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Title: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Dirt Junkie on March 05, 2020, 09:41:00 am
Hi All
I'm thinking of buying a DRZ400 the plan is to use it mostly as a light weight adventure bike for a couple of months before buying a 701

My worries are reliability, power and comfort for a 350km trip p/day, also not sure what to look out for as I don't know these bikes

I've owned a KTM640adv and some KTM690's

Looking at this one Saturday not sure on the model and year, budget is R20k

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Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: madmax on March 05, 2020, 10:07:49 am
love my drz ..if airbox mod done plenty power.. no issues with reliability ..350k in dirt no issue if u stand all day.. seat terrible and pain in ass but if u sit far back a bit better 
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: the ruffian on March 05, 2020, 10:10:25 am
Buy it. Fantastic bikes. Easy to work on on. Ultra-reliable. No problem on the long road, if you ride at the sweet spot.

Ride it until your new bike, and then sell it to me... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 05, 2020, 10:45:38 am
Kry n skaap velletjie om jou gat se probleme te sort. Long range tanks is net kark skaars vir hulle, anders is dit n ideale bike.

Vra vir Sidetrack.
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: GravelFox on March 05, 2020, 01:30:21 pm
Agree about the seat. Mine had a hard aftermarket type of seat cover and was like a ďplankĒ. Further very nice.


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Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Ri on March 05, 2020, 02:10:55 pm
Met a guy in Namibia who rode from Switzerland down the West Coast of Africa to Cape Town on his lowered DRZ400. Was going to ship it home from Cape Town but  decided neither he nor bike was tired, and rode back up to Switzerland via the East Coast of Africa. 14,000km later and no hassles. He tours it all over the world.
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2020, 02:11:54 pm
Weird mods on that one, rear light etc. Anyway great bikes, what reliability problems mine had almost 100 000km on it when I last saw it. Just check the oil often, dry sump baffles brains.
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 05, 2020, 02:14:11 pm
Waterpump impeller is one of the known issues aint it?
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Dirt Junkie on March 05, 2020, 02:21:20 pm
Thanks for all the input so far
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 05, 2020, 02:22:28 pm
Im also contemplating selling the GSA for a DRz ...
Title: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: GravelFox on March 05, 2020, 02:22:49 pm
Weird mods on that one, rear light etc. Anyway great bikes, what reliability problems mine had almost 100 000km on it when I last saw it. Just check the oil often, dry sump baffles brains.
I think that tail light was an aftermarket kit to make the E model road legal. Mine had it on before I restored it back to normal.


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Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: trevo on March 05, 2020, 02:23:48 pm
Waterpump impeller is one of the known issues aint it?

Not to my knowledge, I got 3 of them, one for the past 14 years no water pump issues, only done shimming still runs fine, check the stator and clutch casings for damage from the levers, normally from falling over and cracks the casings, 1st farkel to add.
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 05, 2020, 02:26:05 pm
I have the aftermarket tail light i had on my DRz on my XR600 nowadays
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 05, 2020, 02:28:07 pm
Good to hear
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: GravelFox on March 05, 2020, 02:29:33 pm
Waterpump impeller is one of the known issues aint it?

Not to my knowledge, I got 3 of them, one for the past 14 years no water pump issues, only done shimming still runs fine, check the stator and clutch casings for damage from the levers, normally from falling over and cracks the casings, 1st farkel to add.

Sorry for the high jack...Trevo you are the one with the DRZ we normally met at the Graskop Grasren outside Heilbron?


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Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: trevo on March 05, 2020, 02:33:45 pm
I still have the standard tail light available if required,
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2020, 02:33:48 pm
Weird mods on that one, rear light etc. Anyway great bikes, what reliability problems mine had almost 100 000km on it when I last saw it. Just check the oil often, dry sump baffles brains.
I think that tail light was an aftermarket kit to make the E model road legal. Mine had it on before I restored it back to normal.


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The E we got in SA was the same as Aussie spec with proper Suzuki lights, flickers etc. The older off road E as you said did not have any additional lights, just be careful as a whilst back someone said they are difficult to register on the road as the Enatis might indicate off road only.
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: trevo on March 05, 2020, 02:36:36 pm
Waterpump impeller is one of the known issues aint it?

Not to my knowledge, I got 3 of them, one for the past 14 years no water pump issues, only done shimming still runs fine, check the stator and clutch casings for damage from the levers, normally from falling over and cracks the casings, 1st farkel to add.

Sorry for the high jack...Trevo you are the one with the DRZ we normally met at the Graskop Grasren outside Heilbron?


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Jip that`s me  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: GravelFox on March 05, 2020, 02:41:28 pm
Lekker man


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Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Dirt Junkie on March 05, 2020, 03:02:23 pm
Weird mods on that one, rear light etc. Anyway great bikes, what reliability problems mine had almost 100 000km on it when I last saw it. Just check the oil often, dry sump baffles brains.
I think that tail light was an aftermarket kit to make the E model road legal. Mine had it on before I restored it back to normal.


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The E we got in SA was the same as Aussie spec with proper Suzuki lights, flickers etc. The older off road E as you said did not have any additional lights, just be careful as a whilst back someone said they are difficult to register on the road as the Enatis might indicate off road only.
the bike is on the road and registered so no problem there
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Dirt Junkie on March 05, 2020, 03:05:25 pm
Weird mods on that one, rear light etc. Anyway great bikes, what reliability problems mine had almost 100 000km on it when I last saw it. Just check the oil often, dry sump baffles brains.
I think that tail light was an aftermarket kit to make the E model road legal. Mine had it on before I restored it back to normal.


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first things to go will be that ugly rear light and the stuff on the spokes followed by proper tires, hand guards and all the other must do mods like the casing protectors, I will need to find a long range tank
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Ri on March 05, 2020, 06:02:14 pm
Waterpump impeller is one of the known issues aint it?

Not to my knowledge, I got 3 of them, one for the past 14 years no water pump issues, only done shimming still runs fine, check the stator and clutch casings for damage from the levers, normally from falling over and cracks the casings, 1st farkel to add.

And people mock me because of my DRs ::)
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 05, 2020, 06:18:06 pm
Ri, julle is mos so lief om te farkle.....di DRz is n DR op steroids!! :imaposer:
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Ri on March 06, 2020, 06:06:06 am
Ri, julle is mos so lief om te farkle.....di DRz is n DR op steroids!! :imaposer:

Is omdat die goed so cheap is om mee te begin, baie geld oor vir farkles :laughing4:

Vandat ek Werner Williman se DRZ400 gesien het wil ek ook een hÍ, maar my finansies is bietjie fu op hierdie stadium.

Custom Wilbur shock vir sy gewig, custom seat, etc etc.... HIERDIE is nou 'n gefarklede beaut :drif: :drif: :drif:

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Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 06, 2020, 06:15:46 am
Liewe hemel!!!! Daai 1ste foto gee n GS ryer n run v sy money!!! :imaposer:
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: the ruffian on March 06, 2020, 06:29:56 am
Yah (since the hijack is on), his farkles look kak (except for the tank) - all that rally shite detracts from the essence of a DRZ ( or DR for that matter), but I like his enamel cup...
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Ri on March 06, 2020, 06:54:23 am
This is not a hijack, this is inspiration :imaposer:

True, I wouldn't go for most of this stuff, but a custom seat and a bigger tank are must haves. I think Werner also changed his sprocket sizes. He did to his DRZ400 what guys are now doing to KTM500s to turn it from an enduro into a light weight tourer bike. Except it's a DRZ so you don't need a 500-page thread to document all the changes you'll need to make  :deal: :pot:
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Grunder on March 06, 2020, 07:16:07 am


Except it's a DRZ so you don't need a 500-page thread to document all the changes you'll need to make  :deal: :pot:

Oh Snap!!

Haha

Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: trevo on March 06, 2020, 08:10:18 am


Except it's a DRZ so you don't need a 500-page thread to document all the changes you'll need to make  :deal: :pot:

Oh Snap!!

Haha

Picked this one up last year for 26K, 12000km, aftermarket suspension, long range tank etc, ditch the Dakar wannebe fairing and fit the standard head light for my type of riding. Completed numerous local events, 2 NDBA`s and 1 LDBA (all black routes) on my way to Lesotho next weekend with Losper, money well spend
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: LouisXander on March 06, 2020, 08:14:09 am
They are competent bikes, pronto. Lived in the shade of the ktm450/525 for a long time, also linked to the fact that people think bigger is better.
Title: Re: Input needed DRZ400
Post by: Heddles on September 27, 2020, 05:06:22 am
Iíve had one for almost ten years. It was nine years old when I bought it already. 2001e.
The previous owner brought the bike in from Vermont. He didnít do it properly so it had a papers issue. It had apparently done very long rides over there and the owner had tried to maintain it himself with limited knowledge by his own admission. He said he had done the Baja routes a few times with it. It did show in its condition.
First issue I had was a noise in the engine. I somehow thought it was crank related so I stripped it down..  Everything was at the new side of the spectrum according to the Suzuki Workshop manual. I fitted a new set of main bearings purely out of added precaution. When I got it running again, the noise was still there.
I rode it for a while and the noise didnít get worse. Eventually, I discovered (after talking to a few people in the know) that the clutch basket was rattling. I was ripped a new one by a clown who sold me a used one that was admittedly better than the one in the motor and the noise was quieter but still there. It reached the same level  of audibility as the old one, so knowing that it was the clutch basket, I just carried on riding it. I eventually changed the chassis with one with papers to sort out the registration issue. I found an Acerbis 16 liter tank for it, it had a ProMoto Billet luggage rack when I bought it and whole bunch of Baja lights and stuff. The headlamp had a stone thrown at it and the glass broke so I fitted another lamp and with that came LED indicators, an Enduro style tail lamp, then LED headlamp bulb. I rode it for a while till I started the collection. Now itís pretty much a spare bike. Reliable as the day is long. I try not to let people ride it who are going to hang on the throttle cables for long periods of time. Keep the oil level right, oil change every year and its a great little bike. A few okes have offered me stupidly low offers for it so it can stay in my garage.  Itís probably going to get a front suspension upgrade soon and I want to tidy up the wiring. I left the Baja harness on it and itís a bit of a bunched up mess. So I will rewire it and remove the harness.

In short, they are really nice little bikes. If I was looking now, for an only bike, Iíd probably go for the 650 mainly because they are a bit more forgiving but if youíre in no hurry and youíre riding for the enjoyment and not riding a race, they are remarkably reliable.

I found a set of plastics for it with a full FMF system a few years ago. I still have a bunch of spares for it.