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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: Knucklhead on March 03, 2020, 12:19:25 pm

Title: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 03, 2020, 12:19:25 pm
Soooooo i know im gonna get kak now  but i need a few opinions...

Can get this 2007 sportster 1200 for 40k, 43000km on the clock...now ...is this an acceptable purchase for a toppie, or are these models classed as a "girly" harley??  :deal:

thoughts ?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Clockwork Orange on March 03, 2020, 12:23:09 pm
The vibrations should be excellent physio for your tendons :peepwall:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 03, 2020, 12:24:58 pm
Just Saturday past I was riding around and went passed a Harley dealer, the urge struck so at the round bout I made a u turn to the dealership. Had a lekker coffee and chat...

Now, I like the less frills and tassles kinda Harley, the bad ass looking scoot with less is more. I chew the cud with the salesman and was a lekker experience. YOu can buy anything Harley these days. Most of the ous working in the dealership had more tats and bigger boeps than me and the obligatory ponytail or bald. depending on ones genetics.


I like the 1200 Roadster, to me this is the best looking out of all the models. its also amongst the cheapest. If I win lotto etc who knows.


So, if you like the sportster just buy the damn thing. At that price I doubt you would lose.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: DIRT SKUNK on March 03, 2020, 12:26:55 pm
The gravel will bugger up that Chrome in no time?
not much travel either?
If you want to ride the Harley then buy it  bugger what other people think ????
you may need to have a thick skin because you are going to get the chirps!!
looks a fair ride to me
just saying
DS
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: manxkipper on March 03, 2020, 12:27:29 pm
The 883 is the hairdresser model so the 1200 is fine. Some say it's better than the bigger models in terms of ridability.

I'd say take it for a decent spin first as they do take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 03, 2020, 12:38:54 pm
I took the Street-Rod for a spin over December - bikes extremely cheap but I must say I really enjoyed it.

The only Harley's that I like are the ones classified as baby Harleys or girly-Harleys, the 883 and the 750 Street Rod.

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on March 03, 2020, 12:57:38 pm
are these models classed as a "girly" harley??

Hell, any HD is classed as.....  :biggrin:
But whatevs, if you can't help yourself (or that toppie  :P ) then a 1200 at least has the real lazy beat, the 800's rev more like a redhead with pms.
Enjoy if you can't help yourself!  ;)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on March 03, 2020, 12:59:48 pm
I took the Street-Rod for a spin over December - bikes extremely cheap but I must say I really enjoyed it.

The only Harley's that I like are the ones classified as baby Harleys or girly-Harleys, the 883 and the 750 Street Rod.

Im completely the opposite. If I'm buying a Harley it's gotta be the full size, Dyna or Softail.  Sporties and that 750 street thing do absolutely nothing for me.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 03, 2020, 01:22:55 pm
been told by a harley oke here in PE ...If its a Fuel injected model its a girls bike, the models with the carb make for super cool project bikes or customs.. :patch:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: eberhard on March 03, 2020, 01:29:57 pm
Lekker man  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Eendstop on March 03, 2020, 01:54:58 pm
But.......the choices one makes says a lot about oneself  :3some:

Buy the damn thing and just look away when people laugh and say you're a poser. :thumleft:

I always said, the day I can't swing my leg over a proper bike's seat, I'll get a Harley.   Not there yet :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 03, 2020, 02:49:15 pm
I took the Street-Rod for a spin over December - bikes extremely cheap but I must say I really enjoyed it.

The only Harley's that I like are the ones classified as baby Harleys or girly-Harleys, the 883 and the 750 Street Rod.

Im completely the opposite. If I'm buying a Harley it's gotta be the full size, Dyna or Softail.  Sporties and that 750 street thing do absolutely nothing for me.

I guess the reason why I like the smaller Harley's are that they are the closest to an everyday bike.

They can still go around a corner.

Sunday a guy on a big Harley came past while I was walking next to the road - man that thing scraped pegs and he was not even leaning it over all that much.

If it is compromised just for the looks of it then no thanks - not interested.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on March 03, 2020, 02:54:10 pm
IMHO if you have lost your middle stump and bails and have strangely grown a vagina then this will be the perfect bike for you.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: roxenz on March 03, 2020, 03:16:54 pm
Buy it and turn it into a rat bike. There's one like that on the West Rand and I wouldn't mind being seen on it. Also, the guy who rides it, can ride. No puttering around in the HD Sunday creche for him...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 03, 2020, 03:17:35 pm
IMHO if you have lost your middle stump and bails and have strangely grown a vagina then this will be the perfect bike for you.

awww gee thanks buddy  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: jaybiker on March 03, 2020, 05:02:52 pm
I normally take the piss out of Harleys, but no, that's juvenile, heehee.  >:D

I'll just remark that such a well kept low mileage example, and going for such a low price.

Wouldn't be the case if it was a Beemer, a Honda, etc.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: manxkipper on March 03, 2020, 05:15:13 pm
I took the Street-Rod for a spin over December - bikes extremely cheap but I must say I really enjoyed it.

The only Harley's that I like are the ones classified as baby Harleys or girly-Harleys, the 883 and the 750 Street Rod.

Im completely the opposite. If I'm buying a Harley it's gotta be the full size, Dyna or Softail.  Sporties and that 750 street thing do absolutely nothing for me.

A 350kg fatboy is great. They are a real sod to push about and have no ground clearance at all. I wore out the foot plates on my fatboy in double quick time!
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Gérrard on March 03, 2020, 05:33:08 pm
What you okes dont get is he does not ride. What he really wants to know is if it makes a nicer show piece than a 1200adv  :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: SmuGS on March 03, 2020, 05:36:59 pm
What you okes dont get is he does not ride. What he really wants to know is if it makes a nicer show piece than a 1200adv cardboard cut-out  :lol8:

Fixed..
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 03, 2020, 05:51:51 pm
What you okes dont get is he does not ride. What he really wants to know is if it makes a nicer show piece than a 1200adv cardboard cut-out  :lol8:

Fixed..

 :biggrin: :imaposer: :patch:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on March 03, 2020, 06:33:59 pm
I took the Street-Rod for a spin over December - bikes extremely cheap but I must say I really enjoyed it.

The only Harley's that I like are the ones classified as baby Harleys or girly-Harleys, the 883 and the 750 Street Rod.

Im completely the opposite. If I'm buying a Harley it's gotta be the full size, Dyna or Softail.  Sporties and that 750 street thing do absolutely nothing for me.

I guess the reason why I like the smaller Harley's are that they are the closest to an everyday bike.

They can still go around a corner.

Sunday a guy on a big Harley came past while I was walking next to the road - man that thing scraped pegs and he was not even leaning it over all that much.

If it is compromised just for the looks of it then no thanks - not interested.

One of the guys I ride with chucks a Dyna (with ape hangers) around like a supermoto, it's insane. 

Granted I'm not the fastes rider, nor do I have the biggest balls, but I can barely keep up with him in the twisties in Sabie, sometimes I have to admit defeat and just let him go before I run out of talent.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 03, 2020, 08:46:42 pm
Thnks all, I was mostly wondering about the girley aspect. I'll check out the scoot first
Thanks  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on March 03, 2020, 08:59:16 pm
As usual, check out Gumtree for comparable year model bikes.

As far as I can tell, R40K is not a bad price but the mileage is quite high - Sportsters don't clock up a lot of km generally.
It's the chaps on the big touring models that really rack up the miles.

Also do a Google search to see if the 2007 had any known issues.

Enjoy !
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on March 03, 2020, 09:00:36 pm
Thnks all, I was mostly wondering about the girley aspect. I'll check out the scoot first
Thanks  :thumleft:
The only Girly aspect of HD's is that you have more pulling Power with Wimmen than on any other Bike.
HD'S are obviously underrated on this Forum but with Like minded Buddies on Harleys riding in small Crowd, on a Mission, is an Experience you will always want to repeat.
The End
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Guido on March 04, 2020, 03:21:05 am
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 04, 2020, 07:34:12 am
What do you guys think of the Vrod? Test drove one the other day and liked it. And yes I know its liquid cooled and as such not a "real" HD ;)

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 04, 2020, 09:55:21 am
thanks for all the replies....from checking at all of the PM's i received expressing interest in this scoot, id say many of you ouens are all Harley lovers and don't want to admit it publicly  :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on March 04, 2020, 09:59:38 am
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.

Tell me about a 2005 Night Train?   There's one for sale and god it's a good looking bike.   I've heard the Softails dont handle as well as the Dynas though?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Herkules on March 04, 2020, 10:31:36 am
 :sip: In my opinion they are dangerous bikes, looks like the brakes can't stop the weight of the ship. of the last three accidents I know of involving these bikes, I am convinced a duely or superbike would have survived. That means brakes and maneuverability are not good at all.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roxtar on March 04, 2020, 10:42:05 am
I am an out of the closet Harley/Indian fan and always make a point of riding them whenever I get a chance.... WHOLE OTHER WORLD of riding compared to my regular 990 steed... some in a good way, others not so much! Go ride a few and see which one talks to you... I rode a lot of HD around Kyalami, hated most due to lethargic handling and rubbish brakes but then again you have to remember these are cruisers and not intended for the enthusiastic rider... ;) I could however easily see myself on a VRod/Breakout any time of the day... :lol8:

The one bike that stood OUT for me on Kyalami was the Indian Scout.... gem of an engine that pulls like a steam train (sees 180kmh easily) and has handling to boot with decent brakes.... if you can stretch your budget rather go for one of these, it makes HD look really silly with their comparable offering imo... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Herkules on March 04, 2020, 11:00:08 am
 :sip: I do like the looks of the Indian though, my Dad had one before I was born, in the 1940"s I think. I can remember him telling me that.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: manxkipper on March 04, 2020, 11:59:44 am
If you are looking at the 88 cube motor in a big harley just be aware that they had an issue with the cam chain tensioners wearing out prematurely which could cause serious engine problems. From 07 onwards the design changed.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: heinzz on March 04, 2020, 12:12:27 pm
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.

Will also never sell my Dyna. 2007 with 30.000km on the clock.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lem on March 04, 2020, 12:18:30 pm
Craig, if you are looking for something to leave at your holiday home & cruise around Jeffries for a beer, bread or milk then the Sportster is a good bike. Then again...a BWS100 scooter or a Vespa would have been even better.

Otherwise, they are very small to sit on, seriously hard on your back, but quite fun to ride. The 1200 is punchy out of the blocks. They need a bit more force to turn in to the right than the left because of the gearbox weight is all on one side.

If you really want to buy a Harley, go for something bigger that is more comfortable...like a Dyna Wide Glide/Streetbob/Fatbob or a Softail Fatboy or Road King. All three of these frame models are awesome!
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on March 04, 2020, 12:41:46 pm
from checking at all of the PM's i received expressing interest in this scoot, id say many of you ouens are all Harley lovers and don't want to admit it publicly

Oh is it eh?
Geez, lotsa closet faggots here then who will publicly laugh at tassles but secretly think they're manly!

Mind, that leaves you.... got tassles on your dirt/enduro bike?
Don't answer "Not yet" here bru...  :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Guido on March 04, 2020, 01:26:37 pm
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.

Tell me about a 2005 Night Train?   There's one for sale and god it's a good looking bike.   I've heard the Softails dont handle as well as the Dynas though?

Night train is a great looking bike. Handling wise, I don’t like any softail pre 2013. The handling will not be great, but that of course is personal opinion although quit well known. There are guys that ride way older softail, that rave about them. The whole ‘braking’ argument is a load of rubbish, you have to compare apples with apples, you cannot compare a dual sport/ super bike braking characteristics to a Harley, so I’m not going to comment on that. My dyna is a great bike to ride, braking needs to be planned, but if need be and you have the  know how, can be stopped ASAP. My roadglides  braking is better than my ktm990’s, with a pillion and 35kgs of luggage, bearing in mind it almost weighs double. At the end of the day, the argument of Harley’s being bad rides is antiquated, take some of the new 2019/2020 bikes for a spin, and your eyes will be opened, just give them a chance, they are completely different to any dual sport bike.
If you are interested in buying a Harley, I suggest you pick the model you looking at, and watch ‘Matt laidlaws’ review on the model on YouTube, he gives a very accurate view of the entire bike, from aesthetics to handling, and he has huge experience with the brand.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 04, 2020, 02:10:33 pm
basically the same sportster that I have. I actually just said no to R40k for it, wanting R45k.
But this is not me complaining that I will still have it.

Mine has a new engine, previous one changed at 80k km. Some oil starvation issue. I would rate it pretty solid wrt reliability
They are also some of the first ones with rubber engine mountings, so infamous vibrations addressed.
Mine has a proper setup carb, starts first time even if it was sitting for a month. Gets 22kmpl at 140kmph, better than any big adventure bike.

And no one will believe you that you paid only R40k for it.

But yes, breaks and suspension is shit. I guess everything is relative though. I see it as an old muscle car, they are average fast, crap handling and braking, but great raw fun. Same with this bike. Every ride is an event.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on March 04, 2020, 02:17:19 pm
Every ride is an event.

Exactly!

My brother has a Iron 883 and just going round the block feels like an event.

On the KTM you have to go out and wheelie, and jump over shit and slide it to have fun...."just riding" is boring haha
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 04, 2020, 02:33:53 pm
Every ride is an event.

Exactly!

My brother has a Iron 883 and just going round the block feels like an event.

On the KTM you have to go out and wheelie, and jump over shit and slide it to have fun...."just riding" is boring haha

well, owning a KTM as well, bad habits are there and its a good thing the Harley just gathers dust.
I am not the best of riders, but make up in windgatheid. Every ride with the Harley will also have me try at least once to slide it on loose gravel in the road. Its only a matter of time till I get it wrong....
I am also well aware of where exactly the bumpstops sit and what y back can take (when I am calm, rest of the time I lift my butt over the speedbumps)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 04, 2020, 03:48:32 pm
basically the same sportster that I have. I actually just said no to R40k for it, wanting R45k.
But this is not me complaining that I will still have it.

Mine has a new engine, previous one changed at 80k km. Some oil starvation issue. I would rate it pretty solid wrt reliability
They are also some of the first ones with rubber engine mountings, so infamous vibrations addressed.
Mine has a proper setup carb, starts first time even if it was sitting for a month. Gets 22kmpl at 140kmph, better than any big adventure bike.

And no one will believe you that you paid only R40k for it.

But yes, breaks and suspension is shit. I guess everything is relative though. I see it as an old muscle car, they are average fast, crap handling and braking, but great raw fun. Same with this bike. Every ride is an event.

apparently this one is fuel injected..what model is yours ?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Manic on March 04, 2020, 08:29:08 pm
basically the same sportster that I have. I actually just said no to R40k for it, wanting R45k.
But this is not me complaining that I will still have it.

Mine has a new engine, previous one changed at 80k km. Some oil starvation issue. I would rate it pretty solid wrt reliability
They are also some of the first ones with rubber engine mountings, so infamous vibrations addressed.
Mine has a proper setup carb, starts first time even if it was sitting for a month. Gets 22kmpl at 140kmph, better than any big adventure bike.

And no one will believe you that you paid only R40k for it.

But yes, breaks and suspension is shit. I guess everything is relative though. I see it as an old muscle car, they are average fast, crap handling and braking, but great raw fun. Same with this bike. Every ride is an event.

apparently this one is fuel injected..what model is yours ?

Carb model  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 05, 2020, 08:21:25 am
basically the same sportster that I have. I actually just said no to R40k for it, wanting R45k.
But this is not me complaining that I will still have it.

Mine has a new engine, previous one changed at 80k km. Some oil starvation issue. I would rate it pretty solid wrt reliability
They are also some of the first ones with rubber engine mountings, so infamous vibrations addressed.
Mine has a proper setup carb, starts first time even if it was sitting for a month. Gets 22kmpl at 140kmph, better than any big adventure bike.

And no one will believe you that you paid only R40k for it.

But yes, breaks and suspension is shit. I guess everything is relative though. I see it as an old muscle car, they are average fast, crap handling and braking, but great raw fun. Same with this bike. Every ride is an event.

apparently this one is fuel injected..what model is yours ?

Just saw this

https://advrider.com/f/threads/bad-sportster-years.567394/

got rubber engine mounts in 2004 and FI in 2006, mine is a 2005 iirc
But, with engine failure it got a totalled 2013 engine fitted, it was my stepfather's bike which is mechanically very handy, he transferred engine internals and decided to keep the carbs as you can get it to idle slower than with a FI.
so my 1200 custom is very custom.

Interestingly (or obviously) the 2013 engine gearbox was also a lot better, less chunky/notchy or GS-like. Straight cut gears vs whatever the new type is. Had that internals in as well but the speedsensor pickup was screwed, could not really get the bike to show a sensible speed reading, so went back to original gearbox.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2020, 10:05:13 am
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.

Tell me about a 2005 Night Train?   There's one for sale and god it's a good looking bike.   I've heard the Softails dont handle as well as the Dynas though?

Night train is a great looking bike. Handling wise, I don’t like any softail pre 2013. The handling will not be great, but that of course is personal opinion although quit well known. There are guys that ride way older softail, that rave about them. The whole ‘braking’ argument is a load of rubbish, you have to compare apples with apples, you cannot compare a dual sport/ super bike braking characteristics to a Harley, so I’m not going to comment on that. My dyna is a great bike to ride, braking needs to be planned, but if need be and you have the  know how, can be stopped ASAP. My roadglides  braking is better than my ktm990’s, with a pillion and 35kgs of luggage, bearing in mind it almost weighs double. At the end of the day, the argument of Harley’s being bad rides is antiquated, take some of the new 2019/2020 bikes for a spin, and your eyes will be opened, just give them a chance, they are completely different to any dual sport bike.
If you are interested in buying a Harley, I suggest you pick the model you looking at, and watch ‘Matt laidlaws’ review on the model on YouTube, he gives a very accurate view of the entire bike, from aesthetics to handling, and he has huge experience with the brand.


There is merit in the "poor handling" argument against Harleys, but I do agree that you must compare apples to apples.  It is firstly and unashamedly cruisers and tourers, and to compare stopping and handling

to bikes with twice the power is not clever. The Harleys will often also be twice as heavy, and weight is a prerequisite for a good cruiser, or even tourer. You do not want to bob about like the guy on the R1.
Title: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lord Knormoer on March 05, 2020, 11:08:27 am
basically the same sportster that I have. I actually just said no to R40k for it, wanting R45k.
But this is not me complaining that I will still have it.

Mine has a new engine, previous one changed at 80k km. Some oil starvation issue. I would rate it pretty solid wrt reliability
They are also some of the first ones with rubber engine mountings, so infamous vibrations addressed.
Mine has a proper setup carb, starts first time even if it was sitting for a month. Gets 22kmpl at 140kmph, better than any big adventure bike.

And no one will believe you that you paid only R40k for it.

But yes, breaks and suspension is shit. I guess everything is relative though. I see it as an old muscle car, they are average fast, crap handling and braking, but great raw fun. Same with this bike. Every ride is an event.
This reminds me of when my wife decided to buy an old custom Sportster because apparently girls, especially tiny girls weighing 45kg, cannot ride motorcycles.

The first time I rode it, with her on the back, we went for a short breakfast run. All calm and cruiser like, enjoying the sound of the engine and a beautiful sunny Sunday morning.

On the way back I decided to see what the old girl will do on a straight and pushed a little. Keep in mind that I had just completed a fun Saturday ride on the GS with linked ABS brakes.

I got up to about 145km/h when the light ahead changed to amber. Still completely relaxed I eased off the throttle and applied a little front brake. Nothing happened and with a little more urgency I added the back brake and more front. At this stage I could not discern if the brakes had any impact over the engine compression and realized we may reach a standstill about 200m beyond the light.

With a busy crossing nearing rapidly, I applied everything in me to both brakes, geared down a few times and with a little more panic than before, asked the motorcycle gods to intervene.

We finally stopped with my heart in my throat and a little tremor reaching my fingertips while my wife, used to me hitting the ABS hard on the GS, was none the wiser.

We had many great Sunday rides on EVA but I learnt quickly that the 883 is not about speed, any uneven surface should be avoided with pillion and slow and steady with an open face helmet makes for a most enjoyable ride.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on March 05, 2020, 11:22:36 am
Haha Yeah :biggrin:

I went for a spin with my brother out to the Harties area, and we swapped bikes on the way home for a while. I decided to see what the Harley could do and got it up to 140km/h but it didn't seem to have much more left to give at that point haha.

Also what seemed like a perfectly good road on the KTM on the way out, had turned into one long rumble strip of uneven-ness on the Harley on the way back :laughing4: :laughing4:   What suspension? :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 05, 2020, 11:58:15 am
just a note, dont know what you guys rode, the only reason you don't do 180kmph for the full day on a 1200 sportster is because the wind is crap.
The bike gets there quick enough with room to spare. 160 with pillion is also not asking much, while still returning good mileage.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lord Knormoer on March 05, 2020, 11:09:08 pm
just a note, dont know what you guys rode, the only reason you don't do 180kmph for the full day on a 1200 sportster is because the wind is crap.
The bike gets there quick enough with room to spare. 160 with pillion is also not asking much, while still returning good mileage.
Sure, the old 883 had more in her but after that first incident I was much more cautious in town.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 13, 2020, 01:43:42 pm
I just bought a roadster...

So I can look badass at 30 mph and all the ladies will go gaga over me. Bad ass looking hombre on a bad ass scoot is just the business.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BullFrog on March 13, 2020, 03:01:13 pm
This reminds me of when my wife decided to buy an old custom Sportster because apparently girls, especially tiny girls weighing 45kg, cannot ride motorcycles.

The first time I rode it, with her on the back, we went for a short breakfast run. All calm and cruiser like, enjoying the sound of the engine and a beautiful sunny Sunday morning.

On the way back I decided to see what the old girl will do on a straight and pushed a little. Keep in mind that I had just completed a fun Saturday ride on the GS with linked ABS brakes.

I got up to about 145km/h when the light ahead changed to amber. Still completely relaxed I eased off the throttle and applied a little front brake. Nothing happened and with a little more urgency I added the back brake and more front. At this stage I could not discern if the brakes had any impact over the engine compression and realized we may reach a standstill about 200m beyond the light.

With a busy crossing nearing rapidly, I applied everything in me to both brakes, geared down a few times and with a little more panic than before, asked the motorcycle gods to intervene.

We finally stopped with my heart in my throat and a little tremor reaching my fingertips while my wife, used to me hitting the ABS hard on the GS, was none the wiser.

We had many great Sunday rides on EVA but I learnt quickly that the 883 is not about speed, any uneven surface should be avoided with pillion and slow and steady with an open face helmet makes for a most enjoyable ride.

Thanks LK!!!! This was kak funny!!!

I just visualize this whole scenario in sort of slomo....
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lem on March 13, 2020, 04:39:45 pm
I just bought a roadster...

So I can look badass at 30 mph and all the ladies will go gaga over me. Bad ass looking hombre on a bad ass scoot is just the business.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Clockwork Orange on March 13, 2020, 06:09:13 pm
I just bought a roadster...

So I can look badass at 30 mph and all the ladies will go gaga over me. Bad ass looking hombre on a bad ass scoot is just the business.
Enjoy the new bike :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 13, 2020, 08:21:58 pm
I just bought a roadster...

So I can look badass at 30 mph and all the ladies will go gaga over me. Bad ass looking hombre on a bad ass scoot is just the business.
Enjoy the new bike :thumleft:

Thanks, I pick it up tomorrow in the rain and ride from Reading. Boerie roll at Hot rock with onions and a creme soda. Life could be worse,
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Clockwork Orange on March 16, 2020, 10:06:46 am
I just bought a roadster...

So I can look badass at 30 mph and all the ladies will go gaga over me. Bad ass looking hombre on a bad ass scoot is just the business.
Enjoy the new bike :thumleft:

Cant beat the Hot Rock boerrie roll :thumleft:

Thanks, I pick it up tomorrow in the rain and ride from Reading. Boerie roll at Hot rock with onions and a creme soda. Life could be worse,
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 16, 2020, 12:27:03 pm
enjoy! post some pics?

I have a rattle to sort out then I will be advertising mine as well. Wont be as big a bargain as the one in the first comment though.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 16, 2020, 01:31:00 pm
Its a lot more compact than one would think being a harley. Wife insists on a sissy bar now.

Its unlike any other bike i have ever ridden, its engaging and enjoyable and i guess thats why we ride bikes. Also unlikely to lose my licence on the harley .

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 16, 2020, 01:36:20 pm
Very lekker congrats man

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 16, 2020, 01:37:40 pm
that looks great. congrats ICM
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: windswept on March 16, 2020, 02:01:49 pm
ICM. what are the cops like with loud pipes in the UK?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Clockwork Orange on March 16, 2020, 02:46:33 pm
Awesome, enjoy the new scoot. Let me know when you feel like a little ride out :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: >>Thump°C on March 16, 2020, 03:26:58 pm
https://www.facebook.com/StoneMJ/media_set?set=a.10157216738101645&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/StoneMJ/media_set?set=a.10157216738101645&type=3)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 16, 2020, 03:39:53 pm
ICM. what are the cops like with loud pipes in the UK?

Well. We have cameras for speed and they implementing noise detectors too. Over the db reading and you will get a surprise in the post. If yr bike is excessively loud you probably would be stopped an get a talking to.  My mate has Vance an Hines pipes on his Harley an it’s plenty loud but still passes MOT and is road legal

I have never been stopped by a cop here. Never see roadblocks  but if you misbehave or drive erratically there are unmarked cars that will stop you. And we have cameras. In my town there are 2. Seldom a mobile speed trap.

Me, any points on my licence an insurance goes up. Being a contractor I can’t afford to lose my licence. I tend to play by the rules. Still take the odd chance but it’s more carefully done
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 19, 2020, 07:03:09 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 19, 2020, 07:52:10 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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pictures????


if you dont mind...for how much?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 19, 2020, 08:03:45 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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pictures????


if you dont mind...for how much?
Will take some pics tomorrow.  50k

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Manic on March 19, 2020, 11:52:15 pm
Some lekker riding gear for you Harley ladies.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 20, 2020, 06:32:30 am
Some lekker riding gear for you Harley ladies.
Haha lol

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on March 20, 2020, 11:01:59 am
Some lekker riding gear for you Harley ladies.

Aggeneeee Manic, nou word ek jas.... pasop, ek gaan nou browse vir n Harley!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tyre kicker on March 20, 2020, 07:28:27 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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pictures????


if you dont mind...for how much?
Will take some pics tomorrow.  50k

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From a dealer or private?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 20, 2020, 07:32:23 pm
Done about 250 miles on my harley now in 5 days....beginning to enjoy it a lot...once you realise what it is and make peace with that its a hoot....

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 20, 2020, 07:34:12 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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pictures????


if you dont mind...for how much?
Will take some pics tomorrow.  50k

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From a dealer or private?
Pvt sale. Did a service today and started polishing all the chrome. It's really mint. Very chuffed

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 20, 2020, 07:35:23 pm
Done about 250 miles on my harley now in 5 days....beginning to enjoy it a lot...once you realise what it is and make peace with that its a hoot....
Yea they pretty fun, enjoying mine now a lot. Also quite lekker to work on, easy to service.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2020, 08:06:41 pm
Some lekker riding gear for you Harley ladies.

This is at KTM, new range of 790 tank protectors.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wolweseun on March 23, 2020, 10:00:25 am
@Knucklehead

If you are interested, I have one that you can take for a ride

I dont like it and think it is a piece of shit
It has no brakes, no suspension, handles like a pig in fact the only thing I like about it is the torque

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: elandsrider on March 23, 2020, 10:19:52 am
@knucklehead

If you are interested, I have one that you can take for a ride

I dont like it and think it is a piece of shit
It has no brakes, no suspension, handles like a pig in fact the only thing I like about it is the torque
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 23, 2020, 12:16:54 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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pictures????


if you dont mind...for how much?
Will take some pics tomorrow.  50k

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That's a very very good price....
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 23, 2020, 12:25:38 pm
Got mine today. A 1200 sportster custom with 2300km on. 2009 model. Really neat. Lots of fun.

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pictures????


if you dont mind...for how much?
Will take some pics tomorrow.  50k

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That's a very very good price....
Yea I know, insurance was surprised too. Needs a new battery I have discovered.  Otherwise seems good.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 23, 2020, 12:37:56 pm
still no pics though
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 23, 2020, 12:40:58 pm
still no pics though
Eish sorry waiting on new battery, cant be bothered to push it around.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 23, 2020, 01:05:35 pm
still no pics though
Eish sorry waiting on new battery, cant be bothered to push it around.

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Its good exercise and important to get ready for harley ownership  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 23, 2020, 01:10:24 pm
still no pics though
Eish sorry waiting on new battery, cant be bothered to push it around.

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Its good exercise and important to get ready for harley ownership  :imaposer:
Haha ffs I see so

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roxtar on March 23, 2020, 01:31:42 pm
@knucklehead
I dont like it and think it is a piece of shit
It has no brakes, no suspension, handles like a pig in fact the only thing I like about it is the torque

Also sums up my experience on one nicely.... :thumleft: :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roxtar on March 23, 2020, 01:32:57 pm
Some lekker riding gear for you Harley ladies.

This is at KTM, new range of 790 tank protectors.

Now you just begging for a fark off Dan..... lets stay focused on the Harleys please…. :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 23, 2020, 01:35:44 pm
@knucklehead

If you are interested, I have one that you can take for a ride

I dont like it and think it is a piece of shit
It has no brakes, no suspension, handles like a pig in fact the only thing I like about it is the torque

Us HArley riders are not the descendants of fearful men hey....
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 28, 2020, 04:13:40 pm
Eventually got to the pics!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/a8777926084caef5e9b8b1dfbd3c9cc5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/8c1f93983544366cd7484ae108906bf7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/9504fca2aeab7c5bf48c86df062d03fb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tyre kicker on March 28, 2020, 04:25:34 pm
It looks damn good!!

How is she in your opinion?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 28, 2020, 04:26:34 pm
It looks damn good!!

How is she in your opinion?
Very fun to ride. Love the torque. Love the sound.

Very chuffed so far!

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 28, 2020, 04:36:14 pm
Mooi

My wife will no longer come on the harley till i get a sissy bar....which is fair i guess.

I also bought a tool roll for my harley...now i reckon i look like a cowboy with my leather tool roll riding around the suburbs..increases ones coolness factor immeasurably for relatively little money
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on March 28, 2020, 04:48:55 pm
That's great Luke!
Its basically exactly the same as mine, similar extras as well, mine is just matt black.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wayne on March 28, 2020, 05:43:34 pm
Nice looking Harley

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on March 28, 2020, 07:28:38 pm
My deal gone south with this covid story, kept cash in cash i need it  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Odd Dog on March 29, 2020, 02:56:41 am
Nice bike and a bargain to boot.  8)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tyre kicker on March 29, 2020, 04:48:00 pm
It looks damn good!!

How is she in your opinion?
Very fun to ride. Love the torque. Love the sound.

Very chuffed so far!

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Excellent!! :thumleft:

Where does one start looking to find these kind of deals?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on March 29, 2020, 05:20:44 pm
It looks damn good!!

How is she in your opinion?
Very fun to ride. Love the torque. Love the sound.

Very chuffed so far!

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Excellent!! :thumleft:

Where does one start looking to find these kind of deals?
Gumtree....not sure how I did it, think I was just lucky. I moved quickly once I found it though.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on March 29, 2020, 06:56:20 pm
Yes.

Setup an alert so you get an email as soon as a bike meeting your criteria is listed.
That way you know about it asap & don't have to browse through pages & pages of crap .
Then phone chop-chop.

Times are hard, okes are getting desperate & their toys are being sold off relatively cheaply.
Sad but that's life.

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tyre kicker on March 30, 2020, 10:57:22 am
Yes.

Setup an alert so you get an email as soon as a bike meeting your criteria is listed.
That way you know about it asap & don't have to browse through pages & pages of crap .
Then phone chop-chop.

Times are hard, okes are getting desperate & their toys are being sold off relatively cheaply.
Sad but that's life.
Is this alert set up on gumtree?

Please elaborate how as I am Before Computers. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on March 30, 2020, 11:30:54 am
Yes, you do it from Gumtree.
Start a search.
Filter it by all the criteria you require eg : region,price, model, km etc etc etc
Save the search.
If you've set up your Gumtree settings correctly you will now be notified every time an item that meets your criteria is listed.

I have it sending an email to my gmail account & I have my gmail setup on my phone.
The email has links to the adverts which you can click to be taken straight to the ad.
Although not really necessary,  also have the Gumtree app on my phone.
As soon as I get a notification I can check the ad there & then & phone straightaway if necessary.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Manic on March 31, 2020, 02:17:49 pm
My deal gone south with this covid story, kept cash in cash i need it  :thumleft:

Se eerder jou pelle het jou soveel kak gegee, dit jy moes dit maar los  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 31, 2020, 02:26:24 pm
Got me a Harley Davidson motor company T shirt cos one has to have the t shirt ...right?

Did not get an official one that runs at 40 quid, got a knock off for a tenner. froot of the loom brand so good quality.

Also got a harley Tool bag...now i look pielle ....proper harley badass rider me.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Odd Dog on March 31, 2020, 04:29:48 pm
Got me a Harley Davidson motor company T shirt cos one has to have the t shirt ...right?

Did not get an official one that runs at 40 quid, got a knock off for a tenner. froot of the loom brand so good quality.

Also got a harley Tool bag...now i look pielle ....proper harley hardass rider me.


I think that's what you meant.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 31, 2020, 04:46:28 pm
Current motorcycle rider research has shown that Harley riders are the only breakers of the lock-down.

Poor okes just could not make home quicker.

 :pot:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Manic on March 31, 2020, 11:09:27 pm
Studies het bewys dat 90% van alle Harleys is nog op die pad.
Die ander 10% is darem al by die huis.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 12, 2020, 11:19:12 am
https://www.rideapart.com/articles/420945/stuff-harley-sportster-owners-say/

Us sportster owners are a sensitive bunch it appears.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: >>Thump°C on May 12, 2020, 11:36:43 am
He took a lot of effort to talk a lot of kak, LOL
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 15, 2020, 02:39:53 pm
Some lekker riding gear for you Harley ladies.

hahaha loved this.....when i saw this harley post i knew i needed to go have a chuckle

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 15, 2020, 03:20:18 pm
not that im an expert on all things harley but my ten cents

I started on a VRod...... at the time wanted something that looks more like i could relate......not an old mans boney
 it was a very fast and tall gears......purists said it wasnt a genuine harley as it was water cooled and designed in conjunction with porche......i didnt really care

problem was i wanted to ride further than garage to garage as they have very small tanks

i imported a bigger tank and my dad and i literally stripped the VRod in half and fitted a bigger tank

then i bought a VRod Mussel...... rode  that one from JHB to West Coast Rally in Partenoster.........everyone shook my wife's hand thinking we were nuts to ride pillion that far on the bike

On this rally/ride my Dad took his 1200 sporty ..........to me this bike is for a small person and ok for town not really a bike you do cross country.........yet my olman did a few trips around the country on his sporty.....

hey people ride around the world on posty bikes

After the VRod Mussel
sanity prevailed in the Harley Department and i bought a more user friendly tourer the Road King
great bike for town and  open road touring

I see some one mentioned on here the 88 cube motor was an issue
my dad had a street glide because it has low seat hight .....we bought it for him then we converted it to a trike it was a 88 cube and with the extra wheel this trike rode around SA a few times ...no shit at all
we did to his point replace the cam chain tensioners at around 80000 km for a few grand

i love Harleys although lately not impressed with reliability issues ....... i have had a few Harleys  (11 to be exact)

the sporty is definitely an entry into the brand model and if you do like the taste of harley you will most likely upgrade as someone said earlier .......my olman went from sporty to street glide to trike

in harley world they say all roads lead to a couch which is the tourer bikes.....i currently have a Road King and a CVO Ultra Limited

when i met my wife i was riding adventure bikes and she asked me if i would ever ride a harley

my answer was "over my dead body"......

today i have harley tats and have ridden around 200 000km on harleys since 2006 when i started riding them
this includes 4 trips across America

truth be told riding a harley is like an addiction and theres definitely an attitude to them
when i get on mine and ride away.. that sound........makes me feel  f@#$% the world
no other bike has given me that feeling

Owning/Riding Harleys has been the most fun i have had with my clothes on
I have also met the most amazing and interesting people on Harleys

40K for a sporty is cheap i do think you will outgrow it soon

as for the 750 or entry level harleys they recently introduced.......to me they are the ugliest bikes ever ....have no idea how they can think those will entice new people into the brand
the fatboys
and the soft tail slims are nice to me

lots of folks buy cheaper sporties then customise them ive seen some nice customs......this may be an option
not everyone wants a bulky tourer
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 15, 2020, 03:44:06 pm
Great post!

Since having my sporty I get what you saying about other bikes not giving you the same feeling. I'm now wondering if I should sell my adventure bike and buy a more touring friendly Harley. I really like the look of the Road king! Although the Low rider S also does it for me.

I don't think I will resist another one very long!

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 15, 2020, 03:56:53 pm
this was my softail slim it is low loud and single seater not very practical..........plenty of guts

made me smile everytime i rode it........

sold this and my aircooled gs to buy the new 1250 gsa

it was a fun town bike but i had to choose as i already had two other harleys i enjoyed


but this was a machine.........oh yes and the brakes were shit ...........
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 15, 2020, 04:05:23 pm
this is my current collection

the red skull is my Road King it has a special paint set limited edition number 48/200 and i bought it for my 50th..........use it as a town bike currently have around 35000km on it

the maroon harley is my ultimate tourer its a 2019 CVO Ultra limited has all the bells and whistles ................love this bike but in Feb at 10800km  had a set back with reliability issues and the bike is currently at Harley Dealer awaiting a warranty repair with the engine.........as i mentioned in earlier post not happy with harleys issues on reliability........luckily the dealer is sorting it out under warranty

then the 1250 GSA....what to say an absolute brilliant bike love this machine.........hehe but its still not a harley ;)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 15, 2020, 04:14:50 pm
Very nice man!

Tell me do you work on your own bikes as well? One thing I have been pleasantly surprised with on the sporty is how easy everything is to do. Sensibly designed with DIY in mind it seems. I can even do most things with my normal sized hands....my jap cars and bike could learn some tips here.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 15, 2020, 04:45:53 pm
Very nice man!

Tell me do you work on your own bikes as well? One thing I have been pleasantly surprised with on the sporty is how easy everything is to do. Sensibly designed with DIY in mind it seems. I can even do most things with my normal sized hands....my jap cars and bike could learn some tips here.

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do the service on my road king the ultra is under warranty.....i make a project of it its fun and theres lots of good technical advice on harleys from the states to googly

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 15, 2020, 05:26:12 pm
Very nice man!

Tell me do you work on your own bikes as well? One thing I have been pleasantly surprised with on the sporty is how easy everything is to do. Sensibly designed with DIY in mind it seems. I can even do most things with my normal sized hands....my jap cars and bike could learn some tips here.

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do the service on my road king the ultra is under warranty.....i make a project of it its fun and theres lots of good technical advice on harleys from the states to googly
Lekker, yea Delboys Garage is particularly good.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 15, 2020, 08:29:18 pm
Mother you are making me conflicted.
I am selling my sportster, guy is coming to get it tomorrow. The bike has been almost like family, 85000km on it. But I have not been doing it justice, its just standing.

Agree with your posts, its just something else. sad moment for us
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 16, 2020, 08:31:00 am
Mother you are making me conflicted.
I am selling my sportster, guy is coming to get it tomorrow. The bike has been almost like family, 85000km on it. But I have not been doing it justice, its just standing.

Agree with your posts, its just something else. sad moment for us

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 16, 2020, 08:36:50 am
my First Harley
bought this VRod new in 2006.........loved this bike ......only problem is they have very small tanks and you end up riding from garage to garage

bike has a very much drag bike feel........
used to race my mate shaun on his KTM 950.........hehehe he can tell you how this bike did.....goes like a bat out of hell

today you can pick them up fairly cheap as they been discontinued by harley and many owners dont put too many km on them......they come in a few versions ie  night rod etc
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 16, 2020, 08:42:33 am
longest distance i did on my VRod Mussel was from Pretoria to Partenoster with my dad
we took the scenic route to first through eastern freestate to Graaf Reinett then Beaufort West back to Victoria West and down to the coast via Calvinia

You will see my dad carried a jerry can on his bike for petrol for me

everyone at the West coast rally was amazed that my wife road pillion all the way ...... O0
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 16, 2020, 08:49:15 am
we upgraded the olman to a street glide for touring it was a big upgrade from the sportster....... he is short and small built .....the street glide has one of the lower seat hights in this class

so it was a good transition for him ..........

this is the 88 cubic inch motor never gave us a days shit........at around 80 000 km it got noisy and we changed the cam tensioners and chains and all was great again
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 16, 2020, 08:57:15 am
long story short as the olman got older we thought it would be in everyones interest to add a third wheel

this was way before harley brought in the official trike to its line up

we had a guy Nico from Exotic Designs in Pretoria do a custom trike for the olman

he came with a great reputation and i will recommend him any day......he specialises in trike conversions .......back then he was recommended to me by harley jhb

so we took the olmans street glide and converted it to this magnificent beast

the olman impressed and rode this bike all around the country until he retired last year at 83

ps sold it to a chap from jhb who flew to cape town and promptly rode it back .......
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wayne on May 16, 2020, 10:20:15 am
Your Dad's trike is really awesome.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 16, 2020, 02:01:57 pm
Just back from a ride on my sporty. Happy again now.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on May 16, 2020, 03:57:12 pm
Great thread this! Opening up a whole new world for me as I know jack about Harleys. Guys, please add pictures of the models you have ... it’s like a new language that I am keen to hear about.

 8)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on May 16, 2020, 04:44:25 pm
Happy again for now.

Fixed that for you, because a fix only lasts until the next one is needed  ;)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 16, 2020, 04:57:24 pm
Happy again for now.

Fixed that for you, because a fix only lasts until the next one is needed  ;)
Haha yip probably tomorrow ;)

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 16, 2020, 04:58:47 pm
Great thread this! Opening up a whole new world for me as I know jack about Harleys. Guys, please add pictures of the models you have ... it’s like a new language that I am keen to hear about.

 8)
See post 84 for mine.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 16, 2020, 05:12:36 pm
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: frankmac on May 16, 2020, 05:40:42 pm
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Beaut. How did you get it up that step?  :)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 16, 2020, 06:13:22 pm
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Beaut. How did you get it up that step?  :)
There is a small Ramp to the left. ;D :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 09:25:22 am
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

that is a beautiful bike
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 09:48:48 am
i know this is not everyones cup of tea......not mine either

but there is always something to ride for everyone

my mate has a garage full of harleys........its his thing he has worked hard over the years came from a poor kid to a very successful businessman...

he is harley mad

he recently acquired this CVO trike..........

for those that dont know a CVO is the custom side of harley they throw lots of upgrades at the bike... motor.....bling.......then slap a mother of a price on it (custom vehicle operation)

its all about budget and choice

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lem on May 17, 2020, 10:11:24 am
i know this is not everyones cup of tea......not mine either

but there is always something to ride for everyone

my mate has a garage full of harleys........its his thing he has worked hard over the years came from a poor kid to a very successful businessman...

he is harley mad

he recently acquired this CVO trike..........

for those that dont know a CVO is the custom side of harley they throw lots of upgrades at the bike... motor.....bling.......then slap a mother of a price on it (custom vehicle operation)

its all about budget and choice

Chris, does your mate work for Checkers? Either Gerhard or Andrew by name if I'm correct?

if so, his parking bay is next to my brother's one. My boet hates motorcycles and fights with me endlessly for liking & riding them, but he sends me a pic of his colleague's different Harley every day (because I know he admires them secretly). I think he has around 24 of them and rides a different one every day?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lem on May 17, 2020, 10:13:44 am
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

There is just something really badass about the lines of the Softail Deuce. It's that flat rear fender. Back in November 1999 I was in high school an the day after my final exam in standerd 9 I had to go into surgery on my jaws. My brother bought me the December/January issue of Bike SA and on the Softail Deuce was on the cover.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 10:43:11 am
i know this is not everyones cup of tea......not mine either

but there is always something to ride for everyone

my mate has a garage full of harleys........its his thing he has worked hard over the years came from a poor kid to a very successful businessman...

he is harley mad

he recently acquired this CVO trike..........

for those that dont know a CVO is the custom side of harley they throw lots of upgrades at the bike... motor.....bling.......then slap a mother of a price on it (custom vehicle operation)

its all about budget and choice

Chris, does your mate work for Checkers? Either Gerhard or Andrew by name if I'm correct?

if so, his parking bay is next to my brother's one. My boet hates motorcycles and fights with me endlessly for liking & riding them, but he sends me a pic of his colleague's different Harley every day (because I know he admires them secretly). I think he has around 24 of them and rides a different one every day?

hahaha small world ........he has about 14 i think not 24

i will try find a pic of his man cave its a thing of beauty
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 10:54:12 am
i took harleys electric bike for a spin not so long ago

it was freakishly fast.......just twist open the throttle and u are gone.........some thing like 0 to 100 km in 3 seconds      it was unbelievable and smooth

very expensive for a 200km range hear its about 300k plus

no noise just a slight throbbing sound

it took a bit getting used to with no gears and no clutch

also its a small motorcycle way too small for me.........

hear things like they wont be for sales here in SA more just to promote

anyway im still more the petrol head
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 11:04:34 am
if you love harley u will love this garage


every time i go here i tend to drool just a bit...........

have had the privilege of riding them all ....


my favourite is the ......Breakout
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 11:20:39 am
long story short as the olman got older we thought it would be in everyones interest to add a third wheel

this was way before harley brought in the official trike to its line up

we had a guy Nico from Exotic Designs in Pretoria do a custom trike for the olman

he came with a great reputation and i will recommend him any day......he specialises in trike conversions .......back then he was recommended to me by harley jhb

so we took the olmans street glide and converted it to this magnificent beast

the olman impressed and rode this bike all around the country until he retired last year at 83

ps sold it to a chap from jhb who flew to cape town and promptly rode it back .......


this was the inspiration for the colour scheme on my dads trike its based on this 2011 street glide CVO

just loved the mix or colour
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 17, 2020, 11:30:47 am
i took harleys electric bike for a spin not so long ago

it was freakishly fast.......just twist open the throttle and u are gone.........some thing like 0 to 100 km in 3 seconds      it was unbelievable and smooth

very expensive for a 200km range hear its about 300k plus

no noise just a slight throbbing sound

it took a bit getting used to with no gears and no clutch

also its a small motorcycle way too small for me.........

hear things like they wont be for sales here in SA more just to promote

anyway im still more the petrol head

I took a demo ride on one. Ungodly quick for a Harley. 100 mile range. 30 000 quid. About R700k. Insanely expensive. Can’t see to many sales at that price. Local Harley dealer got a charger outside dealership. Drive up an plug in.

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 11:39:24 am
one of my favourite harleys is the Breakout.........love the chrome the rims and the rear tyre.......the whole stance of the bike


its definitely not a bike you will ride across country

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 17, 2020, 12:01:26 pm
Your Old Man is Cool. 8)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 17, 2020, 12:03:20 pm
one thing nice about harleys they make nice project bikes to custom

this is an old road king my mate had customised into an army bike

work was done by caves customs
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Dorsland on May 17, 2020, 12:40:09 pm
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Eendag as ek groot is.  Bliksem, dis mooi daai!  Die kleur is ook pragtig.  Wat kan jy vertel oor daai dryfbelt @Offshore? Stil, lang lewe?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Dorsland on May 17, 2020, 12:41:36 pm
one thing nice about harleys they make nice project bikes to custom

this is an old road king my mate had customised into an army bike

work was done by caves customs

Very nice Mother, like the red spot and the matching siren.  Do they work?  Are those Volksie tyres?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 17, 2020, 01:23:36 pm
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Eendag as ek groot is.  Bliksem, dis mooi daai!  Die kleur is ook pragtig.  Wat kan jy vertel oor daai dryfbelt @Offshore? Stil, lang lewe?
Ek  hou baie van 'n Dryfbelt @Dorsland, hulle is stil en duursaam. Ek ry die Bike nou al 17 Jaar maar min Kilo's omdat dit nie 'n Tourer is nie. Op 30000 KM's is die Belt nog nie bros nie en ook nie gerek nie. Hulle se mos mos jy meet the nicest People on a Honda, maar ek kan oorvertel dat ek al meer as een keer by 'n Plek kuier en as ek vertrek klim daar n wildvreemde Vrou agter op. Ek moet bieg dat my Vrou meer van die Honda Mense hou. ;)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 17, 2020, 01:32:00 pm
Wow Mother, this is an eye-opener of a thread.

You tell a photo-story of real passion and enthusiasts.

Is Harley's not for posers only?

 :pot:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 17, 2020, 02:00:14 pm
Wow Mother, this is an eye-opener of a thread.

You tell a photo-story of real passion and enthusiasts.

Is Harley's not for posers only?

 :pot:

Indeed. This morning on my lil ride I rode extra slow through town so I could check myself out in the shop windows.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 17, 2020, 02:00:50 pm
Wow Mother, this is an eye-opener of a thread.

You tell a photo-story of real passion and enthusiasts.

Is Harley's not for posers only?

 :pot:

Indeed. This morning on my lil ride I rode extra slow through town so I could check myself out in the shop windows.
Hahahaha

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: jaybiker on May 17, 2020, 02:23:56 pm
I suppose I can see, in a way, what some people find attractive about Harleys, but for me they're just not my cuppa tea. They are too old fashioned, overweight and under powered.

Not at all like my 1150GS.  ;) :snorting: :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 17, 2020, 02:41:35 pm
Wow Mother, this is an eye-opener of a thread.

You tell a photo-story of real passion and enthusiasts.

Is Harley's not for posers only?

 :pot:

Indeed. This morning on my lil ride I rode extra slow through town so I could check myself out in the shop windows.

But I do that too, and I am only on a Yamaha. :ricky:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: subie on May 17, 2020, 04:06:32 pm
Beautifull bikes  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: hugh101 on May 17, 2020, 06:49:54 pm
https://youtu.be/EOwxxsPaogY

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on May 18, 2020, 02:46:52 am
Sorry chaps....

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: RedWolf on May 18, 2020, 07:31:37 am
About 5 years back, I decided to check what the Harley fuss was all about. I rode most of them and even me and Kykdaar went on a roadtrip with 2 of them.

I really struggled to like them because I was comparing them to my then KTM 990R in terms of suspension and power. They rode really hard and the only bike that I enjoyed in terms of comfort was the Roadking classic.

Harleys needs a complete mindset change before riding and buying them. If you buy them with your head, you will probably end up hating them. I mean why would you pay massive money for a slow, uncomfortable bike with almost no suspension? And then it vibrates the whole time and makes you tired riding any decent distance.

You buy a Harley with your heart. You either love them or you don't.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 07:45:31 am
one thing nice about harleys they make nice project bikes to custom

this is an old road king my mate had customised into an army bike

work was done by caves customs

Very nice Mother, like the red spot and the matching siren.  Do they work?  Are those Volksie tyres?

hi yes everything works......and the tyres are old school harley tyres hard to find but they are available
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: RedWolf on May 18, 2020, 07:47:03 am
Sorry chaps....


Die seun het bietjie huiswerk gedoen. Goeie video.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 07:47:10 am
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Eendag as ek groot is.  Bliksem, dis mooi daai!  Die kleur is ook pragtig.  Wat kan jy vertel oor daai dryfbelt @Offshore? Stil, lang lewe?
Ek  hou baie van 'n Dryfbelt @Dorsland, hulle is stil en duursaam. Ek ry die Bike nou al 17 Jaar maar min Kilo's omdat dit nie 'n Tourer is nie. Op 30000 KM's is die Belt nog nie bros nie en ook nie gerek nie. Hulle se mos mos jy meet the nicest People on a Honda, maar ek kan oorvertel dat ek al meer as een keer by 'n Plek kuier en as ek vertrek klim daar n wildvreemde Vrou agter op. Ek moet bieg dat my Vrou meer van die Honda Mense hou. ;)

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

net so
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 18, 2020, 07:54:03 am
Yissee man, that man-cave !
That to me, is paradise.
@Mother, your friend is a lucky,  lucky man.


One of my dad 's neighbours has got 20 odd Harleys & probably the same again of BMWs.
He doesn't have a setup like this though, his are just parked in a normal garage(s).
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 08:27:16 am
About 5 years back, I decided to check what the Harley fuss was all about. I rode most of them and even me and Kykdaar went on a roadtrip with 2 of them.

I really struggled to like them because I was comparing them to my then KTM 990R in terms of suspension and power. They rode really hard and the only bike that I enjoyed in terms of comfort was the Roadking classic.

Harleys needs a complete mindset change before riding and buying them. If you buy them with your head, you will probably end up hating them. I mean why would you pay massive money for a slow, uncomfortable bike with almost no suspension? And then it vibrates the whole time and makes you tired riding any decent distance.

You buy a Harley with your heart. You either love them or you don't.

i agree with the last comment and some of what you say......not that its a debate

let me explain

harley has a name brand lots of people i think aspire towards........

some reasons may be....

 its a dream to own a harley ....weather it was because of a sense of freedom it paints .......or financial achievement  or because it depicts an alternative to the system..... or even weather its the chrome and sound...or to own a status symbol because its been around for so long......or to own a connection with the original bikers from when harley started so many years ago.......even to own a piece of American legend

who knows each person has their own reasons


i think many people buy these bikes for posing reasons ...absolutely..........that is why you will pick up a bargain if you shop around second hand for a bike with no or little km on the clock........if you in cape town pop into metal heads and you will see bikes in new condition with absolutely no km on the dial...........i never get why people buy bikes like this and dont use them

i belong to a few harley forums in the states and when i tell the guys how many km i do on my CVO they surprised as this is seen there as a poser bike not a riders bike ........(Just a general observation)

this i guess is where the poser comes in.......the person with lots of cash has the desire to ride but is not really in his or hers blood so will take the bike on the odd occasion to show it off

also to Burps post and i havent even looked at it but i bet it goes down the lines

 harley have these big expensive motorcycles and all their riders are getting old so as they die so does the harley market
personally i dont think harley will ever die .....the brand is too strong.......

they have come close to losing the plot in the early years but there will be people to bail them out again......even in the future........maybe the new german ceo will come up with something.....ironic he is german

yes they need to get in line with suspension and handling and reliability.......have seen this improvement over the years but no where like it should be.....

i think if they want to entice younger riders they better get their act together as their entry level bikes are f#$% ugly

talk about comfort briefly

the most comfortable bike i have owned is the Harley Ulta limited tourer.....i have ridden from Cape Town to Pretoria in a day no problem
most of the comfort is from the big seat the ability to stretch ones legs because of highway pegs and the big screen protection
yes the shocks are not fantastic but they are adequate for the tar road

i used to own a bmw LT and once rode down to Montagu for thew weekend from Pretoria....the knee position killed me

also i have owned many motorcycles in my life ridden tons of km

ridden many uncomfortable bikes.....too

but for distance riding i get why they call the Ultra a Couch

and an absolute cruiser it is.... if thats what tickles your fancy..... :biggrin:

it does mine  O0
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 18, 2020, 08:39:57 am
turning into a great thread this. Please continue to share Mother?

My Harley was sold over the weekend, it really felt like saying goodbye to an old friend. I will get another if I ever move away from our small town in the middle of nowhere.

I agree that you need a different mindset when on a Harley. The suspension and brakes are not good, but the engine, and specifically the sound is epic. I have said so previously but its the closest I will ever get to tasting all, and more, of what a old school muscle car offers. That was my approach.


Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 18, 2020, 08:43:37 am
Wow Mother, this is an eye-opener of a thread.

You tell a photo-story of real passion and enthusiasts.

Is Harley's not for posers only?

 :pot:

Indeed. This morning on my lil ride I rode extra slow through town so I could check myself out in the shop windows.

But I do that too, and I am only on a Yamaha. :ricky:

But 2SD, with the Harley the decision to ride slow wasn't made for you..... :peepwall:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Dorsland on May 18, 2020, 08:53:03 am

Ek  hou baie van 'n Dryfbelt @Dorsland, hulle is stil en duursaam. Ek ry die Bike nou al 17 Jaar maar min Kilo's omdat dit nie 'n Tourer is nie. Op 30000 KM's is die Belt nog nie bros nie en ook nie gerek nie. Hulle se mos mos jy meet the nicest People on a Honda, maar ek kan oorvertel dat ek al meer as een keer by 'n Plek kuier en as ek vertrek klim daar n wildvreemde Vrou agter op. Ek moet bieg dat my Vrou meer van die Honda Mense hou. ;)

Is dit 'n Harley of 'n Hoover daai? :lol8:

Dis indrukwekkend daai myle op so 'n belt Offshore. Moet hy verstel word van tyd tot tyd?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Grunder on May 18, 2020, 09:07:03 am
 :pot:

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: the_BOBNOB on May 18, 2020, 09:18:18 am
:pot:



If you were to actually read the thread and not just troll you would see that it has been posted. Not even pages back - on the same page  :pot:

 :peepwall:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 09:31:44 am
:pot:





i have been to maggies diner to find out what riding motorcycles is all about  ;)      O0       O0


 :pot:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on May 18, 2020, 10:06:22 am
also to Burps post and i havent even looked at it ...

Go watch it Mother, interesting and unexpected, at least for me!

(Edited: Ah, I think you did  :thumleft: )

My guess is drastic downscaling, and with that becoming more exclusive hence even costlier, is perhaps their way to go.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 10:55:39 am
also to Burps post and i havent even looked at it ...

Go watch it Mother, interesting and unexpected, at least for me!

(Edited: Ah, I think you did  :thumleft: )

My guess is drastic downscaling, and with that becoming more exclusive hence even costlier, is perhaps their way to go.


i did .....hence the chirp about maggies diner and the purpose of riding as said by Peter Fonda at the end
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 18, 2020, 11:28:05 am
i have not read the whole thread ...i will just state those who know know … those who think they know think they know
i currently have 4 bikes … my drz suz.. my  1200gs adv and 2 x hd's ..one a 2014 ultra ltd with fongkong after market shocks n a lower screen so mrs don't buffet
i have a 98 softail custom that i bought new in 98 , still have, still ride,,chopped it into a bar hopper.
call me what u want ..i ride every day to commute, every weekend ..as many rallys as i can afford and on annual vacation we ride now theres no children to cart with. offroad is less n less due to obesity and arthritis but grayvel road i do . so if u or anyone else wanna call me a poser or whatever plse read my first sentence again

hd is a heart thing like Italian bikes (i rode ducati's in my youth) and heart thing well sint that what biking is all about
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wayne on May 18, 2020, 12:14:03 pm
Madmax that 98 custom is super cool.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 18, 2020, 01:00:07 pm
Madmax that 98 custom is super cool.

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originally looked like
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wayne on May 18, 2020, 01:02:09 pm
The after version is way better

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 04:05:53 pm
i have not read the whole thread ...i will just state those who know know … those who think they know think they know
i currently have 4 bikes … my drz suz.. my  1200gs adv and 2 x hd's ..one a 2014 ultra ltd with fongkong after market shocks n a lower screen so mrs don't buffet
i have a 98 softail custom that i bought new in 98 , still have, still ride,,chopped it into a bar hopper.
call me what u want ..i ride every day to commute, every weekend ..as many rallys as i can afford and on annual vacation we ride now theres no children to cart with. offroad is less n less due to obesity and arthritis but grayvel road i do . so if u or anyone else wanna call me a poser or whatever plse read my first sentence again

hd is a heart thing like Italian bikes (i rode ducati's in my youth) and heart thing well sint that what biking is all about
:thumleft:  :thumleft:

i think there are quiet a few of us on this forum that own a harley or two

being an adventure forum this can and will always be a contentious issue

 O0
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: bud500 on May 18, 2020, 04:15:17 pm
I am enjoying this thread. Have always been attracted to these bikes, never owned one but rented a few and test rode way too many.
Would prefer to have at least as many pics as talking in the thread though.... :lol8:

I have always maintained, you can have an adventure on any bike and it doesn't always have to include gravel riding.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 04:37:28 pm
im willing to share my experiences with a picture or two     O0   as i said before im not an expert on harleys ....... O0.....ive just owned a few over the years ......and i love harleys inspite of their short comings.........just on that many other makes have short comings too.....but we wont get into that......with lockdown theres lots of time to write or post

further more i love talking motorcycles or trips or anything bike related   O0

A very popular harley is the Streetglide Model i have owned one ........love the muscular bulldog appearance look with the low stance to the rear.....these models sell very well

its the model with the bat wing fairing and a sound system and no tour pack which is the "top box" on the rear......some folks fit removable ones so they can keep the look when doing town riding or not on tour

i dont know if its the rake or the bigger front tyre but this bike handles beautifully in the corners........i would almost like to say this was my best handling harley i owned

every year  they make a few changes here and there mostly good upgrades but the bikes keep the same or similar look

the colours seem to change and recently the blacked chrome look was in then the matt paint

i always advise my friends when wanting to buy a harley.........shop around buy second hand as you get low milage bikes where the original owner has taken a hit............you can get a few models ago for half the price of new model ones and the bike has probably done less than 10000 km

here is a beautiful street glide......not my picture (borrowed)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 04:45:11 pm
this is my dads street glide with the tourpack on

one can get so many optional extras on these bikes every year they brought out catalogues a few inches thick


only your budget held you back


this was a 2007  88 cube motor which we converted to a trike later on
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 04:52:55 pm
over the years some of you will know i used to ride a lot with my olman but last year at 84 he retired from biking


i used to own this black street glide.......was very nice harley.......lovely power and sound

it was a 96 cubic inch motor


they have come a way as my current CVO is a 117 cubic inch motor now
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 18, 2020, 04:57:18 pm
@Knucklhead

Hi man sorry i got carried away on your thread sorry for the hijack


its a harley thing when i saw the topic i just shared away....... :ricky:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 18, 2020, 06:01:33 pm
Mother is it you that do the regular iron butt rides?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 18, 2020, 07:24:41 pm
i have not read the whole thread ...i will just state those who know know … those who think they know think they know
i currently have 4 bikes … my drz suz.. my  1200gs adv and 2 x hd's ..one a 2014 ultra ltd with fongkong after market shocks n a lower screen so mrs don't buffet
i have a 98 softail custom that i bought new in 98 , still have, still ride,,chopped it into a bar hopper.
call me what u want ..i ride every day to commute, every weekend ..as many rallys as i can afford and on annual vacation we ride now theres no children to cart with. offroad is less n less due to obesity and arthritis but grayvel road i do . so if u or anyone else wanna call me a poser or whatever plse read my first sentence again

hd is a heart thing like Italian bikes (i rode ducati's in my youth) and heart thing well sint that what biking is all about
:thumleft:  :thumleft:

i think there are quiet a few of us on this forum that own a harley or two

being an adventure forum this can and will always be a contentious issue

 O0

Why? Lots of guys on here owns a roadbike, and anyway, for me bikes are all interesting. If there were only GS1250 available and no other bikes, I'd be on a GS. Or an R1, or SR250.

I also like teasing, but Harleys is the stuff of legend, the bikes we first were told stories of by Dads or uncles. And despite brilliant Japanese cruisers, Harley will always be the original.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on May 18, 2020, 11:18:02 pm
Cool Bananas! Great info. Who knows, just maybe some day ...
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 07:58:10 am
riding hd is a mindset … going nowhere slowly describes it best … me vrou jump on the ultra ..ride 120 to wherever(longer trip) and arrive mostly same time as superbike ous for the overnight etc..reason less petrol time, less rest time cos more relaxed and comfortable …. stops become lot shorter cos u don't need so much rest
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 08:06:42 am
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.

Tell me about a 2005 Night Train?   There's one for sale and god it's a good looking bike.   I've heard the Softails dont handle as well as the Dynas though?

Night train is a great looking bike. Handling wise, I don’t like any softail pre 2013. The handling will not be great, but that of course is personal opinion although quit well known. There are guys that ride way older softail, that rave about them. The whole ‘braking’ argument is a load of rubbish, you have to compare apples with apples, you cannot compare a dual sport/ super bike braking characteristics to a Harley, so I’m not going to comment on that. My dyna is a great bike to ride, braking needs to be planned, but if need be and you have the  know how, can be stopped ASAP. My roadglides  braking is better than my ktm990’s, with a pillion and 35kgs of luggage, bearing in mind it almost weighs double. At the end of the day, the argument of Harley’s being bad rides is antiquated, take some of the new 2019/2020 bikes for a spin, and your eyes will be opened, just give them a chance, they are completely different to any dual sport bike.
If you are interested in buying a Harley, I suggest you pick the model you looking at, and watch ‘Matt laidlaws’ review on the model on YouTube, he gives a very accurate view of the entire bike, from aesthetics to handling, and he has huge experience with the brand.

riding my 98 softail ..especially when i was young and stupid with drag bars on bike ..i just drop knee into bend , obviously counter steer and have surprised many a squid in etv etc … hd can handle a bit u just need become one wif bike glasshopper (",) ..so above quote 100% keerect … i know im sounding my own trumpet here but many people have commented to me until i started believing it
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 08:09:42 am
Having owned 5 Harley’s...currently own two, I can tell you now, for a person with motorcycle experience, the sportster will get boring very quickly. It is Harley’s entry level series, and designed as exactly that.  I don’t know what your motorcycle  experience is, but anyone coming from a modern dual sport/ road bike back ground would be better off looking for a dyna or later model softail, early softail’ were terrible rides. I have owned a 2010 dyna since almost new, it was my first Harley, coming from ktm 990 and later bmw GS, can honestly say it will never be sold, fantastic bike to ride. If you are set on the sporty, R 40 k for that bike is reasonable.

Tell me about a 2005 Night Train?   There's one for sale and god it's a good looking bike.   I've heard the Softails dont handle as well as the Dynas though?

Night train is a great looking bike. Handling wise, I don’t like any softail pre 2013. The handling will not be great, but that of course is personal opinion although quit well known. There are guys that ride way older softail, that rave about them. The whole ‘braking’ argument is a load of rubbish, you have to compare apples with apples, you cannot compare a dual sport/ super bike braking characteristics to a Harley, so I’m not going to comment on that. My dyna is a great bike to ride, braking needs to be planned, but if need be and you have the  know how, can be stopped ASAP. My roadglides  braking is better than my ktm990’s, with a pillion and 35kgs of luggage, bearing in mind it almost weighs double. At the end of the day, the argument of Harley’s being bad rides is antiquated, take some of the new 2019/2020 bikes for a spin, and your eyes will be opened, just give them a chance, they are completely different to any dual sport bike.
If you are interested in buying a Harley, I suggest you pick the model you looking at, and watch ‘Matt laidlaws’ review on the model on YouTube, he gives a very accurate view of the entire bike, from aesthetics to handling, and he has huge experience with the brand.

guido quite correct re stopping and in late 90's early 2000's i was full of plans to put Brembo from older guzzis and even planned 2nd disk ..older pm catalogs had many calipers advertisded like 6 piston etc …. in the end my braking still stock and like he says once u know and plan etc ..works …...saying that in town i have had 1 or 2 stomach in mouth moments
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 19, 2020, 08:11:40 am
Mother is it you that do the regular iron butt rides?

no i dont particularly go for iron butt rides.........but i like to ride......and after riding across America in Miles you realize how small our country is ......

ridden Pretoria to Cape Town many times and vice versa.......used to love riding around the country with a few mates.......Pretoria Durban Cape Town or vice versa mostly the back roads where possible......obviously tar roads
my favourite bike to tour is the Harley Ultra it has all the comfort to cruise all day long

I have to say the highlights of biking in my life are the 4 Harley trips I did with my wife across the States

one of the Harley trips that stands out for me was the one I did with my wife a few years back....up through Namibia to Windhoek then Rundu then the Caprivi Strip to Katima then into Zambia and down to Livingston to see the Vic Falls then back into Botswana over the pontoon down to Francistown then Selebi Pikwe out at Martins Drift then back home to Cape Town via Pretoria Coleburg etc

that was an awesome ride

some pics

the shitty tar road from Katima to Livingston on Zambia side

finally arriving in Livingston

Harley in Africa tends to draw a crowd

on our way home over the Zambezi pontoon to Botswana
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 08:48:25 am
Its a lot more compact than one would think being a harley. Wife insists on a sissy bar now.

Its unlike any other bike i have ever ridden, its engaging and enjoyable and i guess thats why we ride bikes. Also unlikely to lose my licence on the harley .
very sweet looking ride … i like the looks ..sissy bar would really eff it
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 09:12:58 am
Mooi

My wife will no longer come on the harley till i get a sissy bar....which is fair i guess.

I also bought a tool roll for my harley...now i reckon i look like a cowboy with my leather tool roll riding around the suburbs..increases ones coolness factor immeasurably for relatively little money
tool roll on front works as a wind deflector.... indian larry my mentor always said ..form follows function
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 19, 2020, 09:21:37 am
Its a lot more compact than one would think being a harley. Wife insists on a sissy bar now.

Its unlike any other bike i have ever ridden, its engaging and enjoyable and i guess thats why we ride bikes. Also unlikely to lose my licence on the harley .
very sweet looking ride … i like the looks ..sissy bar would really eff it

I hear you but SWMBO insisted so sissy bar was a must.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Knucklhead on May 19, 2020, 10:00:56 am
@Knucklhead

Hi man sorry i got carried away on your thread sorry for the hijack


its a harley thing when i saw the topic i just shared away....... :ricky:

pls continue bud, baie mooi  :ricky:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 19, 2020, 10:28:35 am
i dont know about you but there is something nice about the same bikes hanging out together


its always been a beautiful sight to me


a few examples i have..........

whats nice is to see how each person individualises their bikes

this happens a lot in the harley world

there are tons of add ons and customising options
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 19, 2020, 10:35:48 am
and just like with all other bikes.... there are the guys that can ride these motorcycles at another level   :ricky:

i have personally seen the stunt riders doing some crazy stuff on these huge machines

unbelievable skills
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 10:49:55 am
i took harleys electric bike for a spin not so long ago

it was freakishly fast.......just twist open the throttle and u are gone.........some thing like 0 to 100 km in 3 seconds      it was unbelievable and smooth

very expensive for a 200km range hear its about 300k plus

no noise just a slight throbbing sound

it took a bit getting used to with no gears and no clutch

also its a small motorcycle way too small for me.........

hear things like they wont be for sales here in SA more just to promote

anyway im still more the petrol head
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as long as theres oil i wont go electric..big thing about it though is running costs..brakepads n tyres ..seems not much else till battery croaks
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 10:54:29 am
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Eendag as ek groot is.  Bliksem, dis mooi daai!  Die kleur is ook pragtig.  Wat kan jy vertel oor daai dryfbelt @Offshore? Stil, lang lewe?
Ek  hou baie van 'n Dryfbelt @Dorsland, hulle is stil en duursaam. Ek ry die Bike nou al 17 Jaar maar min Kilo's omdat dit nie 'n Tourer is nie. Op 30000 KM's is die Belt nog nie bros nie en ook nie gerek nie. Hulle se mos mos jy meet the nicest People on a Honda, maar ek kan oorvertel dat ek al meer as een keer by 'n Plek kuier en as ek vertrek klim daar n wildvreemde Vrou agter op. Ek moet bieg dat my Vrou meer van die Honda Mense hou. ;)
my fxstc ..130k on clock ..still original; belt
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 19, 2020, 10:59:30 am


as long as theres oil i wont go electric..big thing about it though is running costs..brakepads n tyres ..seems not much else till battery croaks
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agreed for me too....not into electric or green bike at this stage   8)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 19, 2020, 11:04:13 am
if you love all things biking and like to see whats out there from a harley site

i found these guys in the states and they turn Harleys into works of art


they are called .........Southeast Custom Cycles.........google them

their custom work makes my mouth water


look we can all dream i guess
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 19, 2020, 12:06:45 pm
My 2003 Deuce, what a Pleasure.

Eendag as ek groot is.  Bliksem, dis mooi daai!  Die kleur is ook pragtig.  Wat kan jy vertel oor daai dryfbelt @Offshore? Stil, lang lewe?
Ek  hou baie van 'n Dryfbelt @Dorsland, hulle is stil en duursaam. Ek ry die Bike nou al 17 Jaar maar min Kilo's omdat dit nie 'n Tourer is nie. Op 30000 KM's is die Belt nog nie bros nie en ook nie gerek nie. Hulle se mos mos jy meet the nicest People on a Honda, maar ek kan oorvertel dat ek al meer as een keer by 'n Plek kuier en as ek vertrek klim daar n wildvreemde Vrou agter op. Ek moet bieg dat my Vrou meer van die Honda Mense hou. ;)
my fxstc ..130k on clock ..still original; belt
That is amazing. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 19, 2020, 12:09:25 pm


as long as theres oil i wont go electric..big thing about it though is running costs..brakepads n tyres ..seems not much else till battery croaks

agreed for me too....not into electric or green bike at this stage   8)
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Mostly Tyres, as they have regenerative braking, so Brakepads will last much longer.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 19, 2020, 01:16:57 pm
and just like with all other bikes.... there are the guys that can ride these motorcycles at another level   :ricky:

i have personally seen the stunt riders doing some crazy stuff on these huge machines

unbelievable skills
what was that ou hd poached from bm or vice versa ..sarron Christian sarron or similar ..man that ou stunts
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 20, 2020, 07:27:50 am
a nut case
https://youtu.be/KOk7PSkHJsw
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 20, 2020, 07:38:07 am
on the subject of harley killed itself


some info and rumblings about the local market

all three the  dealerships Sandton , ClearWater and Pretoria Lynwwod road are closing /closed......

apparently a deal struck with Gold Rand Harley and there will be just one big Dealership around Midrand area in the future......will be interesting to see what this is

the owners of GoldRand and Cape Town Centre are one and the same......looks like they are heading for one owner is going to own the majority of dealerships in the country and this is the Indian fella from Springs who currently owns Cape Town Dealership

also hear the same dude has made a bid for Tygervalley


Harley SA is in for some interesting times
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 20, 2020, 08:14:00 am
Apparently Harley's rule that you may own no more than 3 dealerships.
If this is true, the Indian fellow from Springs can only buy/open1 more.

I was hoping Fire It Up! would look at taking over the franchise for Jhb.
There is still that big dealership in Alberton though , so all is not lost.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 20, 2020, 08:29:35 am
so not mention of Indian? Are they not supposed to sell better than Harley? Some reviews had it that the Indians offered better value, but I cant remember when last I saw an Indian.
Getting very off topic, but seems like they are doing more right, but not prgressing
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 20, 2020, 08:32:48 am
so not mention of Indian? Are they not supposed to sell better than Harley? Some reviews had it that the Indians offered better value, but I cant remember when last I saw an Indian.
Getting very off topic, but seems like they are doing more right, but not prgressing
Attended the last Indian test day at Melrose Arch. Nice machines. Very expensive. Rode the Scout and one of the Baggers. Was very impressed. Since I'm a poor gat I buy second hand so not many available for me. Lots more HD's available second hand.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 20, 2020, 08:51:40 am
Apparently Harley's rule that you may own no more than 3 dealerships.
If this is true, the Indian fellow from Springs can only buy/open1 more.

I was hoping Fire It Up! would look at taking over the franchise for Jhb.
There is still that big dealership in Alberton though , so all is not lost.

yip if the indian fellow from springs buys up the closing 3 in gauteng and consolidates his gold rand into one ie
one big Gauteng dealership

and his Cape Town one swallows up Tygervalley

he will indeed have just Two in the major centres of SA

Bloem seems to be ticking by......not sure who owns this one.....definitely not the springs fella

ROC harley is owned by youngsters who own KTM in Alberton......not sure of that detail

Durban currently owned by Tygervalley but no fireworks happening there

things could get interesting in SA Harley world
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 20, 2020, 09:36:16 am
on the subject of harley killed itself


some info and rumblings about the local market

all three the  dealerships Sandton , ClearWater and Pretoria Lynwwod road are closing /closed......

apparently a deal struck with Gold Rand Harley and there will be just one big Dealership around Midrand area in the future......will be interesting to see what this is

the owners of GoldRand and Cape Town Centre are one and the same......looks like they are heading for one owner is going to own the majority of dealerships in the country and this is the Indian fella from Springs who currently owns Cape Town Dealership

also hear the same dude has made a bid for Tygervalley


Harley SA is in for some interesting times

gold rand owned by s4 motors..seems quite big car sales entity ….
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 20, 2020, 09:40:05 am
so not mention of Indian? Are they not supposed to sell better than Harley? Some reviews had it that the Indians offered better value, but I cant remember when last I saw an Indian.
Getting very off topic, but seems like they are doing more right, but not prgressing
indian nice … apparently not as good handling as hd but better motor..to my opinion the motors are a work of art …
indian more expensive than hd for comparable model … also not as entrenched  as hd in safrican market .. very few dealerships etc and haven't seen much advertising
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 20, 2020, 09:46:34 am
indian motor ..chief etc ..scout motor also pretty but
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 20, 2020, 10:18:59 am
i was in New York a few years ago and came across this beautiful
Indian Dealership in Staten Island

.....truth be told i wouldnt mind having one of them in my garage

they are gorgeous...... O0
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: BuRP on May 20, 2020, 05:11:39 pm
a nut case
https://youtu.be/KOk7PSkHJsw

Yeah lol, I agree - if I'd be on that sportsbike I'd keep a bigger distance from that sliding hooligan!  :lol8:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 20, 2020, 05:42:25 pm
If I may, yes, here anyway, the Sporsters are considered 'girly' HD's unless it is built to tilt with drag bars, e.g. the Forty-eight is more of a manly Sportster here.

Also, keep in mind, the Sportster engine is solid mounted.  Fine for cruising at slow speeds and low mileage days but buzzy at highway speeds and long days.

Softails ride better than Sportsters but ground clearance is an issue if you're riding aggressively.

Touring models are rubber mounted, ride better, and built for short or long days in the saddle. 

I'm a Fatboy or Fatbob fan for cruising.

Streetglide for a mix of cruising and touring.

Road Glide, Road King, or Ultra Classic for long distance touring.

Twin Cam 88 or newer engines run beautifully.

HD fuel injection is flawless and typically tuned to perfection from the factory, they don't suffer the poor on-off feeling like so many other F.I. bikes.

The fuel injected 103 cubic inch engine is fabulous, the Milwaukee 8 has slightly more power. 

Indians however, shift better, have more power, and Imo, prettier, though I'd give HD the edge in paint quality. 

Hope this helps.



Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: >>Thump°C on May 20, 2020, 05:57:43 pm
@Knucklhead , you see what you started. Lol
You thought you'd get flack, you got overwhelming support.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 20, 2020, 06:49:16 pm
Looks like my sporty motor is rubber mounted.

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 20, 2020, 07:28:06 pm
Sporties since 2004 have rubber engine mounts.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 20, 2020, 07:29:53 pm
I stand corrected.  I thought it was 08'. 

Honestly, I don't know much about the Sportsters because at my height I'd look like a Circus bear on a unicycle on one.

They're typically for girls or tiny guys.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tyre kicker on May 20, 2020, 07:47:47 pm
i was in New York a few years ago and came across this beautiful
Indian Dealership in Staten Island

.....truth be told i wouldnt mind having one of them in my garage

they are gorgeous...... O0

Those are truly Mother's of Indians!! >:D :thumleft:
Title: Harley Davidson
Post by: JFE on May 20, 2020, 07:52:53 pm
If I may, yes, here anyway, the Sporsters are considered 'girly' HD's unless it is built to tilt with drag bars, e.g. the Forty-eight is more of a manly Sportster here.

Also, keep in mind, the Sportster engine is solid mounted.  Fine for cruising at slow speeds and low mileage days but buzzy at highway speeds and long days.

Softails ride better than Sportsters but ground clearance is an issue if you're riding aggressively.

Touring models are rubber mounted, ride better, and built for short or long days in the saddle. 

I'm a Fatboy or Fatbob fan for cruising.

Streetglide for a mix of cruising and touring.

Road Glide, Road King, or Ultra Classic for long distance touring.

Twin Cam 88 or newer engines run beautifully.

HD fuel injection is flawless and typically tuned to perfection from the factory, they don't suffer the poor on-off feeling like so many other F.I. bikes.

The fuel injected 103 cubic inch engine is fabulous, the Milwaukee 8 has slightly more power. 

Indians however, shift better, have more power, and Imo, prettier, though I'd give HD the edge in paint quality. 

Hope this helps.
I agree with the Street Glide as the best all round Harley imo. Was one of the top cruisers/ tourers all in all general nice for any occasion bikes I’ve owned.
My current ride is the Fatboy Low, I love it to bits however being a naked has it’s negative points against the cruisers, but hey can’t have it all. Just don’t agree with the Fatbob, sluggish and handling is hard, didn’t enjoy riding it at all.
Can’t comment on sortsters it never appealed to me


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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 20, 2020, 08:21:51 pm
I stand corrected.  I thought it was 08'. 

Honestly, I don't know much about the Sportsters because at my height I'd look like a Circus bear on a unicycle on one.

They're typically for girls or tiny guys.
Dont agree at all. I'm part of a Harley group on Facebook and majority of the members are in the US,  lots of big guys on there riding sporties.

I think it's more of a budget entry into the brand rather than a size thing.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 20, 2020, 08:26:52 pm
If I may, yes, here anyway, the Sporsters are considered 'girly' HD's unless it is built to tilt with drag bars, e.g. the Forty-eight is more of a manly Sportster here.

Also, keep in mind, the Sportster engine is solid mounted.  Fine for cruising at slow speeds and low mileage days but buzzy at highway speeds and long days.

Softails ride better than Sportsters but ground clearance is an issue if you're riding aggressively.

Touring models are rubber mounted, ride better, and built for short or long days in the saddle. 

I'm a Fatboy or Fatbob fan for cruising.

Streetglide for a mix of cruising and touring.

Road Glide, Road King, or Ultra Classic for long distance touring.

Twin Cam 88 or newer engines run beautifully.

HD fuel injection is flawless and typically tuned to perfection from the factory, they don't suffer the poor on-off feeling like so many other F.I. bikes.

The fuel injected 103 cubic inch engine is fabulous, the Milwaukee 8 has slightly more power. 

Indians however, shift better, have more power, and Imo, prettier, though I'd give HD the edge in paint quality. 

Hope this helps.
I agree with the Street Glide as the best all round Harley imo. Was one of the top cruisers/ tourers all in all general nice for any occasion bikes I’ve owned.
My current ride is the Fatboy Low, I love it to bits however being a naked has it’s negative points against the cruisers, but hey can’t have it all. Just don’t agree with the Fatbob, sluggish and handling is hard, didn’t enjoy riding it at all.
Can’t comment on sortsters it never appealed to me


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Yeah, I enjoyed my Streetglide, except the rear shocks.  If I owned another, I'd install better rear shocks.

I think the Fatboy Lo is the best looking HD, especially in the black denim and charcoal grey denim.  I'd like to have one painted Army green denim  :drif:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 20, 2020, 10:24:40 pm
I stand corrected.  I thought it was 08'. 

Honestly, I don't know much about the Sportsters because at my height I'd look like a Circus bear on a unicycle on one.

They're typically for girls or tiny guys.

Shots fired....
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 21, 2020, 12:05:48 am
I stand corrected.  I thought it was 08'. 

Honestly, I don't know much about the Sportsters because at my height I'd look like a Circus bear on a unicycle on one.

They're typically for girls or tiny guys.

Shots fired....

I didn't mean any harm or disrespect  :imaposer:

Of course there's a huge following here.....they're Harleys.  They are the entry level lowest cost models, they sell a ton of them.

I do see a lot of guys riding them, and from my perspective, these men are inseam challenged (is that better, lol) or small statured men that don't want to have to muscle an 800 pound Harley around.

Another HD model that is considered a girls bike here, I don't know if they still make it, is the Softail Deluxe with it's ultra low seat height.  That doesn't mean I don't see men riding them.

Geeeesh, lol. 

The only model from the Sportster line I have ever considered is the discontinued XR1200. 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 21, 2020, 07:31:43 am
ooohhhh xr1200 oooohhhh ..would rather have an original 750 but ..flattracker yes
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 21, 2020, 07:36:29 am
indian version of … cleaning up in the states in the flattrack racing… art in motion
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 08:45:16 am
I stand corrected.  I thought it was 08'. 

Honestly, I don't know much about the Sportsters because at my height I'd look like a Circus bear on a unicycle on one.

They're typically for girls or tiny guys.

Shots fired....

I didn't mean any harm or disrespect  :imaposer:

Of course there's a huge following here.....they're Harleys.  They are the entry level lowest cost models, they sell a ton of them.

I do see a lot of guys riding them, and from my perspective, these men are inseam challenged (is that better, lol) or small statured men that don't want to have to muscle an 800 pound Harley around.

Another HD model that is considered a girls bike here, I don't know if they still make it, is the Softail Deluxe with it's ultra low seat height.  That doesn't mean I don't see men riding them.

Geeeesh, lol. 

The only model from the Sportster line I have ever considered is the discontinued XR1200.

hi the soft tail delux is ridden by many females .......i have seen yes ladies tend to go in this direction..........they are beautiful bikes but i read they are being discontinued for 2020 weather this is temp or not im not sure

the sportster is definitely entry level and size of rider driven .....lots of new rider females seem to like this model....not all

my olmans first harley was a 1200 sporster he rode all over the country.......having said that my dad is not huge.....yet he rode goldwings back in the day......our decision for the sporty was his age and our budget at the time and we wanted to get him on a harley........why because people have more fun on a harley  O0

attached a picture of a "girly sporster "i wanted to buy for my wife ..........but she decided its not for her

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 21, 2020, 09:29:15 am
ooohhhh xr1200 oooohhhh ..would rather have an original 750 but ..flattracker yes

Thanks for the XR porn  :drif: :drif:

One of those built to tilt with Ohlins forks and shocks is a dream bike of mine.

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 21, 2020, 09:34:57 am

hi the soft tail delux is ridden by many females .......i have seen yes ladies tend to go in this direction..........they are beautiful bikes but i read they are being discontinued for 2020 weather this is temp or not im not sure

the sportster is definitely entry level and size of rider driven .....lots of new rider females seem to like this model....not all

my olmans first harley was a 1200 sporster he rode all over the country.......having said that my dad is not huge.....yet he rode goldwings back in the day......our decision for the sporty was his age and our budget at the time and we wanted to get him on a harley........why because people have more fun on a harley  O0

attached a picture of a "girly sporster "i wanted to buy for my wife ..........but she decided its not for her

Pretty woman on a beautiful bike. 

Although I'm not a HD rider presently, I must admit, their paint quality and application processes is second to none. 

There's no doubt they've mastered the cool and cache factors.

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 09:38:41 am
have to love some peoples skill in making beautiful harleys out of sportsters
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 21, 2020, 10:17:35 am
That is a Beaut, I cannot understand that some People don't like Harleys........ ::)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: bud500 on May 21, 2020, 10:56:08 am

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 21, 2020, 11:05:45 am

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.

Google Fatboy Lo, then click images, there's hundreds of images of the model.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: chicco on May 21, 2020, 11:10:57 am
my First Harley
bought this VRod new in 2006.........loved this bike ......only problem is they have very small tanks and you end up riding from garage to garage

bike has a very much drag bike feel........
used to race my mate shaun on his KTM 950.........hehehe he can tell you how this bike did.....goes like a bat out of hell

today you can pick them up fairly cheap as they been discontinued by harley and many owners dont put too many km on them......they come in a few versions ie  night rod etc

A couple of years ago me and 2 nephews did a SA trip for 2 weeks, Night rod, KTM 990 R and GS Adv. The Night rod was faster then both the KTM and GS but boyoboy, you need to hold on at 200km + without any wind protection. the most comfortable was the GS (Yes we shared bikes ) The KTM was the most fun but after 6 hours in the seat your ass was feeling it. The Night rod was filled up at every little town, but it gave us the opportunity to see so much of this beautiful country.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 21, 2020, 11:21:16 am
Iirc, the VRod engine was a collaboration between Porsche and HD engine designers?

I can't remember what exactly it was, but there wasn't much room between the engine and frame, thus the engine had to be removed for valve inspections or cam inspection, my memory fails me.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: bud500 on May 21, 2020, 11:24:52 am

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.

Google Fatboy Lo, then click images, there's hundreds of images of the model.

 ::) ::) :peepwall:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 12:18:57 pm

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.

Google Fatboy Lo, then click images, there's hundreds of images of the model.

 ::) ::) :peepwall:


the new new fat boy is awesome........
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 12:21:29 pm
Iirc, the VRod engine was a collaboration between Porsche and HD engine designers?

I can't remember what exactly it was, but there wasn't much room between the engine and frame, thus the engine had to be removed for valve inspections or cam inspection, my memory fails me.


my dad and i fitted an aftermarket tank from the states to get an extra few litre capacity............we literally had the bike in half to get to fit the tank.......not a lot of space to move on the vrod for sure
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: bud500 on May 21, 2020, 12:21:57 pm

the new new fat boy is awesome........

Love it!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: JFE on May 21, 2020, 12:44:12 pm

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.
Sorry Big, but he asked so I’ll show mine.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 12:47:39 pm

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.
Sorry Big, but he asked so I’ll show mine.

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they are nice all blacked out  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 01:42:58 pm
just saw this article from the wall street journal

all going a bit sideways this year for harley


Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 21, 2020, 01:46:22 pm
just saw this article from the wall street journal

all going a bit sideways this year for harley

this may push up the prices on second hand harleys however
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 21, 2020, 01:50:28 pm
its the right course of action..rationalise the products to save costs. Instead of having the huge range streamline models. Harley wont lose too many sales from this strategy i believe.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: bud500 on May 21, 2020, 03:00:57 pm

Sorry Big, but he asked so I’ll show mine.


Man, that is sweet!  :drif:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on May 21, 2020, 03:36:15 pm
I want an old FXR badly man.  Build one of those unexpectedly good handling Harleys and go hammer it.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 21, 2020, 04:10:15 pm
I have a new favorite, seems like I will be getting a Fatboy some day!

I like the Sportster particularly because its still closest to a bike for me. The couches I always feel like you could just as well be in a car, its so big.
But this thread is definitely changing my opinion.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 21, 2020, 04:33:33 pm
Should i ever buy another harley it would be the break out ..that is sex on wheels...

keep the tourers and highway mile eaters... iwill tour on a brake out with a tool bag and a bed roll... like a cowboy
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on May 21, 2020, 04:41:31 pm
Softail Low rider S for me if I win the lotto.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 21, 2020, 04:47:01 pm
What gets me about Harleys is how little value you get for your money, in terms of braking, handling and overall package.

They are very expensive new, yet do not hold value at all, a sign of overpriced vehicles.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: frankmac on May 21, 2020, 05:17:45 pm
If you have two then you can always do a bit of chariot racing.


Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 21, 2020, 07:25:57 pm

I want a Fatboy Lo so bad I can't stand it.

Show us a Fatboy Lo please.
Been a Fatboy fan for many years, it's probably the HD I see myself on the most.
Sorry Big, but he asked so I’ll show mine.

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 :drif: :drif:  that's not just hot, that's hawwwwwwwwwwt

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 21, 2020, 08:48:31 pm
What gets me about Harleys is how little value you get for your money, in terms of braking, handling and overall package.

They are very expensive new, yet do not hold value at all, a sign of overpriced vehicles.

On this here island Harley’s hold their value extremely well. Probably the best brand in that regard.

Think it’s cos very little changes in the Harley world. So 10 year old bikes are still current models.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 22, 2020, 05:34:34 am
What gets me about Harleys is how little value you get for your money, in terms of braking, handling and overall package.

They are very expensive new, yet do not hold value at all, a sign of overpriced vehicles.
they used to really hold price well ..except for ous like me and i presume mother etc who ride em...now well yes u can get odel 88 and 95 cube models for very decent process but saying that its really still kak n betall when u look at age etc ….
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 22, 2020, 08:07:52 am
Just thought of another model I drooled over......Softail Cross Bones. 

I believe they mtg'd it circa 2008-2011.

Had a springer front end.  Really liked the Black, Black Denim, and Army Green colored models, didn't really care for the Pewter Denim color.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2020, 08:17:17 am
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Bensien on May 22, 2020, 08:40:36 am
I had Harley as a case study while doing business management in the 90's. The almost went under in the 80's as well, but was saved by clever marketing. I don't think it is going to work this time. Trump's trade policies sealed their fate before Corona became an issue.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Cracker on May 22, 2020, 10:33:14 am
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?

Or the Boulevard .............. that's a fat bike  :o
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 22, 2020, 10:36:59 am
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?
honestly the jap stuff (called metric cruisers in yankland)  is probably way ahead of Harley in everything except brand  loyalty and mystique/allure
the older ones are not great looking etc ie look at yam xs 11 special just standard bike with handlebars n stepped saddle really .. marauder etc were putrid ..but then start with boulevards royal stars etc and really nice looking handling performing, great reliability but not a Harley …. the one i jerk off over (figuratively) is the honda rune no i lie although rune really nice ..there was a real custom honda hmm maybe fury but name don't sound right...sex on wheels machine but again just not hd or sns motor
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 22, 2020, 10:42:31 am
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?
honestly the jap stuff (called metric cruisers in yankland)  is probably way ahead of Harley in everything except brand  loyalty and mystique/allure
the older ones are not great looking etc ie look at yam xs 11 special just standard bike with handlebars n stepped saddle really .. marauder etc were putrid ..but then start with boulevards royal stars etc and really nice looking handling performing, great reliability but not a Harley …. the one i jerk off over (figuratively) is the honda rune no i lie although rune really nice ..there was a real custom honda hmm maybe fury but name don't sound right...sex on wheels machine but again just not hd or sns motor
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: JFE on May 22, 2020, 11:50:58 am
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?
Way back I had a V Max and to this day rate that thing as one of the best bikes I’ve ever owned. I even consider buying the new V Max in 2016 but got my 1st HD (Street Glide) at a much lower price, the new Max is just way too expensive. If it wasn’t for the deal on the Glide I’d probably would have gone the Honda Shadow or VTX way.


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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: sidetrack on May 22, 2020, 11:54:20 am
What gets me about Harleys is how little value you get for your money, in terms of braking, handling and overall package.

They are very expensive new, yet do not hold value at all, a sign of overpriced vehicles.
Remember American Chopper ? They put a HD motor into hard tail frame, weld up a fuel tank and ask $50 000-00  :deal:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on May 22, 2020, 12:10:01 pm
we will never be as cool as Kahl Drago riding a harley to mexico

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on May 22, 2020, 12:27:47 pm
I have a new favorite, seems like I will be getting a Fatboy some day!

I like the Sportster particularly because its still closest to a bike for me. The couches I always feel like you could just as well be in a car, its so big.
But this thread is definitely changing my opinion.

A guy I ride with ha an FXD Dyna. Granted, the dude is like 7ft tall but he has these giant ape hangers on the thing, and when he's on it, I can't keep up through the turns on my 1290.  Now, I'm a big pussy, I'll be the first to admit, and as soon as there's a decent straight I can generally squirt right back up to him, but it seems to defy logic and physics how he chucks that thing through corners.
At one point through a long uphill section over the mountains back from Kaapschehoop side to Sabie he had the thing wide open for so long it emptied the float bowl :imaposer: Had to back off for a second and then hit it again :imaposer: :imaposer:

I really like that it's long, low and Narrow. That's kinda why I want a FXR so badly.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 22, 2020, 12:45:41 pm
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?
honestly the jap stuff (called metric cruisers in yankland)  is probably way ahead of Harley in everything except brand  loyalty and mystique/allure
the older ones are not great looking etc ie look at yam xs 11 special just standard bike with handlebars n stepped saddle really .. marauder etc were putrid ..but then start with boulevards royal stars etc and really nice looking handling performing, great reliability but not a Harley …. the one i jerk off over (figuratively) is the honda rune no i lie although rune really nice ..there was a real custom honda hmm maybe fury but name don't sound right...sex on wheels machine but again just not hd or sns motor


have to agree the jap bikes today are very nice but miss the cultural xfactor.....

i personally like and think the boulevard  is a stunning bike......


the indians really try to drive sales and branding from their heritage........very debatable point this too


heres a bike i think i could jump ship for ............probably because it looks so unique ........or maybe im biased towards italian styling with a motorcycle company who has its root as far back as 1920's

this guzzi takes my breath away
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 22, 2020, 01:16:21 pm
Me too, that is Racy.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2020, 01:32:15 pm
Thanks guys, like I said earlier, somewhere on here, Harley's huge advantage is originality.

The original outlaw machine, a 1%er on a Jap bike is just not the same. :imaposer:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on May 22, 2020, 01:44:25 pm
another idea I had was to build a low and long Bobber out of a Kawasaki MeanStreak.   Awesome looking machine with half decent brakes and suspension and wheel sizes you can find proper tyres for. Should be awesome fun.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 22, 2020, 01:48:11 pm
IS BRIT MACHINE HAS OFTEN CAUGHT MY EYE ,... and looking at guzzi what about diavel
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 22, 2020, 01:53:57 pm
While we have the attention os some real and geniune Harley guys on here, can I ask you a question?

How do you guys rate the Japanese cruisers, etc, models that are built to compete directly in Harley's market, with HD bikes?

Bikes like Yamaha's Bolt, V-Max and Royal stars?
honestly the jap stuff (called metric cruisers in yankland)  is probably way ahead of Harley in everything except brand  loyalty and mystique/allure
the older ones are not great looking etc ie look at yam xs 11 special just standard bike with handlebars n stepped saddle really .. marauder etc were putrid ..but then start with boulevards royal stars etc and really nice looking handling performing, great reliability but not a Harley …. the one i jerk off over (figuratively) is the honda rune no i lie although rune really nice ..there was a real custom honda hmm maybe fury but name don't sound right...sex on wheels machine but again just not hd or sns motor

I struggle to see what is a HD and what is not a lot of the times. But the bikes in these photos looks cheap, like they should have a big boy sign.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: unishaun on May 22, 2020, 02:11:37 pm
My Dad recently got this road king custom, the 88" with 5 speed box (2005 I think)

I must say, what a hoot to ride. Granted it is very different from my Tiger, but I did not expect it to be a nice to ride as it was on the the road. I do also love the look of their biker cruisers.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/9ed3a291f798b48f6048aea83e50ab0f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 22, 2020, 02:32:11 pm
My Dad recently got this road king custom, the 88" with 5 speed box (2005 I think)

I must say, what a hoot to ride. Granted it is very different from my Tiger, but I did not expect it to be a nice to ride as it was on the the road. I do also love the look of their biker cruisers.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/9ed3a291f798b48f6048aea83e50ab0f.jpg)

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Dats purrrty  :drif:  I've always liked that 5 lamp setup (headlamp with 4 auxiliary lamps).
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: JFE on May 22, 2020, 06:38:35 pm
Honestly the 88” 5 speed is anything as smooth as the my 103 with 1st stage conversion (basically air intake, management system and pipes) those motors are great units. However I often did wish for a 6th gear.


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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: KarooKid on May 25, 2020, 09:15:43 am
I would not mind owning a Harley.

Love the old school look of the Crossbones and have always been a FatBoy fan

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 25, 2020, 09:42:54 am
 :drif: :drif: love dat saddle
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 25, 2020, 10:04:32 am
Honestly the 88” 5 speed is anything as smooth as the my 103 with 1st stage conversion (basically air intake, management system and pipes) those motors are great units. However I often did wish for a 6th gear.


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newer ones all have 6 speed boxes .. but aftermarket 6 speed available for older models as well ..have to add laways wanted 6 speed on my softail as well for long roads
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: bud500 on May 25, 2020, 10:05:29 am
:drif: :drif: love dat saddle

Those look awesome.
But they leave no room to move, so you get saddle sore very quickly, as you are forced to sit in the exact same position.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 25, 2020, 10:06:43 am
:drif: :drif: love dat saddle

Those look awesome.
But they leave no room to move, so you get saddle sore very quickly, as you are forced to sit in the exact same position.
i have always found due to seating position ..ie leg out ..it very difficult to shift apart from legs to hway pegs etc
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 25, 2020, 10:13:49 am
My Dad recently got this road king custom, the 88" with 5 speed box (2005 I think)

I must say, what a hoot to ride. Granted it is very different from my Tiger, but I did not expect it to be a nice to ride as it was on the the road. I do also love the look of their biker cruisers.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/9ed3a291f798b48f6048aea83e50ab0f.jpg)

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i like the road king its versatile and not so bulky

get a lot of compliments for mine .....it is a bit different from normal road kings in that it has a unique paint set.........theses bikes normally come with leather saddle bags

mine has hard bags and on top of it they are stretch bags.......most hard bags go down to top of the pipes .......the stretch bags go past and i love this look ........its all just a question of budget


my road king is a standard 2012 roadking classic.....which they replaced with this limited edition paint set theme only available in 2012 it is number 48 of 200 that exist only....its called Mahem

i was shopping around for my 50th and saw this in Harley Sandton

this bike is very photogenic .........

ridden it around the country .....but mostly its used around town or for short trips






Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 25, 2020, 10:18:09 am
:drif: :drif: love dat saddle

Those look awesome.
But they leave no room to move, so you get saddle sore very quickly, as you are forced to sit in the exact same position.

I agree, da saddle doesn't look comfy but it sure is purrty on dat gloss black cross bone
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 25, 2020, 10:20:36 am
@Mother dat is by far one of the most brilliant eye catching paint jobs I've ever seen. Man dat thing jumps in da sunlight.  WOW   :drif: :drif:

I don't know about there, but here, dat bike would draw a crowd wherever it stopped.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on May 25, 2020, 10:25:28 am
That is indeed one incredible beauty right there :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: JFE on May 25, 2020, 11:16:41 am
@Mother I agree that is one pretty looking bike, but there is a reason I had my FB all blacked out. Between bit lazy and not wanting to spend hours polishing and wiping chrome clean I personally do not want that amount of chrome on my bike, and I’m a fan of the matt / dull effects on the HD’s


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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 26, 2020, 12:33:43 pm
@Mother I agree that is one pretty looking bike, but there is a reason I had my FB all blacked out. Between bit lazy and not wanting to spend hours polishing and wiping chrome clean I personally do not want that amount of chrome on my bike, and I’m a fan of the matt / dull effects on the HD’s


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 :thumleft:

the new look at harley nowadays is black chrome.......there is a lot of black on the new bikes

im also not a chrome polish guy but discovered these products .......

if i need to dry wash i use the FW1 spray wax and clean product

for a full wash i use Meguiars wash and wax and only a chamois

relate to the lazy so polishing is not my thing.........these two products are winners for anyone with a bling harley to achieve max shine with min effort......just saying
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: RedWolf on May 26, 2020, 09:15:53 pm
I went to collect a Harley today on behalf of a friend. He hasn't been on a bike in a lot of years. I rode the 120km back to his house. Although I ride often, I haven't been on a Harley in a few years and I was pleasantly surprised. The bike in mention is a 103 cubic inch 2011 model in great condition. The bike is really slow, but so super soft and very smooth at highway speeds. I really enjoyed the trip.

Harley guys, what is the difference between the electra glide, road glide and ultra glide?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mapog on May 26, 2020, 11:28:38 pm
I used to LOVE HDs. Owned a Springer classic(Still the best looking Harley) and a Dyna wide glide. Also used to like American pickup trucks...
But as much as I used to, I couldnt care less for them nowadays.

Maybe I got to appreciate the effectiveness of the Japanese bikes and bakkies?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 27, 2020, 07:52:26 am

Harley guys, what is the difference between the electra glide, road glide and ultra glide?

The frames are the same.
The Roadglide is the dual headlight one with a frame mounted faring.

There is no such thing as an Ultra Glide.

The road king has a normal clear clip off windshield with instruments on the tank  usually but not always with leather bags.

Then we have the models with the batwing fairings

Firstly, the Street Glide.
This has no top box ( what we call a Tour pak). It has lowered rear suspension, bigger wheels & rear pillion pegs, not boards . This one has fairing mounted mirrors.
This is Harley's big seller in the U.S.

Then you get the Electra Glide standard which was rereleased in 2019 after being gone for a few years.
Also no top box, single seat, no radio. Regulation height rear shocks, handlebar mounted fairing & mirrors

Then there's the Electra Glide Ultra Limited, which is what you are on in your picture.
Top box with speakers, radio , CD, intercom, cruise control , handle bar mounted fairing &  mirrors. Pillion floorboards. Fairing lowers, Top of the line with all bells & whistles

There used to be , now discontinued, a Electra Glide Ultra Classic.
This is what I have. It has rails around the Saddlebags doesn't have chrome wheels & does not have heated grips.

There are also the Lo models with reduced seat height and also the CVO models, which you can think of as AMG versions lots of extra goodies.

@Mother , feel free to add/ edit...


Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: RedWolf on May 27, 2020, 09:20:24 am
Thanks

And a Dyna?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 27, 2020, 10:26:07 am
I would not mind owning a Harley.

Love the old school look of the Crossbones and have always been a FatBoy fan

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love the xbone … i think bit collector thing now in hd community …
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 27, 2020, 10:27:16 am
@Mother I agree that is one pretty looking bike, but there is a reason I had my FB all blacked out. Between bit lazy and not wanting to spend hours polishing and wiping chrome clean I personally do not want that amount of chrome on my bike, and I’m a fan of the matt / dull effects on the HD’s


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 :thumleft:

the new look at harley nowadays is black chrome.......there is a lot of black on the new bikes

im also not a chrome polish guy but discovered these products .......

if i need to dry wash i use the FW1 spray wax and clean product

for a full wash i use Meguiars wash and wax and only a chamois

relate to the lazy so polishing is not my thing.........these two products are winners for anyone with a bling harley to achieve max shine with min effort......just saying
thanks mother ..gonna look for these products n try
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 27, 2020, 10:32:13 am
so watched those 2 x vids on hd going under and etc etc …. interesting and yes based on figures etc but eish i dunno ..the new hd models may pull em out ..and European, Asian markets may do a thing as well ..and although older etc many americans die hard hd fans … with the new models and different marketing and the bicycles etc hd mat downsize but unsure of rest
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 27, 2020, 10:35:39 am
so watched those 2 x vids on hd going under and etc etc …. interesting and yes based on figures etc but eish i dunno ..the new hd models may pull em out ..and European, Asian markets may do a thing as well ..and although older etc many americans die hard hd fans … with the new models and different marketing and the bicycles etc hd mat downsize but unsure of rest
saying all of that if i had spare 400k now i would look at r18 with long long eyes ..although not as nice as concept bike man it makes my nether regions stir a lot ...the open shaft, paint job, and all
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 27, 2020, 10:51:14 am
Thanks

And a Dyna?


Dyna came about when H-D bolted a Sportster front and onto a FL (touring) frame..
It was very successful series,I still do not why it was discontinued in 2017

Some models :
Super Glide
Super Glide Custom
Wide Glide
Street Bob
Fat Bob
Low Rider
Low Rider S.
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They look similar to Sporters at first glance as they also have twin outboard rear shocks.

However , they're quite a lot bigger and have the motor & gearbox separate whereas on a Sporty the motor & gearbox are 1 piece.

In my opinion & I have owned 2, the Dyna is the most practical Harley for all round use.
Lots of oomph, a decent sized tank,  lots of space & fairly good handling.

The last ones came out with the 103 motor.

My last one was an anniversary edition Super Glide Custom, it had
96 cubic inch motor
Fuel injection
6 speed box
ABS
Digital rev counter
Gear indicator
Heated grips
Tubeless mags & tyres.
Full LED lighting
Various different screens & seats & luggage setups depending how far I was going & if SWAMBO was coming too.
Not primitive by any stretch & did not leak ever.

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 27, 2020, 11:15:37 am
^ do we really have to ask for pictures?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 27, 2020, 11:57:33 am
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Imo, the R1800 is hideous, it looks like a V-Star 650 and a blind person could've designed a better looking exhaust.

That thing is gonna be another dud from Bavaria here.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 27, 2020, 12:22:56 pm
^ do we really have to ask for pictures?

In hospital at the moment having a total knee replacement.
No decent pics in my phone of my Dynas sorry.
But I did find one of my Ultra,  with the top box & some other stuff taken off
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 27, 2020, 12:25:19 pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Imo, the R1800 is hideous, it looks like a V-Star 650 and a blind person could've designed a better looking exhaust.

That thing is gonna be another dud from Bavaria here.

I agree.
Look at the position of the foot pegs, the cylinders get in the way of where you're feet should be.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: m0lt3n on May 27, 2020, 12:26:36 pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Imo, the R1800 is hideous, it looks like a V-Star 650 and a blind person could've designed a better looking exhaust.

That thing is gonna be another dud from Bavaria here.

 I watched a Youtuber opinion yesterday stating the same.
Its overpriced with no cult following like with the HD. IOW you can get a better HD for the same money.
The pegs are to close to you, so its uncomfortable. ANd unlike the HD's there is no extras to fix this.
And then the exhaust was also mentioned. The dude painted a pretty grim picture. (same dude did one of the recent "HD is doomed" vids, but not fortnine)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 27, 2020, 12:28:22 pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Imo, the R1800 is hideous, it looks like a V-Star 650 and a blind person could've designed a better looking exhaust.

That thing is gonna be another dud from Bavaria here.

I agree.
Look at the position of the foot pegs, the cylinders get in the way of where you're feet should be.

And the front fender, I mean seriously, that thing is going to be a huuuuuuuuge failure here. 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 27, 2020, 12:36:26 pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Imo, the R1800 is hideous, it looks like a V-Star 650 and a blind person could've designed a better looking exhaust.

That thing is gonna be another dud from Bavaria here.
HMMI QUITE LIKE PIP[E..BACK MUDGUARD MUST BE CHOPPED ..BUT I HEAR YOU AND INERESTING COS I THINK BIKE AIMED AT YANKLAND
whjoops caps on sorry
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 27, 2020, 12:45:20 pm
^ do we really have to ask for pictures?

In hospital at the moment having a total knee replacement.
No decent pics in my phone of my Dynas sorry.
But I did find one of my Ultra,  with the top box & some other stuff taken off

Sharp Ultra  :drif:  Man they ride and run beautifully.  Love the deep valanced front fender, all metal, no plastic like the Japanese cruisers.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on May 27, 2020, 12:47:03 pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Imo, the R1800 is hideous, it looks like a V-Star 650 and a blind person could've designed a better looking exhaust.

That thing is gonna be another dud from Bavaria here.
HMMI QUITE LIKE PIP[E..BACK MUDGUARD MUST BE CHOPPED ..BUT I HEAR YOU AND INERESTING COS I THINK BIKE AIMED AT YANKLAND
whjoops caps on sorry

I agree, they're gonna try to sap sales from HD the way Polaris is with Indians. 

I love the motor, but the bike is gonna be an epic failure here in my prediction.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 27, 2020, 04:35:57 pm

Harley guys, what is the difference between the electra glide, road glide and ultra glide?

The frames are the same.
The Roadglide is the dual headlight one with a frame mounted faring.

There is no such thing as an Ultra Glide.

The road king has a normal clear clip off windshield with instruments on the tank  usually but not always with leather bags.

Then we have the models with the batwing fairings

Firstly, the Street Glide.
This has no top box ( what we call a Tour pak). It has lowered rear suspension, bigger wheels & rear pillion pegs, not boards . This one has fairing mounted mirrors.
This is Harley's big seller in the U.S.

Then you get the Electra Glide standard which was rereleased in 2019 after being gone for a few years.
Also no top box, single seat, no radio. Regulation height rear shocks, handlebar mounted fairing & mirrors

Then there's the Electra Glide Ultra Limited, which is what you are on in your picture.
Top box with speakers, radio , CD, intercom, cruise control , handle bar mounted fairing &  mirrors. Pillion floorboards. Fairing lowers, Top of the line with all bells & whistles

There used to be , now discontinued, a Electra Glide Ultra Classic.
This is what I have. It has rails around the Saddlebags doesn't have chrome wheels & does not have heated grips.

There are also the Lo models with reduced seat height and also the CVO models, which you can think of as AMG versions lots of extra goodies.

@Mother , feel free to add/ edit...

i think you summed it up nicely
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 27, 2020, 04:54:53 pm

[/quote]
love the xbone … i think bit collector thing now in hd community …
[/quote]

yes very hard to find these bikes now

heres a picture of my mates custom xbones when he just got it
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 27, 2020, 05:51:53 pm
I do like the blue/white custom Harley, very classy.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 28, 2020, 07:28:18 am
i see trevor over at easyrider in pta advertising xr1200 in latest toilet reading (may edition i think) … 75k .. he also has xbone at 160k but bobbed by them (chopped a bit not standard) ...issue with him in old days and i am not sure now ..he used to import his bikes from California and the cali bikes were all kinda detuned due to way stricter smog regulations then in rest of states … he used to put cams in etc to try bring performance up to standard levels but ….. as i say that was 20 years ago and these days i have no clue …
saying all the above if i win last night lotto i may have a XR in my garage 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on May 28, 2020, 07:56:52 am
i see trevor over at easyrider in pta advertising xr1200 in latest toilet reading (may edition i think) … 75k .. he also has xbone at 160k but bobbed by them (chopped a bit not standard) ...issue with him in old days and i am not sure now ..he used to import his bikes from California and the cali bikes were all kinda detuned due to way stricter smog regulations then in rest of states … he used to put cams in etc to try bring performance up to standard levels but ….. as i say that was 20 years ago and these days i have no clue …
saying all the above if i win last night lotto i may have a XR in my garage

never bought anything from Trevor before but we loved to go and browse his stock of bikes when we lived up in pta...........in my view what ive seen over the years

for used harleys my first port of call would be metal heads then easy rider then lastly v customs.......but its just my opinion.........these guys specialise in used but the guy ive seen continuously with the best used stock and bike condition is by far metal heads....his bikes are very clean

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on May 28, 2020, 08:18:08 am

love the xbone … i think bit collector thing now in hd community …
[/quote]

yes very hard to find these bikes now

heres a picture of my mates custom xbones when he just got it
[/quote]
like the fishtail pipes
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Kobus on June 04, 2020, 08:34:02 pm
Love it.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lem on June 04, 2020, 08:38:50 pm
liewe donner dis 'n mooi bike  :drif:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on June 04, 2020, 08:46:24 pm
Congrats very mooi.

Sent from my SM-A705FN using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 04, 2020, 08:59:12 pm
Love it.

Mooi. Bliksems mooi
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Manic on June 05, 2020, 12:50:14 am
 :biggrin: :biggrin:  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 05, 2020, 07:02:46 am
Love it.
very very pretty … to be picky the saddle don't look quite right aesthetically with the panniers but i could live with that ….. love the fairing
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 09, 2020, 01:00:31 pm
I finally got my couch back after lockdown it had to get a new factory fitted engine because of a "sumping" issue......google it if u are curious

short version no power all the oil lies in the crank and not pumping to the rest of the motor...

also because i insisted as the motor had gotten hot on two occasions.......

anyway HD stood by their warranty and ordered me a new motor

so i been spending since Thursday when i got it until Sunday running it in for them to do the 1000km oil change service

fortunately i get a new 2 years warranty on the motor

just got her back from Tygervalley after oil change all clean and ready to go...again ....besides the inconvenience it cost me nothing

although i now have reservations about harleys reliability now........this being the 2nd CVO i have had with engine trouble

hopefully they fixed it now and i am good to go

was very nice to get some riding in on this beast the weekend

i christened her "Black Betty" after the song...........
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 09, 2020, 01:03:51 pm
lovely colour ..good luck wif the motor ..
interesting that u say 2nd cvo ..was other also 117 motor … i see you said engine got hot but that's normal..oil pump not strong enough for motor and size etc ?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 09, 2020, 01:08:25 pm
Mother how much "heavier" does the Harley feel between your legs compared to your GSA?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 09, 2020, 01:12:12 pm
lovely colour ..good luck wif the motor ..
interesting that u say 2nd cvo ..was other also 117 motor … i see you said engine got hot but that's normal..oil pump not strong enough for motor and size etc ?

no my other cvo was a 2014 110 cubic inch.......its engine said hows your father at 57000km

the hot was not normal hot.....i know the difference ..........i wasnt prepared for a fix not for the price you pay for these bikes

i believe they on the 3rd edition oil pump for 2020 now...........cannot confirm though
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 09, 2020, 01:15:36 pm
Mother how much "heavier" does the Harley feel between your legs compared to your GSA?

i dont find the hd heavy at all because all the weight is low down

i compare my couch with a bmw LT i used to have ......the hd was easy to manoeuvre because of the hd being lower in stance and the weight of the motor
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 10, 2020, 06:50:25 am
lovely colour ..good luck wif the motor ..
interesting that u say 2nd cvo ..was other also 117 motor … i see you said engine got hot but that's normal..oil pump not strong enough for motor and size etc ?

no my other cvo was a 2014 110 cubic inch.......its engine said hows your father at 57000km

the hot was not normal hot.....i know the difference ..........i wasnt prepared for a fix not for the price you pay for these bikes

i believe they on the 3rd edition oil pump for 2020 now...........cannot confirm though
i see both your couches had /have standard screen ..don't your mrs pick up buffeting issues
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 10, 2020, 10:13:03 am
lovely colour ..good luck wif the motor ..
interesting that u say 2nd cvo ..was other also 117 motor … i see you said engine got hot but that's normal..oil pump not strong enough for motor and size etc ?

no my other cvo was a 2014 110 cubic inch.......its engine said hows your father at 57000km

the hot was not normal hot.....i know the difference ..........i wasnt prepared for a fix not for the price you pay for these bikes

i believe they on the 3rd edition oil pump for 2020 now...........cannot confirm though
i see both your couches had /have standard screen ..don't your mrs pick up buffeting issues

no buffeting issues at all

my view is because she sits closer behind me.........she hasn't complained about this once on any of the Harley's
and we have ridden thousands of km together

she used to complain a lot about buffeting on my BMW LT and this had an adjustable screen..........put this down to the fact she sat further from me and was continuously affected by the wind swirling around me
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 10, 2020, 10:16:15 am
Sorry to hear about your engine troubles Mother I really thought Harley engines are like Cat's and Cummins, hardly ever give trouble? :(
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 10, 2020, 10:36:24 am
Sorry to hear about your engine troubles Mother I really thought Harley engines are like Cat's and Cummins, hardly ever give trouble? :(

yip me too until i started having a few problems of my own

problem is they had oil pump issues on the latest Milwaukee 8 motor they on the 4th generation pump now

thing is when these fail so does the motor

on the 110 cube motor it was something to do with the push rods and if not caught in time motor goes too

I'm not a tech buff but these were my two experiences

the 110 cube motor failure was very expensive for me as i lost 120k value on my bike as it was outside warranty ........a sore point and long story for another day

I've experienced  other manufacturers having issues........not that this makes it right by no means
like bmw front shock yoke
drive shaft failure....experienced personally
rear shock failure....experienced personally

Africa twin
speedo shaft failure....experienced personally
petrol pump failure.....experienced personally

yes i know not all as expensive or maybe as major

but they happen

i now have a fresh two year warranty on my HD 117

my Road king is a 103 cube and hasn't given a days drama.......also read good reviews on these engines

hopefully Harley has sorted out their kak now

my advice to anyone wanting to buy a particular model is check the internet or do a bit of research you will see which model has issues and which doesn't

some times speak to a good specialised techie vs a salesman

these are all lessons i learnt in hindsight
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 10, 2020, 10:44:53 am
https://youtu.be/duBPNCs_vTA



this talks about the oil pump on the M8 harley engine........starts a 1min 30
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 10, 2020, 11:56:38 am
nice look at the electric hd

https://youtu.be/yXhbdYYiPSQ
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roxtar on June 11, 2020, 01:21:40 pm
Must say I have ridden various Harleys but would take an Indian any day over a Harley.... :thumleft: ;)

The Indians just feel more alive and better built, and the handling is on another planet compared to Harley imo...
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 11, 2020, 01:23:36 pm
nice look at the electric hd

https://youtu.be/yXhbdYYiPSQ

i took one out for a demo pre lockdown..the bike is impressive from many aspects but also not so impressive from others like price and range. i think it was incredibly brave from harley though
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Roadhawg on June 11, 2020, 03:03:24 pm
They already make an adventure bike

(https://i.imgur.com/W9qJxS9.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBIVeiphoUw/

 :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 11, 2020, 03:33:57 pm
They already make an adventure bike

(https://i.imgur.com/W9qJxS9.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBIVeiphoUw/

 :biggrin: :biggrin:
had to look twice to make sure wasn't me on my 1340 ..(have done similar once or twice) on way to rallys etc
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 11, 2020, 03:36:44 pm
So this is my couch. It is a very nice couch it is very similar to all other couches but it is mine . I have owned it for a little over a year now . bought 2ndhand with 5k on the clock . now has about 14k trouble free km on it. It is the first model year of the twin cool (or is that the bm lc term) so it has dual cooling ,air and water on the heads. All recalls have been run etc and bike is cool except when it runs in traffic at 40deg . due to twin cool the fairing leg shrouds are not storage compartments but radiators , dunno if I would have used them  to store much anyway as I think too easy to get in and rip off people (a few press studs) . I have the 103 motor (1800cc) aprox and there is plenty enough power and speed for the bike. Bike has the boombox  so 5 or 6 inch screen with a gps , radio etc . I can also plug in a memory stick , ipod smartphone and stream music. The  hd comms system is a bit archaic with cable that plugs into bike and helmet and that coupled with fact that vrou and I have senna 10 already we don’t use the comms or sound but occasionally I switch on the radio out the 4 speaker system while riding around town but that is a bit poser for me and against my personality I guess because everyone stops and looks etc. I plot routes on my garmin mapsource and plug in memory stick and upload routes to gps. Works well in theory but in practice sometimes the area of the map is not on the hd system and it keeps trying to offer alternates, can be confusing to follow the route but generally for road travel etc works well enough. There is the cb radio of course but I know nought about that except once suddenly it started talking to me and I presume there was a.n.other nearby with his switched on
A very interesting innovation in the engine is the ETMS (maybe name) system . engine temp mgmt. essentially what happens is when slow stop start riding in town at high ambient temperature and obviously big engine heat on the couches, when you stop the electronics automatically check temp etc and if too hot switch off fuel to rear cylinder..rear cylinder in effect becomes a air pump. Rev or pull off and etms switches off and fuel pumps in again creating power .
There are little body panels above rear head to divert air flow away from legs..works fuckall really.
Scoot weighs 410kg dry (I think dry) but you really don’t notice weight as it is very low down and actually handles very nicely and can be ridden quite briskly once you know it and are used to it. Interesting point is DONOT pull front brake at a walk while turning bars a bit..bike will topple over and despite the fact that you see little old ladies picking bike up on youtube it is not that easy despite fact that we are gs pickup trained people (same method to be honest). But being gs people we can you turn etc with the best of them using a bit of clutch control, foot brake, head turning and weight displacement.
I have the ultra ltd so had to put my own hway pegs. They are really a must I reckon. In addition to highway pegs I have put a shorter screen as vrou really complained about buffeting badly. The shorter screen buffets a bit round my head but not any worse than my 1200adv and probably(in my memory) a bit better than my 1150 adv   with screen removed (cant remember why I did that except that it looked cool).   It looks nicer with the shorter screen I think. I have put v&h pipes well actually bike came with them . not loud but such a lovely sound when you on bike. The aerials are gone and replaced by a very short solid piece purchased at midas and in my opinion look way better.  Apart from suspension the rest of bike is stock standard and that could take another essay to explain. In a nutshell bike comes with air suspension (oil inside shock) and I understand no springs. What an effup of note. So you pump air into shock depending on weight but to be honest me mrs and luggage are over the limit kind of . then the air starts leaking out that every day you need to repump, that is not so much of an issue and riding on the motorway it is not bad. Any secondary road becomes a major issue though with bouncing, bad bad bottoming and kidneys sent through your spine into your neck. God help you if theres a smell of a pothole though. So blingking quotes 25k for shocks, ohlins over 30k, Malcom the mechanic 16k , me to bring in from states around 15k . my friendly hd ou got me a set of noname brand special from tjoina virus free guaranteed , they were a gamble before going to the big bucks, cost around 3k, me n vrou haven’t done a trip yet but so far with no luggage, a bit bouncy but handle well and no bottoming and well   to be honest we are not unhappy at this point in time .
Longest trip was from jhb to bloemhof,Kimberley, vic west ,graaf reinert and George over 3 sleeps touring. Return George pe somerset zastron jhb with only 2 sleeps.
So why did I buy the couch ..mrs cannot get leg over the adv anymore and now in our older days we have time and a bit of spare cash for touring and jolling (no children anymore) . we did look at rt and I liked the bm six a bit but they weren’t right for us, ditto a Goldwing . Yamaha fjr or whatever could have also been cool but the comfort levels we have are unbeatable. Funny thing though  vrou seems to prefer the gs and what we do is she climbs on first and then being very careful not to kick her in the cooky I slide on ..we do do similar with the couch and this method works very well.           
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Jag man on June 11, 2020, 03:39:32 pm
Thinking of selling my wife's Harley 883 super low sportster .2015 and 3000km on stands in the lounge.
Any idea of a selling price?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 12, 2020, 01:28:51 pm
So this is my couch. It is a very nice couch it is very similar to all other couches but it is mine . I have owned it for a little over a year now . bought 2ndhand with 5k on the clock . now has about 14k trouble free km on it. It is the first model year of the twin cool (or is that the bm lc term) so it has dual cooling ,air and water on the heads. All recalls have been run etc and bike is cool except when it runs in traffic at 40deg . due to twin cool the fairing leg shrouds are not storage compartments but radiators , dunno if I would have used them  to store much anyway as I think too easy to get in and rip off people (a few press studs) . I have the 103 motor (1800cc) aprox and there is plenty enough power and speed for the bike. Bike has the boombox  so 5 or 6 inch screen with a gps , radio etc . I can also plug in a memory stick , ipod smartphone and stream music. The  hd comms system is a bit archaic with cable that plugs into bike and helmet and that coupled with fact that vrou and I have senna 10 already we don’t use the comms or sound but occasionally I switch on the radio out the 4 speaker system while riding around town but that is a bit poser for me and against my personality I guess because everyone stops and looks etc. I plot routes on my garmin mapsource and plug in memory stick and upload routes to gps. Works well in theory but in practice sometimes the area of the map is not on the hd system and it keeps trying to offer alternates, can be confusing to follow the route but generally for road travel etc works well enough. There is the cb radio of course but I know nought about that except once suddenly it started talking to me and I presume there was a.n.other nearby with his switched on
A very interesting innovation in the engine is the ETMS (maybe name) system . engine temp mgmt. essentially what happens is when slow stop start riding in town at high ambient temperature and obviously big engine heat on the couches, when you stop the electronics automatically check temp etc and if too hot switch off fuel to rear cylinder..rear cylinder in effect becomes a air pump. Rev or pull off and etms switches off and fuel pumps in again creating power .
There are little body panels above rear head to divert air flow away from legs..works fuckall really.
Scoot weighs 410kg dry (I think dry) but you really don’t notice weight as it is very low down and actually handles very nicely and can be ridden quite briskly once you know it and are used to it. Interesting point is DONOT pull front brake at a walk while turning bars a bit..bike will topple over and despite the fact that you see little old ladies picking bike up on youtube it is not that easy despite fact that we are gs pickup trained people (same method to be honest). But being gs people we can you turn etc with the best of them using a bit of clutch control, foot brake, head turning and weight displacement.
I have the ultra ltd so had to put my own hway pegs. They are really a must I reckon. In addition to highway pegs I have put a shorter screen as vrou really complained about buffeting badly. The shorter screen buffets a bit round my head but not any worse than my 1200adv and probably(in my memory) a bit better than my 1150 adv   with screen removed (cant remember why I did that except that it looked cool).   It looks nicer with the shorter screen I think. I have put v&h pipes well actually bike came with them . not loud but such a lovely sound when you on bike. The aerials are gone and replaced by a very short solid piece purchased at midas and in my opinion look way better.  Apart from suspension the rest of bike is stock standard and that could take another essay to explain. In a nutshell bike comes with air suspension (oil inside shock) and I understand no springs. What an effup of note. So you pump air into shock depending on weight but to be honest me mrs and luggage are over the limit kind of . then the air starts leaking out that every day you need to repump, that is not so much of an issue and riding on the motorway it is not bad. Any secondary road becomes a major issue though with bouncing, bad bad bottoming and kidneys sent through your spine into your neck. God help you if theres a smell of a pothole though. So blingking quotes 25k for shocks, ohlins over 30k, Malcom the mechanic 16k , me to bring in from states around 15k . my friendly hd ou got me a set of noname brand special from tjoina virus free guaranteed , they were a gamble before going to the big bucks, cost around 3k, me n vrou haven’t done a trip yet but so far with no luggage, a bit bouncy but handle well and no bottoming and well   to be honest we are not unhappy at this point in time .
Longest trip was from jhb to bloemhof,Kimberley, vic west ,graaf reinert and George over 3 sleeps touring. Return George pe somerset zastron jhb with only 2 sleeps.
So why did I buy the couch ..mrs cannot get leg over the adv anymore and now in our older days we have time and a bit of spare cash for touring and jolling (no children anymore) . we did look at rt and I liked the bm six a bit but they weren’t right for us, ditto a Goldwing . Yamaha fjr or whatever could have also been cool but the comfort levels we have are unbeatable. Funny thing though  vrou seems to prefer the gs and what we do is she climbs on first and then being very careful not to kick her in the cooky I slide on ..we do do similar with the couch and this method works very well.         


nice couch......haha they definitely could have improved the shocks i had two leaks on my previous couches.......

theres a big difference on the new CVO much improved with no air pumping now......i still tag the pump along on my road king as every now and again its needs to be firmed for the missus


nice overview on your bike

my road king is a 103

inspite of the shocks........which are just ok...... it is a very comfortable motorcycle

happy riding maybe see you on the road some time :thumleft:

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on June 12, 2020, 01:33:13 pm
Thinking of selling my wife's Harley 883 super low sportster .2015 and 3000km on stands in the lounge.
Any idea of a selling price?

call 021 4014260 ask for Jasen Crause

he will give you a good idea .......knows Harleys backwards
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on June 12, 2020, 03:44:26 pm
Soooooo i know im gonna get kak now  but i need a few opinions...

Can get this 2007 sportster 1200 for 40k, 43000km on the clock...now ...is this an acceptable purchase for a toppie, or are these models classed as a "girly" harley??  :deal:

thoughts ?

So Knuckl ...

17 pages and 2000 cool photos later, what did you get...?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 12, 2020, 06:16:45 pm
Standing still it looks fast
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: DirtRebell on June 12, 2020, 07:08:46 pm
https://www.facebook.com/700903226708948/posts/1921506914648567/

Check this beautiful Road King at Metal Heads.
They're pricing on most bikes seem good.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Kobus on June 14, 2020, 06:55:23 pm
Can accessories be purchased directly from overseas, or is it best via your dealer.

Got a quote from dealer talking about a 4-6 week wait.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on June 14, 2020, 07:12:55 pm
Can accessories be purchased directly from overseas, or is it best via your dealer.

Got a quote from dealer talking about a 4-6 week wait.

Harley Middle East & Africa is currently giving SA dealers the run around.
I have no idea why but that's what I was told  by staff @ H-D Rivonia before it closed its doors.

Bring it in yourself, with shipping etc it may not necessarily be cheaper but it will definitely get here quicker.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on June 14, 2020, 07:13:33 pm
What you after?

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Kobus on June 14, 2020, 08:26:32 pm
Bring it in from where?

Looking for lots of little stuff. New bike to bling.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on June 14, 2020, 09:54:31 pm
Bring it in from where?

Looking for lots of little stuff. New bike to bling.
The states I assume would be best. Try Aramex global shopper, worked well for me in the past.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: JFE on June 15, 2020, 04:46:31 am
Bring it in from where?

Looking for lots of little stuff. New bike to bling.
The states I assume would be best. Try Aramex global shopper, worked well for me in the past.

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With the current state of affairs in the US I’d rather use DHL. Aramex is flooded with orders, I have parcels delivered to then 4 weeks ago that has not even been registered for forwarding, the keep sending me this message that due to high volumes and the pandemic delays are expected.

I have used Demon Cycles in the past, they sell non OEM parts but you’ll never know the difference. Current handle bar on my FB is from them. They also ship direct.
Another shop I used before with excellent service is J&P Cycles, also do direct shipping.


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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on June 15, 2020, 07:47:32 am
Bring it in from where?

Looking for lots of little stuff. New bike to bling.
The states I assume would be best. Try Aramex global shopper, worked well for me in the past.

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With the current state of affairs in the US I’d rather use DHL. Aramex is flooded with orders, I have parcels delivered to then 4 weeks ago that has not even been registered for forwarding, the keep sending me this message that due to high volumes and the pandemic delays are expected.

I have used Demon Cycles in the past, they sell non OEM parts but you’ll never know the difference. Current handle bar on my FB is from them. They also ship direct.
Another shop I used before with excellent service is J&P Cycles, also do direct shipping.


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Awesome that sounds like good advice.  Thanks.

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Guido on June 18, 2020, 03:30:22 am
Can accessories be purchased directly from overseas, or is it best via your dealer.

Got a quote from dealer talking about a 4-6 week wait.

Harley Middle East & Africa is currently giving SA dealers the run around.
I have no idea why but that's what I was told  by staff @ H-D Rivonia before it closed its doors.

Bring it in yourself, with shipping etc it may not necessarily be cheaper but it will definitely get here quicker.

I would tend to agree with this, although it seems select dealers are having issues. I ordered parts for my roadglide in April 2019 from the umhlanga dealer, I’m still waiting for them to arrive, started  ordering parts from Hd jhb instead, there was a delay, but they always arrived within 8 weeks. Ordering certain oem parts online can be problematic, in that certain parts require your vin number to be inserted, if the bike is not registered in the USA ( or wherever you are trying to order parts from) they won’t ship them. It’s a pain In the ass. A good example of this is the screaming eagle pro street tuner. If you check the American parts catalogue you will see it is available for the 114 cu 2019 touring bikes, however, if you try order it through a dealer in Sa, it is not available. Go online, and you can select the tuner, add it to the basket on the Harley Davidson website, but if the shipping address in not in the USA, it will not let you purchase the item.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on June 18, 2020, 06:28:20 am
i am always a bit scared about ordering parts on mail order … once bitten i guess
i just go to my local workshop in edenvale and/or the big goldrand (did go to jhb 1 or 2 times but didn't find them much use) and wait a few weeks for the parts ..mostly i don't do fancy parts anymore... vrou says i spent way too much on my male Barbie doll accessories (",) ..go figger women u cant live with them and they don't allow you to sell the house for hd customisation
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on June 20, 2020, 08:13:27 pm
Picked up a quick release windscreen for the sporty, going to try it out tomorrow. Required me to make new aluminium brackets as my bikes forks are narrower than the later model bikes. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200620/50779cf28fcff87d10f1518fc565c69e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 21, 2020, 03:42:37 am
I work in Marysville Kansas currently, and the majority of bikes and thetr are quite a couple are Harleys.  So much so that they could have called the town Harleyville  :laughing4:
One of my managers has got a fatboy and a Springer (referred to front suspension) and he promised to call me one Sunday morning for a long outride.
He says it will have to be Kansas though, since you are required to wear helmets in Nebraska and we dont have any.
I have yet to see someone on a HD to wear a helmet in KS.
Can get very nice examples secondhand for usd 4k and if I knew my contract would have been renieved next year I would have seriously considered buying one since it give you that bit more freedom of movement where you are not allowed to go in tou off time with the company vehicle.
I do see HD here with serious mileage on them......80k plus miles is common.
Then there are many ones that are close to 20 years old with only 5k miles on them.....my manager fot one of them low mileage fatboys for a steal.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on June 27, 2020, 03:20:25 pm
I work in Marysville Kansas currently, and the majority of bikes and thetr are quite a couple are Harleys.  So much so that they could have called the town Harleyville  :laughing4:
One of my managers has got a fatboy and a Springer (referred to front suspension) and he promised to call me one Sunday morning for a long outride.
He says it will have to be Kansas though, since you are required to wear helmets in Nebraska and we dont have any.
I have yet to see someone on a HD to wear a helmet in KS.
Can get very nice examples secondhand for usd 4k and if I knew my contract would have been renieved next year I would have seriously considered buying one since it give you that bit more freedom of movement where you are not allowed to go in tou off time with the company vehicle.
I do see HD here with serious mileage on them......80k plus miles is common.
Then there are many ones that are close to 20 years old with only 5k miles on them.....my manager fot one of them low mileage fatboys for a steal.

TVB and Mother: it would be great if the two of you gave more info about riding in the US; road etiquette, helmet rules, anything that is usefull. I hope to deliver a bike from NY to FL in Aug. and thanks to Knuckle for his thread.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 28, 2020, 07:51:11 am
I work in Marysville Kansas currently, and the majority of bikes and thetr are quite a couple are Harleys.  So much so that they could have called the town Harleyville  :laughing4:
One of my managers has got a fatboy and a Springer (referred to front suspension) and he promised to call me one Sunday morning for a long outride.
He says it will have to be Kansas though, since you are required to wear helmets in Nebraska and we dont have any.
I have yet to see someone on a HD to wear a helmet in KS.
Can get very nice examples secondhand for usd 4k and if I knew my contract would have been renieved next year I would have seriously considered buying one since it give you that bit more freedom of movement where you are not allowed to go in tou off time with the company vehicle.
I do see HD here with serious mileage on them......80k plus miles is common.
Then there are many ones that are close to 20 years old with only 5k miles on them.....my manager fot one of them low mileage fatboys for a steal.

TVB and Mother: it would be great if the two of you gave more info about riding in the US; road etiquette, helmet rules, anything that is usefull. I hope to deliver a bike from NY to FL in Aug. and thanks to Knuckle for his thread.

Hi Ian

I work in Kansas (live here) and Nebraska but mostly KS. In Nebraska is compulsory to wear a helmet but in Kansas not at all, and you never (almost) see anyone riding with a helmet. The police don't really target bikers more than motorists but you will get in trouble real quick if you speed. You are allowed 5 mph over the speed limit which is 30 miles an hour (avg) in town and 65 miles an hour on the highways and 70 on the interstate. Whatever you do, don't speed.
Motorists give way to bikers, are more aware of bikes and it is without a doubt a lot safer riding a bike here and the roads are not busy in NE nor KS Except for bigger cities. You do not see bikers riding here with any ppe...nothing. Once in a while you'll see an adventure biker with some form of fall protection but it's like nobody knows about it here.....no jackets, not even gloves I kit you not. Personally if I would get a bike here I'll get a openface helmet and gloves.
The roads are very good condition, no potholes and if potholes appear after the rain it will get fixed right away, the same or next day.
The tar roads are generally not very smooth except for the interstate. Keep in mind it is a huge country and some of these roads are really old, think of it as the tar roads of the wild west, so there are many patches and joints but like said it's maintained and safe.
You dont need to lock anything away in NE nor KS, so luggage on your bike will still be there when you return from the restaurant.
For rules specific to bikers download the app 'dmv genie' Its free and at vehicle you choose bike and then just read through all the questions and answers, it is very useful.
Cheers
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Kobus on July 09, 2020, 07:50:10 pm
HD Tygervalley

Rumours that CT took over, now it looks closed.

Bad that they did not even update the website with any news.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 09, 2020, 08:07:22 pm
HD Tygervalley

Rumours that CT took over, now it looks closed.

Bad that they did not even update the website with any news.

Don't want to jeopardise any last minute sales. :pot:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on July 09, 2020, 08:23:51 pm


Quote from: Kobus on Today at 07:50:10 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=246005.msg4486114#msg4486114)>HD Tygervalley

Rumours that CT took over, now it looks closed.

Bad that they did not even update the website with any news.

Can confirm the HD CT did indeed buy all of HD TYG stock.
Same owner(s) bought HD JHB and HD Pretoria stock...not the businesses...the stock...
CTbranch also taken over that glass restaurant, on the end, so expanding, LONGEST bike shop I ever visited.
I reckon a Tygervalley Store will re-open, under CT...
Cheers
Chris


Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 10, 2020, 03:05:00 am


Quote from: Kobus on Today at 07:50:10 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=246005.msg4486114#msg4486114)>HD Tygervalley

Rumours that CT took over, now it looks closed.

Bad that they did not even update the website with any news.

Can confirm the HD CT did indeed buy all of HD TYG stock.
Same owner(s) bought HD JHB and HD Pretoria stock...not the businesses...the stock...
CTbranch also taken over that glass restaurant, on the end, so expanding, LONGEST bike shop I ever visited.
I reckon a Tygervalley Store will re-open, under CT...
Cheers
Chris


Thanks for the update Chris. I wish you could see the HD shop in Florida,  it is madness!!
It is huge, it is just  :drif: ......ok ek kort n lappie
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on July 10, 2020, 12:27:17 pm


Quote from: Kobus on Today at 07:50:10 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=246005.msg4486114#msg4486114)>HD Tygervalley

Rumours that CT took over, now it looks closed.

Bad that they did not even update the website with any news.

Can confirm the HD CT did indeed buy all of HD TYG stock.
Same owner(s) bought HD JHB and HD Pretoria stock...not the businesses...the stock...
CTbranch also taken over that glass restaurant, on the end, so expanding, LONGEST bike shop I ever visited.
I reckon a Tygervalley Store will re-open, under CT...
Cheers
Chris


Thanks for the update Chris. I wish you could see the HD shop in Florida,  it is madness!!
It is huge, it is just  :drif: ......ok ek kort n lappie

we once went to Harley Shop at Daytona beach its like a mall with its own escalator .........stores in the states are different level stuff

yip sorry for the pretoria sandton and tygervsalley people being swallowed up by the CT dealer monopoly

business and economy can be harsh reality at times
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 10, 2020, 12:45:55 pm
I read that Harley are in the process of restructuring and this will result in head count cuts.

Considering the current climate it seems the bosses do not expect a surge in sales or claw back some lost ground.

But harley still sell loads of bikes and the share price is still healthy ish .... my one solitary share in the company is still in green territory
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on July 10, 2020, 12:50:22 pm
I work in Marysville Kansas currently, and the majority of bikes and thetr are quite a couple are Harleys.  So much so that they could have called the town Harleyville  :laughing4:
One of my managers has got a fatboy and a Springer (referred to front suspension) and he promised to call me one Sunday morning for a long outride.
He says it will have to be Kansas though, since you are required to wear helmets in Nebraska and we dont have any.
I have yet to see someone on a HD to wear a helmet in KS.
Can get very nice examples secondhand for usd 4k and if I knew my contract would have been renieved next year I would have seriously considered buying one since it give you that bit more freedom of movement where you are not allowed to go in tou off time with the company vehicle.
I do see HD here with serious mileage on them......80k plus miles is common.
Then there are many ones that are close to 20 years old with only 5k miles on them.....my manager fot one of them low mileage fatboys for a steal.

TVB and Mother: it would be great if the two of you gave more info about riding in the US; road etiquette, helmet rules, anything that is usefull. I hope to deliver a bike from NY to FL in Aug. and thanks to Knuckle for his thread.

Hi Ian
my first trip ever to the States was just my wife and i and we had a more or less coast to coast route
things i learnt on the 4 trips and nearly 30000km around the states we did
do a bit of home work there might be some landmarks or things you want to see and with a slight detour might be worth the extra miles
my iphone and ipad was a winner to access information
try to get a local sim card for access only on 3G/4G
when crossing interstate places the info centres are extreemly helpful
we rode with helmets all the time as the rules differ from state to state and i couldnt be bothered checking which is which
i found the dealers and fellow bikers friendly of note but there are those tanned/tattooed  bikers that will judge you thinking you a newby wannabe biker.........just be polite
we greeted every one we rode past its a thing there.......i grew up that way here too
people in America are friendly and helpful
sit down restaurants are expensive except cracker barrel for a home style cooked meal
garage shop and fast food is cheaper by far to fill up
tons of motels and cheap hotels
tons of dodgy places too
NY to FL
not sure on time but these are places i liked in this more or less area
Lynchberg Jack Daniels brewery
HD York factory
Blue Ridge Highway
Barber Motorcycle Museum in Birmingham Alabama
Orange County Choppers
hope you get to enjoy your trip with all this covid bullshit going on and it doesnt skrew with it




Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 11, 2020, 02:09:32 am
I will confirm that people in the States especially rural or country side America is very friendly!!
The picture I have painted about the States after watching movies all the years and then what you get on the news and social media was rather different.
I love America, and I believe every visitor will or may feel the same, it's a great country and not planning is necessary for s trip other than places of interest on your planned journey.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on July 11, 2020, 02:42:44 am
I work in Marysville Kansas currently, and the majority of bikes and thetr are quite a couple are Harleys.  So much so that they could have called the town Harleyville  :laughing4:
One of my managers has got a fatboy and a Springer (referred to front suspension) and he promised to call me one Sunday morning for a long outride.
He says it will have to be Kansas though, since you are required to wear helmets in Nebraska and we dont have any.
I have yet to see someone on a HD to wear a helmet in KS.
Can get very nice examples secondhand for usd 4k and if I knew my contract would have been renieved next year I would have seriously considered buying one since it give you that bit more freedom of movement where you are not allowed to go in tou off time with the company vehicle.
I do see HD here with serious mileage on them......80k plus miles is common.
Then there are many ones that are close to 20 years old with only 5k miles on them.....my manager fot one of them low mileage fatboys for a steal.

TVB and Mother: it would be great if the two of you gave more info about riding in the US; road etiquette, helmet rules, anything that is usefull. I hope to deliver a bike from NY to FL in Aug. and thanks to Knuckle for his thread.

Hi Ian
my first trip ever to the States was just my wife and i and we had a more or less coast to coast route
things i learnt on the 4 trips and nearly 30000km around the states we did
do a bit of home work there might be some landmarks or things you want to see and with a slight detour might be worth the extra miles
my iphone and ipad was a winner to access information
try to get a local sim card for access only on 3G/4G
when crossing interstate places the info centres are extreemly helpful
we rode with helmets all the time as the rules differ from state to state and i couldnt be bothered checking which is which
i found the dealers and fellow bikers friendly of note but there are those tanned/tattooed  bikers that will judge you thinking you a newby wannabe biker.........just be polite
we greeted every one we rode past its a thing there.......i grew up that way here too
people in America are friendly and helpful
sit down restaurants are expensive except cracker barrel for a home style cooked meal
garage shop and fast food is cheaper by far to fill up
tons of motels and cheap hotels
tons of dodgy places too
NY to FL
not sure on time but these are places i liked in this more or less area
Lynchberg Jack Daniels brewery
HD York factory
Blue Ridge Highway
Barber Motorcycle Museum in Birmingham Alabama
Orange County Choppers
hope you get to enjoy your trip with all this covid bullshit going on and it doesnt skrew with it

Thank you to both Mother & Tom, lots of good info, appreciated.
I have a decision to make about this trip, assuming I can even get to NY, the ride down would be great but then I need to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale or Miami and that is the hectic part. Southern US a hotbed of CV right now, so not to be taken lightly.
Cheers. Ian

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Brewed_Coffee on July 11, 2020, 12:19:06 pm
Soooooo i know im gonna get kak now  but i need a few opinions...

Can get this 2007 sportster 1200 for 40k, 43000km on the clock...now ...is this an acceptable purchase for a toppie, or are these models classed as a "girly" harley??  :deal:

thoughts ?

Fuggem, if they think otherwise .....

If it itches, scratch!

 :snorting:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 11, 2020, 01:34:13 pm
Soooooo i know im gonna get kak now  but i need a few opinions...

Can get this 2007 sportster 1200 for 40k, 43000km on the clock...now ...is this an acceptable purchase for a toppie, or are these models classed as a "girly" harley??  :deal:

thoughts ?

Fuggem, if they think otherwise .....

If it itches, scratch!

 :snorting:

Many men are riding sportsters here in the States, nothing girlish about it. Many as for in common sight woman here are riding big HD like Heritage  and fatboy.
Ride what you can afford  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 11, 2020, 02:35:46 pm
Get yr motor running.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: jaybiker on July 11, 2020, 07:13:00 pm
Cruisers at the Ace? Man, how things have changed!  :o

Time was that you were no more likely to see a Harley there than a fur trimmed Lambretta!  :eek7:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 11, 2020, 08:40:44 pm
Cruisers at the Ace? Man, how things have changed!  :o

Time was that you were no more likely to see a Harley there than a fur trimmed Lambretta!  :eek7:

I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw ICM's photo! :imaposer:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 11, 2020, 08:45:47 pm
You dinosaurs need to get with it man.  :biggrin:

My in laws used to go the ace in late 50s early 60s. Ole man had a bonnie back then.

Shmaaak the ace. Lekker history and time to chill a bit.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 11, 2020, 08:55:25 pm
You dinosaurs need to get with it man.  :biggrin:

My in laws used to go the ace in late 50s early 60s. Ole man had a bonnie back then.

Shmaaak the ace. Lekker history and time to chill a bit.

A Bonny mos wasn't a Harley, ek se! :pot:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 11, 2020, 09:16:03 pm
You dinosaurs need to get with it man.  :biggrin:

My in laws used to go the ace in late 50s early 60s. Ole man had a bonnie back then.

Shmaaak the ace. Lekker history and time to chill a bit.

A Bonny mos wasn't a Harley, ek se! :pot:

Good to see the memory not gone yet.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on July 13, 2020, 12:47:37 pm
tend to agree dont put down a sporty

my olman used to ride all over the country side with his  O0 :thumleft: 8)

its all about biking and what rings your bell and budget
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on July 14, 2020, 03:45:16 pm
 touring with a loaded Sporster
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on July 14, 2020, 03:47:11 pm
Soooooo i know im gonna get kak now  but i need a few opinions...

Can get this 2007 sportster 1200 for 40k, 43000km on the clock...now ...is this an acceptable purchase for a toppie, or are these models classed as a "girly" harley??  :deal:

thoughts ?

nope nothing girlish.....my dad rode many many miles on his

Fuggem, if they think otherwise .....

If it itches, scratch!

 :snorting:

Many men are riding sportsters here in the States, nothing girlish about it. Many as for in common sight woman here are riding big HD like Heritage  and fatboy.
Ride what you can afford  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on July 14, 2020, 03:48:09 pm
Brilliant makes me want to pack my sporty and hit the road....well when we allowed to travel that is!

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on July 20, 2020, 04:09:12 pm
Picked up a quick release windscreen for the sporty, going to try it out tomorrow. Required me to make new aluminium brackets as my bikes forks are narrower than the later model bikes. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200620/50779cf28fcff87d10f1518fc565c69e.jpg)

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So done around 400km with this windschield on and am not sure about it. It certainly makes it more comfortable going fast in a straight line. HOWEVER I have had 2 scary experiences with it on fast curves where the steering doesnt want to turn. I guess it makes sense since there is a lot of wind pushing on the forks. This has me wondering if I should just put up with the wind on my chest for the better handling.

Anyone else experienced this issue?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on July 21, 2020, 07:05:20 am
Not at all.
Is it happening in both directions or only one ?

Are you not perhaps hooking a cable ?
I've had that happen after installing a screen before.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: lukestrugnell on July 21, 2020, 07:08:00 am
Not at all.
Is it happening in both directions or only one ?

Are you not perhaps hooking a cable ?
I've had that happen after installing a screen before.
Hmmm not sure I will check. Both times curving to the right now that you mention it.

Thanks

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Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on July 24, 2020, 10:04:00 am
hi i follow a sight killboy.com its in the states and they do photo shoots of the many people who ride the tail of the dragon in North Carolina

obviously one has to pay for their pics so i just borrowed this to show you how the guys tour on their sporsters

this was to take away the fact that its not necessary a "girl" bike and can be turned into a nice cheap less bulky touring machine as shown in this pic
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on August 01, 2020, 03:59:08 pm
hi i follow a sight killboy.com its in the states and they do photo shoots of the many people who ride the tail of the dragon in North Carolina

obviously one has to pay for their pics so i just borrowed this to show you how the guys tour on their sporsters

this was to take away the fact that its not necessary a "girl" bike and can be turned into a nice cheap less bulky touring machine as shown in this pic

Did you ride the Tail of the Dragon when you toured America, Mother? 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Welsh on August 01, 2020, 05:54:07 pm
I thought the "girls bike" was more in reference to the 883 not the 1200, the 883 is a bit soft, yes I have ridden one.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on August 03, 2020, 02:18:18 pm
hi i follow a sight killboy.com its in the states and they do photo shoots of the many people who ride the tail of the dragon in North Carolina

obviously one has to pay for their pics so i just borrowed this to show you how the guys tour on their sporsters

this was to take away the fact that its not necessary a "girl" bike and can be turned into a nice cheap less bulky touring machine as shown in this pic

Did you ride the Tail of the Dragon when you toured America, Mother?

yes i did it once on our 2013 trip
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on August 03, 2020, 03:47:17 pm
hi i follow a sight killboy.com its in the states and they do photo shoots of the many people who ride the tail of the dragon in North Carolina

obviously one has to pay for their pics so i just borrowed this to show you how the guys tour on their sporsters

this was to take away the fact that its not necessary a "girl" bike and can be turned into a nice cheap less bulky touring machine as shown in this pic

Did you ride the Tail of the Dragon when you toured America, Mother?

yes i did it once on our 2013 trip

Glad you survived the most dangerous 11 miles in the USA  :thumleft:

There's a stretch not far south from the Dragon called the Cherohala Skyway, runs from Robbinsville, North Carolina to Tellico Plains, Tennessee.

Fabulous stretch, high elevation, with wide high speed sweepers.  Also, a very cool covered bridge and Harley dealer on the western end near Tellico Plains. 

Just incase you ever make it back to that area.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Guido on August 23, 2020, 01:53:20 pm
A couple of mine....

In order

2019 roadglide special
2006 vrscr streetrod
2010 dyna fatbob

Absolutely love them.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on September 04, 2020, 08:04:33 am
free to a good home that wants and can use ..don't really wanna postnet but i guess could make a plan for your cost

hd mini apes off 98 1340 fxstc (soft tail custom) ...i may have carrier and small touring screen i can scratch for but no promises there …
ps apes not on pic ..just for screen n carrier but as i say no guarantee i still have
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: madmax on September 10, 2020, 10:57:27 am
would anyone have for sale or know where i can get a bike dolly/stand on wheels..put ultra on then able to wheel around and park in small garage etc something like

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but at a half decent price..i need like 3 or 4 of these and prices seem ridiculous
Title: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lord Knormoer on September 10, 2020, 11:08:12 am
would anyone have for sale or know where i can get a bike dolly/stand on wheels..put ultra on then able to wheel around and park in small garage etc something like

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but at a half decent price..i need like 3 or 4 of these and prices seem ridiculous
Have you checked with Flying Brick?

Given the weight of the bike requiring heavy gauge steel, heavy duty castors and a wheel chock, it won’t be cheap to fabricate.

I use a small version I bought off Amazon in the UK that’s basically a plate with castors for the centre stand. It makes it easier to twist the bike around but still required a bit of manhandling given either the front or rear wheel restricts lateral movement. Great to simply pivot into place though.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on September 10, 2020, 11:28:43 am
@Lord Knormoer (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16387)  - thanks!

Yes, we are Agents for Bike Parker, including the Bike Parker TOTAL SOLUTION, seen in the video...

It is SOUTH AFRICAN made, and it is made well - for example, bearing races in the castors, that level of detail, and up to 450Kg bikes!

Total Park Solution R3 695.00 incl per unit (For bikes with a mass up to 200kg)
Total Park Solution R3 995.00 incl per unit (For bikes with a mass up to 300kg)
Total Park Solution R5 095.00 incl per unit (For bikes with a mass over 300kg)

The Total Park Solution is suitable for heavier bikes. Simply drive your bike onto the model. Once the wheel is locked into position, you can dismount. To move the bike in any direction, unlock the Total Park Solution brakes and push the bike.
We often carry stock, or else allow 3 - 5 working days for delivery; we CURRENTLY have ONE 300kg PLUS Total Solution Bike Parker in stock

Chris & Team
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Cracker on September 10, 2020, 01:02:27 pm
Maybe a silly question, but how do you get your bike back off that thing?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on September 10, 2020, 01:11:04 pm


Quote from: Cracker on Today at 01:02:27 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=246005.msg4517195#msg4517195)>Maybe a silly question, but how do you get your bike back off that thing?
not a silly question at all: ...you reverse the process of how you put it on  ;)
It's easier than you would think, just needs one GOOD tug of the handlebars to release the wheel 'grabber', and it rolls back off....
Cheers
Chris


Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Lord Knormoer on September 10, 2020, 01:40:20 pm


Quote from: Cracker on Today at 01:02:27 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=246005.msg4517195#msg4517195)>Maybe a silly question, but how do you get your bike back off that thing?
not a silly question at all: ...you reverse the process of how you put it on  ;)
It's easier than you would think, just needs one GOOD tug of the handlebars to release the wheel 'grabber', and it rolls back off....
Cheers
Chris

Useful to add that the castors have brakes.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on September 10, 2020, 02:15:33 pm
yes, Castors have brakes, so no squirreling around of the Bike Parker whilst you drive onto it!


(thanks, LK!)


Chris
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Mother on September 16, 2020, 11:10:04 am
i have had one of these for my Harleys

be aware that if you have the rubber mat flooring in your garage or tiles its not so easy to move the heavy motorcycle around

so unless your floors are smooth you might find this a frustrating option.....

the reason i sold mine in the end
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on October 06, 2020, 01:04:42 am
hi i follow a sight killboy.com its in the states and they do photo shoots of the many people who ride the tail of the dragon in North Carolina

obviously one has to pay for their pics so i just borrowed this to show you how the guys tour on their sporsters

this was to take away the fact that its not necessary a "girl" bike and can be turned into a nice cheap less bulky touring machine as shown in this pic

Did you ride the Tail of the Dragon when you toured America, Mother?

yes i did it once on our 2013 trip

I have a pic somewhere of myself in front of the Dragon, I'll see if I can find it. 

Fun stretch of road, though deadly, lots of people lose their lives on that stretch each year. 

Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: Offshore on October 06, 2020, 06:29:39 pm
My 2003 with its 21 Inch Front and low CoG near Mosselbay Today.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on October 06, 2020, 11:30:17 pm
Dêm daai dêng is mooi!!! :thumleft: :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson
Post by: big oil on October 07, 2020, 10:31:55 pm
Dat deuce purty