what it is worth.

It was an attack on the Yamahas, by MotoGP cruise missiles. :eek7:

One of which was a Yamaha ....

Friendly fire  8)

That is why VR was so rattled!  He will be expected to ride a Petronas Yamaha next year and clearly they don't like him much.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 19, 2020, 01:05:07 pm
Ducati for sale.  One careful rider.  Basically only used Sundays.  Dropped only once.  Contact:  J. Zarco.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 19, 2020, 04:22:36 pm
A few surface scartches that wll buff out, slight weep on front forks.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 19, 2020, 04:32:39 pm
A few surface scartches that wll buff out, slight weep on front forks.  :imaposer:

Must be a lekker job though, gooi a couple of million rondt's worth at the scenery, trundle on back to the pits and demand another one as that one now has a scratch on the exhaust  :biggrin:.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 19, 2020, 05:50:45 pm
Ok a bit a artistic license on the speed but it was Vinales and evidently just as close a shave as Rossi. For what it is worth.

Absodamnedlutely!!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 19, 2020, 08:39:17 pm
Ducati for sale.  One careful rider.  Basically only used Sundays.  Dropped only once.  Contact:  J. Zarco.

What's Zarco's excuse for stopping??  That clutch looks fine to me.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 19, 2020, 08:43:56 pm
A few surface scartches that wll buff out, slight weep on front forks.  :imaposer:

Must be a lekker job though, gooi a couple of million rondt's worth at the scenery, trundle on back to the pits and demand another one as that one now has a scratch on the exhaust  :biggrin:.

That couple of Millooon is actually aound R13M a toss in the kitty litter  :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on August 21, 2020, 10:47:35 am
1 second covers the entire field after FP1.  And 3 KTMs in the top 10.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 21, 2020, 10:53:19 am
Is the steward's report out yet on the JZ FM crash?

I still don't understand why Zarco was blamed for causing it, he was ahead and could take any line he chose to defend, but hey I'm not a racer...

Lekker to see BB33 in the top 10 again, less than 0.4s off
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 21, 2020, 10:57:06 am
And Yamaha have withdrawn their request to open their engines - seems like the problems were just heat related.  :patch:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on August 21, 2020, 11:24:44 am
Is the steward's report out yet on the JZ FM crash?

I still don't understand why Zarco was blamed for causing it, he was ahead and could take any line he chose to defend, but hey I'm not a racer...

Lekker to see BB33 in the top 10 again, less than 0.4s off

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/942605/1/morbidelli-new-images-more-nasty-sorry-zarco-comments

Morbidelli's new view on the subject after watching new footage of the indecent.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 21, 2020, 11:27:05 am
Is the steward's report out yet on the JZ FM crash?

I still don't understand why Zarco was blamed for causing it, he was ahead and could take any line he chose to defend, but hey I'm not a racer...

Lekker to see BB33 in the top 10 again, less than 0.4s off

The MotoGP Stewards have declared JZ a very naughty boy and he will start the next race from the pitlane.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 21, 2020, 11:39:08 am
"Clearly Johann took a funny line, a line that nobody has been going – never, not even once in the weekend – a super tight light into [Turn 2] just to cut ground to overtake me.

I find this weird? If you are in front you can pick any line you want if no one had taken it in the last 100 years you still have to look where the person in front is going or am I wrong?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 21, 2020, 01:42:27 pm
"Clearly Johann took a funny line, a line that nobody has been going – never, not even once in the weekend – a super tight light into [Turn 2] just to cut ground to overtake me.

I find this weird? If you are in front you can pick any line you want if no one had taken it in the last 100 years you still have to look where the person in front is going or am I wrong?

I tend to agree - I have read and seen a lot of footge of the incident and am still perplexed. Morbs rode into the back of Zarcs - he was not brake testing him, he was in front and got rear ended. Unfortunately we do not know all the backstory politics that is inevitably playing into this drama.  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 21, 2020, 01:48:02 pm
"Clearly Johann took a funny line, a line that nobody has been going – never, not even once in the weekend – a super tight light into [Turn 2] just to cut ground to overtake me.

I find this weird? If you are in front you can pick any line you want if no one had taken it in the last 100 years you still have to look where the person in front is going or am I wrong?

I tend to agree - I have read and seen a lot of footge of the incident and am still perplexed. Morbs rode into the back of Zarcs - he was not brake testing him, he was in front and got rear ended. Unfortunately we do not know all the backstory politics that is inevitably playing into this drama.  ::)

Yeah Dom, I am not sure what to make of it either. Why is Zarco carrying the can on this one....

Morbi must put on his big girls blouse, shut up and go and race now... This victim thing is no help to anyone
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 21, 2020, 02:43:34 pm
I think Zarco is seen as a bad boy on the track, last year he took Pol out in Silverstone and was also penalized.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/zarco-penalised-oliveira-crash-silverstone/4519584/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 21, 2020, 03:37:10 pm
"Clearly Johann took a funny line, a line that nobody has been going – never, not even once in the weekend – a super tight light into [Turn 2] just to cut ground to overtake me.

I find this weird? If you are in front you can pick any line you want if no one had taken it in the last 100 years you still have to look where the person in front is going or am I wrong?

I tend to agree - I have read and seen a lot of footge of the incident and am still perplexed. Morbs rode into the back of Zarcs - he was not brake testing him, he was in front and got rear ended. Unfortunately we do not know all the backstory politics that is inevitably playing into this drama.  ::)

Yeah Dom, I am not sure what to make of it either. Why is Zarco carrying the can on this one....

Morbi must put on his big girls blouse, shut up and go and race now... This victim thing is no help to anyone

these guys use the whole track to race and turn corners. When someone does something stupid, unusual or not expected, then things go pear-shaped.

Zarco did something unexpected to get ahead. It didn't work.

whether he should be penalised or not is beyond me.

To me. it's all racing - best you know can get hurt or go home.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 21, 2020, 04:27:57 pm
Strangely enough what he did worked and he was ahead ... the rest is history ...  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 21, 2020, 10:32:05 pm
kinda agree on the whole politics bit.  Simon the commentator said that JZ ran a little wider than usual which put FM in his slip stream which made it harder to brake and stop and that's why he went up the back of him.  All seems pretty feasible to me but the stewards seem to think differently. 

If you think of all the dodgy moves MM93 has pulled off without any ramifications then this leaves me slightly perplexed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 22, 2020, 02:27:14 pm
kinda agree on the whole politics bit.  Simon the commentator said that JZ ran a little wider than usual which put FM in his slip stream which made it harder to brake and stop and that's why he went up the back of him.  All seems pretty feasible to me but the stewards seem to think differently. 

If you think of all the dodgy moves MM93 has pulled off without any ramifications then this leaves me slightly perplexed.

Indeed. MM punished himself with his last dodgy move.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Altie7deLaan on August 22, 2020, 05:56:54 pm
While MM was out, there was no "overheating" probelems in the Yammie camp.
Coincidence?
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 22, 2020, 05:58:07 pm
kinda agree on the whole politics bit.  Simon the commentator said that JZ ran a little wider than usual which put FM in his slip stream which made it harder to brake and stop and that's why he went up the back of him.  All seems pretty feasible to me but the stewards seem to think differently. 

If you think of all the dodgy moves MM93 has pulled off without any ramifications then this leaves me slightly perplexed.

Indeed. MM punished himself with his last dodgy move.
Yep, and it appears now he won't be back for 2 to 3 months.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 22, 2020, 09:33:52 pm
While MM was out, there was no "overheating" probelems in the Yammie camp.
Coincidence?
 :peepwall:

They do not have to ride the Yammies so hard to keep up with MM anymore. The other Hondas are snails.

In fact, I am sorry that Binder could not have had one of the Yammies this year, sweetest handlers out there.

And Yamaha is so special, even with "overheating" engines, they lead the championship. O0
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 22, 2020, 09:41:07 pm
While MM was out, there was no "overheating" probelems in the Yammie camp.
Coincidence?
 :peepwall:

They do not have to ride the Yammies so hard to keep up with MM anymore. The other Hondas are snails.

In fact, I am sorry that Binder could not have had one of the Yammies this year, sweetest handlers out there.

And Yamaha is so special, even with "overheating" engines, they lead the championship. O0

Naka's Honda did not look too snail like ....  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 23, 2020, 02:58:00 pm
I've just cancelled my new T7..........................................................................Bike Brakes Matter!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 4 Kays on August 23, 2020, 03:54:02 pm
 :imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 23, 2020, 04:59:14 pm
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 23, 2020, 05:07:51 pm
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:

Euro bikes ruled this one bud  ;) The old man on the one and only Yamaha in top ten  ::) What happened ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 23, 2020, 05:25:55 pm
Suzuki must feel robbed
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 23, 2020, 05:59:41 pm
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:

Euro bikes ruled this one bud  ;) The old man on the one and only Yamaha in top ten  ::) What happened ?

Nee fok, kan self nie se nie oubaas. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 23, 2020, 08:35:45 pm
This might be good racing but I can't be the only who thinks this lot are racing for second place.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 23, 2020, 09:07:11 pm
This might be good racing but I can't be the only who thinks this lot are racing for second place.

You and Alberto Puig. O0

This season has been filled with the most extraordinary amount of weird happenings and incidents.

And it started with MM's stupid 1st race, breaking his arm.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 23, 2020, 09:20:06 pm
I wonder though whoever becomes champion this year (think it will be Doviziozo sp) will feel like it was a bit of a hollow victory since MM was not in it ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 24, 2020, 05:44:41 am
I wonder though whoever becomes champion this year (think it will be Doviziozo sp) will feel like it was a bit of a hollow victory since MM was not in it ?

To finish first , first you must finish , MM didn’t finish that race which put him out for ages , he did it on his own , so no , not a hollow victory for the champion this year
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 24, 2020, 05:59:37 am
Pity BB33 went wide, he was on par for a podium I'd say. And Espagaro and Miller racing each other out of a victory, classic :ricky: Some great action, though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 24, 2020, 07:51:10 am
I wonder though whoever becomes champion this year (think it will be Doviziozo sp) will feel like it was a bit of a hollow victory since MM was not in it ?

Wayne Rainey actually commented on this recently, saying that for MM to stay relevant in this year's championship, he had to stay in the series.

Puig, who initially commented on the title now being "downclassed", won his title through an opponent crashing out. :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 24, 2020, 07:53:46 am
I wonder though whoever becomes champion this year (think it will be Doviziozo sp) will feel like it was a bit of a hollow victory since MM was not in it ?

To finish first , first you must finish , MM didn’t finish that race which put him out for ages , he did it on his own , so no , not a hollow victory for the champion this year

The way they're racing I'm not sure who's gonna finish this season at all. Maybe with no spectators and no glory they feel the gloves are off, it's time to fight. To show each other who's best.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 24, 2020, 10:54:29 am
There was a few championships won because someone crashed out in the past.  It happens.  Part of being champion is not crashing, so I see no hollow victory for anyone, even if MM is out the whole season. 

Something else is, while MM made a mockery of them during 2019, we have no idea how well he would have done this year.  The Ducatis, Suzukis and KTMs seem to have made a nice jump in performance, while Honda seems to have gone the other way.  It may well have been MM's season to struggle this year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 24, 2020, 11:16:51 am
Agree 100% 

MM must not think he is untouchable or unbeatable - he has already learnt the hard way that he is not invincible ... even if it took opening a window of opprtunity for other riders  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on August 24, 2020, 11:56:06 am
There was a few championships won because someone crashed out in the past.  It happens.  Part of being champion is not crashing, so I see no hollow victory for anyone, even if MM is out the whole season. 

Something else is, while MM made a mockery of them during 2019, we have no idea how well he would have done this year.  The Ducatis, Suzukis and KTMs seem to have made a nice jump in performance, while Honda seems to have gone the other way.  It may well have been MM's season to struggle this year.

You are absolutely right.  Things change all the time.  That is what keeps it exciting.  I for one thought Zarco was going to make the KTM fly last year.  Then, when that turned into a fiasco you start to wonder if that bike maybe is crap.  And now they had all 4 bikes in the top 10.  Who would have put money on that a year ago?

Has anybody read anything as to why the Yamahas had these brake issues?  Maverick is a hero in my book.  That was split second decision making that saved his life (or at the least his well being).  I am in awe.  And it was also great to see how he did not stand there looking shocked afterwards but just thoroughly pissed off.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on August 24, 2020, 12:25:55 pm

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You are absolutely right.  Things change all the time.  That is what keeps it exciting.  I for one thought Zarco was going to make the KTM fly last year.  Then, when that turned into a fiasco you start to wonder if that bike maybe is crap.  And now they had all 4 bikes in the top 10.  Who would have put money on that a year ago?

Has anybody read anything as to why the Yamahas had these brake issues?  Maverick is a hero in my book.  That was split second decision making that saved his life (or at the least his well being).  I am in awe.  And it was also great to see how he did not stand there looking shocked afterwards but just thoroughly pissed off.
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Agree, and there is an interview on MotoGP with him where he is very pragmatic and professional and not throwing toys and getting a dig in at Yamaha. I was also massively impressed by this gladiator.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on August 24, 2020, 12:29:25 pm


You are absolutely right.  Things change all the time.  That is what keeps it exciting.  I for one thought Zarco was going to make the KTM fly last year.  Then, when that turned into a fiasco you start to wonder if that bike maybe is crap.  And now they had all 4 bikes in the top 10.  Who would have put money on that a year ago?

Has anybody read anything as to why the Yamahas had these brake issues?  Maverick is a hero in my book.  That was split second decision making that saved his life (or at the least his well being).  I am in awe.  And it was also great to see how he did not stand there looking shocked afterwards but just thoroughly pissed off.
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Agree, and there is an interview on MotoGP with him where he is very pragmatic and professional and not throwing toys and getting a dig in at Yamaha. I was also massively impressed by this gladiator.
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I think he will be glad to see the back of Austria for a good long while.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on August 24, 2020, 01:23:03 pm
I know they had no choice but holding a GP at the same track twice felt a bit less exciting the second time around  :P Mir and Taka had a good pace before the red flag wonder what happened after the restart ? Worn tyres, mental thing after having to give up good starts ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 24, 2020, 01:32:06 pm
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:

Euro bikes ruled this one bud  ;) The old man on the one and only Yamaha in top ten  ::) What happened ?

Do you think they've detuned them for reliability?  High chance that MV will start from pit lane cos he's already used up his engine quota for the yr..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on August 24, 2020, 01:51:51 pm
I know they had no choice but holding a GP at the same track twice felt a bit less exciting the second time around  :P Mir and Taka had a good pace before the red flag wonder what happened after the restart ? Worn tyres, mental thing after having to give up good starts ?

Interesting you feel this way.  Set up gets done the first week and the second week the guys can all get on the pace quickly.  And yet there is no guarantee of the same finishing order two weeks in a row.  I actually quite like it.  But some trackside spectators would add to the overall feel and excitement.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 24, 2020, 07:39:21 pm

Agree, and there is an interview on MotoGP with him where he is very pragmatic and professional and not throwing toys and getting a dig in at Yamaha. I was also massively impressed by this gladiator.

Perhaps MV is so calm and diplomatic because he knows it is all his own fault?  First he declined using the upgraded brakes Brembo brought specifically for this track because he " didn't like the feel"  and went with the normal brakes instead.  Then he had fading brake problems for two laps prior to the incident and he chose not to pit.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 24, 2020, 07:41:35 pm
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:

Euro bikes ruled this one bud  ;) The old man on the one and only Yamaha in top ten  ::) What happened ?

Do you think they've detuned them for reliability?  High chance that MV will start from pit lane cos he's already used up his engine quota for the yr..

Rev limited 300 revs earlier than normal.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 24, 2020, 07:47:20 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 24, 2020, 08:04:35 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is what I hate about things like the use of non-OEM stuff like the Magneti Marelli sole provider for all teams rule.

A manufacturer like Yamaha, worldwide renowned for top reliability, gets compromised.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 24, 2020, 08:22:07 pm
That would be fine if the electronics failed , but Yamaha have been having engine crap , the electronics which are the same for everyone has been good .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 24, 2020, 08:33:24 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is what I hate about things like the use of non-OEM stuff like the Magneti Marelli sole provider for all teams rule.

A manufacturer like Yamaha, worldwide renowned for top reliability, gets compromised.

Its not the Euro electronics nor the Euro brakes Dan.......your'e running out of excuses for your supposed superior brand  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on August 25, 2020, 07:36:34 am
It seems to me that Yamaha have taken everything they can get get out of the current engine design (layout) and need a complete new design.
In my opinion MV is a liability to the team and not an asset. Yamaha should find a good journeyman to compliment their No.1 rider.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 25, 2020, 08:06:47 am
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is not SBK, this is motogp.  If you have to go buy a bike to race, we all know it will be a Kawasaki.  In SBK its all Kawa, Dukes and Yamis. No KTM and Zooks.  Honda is not doing well there either.  One place where BMW do ok.  If you want a true manufacturer competition- watch SBK..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 25, 2020, 08:14:25 am
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is what I hate about things like the use of non-OEM stuff like the Magneti Marelli sole provider for all teams rule.

A manufacturer like Yamaha, worldwide renowned for top reliability, gets compromised.

Its not the Euro electronics nor the Euro brakes Dan.......your'e running out of excuses for your supposed superior brand  ;)

Seems to me the parts they are allowed to buy independently are crap .............................. cheapskates  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 25, 2020, 08:26:35 am
Can they still fit their own parts?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on August 25, 2020, 08:42:48 am
Perhaps it's the actual fitment that's the problem .................. they should kick those teenage mechanics out and use people of 2SDs calibre.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 25, 2020, 10:23:40 am
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is not SBK, this is motogp.  If you have to go buy a bike to race, we all know it will be a Kawasaki.  In SBK its all Kawa, Dukes and Yamis. No KTM and Zooks.  Honda is not doing well there either.  One place where BMW do ok.  If you want a true manufacturer competition- watch SBK..

Even the SBK bikes are far removed from production bikes , the Superstock class was the closest to reality .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 25, 2020, 02:48:32 pm
Perhaps it's the actual fitment that's the problem .................. they should kick those teenage mechanics out and use people of 2SDs calibre.

I agree :biggrin: , these millennials, if it cannot be tuned by laptop, they're dumbfounded.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on August 25, 2020, 02:57:42 pm
I see MV refused to fit upgraded items recommended by Brembo, all other riders, except Mir, fitted the upgraded items.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 25, 2020, 08:47:22 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is what I hate about things like the use of non-OEM stuff like the Magneti Marelli sole provider for all teams rule.

A manufacturer like Yamaha, worldwide renowned for top reliability, gets compromised.

Well Danie, Yamaha is already not using Yamaha OEM brakes, not using Yamaha OEM suspension and clearly not Yamaha OEM valves and this is by free choice.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 25, 2020, 08:52:28 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is not SBK, this is motogp.  If you have to go buy a bike to race, we all know it will be a Kawasaki.  In SBK its all Kawa, Dukes and Yamis. No KTM and Zooks.  Honda is not doing well there either.  One place where BMW do ok.  If you want a true manufacturer competition- watch SBK..

Nah Kilroy, the WSBK bikes as far removed from anything manufacturer or production.  Just like MotoGP bikes they use specialized Brembo brakes, specialized Ohlins suspensions, etc.   Some have thumb rear brakes on the left handlebar.  Heck, Kawasaki even move their fuel tank around. You cannot buy a bike to race in WSBK. 

Superstock 1000 would be closer to the truth.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 25, 2020, 08:53:30 pm
Can they still fit their own parts?

Yes.  Except ECU.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 26, 2020, 08:44:28 am
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is not SBK, this is motogp.  If you have to go buy a bike to race, we all know it will be a Kawasaki.  In SBK its all Kawa, Dukes and Yamis. No KTM and Zooks.  Honda is not doing well there either.  One place where BMW do ok.  If you want a true manufacturer competition- watch SBK..

Nah Kilroy, the WSBK bikes as far removed from anything manufacturer or production.  Just like MotoGP bikes they use specialized Brembo brakes, specialized Ohlins suspensions, etc.   Some have thumb rear brakes on the left handlebar.  Heck, Kawasaki even move their fuel tank around. You cannot buy a bike to race in WSBK. 

Superstock 1000 would be closer to the truth.

But you start with a production bike at least?  much closer than motogp bikes?  build from a production platform?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 26, 2020, 08:45:01 am
Can they still fit their own parts?

Yes.  Except ECU.

so why does Yamaha not use their own brakes?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: alli on August 26, 2020, 08:51:29 am
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on August 26, 2020, 08:55:35 am
Can they still fit their own parts?

Yes.  Except ECU.

so why does Yamaha not use their own brakes?
Yamahas are generally known for riding reliably... and sometimes stopping very suddenly.. :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on August 26, 2020, 10:57:44 am
Can they still fit their own parts?

Yes.  Except ECU.

so why does Yamaha not use their own brakes?

Why reinvent the wheel?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on August 26, 2020, 02:05:12 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is not SBK, this is motogp.  If you have to go buy a bike to race, we all know it will be a Kawasaki.  In SBK its all Kawa, Dukes and Yamis. No KTM and Zooks.  Honda is not doing well there either.  One place where BMW do ok.  If you want a true manufacturer competition- watch SBK..

Nah Kilroy, the WSBK bikes as far removed from anything manufacturer or production.  Just like MotoGP bikes they use specialized Brembo brakes, specialized Ohlins suspensions, etc.   Some have thumb rear brakes on the left handlebar.  Heck, Kawasaki even move their fuel tank around. You cannot buy a bike to race in WSBK. 

Superstock 1000 would be closer to the truth.
Heard on a podcast that one of our local rider some years ago, not sure about all the details, but he RENTED the Ohlins suspension at R1mil per year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: punisher on August 26, 2020, 02:51:37 pm
Can they still fit their own parts?

Yes.  Except ECU.

so why does Yamaha not use their own brakes?

they are kak
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 26, 2020, 07:13:03 pm
Can they still fit their own parts?

Yes.  Except ECU.

so why does Yamaha not use their own brakes?

they are kak

But are they so kak that they ever caused a rider to have to jump ship at speed? :ricky: :ricky: Brembo.....let the rem go...... :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: adamktm on August 26, 2020, 07:33:06 pm
1st time in the 38 Yrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 26, 2020, 08:03:00 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 26, 2020, 09:16:10 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 26, 2020, 09:20:01 pm
Listening to Lin Jarvis speaking about the Yamaha engine problems, I am wondering about these prototypes.  How much of them are actually made by the name on the tank?

All brakes:  Brembo
Suspension excluding KTM:  Ohlin
Gearboxes for some:  Some specialist gearbox manufacturer in England
Electronics for all:  Magnetti Marelli

Now we hear Yamaha's engine woes is because the valve supplier screwed up.  What other parts is not made by Yamaha?

This is not SBK, this is motogp.  If you have to go buy a bike to race, we all know it will be a Kawasaki.  In SBK its all Kawa, Dukes and Yamis. No KTM and Zooks.  Honda is not doing well there either.  One place where BMW do ok.  If you want a true manufacturer competition- watch SBK..

Nah Kilroy, the WSBK bikes as far removed from anything manufacturer or production.  Just like MotoGP bikes they use specialized Brembo brakes, specialized Ohlins suspensions, etc.   Some have thumb rear brakes on the left handlebar.  Heck, Kawasaki even move their fuel tank around. You cannot buy a bike to race in WSBK. 

Superstock 1000 would be closer to the truth.

But you start with a production bike at least?  much closer than motogp bikes?  build from a production platform?

I suppose that depends on the definition of production bike.  They all build homologation specials.  A run of 300 or 400 only to qualify for WSBK racing.  They are vastly different from their normal production bikes and these bikes are the basis for the WSBK bike. 

A good example was the Max Biaggi Aprilia.  The Aprilia we could buy had chain driven cams.  His bike had gear driven cams. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on August 27, 2020, 07:53:51 am
Except for KTM though?  We all know they are ready to race....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: cocky on August 27, 2020, 08:15:06 am
Except for KTM though?  We all know they are ready to race....
As always
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 27, 2020, 08:19:26 am
Except for KTM though?  We all know they are ready to race....
Not only race , but race and win
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rooikoos on August 27, 2020, 09:39:15 am
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 27, 2020, 11:10:20 am
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rooikoos on August 27, 2020, 11:12:44 am
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Clever? You mean confused  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Thanks, it makes sense now  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 27, 2020, 11:18:34 am
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Clever? You mean confused  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Thanks, it makes sense now  :thumleft:

Dorna and their rules would have confused Albert Einstein, so we are all in good company.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 27, 2020, 12:38:37 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on August 27, 2020, 01:07:20 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 27, 2020, 01:15:47 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

I am very impressed with the KTM’s , all 4 in the top 10 points to a user friendly package ,  the Honda is very much a Marquez bike that is unrideable for anyone else , the Yamaha’s seem to be having their fair share of problems , Suzuki are good , Aprilia have their moments
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 27, 2020, 01:18:22 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

Remember Gary Player's saying " the more I practice, the luckier I get " - There are some very talented up and coming youngsters looking to get into the big league, won't demand gazillion dollar salaries and will put everything into opportunities on whatever bike in whichever team  ;) 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 27, 2020, 01:37:23 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

Remember Gary Player's saying " the more I practice, the luckier I get " - There are some very talented up and coming youngsters looking to get into the big league, won't demand gazillion dollar salaries and will put everything into opportunities on whatever bike in whichever team  ;)

KTM is looking after their " youngsters"  well as well.  BB and MO are the first ever riders to go from Rookies Cup, via Moto 3 and Moto 2 to MotoGP in the same team. 

The rider with the biggest smile on his face:  Petrux looking forward to his KTM Tech3 ride next year.
The rider now crying in his manager's beer:  Jorge Martin.  Had a signed, sealed and delivered contract with KTM Tech3 for next year.  There was a small " out"  clause.  He was offered a contract by Pramac Ducati and he used the "out" to cancel with KTM and sign with Pramac.  Silly boy!   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 27, 2020, 01:52:00 pm
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

Remember Gary Player's saying " the more I practice, the luckier I get " - There are some very talented up and coming youngsters looking to get into the big league, won't demand gazillion dollar salaries and will put everything into opportunities on whatever bike in whichever team  ;)

KTM is looking after their " youngsters"  well as well.  BB and MO are the first ever riders to go from Rookies Cup, via Moto 3 and Moto 2 to MotoGP in the same team. 

The rider with the biggest smile on his face:  Petrux looking forward to his KTM Tech3 ride next year.
The rider now crying in his manager's beer:  Jorge Martin.  Had a signed, sealed and delivered contract with KTM Tech3 for next year.  There a small " out"  clause.  He was offered a contract by Pramac Ducati and het used the "out" to cancel with KTM and sign with Pramac.  Silly boy!   

Sure  :thumleft: Danilo would probably be better placed at Tech 3. What's the view on Bagnaia for 2021 -  in the A team with Miller ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 27, 2020, 03:50:31 pm
Ducati is not saying yet, but it seems the riders on their payroll will be:

Jack Miller:  Confirmed Ducati Factory
Jorge Lorenzo:  Ducati Factory (just a rumour, but Ducati boss did not deny and indicated there are possibly discussions)
Pecco Bagnaia: Ducati Factory if not Lorenzo or Zarco, otherwise continue at Pramac.
Jorge Martin:  Confirmed Pramac Ducati
Zarco:  Avintia, maybe Pramac with one of those named for Pramac in Avintia.   

If it was me making the choice I would select:

Ducati Factory:  Jack and Pecco
Pramac:  Jorge and Jorge
Avintia:  Zarco
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 27, 2020, 04:28:04 pm
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on August 27, 2020, 05:52:23 pm
Any rumors of where Dovi is heading?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 27, 2020, 08:26:02 pm
Ducati is not saying yet, but it seems the riders on their payroll will be:

Jack Miller:  Confirmed Ducati Factory
Jorge Lorenzo:  Ducati Factory (just a rumour, but Ducati boss did not deny and indicated there are possibly discussions)
Pecco Bagnaia: Ducati Factory if not Lorenzo or Zarco, otherwise continue at Pramac.
Jorge Martin:  Confirmed Pramac Ducati
Zarco:  Avintia, maybe Pramac with one of those named for Pramac in Avintia.   

If it was me making the choice I would select:

Ducati Factory:  Jack and Pecco
Pramac:  Jorge and Jorge
Avintia:  Zarco

Not a bad call at all......good mix of senior and up and coming youngster racers  ;) 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on August 27, 2020, 08:29:04 pm
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I am with you on Zarco - the KTM relationship was not good at all BUT he is a very talented, tough racer  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on August 27, 2020, 09:55:55 pm
Any rumors of where Dovi is heading?

KTM perhaps
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 28, 2020, 08:24:58 am
Any rumors of where Dovi is heading?

KTM perhaps

KTM Tech3 and then they would have to can Iker Lecuona's contract.  Perhaps send him to Moto2 Ajo to take Jorge Martin's place?

I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I am with you on Zarco - the KTM relationship was not good at all BUT he is a very talented, tough racer  :thumleft:

The only reason why I left Zarco at Avintia instead of the factory team in my pick is because he is there and seem to have adapted really well.  Ducati can leave him there with full factory support.

I get the idea that the relationship between him and KTM did not split that badly.  Him on the KTM didn't work and the split was pretty amicable.  Most of the noise around it was generated by some media houses.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on August 28, 2020, 10:28:59 am
Not saying Zarco left on bad terms, but his career took a dive because of it and now KTM seems to have gotten things right and it is a much more competitive bike. If he had stayed he could have been a title contender this year.

I have a lot of respect for him quitting because he wasn't delivering, but I think it was the bike not him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on August 29, 2020, 10:43:06 am
Not saying Zarco left on bad terms, but his career took a dive because of it and now KTM seems to have gotten things right and it is a much more competitive bike. If he had stayed he could have been a title contender this year.

I have a lot of respect for him quitting because he wasn't delivering, but I think it was the bike not him.

It seems a lot of what bothered Zarco is that he wanted to help develop the bike and did not succeed at all.  In fact, it went downhill.  A lot of people dislike him for his decision, but I have some respect for him and as a rider I like his style.  We will hopefully see him on a podium a few times soon.  You do not become Moto2 champ two years in a row if you cannot ride a bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 31, 2020, 01:06:26 pm
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I was hoping that Zarco would take over from Pedrosa but Repsol like Spanish riders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 01, 2020, 04:25:01 pm
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I was hoping that Zarco would take over from Pedrosa but Repsol like Spanish riders.

No man!  Their test rider is a German and they have had, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Eddie Lawson, Mick Doohan, Casey Stoner, Valentino Rossi and Nickey Hayden as riders.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on September 01, 2020, 05:50:33 pm
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I was hoping that Zarco would take over from Pedrosa but Repsol like Spanish riders.

No man!  Their test rider is a German and they have had, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Eddie Lawson, Mick Doohan, Casey Stoner, Valentino Rossi and Nickey Hayden as riders.

Spencer , Gardner and Lawson all raced under Rothmans Honda , they changed across to Repsol when Doohan was riding for them .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 01, 2020, 07:38:03 pm
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I was hoping that Zarco would take over from Pedrosa but Repsol like Spanish riders.

No man!  Their test rider is a German and they have had, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Eddie Lawson, Mick Doohan, Casey Stoner, Valentino Rossi and Nickey Hayden as riders.

Spencer , Gardner and Lawson all raced under Rothmans Honda , they changed across to Repsol when Doohan was ridIng got them .

True, my bad.  Dovi, not on my list, raced under Repsol colours.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on September 11, 2020, 03:18:55 pm
End of FP2, all 4 KTM's in the top 9, Pol in 3rd, BB33 in 8th and the 2 satellite Yammies taking the top 2 spots. I'm hoping for an exciting race!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 12, 2020, 10:52:48 am
Rossi is looking racy.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 12, 2020, 11:11:16 am
Rossi is looking racy.

The racy must be 'rubbing' off  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 12, 2020, 02:02:25 pm
Perhaps this is why he now has a viagra themed helmet design? :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 12, 2020, 02:26:17 pm
Perhaps this is why he now has a viagra themed helmet design? :3some:

And he was out at FP4 practice on a Hard Hard tyre choice  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 12, 2020, 02:52:26 pm
Perhaps this is why he now has a viagra themed helmet design? :3some:

And he was out at FP4 practice on a Hard Hard tyre choice  :imaposer:
Damn, she's making it hard for him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on September 12, 2020, 05:33:52 pm
Perhaps this is why he now has a viagra themed helmet design? :3some:

And he was out at FP4 practice on a Hard Hard tyre choice  :imaposer:
Damn, she's making it hard for him.

She reckons a hard man is good to find  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: punisher on September 12, 2020, 05:53:06 pm
sadly he wasnt able to slip into correct grid spot
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 12, 2020, 05:56:37 pm
His former (one of his many former) girlfriends were much better looking than the above one.

Elisabetta Canalis. George Clooney slipped up here.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 12, 2020, 05:58:36 pm
His former (one of his many former) girlfriends were much better looking than this one.

Elisabetta Canalis. George Clooney slipped up here.

Identical twins, lucky man.  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 12, 2020, 06:01:23 pm
His former (one of his many former) girlfriends were much better looking than this one.

Elisabetta Canalis. George Clooney slipped up here.

Identical twins, lucky man.  >:D
Sorry thick fingers!!! ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 13, 2020, 12:27:36 am
Barry Sheen would have been 70 today. Quick drink and ciggie on the grid  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 13, 2020, 08:45:26 am
 Legend. He had a hole drilled in the chinpiece of his helmet so he could have a gwaai in the pits without removing it (he died of cancer of the oesophagus and stomach).  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 13, 2020, 09:08:06 am
Legend. He had a hole drilled in the chinpiece of his helmet so he could have a gwaai in the pits without removing it (he died of cancer of the oesophagus and stomach).  8)

After Barry's death, in an interview, KR sr. said; "Perhaps Bazza should not have drilled that hole in his helmet"

The two never saw eye to eye, but Kenny did say that historic racing, of which Barry has been a large part, will never b the same with Sheene gone. :'(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 13, 2020, 09:56:40 am
Hey hey hey...what a yamaha day...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 13, 2020, 10:02:00 am
Hey hey hey...what a yamaha day...

Ha Ha Ha ... yeah a Yamahaha track. I

f it were not for Mme MM last year it would also have been a 1, 2 3, 4 Yamaha finish.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 13, 2020, 11:26:10 am
Darren Binder!

The guy has balls, but if only he could make it stick!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: billy-joe on September 13, 2020, 11:28:45 am
Darren Binder!

The guy has balls, but if only he could make it stick!

He looked like he had the pace to win it too.  What a pity!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 13, 2020, 02:45:49 pm
Suzuki is on rails if only they had a little more HP they would be the one to beat.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 13, 2020, 04:06:31 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 13, 2020, 04:13:09 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:
His bike was leaking something after the warmup lap before the start and that rattled him!! :P
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 13, 2020, 04:19:50 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:
His bike was leaking something after the warmup lap before the start and that rattled him!! :P
Leaking mojo?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 13, 2020, 04:23:35 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:
His bike was leaking something after the warmup lap before the start and that rattled him!! :P
Leaking mojo?
He did a lot of arm swinging coming into the pits after the race, guess you have to blame something after you had a k@k race ;)
How's that hitting the tar twice by Quartaratar ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 13, 2020, 06:08:22 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:
They said he decided to change the rear tyre (compound) just before the start as well
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 13, 2020, 06:16:07 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:

He fluffed the start, was immediately in 4th and just slid backwards. He was only bike to have both front and rear hards. He couldn't break in to the 1.32's when the leader was at times in the 1.31's. With only 3 laps to go, he started having red sectors and at times was quicker than almost everyone and eventually would have the second fastest lap of anyone on the last lap, but by then he was far back in 6th.

Even the guys on mediums said it took ages to get them up to speed, so the hards took nearly the whole race? Must be a few hot conversations back in the van.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 13, 2020, 06:16:56 pm
Would be nice if their could be a qualifying championship as well. Yamaha would do well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 13, 2020, 06:19:12 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:

He fluffed the start, was immediately in 4th and just slid backwards. He was only bike to have both front and rear hards. He couldn't break in to the 1.32's when the leader was at times in the 1.31's. With only 3 laps to go, he started having red sectors and at times was quicker that almost everyone, but by then he was far back in 6th.

Even the guys on mediums said it took ages to get them up to speed, so the hards took nearly the whole race? Must be a few hot conversations back in the van.

Indeed, seems like quite a big mistake to go for hard, if mediums struggle to warm up. He was obviously pinning his hope on a good start to use the clean trak ahead to put in some scorchers.

Which on hard rubber would have been a bad idea to start with.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 13, 2020, 06:21:13 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:

He fluffed the start, was immediately in 4th and just slid backwards. He was only bike to have both front and rear hards. He couldn't break in to the 1.32's when the leader was at times in the 1.31's. With only 3 laps to go, he started having red sectors and at times was quicker that almost everyone, but by then he was far back in 6th.

Even the guys on mediums said it took ages to get them up to speed, so the hards took nearly the whole race? Must be a few hot conversations back in the van.

Indeed, seems like quite a big mistake to go for hard, if mediums struggle to warm up. He was obviously pinning his hope on a good start to use the clean trak ahead to put in some scorchers.

Which on hard rubber would have been a bad idea to start with.

They said that the track had cooled since the day before. But still, surely his tech guys would have anticipated this?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 13, 2020, 06:23:11 pm
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:

Bad tyre choice - went hard on the back I believe, virtually the only guy to do so. Also there is a big difference between a flying lap and race laps - BB proves this often.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 13, 2020, 06:26:10 pm
Great race for Morbidelli and Bagnaia - the old man's scholars came good  :thumleft: As for Maverick......no good in shining in P, winning a watch.....and then....well nothing  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 13, 2020, 06:30:58 pm
Wonder if the KTM's are going to kak next week some more  ::)  Clearly missing something - I thought may just have been BB's riding style that did not suit the new surface but they all played tag team in the race so affected them all.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on September 14, 2020, 11:35:43 am
Didn't Vinhales break the track lap record yesterday???

What happened today? :eek7:

Bad tyre choice - went hard on the back I believe, virtually the only guy to do so. Also there is a big difference between a flying lap and race laps - BB proves this often.

As does DB......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 14, 2020, 11:46:01 am
Lets not discount just how good MM93 dominance was, since his departure the others riders are seemingly tripping them selves up with no one stepping up to plate to take charge. Yes it makes for an interesting season but it seems MM was a class above. Whoever is going to win this season is the guy with steady top 6 finishes not the one with GP wins  :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on September 14, 2020, 12:00:54 pm
[quote author=sidetrack link=topic=244155.msg4518855#msg4518855 date=1600076761Lets not discount just how good MM93 dominance was, since his departure the others riders are seemingly tripping them selves up with no one stepping up to plate to take charge. Yes it makes for an interesting season but it seems MM was a class above. Whoever is going to win this season is the guy with steady top 6 finishes not the one with GP wins  :deal:
[/quote]

93 had dominance, sadly for him he was unfortunate to suffer the type of injury he did, was it coming ? I will not say. Honda seems to have dropped the ball in my view and he would still be struggling, as bad as his brother probably not but struggle none the less he would. I wonder what Dani would have been able to do this year?

One thing is for sure, it is a pity for the riders and the fans that this Covid-19 story hit us as I think we have had and will continue to have a cracker of a season  :thumleft:

Will we see a new format of racing in future ? back to back? Makes economical sense in some ways though somewhat biased. Perhaps teams need to rethink things and bee good at every track all the time, not just those that bikes have been developed to be good at.

Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on September 14, 2020, 12:26:05 pm
Rumors that Darryn has or will be signing for Petronas SRT for next year in moto3 with a guaranteed Moto 2 ride with them in 2022. I hope its true. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 14, 2020, 12:54:37 pm
DB needs to move to Moto2 - i think his style will suit bigger bikes better
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on September 14, 2020, 02:48:23 pm
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on September 14, 2020, 03:05:07 pm
Dovi has an excellent opportunity to be champ, the best fuck you he could possible give ducati....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 14, 2020, 03:13:36 pm
DB needs to move to Moto2 - i think his style will suit bigger bikes better

Sadly, it is not just a move.  Unless he gets a very good season in Moto3 he will have to buy a ride in Moto2 and unless he has got plenty millions of ZARS available, it will be in an " also ran" team with whom he will go nowhere, fast.  The rumour that Petronas SRT wants to sign him for 1 year in Moto3 (2021) and then onward to the Petronas SRT Moto2 team in 2022 is hopefully true.  Not only is Petronas SRT amonst the best teams, they have a path to MotoGP.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 14, 2020, 03:17:18 pm
Imagine you are Valentino Rossi looking back on the weekend.

There were 9 podium spots available.  VR46 Academy riders took 5.
There were 3 top steps available.  VR46 Academy riders took 2.
Your VR46 Moto2 team takes 1 and 2 in Moto 2.
Your brother wins Moto 2.
You yourself place 4th in MotoGP.

A lekker weekend, all in all. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 14, 2020, 03:25:20 pm
Dovi has an excellent opportunity to be champ, the best fuck you he could possible give ducati....

Sure, he and about 5 others seems to be in with a shot  :thumleft :Quartararo just proved again yesterday that he is quick,but struggle with pressure.......like most of the current crop  ;)
Its there for all to see why HRC shifted little Marquez.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 14, 2020, 03:42:44 pm
I think Vinales has some head issues... 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 14, 2020, 03:57:47 pm
I think Vinales has some head issues...

Well, and racing issues for sure ! No use to post pole on Saturday and a good one at that, setting a new lap record and celebrating that achievement  like there's no tomorrow ........and then choke up on race Sunday  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on September 14, 2020, 04:49:46 pm
Dovi has an excellent opportunity to be champ, the best fuck you he could possible give ducati....

Sure, he and about 5 others seems to be in with a shot  :thumleft :Quartararo just proved again yesterday that he is quick,but struggle with pressure.......like most of the current crop  ;)
Its there for all to see why HRC shifted little Marquez.

Sure, but they have not been edged out by their current team. Dovi has
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 14, 2020, 05:10:20 pm
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

And yet MM's riding above his level/talent, whatever, has been coming for a long time. Foe a long time fans would swoon over his brilliant saves of the front wheel, forgetting that actually the front wheel should not have needed saving.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 14, 2020, 05:21:32 pm
Fans have not swoon over his brilliant front wheel saves, fans swooned over his many brilliant wins
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 14, 2020, 05:35:42 pm
Fans have not swoon over his brilliant front wheel saves, fans swooned over his many brilliant wins

Yes, that too.

But the front wheel saves is what led up to his exiting MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 14, 2020, 06:36:54 pm
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

And yet MM's riding above his level/talent, whatever, has been coming for a long time. Foe a long time fans would swoon over his brilliant saves of the front wheel, forgetting that actually the front wheel should not have needed saving.....
And yet a 1000 racers will have planted front wheels but will forever be also rans that no one will remember.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 14, 2020, 09:37:05 pm
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

And yet MM's riding above his level/talent, whatever, has been coming for a long time. Foe a long time fans would swoon over his brilliant saves of the front wheel, forgetting that actually the front wheel should not have needed saving.....
And yet a 1000 racers will have planted front wheels but will forever be also rans that no one will remember.

I have already forgotten Marc who? :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 15, 2020, 08:46:34 am
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

And yet MM's riding above his level/talent, whatever, has been coming for a long time. Foe a long time fans would swoon over his brilliant saves of the front wheel, forgetting that actually the front wheel should not have needed saving.....
And yet a 1000 racers will have planted front wheels but will forever be also rans that no one will remember.

I have already forgotten Marc who? :imaposer:
The eight time world champion you claim cannot ride properly  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 15, 2020, 08:53:16 am
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

And yet MM's riding above his level/talent, whatever, has been coming for a long time. Foe a long time fans would swoon over his brilliant saves of the front wheel, forgetting that actually the front wheel should not have needed saving.....
And yet a 1000 racers will have planted front wheels but will forever be also rans that no one will remember.

I have already forgotten Marc who? :imaposer:
The eight time world champion you claim cannot ride properly  :pot:

 :imaposer: No, he can ride more than properly, that is undeniable. I am saying that the opposition is pushing him over his limits, clearly.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 15, 2020, 02:35:34 pm
seems more that his kak bike cant keep up with his talents --- to use your logic :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 15, 2020, 03:09:45 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on September 15, 2020, 03:35:39 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 15, 2020, 06:37:39 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on.

What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 15, 2020, 08:06:29 pm


What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?

[/quote]

Pin it to win it ... bin it or win it ... and pin the bones don't plate them ... as power pushups and throwing open windows on next level painkillers will see you confined to Play Station duty for 2020.  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 15, 2020, 09:02:45 pm


What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?


Pin it to win it ... bin it or win it ... and pin the bones don't plate them ... as power pushups and throwing open windows on next level painkillers will see you confined to Play Station duty for 2020.  >:D
[/quote]

Marc "playstation" Marques?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 16, 2020, 07:47:49 am


What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?


Pin it to win it ... bin it or win it ... and pin the bones don't plate them ... as power pushups and throwing open windows on next level painkillers will see you confined to Play Station duty for 2020.  >:D

Marc "playstation" Marques?
[/quote]

This year he's Marc "NPC" Marquez :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on September 16, 2020, 10:39:58 am
Seems its true. Only a one year deal.
https://www.sepangracingteam.com/news/petronas-sprinta-racing-moto3-sign-binder?cat2=Moto3&fbclid=IwAR0yCX3-9txkRc-4Zs-FJBvpNGKwhKdKAvX9iTuN4GHQqD8BFySLE1sU5dk
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on September 16, 2020, 10:57:29 am
I think the one year deal might be to move up to the Moto2 team? Read something along those lines.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 16, 2020, 11:44:25 am
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on.

What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?

Getting over the line first
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 16, 2020, 01:38:52 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on.

What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?

Getting over the line first

Not currently.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 16, 2020, 01:39:22 pm
Seems its true. Only a one year deal.
https://www.sepangracingteam.com/news/petronas-sprinta-racing-moto3-sign-binder?cat2=Moto3&fbclid=IwAR0yCX3-9txkRc-4Zs-FJBvpNGKwhKdKAvX9iTuN4GHQqD8BFySLE1sU5dk

It's all over the news feeds now, and it is really great news. That is an exceptional team. There is a whole series on YouTube called Building Success which is a brilliant behind the scenes look at how the team was built and is run.

(first episode)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 16, 2020, 01:40:14 pm
I think the one year deal might be to move up to the Moto2 team? Read something along those lines.

One year Moto3.  If he does well enough for their liking he will move to their Moto2 team in 2022.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 16, 2020, 02:09:28 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on.

What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?

Getting over the line first

Not currently.

only when he race
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 16, 2020, 02:20:00 pm
Just also seen that Remy Gardner has signed for the red Bull KTM Ajo Moto 2 team for next year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on September 16, 2020, 02:31:14 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on.

What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?

Getting over the line first

Not currently.

only when he race

To finish first , first one must finish

Unfortuantely 93 has been on the ragged edge for a long long time and has fallen off countless times, at some point its going to debilitate you. Simple as that.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 16, 2020, 02:58:26 pm
I have also read that Mrs Rossi is expecting, thus the very clever design of his Misano helmet.

What is blue and 46mg  :biggrin:.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 16, 2020, 04:09:33 pm
Cant believe I'm saying this but maybe the Honda is bad and MM is just so good that he can still take it to victory  :pot: Was his brother and Moto2 champion not stone last on the grid this past weekend ?

The bike was developed for MM's riding style; which is clearly very different to everybody else who rides the Honda.
The same was true for the Ducati Stoner won on.

What's MM's riding style, pushing the front till it cooks?

Getting over the line first

Not currently.

only when he race

To finish first , first one must finish

Unfortuantely 93 has been on the ragged edge for a long long time and has fallen off countless times, at some point its going to debilitate you. Simple as that.

A fact indeed.  He is paying a very expensive price though.  I am not a MM93 fan, but I still would have preferred he learned without such a serious injury.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on September 16, 2020, 08:00:56 pm
I'm not a fan of him either, so won't be defending him.

However, his riding style is great, more should do it, it's not ballet yet.

I doubt he's got the balls to try the Isle of Man but he's certainly got the heart.

Jeez, can't believe I'm standing up for the squeaky runt ................................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on September 17, 2020, 06:35:17 am
I think the lack of MM has shown how good he really is. The rest may be consistently in the top 6 but he was consistently in the top 1.

On a shit bike, it seems.

His only real targets were the lap records.

I wouldn’t say a shit bike , it was a bike built around him and his riding style , unfortunately unridable by anyone else
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 17, 2020, 06:58:52 am
How much is really built around him and his riding style?  And why cant Honda built the second bike around the no2’s riding style? So name the parts that’s built around his riding style?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 17, 2020, 07:33:01 am
I think more like just a bitch of a bike that he has managed to master. Nakagami on last years model seems to be taming it as well but definitely what Pol deserves to test his talents.
 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on September 17, 2020, 07:44:50 am
How much is really built around him and his riding style?  And why cant Honda built the second bike around the no2’s riding style? So name the parts that’s built around his riding style?

Probably the frame geometry and the engine characteristics, a second bike built around the No.2 would be a completely different machine. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Dux on September 17, 2020, 08:05:25 am
How much is really built around him and his riding style?  And why cant Honda built the second bike around the no2’s riding style? So name the parts that’s built around his riding style?

As RR has stated , they change chassis geometry , move the engine up , down , forwards or rear wards which changes balance , moving swingarm position to change the ‘squat’ of the bike on corner exits , engine power delivery , basically the sky is the limit , unfortunately some changes cannot be adjusted out with suspension adjustments .
Currently the Honda is not a particularly user friendly bike and I can guarantee that HRC are working round the clock to fix it for next year .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on September 17, 2020, 09:16:16 am
"Currently the Honda is not a particularly user friendly bike" ........................... fair enough, perhaps.

But then, what is the description of a shit bike?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on September 17, 2020, 09:30:03 am
"Currently the Honda is not a particularly user friendly bike" ........................... fair enough, perhaps.

But then, what is the description of a shit bike?

One that get really poor results on Sunday when it matters.
Don't forget even the riders at the back of the pack are amongst the worlds best riders and some if not most are world champions in their own right.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on September 17, 2020, 09:47:01 am
"One that get really poor results on Sunday when it matters."

Which would be the Honda right now, not so? ...........................
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on September 17, 2020, 09:49:09 am
Or, to put it another way ............ MM makes a shit bike look good and the others make good bikes look shit.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 17, 2020, 10:10:40 am
How much is really built around him and his riding style?  And why cant Honda built the second bike around the no2’s riding style? So name the parts that’s built around his riding style?

They can and in the past often did.  These days they seem to be against that.  We saw the same with Yamaha a few years ago.

Parts:  Swing arm.  Suspension. Brakes. Frame rigidity and a longish list more.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 17, 2020, 10:11:55 am
"Currently the Honda is not a particularly user friendly bike" ........................... fair enough, perhaps.

But then, what is the description of a shit bike?

A bike, that with all the modern technology available today, cannot be adapted to suit different riders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: bud500 on September 17, 2020, 10:38:07 am
Or, to put it another way ............ MM makes a shit bike look good and the others make good bikes look shit.

No, the bike is shit for others. But it is a bespoke design en build specifically for MM. So for him it is the best bike and his results mostly show that.
The fact that you have to ride the tits off the thing and constantly push the envelope is another discussion, but still good for us and the sport as a show.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Cracker on September 17, 2020, 02:56:06 pm
Or, to put it another way ............ MM makes a shit bike look good and the others make good bikes look shit.

No, the bike is shit for others. But it is a bespoke design en build specifically for MM. So for him it is the best bike and his results mostly show that.
The fact that you have to ride the tits off the thing and constantly push the envelope is another discussion, but still good for us and the sport as a show.

For sure  :thumleft:

Based on results I'd own a Jap bike and speak Spanish or Italian .................... but I don't.

I ride a KTM and speak South African ............................ Just like my brand new hero. AND he doesn't have a squeaky voice ......................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 17, 2020, 08:55:11 pm
Or, to put it another way ............ MM makes a shit bike look good and the others make good bikes look shit.

No, the bike is shit for others. But it is a bespoke design en build specifically for MM. So for him it is the best bike and his results mostly show that.
The fact that you have to ride the tits off the thing and constantly push the envelope is another discussion, but still good for us and the sport as a show.

For sure  :thumleft:

Based on results I'd own a Jap bike and speak Spanish or Italian .................... but I don't.

I ride a KTM and speak South African ............................ Just like my brand new hero. AND he doesn't have a squeaky voice ......................  :biggrin:

But his results are somewhat squeaky....... :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 18, 2020, 08:17:53 am
A video I watched last night on which looks at the difference between an F1 car and a MotoGP bike at Mugello (now that F1 cars have raced at Mugello). I really only watch F1 highlight stuff on YouTube and I didn't think the difference was that great. 4 seconds faster in just one corner  :o.



Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 18, 2020, 10:27:50 am
A video I watched last night on which looks at the difference between an F1 car and a MotoGP bike at Mugello (now that F1 cars have raced at Mugello). I really only watch F1 highlight stuff on YouTube and I didn't think the difference was that great. 4 seconds faster in just one corner  :o.


No surprise really because of all the down force and having 4 wheels and brakes. I actually ended up on a Supersport channel on Saturday and watched a little bit of F1 practice. I have not watched F1 in about ten years and the first thing I noticed is just how quick they were around corners almost unreal !! But it's still boring and the cars sound worse then ever before although they now most likely make more power than before ? Give me Senna in a manual V12 but then I also like the T7  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 18, 2020, 12:17:42 pm
F1 drivers regularly experience up to 5g's as a result of the grip the cars generate.

Just unbelievable!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: bud500 on September 18, 2020, 12:23:11 pm
Not to mention going from 0-200 in just over 4 sec.
But yes, braking and cornering is where the big gains are made.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: IceCreamMan on September 18, 2020, 12:37:22 pm
Chili has been diagnosed with Parkinsons....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on September 18, 2020, 12:37:49 pm
4 tekkies, 4 anchors and a whole load of down-force, different center of gravity ..... what could one expect?

Even though I preferred the 80's and 90's in F1 it is still valuable to me but I still prefer motorcycle racing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on September 18, 2020, 12:39:09 pm
Chili has been diagnosed with Parkinsons....

Thats crap, PF was one of my favorite nice guys
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on September 18, 2020, 12:45:21 pm
https://youtu.be/wfsPZOb6xRA

Sheeit !  :imaposer: Hard men
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 18, 2020, 12:52:29 pm
I have some F1 fan friends who used to tel mehow incredible a F1 car is to take off 30 seconds on a bike's lap.

I tell them that they should fit 4 motorcycle tyres to the F1 car, it will still have double the rubber of the bike, but the bike will smoke it silly.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 18, 2020, 01:42:54 pm
https://youtu.be/wfsPZOb6xRA

Sheeit !  :imaposer: Hard men

Absolutely so  :thumleft: Foggy and Chili were tough, skilled racers.......with very little  " pre programmed PR splab " coming out of their mouths  :thumleft: I just loved that racing  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobD on September 18, 2020, 02:20:20 pm
https://youtu.be/wfsPZOb6xRA

Sheeit !  :imaposer: Hard men


My absolute best interview PFC..... what a legend!!

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 18, 2020, 03:02:10 pm
Best Blend tops FP2  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 18, 2020, 03:03:02 pm
https://youtu.be/wfsPZOb6xRA

Sheeit !  :imaposer: Hard men


My absolute best interview PFC..... what a legend!!




Absolutely agree  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on September 18, 2020, 06:38:33 pm
It is nice to actually hear racers say what they think.  These days it is almost all PR approved talk.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 18, 2020, 07:22:16 pm
It is nice to actually hear racers say what they think.  These days it is almost all PR approved talk.
With a can of Monster or Redbull in hand
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: mox on September 18, 2020, 08:23:33 pm
That's why Edwards is so cool, tells it as it is.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 19, 2020, 12:19:06 pm
Goodness but that is a ugly pipe on Vinales bike  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 19, 2020, 02:31:50 pm
This week's quali times already outpacing last week's by quite some.

Why do all the bikes have a wooly sock/sweatband thing around the brake and clutch master cylinders? To absorb leaks? To hide something from the camera?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 19, 2020, 02:54:19 pm
BB in P5, outqualifying his teammate. The KTM's have found some more pace here. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on September 19, 2020, 03:05:49 pm
BB in P5, outqualifying his teammate. The KTM's have found some more pace here. :ricky:

You spoke too soon.  BB in P6, PE in P4.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 19, 2020, 03:16:50 pm
Goodness but that is a ugly pipe on Vinales bike  :o
Maybe there is a parachute in for next time he has no brakes!! ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: WrightJnr on September 19, 2020, 03:34:08 pm
This week's quali times already outpacing last week's by quite some.

Why do all the bikes have a wooly sock/sweatband thing around the brake and clutch master cylinders? To absorb leaks? To hide something from the camera?
They are to prevent spillage as the reservoir is not fully sealed, a small air vent passes/links to a labyrinth that lets the reservoir equal the atmospheric pressure outside (allows it to breath) so fluid can flow correctly to the pump in the master cylinder, under hard racing conditions the labyrinth catches fluid and returns it to the reservoir but some may find its way to the breather and spill out, the sock soaks up excess fluid...

On street bikes, they help block U/V rays that quickly deteriorate fluid quality and also turns the nice clear plastic reservoir yellow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 19, 2020, 06:32:52 pm
BB in P5, outqualifying his teammate. The KTM's have found some more pace here. :ricky:

You spoke too soon.  BB in P6, PE in P4.
Damn, PE sneaked one in there. Was hoping BB would be giving him carrots .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 19, 2020, 06:46:03 pm

[/quote]
Damn, PE sneaked one in there. Was hoping BB would be giving him carrots .
[/quote]

On the menu for tomorrow.  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 20, 2020, 08:33:20 am
Starting time?  Following the LeMans 24h which only ends at 2h30
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 20, 2020, 08:42:30 am
Starting time?  Following the LeMans 24h which only ends at 2h30

2pm according to official website
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 20, 2020, 08:43:18 am
Goodness but that is a ugly pipe on Vinales bike  :o

New exhaust for the Yamahas.  VR also tried it.  Specially made for them by Piet of Piet se Plotshop vir Erdwurms, Platannas en baaik Performinse Ekshorsts.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on September 20, 2020, 08:50:36 am

Damn, PE sneaked one in there. Was hoping BB would be giving him carrots .
[/quote]

On the menu for tomorrow.  8)
[/quote]

That's what we are hoping for.  I have watched most of the practices and PE44 has been in the gravel many times this weekend.  BB33 not once that I saw.  It really seems to me that Pol must be feeling the pressure of a teammate who can put in fast last laps and is good in a race.  Looking forward to the race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 20, 2020, 09:13:00 am
Starting time?  Following the LeMans 24h which only ends at 2h30

When in Europe, always:

Moto 3: 10:45
Moto 2: 12:00
MotoGP: 14:00
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Solo on September 20, 2020, 09:35:07 am
Starting time?  Following the LeMans 24h which only ends at 2h30

When in Europe, always:

Moto 3: 10:45 11h00
Moto 2: 12:00 12h20
MotoGP: 14:00

Race start time.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 20, 2020, 11:32:33 am
Oh ffs Binder!

He was looking solid.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: I&horse on September 20, 2020, 11:47:25 am
Oh ffs Binder!

He was looking solid.
I was chewing my nails off, it was so good to see him coming from behind and then BAM!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 20, 2020, 12:37:35 pm
Terrible landing for a gymnast
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 20, 2020, 01:51:54 pm
Any landing you walk away from is a good one  :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 20, 2020, 02:01:12 pm
Oh ffs! Binder!!!

Both of them.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 20, 2020, 02:45:15 pm
Flip flopping continues in the absence of the great MM93  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on September 20, 2020, 02:51:31 pm
I have watched most of the practices and PE44 has been in the gravel many times this weekend.  BB33 not once that I saw.  It really seems to me that Pol must be feeling the pressure of a teammate who can put in fast last laps and is good in a race.  Looking forward to the race.

And so it is clear that I am just another fan who doesn't know anything.  BB33 crashes and PE44 on the podium.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 20, 2020, 03:16:12 pm
Since when is the Moto GP half screened for rugby shit??!! >:(

If BB is bad he is very bad when he is good he is super good, now he just has to become consistent. :deal: :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Skootaboy on September 20, 2020, 03:19:54 pm
The Binder brothers owe me a new TV - mine is now kicked in!
CRASHDIVE Darryn - at least you are consistent....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 20, 2020, 03:47:44 pm
Damn BB33 rode well, maybe a bit too well. What a pity, but so he learns.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 20, 2020, 05:10:37 pm
What a race!

Pol really survived well under pressure and deserved the podium, despite me wanting the Yammie on there.

Those Yamahas are on rails. Except Rossi's. >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 20, 2020, 05:32:35 pm
What a race!

Pol really survived well under pressure and deserved the podium, despite me wanting the Yammie on there.

Those Yamahas are on rails. Except Rossi's. >:D
Quartarara was very unlucky "stepping" over the line. :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 20, 2020, 08:42:35 pm
What a race!

Pol really survived well under pressure and deserved the podium, despite me wanting the Yammie on there.

Those Yamahas are on rails. Except Rossi's. >:D
Quartarara was very unlucky "stepping" over the line. :(

I heard that KTM painted that green patch there. :xxbah: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: KiLRoy on September 20, 2020, 11:00:08 pm
I like BB because he is calculated while ruthless in execution. He certainly wasnt that today. Was like a raging bull. Think he lost his composure.  Hope he will return to his old self and forget about today. Wasnt pretty to watch.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: punisher on September 21, 2020, 07:17:38 am
why is DSTV trying to spoil the only reason why I keep paying DSTV ??????

whats this kak of forcing me to watch half a screen of GP and have a screen of knobhead SOCCER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 21, 2020, 07:30:46 am
why is DSTV trying to spoil the only reason why I keep paying DSTV ??????

whats this kak of forcing me to watch half a screen of GP and have a screen of knobhead SOCCER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jettison them! Best thing I ever did only second to telling Telkom to faarkoff.  Just subscribe to MotoGP and get the full Monty with lots of extra vids, interviews, insights, archive of old races etc etc.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 21, 2020, 08:06:52 am
why is DSTV trying to spoil the only reason why I keep paying DSTV ??????

whats this kak of forcing me to watch half a screen of GP and have a screen of knobhead SOCCER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who on earth would have thought that’s a good idea. I can imagine a soccer dude being as pissed off.

Nobody would be happy.

Amazing.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 21, 2020, 08:59:23 am
I see Miller was eliminated by one of Quartararo's tear off's (sucked into his air intake). And now Bagnaia believes his accident was possibly caused by a tear off.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/944945/1/bagnaia-seeks-answers-strange-crash-costs-him-victory

I've often watched all the guys pulling them off and dumping them on the grid and thought to myself, that thing must be slippery to ride onto or over. I presume the riders also pull them off anywhere on the circuit and I saw a tech talk with Simon Crafar recently where they have at least 4 of them on at the beginning of a race. Once dumped they could literally end up anywhere on the circuit.

A bit unlucky to be put out of a GP because of a little piece of plastic.

 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: bud500 on September 21, 2020, 09:27:44 am
I see Miller was eliminated by one of Quartararo's tear off's (sucked into his air intake). And now Bagnaia believes his accident was possibly caused by a tear off.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/944945/1/bagnaia-seeks-answers-strange-crash-costs-him-victory



Wow that's interesting.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: bud500 on September 21, 2020, 09:28:42 am
I like BB because he is calculated while ruthless in execution. He certainly wasnt that today. Was like a raging bull. Think he lost his composure.  Hope he will return to his old self and forget about today. Wasnt pretty to watch.

In his post race interview he basically admits as much. Combined with not taking the extra 16kg of fuel into account.
He also noted that he took T11 faster than even in quali.... so a bit of red mist.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: ZK1 on September 21, 2020, 09:57:28 am
You have to remember BB33 is a rookie, I am sure he is doing WAY better than expected.

Because he won a race in his rookie season we seem to think he has it all sorted out, he is still learning with every outing.

He has the race speed for sure, but lack the experience...........he will get there.

DB I think the pig of a bike he is on makes him having to ride way over the limits.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Rough Rider on September 21, 2020, 10:05:39 am
You have to remember BB33 is a rookie, I am sure he is doing WAY better than expected.

Because he won a race in his rookie season we seem to think he has it all sorted out, he is still learning with every outing.

He has the race speed for sure, but lack the experience...........he will get there.

DB I think the pig of a bike he is on makes him having to ride way over the limits.

Agree with everything you say.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: adamktm on September 21, 2020, 12:03:47 pm
why is DSTV trying to spoil the only reason why I keep paying DSTV ??????

whats this kak of forcing me to watch half a screen of GP and have a screen of knobhead SOCCER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn’t mind actually, I’m a spurs fan though  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: punisher on September 21, 2020, 12:26:42 pm
why is DSTV trying to spoil the only reason why I keep paying DSTV ??????

whats this kak of forcing me to watch half a screen of GP and have a screen of knobhead SOCCER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn’t mind actually, I’m a spurs fan though  :peepwall:

 so you are a poeth then   :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: adamktm on September 21, 2020, 01:47:16 pm
 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Amsterdam on September 22, 2020, 08:24:05 am
I like BB because he is calculated while ruthless in execution. He certainly wasnt that today. Was like a raging bull. Think he lost his composure.  Hope he will return to his old self and forget about today. Wasnt pretty to watch.

In his post race interview he basically admits as much. Combined with not taking the extra 16kg of fuel into account.
He also noted that he took T11 faster than even in quali.... so a bit of red mist.

In the man's own words:

Brad Binder:
“I felt really, really good today. I made a decent start but then lost the front into Turn 11 and had a big head shake of the bike. I was thinking ‘that was close’ but then tucked the front going into Turn 13. I was a little bit wild. I tried to restart but then crashed again. So, not a great race but I’m happy because I had such a good feeling with the bike, and we’ve worked hard to get to that. Unfortunately we go home with nothing today but we’ll try again in Barcelona. We’ll need to learn quickly there and if I take one thing from this weekend then it’s that a good qualification makes life so much easier! We’ll try for that again next weekend.”
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: TheBear on September 23, 2020, 08:29:38 am
What a race!

Pol really survived well under pressure and deserved the podium, despite me wanting the Yammie on there.

Those Yamahas are on rails. Except Rossi's. >:D
Quartarara was very unlucky "stepping" over the line. :(

That was the fifth time ....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 23, 2020, 09:16:00 am
What a race!

Pol really survived well under pressure and deserved the podium, despite me wanting the Yammie on there.

Those Yamahas are on rails. Except Rossi's. >:D
Quartarara was very unlucky "stepping" over the line. :(

That was the fifth time ....

... and she protesteth too much  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on September 25, 2020, 07:53:00 pm
Brad and Darryn both looking good at Barcelona. Brad going from 21st inFP1 to topping FP2 with less than 2 min to go and then being pipped by Morbideli and Zarco.
Brad now 3rd in combined times.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 26, 2020, 06:46:24 am
Let's hope they keeps the rubber side down this weekend. These boytjies are making us proud!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 26, 2020, 08:07:19 am
Let's hope they keeps the rubber side down this weekend. These boytjies are making us proud!

It is scary how quickly and without warnings some of the fronts are washing out on this slippery track. I think it does favour the guys who like to back it in and drift - BB was missing this in the grippy last two races that tended to want to push and tuck the front.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 26, 2020, 03:25:31 pm
Yeah, not the best of qualifiers for BB, but making it through to Q2 second time in a row speaks to improvement. Holding thumbs for their races tomorrow. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 26, 2020, 04:08:38 pm
Yeah, not the best of qualifiers for BB, but making it through to Q2 second time in a row speaks to improvement. Holding thumbs for their races tomorrow. :ricky:

I think he will be fine - 4th row not such a big deal for him. I think he is being far more measured this weekend and will pay off.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: dustlover on September 27, 2020, 08:56:59 am
That second corner - the first left-hander taken on a cold left hand side of the tyre - is the one to watch. Seems to catch a lot of them out
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 27, 2020, 09:19:04 am
That second corner - the first left-hander taken on a cold left hand side of the tyre - is the one to watch. Seems to catch a lot of them out

Turns 5 and 10 as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 27, 2020, 12:25:41 pm
Cmon Binder!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: blockheadxl650v on September 27, 2020, 12:38:19 pm
Brilliant by Darryn
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on September 27, 2020, 12:39:29 pm
Barcelona Binders?  :biggrin:
Epic ride from Darren!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 27, 2020, 12:46:43 pm
Yaaaaayyyy!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Gingerball on September 27, 2020, 12:54:43 pm
What a boytjie!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: dustlover on September 27, 2020, 01:04:07 pm
The boy done good
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 27, 2020, 01:45:01 pm
Brilliant ride and well deserved win 🏁🤙🏽
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 27, 2020, 02:46:35 pm
Oh ja, well done DB! A long overdue result, I'd say.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on September 27, 2020, 04:51:46 pm
Oh ja, well done DB! A long overdue result, I'd say.

Indeed.

In other news BB and KTM's clearly struggled with cool conditions and tyre choice.  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: RobC on September 27, 2020, 05:40:35 pm
Oh ja, well done DB! A long overdue result, I'd say.

Indeed.

In other news BB and KTM's clearly struggled with cool conditions and tyre choice.  :o
Jip KTM had a shitty day... and then we have Ducati... >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 27, 2020, 05:55:06 pm
Great day for me. Yamaha won the race and leads the title chase.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 27, 2020, 06:20:21 pm
Zook boys impressed when the chips were down  8) One just wonders where to Ducati with Miller & Bagnaia  :-\ Some say Jack is a star in the making ..........I, for one, am not so sure.
Maverick, blew cold again, which has become his standard unfortunately. Aleix Espargaro had a good outing on the Aprilia for 12. Our boy and  the other KTM boys had a nightmare....... + 15 s says a lot of the struggles today.   
Quartararo was brilliant for a well deserved win.
Darryn Binder, what a boytjie  :thumleft: 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 27, 2020, 10:41:22 pm
I was really rooting for Rossi....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 28, 2020, 05:53:46 am
I was really rooting for Rossi....
Two of us, just to see the old man reclaim some former glory. Tha yamaha's are much better this year, I'm sure we'll see VR on the podium this year still.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 28, 2020, 05:56:56 am
One thing about BB33 seems to be his ability to gain places in the races. Just shows how his qualifying is holding him back though, leaves a lot of work to do during the race. Maybe he's just a much better fighter and strategist than a full out lone-lap rider. He seems to need the competitors around him to make his brain juices flow. And the testosterone, of course. I'm quite sure we'll see him on the podium again too this year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 28, 2020, 07:28:15 am
I was really rooting for Rossi....
Two of us, just to see the old man reclaim some former glory. Tha yamaha's are much better this year, I'm sure we'll see VR on the podium this year still.

The old man seem to crash better than MM. :pot: :pot: >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: sidetrack on September 28, 2020, 08:00:53 am
Joan Mir the dark horse for the championship ? It seems as the season and race goes on the Suzuki just gets better.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Sheepman on September 28, 2020, 08:04:07 am
Joan Mir the dark horse for the championship ? It seems as the season and race goes on the Suzuki just gets better.

Quite possible. Suzukis seem well sorted now.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Kamanya on September 28, 2020, 09:01:13 am
One thing about BB33 seems to be his ability to gain places in the races. Just shows how his qualifying is holding him back though, leaves a lot of work to do during the race. Maybe he's just a much better fighter and strategist than a full out lone-lap rider. He seems to need the competitors around him to make his brain juices flow. And the testosterone, of course. I'm quite sure we'll see him on the podium again too this year.

If I remember him being interviewed early in his MOto3 days where he had learned from Rossi I think to worry less about his qualifying pace but to spend all his time getting his race pace setup right, especially on worn tires and less fuel. It had come as a revelation as up until then, he would stress himself out about qualifying. Invariably, he'd be down the start order but with the bunches so big from slipstreaming, it hardly made a difference.

I wonder if this is still a bit of his strategy? If so, the challenge is that slipstream is less of an effect and starting order is important.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on September 28, 2020, 09:17:04 am
I found this interview very interesting and informative for th9ose who have'nt seen it

I like the way Rossi is shifting so that he can still be part of the MotoGP brand .. if you compare Rossi to Lorenzo for example.


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: dustlover on September 28, 2020, 09:56:14 am
One thing about BB33 seems to be his ability to gain places in the races. Just shows how his qualifying is holding him back though, leaves a lot of work to do during the race. Maybe he's just a much better fighter and strategist than a full out lone-lap rider. He seems to need the competitors around him to make his brain juices flow. And the testosterone, of course. I'm quite sure we'll see him on the podium again too this year.

If I remember him being interviewed early in his MOto3 days where he had learned from Rossi I think to worry less about his qualifying pace but to spend all his time getting his race pace setup right, especially on worn tires and less fuel. It had come as a revelation as up until then, he would stress himself out about qualifying. Invariably, he'd be down the start order but with the bunches so big from slipstreaming, it hardly made a difference.


Interesting and I agree with you.
I think his problems began with the start. I saw a photo of the first corner atfer the start. He was 18th!!  I'd love to know why because he's normally a good starter. And yes, gone are the days of starting at the back of the grid and passing everyone on the way to the front. As the BT Sport commentators said, once you are back on the grid or low down in the order, you put yourself in the middle of other people's problems as well as your own. Look what happened to Dovi as an example.

I wonder if this is still a bit of his strategy? If so, the challenge is that slipstream is less of an effect and starting order is important.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: OomD on September 28, 2020, 01:05:06 pm
But BB did ride well, if I recall he was up to 8th at one stage, before slipping back to 11th again. I missed what happened there, my bloody MotoGP streaming periodically stopped and reset itself back to the start of proceedings. Then I have to exit and go back in, and lose out on a lap or so's riding.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2020
Post by: dustlover on September 28, 2020, 03:52:49 pm
Well done on making sense of my posting. Haha. I see I not only included my comments in yours but also stuck them in before yours even ended. Eish and well done again..