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Title: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: GeenSand on March 19, 2020, 09:19:44 pm
What and where would be best to buy.
Honda CTX
Suzuki TF
Yamaha AG
Honda ctx not forsale as new anymore only xr125.
I just saw that the suzuki TF is still sold in SA dont know about licensed but its a 2 smoker..
Yamaha lists the AG (offroad use only) and DT (P O A) suppose not sold anymore.

Edit: Does not need to be registered, if it has paperwork it would be scrapped. For farm use only.


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Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on March 19, 2020, 11:46:14 pm
 suzuki TF

Jy kan maar die TF koop, rateltaai :deal:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Tribes on March 20, 2020, 05:19:10 am
Honda Crf 230 het ook nie einde nie, die meeste boere in ons omgewing gebruik hulle. Die Ctx bushlander is baie skaars, veral een in 'n goeie toestand.
Sal nie na die xr 125 kyk nie eerder die 150 of 190 xr as jy wil nuut koop.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: GeenSand on March 20, 2020, 05:47:14 am
Ek het vergeet om te noem dat die hulp 'n baie kort mens is en sukkel om sy voete op die grond te kry op 'n  honda xl185. So die fiets moet 'n lae sit plek h. Ons buurman het ook 'n crf 230 maar ek glo nie die hulp sal sy foete find op dit nie.

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Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: BFG on March 20, 2020, 05:54:49 am
Yamaha still do the DT, the AG and the TW200 new but they cannot be registered for road use.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: VaalBaas on March 20, 2020, 05:58:51 am
Wou net vra hoekom nie n TW... hy is lekker laag en n kannieddod
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: B.V. on March 20, 2020, 06:44:42 am
Het 4 Suzuki Dr 200s op plaas. Jy doen nie 10 000 km met n stel valves nie. 1 het 4600km gedoen. Anders as dit geen probleme. Het n 1991 model met 65000km op. Average 24km/l
Het hom nog n DF genoem. Sal ek weer 1 koop Nee
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Grabouw Suzuki het 1 Tf wat daar staan nuut. 2 Stroke nie te bad iedee nie solank jy nie self met hom ry nie. Goeie enjins.

Tw 200. Uitestekende fietse . Tussen 3 op plaas.het ek al 1 regulator vervang. 2 het al oor 70 000km op. 1 5000km. Oudste 1 is n 1994 model. Ry kak maar min tot geen onderhoud.As jy nie swingarm gries nie roes hulle vas. Kak job. Het gries nipples so gries hulle.
Honda 125 Het 1 met 4500km op.
Honda se klien fietse het swak vurk seels. Kak gereeld. Hou ook glad nie van warm loop nie. Buur plaas  het 5. Na n jaar word enjins gedoen. Volkies laat hulle te veel idle. Stof glip ook verby air filter.
Sal vorentoe slegs TW 200 koop.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: chopperpilot on March 20, 2020, 06:55:40 am
DR 200 is ń puik opsie, veral vir ń kort persoon.



My vrou het 2 gehad.

Agterskokbreker se onderste mounting is "off-centre" om hoogte te verstel.

B.V. Jou werkers is rof op daai enjins!

TW 200 is ook ń opsie vir ń kort persoon.

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Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Greenshields on March 20, 2020, 07:00:20 am
I have had only two farm bikes in 30 years,both TW 200's,they are indestructible,low maintenance,and most importantly,foolproof.You do not fall off a TW.Sand,rocks make no difference to those fat tekkies and low centre of gravity.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Straatkat on March 20, 2020, 07:36:59 am
The problem with all the bikes mentioned above is that they are very dangerous. They are so slow you will fall asleep riding them and have a terrible accident. I suggest a KTM 500
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: trevo on March 20, 2020, 08:27:59 am
TW200 costs of tires?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: gser on March 20, 2020, 08:42:09 am
AG 200 .. a true workhorse ...
Side stands both sides., enclosed finale chain drive, neutral at bottom of selector - no false neutrals . clutch lever has a quick sub lever to engage the clutch while in gear for say stop to open a gate, etc. , huge strong loading rack at rear end one small one in front of the handlebar, handlebar lever protectors in place , rim locks front and rear are standard ( mine was) , and more. . . . a true workhorse
I changed the final gearing to cruse at about 100 km/h on dirt highway plus to do some gnarly single tracks with a load ....
together with reliability and low cost of ownership  .... to me a clear winner !
I also had a Suzuki DF 200 , also an AG bike. It was not as tough as the AG 200 , by a mile.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: B.V. on March 20, 2020, 08:47:46 am
TW200 costs of tires?
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Min of mer selfde prys as Dr s,n. Ek gebruik Kendas.

Ek ry self n Dr200. Hou nie van handling op Tw200 nie.
Nie seker nie maar dink Honda's kom uit Indie uit. Res Japan.
Ons ry maar baie lae spoed. Plaas is maar 100 hektaar. so bikes kom min oor 60.
Op Dr200 sluit die needle soms want throttle word slegs in die eerste 3de gebruik.
Kan al n Dr 200 se valves stel sonder n feeler gauge.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: VaalBaas on March 20, 2020, 08:55:20 am
The problem with all the bikes mentioned above is that they are very dangerous. They are so slow you will fall asleep riding them and have a terrible accident. I suggest a KTM 500

 :lol8: :lol8:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2020, 08:55:23 am
Vir n hulp wat slegs op n plaas rondry sal ek net n TF125 2stroke koop.

Geen valves :thumleft:
Geen olieruil stories nie :thumleft:
Letterlik ry en parkeer :thumleft:
Beter wringkrag laag af as soortgelyke 4slag :thumleft:
Loop BAIE koeler as 4slag :thumleft:
Ruik aansienlik meer aangenaam as 4slag :thumleft:
Uitlaat stiller as 4slag :thumleft:
TF125 definitief taaier as enige 4slag. :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2020, 08:56:27 am
The problem with all the bikes mentioned above is that they are very dangerous. They are so slow you will fall asleep riding them and have a terrible accident. I suggest a KTM 500

 :lol8: :lol8:

Or, for even slightly less money, a good condition KX500?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Appel on March 20, 2020, 09:06:56 am
We have a couple of bikes here so I'll add my 10 cents. I dont realy watch the kilometers, but how many years they last. These bikes have a very hard life.

Tf 125's, brilliant little bikes, being 2 stroke they oil up their exhausts quite quickly if idled around all day. They need a good run regularly.

Dr 200's, no issues but they are a bit tall for some.( overall pants keep splitting LOL). Have never had to replace valves yet but you have to adjust them often.

I bought a Suzuki Van Van 125 a while ago as the yamahas were crazy expensive and we needed a bike for a area which is all sand. This one is unbeleivable, has over 50 000km and all that has been replaced is the injector. The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!) so it has become a push start model for now.
The 14" rear tyres are sometimes hard to get, The yamaha TW and AG"s have the same.

The Yamaha TW and AG are the granddaddys of farm bikes but have become costly. They are available 2nd hand now and then.
Honda 150"s. seem to be ok so far, fork seals go quickly. The aftermarket seals seem to last better that the OE ones. Well priced bikes, but you miss things like a front carrier.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on March 20, 2020, 10:10:05 am
Al wat ek hier gaan s is: "Bushlander"

Ek kan nog nooit verstaan hoekom, sodra daar iets is wat werk (motorfietse, bakkies, sagteware, noem maar op), dan haal hulle dit van die mark af en vervang dit met iets wat swakker is, nie so lank hou nie, minder bruikbare funksies het, meer elektronika en meer onderhoud verlang.

Die TW is 'n uitsondering lyk my.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: GeenSand on March 20, 2020, 10:13:24 am
The problem with all the bikes mentioned above is that they are very dangerous. They are so slow you will fall asleep riding them and have a terrible accident. I suggest a KTM 500

 8: 8:

Or, for even slightly less money, a good condition KX500?
It needs to be slow..for herding sheep in die veld.. in the karoo nothing has to happen quickly. It is hot and dry so no use to let the animals run if not needed.

I do like the idea of the 2stroke Suzuki. less engine maintainance. Had a TS185 that lasted quite well. Engine apears looks to be the same. Will speak to a dealer and see if i can find a decent low milage one. New it quite expensive to let the help ride it.

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Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on March 20, 2020, 10:16:11 am
The problem with all the bikes mentioned above is that they are very dangerous. They are so slow you will fall asleep riding them and have a terrible accident. I suggest a KTM 500

 8: 8:

Or, for even slightly less money, a good condition KX500?
It needs to be slow..for herding sheep in die veld.. in the karoo nothing has to happen quickly. It is hot and dry so no use to let the animals run if not needed.

I do like the idea of the 2stroke Suzuki. less engine maintainance. Had a TS185 that lasted quite well. Engine apears looks to be the same. Will speak to a dealer and see if i can find a decent low milage one. New it quite expensive to let the help ride it.

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Anything is expensive if the help rides or uses it.  And it won't last.  Tarzan vellies last quite well, are slow enough to herd sheep, cheap and only need a daily polish in the line of maintenance.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on March 20, 2020, 10:50:54 am
Vir n hulp wat slegs op n plaas rondry sal ek net n TF125 2stroke koop.

Geen valves :thumleft:
Geen olieruil stories nie :thumleft:
Letterlik ry en parkeer :thumleft:
Beter wringkrag laag af as soortgelyke 4slag :thumleft:
Loop BAIE koeler as 4slag :thumleft:
Ruik aansienlik meer aangenaam as 4slag :thumleft:
Uitlaat stiller as 4slag :thumleft:
TF125 definitief taaier as enige 4slag. :thumleft: :thumleft:
Ek stem nog n slag vir TF en een plus punt is dat die werkers nie sy kickstarter gaan afskop in die winter soos met die four strokes gebeur in koue wreld. Vriend van my het juis n nuwe TF by Hannes van Grabouw Suzuki gekoop jare terug vir gebruik naby Middelpos. Hy was nog nie een dag spyt. Lekker laag vir kort manne en hulle kan maar deur meganies onsimpatieke ore gery word niks sal pop want hulle kan rev.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: BuRP on March 20, 2020, 10:58:31 am
Sal vorentoe slegs TW 200 koop.

Pasop nou, Dan gaan kom draai by jou en jou dan sommer innig soen!  :P
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Pullaway on March 20, 2020, 11:37:31 am
I don't think a TW is very comfortable in ruts and sand. How available are those chubby tyres? You probably have a bigger chance of a puncture with a fat tyre.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2020, 11:37:59 am
Sal vorentoe slegs TW 200 koop.

Pasop nou, Dan gaan kom draai by jou en jou dan sommer innig soen!  :P

Nee, ek soen nie tans nie, daars n virus in die omte. :ricky:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2020, 11:40:07 am
I don't think a TW is very comfortable in ruts and sand. How available are those chubby tyres? You probably have a bigger chance of a puncture with a fat tyre.

Those fat wheels are a bad idea for sand, they follow every line and contour, and because they do not penetrate, they do not steer.

Jy ry ook moeilik n doring of spyker mis met hulle.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on March 20, 2020, 11:43:16 am
Vriend van my het vir lank plaas bikes reggemaak vir n ekstra inkomste. Hy s die TW 200's wat by hom beland het het nie ho kilos gedoen voor hulle ringe gekort het.
Gemiddelde klink na so 15 000 kms.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: BuRP on March 20, 2020, 12:06:32 pm
Sal vorentoe slegs TW 200 koop.

Pasop nou, Dan gaan kom draai by jou en jou dan sommer innig soen!  :P

Nee, ek soen nie tans nie, daars n virus in die omte. :ricky:

Foggit @B.V. , hiri Beervirus red you: hy is lus ma hy wil nie nou nie!
Sluit jou plaashek maar in elk geval inni toekoms, dit sal soenende ouens in blou regalia uithou!  :lol8: :lol8:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: B.V. on March 20, 2020, 12:18:05 pm

I bought a Suzuki Van Van 125 a while ago as the yamahas were crazy expensive and we needed a bike for a area which is all sand. This one is unbeleivable, has over 50 000km and all that has been replaced is the injector. The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!) so it has become a push start model for now.



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Midas in Grabouw verkoop  die starters vir R2500 nat nuut.  Vra vir Henry.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2020, 01:59:12 pm
Sal vorentoe slegs TW 200 koop.

Pasop nou, Dan gaan kom draai by jou en jou dan sommer innig soen!  :P

Nee, ek soen nie tans nie, daars n virus in die omte. :ricky:

Foggit @B.V. , hiri Beervirus red you: hy is lus ma hy wil nie nou nie!
Sluit jou plaashek maar in elk geval inni toekoms, dit sal soenende ouens in blou regalia uithou!  :lol8: :lol8:

Ek sit my noodlig ook aan; Blou...blou...blou........ :pot:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Fudge on March 20, 2020, 02:17:17 pm
My biggest issue with the TW200 here at the coast was frame rust. I don't know why they even bothered with that thin layer of paint, could just as well have used lipstick. Other than that, the leaking base gasket is a well-known issue with certain year models, mine had to be done 4 times.

Solid all-rounder otherwise.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Rossdog on March 21, 2020, 02:12:56 pm
I've had and used them all over the years. The best farm bike I ever had was a YZ 250 with am 18 inch rear wheel conversion. Cheap to buy, endless supply of free second hand tyres off my endure bike (and from friends), lots of fun, not boring, easy and cheap to maintain, goes faster than a lion can run (it's happened to me twice  :biggrin:) and it will help improve your riding skills.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on March 21, 2020, 02:17:21 pm
I've had and used them all over the years. The best farm bike I ever had was a YZ 250 with am 18 inch rear wheel conversion. Cheap to buy, endless supply of free second hand tyres off my endure bike (and from friends), lots of fun, not boring, easy and cheap to maintain, goes faster than a lion can run (it's happened to me twice  :biggrin:) and it will help improve your riding skills.
That would get most farm workers in hospital pronto!! :deal: :o
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on March 22, 2020, 09:26:38 am
Fok di motorfietse en kry vir hulle perde!! Oh ja, perde is deesdae duurder as motorfietse....

4slag werk beter as 2slag, want hy kan so poer poer aanvoeter waar di 2slag poeier soek, anders carbon hulle op soos genoem is.

Die AG se ratte is lekker kort, 1-4 is soos n bakkie in lowrange, sterk.

Kyk na bigboy se XTG125/200, copy van Yamaha se XTZ125, Enjin is n Honda copy van di indestructable CGL125. Of self die Puzey STR200. Cheap, alles ander hou op werk maar die enjin bly loop.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 22, 2020, 12:40:27 pm
Fok di motorfietse en kry vir hulle perde!! Oh ja, perde is deesdae duurder as motorfietse....

4slag werk beter as 2slag, want hy kan so poer poer aanvoeter waar di 2slag poeier soek, anders carbon hulle op soos genoem is.

Die AG se ratte is lekker kort, 1-4 is soos n bakkie in lowrange, sterk.

Kyk na bigboy se XTG125/200, copy van Yamaha se XTZ125, Enjin is n Honda copy van di indestructable CGL125. Of self die Puzey STR200. Cheap, alles ander hou op werk maar die enjin bly loop.

Die 2slag wat op-carbon is n storie wat nog uit die BSA Bantam dae kom. Die Japanese met hul akkurate oliemeet stelsels het nie daai probleem nie.

Baie van die werk op n plaas veroorsaak dat n 4slag te warm loop, stadige ry, lank luier, ens, en 2slag masjiene loop bai koeler as 4slag goed.

Soveel so dat n 4slag uitlaatpyp baie maklik jou droe koring aan die brand steek, wat jy NOOIT sal regkry met n 2slag pyp nie.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on March 22, 2020, 02:48:15 pm
Nou ja, daashy, 2slag vir julle.

Ons buurman wat ons plaasie huur verkies nou weer di 4slag, want hy kan op di lande aanfoeter, agter di vee aanpoer, en bietjie vinniger ry ook.

Hy wil niks weet v n 2slag nie, want di ding vrek op stadige spoed, alhoewel hy n 2slag verkies vd spoed en illusie van krag.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 22, 2020, 03:37:29 pm
Ek het al baie mense teegekom wat uiters teen n 2slag fiets is, tot hulle een ry, en besit.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on March 22, 2020, 03:44:14 pm
Die een is anders. Hy verkies d 2slag, maar di 4slag is meer gepas vd doel, so hy gebruik 4slag
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Welsh on March 22, 2020, 07:08:41 pm

I bought a Suzuki Van Van 125 a while ago as the yamahas were crazy expensive and we needed a bike for a area which is all sand. This one is unbeleivable, has over 50 000km and all that has been replaced is the injector. The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!) so it has become a push start model for now.




Midas in Grabouw verkoop  die starters vir R2500 nat nuut.  Vra vir Henry.
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The UK riders all used to park up there 1150's in winter and commute on a Van Van.  :sip:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: hugh101 on March 23, 2020, 06:46:45 am
I have bushlander which will be in the market soon.
My girlfriend rides it everyday between Somerset West and Stellenbosch

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Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Mapog on April 21, 2020, 07:34:08 am
Getting back to this topic.
Would the TF not be much heavier on fuel than the 4 strokes for slow farm use?
Regarding the mixing: does it mix itself or do you need to do it?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Kobus Myburgh on April 21, 2020, 07:53:52 am
Sal n CRF250L nie n lekker plaas fiets maak nie?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Appel on April 21, 2020, 08:07:33 am
Getting back to this topic.
Would the TF not be much heavier on fuel than the 4 strokes for slow farm use?
Regarding the mixing: does it mix itself or do you need to do it?

Not much difference in consumption, remember these bikes putter around all day (irrigation) and yes they have autolube systems.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 21, 2020, 08:19:20 am
Getting back to this topic.
Would the TF not be much heavier on fuel than the 4 strokes for slow farm use?
Regarding the mixing: does it mix itself or do you need to do it?

Like Appel pointed out, not that much difference in consumption, and the TF has separate oil tanks, with a pump to meter oil to the engine. Been like this since 1969.

Only possible problem is letting this tank run dry, forgetting to fill up with oil. Not sure about the TF, but the Yamaha 2strokes have a warning light for when oil needs topping up.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: GeenSand on April 21, 2020, 08:21:51 am
Hi Mapog.
As far as i can see the tf is based on the ts engine that had a pump for mixing itself. Had one a few years back. Worked a like a charm in the veld. We just fitted a bigger sprocket at the back and it did well at low speeds.

Hi Kobus.
The honda mostlikly will not be a bad veldbike. But the people riding it is about half the lenght of us normal folk so it might be a bit high. On the old xl185 (s) we had to drop the front shocks on the tripple clamps and set the rear preload at its lowest for them to properly sure foot the bikes.
It is mainly used in the veld - no tarroad use at all. So it doesnt need registration docs and or lights ect. We normaly strip most of the electrics off lights+switches ect as they are dropped often in the veld due to aardvarkholes and then it breaks off eitherway.

We now waiting for lockdown to end so that we can get to the shops to compare price and lifespan ans sevice costs ect. So far the tf is the cheapest new best option. It is quite low seat hight and then its a 2stroke. Little that can go wrong imho. The older hondas (xl series) had head seize and cam chain failure due to overheating at slow speeds. The agricultural aircooled bikes have bigger cooling fins for better cooling.




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Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: onderbroek on April 21, 2020, 08:33:01 am
The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!)


Lees ek reg hier? R18 000 vir n starter?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 21, 2020, 08:36:04 am
The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!)


Lees ek reg hier? R18 000 vir n starter?

Iemand maak n groot fout hier.

Dit is nog n groot voordeel van die 2slag TF, net skop aansit, en hy vat altyd eerste skop. Geen battery strond nie.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Kobus Myburgh on April 21, 2020, 08:46:54 am
Hi Mapog.
As far as i can see the tf is based on the ts engine that had a pump for mixing itself. Had one a few years back. Worked a like a charm in the veld. We just fitted a bigger sprocket at the back and it did well at low speeds.

Hi Kobus.
The honda mostlikly will not be a bad veldbike. But the people riding it is about half the lenght of us normal folk so it might be a bit high. On the old xl185 (s) we had to drop the front shocks on the tripple clamps and set the rear preload at its lowest for them to properly sure foot the bikes.
It is mainly used in the veld - no tarroad use at all. So it doesnt need registration docs and or lights ect. We normaly strip most of the electrics off lights+switches ect as they are dropped often in the veld due to aardvarkholes and then it breaks off eitherway.

We now waiting for lockdown to end so that we can get to the shops to compare price and lifespan ans sevice costs ect. So far the tf is the cheapest new best option. It is quite low seat hight and then its a 2stroke. Little that can go wrong imho. The older hondas (xl series) had head seize and cam chain failure due to overheating at slow speeds. The agricultural aircooled bikes have bigger cooling fins for better cooling.




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Het hom so, dankie GeenSand.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 21, 2020, 10:06:13 am
My vriend in die Roggeveld berge waar dit vrek koud word het n XL185 gehad waarvan die werkers die kickstarter drie keer afgeskop het oor onwillig om te start in die winter.
Ek beveel aan hy koop n TF125, nogal by Grabouw Suzuki wat gewoonlik altyd een op die vloer het.
Hy was nog nie een dag spyt nie. Lekker groter carrier agter gemaak sodat skaaphond se kind ook spasie het.
Dis al seker agt jaar gelede wat hy hom gekoop het en tot sover absoluut geen probleme en daai fiets loop amper sewe dae van die week.

Nuwe opsie deesdae is om n ou scrambler te vat en na Jaco Pieters in Worcester te stuur en hy sit n elektriese motor met battery in. Lui hom self om al die specs te kry 082 335 3970.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 21, 2020, 10:18:15 am
AG200 se box is so kort, al vier di ratte, hy gaan nooit overheat teen 20km/h nie
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Bill the Bong on April 21, 2020, 10:29:42 am
Al daai jare terug toe ons nog Amageza gery het, wou ek op n stadium @LoopSoosStroop se rekort vir die kleinste fiets wat klaarmaak, breek.  Ek het toe al n paar klaargemaak op n 690, so ek was reg vir iets anders.  Die plan was n TF125.  Ek het een gesponsor gekry in Upington.  Ek vat die dingetjie toe vir n toetsrit.  Ek kon nie eers so plat duintjie in standaard spec opkom nie.  Om nog petrol vir 275km + 1 botteltjie 2T olie, 2 liter koffie en 1 liter water, 1 kg droewors + navigasie goeters te dra sou glad nie deug nie.  Hoe is hierdie relevant?  Wel, dis meer relevant as n leeu wat n YZ250 jaag...
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Mapog on April 21, 2020, 11:53:45 am
Daar is leeuboere...

Moet darem byse, jy wou darem koffie en droewors saamry, dalk tel dit darem effens vir die plaaslewe?😉
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: gser on April 23, 2020, 08:37:48 am
 Bottom line ....
Jy wil n werkperd en nie n speelperd oppie plaas he nie ....
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on April 23, 2020, 08:51:36 am
Wat van die DR200 van Suzuki?  Destyds voor ek my Bushlander gekoop het was dit tussen di 2 fietse gewees.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 23, 2020, 08:57:08 am
Net so goeie fiets, maar buurman op di plaas het problems met syne opgetel hier by 6000km.

Daai AG200 v Yamaha se ratte is so kort met n tikkir langer 4de, en n amper trekker seat, ideaal v plaas omstandighede.

Loop ry hom eers, sal ni spyt wees nie
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on April 23, 2020, 09:03:55 am
Wat my met die Yamaha bendruk het was daai ketting wat heel toe is.  Dis 'n baie goeie idee.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 23, 2020, 09:04:44 am
Ek't al vergeet van dit, soos di ou delivery bikes, onthou jy

En naturrlik sy brandstof verbruik, omrede hy so laag rev gebruik hy omtrent niks petrol ni.

Hy het ook sidestands aan beide kante vd fiets, so jy kan enige helling parkeer
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Boersoeknbike on April 23, 2020, 09:11:10 am
AG 200 .. a true workhorse ...
Side stands both sides., enclosed finale chain drive, neutral at bottom of selector - no false neutrals . clutch lever has a quick sub lever to engage the clutch while in gear for say stop to open a gate, etc. , huge strong loading rack at rear end one small one in front of the handlebar, handlebar lever protectors in place , rim locks front and rear are standard ( mine was) , and more. . . . a true workhorse
I changed the final gearing to cruse at about 100 km/h on dirt highway plus to do some gnarly single tracks with a load ....
together with reliability and low cost of ownership  .... to me a clear winner !
I also had a Suzuki DF 200 , also an AG bike. It was not as tough as the AG 200 , by a mile.
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Wil inval hier. Koop Yamaha AG200. Ons het almal probeer behalwe suzuki, het steeds CTX200's indiens, en AG200's. AG200 byverre die beste itv onderhoud en betroubaarheid. Kyk gerus na nuwe kleiner AG ook, selfde beginsel, ketting/sprockets is toe en goedkoper. En vergasser is bargain! Ons ry tans nuwe XT250 en CRF250 en sukkel oneindig met injectors onder plaas toestande! Hulle ry aansienlik lekkerder en vinniger maar ons ry 'n motorfiets op in 30'000km. Dis 'n te duur oefening vir werknemers! (baas kan maar lekker ry!)
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Mapog on April 23, 2020, 09:25:04 am
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 23, 2020, 09:27:46 am
Dis soos n laaitie wat n 2de handse BMW kan bekostig, ma ni sy services ni,
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 23, 2020, 09:29:09 am
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?
Mapog, koop dan eerder 2 Puzeys of Bigboys, gaan nog goedkoper uitwerk en dieselfde tyd hou?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2020, 09:29:57 am
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?

Presies.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2020, 09:33:24 am
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?
Mapog, koop dan eerder 2 Puzeys of Bigboys, gaan nog goedkoper uitwerk en dieselfde tyd hou?

 :xxbah: Elke thread het sy nar. :pot:

Ek het n ruk terug n 1979 TS185 by Michiel gekry, wat van nuuts af hul plaasfiets was, sy vergasser skoongemaak en hy loop soos stroop, met alle elektriese toebehore wat werk.

n BigBoy of Puzey sal sukkel om probleemvry te loop vir 2 jaar, laat staan nog langer as 30 jaar.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Swanniebraai on April 23, 2020, 02:30:23 pm
What and where would be best to buy.
Honda CTX
Suzuki TF
Yamaha AG
Honda ctx not forsale as new anymore only xr125.
I just saw that the suzuki TF is still sold in SA dont know about licensed but its a 2 smoker..
Yamaha lists the AG (offroad use only) and DT (P O A) suppose not sold anymore.

Edit: Does not need to be registered, if it has paperwork it would be scrapped. For farm use only.


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GeenSand, ek het n AG200 vir jou, WA my by 0835057200  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on April 23, 2020, 03:00:05 pm
As ek my nie misgis nie, of ek doen dalk, het die TF ook sy-standers op albei kante?

NS: Het nou bevestig die TF het ook twee.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Jacobsroodt on April 23, 2020, 03:04:14 pm
'n Nuwe TF125.
https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-motorcycles-scooters/randburg/suzuki-tf125-farm-bike-for-sale/1002964240190911447940109
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Jacobsroodt on April 23, 2020, 03:09:06 pm
New TF125
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2020, 04:51:24 pm
Nothing comes close to the TF125 for farm work, and it is people's biases against 2strokes that prevent them from profiting from ownership.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on April 23, 2020, 05:10:36 pm
Hoekom s jy so oor die 2T Dan?  Voordele en nadele in vergeleke met die 4T?
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 23, 2020, 05:17:03 pm
Hoekom s jy so oor die 2T Dan?  Voordele en nadele in vergeleke met die 4T?
Indien die enjin eendag oorgedoen moet word is n 2T se koste peanuts ivg met n 4T. Dis maar net een voordeel.

My vriend in die Hantam s syne wat hy nuut gekoop het lyk al soos die nuwe shape TF soos die manne al met hom geval het, maar hy loop nog elke dag. Af en toe is daar n pypie wat petrol lek en die vat net n tang en draad en daar gaan hy weer.

R33 550 btw in vir n plaasbike is n blerrie goeie koop. Koop nou twee en hang een in die solder op totdat jy hom nodig het. :deal: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Mapog on April 23, 2020, 07:36:12 pm
Nou praat ek vandag met n ou wat betrokke is by die verkoop van Suzukis.
Ek: Verkoop julle baie TFs?
Die ou: Nee,lank terug.
Ek: Hoekom?
Die ou: Hulle wil nie stadig ry nie.  Hulle heatsize.....

Nou as die verkoopsman so praat, dan gaan mense eerder die DR200 koop.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2020, 07:48:24 pm
Hoekom s jy so oor die 2T Dan?  Voordele en nadele in vergeleke met die 4T?

Die 2slag, ten spyte van wat baie mense glo, loop heelwat koeler as die 4slag. Jou 2slag se uitlaat KAN nie jou veld brandsteek nie.

Die ryer kan nie n 2slag enjin "over-rev" nie, sy silinderpoorte "govern" sy revs.

Soos Chris se, baie goedkoper om oor te doen, as dit daarop aankom.

Geen kleppe nagaan/verstel nie, en geen olie ruilery nie. Mense huil oor die 2slag rook wat in die lug ingaan, maar hulle weet nie van die 4stroke enjin olie wat landswyd in dreine afgegooi word nie. :eek7:

Skop aansitter maw. geen battery nonsens op koue oggende nie.

2slag soos die TF kan heeldag teen net bokant idle loop, 4stroke hou nie daarvan nie omrede die enjin dan wring op n tyd wat die oliepomp op sy swakste pomp.

Dis werklik n "stop-en-laat-staan" vourtuig, hierdie 2slag fietse.

Lugsuiweraar skoonhou, nou en dan n nuwe vonkprop, en so elke vyf jaar 800cc nuwe ratkasolie.  Ketting hou letterlik vir altyd met nou en dan se smering, omrede die vol ketting omhulsel.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2020, 07:49:38 pm
Nou praat ek vandag met n ou wat betrokke is by die verkoop van Suzukis.
Ek: Verkoop julle baie TFs?
Die ou: Nee,lank terug.
Ek: Hoekom?
Die ou: Hulle wil nie stadig ry nie.  Hulle heatsize.....

Nou as die verkoopsman so praat, dan gaan mense eerder die DR200 koop.

Dis hierdie tipe kak wat mense om die bos lei.

Laat die donner gaan BMW's verkoop, met sy heatseize stories.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Mapog on April 23, 2020, 08:39:10 pm
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2020, 09:16:58 pm
🤣🤣🤣🤣

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 23, 2020, 11:44:45 pm
Nou praat ek vandag met n ou wat betrokke is by die verkoop van Suzukis.
Ek: Verkoop julle baie TFs?
Die ou: Nee,lank terug.
Ek: Hoekom?
Die ou: Hulle wil nie stadig ry nie.  Hulle heatsize.....

Nou as die verkoopsman so praat, dan gaan mense eerder die DR200 koop.
Mapog as jy na die head van die twee enjins kyk is dit tog duidelik die 2T gooi sy hitte makliker weg met die vreeslike vinne wat dit het teenoor die 4T. Die 4T wil lugvloei verby die head h op spoed om goed te verkoel. As jy loopspoed skaap aanjaag het jy nie daai lugvloei vir die 4T.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Tyre kicker on April 24, 2020, 09:13:24 am
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?
Mapog, koop dan eerder 2 Puzeys of Bigboys, gaan nog goedkoper uitwerk en dieselfde tyd hou?

 :laughing4: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: B.V. on April 24, 2020, 09:16:41 am
Hier in Vyeboom is baie min TF,s oor. Vroer jaare hordes. Caledon area het nog baie.Onds ry kort afstande stadig. TF loop te veel koud. plugs word dood gegooi en uitlaat pype clog op.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 24, 2020, 09:19:50 am
Nee o donner, nou moet julle besluit, loop die goed te warm of loop hulle te koud?? :thumleft:

As jy n 2slag gaan baie lank stadig ry, en dis n plaasfiets, dan vervang jy sy vonkprop met een, of selfs twee, grade warmer prop.

Haal daai B8ES uit en pas n B7 of n B6.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 24, 2020, 09:37:34 am
Jy sien Uncle Dan, jyt vergeet dat n 2stroke moet loop om di kark te verbrand!!!

Koop n AG. Kry kla. My neef s'n loop nou al 15jaar sonder moeilikheid, sy seun ry hom ook nou, 15jr oud so hybword bietjie gelooi, maar dan moet ek ook se net die baas en sy familie ry hom, die volk werk met perde
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on April 24, 2020, 09:59:22 am
Al wat ek kan s is dis jammer Honda verkoop nie meer die Bushlander nie.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on April 24, 2020, 10:00:28 am

Dis hierdie tipe kak wat mense om die bos lei.

Laat die donner gaan BMW's verkoop, met sy heatseize stories.

Jyself gaan nog 'n heatseize kry oor BMW.  Raak rustig Danie. Daar is groter windmeulens om in die lewe te bestorm.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 24, 2020, 10:03:48 am
Dorsie, wa gaan hy n perd kry? En hy ga norrafok Spanje toe foeter v n windmeul nie, netnou jackpot hy vd coronavirus.....

En mag hy nooit n "Sir" word nie, dan moet hy BMW ry!!! :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Dorsland on April 24, 2020, 10:06:14 am
Dorsie, wa gaan hy n perd kry? En hy ga norrafok Spanje toe foeter v n windmeul nie, netnou jackpot hy vd coronavirus.....

En mag hy nooit n "Sir" word nie, dan moet hy BMW ry!!! :imaposer:

Was dit nie 'n donkie nie?  Dan het hy mos reeds sy XT600. :peepwall: :lol8:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 24, 2020, 10:07:05 am
 die volk werk met perde

Gee daai bike vir die manne op die perde en report terug aan ons oor ses maande seblief :deal: ;)
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 24, 2020, 10:14:56 am
Chris, kannie, hys heilig oor sy goete.....


Ja, is waar, sit ek nou weer uncle dan op n perdestal, ag sorry, n pedestal.....
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 24, 2020, 10:19:01 am
Ek dink meeste indien nie al die 4T bikes deesdae het elektric start, maar indien hulle nog almal kick was sou ek nog steeds die 2T gekies het. Ek het gesien hoeveel keer moes my maat sy XL185S se kick starter vas sweis want die manne skop hom af wintertyd.Die splines is lankal gestrip op daai shaft so al wat help is sweis.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 24, 2020, 10:34:08 am
Daai XL185's was van di duiwel!!!!!
My Oom het altyd so een Desembers plaas toe gevat, en synde my scooter n CB100 was, het ek altyd daai 185 gesik om mee te ry. Hy was vd duiwel!!!

Dink ni sy valves was ooit gedoen nie...

Daai CB het nooit ingegee nie, die underslung zorst het so paar keer gekark, ma dit was al(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/c16b488bd327f29f23b65b2d05fbd876.jpg)
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 24, 2020, 10:48:12 am

Dis hierdie tipe kak wat mense om die bos lei.

Laat die donner gaan BMW's verkoop, met sy heatseize stories.

Jyself gaan nog 'n heatseize kry oor BMW.  Raak rustig Danie. Daar is groter windmeulens om in die lewe te bestorm.

Groter as n BMW se pods?? :eek7: :eek7:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 24, 2020, 10:50:59 am
Daai XL185's was van di duiwel!!!!!
My Oom het altyd so een Desembers plaas toe gevat, en synde my scooter n CB100 was, het ek altyd daai 185 gesik om mee te ry. Hy was vd duiwel!!!

Dink ni sy valves was ooit gedoen nie...

Daai CB het nooit ingegee nie, die underslung zorst het so paar keer gekark, ma dit was al(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/c16b488bd327f29f23b65b2d05fbd876.jpg)

Groot rede waarom daai Honda's so gesukkel het met start, hulle valves was nooit gedoen nie.

2strokes het nie poppet valves nie. :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Jacobsroodt on April 24, 2020, 11:59:26 am
die volk werk met perde

Gee daai bike vir die manne op die perde en report terug aan ons oor ses maande seblief :deal: ;)
By ons op die plaas is die manne te lui om die perde op te saal. Te veel werk, dan loop hulle maar.
Natuurlik soek hulle almal bikes! Dit gaan nie gebeur nie.
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: LouisXander on April 24, 2020, 12:01:50 pm
Daai volk ry bloots, ons ook as ons daar is
Title: Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
Post by: Roxtar on April 24, 2020, 12:13:18 pm
A bit off topic, but the term "agricultural" came to mind when I rode the LC and AC 1200 BMW back to back just when the LC was released at the time... I remember vividly thinking to myself how agricultural the old Boxer felt in most respects in comparison to the LC.... :o I was not expecting the LC to feel as good as it did, but maybe the previous model just made it easy for the LC... :lol8:

OK back to topic... ;)