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Title: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 12:49:35 pm
https://www.thekhukurihouse.com/

6 years ago i made contact with a guy called Shilpa Lama.

Ex Ghurka and heavily involved with Ghurka vets and kukri making.  After lengthy discussions in which he told me how they made these artworks and how the profits gets spend to help the vets and their families survive - i ordered 5 from Nepal.  Had to wait a bit since the get made on order.  Wow....they came with certificates of authenticity.  All made in various parts in Nepal - they obviously source the different craftsmen.  Functional pieces of art.  Its beautiful.

Shilpa is a gentleman and fellow soldier.  He gives discount to orders from serviceman and we stayed in touch for long.

If you are interested - see their website. And here is Shilpa’s email...  customercare@thekhukurihouse.com

Please refer to my email - hein lorenzen from 2014

Tip, the knives are relatively cheap, but the shipping is high from Nepal.  Try klap together and do a bulk order. Shilpa can also advise on the right tax information.

I will post pics later
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 01:39:44 pm
Pics - only 3 left. Gave 2 away.  The love needs sharing. No hoarding  .... not too much
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 01, 2020, 01:55:49 pm
I also got one from Nepal while working in the DRC with the UN Nepal contingent.
Mine is just a sentimental showpiece.
The hoof in the blade is to prevent blood from dripping on your hand - just something interesting he has told me.
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 02:02:10 pm
The left one is the standard military dress model. Fully functional, high level of gloss with the 2 small sharpening ‘knifves’.

Middle one is a proper worker, low polish, thicker, harder. Use as a machete

Right is a small model, carry under arm to your favourite shithole, and watch the surprise when the macho comes out :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Oshkosh on February 01, 2020, 02:07:09 pm
My Kukri apparently was made from old Leaf springs of the Passenger Train Carriages!!
@KiLRoy do you also have the extra blades like mine? scratch that!!
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 02:11:54 pm
Yes, the ceremonial military one. The machete one you use a file.. :biggrin:

Hilts traditionally from water buffalo horn. Sheath from their leather

It really is low tech art. And they still practice their knife welding moves.  Awesome soldiers..

Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: freefalk on February 01, 2020, 03:33:56 pm
I also got one from Nepal while working in the DRC with the UN Nepal contingent.
Mine is just a sentimental showpiece.
The hoof in the blade is to prevent blood from dripping on your hand - just something interesting he has told me.

The "hoof" is also a trident, which is representative of shiva's trident
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: freefalk on February 01, 2020, 04:05:29 pm
I still have a few in my little collection. I bought them on my travels in Nepal around 2002. There are several respected Kukri masters, that have their wares on sale in Kathmandu. I think these were from Kukri House as mentioned by Kilroy.

The dirty one is the farmers knife... 1kg. My camping/utility workhorse.

The shiny guy is the WW2 issue... 11 inch blade. Unused. To have and to hold. Its a little longer and comes with polished buffalo horn grip and blade... its slightly longer than the "general issue military knife"  that is given to soldiers in basics and is also unpolished. Blade and grip.

The little one, is a "general purpose" knife. 15cm blade... Its unused. The discolouration will polish away easily... didn't oil it properly before stashing it. One of the little utility knives is missing from the sheath. I'd be happy to let it go to a home where someone wants it.
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 01, 2020, 04:34:56 pm
 :)
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Welsh on February 01, 2020, 04:47:33 pm
Not really on topic, but I worked in Aldershot for a short while, the Gurka's were based there, the respect, not fear, respect of the Gurka's was awesome. The British public a couple of years ago forced the Government to give Gurka's who served in the British forces British not Nepalese Military Pensions, trust me there is a difference.
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 01, 2020, 05:40:03 pm
Not really on topic, but I worked in Aldershot for a short while, the Gurka's were based there, the respect, not fear, respect of the Gurka's was awesome. The British public a couple of years ago forced the Government to give Gurka's who served in the British forces British not Nepalese Military Pensions, trust me there is a difference.

Huge difference, not sure if it's ok to mention this and only a fact relayed from a Gurka in the Congo; they were used for quick silent kills mostly in the early morning hours.
The 'normal Nepal soldiers' were a bit of a joke in the Congo really, never seen war and were in way over their heads. Sadly some of the contingent that had to guard us whilst doing demining dit not make it past the ruffles rebels as well as a contingent from Bangladesh  :'(
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 06:03:23 pm
Tom are you talking about the Gurkas in the British Army? Or what normal Nepal soldiers are you referring to?  Or are you talking about Gorkhas?
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 06:15:30 pm
I see now what you mean.  Gurkhas serving in India and other countries and those contracted by UN and security firms. Not the British Gurkha regiments?

These

https://oldsite.issafrica.org/uploads/PEACECHAP7.PDF
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 01, 2020, 06:27:40 pm
I see now what you mean.  Gurkhas serving in India and other countries and those contracted by UN and security firms. Not the British Gurkha regiments?

These

https://oldsite.issafrica.org/uploads/PEACECHAP7.PDF

Correct - the UN contracts them as well as security contractors in other theatres like Afg.

The biggest challange working with them is their dedication to the Hindu religion as well as some lifestyle differences but I liked them mostly. Focused soldiers.
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KiLRoy on February 01, 2020, 06:36:59 pm
I would bet there is a huge difference between the quality of gurkhas serving in the british army and those contracted by other organisations? 
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Welsh on February 01, 2020, 07:06:18 pm
I would bet there is a huge difference between the quality of gurkhas serving in the british army and those contracted by other organisations?

The ones in Aldershot, were the ones that the stupid fresh new Para's treated with respect.  :sip:
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Vis Arend on February 02, 2020, 05:23:49 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Exploratio on February 28, 2020, 03:43:34 pm
Was gifted this one by a friend returning from Irak.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/810d202213554c3a011bfffc013547bd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/89e88de300480eb314d15a79d31c389b.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Bill the Bong on March 30, 2021, 05:36:02 pm
I found this in some stuff my Dad gave me. He apparantly got this during his travels in the British Navy. Joined when he was 15 - really - left at 22 to join the SADF. He is now just short of 79, so he got this around 60 years ago. Is this legit or is it a presentation piece?
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Hardy de Kock on March 30, 2021, 05:50:54 pm
I found this in some stuff my Dad gave me. He apparantly got this during his travels in the British Navy. Joined when he was 15 - really - left at 22 to join the SADF. He is now just short of 79, so he got this around 60 years ago. Is this legit or is it a presentation piece?

Ek gaan vir jou probeer uitvind  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Bill the Bong on March 30, 2021, 06:35:41 pm
Kwaai, dankie. Ek is meer n knipmes ou - Opinels, Mam, Joseph Rogers en Okapis😵
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: KaTooMatt on May 19, 2021, 03:46:49 pm
I found this in some stuff my Dad gave me. He apparantly got this during his travels in the British Navy. Joined when he was 15 - really - left at 22 to join the SADF. He is now just short of 79, so he got this around 60 years ago. Is this legit or is it a presentation piece?
That looks very like one of the Kukri's my father had. He has passed them all down to grandchildren.None for his kids mind you.

He inhherited them from my grandfather who served WW2 as an officer with the 7th Gurkha rifles. My Dad was born in Shillong as a result. Sadly my Grandfather having fought in both wars passed away on Poppy day in the year I was born. Dressed in his uniform ready for the parade.

In terms of Gurkhas. There are 2 proper Gurkhas. The Indian army and the British army both got Gurkha regiments after Indian independence in 1947. Then you get the tribesmane who are also Gurkhas that are normal soldiers in the Nepalese army. The Kukri though is a traditional trbal weapon not the exclusive preserve of these light infantry units.

The birth of the regiments are also interesting. The king of the Gurkha's was so impressed with the braveery of the British soldiers facing a charge of his warriors that he wanted his people to learn this bravery. Hence him gifting 2 regiments to the crown to join the British Army and learn the bravery of the redcoats.

Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Spectaitor on May 20, 2021, 07:46:02 am
You guys have the right friends to be getting these as gifts  ;D

Fantastic looking blades and with a truly rich history, it's hard to believe that these knives haven't fallen to the history books since they are no longer as effective in general combat as they used to be.
If you wanted one from https://www.thekhukurihouse.com/ (https://www.thekhukurihouse.com/) do you still pay import on that?
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Bill the Bong on May 20, 2021, 10:14:49 am
I found this in some stuff my Dad gave me. He apparantly got this during his travels in the British Navy. Joined when he was 15 - really - left at 22 to join the SADF. He is now just short of 79, so he got this around 60 years ago. Is this legit or is it a presentation piece?
That looks very like one of the Kukri's my father had. He has passed them all down to grandchildren.None for his kids mind you.

He inhherited them from my grandfather who served WW2 as an officer with the 7th Gurkha rifles. My Dad was born in Shillong as a result. Sadly my Grandfather having fought in both wars passed away on Poppy day in the year I was born. Dressed in his uniform ready for the parade.

In terms of Gurkhas. There are 2 proper Gurkhas. The Indian army and the British army both got Gurkha regiments after Indian independence in 1947. Then you get the tribesmane who are also Gurkhas that are normal soldiers in the Nepalese army. The Kukri though is a traditional trbal weapon not the exclusive preserve of these light infantry units.

The birth of the regiments are also interesting. The king of the Gurkha's was so impressed with the braveery of the British soldiers facing a charge of his warriors that he wanted his people to learn this bravery. Hence him gifting 2 regiments to the crown to join the British Army and learn the bravery of the redcoats.

Thank you, appreciate it
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: McSack on July 19, 2021, 04:56:42 pm
Been looking for one for a while and this specimen looks almost brand new...well as brand new as these things can look I guess(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210719/b42902c009f63db6b841c24a86178a01.jpg)

Anyone got any idea how one could go about verifying if these are genuine articles or finding out who made a particular  kukri?
Title: Re: The Gurkhas and their Kukris
Post by: Welsh on July 19, 2021, 05:21:33 pm
I found this in some stuff my Dad gave me. He apparantly got this during his travels in the British Navy. Joined when he was 15 - really - left at 22 to join the SADF. He is now just short of 79, so he got this around 60 years ago. Is this legit or is it a presentation piece?
That looks very like one of the Kukri's my father had. He has passed them all down to grandchildren.None for his kids mind you.

He inhherited them from my grandfather who served WW2 as an officer with the 7th Gurkha rifles. My Dad was born in Shillong as a result. Sadly my Grandfather having fought in both wars passed away on Poppy day in the year I was born. Dressed in his uniform ready for the parade.

In terms of Gurkhas. There are 2 proper Gurkhas. The Indian army and the British army both got Gurkha regiments after Indian independence in 1947. Then you get the tribesmane who are also Gurkhas that are normal soldiers in the Nepalese army. The Kukri though is a traditional trbal weapon not the exclusive preserve of these light infantry units.

The birth of the regiments are also interesting. The king of the Gurkha's was so impressed with the braveery of the British soldiers facing a charge of his warriors that he wanted his people to learn this bravery. Hence him gifting 2 regiments to the crown to join the British Army and learn the bravery of the redcoats.

The Gurkha Regiment was based in Aldershot, when I was there, they were highly respected and didn't cause shit or get it.