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Title: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:25:44 am
I am scratching around in my photos today, taking a trip down memory lane.  I loaded an app onto my phone that scans pix really well,  I want to preserve them digitally as soon many of them will be so faded they won't be viewable anymore.

I came across this newspaper clipping out of the Citizen newspaper that I kept, must be around 1979 or '80, maybe '81.  Unfortunately I never wrote the date on the clipping.  Back then, while I was in the army, I saved almost all my money and had a dream to buy an XT500 and do the reverse trip of that that these Hollanders did.  Well life, studying, job, girlfriends and so on happened.  The world was big back then, too many things claimed my attention.  I couldn't give 100% attention to all of them and sadly, this dream fell by the wayside.  Nowadays, the world is too small to hold me.  My jeukvoete raak nie meer gekrap nie.

Later in life, still riding bikes but mostly street bikes, I could live out a smaller version of my dream by traveling a lot of places. Then along came "dual sport" or "adventure biking", Adventure Rider forum, Wilddog forum. My leisure activity now had a name.  :biggrin:

And here we are today (yes I know: never start a sentence with "and"  ;D), overlanding, adventure biking, women living on the motorbike trails of the world, entire industries built on a lifestyle that had humble beginnings many moons ago.

Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:27:49 am
My little KE100 that started me off, 1977 I think.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:28:53 am
Used (and abused by previous owner) Honda 250 Elsinore
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:30:45 am
What happened to these companies:


There must be many more, faded into the mists of time
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:33:19 am
This little tent saw many many places around the country.  No sleeping pad, gas stove, flysheet, groundsheet, panniers, GPS, ABS, ESC, TC, cellphones, ANC, VAT, internet and other crap.

First pic near White River

Second pic at a caravan park near Summerstrand beach, a little kloof somewhere there.  Either it doesn't exist any longer or I'll never find it again.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: skydiver on April 25, 2020, 11:34:19 am
I always wanted an XT500 or XT250 when I was in high school
Friend of mine had a maroon coloured XT250
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:37:24 am
My friend Jack Fitzpatrick and I en route to Keurbooms River caravan Park at Plet for Christmas camping.  This is the bridge over the (River Kwai) Orange River on the N1.  He had unzipped his jacket as it was damn hot and a bee flew in and stung him.  He was not a happy chappie on this pic.  :biggrin:

My luggage was a bag from Pep Stores, normal bungee cords, my army slaapsak.  How did we manage before Kriega, Wolfman, Enduristan, Rok straps, First Ascent and so on?  :lol8:

On the bank behind Jack is where River Destiny Lodge stands today. (edit: this pic is taken looking downstream, River Destiny would be behind me taking the pic)
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Lem on April 25, 2020, 11:37:26 am
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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:41:54 am
So @Operator sends me a Whatsapp now. Apparently the guy 2nd from left in that newspaper clipping, Jan-Lucas de Vos is @Amsterdam on this forum! Living in Houtbay. Blerrie small world hey.

Dankie Oppie  :thumleft:

Come fill in the blanks for us @Amsterdam 
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Operator on April 25, 2020, 11:42:51 am
So @Operator sends me a Whatsapp now. Apparently the guy 2nd from left in that newspaper clipping, Jan-Lucas de Vos is @Amsterdam on this forum! Living in Houtbay. Blerrie small world hey.

Dankie Oppie  :thumleft:

Come fill in the blanks for us @Amsterdam

Think Jan-Lucas will be able to tell a "lekker storie" about this
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: katana on April 25, 2020, 11:46:31 am
 :ricky:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on April 25, 2020, 11:50:53 am
@Amsterdam


Jan -Lucas then REPEATED the trip similar 30-odd years later, within last 5 years, with his Son, direction Europe, retracing his footsteps, I guess.


(He also holds some impressive Killarney lap times, too!)


Come in, Amsterdam...!
Chris
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 11:51:41 am
Looks like once a biker, always a biker  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 25, 2020, 11:58:45 am
Gooi nog Dorsland, nogal verbaas oor jou padbike ryery, het jy toe ook op rallies elke oggend geskeer? ;) :peepwall: :lol8:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Tony the Boney on April 25, 2020, 11:59:54 am
We all at some stage had a Nava, Lafe or a Bell helmet
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:00:44 pm
 
Gooi nog Dorsland, nogal verbaas oor jou padbike ryery, het jy toe ook op rallies elke oggend geskeer? ;) :peepwall: :lol8:


:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:  Ek was nog net eenkeer op 'n rally gewees.  Dink dit was die Rhino.  Kom ons sê maar my lewenskennis is, um, aansienlik verbreed daardie naweek.  O0 >:D
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 25, 2020, 12:02:56 pm
Gooi nog Dorsland, nogal verbaas oor jou padbike ryery, het jy toe ook op rallies elke oggend geskeer? ;) :peepwall: :lol8:


:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:  Ek was nog net eenkeer op 'n rally gewees.  Dink dit was die Rhino.  Kom ons sê maar my lewenskennis is, um, aansienlik verbreed daardie naweek.  O0 >:D
:laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :lol8:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 25, 2020, 12:03:22 pm
What happened to these companies:

  • Preston Petty
  • Sinisalo
  • Nava helmets
  • Kerker exhausts

There must be many more, faded into the mists of time

You can still buy Preston Petty products, made by Polisport in Portugal, Preston himself was still alive last I heard, lots of bad business deals, he was in ill health living in a camper somewhere outside L.A. they had a gofundme for him, suffering with heart disease   :sip:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:05:36 pm
I guess we all had (have) an unquenchable wanderlust in us.  I travelled many places back then.  I am always pleasantly surprised at how light one can travel.  Marketing and advertising has led us seriously astray.

First pic is my My Z1R Mk1 on Long Tom Pass at the top of Mount Anderson.  I later bought the larger Mk 2 fuel tank for it.  I think the original tank was about 13 liters or so.

Second pic my Eddie Lawson Replica (I always wanted the green one but by the time I could afford to buy one they were white only) near Bergville.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:07:13 pm
What happened to these companies:

  • Preston Petty
  • Sinisalo
  • Nava helmets
  • Kerker exhausts

There must be many more, faded into the mists of time

You can still buy Preston Petty products, made by Polisport in Portugal, Preston himself was still alive last I heard, lots of bad business deals, he was in ill health living in a camper somewhere outside L.A. they had a gofundme for him, suffering with heart disease   :sip:

That is sad to hear Welsh.  Back in my day his products were almost legend.  Obligatory farkle on most off-road bikes.  Or scramblers as we called them then.  :)
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 12:07:33 pm
My friend Jack Fitzpatrick and I en route to Keurbooms River caravan Park at Plet for Christmas camping.  This is the bridge over the (River Kwai) Orange River on the N1.  He had unzipped his jacket as it was dam hot and a bee flew in and stung him.  He was not a happy chappie on this pic.  :biggrin:

My luggage was a bag from Pep Stores, normal bungee cords, my army slaapsak.  How did we manage before Kriega, Wolfman, Enduristan, Rok straps, First Ascent and so on?  :lol8:

On the bank behind Jack is where River Destiny Lodge stands today.

Netso GPZ1100 gehad . Dieselfde kleure net Bassani 4 in to 1 opgehad. Hy is gesteel op 11000km.
Later weer een gehad met custom sprayjob, 1170 wiseco pistons,gasflowed head etc Van al my bikes was die era en bike my beste gewees.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:08:39 pm
My daring dabble with an Italian, Laverda RGS1000.  Most solid bike I have owned and an exhaust note like music.  Not loud, melodious. On my way across the Eastern Highveld near Standerton.  Hit a lightning and hailstorm from hell not long before that.  It was icy cold.  No heated grips, heated vests or other moffie stuff.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:10:17 pm
My friend Jack Fitzpatrick and I en route to Keurbooms River caravan Park at Plet for Christmas camping.  This is the bridge over the (River Kwai) Orange River on the N1.  He had unzipped his jacket as it was dam hot and a bee flew in and stung him.  He was not a happy chappie on this pic.  :biggrin:

My luggage was a bag from Pep Stores, normal bungee cords, my army slaapsak.  How did we manage before Kriega, Wolfman, Enduristan, Rok straps, First Ascent and so on?  :lol8:

On the bank behind Jack is where River Destiny Lodge stands today.


Netso GPZ1100 gehad . Dieselfde kleure net Bassani 4 in to 1 opgehad. Hy is gesteel op 11000km.
Later weer een gehad met custom sprayjob, 1170 wiseco pistons,gasflowed head etc Van al my bikes was die era en bike my beste gewees.

Ek was spuls vir so 'n GPZ @subie.  Maar kon nooit 'n nuwe een bekostig nie.  Eers later toe kon ek en ek koop toe daai Eddie Lawson Replica.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:12:40 pm
There is NOTHING as much fun as this NS400R Honda on the road between I think Shelly Beach and Richmond in Natal.  Bliksem!
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 25, 2020, 12:13:24 pm
Weird hoe baie van almal se startup kit was ou army kit. Balsak en bivvie is eintlik al wat mens nodig gehad het. Was dit die beste? Nee ma dit was verniet en ons het dit geken. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:16:44 pm
I must have had the most long-suffering girlfriend back then.  We did 2-up along the coast from PE to almost into the Transkei on my TT500. Lived rough and tumble for 10 days.  Camped with absolutely basic kit.  Hell, we were keen on each other back then.  The roads life takes with us hey....
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 12:19:34 pm
My friend Jack Fitzpatrick and I en route to Keurbooms River caravan Park at Plet for Christmas camping.  This is the bridge over the (River Kwai) Orange River on the N1.  He had unzipped his jacket as it was dam hot and a bee flew in and stung him.  He was not a happy chappie on this pic.  :biggrin:

My luggage was a bag from Pep Stores, normal bungee cords, my army slaapsak.  How did we manage before Kriega, Wolfman, Enduristan, Rok straps, First Ascent and so on?  :lol8:

On the bank behind Jack is where River Destiny Lodge stands today.


Netso GPZ1100 gehad . Dieselfde kleure net Bassani 4 in to 1 opgehad. Hy is gesteel op 11000km.
Later weer een gehad met custom sprayjob, 1170 wiseco pistons,gasflowed head etc Van al my bikes was die era en bike my beste gewees.

Ek was spuls vir so 'n GPZ @subie.  Maar kon nooit 'n nuwe een bekostig nie.  Eers later toe kon ek en ek koop toe daai Eddie Lawson Replica.

Daai tyd het suzuki die 33% promotion gehad wat beteken n nuwe Katana 1100 het so R4200 gekos.  As ek reg onthou was die
GPZ1100  so R5200 of daar rond.  My XJ750 yamaha was so R1900 gewees.
Eddie Lawson was n baie begeerlike bike gewees vir my.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 25, 2020, 12:24:24 pm
Many moons ago there was an article in the Bark SA about a Euro couple on two XT500's that toured South America.
On some big river they mounted the bikes on a barge and rigged a waterwheel to the back wheel of both bikes to power the barge. They even had a mistspray water system to cool the bikes down cause they worked at idle speed.
In Patagonia they rigged the two bikes together and put a sail between them and traveled like that because of the constant high winds in that country. Riding on one bike was just too dangerous because of the winds.

I have searched the internet but cannot find anything about the trip.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 12:30:46 pm
Weird hoe baie van almal se startup kit was ou army kit. Balsak en bivvie is eintlik al wat mens nodig gehad het. Was dit die beste? Nee ma dit was verniet en ons het dit geken. :thumleft:

Ja my paar goedjies is altyd in army grondseiltjie toegerol. Het nooit n tent besit nie eers baie later in my lewe.
Ek het n baie lekker leerbaadjie gehad. Kan glad nie onthou wat van hom geword het nie. Daai plat 750ml bottels
brandewyn of vodka kon heeltemal in sy binnesak inpas. Optoer  baie keer sommer op die teels geslaap in die mans toilette by petrol stasies ens afhangende hoe dronk ons was. Natuurlik was daar te alle tye n tweede helmet agterop  vasgemaak. Meisies was daar altyd wat wou saamry n bietjie .  :ricky:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:36:10 pm


Daai tyd het suzuki die 33% promotion gehad wat beteken n nuwe Katana 1100 het so R4200 gekos.  As ek reg onthou was die
GPZ1100  so R5200 of daar rond.  My XJ750 yamaha was so R1900 gewees.
Eddie Lawson was n baie begeerlike bike gewees vir my.

Ek het daai Eddie Lawson baie geniet. Snaakse ding oor daai GPZ1100.  Daai toebieboks instrumente van syne was vir my 'n groot aantrekkingskrag gewees.  Dis seker maar soos 'n TFT skerm van vandag  :lol8:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:37:59 pm
Weird hoe baie van almal se startup kit was ou army kit. Balsak en bivvie is eintlik al wat mens nodig gehad het. Was dit die beste? Nee ma dit was verniet en ons het dit geken. :thumleft:

Ja, waaragtig Chris.  Ek kyk nou net daai kiekie van my TT500.  Ek sien my meisie se slaapsak was sommer so in 'n Checkerssakkie ingeprop vir die reën.  :lol8:

Daai einste meisie is vandag 'n wêreldberoemde keramiekkunstenaar.  Haar goed word orals in gallerye in die wêreld uitgestal. Dalk kon ek vandag 'n "kept man" gewees het.  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 12:42:03 pm
I always wanted an XT500 or XT250 when I was in high school
Friend of mine had a maroon coloured XT250

'n XT500 is al waaroor ek in die weermag kon droom.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 25, 2020, 12:59:21 pm
Sjoe, dus darem lekker om die ou kiekies te kyk en stories te hoor.
N man vergeet nooit jou eerste bike nie, en ook nie jou eerste groot bike nie.
Dit was `n "vrye teuels deel"  van `n man se lewe, voor vrou en kinders, As daar spaar geldjie was, was dit gebruik vir petrol om erens te gaan gatskuur saam met jou pelle.
Was ook verseker `n tyd wat `n man relatief veilig was, kon sommer langs die pad le en slaap.
Die 80`s bikes is nogsteeds mooi vandag.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 01:05:44 pm
Awesome pics from a time in the past when life was carefree, simple and fun.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 01:07:03 pm
I always wanted an XT500 or XT250 when I was in high school
Friend of mine had a maroon coloured XT250
Hier is my maroon XT250 oppad George toe uit Kuilsrivier agter girls aan. My pel het sy broer se XT500 geleen. So lekker Supertrap opgehad...kon met die plaatjies speel. By Kromco het gedink die XT250 gaan dit nie maak nie maar het toe mooi geloop...dink het dalk valves gebuig op die trip. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/946a7350fe2cd701fd17a2e4463dbf3a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:08:04 pm
We all at some stage had a Nava, Lafe or a Bell helmet

"Lafe".  I'd forgotten about that helmet brand.

What about Supertrapp exhausts?  They still around?
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 01:08:41 pm


Daai tyd het suzuki die 33% promotion gehad wat beteken n nuwe Katana 1100 het so R4200 gekos.  As ek reg onthou was die
GPZ1100  so R5200 of daar rond.  My XJ750 yamaha was so R1900 gewees.
Eddie Lawson was n baie begeerlike bike gewees vir my.

Ek het daai Eddie Lawson baie geniet. Snaakse ding oor daai GPZ1100.  Daai toebieboks instrumente van syne was vir my 'n groot aantrekkingskrag gewees.  Dis seker maar soos 'n TFT skerm van vandag  :lol8:

Ek het self baie daarvan gehou. Van my pelle het my gespot oor die groot stuk tupperware bak en wat ek daarin sit. :ricky:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:12:10 pm

Hier is my maroon XT250 oppad George toe uit Kuilsrivier agter girls aan. My pel het sy broer se XT500 geleen. So lekker Supertrap opgehad...kon met die plaatjies speel. By Kromco het gedink die XT250 gaan dit nie maak nie maar het toe mooi geloop...dink het dalk valves gebuig op die trip. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/946a7350fe2cd701fd17a2e4463dbf3a.jpg)


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Ek dink op 'n tyd het seker elke jong lat 'n XT begeer.  As ek diep rondkrap hier in my kaste gaan ek 2 XT en TT brosjures en/of advertensies uitkrap.  Een onthou ek was die oranje en silwer TT op 'n koolmynhoop afgeneem.

Ek dink ek het sulke posters agter my slaapkamerdeur opgeplak eerder as Scope dollies.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 25, 2020, 01:12:21 pm
We all at some stage had a Nava, Lafe or a Bell helmet

"Lafe".  I'd forgotten about that helmet brand.

What bout Supertrapp exhausts?  They still around?

Supertrapp, yes definitely.  :biggrin:

I had a Nolan I think (something British), then a Bell, then an AGV open face, then a Premier with HUGE Metalflake. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:13:28 pm
Awesome pics from a time in the past when life was carefree, simple and fun.

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Is it because we've got older and jaded or because the world has changed Wayne?  Maybe a combination of both.  But I get the feeling youngsters of today certainly don't have the level of freedom we had back then.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:15:12 pm


Supertrapp, yes definitely.  :biggrin:

I had a Nolan I think (something British), then a Bell, then an AGV open face, then a Premier with HUGE Metalflake. :biggrin:

Can you believe I still have that Simpson and Bell Moto III in my cupboard today.  At one stage I wanted to toss them out but just couldn't bring myself to throw that history away.  Padding is of course all disintegrated to nothing.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 01:16:53 pm
I always wanted an XT500 or XT250 when I was in high school
Friend of mine had a maroon coloured XT250

'n XT500 is al waaroor ek in die weermag kon droom.

Ek was 3 weke 16 toe is ek army toe. My droom bike Was n klein Honda Benly. Dink dit was 150cc. Het ure met die brochures gele en droom oor die bike en die langpaaie wat ek sou ry met hom. Ver ver paaie :ricky:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 01:18:25 pm
Dink het begin met Lafe vir 50 en toe later opgradeer na die Bell Moto III - ook maroon. Watter kleur is joune?


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:20:02 pm
Ekself 17 toe ek weermag toe is.  Vandag kyk ek die jong latte van daai ouderdom en kan nie dink hulle sou dit maak nie.  Ek klink nou dalk soos 'n ou suurgat oom maar dis 'n feit.  Het al jong outjies op die plaas indiens gehad en hulle handtjies is gans en al te sag.  Koppe ook nie reg nie.  Mens hoop maar hulle word net later as ons ryp, want as dit ons voorland is, is dit nag.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 25, 2020, 01:20:12 pm
Awesome pics from a time in the past when life was carefree, simple and fun.

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Is it because we've got older and jaded or because the world has changed Wayne?  Maybe a combination of both.  But I get the feeling youngsters of today certainly don't have the level of freedom we had back then.

Certainly here they don't, but I think the world has changed, my kids and their friends are not like my generation. Also the UK, when I visit my generation and older are still nuts, the youngsters world is more sterile, more PC, less and less friendly to wild spirits.  :peepwall:   
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:20:50 pm
Dink het begin met Lafe vir 50 en toe later opgradeer na die Bell Moto III - ook maroon. Watter kleur is joune?


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Dis die einste geel een...
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 01:23:11 pm
Met daai mooi blink mesh in die intake?


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:23:27 pm


Certainly here they don't, but I think the world has changed, my kids and their friends are not like my generation. Also the UK, when I visit my generation and older are still nuts, the youngsters world is more sterile, more PC, less and less friendly to wild spirits. :peepwall:

This!  This is the saddest part of the world we live in today.  It is a scary place yet sanitised.  A contradiction in terms yes but you have nailed it in that last phrase Welsh.  Wild spirits have been hobbled and buried. Very sad. :-\
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:23:51 pm
Met daai mooi blink mesh in die intake?


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hahahahahaha, Ja! die einste. 
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:24:30 pm
Ek dink ek gaan sommer myne gaan uitkrap en weer bietjie aantrek.  :lol8:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 01:28:07 pm
Tx vir die thread...bring baie herinnerings terug. Gepraat van brosjures...in 98 koop ek my eerste nuwe bike. ‘n XRV750 by Ruperts Bike Inn... of so iets. Moes 6 maande wag vir hom. Het elke aan in bed gelê en na brosjure gekyk. Dan vra my vrou nou wat is nou regtig so mooi aan dit... hulle sal seker nie verstaan nie.


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:29:21 pm
 :lol8:  Kêrels nou gaan ons VÊR terug. 38 jaar terug!  Ek sien my blink mesh is weg.  En nou is my hare (dit wat oorbly) vol sulke spons krummels van daai arme ou Bell Moto III  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:30:27 pm
Tx vir die thread...bring baie herinnerings terug. Gepraat van brosjures...in 98 koop ek my eerste nuwe bike. ‘n XRV750 by Ruperts Bike Inn... of so iets. Moes 6 maande wag vir hom. Het elke aan in bed gelê en na brosjure gekyk. Dan vra my vrou nou wat is nou regtig so mooi aan dit... hulle sal seker nie verstaan nie.


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Janee, óf jy verstaan dit, óf jy verstaan dit nie.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 01:32:12 pm
:lol8:  Kêrels nou gaan ons VÊR terug. 36 jaar terug!

Lyk mean. Soos n gunfighter se oe  :thumleft: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:33:33 pm
:lol8:  Kêrels nou gaan ons VÊR terug. 36 jaar terug!

Lyk mean. Soos n gunfighter se oe  :thumleft: :imaposer:

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:  Ons dink ons is nog jonk Subie maar die jare het ons al almal 'n hou of twee gegee.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 01:37:20 pm
Nou amper om staaldak te dra sonder doibie (nou weet ek nie eers hoe om dit te spel nie).


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Andre E on April 25, 2020, 01:41:52 pm
Ekself 17 toe ek weermag toe is.  Vandag kyk ek die jong latte van daai ouderdom en kan nie dink hulle sou dit maak nie.  Ek klink nou dalk soos 'n ou suurgat oom maar dis 'n feit.  Het al jong outjies op die plaas indiens gehad en hulle handtjies is gans en al te sag.  Koppe ook nie reg nie.  Mens hoop maar hulle word net later as ons ryp, want as dit ons voorland is, is dit nag.
My broer, nou 63, kla by my oor 18 jarige laaities wat hy indiens neem wat nie oor 'n gewone heining kan klim of teen die kloof kan uit nie. Sag en pateties geword.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 01:43:34 pm
Yip, hartseer maar waar.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 01:45:34 pm
Ja, hulle kan maar sê wat hulle wil. Ek was 2 jaar groep. Is deel van my lewe en nog nooit ‘n dag daaroor gekla nie (so bietjie gekla as korperaal jou optos).


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 01:46:16 pm
Awesome pics from a time in the past when life was carefree, simple and fun.

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Is it because we've got older and jaded or because the world has changed Wayne?  Maybe a combination of both.  But I get the feeling youngsters of today certainly don't have the level of freedom we had back then.
Combination of both. And yes, Welsh nailed it with his comment.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 01:52:43 pm
I was also 17 when I went to the army. Came from a pretty sheltered upbringing. Had to grow up fast and quickly.
Don't get me started on today's kids. They have no vasbyt and never will.
I do quite a bit of mountain biking and enter the odd events. Have a look when the going gets tough, the youngsters are the first to cave and start grumbling.

Maybe I am hardegat, but I for the life of me, simply refuse to give up when the going gets tough physically. That is also when you need to dig deep and mentally you need to be strong. Actually I find it a bit of a adrenaline rush when you mind throws that switch and says "right, shit got real and now you need to carry on".

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 02:00:09 pm
Agreed Wayne - I think it also prepared us for the working environment...did not question everything and when the going gets tough you put your head down and just work harder...I still use my JL corporal's saying when cycling...when you think you are dying - there is still 40% left.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 25, 2020, 02:09:55 pm
Agreed Wayne - I think it also prepared us for the working environment...did not question everything and when the going gets tough you put your head down and just work harder...I still use my JL corporal's saying when cycling...when you think you are dying - there is still 40% left.
Dan het ons PT instrukteur ve ons gelieg of sy wiskunde was akkies, sy verhouding was weer anders. 60% oor as jy voel jy wil dood!!! ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: GravelFox on April 25, 2020, 02:17:38 pm
Maar onthou die PTI het die license gehad om meer uit jou te haal.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 02:19:36 pm
Actually I think the American marines call it the 40% rule. When your mind says enough, your body is only 40% done.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 02:47:42 pm
These are not my pics. They from a friend on Facebook who did a trip down memory lane with pics.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 02:48:50 pm
Some more
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Rossdog on April 25, 2020, 03:39:41 pm
Wow Dorsland, what a great thread. Like most guys who've read this thread, the thing that stands out most is not so much the bikes, but rather how much the world has changed. I turned 51 a few days ago, and some lightie teased me about my age. My response was that I would happily go back in time, but I definitely would not want to be a 21 year old now, in 2020. 3 years ago I moved down to the coast, thinking I'd enjoy the peace and quiet, but after the exciting life I've had, I'm finding it difficult to adjust to this sterile, wet fart society in town. I miss excitement, freedom, the ability to dish out a PK if someone insults me, like wise the expectation of receiving one if the roles are reversed. Aaah @%&*, I'm getting all sentimental now.



 
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 25, 2020, 04:05:07 pm
Wow Dorsland, what a great thread. Like most guys who've read this thread, the thing that stands out most is not so much the bikes, but rather how much the world has changed. I turned 51 a few days ago, and some lightie teased me about my age. My response was that I would happily go back in time, but I definitely would not want to be a 21 year old now, in 2020. 3 years ago I moved down to the coast, thinking I'd enjoy the peace and quiet, but after the exciting life I've had, I'm finding it difficult to adjust to this sterile, wet fart society in town. I miss excitement, freedom, the ability to dish out a PK if someone insults me, like wise the expectation of receiving one if the roles are reversed. Aaah @%&*, I'm getting all sentimental now.

I walked off the Mossgas Construction Site (poached back by my old company), I spent the next couple of months in our Parktown offices, climbing down the throats of "sensitive people" who faffed around instead of getting it done! Eventually I got used to the office again, but construction was different, I spent 6 months eating dirt on a job in Ellisras, the Client chewed me daily, then one day a member of his staff overstepped the line, I went ballistic, over the top but it was satisfying. Yes I miss that "Ceasar" challenge of the large construction projects, where YOU make decisions, NOT a committee. But now I am not there and neither is the industry, the big men are just as hard, but with a velvet glove and ruled by HR and committee's not like my days.  :sip:   
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: subie on April 25, 2020, 04:16:20 pm
Het so n 1300 ook gehad. Myne was net standaard so groene .  Baie lekker bike gewees. Mal oor hom gewees. Het n 6 into one cowley pyp op hom gehad met die performance end piece waar n mens jou hand omtrent kon indruk. Hy het  omtrent gesels en was al pyp wat ek kon bekostig.
Die CBX 6 cyl ook gehad maar nie van hom gehou nie.  Hy het 6 into 1 kerker opgehad
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: katana on April 25, 2020, 04:34:21 pm
These are not my pics. They from a friend on Facebook who did a trip down memory lane with pics.
I miss my Katana
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 04:44:38 pm
Subie, daai ou op die 1300 Kawa is Clinton Sadler of Teach soos almal hom ken. Blykbaar iets oor die 30 van daai 1300's.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 04:46:02 pm
Those Katanas were revolutionary in terms of styling back then.  It seemed to me that manufacturers were more daring, more willing to try new stuff back then.  6 cylinder inline bikes, daring styling like the Katanas and CBR1100 Hondas (those first models), the RD350, Kawasaki triple 500 and 750s, Unishock, Monoshock, Prolink rear suspensions, turbos.  Legislation and bean counters have killed all that creativity these days.  Today it's all electronic gizmos but basically the same styling and nothing WOW! on the market.  I think the double front wheel Yamaha abomination is about the weirdest thing out there now.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 04:51:58 pm
Het so n 1300 ook gehad. Myne was net standaard so groene .  Baie lekker bike gewees. Mal oor hom gewees. Het n 6 into one cowley pyp op hom gehad met die performance end piece waar n mens jou hand omtrent kon indruk. Hy het  omtrent gesels en was al pyp wat ek kon bekostig.
Die CBX 6 cyl ook gehad maar nie van hom gehou nie.  Hy het 6 into 1 kerker opgehad

Op die eerste, enigste en laaste Rhino rally wat ek ooit op was, was daar 'n ou met so 'n 1300 Kawa.  Die hele fiets, van kop tot tone was gekroom, als.  Wat my vandag nog bybly oor daai rally, sy meisie, bitter mooi, lang blonde hare, meisie waarop 'n ma kan trots wees.  Poedelnakend!  Staan sy agter op daai 1300 terwyl hy haar so op en af in die pad paradeer. (dis seker nou nie die regte woord om te gebruik nie  :peepwall: :lol8:)

Kyk, vir 'n ou van hier vroeg in sy 20s, fiks, met 'n lewens- en avontuurlus wat skrik vir niks, sonder sy eie meisie daai tyd, was dit 'n uiterse uitdaging om my deklus in toom te hou.
Title: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 25, 2020, 04:54:53 pm
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Title: Many moons ago....
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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Gérrard on April 25, 2020, 04:58:26 pm
These are not my pics. They from a friend on Facebook who did a trip down memory lane with pics.

Toppie in the third pick on the red honda. Legend on the club and rally scene. We were together at Midnight club. Cant remember his name.

Wonder if he is still alive
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 05:04:31 pm
These are not my pics. They from a friend on Facebook who did a trip down memory lane with pics.

Toppie in the third pick on the red honda. Legend on the club and rally scene. We were together at Midnight club. Cant remember his name.

Wonder if he is still alive
His name is Jackie. I almost seem to think he has passed away.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Gérrard on April 25, 2020, 05:11:42 pm
These are not my pics. They from a friend on Facebook who did a trip down memory lane with pics.

Toppie in the third pick on the red honda. Legend on the club and rally scene. We were together at Midnight club. Cant remember his name.

Wonder if he is still alive
His name is Jackie. I almost seem to think he has passed away.

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👍 He was already old when I knew him in the eighties
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 05:38:26 pm
Gerrard, when you were at Midnight's, you remember a guy Paul Parez? He always joked that the Midnight Club had a lawyer to get them out of trouble

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 06:29:41 pm
These are not my pics. They from a friend on Facebook who did a trip down memory lane with pics.

Toppie in the third pick on the red honda. Legend on the club and rally scene. We were together at Midnight club. Cant remember his name.

Wonder if he is still alive
His name is Jackie. I almost seem to think he has passed away.

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He was already old when I knew him in the eighties
@G�rrard , Jackie is still alive. He must be like old as dust by now

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Amsterdam on April 25, 2020, 06:58:06 pm
Hi Dorsland, nice thread this.  And cool to hear that the newspaper article may have contributed in you getting an XT500, so Yamahas sponsorship (33% of the new price of the bikes and spares at importer's cost) paid dividends for them after all.  If ever there was a trip that changed my life, that was the one.  Twenty years old, get on your bike and disappear into Africa.  As you said, no GPS, cellphone or a bloody clue as to what was ahead of our lives at that stage.

I don't think I have that newspaper article anymore.  The photo was taken in the garden of a guy (Geoff Fry) that we met in Johannesburg.  We ended up staying with him and his family for a few days, September 1979.

I still look at old XT500s and think I need to get one more, just for sentimental reasons.  I had one of those yellow Bell Moto helmets (100% sponsored by Yamaha) as well but will pass on that.  I swear that bloody helmet gave me a headache from Amsterdam to Cape Town.

And Wayne, I thought I recognised Teacher with his Z1300 and the confederate flag on his jacket from a few Buffalo rallies.  Seem to remember him standing on the drag strip, waving his flag to let the drunk guys drag down some narrow strip.

Ah memories!  Maybe I should at some stage start a ride report of that trip.  It is somewhat overdue I suppose, although there was an article in BikeSA at the time and Rob wrote a series of articles for the Dutch motorcycle magazine.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: skydiver on April 25, 2020, 07:48:57 pm
Ek het ook nog so vintage helmet. Ek kan net nie die naam van die vervaardiger onthou nie.
Dit is tans by my vriend se huis so ek kannie kyk wat die naam daarop is nie.
Hierdie foto van my op my XR200R is in 1986 geneem
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Wayne on April 25, 2020, 09:52:06 pm
@Amsterdam please do that ride report.

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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Sabre on April 25, 2020, 10:18:26 pm
Ek dink ek het sulke posters agter my slaapkamerdeur opgeplak eerder as Scope dollies.

Ja Dorsland, ek het 2 groot plakkate teen my kamer muur gehad. Een was daai eerste Rooi/donker rooi Kawas 900, en die ander 'n Moto Guzzi Le Mans
Ek kon ure na hulle le en staar
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dorsland on April 26, 2020, 07:20:16 am
@Amsterdam, it truly is a small world. Great to get some background on that pic from the horses’ mouth. That is an RR that you have to write, when adventure riding truly was an adventure. It will surely take the record for the longest gap between a ride and the RR
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Dustbiter on April 26, 2020, 08:22:47 am
Dankie vir die deel, Dorsland. :thumright:

I always enjoy seeing older photos, and how we travelled in the late 1970s and early '80s.
Keep them coming!
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: jaybiker on April 26, 2020, 11:09:06 am
Really, I mustn't go boring everyone with a Monty Python type memoir, starting "You kids in the 80's didn't know you were born. Back in the 60's, we..... :3some: ::)

But the freedom we enjoyed then, looking back soberly was more like irresponsible licence. It was fun at the time but horrifying and even a bit shameful at times.

17 years old, and some weekends my parents had no idea where I was or what I was doing from Friday afternoon until Monday morning. If they asked I would just say I was 'out', and it was the same for whichever even younger chick had hopped on my pillion. Only years later did I consider what worries we must have put the old folks through.  :-\
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Fario on April 26, 2020, 01:10:46 pm
We all at some stage had a Nava, Lafe or a Bell helmet

"Lafe".  I'd forgotten about that helmet brand.

What about Supertrapp exhausts?  They still around?

I had a Supertrapp on my 950. Worked well
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: BuRP on April 26, 2020, 04:04:16 pm
Ah memories!  Maybe I should at some stage start a ride report of that trip.

Amsterdam, PLEASE do?
You yourself say so, others clearly want you to do this too, and if it helps.... I wanted to do same in '85 but could not, nul centen!  :-\
Indeed into the unknown, foggal clue as what will lie ahead but going anyways, what can go wrong eh?
Would have choosen the same bike, it was THE bike back then.
Met a guy later, '86 I think, who did same, indeed also on a Yammie - think his name is Hans, not sure.
He stayed here in Pta, was a colleague for a while (IT then), and moved to CT, married and got lost in the fray.
I seem to remember he did the sub-saharan part alone because his friend turned around there, could not cope with the problems or something like that.

So there you go: open a Word document and work on it when you have a chance or feel lus.
It'll grow with time and then you can post it here - rest assured I will devour it!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 26, 2020, 04:28:41 pm
Really, I mustn't go boring everyone with a Monty Python type memoir, starting "You kids in the 80's didn't know you were born. Back in the 60's, we..... :3some: ::)

But the freedom we enjoyed then, looking back soberly was more like irresponsible licence. It was fun at the time but horrifying and even a bit shameful at times.

17 years old, and some weekends my parents had no idea where I was or what I was doing from Friday afternoon until Monday morning. If they asked I would just say I was 'out', and it was the same for whichever even younger chick had hopped on my pillion. Only years later did I consider what worries we must have put the old folks through.  :-\

I jumped on a flight to here in 1981 at 22 years old, I didn't know a soul in JHB but I had a job offer.  :biggrin:

I phoned home some months later to say I was OK, in the interim my Mother when asked "have you heard from Ian" she would reply, no, no news means there is no bad news. Tough old duck that one. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 26, 2020, 04:37:12 pm
We all at some stage had a Nava, Lafe or a Bell helmet

"Lafe".  I'd forgotten about that helmet brand.

What about Supertrapp exhausts?  They still around?

I had a Supertrapp on my 950. Worked well

Supertrapp's were clever, like a Norton exhaust of that era, they used peripheral discharge and that is less energy, better flow etc etc therefore quieter than central discharge, BUT the big market advantage for Supertrapp was that the disc discharge system was FORESTRY Approved in the USA without a spark arrestor. A massive market advantage in the USA.  8)
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Gérrard on April 26, 2020, 04:51:10 pm
Really, I mustn't go boring everyone with a Monty Python type memoir, starting "You kids in the 80's didn't know you were born. Back in the 60's, we..... :3some: ::)

But the freedom we enjoyed then, looking back soberly was more like irresponsible licence. It was fun at the time but horrifying and even a bit shameful at times.

17 years old, and some weekends my parents had no idea where I was or what I was doing from Friday afternoon until Monday morning. If they asked I would just say I was 'out', and it was the same for whichever even younger chick had hopped on my pillion. Only years later did I consider what worries we must have put the old folks through.  :-\

I jumped on a flight to here in 1981 at 22 years old, I didn't know a soul in JHB but I had a job offer.  :biggrin:

I phoned home some months later to say I was OK, in the interim my Mother when asked "have you heard from Ian" she would reply, no, no news means there is no bad news. Tough old duck that one. :biggrin:

My father had the same approach. If he does not hear from me its going well. When he did hear from me its I wanted money and he would send me a money gram.

Now who remembers that and their post office savings book ?
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Amsterdam on April 26, 2020, 04:51:55 pm
Ah memories!  Maybe I should at some stage start a ride report of that trip.
So there you go: open a Word document and work on it when you have a chance or feel lus.
It'll grow with time and then you can post it here - rest assured I will devour it!  :thumleft:

Yep, that is the way to do it.  I will make a start soon-is.

And proof of that yellow Bell helmet.
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: steveindar on April 26, 2020, 06:25:44 pm
Many moons ago there was an article in the Bark SA about a Euro couple on two XT500's that toured South America.
On some big river they mounted the bikes on a barge and rigged a waterwheel to the back wheel of both bikes to power the barge. They even had a mistspray water system to cool the bikes down cause they worked at idle speed.
In Patagonia they rigged the two bikes together and put a sail between them and traveled like that because of the constant high winds in that country. Riding on one bike was just too dangerous because of the winds.

I have searched the internet but cannot find anything about the trip.
I remember that article. Asked my mates who worked at Bike SA or close with Simon. One recalls but tossed all his mags ages ago. Will have to ask the Fourie's. Or send a mail to the new version. I remember every copy was filed by year in hard files. Must be somewhere. Also got me lusting after an XT. When years later I got one it was a love/hate relationship. Riding to the mine at 5am off road with 6v electrics! I eventually borrowed a miners lamp and bodged it my spikerish lafe just to see past the handlebars.
Did many trips around Rhodesia on an old XL350. Will dig deep to find those pics.


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Welsh on April 26, 2020, 06:36:10 pm
Really, I mustn't go boring everyone with a Monty Python type memoir, starting "You kids in the 80's didn't know you were born. Back in the 60's, we..... :3some: ::)

But the freedom we enjoyed then, looking back soberly was more like irresponsible licence. It was fun at the time but horrifying and even a bit shameful at times.

17 years old, and some weekends my parents had no idea where I was or what I was doing from Friday afternoon until Monday morning. If they asked I would just say I was 'out', and it was the same for whichever even younger chick had hopped on my pillion. Only years later did I consider what worries we must have put the old folks through.  :-\

I jumped on a flight to here in 1981 at 22 years old, I didn't know a soul in JHB but I had a job offer.  :biggrin:

I phoned home some months later to say I was OK, in the interim my Mother when asked "have you heard from Ian" she would reply, no, no news means there is no bad news. Tough old duck that one. :biggrin:

My father had the same approach. If he does not hear from me its going well. When he did hear from me its I wanted money and he would send me a money gram.

Now who remembers that and their post office savings book ?

No I don't, but and a BIG BUT, do these kids ever lose mummy's apron strings, do they go days, weeks, months, without parents interacting? do they really gain independence? or is it a long daily chat with mum? is this part of why they no longer move out and live forever with mum and dad, because they haven't got the balls to go out and face the world Alone?   
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: katana on April 26, 2020, 07:35:53 pm
Many moons ago there was an article in the Bark SA about a Euro couple on two XT500's that toured South America.
On some big river they mounted the bikes on a barge and rigged a waterwheel to the back wheel of both bikes to power the barge. They even had a mistspray water system to cool the bikes down cause they worked at idle speed.
In Patagonia they rigged the two bikes together and put a sail between them and traveled like that because of the constant high winds in that country. Riding on one bike was just too dangerous because of the winds.

I have searched the internet but cannot find anything about the trip.
I remember that article. Asked my mates who worked at Bike SA or close with Simon. One recalls but tossed all his mags ages ago. Will have to ask the Fourie's. Or send a mail to the new version. I remember every copy was filed by year in hard files. Must be somewhere. Also got me lusting after an XT. When years later I got one it was a love/hate relationship. Riding to the mine at 5am off road with 6v electrics! I eventually borrowed a miners lamp and bodged it my spikerish lafe just to see past the handlebars.
Did many trips around Rhodesia on an old XL350. Will dig deep to find those pics.


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Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: Mother on April 27, 2020, 07:01:47 am


My father had the same approach. If he does not hear from me its going well. When he did hear from me its I wanted money and he would send me a money gram.

Now who remembers that and their post office savings book ?
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my father was the same.....

not to hijack this post my father got me into biking many moons ago.........when i saw your thread just brought back those memories as a kid i looked up to my dad (on the right) he was a real old school biker
Title: Re: Many moons ago....
Post by: 4 Kays on April 27, 2020, 12:46:55 pm
"was dit 'n uiterse uitdaging om my deklus in toom te hou".  :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer: Ou Dors, jy het my nou lekker laat lag  :lol8:

Jy het nie oor die jare veel verander nie  :peepwall: