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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: Tiger8 on July 10, 2020, 09:08:10 am

Title: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Tiger8 on July 10, 2020, 09:08:10 am
Saw this earlier from my riding WA group, interesting, seems we will be getting smaller and hopefully lighter Adv bikes as many riders have been asking for.

https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/pierer-confirms-500cc-adventure-bikes-for-ktm-husqvarna-coming/
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: LouisXander on July 10, 2020, 09:14:35 am
If it looks like this, then hell yeah!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/4518694ae2b04ced2e7ae4c1d4aaea19.jpg)
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Dwerg on July 10, 2020, 09:21:20 am
Don't know how excited I am about a low capacity p-twin as a DS platform
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: LouisXander on July 10, 2020, 09:26:19 am
I, for one, is kark excited!!!
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Dwerg on July 10, 2020, 09:28:50 am
I just don't see benefits over a single. It's probably going to be heavier and have less low grunt. It's unlikely to be cheaper either
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: edgy on July 10, 2020, 09:32:48 am
A twin is by nature very much smoother and hence far more comfortable on the open road....obviously with a weight penalty though
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on July 10, 2020, 09:47:04 am
Probably only for 2022 YM
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 10, 2020, 09:50:06 am
I just don't see benefits over a single. It's probably going to be heavier and have less low grunt. It's unlikely to be cheaper either

Absolutely! More weight and less low-down torque.  And low-end torque is exactly why I love smaller, light singles.

Now you have a twin with less low-down torque, yet ti still cannot cruise nowhere near as well as a big bike.

Lose-lose.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Dwerg on July 10, 2020, 10:08:42 am
I just don't see benefits over a single. It's probably going to be heavier and have less low grunt. It's unlikely to be cheaper either

Absolutely! More weight and less low-down torque.  And low-end torque is exactly why I love smaller, light singles.

Now you have a twin with less low-down torque, yet ti still cannot cruise nowhere near as well as a big bike.

Lose-lose.

Exactly. Take the Honda CB500X as an example. A 690 will run circles around it power wise. The latest 690 will run with (probably outrun) a 800GS everywhere except top end and it's actually quite a fair bit smoother.

But you never know, maybe they pull another belter out, maybe another one for the indian market. We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: sidetrack on July 10, 2020, 12:16:20 pm
Modern 500cc twin will surely be smoother on open sections vs a single but I too would prefer a single for the tighter off road stuff. Honda 500cc Rally with 45hp would be my ideal bike.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: LouisXander on July 10, 2020, 12:21:11 pm
Is dit hoekom my stok ou XR 600R so goed is?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 10, 2020, 12:22:52 pm
I just don't see benefits over a single. It's probably going to be heavier and have less low grunt. It's unlikely to be cheaper either

Absolutely! More weight and less low-down torque.  And low-end torque is exactly why I love smaller, light singles.

Now you have a twin with less low-down torque, yet ti still cannot cruise nowhere near as well as a big bike.

Lose-lose.
The Kawasaki KLE 500 was a lekke twin in that size Danie. OK no racer but good reliable engine.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: sidetrack on July 10, 2020, 12:33:10 pm
I just don't see benefits over a single. It's probably going to be heavier and have less low grunt. It's unlikely to be cheaper either

Absolutely! More weight and less low-down torque.  And low-end torque is exactly why I love smaller, light singles.

Now you have a twin with less low-down torque, yet ti still cannot cruise nowhere near as well as a big bike.

Lose-lose.
The Kawasaki KLE 500 was a lekke twin in that size Danie. OK no racer but good reliable engine.
Ja but quite pap torque wise, I had one. Think it revved past 10 000rpm
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: LouisXander on July 10, 2020, 12:34:49 pm
Ktm is not stupid, its only their bikes that break

Im sure they'll adapt whatever to have low down torque
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: sidetrack on July 10, 2020, 12:41:23 pm
That 390 single in the current KTM is a very nice motor but they should have offered it with spoke wheels (21/18) and updated the suspension travel.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 10, 2020, 12:53:42 pm
That 390 single in the current KTM is a very nice motor but they should have offered it with spoke wheels (21/18) and updated the suspension travel.
Stem lyk te padbikerig :deal: :(
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Gee S on July 10, 2020, 01:35:39 pm
Probably only for 2022 YM

That may be so but it will still be here before the T7 >:D
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: LouisXander on July 10, 2020, 01:37:32 pm
A change in government will also before a T7 reach these shores
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 10, 2020, 04:06:09 pm
A change in government will also before a T7 reach these shores

One instance where I'll happily wait longer for the T7.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Edgar on July 10, 2020, 06:34:07 pm
That 390 single in the current KTM is a very nice motor but they should have offered it with spoke wheels (21/18) and updated the suspension travel.

Had they done that, that bike would be standing in my garage....  even just spoked wheels. But I get where KTM is going whith the 390 Adventure. Good for them.
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: Welsh on July 10, 2020, 06:42:08 pm
I, for one, is kark excited!!!

It will look like Fat Albert with a bicycle stuck in his arse cheeks.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: BuRP on July 13, 2020, 12:36:48 pm
I reckon the 490 Adv will be a runaway success, even when it will come with cast wheels (which will be swapped by many then)!
It's big enough (don't think the 390 is...) for "further", and it'll be light enough for difficult stuff  :thumleft:
Title: Re: New KTM 490 Adventure and Husky 501
Post by: LouisXander on July 13, 2020, 12:38:39 pm
True Burpie, I also think so. But then, its only in our older age that we realise weight is everything...