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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => Suzuki DR & DRZ => Topic started by: Poffmuis on November 19, 2008, 04:19:06 pm

Title: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on November 19, 2008, 04:19:06 pm
no post of non forum bikes, lets keep this thread local.
Zees I know about
me
sidetrack
Bus
LGF


Post your mods and pics here. Sidetrack I know yours is posted already, will do a search later and paste it.

Nice thing about these bikes is that hardly any of them look the same. So lets see em...

Heres mine

My recent changes. Frame upgrade from E model to S model.

What she looked like when I bought her:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/Ry6t0729vpI/AAAAAAAAANk/pF4X_peySP0/s400/100_1692.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UYcxLpsKNyE27KCxxrA9Ig)

First had to strip the whole back down
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/SSQcUm6vuhI/AAAAAAAABQE/TvYI1MM27iQ/s400/100_0066.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/o9gwkUbEUKZX9U-B_FYCkg)

Difference in the two frames
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/SSQcWvRiY8I/AAAAAAAABQM/DdNMdDL-N_k/s400/100_0069.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/99y0GgpCpZhskHWTpU7OXw)

Final product also fitted with new yellow plastics and tail decal kit.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/SSQcXt1W8iI/AAAAAAAABQU/3T1sKDzqaiM/s400/100_0070.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cSyZ5XVKI0n1DHoUfvVwhQ)


Changes made to bike:
RV Aqualine 28 liter tank
Renthal Fatbar and billeted bar clamp risers
Full yellow plastics :biggrin:
BMW Dakar Screen
Polisport Handgaurds
Polisport Tail light
LED Indicators
Trailmax Vapor (not yet fitted)
Bosson Zorst (will post pic tomorrow)
One industries tail decal
Hyde Developments Skid plate
K&N Airfilter

My list is so short compared to Sidetrack's :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 19, 2008, 09:47:51 pm
The mods for these bikes are almost infinite.

When I got mine a Clarke tank was first on the list. I think in it's previous life it was used on Tokyo tar, very roadfriendly setup when I got it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/tank3.jpg)

Soon I decided to make some rad guards when I went off a cliff and the left rad was badly bent. No problems since  :thumleft:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/rad.jpg)

Then some big headlights yeah !

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/front.jpg)

And my favourite pic of my scoot  :drif:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/DSCF4760.jpg)

Must say the fun really started with some performance mods. With the help of Runner the Athena 440 kit and a pair of Hotcams really made the bike come alive. But do the cams as a pair, with just the intake it was no where near as good as it is now with the ex cam in there.

(http://fstg.motosport.com/motographics/images/products/hardparts/engine/athenabigbore_ltz400.jpg)

To do on any DR -

- file down the back of the shift lever to avoid it cracking the magneto cover
- remove snorkel and open up airbox
- rejet if it's the Mikuni BSR carb
- radiator protection
- bigger tank
- buy or build case savers, stock magnesium covers are thin !
- GET A FCR CARB ASAP !!!
- I service mine every 3000 km, manual says 6000 km

Thumpertalk has loads of info on DRZ's, to check your valve clearance read here -> http://www.pegmonkey.com/howto/valve_adjust/drz400 (http://www.pegmonkey.com/howto/valve_adjust/drz400)
Lots of usefull info and tips to be found here -> http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=397&s=c66193995b0a7cb3aab4dad3ed661cb5& (http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=397&s=c66193995b0a7cb3aab4dad3ed661cb5&)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 20, 2008, 05:01:49 pm
I posted this a while back, but here it is again for any new DRZ owners.


I first fitted some Potaper bars with risers and some Cycra handguards.
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010042_tn.jpg)

Next was a proper bashplate - here's the original...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/q13.jpg)

...and the new one...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/q4.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/q6.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/q5.jpg)

Then some case savers...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/q12.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/q10.jpg)

and a SuMo front fender...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/p1010034_tn.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/p1010033_tn.jpg)

...aluminium radiator guards...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010035_tn.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010038_tn.jpg)
you can also see the Acerbis 16L tank here.

Fitted a GPT micro rev counter...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/p1010024.jpg)

...and moved the ignition to the side to tidy up the "cockpit"...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/p1010016.jpg)

Had the seat widened and re-upholstered...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010031.jpg)

Then fitted a luggage rack...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010020.jpg)
the torpedo tubes are gone

Under the rear fender extar straps for re-inforcement
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010019.jpg)

Next a Dakar screen...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1000579_tn.jpg)

...and a Wolfman Enduro tank bag
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1000582_tn.jpg)

Then the FMF Powerbomb header arrived...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010041_tn.jpg)

and I built  racks to keep my panniers of the exhaust and bodywork...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010385_tn.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010384_tn.jpg)
you can also see the flush-mounted indicators...

...and a rear tool tube...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010380_tn.jpg)

and front tube for tyre levers and as "highway" pegs...
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/P1010392.jpg)

That's it so far! ;D

Oh and a 6500K blue 90/100w headlight bulb which makes one helluva difference!




Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 20, 2008, 09:37:52 pm
Looking good, Newguy still have those white sidepanels ? LGF that front fender looks good, avaliable in black ? Pro's and cons, a sixth gear would have been nice for cruising.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mountainboy on November 21, 2008, 06:31:37 am
without a doubt one of my favourite bikes. i love DRZ's, great thread. SIDETRACK, what kind of fender is that in the first pic?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 21, 2008, 07:18:35 am
Looking good, Newguy still have those white sidepanels ? LGF that front fender looks good, avaliable in black ? Pro's and cons, a sixth gear would have been nice for cruising.

SD, I think so - check the Acebis site. 6th gear - YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then you could keep the standard 14/47 gearing for the technical bits and still be able to cruise comfortably.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on November 21, 2008, 08:28:07 am
Looking good, Newguy still have those white sidepanels ? LGF that front fender looks good, avaliable in black ? Pro's and cons, a sixth gear would have been nice for cruising.

Yup, you want to have them posted? or will you be in CPT at some point over December?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JacquesM on November 21, 2008, 10:23:25 am
We also brought one home yesterday for Tinus.

He wanted the bike's name to start with RMZ, which I said he could get the moment I've got confirmation that his own medical aid has kicked in.




Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mountainboy on November 21, 2008, 10:43:48 am
lekker man :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: anton_ on November 21, 2008, 11:17:31 am

Nice! A DRZ tread :thumleft:

I also have a Z witch I only use to ride off-road in Moz. It is one of the nicest bikes I have ever had!  :biggrin:

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb51/aeprins/15102008079.jpg)

I did not do a lot of mods, only tried to make it as light as possible to keep up with the 450's - witch it actually does... 

I however have a few questions. What sprocket sizes are the best to be used for on road riding?
And "sidetrack" can I please have a close up of your lights? It looks awesome :drif:




Thanks!


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 21, 2008, 11:39:02 am
15-44 is best for on/off road balance

For only road use, go for 15-41

I run 15-40 for motard and its perfect...

I will add my bike & mods & stuffs to this thread soon...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: anton_ on November 21, 2008, 12:35:30 pm
Thanks! :thumleft: :thumleft:

I am currently running 15\48, it works in the sand but on the road I am going to kill the motor...

I did a few mods as per ‚??Thumper talk‚?Ě. :deal:

Did the 3x3 air box thing
Opened the exhaust
Thread locker on the stator bolts & starter clutch
Filed the back of the gearlever
Added 10W40 full synthetic oil
Raised the handle bars by 30mm



Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on November 21, 2008, 01:04:09 pm
I run a 15/43 on mine. And have no trouble riding in sand with it (in fact in sand I pull away in second so gearing is not to tall at all for sand). For slow technical trail riding you may find your self on the clutch a bit too often though.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: anton_ on November 21, 2008, 01:31:49 pm
My bike might be carrying a bit more weight?  :mwink:

If I want to be able to do 120-130km/h comfortably,  I suppose 15/40 would be better?

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 21, 2008, 01:39:42 pm
I would stick to 15-41, the 40 I put on only because the motard wheel is quite a bit smaller than the dirt wheel. (Smaller wheel lowers the gearing)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 22, 2008, 12:09:35 am
15 44 for me, races up to 160 km h easily buy I like cruising at 110 :) Thanks Newguy will let you know, just keep them for me plz.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on November 24, 2008, 01:33:21 pm
15 44 for me, races up to 160 km h easily

I nailed my Z the other day with my 15:43 gearing and only managed 148km/h on the gps.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 24, 2008, 06:59:42 pm
The speedo is optimistic by about 9 km/h.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JacquesM on November 25, 2008, 03:42:18 pm
I need some advice on my son's DRZ please. I lacks in the power department.

The dealer took out a "device" that is nothing short of a plug from the back of the exhaust. Seems like it would have heavily throttled the poor bike - completely closed, except for a few klein gaatjies drilled into the side. The bike now sounds like it's got a 'Povic or something for free. It's actually too noisy for my liking.

He said that there is a restrictor on the carburetor that he'll attend to when the bike comes in for it's first service.

The problem: The bike pulls really nice in the bottom half of the rev range and then starts stuttering like it's running out of fuel. I haven't taken it on an open road, but it feels like it might make 80 or so k's an hour.

Need one be concerned?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 25, 2008, 04:13:44 pm
I know that the UK spec bikes have a restrictor in the top of the carb. All it needs is to be removed. Check on Thumpertalk.com

And you will be amazed what a jet kit can do for the bike.

The standard exhaust is also very restrictive. Maybe look at getting a powerbomb header like Letsgofishing.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 25, 2008, 04:47:19 pm
There's a  little sleeve on the carb arm that prevents you from opening the throttle completely - they reckon it's so you don't over-rev the engine during  the running-in period. I believe it's a real PITA riding 1000k's at a maximum speed of 80kph >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on November 25, 2008, 05:30:40 pm
First prize would be to buy yourself a MX carb. Some of the other oakes have it fitted, you can ask them. I think sidetrack said it was his single best mod.




question from my side, where can I find the cheapest case savers?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2008, 09:58:00 pm
Check and clean airfilter, remove snorkel in airbox. The carb boot at the intake is partly blocked off when stock, also check for a throttle stop. Main jet may be too small as well.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2008, 10:05:18 pm
Made my own case savers, the rtv cost more than the aluminium. Takes time though, lots of fitting and rubber mallet involved. Thumpertalk sells them like LGF has.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JacquesM on November 25, 2008, 10:20:56 pm
Thanks for the advice. Maybe we shouldn't mechanic it too much before the first service.

It will not do any long distance now, so it  can wait for Piet Suzuki-man to fix.

It has less than a quarter turn of trottle, must be that sleeve on the carb.

We'll wait patiently, and my chances of keeping up with TeeWee and TeeTer are better.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 26, 2008, 07:28:03 am
Made my own case savers, the rtv cost more than the aluminium. Takes time though, lots of fitting and rubber mallet involved. Thumpertalk sells them like LGF has.

Thumpertalk - $37 for the pair
http://shop.thumpertalk.com/DRZ_Case_Shields_p/bp_cfc_case.htm
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 26, 2008, 05:51:14 pm
Thumpertalk your one stop DR shop :) If anyone orders from there I'm looking for TT front fender stickers.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 27, 2008, 07:50:49 am
Guys, check the countershaft nut - the one that holds the front sprocket on. MIne was loose - with just the turned up washer holding it on!
Take it off, add some locktite and replace.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 27, 2008, 07:59:32 am
Thumpertalk your one stop DR shop :) If anyone orders from there I'm looking for TT front fender stickers.

Got this spare if you like
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 27, 2008, 08:58:04 am
I'll take it  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 27, 2008, 10:42:16 am
I'll take it  :thumleft:

PM me your postal address.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 28, 2008, 12:46:09 pm
Help please guys - will a 140/80-18 fit my rear? (the rim, not me  ;))
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 28, 2008, 09:35:35 pm
Help please guys - will a 140/80-18 fit my rear? (the rim, not me  ;))

Sure it will fit, a friends CRF had one on and they use the same size rims I think. I run the 120 606 on the back and it's perfect, I would not go for a 140 on a 400.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Runner on November 28, 2008, 09:44:31 pm
Help please guys - will a 140/80-18 fit my rear? (the rim, not me  ;))

Sure it will fit, a friends CRF had one on and they use the same size rims I think. I run the 120 606 on the back and it's perfect, I would not go for a 140 on a 400.

All those Hunters Gold is getting to you, I got home now, Runner 1, Jack 0. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2008, 09:39:15 am
Help please guys - will a 140/80-18 fit my rear? (the rim, not me  ;))

Sure it will fit, a friends CRF had one on and they use the same size rims I think. I run the 120 606 on the back and it's perfect, I would not go for a 140 on a 400.

All those Hunters Gold is getting to you, I got home now, Runner 1, Jack 0. :biggrin:
Daai biere laat die DR nog lekkerder ry :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 29, 2008, 10:36:42 am
Had the head re-torque, oil changed and dyno'ed after my 1000k run-in period.
Prevoiusly, having fitted  the FMF powerbomb header and rejetting the carb, the motor ws putting out 32.77 hp at the rear wheel.
Having now had the head ported and gas-flowed. it's putting out 37.23  hp   - a 14% increase! ;D ;D ;D
Torque has gone up from 31.75 nm to 33.93 nm - a 6% increase  ;D

I reckon for R1700, this has got the be the most cost-effective power increase around!
No added stress to the motor and no potential problems due to boring etc.

Now that I've had a chance to open her up - man, she pulls like a train!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2008, 03:16:43 pm
Had the head re-torque, oil changed and dyno'ed after my 1000k run-in period.
Prevoiusly, having fitted  the FMF powerbomb header and rejetting the carb, the motor ws putting out 32.77 hp at the rear wheel.
Having now had the head ported and gas-flowed. it's putting out 37.23  hp   - a 14% increase! ;D ;D ;D
Torque has gone up from 31.75 nm to 33.93 nm - a 6% increase  ;D

I reckon for R1700, this has got the be the most cost-effective power increase around!
No added stress to the motor and no potential problems due to boring etc.

Now that I've had a chance to open her up - man, she pulls like a train!

Awesome ! I have read on TT that it's tricky to flow a DRZ head as stock they are pretty good. Obviously the guy knows his story, do you think the new piston could have added some compression too ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 29, 2008, 05:51:38 pm
Had the head re-torque, oil changed and dyno'ed after my 1000k run-in period.
Prevoiusly, having fitted  the FMF powerbomb header and rejetting the carb, the motor ws putting out 32.77 hp at the rear wheel.
Having now had the head ported and gas-flowed. it's putting out 37.23  hp   - a 14% increase! ;D ;D ;D
Torque has gone up from 31.75 nm to 33.93 nm - a 6% increase  ;D

I reckon for R1700, this has got the be the most cost-effective power increase around!
No added stress to the motor and no potential problems due to boring etc.

Now that I've had a chance to open her up - man, she pulls like a train!

Awesome ! I have read on TT that it's tricky to flow a DRZ head as stock they are pretty good. Obviously the guy knows his story, do you think the new piston could have added some compression too ?

No ST, the original piston was absolutely fine, just the rings were replaced ;D
By the way, your sticker is in the post!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2008, 06:21:45 pm
Thanks, some nice power gains which ads to the fun factor  :ricky: Who is the guy who did the porting ? May send my head down  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on December 04, 2008, 08:09:46 am
Thanks, some nice power gains which ads to the fun factor  :ricky: Who is the guy who did the porting ? May send my head down  :biggrin:

You won't have to - a company called "Powerhouse" in JHB did the work :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JacquesM on December 07, 2008, 05:02:50 pm
I took my son's DRZ with us in the Kombi to Nelspruit on Wednesday. I planned on returning on Thursday with the bike. I had some nice gravel sections mapped and printed in the handle bar bag.

My plans changed and I had to return on Wednesday afternoon. The first section was on the tar via Kaapsehoop.

Leaving Nelspruit I saw that the bike could reach 80 on the level, 100 and a very little on the downs, and sometimes below 60 on the ups.

I decided to stop at Ngodwana to try and remove whatever limited the throttle movement. I found a stopper on the carb that prevents it opening more than about halfway, which I removed.

I only had the bike's tools and a Leatherman and worked for over an hour. Because I didn't have a 7mm open ended spanner, I had to remove the carb to undo the stopper.

Getting back on the road revealed a major surprise as the throttle could open fully but no improvement in the power. I then decided to stick to the tar except for a nice piece of gravel around the Machadodorp tollplaza, saving R49 in the process. It was dark when I got to Wonderfontein. It started raining between Wonderfontein and Middelburg and I rode in the rain  for 65km. Arriving home at 21h00 could only be decribed as: koud en nat, Gert, koud en nat.

I took the bike back to the dealer on Thursday and we got it back yesterday. I haven't ridden it yet but my son only said: "nou's hy reg", proven by the ease with which he pops a wheelie.


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on December 08, 2008, 07:16:44 am
Take it for a ride yourself now - the grin factor is bound to increase!  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 02, 2009, 02:51:02 pm
 :drif:

(http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq328/schattat/Africa%20Race/Scrutineering/One/DSC02513.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on January 07, 2009, 07:43:47 am
Picked this one up on Monday!!! Will add more and better photies later. Let the farkling begin!!!
Not quite like the ones in the above post...but give her time, she'll get there. :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 07, 2009, 07:49:47 pm
Would like some feedback from other IMS owners. My IMS started to leak for the second time today. First was on the EC bash trip when it had a small crack near the frame lug. Now it's leaking from the frame mount. Maybe I'm just unlucky but I won't recommend a IMS to anyone.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Runner on January 07, 2009, 08:39:33 pm
First prize would be to buy yourself a MX carb. Some of the other oakes have it fitted, you can ask them. I think sidetrack said it was his single best mod.




question from my side, where can I find the cheapest case savers?


All DRZ's after 2003 in SA came with FCR MX carbs.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on January 08, 2009, 08:01:59 am
First prize would be to buy yourself a MX carb. Some of the other oakes have it fitted, you can ask them. I think sidetrack said it was his single best mod.




question from my side, where can I find the cheapest case savers?


All DRZ's after 2003 in SA came with FCR MX carbs.

Surely not the SM as well?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 08, 2009, 08:23:54 am
No the SM is essentially still a S.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Runner on January 08, 2009, 05:04:28 pm
First prize would be to buy yourself a MX carb. Some of the other oakes have it fitted, you can ask them. I think sidetrack said it was his single best mod.




question from my side, where can I find the cheapest case savers?


All DRZ's after 2003 in SA came with FCR MX carbs.

Surely not the SM as well?

All D/S DRZ's, a SM is not exactly a Adv bike.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on January 09, 2009, 07:55:22 am
First prize would be to buy yourself a MX carb. Some of the other oakes have it fitted, you can ask them. I think sidetrack said it was his single best mod.




question from my side, where can I find the cheapest case savers?


All DRZ's after 2003 in SA came with FCR MX carbs.

Surely not the SM as well?

All D/S DRZ's, a SM is not exactly a Adv bike.

Yep I know its not an adventure bike. Its still a DRZ though ;) :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on January 27, 2009, 04:36:26 pm
I started doing some stuff to my DRZ. Have only had it for a short time but man what a lovely bike!

First I removed the gearlever to file the sharp "bottle opener like" edge away. I obviously could not do only that as I was having so much fun so I filed away the molding ridges at the top of the lever as well and then sanded and polished it to a beautifull shine.  :)
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1113/gearzr5.jpg)

I hated the standard place where the ignition switch was mounted so I removed the bracket, reshaped it and moved it to a place where I like it better.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6568/ignition2ak4.jpg)
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1517/ignitionny9.jpg)

I am busy making a fibreglass case saver for the clutch lever side and will post some pics as soon as it is done.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on January 27, 2009, 05:01:08 pm
I started doing some stuff to my DRZ. Have only had it for a short time but man what a lovely bike!

First I removed the gearlever to file the sharp "bottle opener like" edge away. I obviously could not do only that as I was having so much fun so I filed away the molding ridges at the top of the lever as well and then sanded and polished it to a beautifull shine.  :)
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1113/gearzr5.jpg)

I hated the standard place where the ignition switch was mounted so I removed the bracket, reshaped it and moved it to a place where I like it better.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6568/ignition2ak4.jpg)
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1517/ignitionny9.jpg)

I am busy making a fibreglass case saver for the clutch lever side and will post some pics as soon as it is done.

Nice job on the shift lever :glasses10:
Also moved the ignition
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/p1010016.jpg)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on January 27, 2009, 05:05:18 pm
:drif:

(http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq328/schattat/Africa%20Race/Scrutineering/One/DSC02513.jpg)

Yesss please - but minus all the stickers ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 27, 2009, 05:05:51 pm
Lekke fred this!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 27, 2009, 09:53:38 pm
LGF do you have a fan on your bike ? Fitted a Acerbis E tank and the fan had to go, not sure if it's a good idea. I know offroad E's have no fan. Will post some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 27, 2009, 09:54:36 pm
LGF do you have a fan on your bike ? Fitted a Acerbis E tank and the fan had to go, not sure if it's a good idea. I know offroad E's have no fan. Will post some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 27, 2009, 09:56:07 pm
LGF do you have a fan on your bike ? Fitted a Acerbis E tank and the fan had to go, not sure if it's a good idea. I know offroad E's have no fan. Will post some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on January 28, 2009, 07:56:03 am
ST, are you PUI or what? ;)

My E came without a fan which concerned me - no overheating problems to date though, even when riding technical tracks.
Even if it did have a fan, with the Acerbis tank and radiator protectors, there wouldn't be space.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 28, 2009, 11:38:08 am
ST, are you PUI or what? ;)

My E came without a fan which concerned me - no overheating problems to date though, even when riding technical tracks.
Even if it did have a fan, with the Acerbis tank and radiator protectors, there wouldn't be space.

Just really bugging me I don't have a fan no more. It used to come on alot when riding technical bits. Maybe look for a way to mount a smaller fan, then again you never had overheating problems so I guess it should be fine.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on January 28, 2009, 03:57:09 pm
I guess it would be possible to fit a cage type computer fan...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 03, 2009, 09:33:29 pm
I'm seriously considering converting to supermoto setup. I find myself riding less and less dirt. Took a quick spin the other day after work and the bike is awesome with the work Runner did to the motor. I reckon with some grippy 17 inchers it would be a fun little commuter  >:D I'd like to keep my Talon hubs, what rim options do I have and how much ?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/kickass/IMG_0484.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 04, 2009, 07:48:51 am
That's quite sad ST - you've done some awesome RR's in the past.
What work did Runner do on the bike?
Regards getting rims here, I have no idea, but a quick search on the net brought up this site:
http://www.btosports.com/cs/search?Search=Excel+Rims
maybe they have something that would work - prices are reasonable - $100 front $200 rear

This guy is selling 17" rims and tyres for R7500!
http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-for-Sale-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-SUZUKI-DRZ-400-E-AND-MOTARD-RIMS-W0QQAdIdZ108991145
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 04, 2009, 08:11:07 am
I would also like to know what you have had done now??  :3some:

I'm picking my bike up from superbike solutions this afternoon. Dyno jet for my bosson zorst and K&N filter and a powershot expansion bowl for the accelerator pump.
Will give you some feedback tomorrow.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 04, 2009, 08:18:56 am
ST, I say keep the offroad wheels, you will be sorry if you unlace them.

Rather get some small superbike mags & convert it to fit as SM wheels.

Check out the "hooligan mod" on TT

Then you have 2 bikes, its awesome!!

But if you insist, I think Mxalliance sells Excel rims seperately and as complete wheel sets wiff hubs & spokes.

BTW, I also want to know what Runner did to the bike...

You didnt perhaps go apeshit and fit the stroker crank?  :drif:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 04, 2009, 03:18:06 pm
 :bueller: why are we waiting
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 04, 2009, 06:40:21 pm
Hotcam ex cam installed, pulls well on top. Really happy it really goes ! The stroker yes, still a dream for now. Second set would be ideal but again price wise a bit steep.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: bushclown on March 04, 2009, 09:16:41 pm

Saw in bike sa a set of 17" wheels going for 3k mag rims and with some mods could easy get them on your DrZ
I was considering them for the 525 just i dont have streets to ride on, had a set of race motard rims for my Husaberg and i used them once :thumleft:

Dont get rid of the off road set shop around you will find a  17" set some time for a bargain
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 04, 2009, 10:49:45 pm
my baby is running great with just over 40hp on the dyno. thats 3 horses just from sorting the carb out. will post the dyno graphs tomorrow.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 05, 2009, 07:30:43 am
3hp may not sound like much to the bigger bikes, but its makes quite a difference on a bike this size.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 05, 2009, 07:43:20 am
Newguy, that's pretty impressive - what are the other mods you have on your bike?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 05, 2009, 08:01:15 am
Its only the K&N filter, the Bosson zorst and on the carb it's the jetting and the accelerator pump expansion thingy (this will only affect the throttle response).

What is the standard output??
This is on the rear wheel btw.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 05, 2009, 08:09:55 am
Oh shit - now you got me worried!  - yours is the S right?
Mine has been rejetted, head ported and polished, Powerbomb header pipe and gutted standard exhaust  = 37.23Hp!  ??? :'(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 05, 2009, 08:20:12 am
Nope, Mine is an E model, so the cams are hotter.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 05, 2009, 08:21:43 am
Ok, mine too - I wonder how come yours is putting out so much more power???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2009, 09:28:06 am
You need a jetting guru and 440 :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 05, 2009, 09:30:44 am
AFAIK Julian @ Superbike Solutions is one of the guru's in SA.
Took him 6 jets to find one he was happy with, 15 runs on the dyno. He takes real pride in his work and loves getting good feedback from customers.

He did find one problem on the bike though and told me that I would need to rewind my source coil as my spark is weak. :(

Oneday I will also have a 440 :drif:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 05, 2009, 11:08:13 am
You need a jetting guru and 440 :)

Seems like you're right ST! :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 05, 2009, 11:10:53 am
AFAIK Julian @ Superbike Solutions is one of the guru's in SA.
Took him 6 jets to find one he was happy with, 15 runs on the dyno. He takes real pride in his work and loves getting good feedback from customers.

Where are they based?

Quote
He did find one problem on the bike though and told me that I would need to rewind my source coil as my spark is weak. :(

Oneday I will also have a 440 :drif:

Dont worry boet, it happens to all of us at some stage!  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 05, 2009, 11:22:38 am
AFAIK Julian @ Superbike Solutions is one of the guru's in SA.
Took him 6 jets to find one he was happy with, 15 runs on the dyno. He takes real pride in his work and loves getting good feedback from customers.

Where are they based?

Somerset West - zero two one 8515538

Quote
He did find one problem on the bike though and told me that I would need to rewind my source coil as my spark is weak. :(

Oneday I will also have a 440 :drif:

Dont worry boet, it happens to all of us at some stage!  ;D

 :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2009, 05:05:07 pm
I had to rewind mine as well. It can be done for around R450.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 06, 2009, 10:11:02 am
I had to rewind mine as well. It can be done for around R450.

Did you take it out yourself?
if Yes, did you take picks, can you show me how?

ps. is the source coil also called the pickup coil?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: brettp on March 06, 2009, 04:03:54 pm
I might be a new recruite.......  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 06, 2009, 04:10:11 pm
Welcome to the lighter side of life. Hope you have LOTS of extra cash, cause these they love farkles!!!!

We can startoff with a new zorst
and a K&N filter
and some hot cams
and a MX carb
some decals
a hyde bash plate
and...

 :ricky:

What color? White/Black/Blue/Yellow?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 06, 2009, 04:19:44 pm
I had to rewind mine as well. It can be done for around R450.

Did you take it out yourself?
if Yes, did you take picks, can you show me how?

ps. is the source coil also called the pickup coil?

Here you go write up plus pics
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471360&highlight=how+to+remove+ignition+stator+cover
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: brettp on March 06, 2009, 04:20:58 pm
Welcome to the lighter side of life. Hope you have LOTS of extra cash, cause these they love farkles!!!!

We can startoff with a new zorst
and a K&N filter
and some hot cams
and a MX carb
some decals
a hyde bash plate
and...

 :ricky:

What color? White/Black/Blue/Yellow?

Blk!!!! Working on finalising the deal by mid next week......
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 06, 2009, 04:26:08 pm

Here you go write up plus pics
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471360&highlight=how+to+remove+ignition+stator+cover

Thanks  :thumleft:

Cool write up
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 06, 2009, 04:28:11 pm
Its an SM, btw boys, so stop trying to get Brettp to buy bashplates & panniers & shit

1st thing is the taillight, then in-yer-face loud pipe wiff jetting

And then the rest...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 06, 2009, 04:32:59 pm
 :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 07, 2009, 02:46:13 pm
I might be a new recruite.......  :ricky:

Ooh you're gonna love it.  :thumleft:
did a quick backroads trip to Harties again this morning - this is by far the most fun bike I have ever had.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 09, 2009, 08:09:46 am
I might be a new recruite.......  :ricky:

So? where is the pics?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 12, 2009, 10:23:06 am
I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping you guys can give some insight on.

I have removed the Pair valve and the carb solenoid on my bike as well as gutted the rear section of the stock pipe. For the rest the bike remains unchanged from stock.

From what I have read it seems that these bikes are set lean from the factory. Will my gutted pipe lean it out much more and cause any problems without rejetting? I have read on the thumpertalk that people rekon only changing the exaust does not require a rejet but I have a lot of popping on decelleration so I'm just a tad worried.

Bus perhaps you can give some info on this: I have an SM with pure road tyres - Pilot Road 2 on the rear and Dunlop 208Sm on the front. How will these tyres hold up on some moderate dirt? I have seen photos with SM's on some in some serious offroad terrrain. :o
I have been on the odd dirt section with my setup as is but was wondering what the general feeling about this is. How rough can I go without getting into too much trouble?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 12, 2009, 10:37:15 am
you can ask bus about the motard wheels on dirt.

as for the jetting. If you have cash to go for it then do. Its worth every cent. Running lean is not good for your valves, so it would be best to have it sorted.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 12, 2009, 11:30:08 am
The popping can be cured with the mixture screw. You may have to drill out a cover to get to it. Turn it 1/4 turn at a time and test. Fidly job, I have an external screw which makes it a breeze. I think anti clockwise richens the mixture which is what you want.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 12, 2009, 11:45:04 am
The popping can be cured with the mixture screw. You may have to drill out a cover to get to it. Turn it 1/4 turn at a time and test. Fidly job, I have an external screw which makes it a breeze. I think anti clockwise richens the mixture which is what you want.

Righto so I can just set it slightly richer without rejetting and that should solve some of my problems.
Ja if I remember correctly the mixture screw is hidden behind a cap - I'll see if I can drill it out tonight.

Thanks for the feedback guys  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 12, 2009, 11:53:12 am
I donít think you get much better flow from opening the endcap, so the jetting shouldnít be affected too much.

As soon as you put a larger header pipe, you should put richer main jet.

As for the mixture screw, you can get an aftermarket one that extends out of the bottom of the carb, like Sidetrackís one. I also have one that I imported from Kientech in USA. But you can get other ones locally, just not sure what they are called.

As for going off road with tart wheelsÖ Not the best idea in the world, but it can be done. I was actually surprised how well it coped. The biggest difference is that your front washes away much quicker on dirt with 17ís. I have Bridgestone BT56ís on mine.

So if you hit the dirt, sit back slightly and dont be silly with the throttle...

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 12, 2009, 12:40:58 pm
I don’t think you get much better flow from opening the endcap, so the jetting shouldn’t be affected too much.

As soon as you put a larger header pipe, you should put richer main jet.

As for the mixture screw, you can get an aftermarket one that extends out of the bottom of the carb, like Sidetrack’s one. I also have one that I imported from Kientech in USA. But you can get other ones locally, just not sure what they are called.

As for going off road with tart wheels… Not the best idea in the world, but it can be done. I was actually surprised how well it coped. The biggest difference is that your front washes away much quicker on dirt with 17’s. I have Bridgestone BT56’s on mine.

So if you hit the dirt, sit back slightly and dont be silly with the throttle...



Obviously you're talking from experience... :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 12, 2009, 01:23:26 pm
Cool thanks for all the advice.

During lunch I quickly had a look. It seems that mine had no cap over the screw. I adjusted it out by 1/2 turn already and the popping is less frequent but louder, if that makes any sense. It does seem to run a bit different - there is less of a dead spot in the mid-range and there seems to be less of a "powerband effect". The power seems to come on smoother throughout.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 12, 2009, 01:39:48 pm
and dont be silly with the throttle...

Obviously you're talking from experience... :D

Haha!!!

Of course it had nothing to do with me being windgat...

It was here on site at the stadium. I didnt quite bin it, but provided some labourers with their day's worth of entertainment... Almost had a dirt highside, LOL!!! The back came round and then decided to grip all of a sudden. It musta looked pretty hilarious in a bucking bronco/rodeo kind of way...

Only just managed to save it... I cringed as the okes all made the wha-wha-wha sound and throttle-twisting gestures...  ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 12, 2009, 02:10:30 pm
 :laughing4:  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 12, 2009, 02:14:38 pm
and dont be silly with the throttle...

Obviously you're talking from experience... :D

Haha!!!

Of course it had nothing to do with me being windgat...

It was here on site at the stadium. I didnt quite bin it, but provided some labourers with their day's worth of entertainment... Almost had a dirt highside, LOL!!! The back came round and then decided to grip all of a sudden. It musta looked pretty hilarious in a bucking bronco/rodeo kind of way...

Only just managed to save it... I cringed as the okes all made the wha-wha-wha sound and throttle-twisting gestures...  ::)

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

I often take the shortcut through the field to my office - it shortens the trip from 1.2km to 800m  :biggrin:
If I just chug through in 2nd and "be silly with the throttle" ;) all of a sudden the rear steps out very quickly without much warning.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 13, 2009, 08:21:57 am
You can see the extended mixture screw here (below fuel filter), annodized red for added bling  :biggrin:

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/mordies/DSCF8250.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 13, 2009, 08:37:37 am
Thanks  :thumleft:

I used a slightly modified paperclip as a screwdriver for the screw - works like a bomb.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on April 08, 2009, 11:06:48 am
Saw this pic on Thumpertalk.

It is an E model fitted with KTM motard wheels and plenty of chrome paint. Not sure of the practicality of the chrome paint but it looks awesome.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 08, 2009, 02:02:39 pm
Nee hel weet nie so mooi nie  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on April 08, 2009, 02:06:50 pm
Ek dink dis befok as 'n projek, maar nie baie prakties nie.

Jy kan nie ry sonder 'n sonbril nie...  8)

Sal nice lyk op 'n bar counter
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on April 08, 2009, 02:43:46 pm
Ek dink dis befok as 'n projek, maar nie baie prakties nie.

Jy kan nie ry sonder 'n sonbril nie...  8)

Sal nice lyk op 'n bar counter

Ek stem. Mooi om na te kyk as hy net iewers kan staan en nie gery word nie.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 09, 2009, 08:18:17 am
Saw this pic on Thumpertalk.

It is an E model fitted with KTM motard wheels and plenty of chrome paint. Not sure of the practicality of the chrome paint but it looks awesome.  :thumleft:

I think it would look awesome if the rad shrouds and rear panels were black...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on April 09, 2009, 08:52:00 am
Probably need to post my new toys here  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on April 09, 2009, 09:35:57 am
And what about a ride report, Ringpiece?  :lamer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 09, 2009, 08:55:16 pm
Probably need to post my new toys here  >:D

Oooh aaah  :drif:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on April 17, 2009, 09:08:13 am
As some of you know I had a bit of a mishap with my original exhaust and ended up with a big open endcan that looked terrible.

Bus gave me his old stock pipe which I cleaned up and painted and it looked and worked a charm. Seeing that I had a pipe on my bike I had an idea for a project with the original exhaust.

A friend of mine gave me a stock Yamaha Raptor pipe which looks rather nice so I decided to put it to use seeing that if I now buggered up the original pipe I would not be stranded without transport.

I measured and cut the first part with the mounts off the original pipe and cut the stainless Raptor pipe so that they could be welded together and the mounts would all match up, kinda  ;)
Ofcourse I first gutted the rear section of the raptor pipe and fitted a stainless end piece to it.

I did the 3x3 mod and rejetted it with a DJ kit which I sourced locally. This thing is now SUPER loud and runs like an monster.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on April 17, 2009, 02:22:14 pm
lekker  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Woestersous on April 18, 2009, 10:02:50 pm
Probably need to post my new toys here  >:D
Gaan wys ve Stroke Her, hy gaan prematurely 'n natkŰl los.  nice :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on April 19, 2009, 10:32:07 am
AFAIK Julian @ Superbike Solutions is one of the guru's in SA.
Took him 6 jets to find one he was happy with, 15 runs on the dyno. He takes real pride in his work and loves getting good feedback from customers.

He did find one problem on the bike though and told me that I would need to rewind my source coil as my spark is weak. :(

Oneday I will also have a 440 :drif:

THink he willl get my WR450 to 50hp?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on April 21, 2009, 07:35:31 pm
THink he willl get my WR450 to 50hp?

As hy nie gaan nie, gaan niemand nie
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on May 07, 2009, 10:22:17 pm
Hi I am a newbie but like to share what I have done so far to my DRZ. I use it almost daily as a way to commute but also do trips when I get the opportunity. Here's some pictures of the bike and some of the mods so far.

I made the screen out of perspex, I used a Dakar screen as template (I am in the process of making one out of a polycarbonate sheet)

I added a rack (which I mostly use to carry an extra 5 liter or 10 liter jerry can  ;) )
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 07, 2009, 10:34:52 pm
Welcome to the DRZhood ! The farkle possibilities on this bike is endless, no less than 8 longrange tanks to choose from alone. Edgy show us yours.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on May 08, 2009, 06:00:18 am
Mine arrived yesterday,shes a nearly new one and i got some learning to do.....on how to get the best outta her.
So far ridden 10 kays! She needs longer legs! But nice and strong through the gears!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on May 08, 2009, 06:55:06 am
A few more...is this the E?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 08, 2009, 07:39:13 am
Cool mtbiker and edgy - somy more for the cause  :D

edgy that is indeed the E. The E is geared very different to the S and the SM. I have not tested the topend yet on mine after the rejet but it used to top out at around 150km/h whereas I think the E with standard gearing gets to about 110Km/h, while it does some to vary quite widely from bike to bike.

The DR-Z is a bloody marvelous bike, you wil love it to bits.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 08, 2009, 08:43:03 am
Edgy I would suggest handguards and a good bash plate to start with and grind the back of the shift lever down.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on May 08, 2009, 03:16:41 pm
nice bikes chaps. Enjoy blinging it  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on May 08, 2009, 10:02:12 pm
Edgy,

I changed the rear sprocket to a 45, This makes it a lot more tar (and long distance) friendly. You'll read about people complaining that the DRZ is not made for distance, I disagree I've done trips up to 400km in one go and I enjoyed every kilometer. Also now with the screen it makes cruising at 100 - 110 kph a lot more comfortable :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 08, 2009, 10:09:05 pm
People said my 125 cant do distance . . . Ive done up to 470km's in a day.
Moral of the story, dont listen to 'people'. ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on May 08, 2009, 10:29:44 pm
Yip, I totally agree, I have read about your adventures on your 125, its not about the bike, its about the the freedom and the will to go to places you have never been before  :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 09, 2009, 02:31:25 pm
I have done 820 km in one day, 1000 km is not a problem  :ricky:

Day trips :

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0

Long trips :

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on May 09, 2009, 04:50:28 pm
People said my 125 cant do distance . . . Ive done up to 470km's in a day.
Moral of the story, dont listen to 'people'. ;D

I agree.

There are too many "comfort zone" people on Wilddogs nowadays.........  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Wolweseun on May 09, 2009, 09:55:03 pm
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on June 01, 2009, 08:09:26 pm
I opened my airbox today sommer at work, but it feels weaker now. I'm in JHB.

Another thing Sidetrack and myself was discussing. My time clock in the righthand top corner does not keep time. When I start the bike it starts at 01h00. Does it have a small battery like a pc for the clock or what?

Does anyone know?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 01, 2009, 09:24:07 pm
I opened my airbox today sommer at work, but it feels weaker now. I'm in JHB.

Another thing Sidetrack and myself was discussing. My time clock in the righthand top corner does not keep time. When I start the bike it starts at 01h00. Does it have a small battery like a pc for the clock or what?

Does anyone know?

Get some ductape and cover it up (the 3x3 hole), if it helps you need to go up one size richer. Also I heard it backfiring slightly so you need to adjust the fuel screw. I'm 100% sure there is no extra small battery in the speedo. It gets power from the normal battery. Does the colon flash between the hour and minute ? Thanks to Watty, try and set the clock again.

(http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/1/28/estreux/f_Odosettingm_f89b365.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 01, 2009, 09:59:53 pm
Could`nt find this thread ??? so posted pics elewhere of my "homemade" SE Hyde screen.
Not the prettiest,but works nonetheless!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 01, 2009, 10:03:37 pm
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Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 01, 2009, 10:06:26 pm
I have subsequently installed the Hyde bash plate and a Adv rack on the rear fender,will post pics soon
Waiting patiently to find a Edge tail-light and Clarke tank!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 01, 2009, 10:13:28 pm
Edgy
Pm newguy, he took the tank of his Z
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 01, 2009, 10:14:48 pm
Edgy
Pm newguy, he took the tank of his Z
What tank?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 01, 2009, 10:20:24 pm
I have subsequently installed the Hyde bash plate and a Adv rack on the rear fender,will post pics soon
Waiting patiently to find a Edge tail-light and Clarke tank!

Pimping becomes a desease on these bikes  :biggrin: Going to the bash on it ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 01, 2009, 10:22:57 pm
Dont know what tank, a yellow aftermarket one.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 01, 2009, 10:29:48 pm
Thanks,PM sent :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 01, 2009, 10:31:35 pm
Think he has the Aqualine, it's BIG.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 02, 2009, 06:43:50 am
I`m a lucky man....mate of mine from Oz is visiting his folks here and will ride the DRZ to the bash,so i will have both there! :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 02, 2009, 07:20:47 am
My rack and Hyde bash-plate
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 02, 2009, 07:21:28 am
.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2009, 08:41:38 am
Nice!!

But FFS go get that thing dirty already!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on June 02, 2009, 08:48:16 am
dayumm that clean!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 02, 2009, 08:50:33 am
:biggrin
Wont be long now!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on June 02, 2009, 10:43:53 am
I`m a lucky man....mate of mine from Oz is visiting his folks here and will ride the DRZ to the bash,so i will have both there! :ricky:

Edgy, lat hy n tank saambring van Oz af man, die goed kom mos van daar af!!!!!!  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on June 02, 2009, 10:54:17 am
big tanks are an overkill.

takes the nibleness away from the bike.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 02, 2009, 11:11:10 am
big tanks are an overkill.

takes the nibleness away from the bike.

I agree to some point. Having only 200km range can be a pit of a pain though.  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 02, 2009, 12:09:56 pm
Hes here already for a couple of weeks!
Thats why i like the Clarke,not too big!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2009, 08:38:03 pm
Clarke tank and Renazco seat  :thumleft:

(http://www.bencgibbs.com/drz/seat/IMG_1924.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on June 02, 2009, 08:59:35 pm
Ek het daai Yoshi gaan prys vandag.

RS3 R8589 op special, vol sisteem.

RS2 Slip on. R5800.

Eish!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2009, 09:05:26 pm
Ek het daai Yoshi gaan prys vandag.

RS3 R8589 op special, vol sisteem.

RS2 Slip on. R5800.

Eish!!

Wel hulle is 8589 keer mooier as n Cowley  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 02, 2009, 09:34:07 pm
Clarke tank and Renazco seat  :thumleft:

(http://www.bencgibbs.com/drz/seat/IMG_1924.jpg)
:drif: Thats what I want! Battling to find that tank! How much and where? Same goes for the seat?

Whos bike?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2009, 09:41:03 pm
Clarke tank and Renazco seat  :thumleft:

(http://www.bencgibbs.com/drz/seat/IMG_1924.jpg)
:drif: Thats what I want! Battling to find that tank! How much and where? Same goes for the seat?

Whos bike?

Found the bike on ADVrider, I had the Clarke - great tank. The transparent tanks tends to discolour after a while. Bought it three years ago from an importer in Enduro World (can't remember the name). Stay away from the IMS, it only gave me trouble. The Acerbis is also a good tank. Try Runner or Topbox.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 03, 2009, 10:21:47 am
Ek het daai Yoshi gaan prys vandag.

RS3 R8589 op special, vol sisteem.

RS2 Slip on. R5800.

Eish!!

R8.5k!!!?  :eek7:

Op Special!!!! :oscar:

Gooi hulle 'n toffie en laat een invoer. Ek het my full RS2 laat invoer met duties en alles vir minder as R4k!!! Hou in gedagte dat dit was toe $1 omtrent R6 was...

Maar jy sal nog steeds baie minder as R8k betaal as jy invoer. Dis net die wagtyd van +- 'n maand wat bietjie kak is.

As ek jy is kry ek die MRD pyp wat Eddie Sisneros van Thumpertalk ontwikkel het. Performance-wise dieslfde as die beste pyp vir 'n DRZ, wat gewoonlik die Yoshi Titanium was (Maar Yosh maak dit nie meer nie)

Gaan kyk op www.thumpertalk.com onder DRZ (een hele forum net vir die DRZ!!!) en soek vir die MRD pyp.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 03, 2009, 02:42:20 pm
(http://www.mrd-racing.com/images/ssw-drz400.jpg)

Lyk naais.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 03, 2009, 02:58:19 pm
En dit is custom made/designed en getweak om die DRZ die beste output te gee... Met realtime Dyno results as bewyse.
Dis great om die design en toets proses te volg op die offficial TTalk thread.
Min ander pype is so deeglik ontwerp en aangepas vir 'n spesifieke bike.
En dit is nog goedkoper as die groot name ook as jy dit invoer...

Sou my 1ste keuse wees as ek nou in die mark vir 'n pyp was.

En soos Sidetrack sÍ, dit lyk goed daarby...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 03, 2009, 03:02:19 pm
En dit is custom made/designed en getweak om die DRZ die beste output te gee... Met realtime Dyno results as bewyse.
Dis great om die design en toets proses te volg op die offficial TTalk thread.
Min ander pype is so deeglik ontwerp en aangepas vir 'n spesifieke bike.
En dit is nog goedkoper as die groot name ook as jy dit invoer...

Sou my 1ste keuse wees as ek nou in die mark vir 'n pyp was.

En soos Sidetrack sÍ, dit lyk goed daarby...

Nog beter stuur jou motor dat Eddie vir jou n 470 stroker bou  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 03, 2009, 03:11:20 pm
 :drif:

Ek dink dit sal goedkoper wees as ons altwee ons motors saam ship...

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on June 04, 2009, 05:24:53 am
Of somer 3 op n slag?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on June 04, 2009, 11:17:12 am
Kry mens meer discount op 4?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on June 04, 2009, 04:00:36 pm
Hi Jack

Het n 17L IMS in "natural" as iemand  belang stel. Splinternuut nog nooit gefit op n bike nie n in original packaging.

My DRZ gaan binnekort in die mark wees so ek benodig nie meer tank nie.

Baai Jack
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on June 04, 2009, 05:36:26 pm
Kontak vir Edgy, hy soek een...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Woestersous on June 04, 2009, 10:10:34 pm
Hi Jack

Het n 17L IMS in "natural" as iemand  belang stel. Splinternuut nog nooit gefit op n bike nie n in original packaging.

My DRZ gaan binnekort in die mark wees so ek benodig nie meer tank nie.

Baai Jack

Daar word big time 'n Varkť Írens gepimp :pot: Sit haar aanmekaar dat ons kan gaan ry, lus om weer Ceres/Wupperthal/Clanwilliam/Ceres te ry :ricky:

911/off
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on June 05, 2009, 08:16:12 am
Kontak vir Edgy, hy soek een...

PM sent

Cheers Newguy....

Are you not perhaps an Old Guy by now?! :pot:

"Sy kan maar se oom...Solank sy net nie se nee oom!!" :laughing4:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 16, 2009, 11:18:09 am
Want to lose a couple of kg's ?

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/jroslie/turntech1.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/jroslie/turntech6.jpg)

6.4 lbs vs 0.7 lbs
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on June 16, 2009, 04:01:54 pm
Is dit n battery?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on June 16, 2009, 04:51:50 pm
that battery is cool  :o

but i think its more for mx than ds purposes

if your in the bush hundreds of km's from anywhere i would want more oomph from a battery to not get stranded ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 16, 2009, 08:45:03 pm
Don't know the cranking power of that baby but even a stock 7ah can only give a couple of go's. I think it will be a good mod.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 16, 2009, 08:48:12 pm
Check the size of the 5ah !

(http://www.turntechbattery.com/TurnTech%20Battery/Welcome_files/moto_bat.JPG)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on June 17, 2009, 12:42:35 pm
Dan kan jy plek maak vir n tooltube!!

Het iemand al daai tu-bliss produkte probeer? Ek weet nou hoekom ek nie n KTM sal koop nie, f$##$n tubes!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 19, 2009, 04:16:04 pm
For anyone who is interested in DRZ modifications here is a good idea of what you can get out of the bike (research and tuning done by Burned from Thumpertalk) :

the tale of a 57hp 05 drz sm.NOW 60 HP 10/31/08

SEE POS #304 10/31/08 FOR UPDATES

finished the final stage yesterday on jonathans sm.

the following graphs show every change we made.

run4= brand new 0 mile stock 05 sm with corrected main jet for 5500ft

run16= added akra full ti system (it was chosen against my suggestion,because it looked cool  )

run33= 3x3 mod,dj kit with correct jetting

run50= added 39mm fcr,with correct jetting

run61= vp ultimate4 fuel test

run76= 94mm big bore (starting to have high rpm cylinder fill issues,cams needed,pipe becomes suspect)

run86= hotcams stg2 intake stg 1ex (getting better,really start to suspect the pipe isnt flowing)

run95= added 41mm fcr,with correct jetting (we were suprised at the gain,however the pipe is really choking)

run111= added yosh ti trs (proved my initial suspicions).

run147= added +5mm hotrods crank,RHC 187 cams (degreed),my own porting with over size intake valves only.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/burned-drz/JONATHANEVERYSTEPHP.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/burned-drz/JONATHANEVERYSTEPTQ.jpg)

FCR adds around 5 hp. 440 kit another 3 hp. Hotcams 2 hp. With 470 kit, RHC cams and bigger valves a whopping 11 hp jump !


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 19, 2009, 04:29:08 pm
I've read alot about Eddie Sisneros' bike - that thing is wicked and apparently there is no negative effect on reliability.
I would love to take my bike to a dyno to get an idea of hom much it pushes out.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 19, 2009, 04:31:57 pm
I've read alot about Eddie Sisneros' bike - that thing is wicked and apparently there is no negative effect on reliability.
I would love to take my bike to a dyno to get an idea of hom much it pushes out.

Me too according to those stats I should have an extra 10 hp but I'm not so sure, jetting needs work  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 19, 2009, 04:35:55 pm
I've read alot about Eddie Sisneros' bike - that thing is wicked and apparently there is no negative effect on reliability.
I would love to take my bike to a dyno to get an idea of hom much it pushes out.

Me too according to those stats I should have an extra 10 hp but I'm not so sure, jetting needs work  :-\

I think my jetting is pretty close but I'd be surprised if I'm getting close to 35hp. I'd love to feel your bike to feel the difference the carb, etc makes.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 19, 2009, 04:40:43 pm
I've read alot about Eddie Sisneros' bike - that thing is wicked and apparently there is no negative effect on reliability.
I would love to take my bike to a dyno to get an idea of hom much it pushes out.

Me too according to those stats I should have an extra 10 hp but I'm not so sure, jetting needs work  :-\

I think my jetting is pretty close but I'd be surprised if I'm getting close to 35hp. I'd love to feel your bike to feel the difference the carb, etc makes.

Must make a plan  :thumleft: When I had the Mikuni carb I spent endless nights playing with the jetting, had it close could lift the front in second. Faark those were some good times, now the bike just stands in the garage gathering dust  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 30, 2009, 10:44:22 am
I have a question regarding the gearing and I am sure some of you have played around with the Z's gearing.

The SM's stock gearing is 15/41. How much of a difference will 14/41 make?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 30, 2009, 10:55:22 am
That will take you to +- 15-44 equivalent

1T on the front equals about 3-4T on the back...

Will left your revs quite a bit at cruising speed.

Check out www.gearingcommander.com

You can input all your stuff there and it will give you all different possibilities for sprocket combo's
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on June 30, 2009, 11:03:45 am
Hi guys,
Anyone know of a DRZ going on sale. My gf is interested. Would have to be lowered! :)
Tnx
P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 30, 2009, 11:55:24 am
That will take you to +- 15-44 equivalent

1T on the front equals about 3-4T on the back...

Will left your revs quite a bit at cruising speed.

Check out www.gearingcommander.com

You can input all your stuff there and it will give you all different possibilities for sprocket combo's

Thanks Bus  :thumleft:
I've read a bit about the technical differences - very lekker link.

My bike quite comfortably (well comfortably for the engine atleast and not really the rider  ;) ) accelerates to and beyond 140km/h and I usually cruise between 110 and 120km/h so the little bit of loss in top-end is not a major concern for me at this stage. I mostly do town riding so seldom travel that fast.

What I am more interested in however is the difference in "feel". How much different wil the Z feel with that sprocket change. Will the change be really noticable or will I be wasting my time? I want more pull low down and want the front wheel to come up a little easier. I still run the Mikuni carb so the front wheel doesn't come up without quite a bit of tugging at the bars.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 30, 2009, 01:01:26 pm
14-41 will def make your front end noticeably lighter...

I found 15-44 (similar to 14-41) too much on the 17" motard wheel, (pogo stick) but I have 440 & FCR

ATM I have 15-41 (for long trip to EC bash) on the 18" dirt rear. Still lifts off the trottle in 1 & 2nd. 3rd needs a slight tug...

If you doing mostly town stuff, 14-41 on 17" should be a laugh.  >:D

I would rather stick with the 15 front and maybe experiment with a 43 or 44 rear first and see how that pans out... Anyways, keep us posted.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 30, 2009, 01:31:02 pm
14-41 will def make your front end noticeably lighter...

I found 15-44 (similar to 14-41) too much on the 17" motard wheel, (pogo stick) but I have 440 & FCR

ATM I have 15-41 (for long trip to EC bash) on the 18" dirt rear. Still lifts off the trottle in 1 & 2nd. 3rd needs a slight tug...

If you doing mostly town stuff, 14-41 on 17" should be a laugh.  >:D

I would rather stick with the 15 front and maybe experiment with a 43 or 44 rear first and see how that pans out... Anyways, keep us posted.

 :thumleft:

My jettings seems pretty spot on as the bike really runs well. I have no other DRZ to compare it to so I'm doing some guessing. The front does not lift, not even in 1st. It does become very light but won't go up without a firm tug. I am running the stock carb with 3x3 mod and carb solenoid and PAIR valve removed. Perhaps my jetting is not as spot on as I initially thought.  ???

I'm going to try and get around to fitting the 14 in front and see how different it runs.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 30, 2009, 01:39:48 pm
14-41 will def make your front end noticeably lighter...

I found 15-44 (similar to 14-41) too much on the 17" motard wheel, (pogo stick) but I have 440 & FCR

ATM I have 15-41 (for long trip to EC bash) on the 18" dirt rear. Still lifts off the trottle in 1 & 2nd. 3rd needs a slight tug...

If you doing mostly town stuff, 14-41 on 17" should be a laugh.  >:D

I would rather stick with the 15 front and maybe experiment with a 43 or 44 rear first and see how that pans out... Anyways, keep us posted.

 :thumleft:

My jettings seems pretty spot on as the bike really runs well. I have no other DRZ to compare it to so I'm doing some guessing. The front does not lift, not even in 1st. It does become very light but won't go up without a firm tug. I am running the stock carb with 3x3 mod and carb solenoid and PAIR valve removed. Perhaps my jetting is not as spot on as I initially thought.  ???

I'm going to try and get around to fitting the 14 in front and see how different it runs.

15/44 is a good combination, with that and a Mikuni 1st was no problem to lift. I want to try15/47 with a 440  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 01, 2009, 08:20:41 am
Wat sal die beste vir my wees? Ek wil die revs bietjie drop vir 700km dag trippies, maar hy moet nog genoeg grunt he vir grondpad.

Cruising speed so 120km/h wees?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2009, 08:54:35 am
Wat sal die beste vir my wees? Ek wil die revs bietjie drop vir 700km dag trippies, maar hy moet nog genoeg grunt he vir grondpad.

Cruising speed so 120km/h wees?

Jy het mos 'n E model so joune het in elke geval plenty grunt. As jy gemaklik 120km/h wil cruise dink ek jy sal die gearing moet maak soos wat die SM standaard is of ten minste soos die S. Die E se gearing is standaard 14/47 sover ek weet.  14/44 sal seker 'n verskil maak maar ek glonie dat jy teen 120km/h sal kan cruise nie. Miskien sal iets soos 15/44 setup jou die beste balans gee.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 01, 2009, 08:55:01 am
The front does not lift, not even in 1st.

That doesn't seem right. Your hp output is high enough, the throttle response not so good??

Die E se gearing is standaard 14/47 sover ek weet.  14/44 sal seker 'n verskil maak maar ek glonie dat jy teen 120km/h sal kan cruise nie. Miskien sal iets soos 15/44 setup jou die beste balans gee.

Ek hardloop 15:43 op my E, werk baie lekker. Kan altyd net omruil na die 14 as ek biejte meer wil speel...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 01, 2009, 08:59:42 am
Hy hardloop die k@k carb, nie die FCR nie. Dis dalk hoekom
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 01, 2009, 09:00:49 am
Hy hardloop die k@k carb, nie die FCR nie. Dis dalk hoekom

Dis nou nie nodig om so van sy bike te praat nie, ons is almal mos vriende...  :peepwall:      :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2009, 09:12:24 am
Hy hardloop die k@k carb, nie die FCR nie. Dis dalk hoekom

Ag nee sies man dis nie 'n k@k carb nie dis netnie 'n FCR ie maar 'n BSR.  :imaposer:

Die cams, etc verskil ook op die E so dis nie net die carb wat die verskil maak nie. Die SM se gearing is standaard vir hoer spoed so selfs die S se standaard gearing van 15/44 i.p.v die SM se standaard gearing van 15/41 soos wat die ander voorgestel het behoort die voorwiel vanself te laat opkom.

EK tel gou vanmiddag die 14 voorste een op en hoop om hom gou vandag te fit. Sal julle laat weet watse verskil dit maak.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 01, 2009, 11:32:30 am
Hy hardloop die k@k carb, nie die FCR nie. Dis dalk hoekom

Ag nee sies man dis nie 'n k@k carb nie dis netnie 'n FCR ie maar 'n BSR.  :imaposer:

Die cams, etc verskil ook op die E so dis nie net die carb wat die verskil maak nie. Die SM se gearing is standaard vir hoer spoed so selfs die S se standaard gearing van 15/44 i.p.v die SM se standaard gearing van 15/41 soos wat die ander voorgestel het behoort die voorwiel vanself te laat opkom.

EK tel gou vanmiddag die 14 voorste een op en hoop om hom gou vandag te fit. Sal julle laat weet watse verskil dit maak.

My Hotcam het nie veel off idle krag gegee nie maar hier na 4000 rpm kon jy n klein skop voel.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2009, 11:55:50 am
Hy hardloop die k@k carb, nie die FCR nie. Dis dalk hoekom

Ag nee sies man dis nie 'n k@k carb nie dis netnie 'n FCR ie maar 'n BSR.  :imaposer:

Die cams, etc verskil ook op die E so dis nie net die carb wat die verskil maak nie. Die SM se gearing is standaard vir hoer spoed so selfs die S se standaard gearing van 15/44 i.p.v die SM se standaard gearing van 15/41 soos wat die ander voorgestel het behoort die voorwiel vanself te laat opkom.

EK tel gou vanmiddag die 14 voorste een op en hoop om hom gou vandag te fit. Sal julle laat weet watse verskil dit maak.

My Hotcam het nie veel off idle krag gegee nie maar hier na 4000 rpm kon jy n klein skop voel.

Yes, wat ek bedoel is die hele klomp klein verskille maak groot verskil op die ou einde en nie net die carb nie. Die carb, cams, beter exhaust, groter header pyp, etc.

Ek wil graag steeds voel hoe voel jou bike.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on July 01, 2009, 12:05:50 pm
Wat jou opie oomblik die meeste terughou is die carb en die header pyp...

Ek sou eerste 'n powerbomb of E-model header kry en spaar vir die carb. Of jy kan soek vir 'n write-off WR/YZ 400/426, hulle het ook die lekker carb...

Ek dink nie die cams is die moeite werd vir die moola nie? Of hoe ST?

Ek weet jy het eers die inlet hotcam gehad, en later die ex laat doen.

Watse verskil het die ex gemaak?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 01, 2009, 12:47:31 pm
Wat jou opie oomblik die meeste terughou is die carb en die header pyp...

Ek sou eerste 'n powerbomb of E-model header kry en spaar vir die carb. Of jy kan soek vir 'n write-off WR/YZ 400/426, hulle het ook die lekker carb...

Ek dink nie die cams is die moeite werd vir die moola nie? Of hoe ST?

Ek weet jy het eers die inlet hotcam gehad, en later die ex laat doen.

Watse verskil het die ex gemaak?

Defnitief die cams as n paar insit werk goed saam, net een is a waste. Maar ek moet sÍ die carb is n beter mod as n pyp, cams en jetting saam. Dit maak n moerse verskil. Ek het n FCR van CRF op, werk lekker.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 01, 2009, 01:53:01 pm
Bus is die E se header pyp waar hy by die end-pyp bymekaarkom dieselfde dimensies as die SM/S pyp?

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 01, 2009, 01:56:57 pm
Die E pyp se pyp diameter is grooter.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on July 01, 2009, 03:07:50 pm
Die E pyp se pyp diameter is grooter.

Jip, jy sal bietjie surgery moet doen om dit te maak pas...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 01, 2009, 03:43:34 pm
Groter pyp lyk ook beter  :biggrin: Check the MRD pipe's header, it's massive !
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 01, 2009, 03:50:17 pm
I got me a FMF slip-on arriving on Saturday! :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 01, 2009, 04:01:53 pm
I got me a FMF slip-on arriving on Saturday! :mwink:

E - you ever managed to get yourself a tank? I told stroke her to contact you, he was selling a 17liter...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 01, 2009, 04:48:41 pm
I got me a FMF slip-on arriving on Saturday! :mwink:

FMF Q ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 01, 2009, 06:15:34 pm
I got me a FMF slip-on arriving on Saturday! :mwink:

E - you ever managed to get yourself a tank? I told stroke her to contact you, he was selling a 17liter...
He did,thanks-but I had already ordered a new Clarke from Wolweseun!
Still waiting......
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 01, 2009, 06:17:45 pm
I got me a FMF slip-on arriving on Saturday! :mwink:

FMF Q ?
Good point....not sure ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on July 05, 2009, 02:03:33 pm
Guys, 32k for a 2001 DRZ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 05, 2009, 03:24:48 pm
If its in good nick,sounds sweet!
Mileage?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on July 05, 2009, 03:29:30 pm
Milage is not readily available...does it make that much difference? The original owner apparently did mostly commuting & Stroke Her is a maniac >:D But he knows machinery & respect for equipment. I'm talking myself into this am i not :biggrin: The bike has a good feeling about it...its just the price thing ::) :) The gf in a quandry ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 05, 2009, 06:01:57 pm
Fitted the FMF today,sounds awesome!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 05, 2009, 06:17:09 pm
Looking good Edgy, always liked the FMF's.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on July 05, 2009, 06:23:35 pm
I heard a rumour that there was a DRZ pushing 45hp on the kilarney track today... Giving some 1200's a good go...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 06, 2009, 07:05:24 am
Guys, 32k for a 2001 DRZ?
Mmm not exactly a bargain but fair price I think.

There is a HUGE bargain DRZ at my local Aprilia Dealer, pity it is in Gauteng - 2008 DRZ E model 8 000km, ProTaper bars, Circuit full hand savers, braided brake lines, Edge taillight - R35K. If anyone was looking for a bargain DRZ this is it!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 06, 2009, 07:06:39 am
Those are excellent Edgy - they really sound awesome!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 06, 2009, 07:26:41 am
Those are excellent Edgy - they really sound awesome!
Must I remove the spark arrestor/screen goodie?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 06, 2009, 07:54:29 am
Those are excellent Edgy - they really sound awesome!
Must I remove the spark arrestor/screen goodie?

Only if you want to burn down forests  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 06, 2009, 07:59:03 am
Those are excellent Edgy - they really sound awesome!
Must I remove the spark arrestor/screen goodie?

I'd wait for the summer and then remove it yes  :D
The spark arrestor does not make a real big difference in power or sound so it should be fine to leave it in.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 06, 2009, 08:09:00 am
On Friday I fitted my 14 front sprocket. I makes a very pleasant difference in town.
After servicing the bike again on Saturday morning I took it out on the highway to feel the difference the sprocket makes and it easily pulled up to 130km/h so I'm happy with that as I won't be travelling faster than that. I did not test the top speed but will give that a shot with the GPS sometime soon.

What I really like is that after getting off the highway I unpleasantly surprised a Multistrada Dark when he could not get away from me between traffic lights  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 06, 2009, 09:34:14 am
I heard a rumour that there was a DRZ pushing 45hp on the kilarney track today... Giving some 1200's a good go...

Dit sal seker bus wees. Ek weet sy bike was Sarredag op die dyno... en sondag op die track  ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: tsa on July 06, 2009, 09:45:02 am
Guys, 32k for a 2001 DRZ?
Mmm not exactly a bargain but fair price I think.

There is a HUGE bargain DRZ at my local Aprilia Dealer, pity it is in Gauteng - 2008 DRZ E model 8 000km, ProTaper bars, Circuit full hand savers, braided brake lines, Edge taillight - R35K. If anyone was looking for a bargain DRZ this is it!
Where is the dealer?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 06, 2009, 09:57:42 am
Guys, 32k for a 2001 DRZ?
Mmm not exactly a bargain but fair price I think.

There is a HUGE bargain DRZ at my local Aprilia Dealer, pity it is in Gauteng - 2008 DRZ E model 8 000km, ProTaper bars, Circuit full hand savers, braided brake lines, Edge taillight - R35K. If anyone was looking for a bargain DRZ this is it!
Where is the dealer?

Centurion - Ultimate Performance. Bike was still there last week. Superb condition. From the looks of it it never saw any dirt and it seems the guy had a little fall with it as the one hand guard is scrathed as well as the right foot peg. No scrathes to plastic or anything. I can pop by during lunch to check if it is still there if you're interested.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on July 07, 2009, 08:56:55 am
Milage is not readily available...does it make that much difference? The original owner apparently did mostly commuting & Stroke Her is a maniac >:D But he knows machinery & respect for equipment. I'm talking myself into this am i not :biggrin: The bike has a good feeling about it...its just the price thing ::) :) The gf in a quandry ;)

2004 MODEL !!! PAY ATTENTION MR PETE!!! :pot: :deal:

MY MANIAC BEHAVIOUR IS SAVED FOR THINGS WITHOUT VALVES...LIKE WOMEN AND 2 STROKE MX BIKES :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on July 10, 2009, 11:09:40 am
Fellow lovers of yellow dirtbikes...I need your help.

Looking for a seatcover for my DRZ.

Any assistance would be appreciated. :thumleft:

Thank you.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 10, 2009, 11:15:30 am
Fellow lovers of yellow dirtbikes...I need your help.

Looking for a seatcover for my DRZ.

Any assistance would be appreciated. :thumleft:

Thank you.

Are you lookign for one of those "grippy" covers or has the seat's original cover been damaged?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on July 10, 2009, 02:38:16 pm
The ori vagi nal cover had a smallish tear/hole in it. I built it up with additional foam and padded it up a bit for long range use. Covered it with vynil but looked a bit pooratech. Now I have to sell the bike so I removed the additional foam and just need to cover it nicely...gripper or std does not matter.

Unfortunately the old cover got misplaced along the way :xxbah:

Any help would be great...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 15, 2009, 02:24:40 pm
Just fitted the Clarke,quick and easy! Took half an hour! Man these smaller machines are a lot easier to fiddle with than the big Katie-m! Sommer installed a new plug as well!
Really loving this little bike!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on July 16, 2009, 07:34:03 am
That looks flippin awesome  :thumleft:


PS: Time to file down the sharp edge on the gear lever.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on July 16, 2009, 08:02:27 am
What Clarke is that Edgy?

Seems smaller than mine...?

Mine is 3.9 Gallon ~ +-17L...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on July 16, 2009, 08:09:41 am
Think that is the 3.2, the 3.9 is a bit off a ball buster  :biggrin: But I liked it alot, perfect fit and strong better than the IMS.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on July 16, 2009, 08:14:41 am
Jirre broer, hoe groot is jou balle? :laughing7:

Mine looks similar, it just has the extra pumpkin/hump at the top...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 16, 2009, 12:22:39 pm
Dont know the size yet ??? But definatly not 17l!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on July 17, 2009, 12:45:22 pm
Anybody that knows if we one can get Dunlop D605 in SA. I saw on a forum pics of it (http://www.drzrides.com/?page_id=42) they look to be a good choice for 50/50 riding
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 17, 2009, 03:20:42 pm
Edgy that bike is looking schweet like a lemon...

If its not yellow, its an orange
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 18, 2009, 02:50:11 am
Thanks guys :thumleft:
Now that the pipe is on,what changes need to be done regarding the jetting?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on July 18, 2009, 11:47:49 am
Best to get it on a dyno and let them sort it for you.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 18, 2009, 01:26:01 pm
Thanks guys :thumleft:
Now that the pipe is on,what changes need to be done regarding the jetting?

Thanx to that one pic of yours I could get my ProTaper bars right. Battled with the throttle cables. Saw the pic of yours where you changed it to the under side and the simpleness of it showed me that sometimes you want to be a rocket science (which I'm never successful at), whilst the solution is so simple.

Thanx Edgy
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on July 18, 2009, 03:26:41 pm
Sweet! :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 27, 2009, 07:41:51 pm
Nothing that you'se don't know, but still make an interesting read!

http://www.paochow.com/DRZguide/DRZguide.php
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on August 03, 2009, 03:10:40 am
Fitted my new Edge tail-light last week with Oxford LED flickers,what a difference! Thanks Wolweseun!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on August 03, 2009, 07:37:33 am
Nothing that you'se don't know, but still make an interesting read!

http://www.paochow.com/DRZguide/DRZguide.php

The guy writes pretty easy to read an informative but he is a bit of an idiot.
From what he said: "If you want a light bike, look elsewhere." and then somewhere how delighted he was with the KTM 525 - there is a less than 6 kg difference between the two.  ::)
He claims you should rather buy something like the KTM 525 because of various reaseons and then he proceeds to mentioning the "wrong" things on the DR-Z and the mods he did. One such "problem" is the small fuel tank on the DR-Z - Are you fucking kidding me, did this guy actually ride a 525 with its enormous 8.5l tank. Anyway he does mentioning alot of the modable things on the DR-Z but he only gives partial information.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on August 03, 2009, 08:30:27 am
So Edgy... You gonna slap an "Edgy" sticker on your Edge taillight...? :laughing7:

Amazing how it transforms the look of the bike, eh?

Lekker!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 03, 2009, 12:40:27 pm
Fitted my new Edge tail-light last week with Oxford LED flickers,what a difference! Thanks Wolweseun!

Gee meer info. Dit lyk damn smart!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on August 03, 2009, 01:54:10 pm
Fitted my new Edge tail-light last week with Oxford LED flickers,what a difference! Thanks Wolweseun!

Gee meer info. Dit lyk damn smart!

Wolweseun!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 03, 2009, 03:09:02 pm
There are some universal options too.
1. My current tail light - polisport, with LED motrix indicators
2. my previous - circuit

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on August 03, 2009, 03:10:06 pm
I wanna do the same to the SE,where to start?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 03, 2009, 04:16:34 pm
Nee wat, daai skrapse gatjie van Polisport en Edgy lyk baie beter!!! Soos n bikini en n stringetjie. Ek weet watter een ek sal kies!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on August 03, 2009, 06:49:02 pm
Looking good Edgy !
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on August 03, 2009, 07:27:41 pm
Looking good Edgy !
:thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on August 03, 2009, 07:31:49 pm
Sorry to intrude on your thread but fark i love the DRZ :drif: :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Sir Rat on August 03, 2009, 07:33:22 pm
Sorry to intrude on your thread but fark i love the DRZ :drif: :ricky:

Ek ok my broe ek ok!!!  :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 03, 2009, 08:19:23 pm
Sorry to intrude on your thread but fark i love the DRZ :drif: :ricky:
Ek ok my broe ek ok!!!  :drif: :drif:

Dont see why. It really handles like sh!t upside down...

(http://www.leelikesbikes.com/wp-content/112906drzpit.jpg)

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Sir Rat on August 03, 2009, 08:23:36 pm
Interesting approach.  :eek7: :o
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on August 03, 2009, 08:24:52 pm
His exit must have been phenominal....on a stretcher :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on August 11, 2009, 01:58:07 pm
I've joined the DRZ400 club, what an awesome D/S. 2005 model E.

Mine rides like a bomb starts easy but doesn't idle lekker. The revs vary while idling.
Coming to a stop the revs stay high and slowly drops to idle, then climbs again and lowers without
touching the throttle.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Sir Rat on August 11, 2009, 04:31:17 pm
I am testing the grounds. Any dogs that will let me ride a DRZ? I think I need a upgrade from my F800GS!!  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on August 11, 2009, 04:37:42 pm
Sorry Herms, Im not the most technically minded of okes, but it seems you have a carb issue... leaking inlet rubber? dirty jets? etc... Maybe Runner or someone else might be able to assist properly...

Rovrat, jy is welkom om myne te ry. Ons moes dit eintlik op die Noob ride gedoen het, maar nou ja...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 11, 2009, 04:53:34 pm
Rovrat, jy is welkom om myne te ry. Ons moes dit eintlik op die Noob ride gedoen het, maar nou ja...

Onthou net, Bus sn is ge-super tjoon >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Sir Rat on August 11, 2009, 05:18:28 pm
Rovrat, jy is welkom om myne te ry. Ons moes dit eintlik op die Noob ride gedoen het, maar nou ja...

Onthou net, Bus sn is ge-super tjoon >:D


Ek weet!! Dis wat dit eers lekke sal maak. Hy sal net al sy secrets vir my moet deel.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 11, 2009, 07:05:41 pm
Rovrat, jy is welkom om myne te ry. Ons moes dit eintlik op die Noob ride gedoen het, maar nou ja...

Onthou net, Bus sn is ge-super tjoon >:D


Hy sal dit met ons almal moet deel!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on August 12, 2009, 07:38:13 am
I've joined the DRZ400 club, what an awesome D/S. 2005 model E.

Mine rides like a bomb starts easy but doesn't idle lekker. The revs vary while idling.
Coming to a stop the revs stay high and slowly drops to idle, then climbs again and lowers without
touching the throttle.

Any ideas?

You have either a lean pilot circuit or an air leak, probably the pilot circuit, richen the air screw
by turning it out. Start with a half a turn at a time, should sort it!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 12, 2009, 10:40:31 am
Wrench, Flat spot on the highveld? With the 3x3 snorkel mod? What would sort that out?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on August 12, 2009, 10:57:39 am
LX, did you re-jet accordingly after doing 3x3 mod?

If not, thats the problem.

If you did, then Wrench will know more...

You probably need a lekker dyno tune...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on August 12, 2009, 01:55:05 pm
Wrench, Flat spot on the highveld? With the 3x3 snorkel mod? What would sort that out?

It is hard to say but either too small pilot jet but i am thinking too large main jet. Ride the bike around to warm it up properly. Remove the airbox door and see if it rides better. I fit does your mai jet is too large. Give it a shot and let us know.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Malibu on August 12, 2009, 08:18:52 pm
I am testing the grounds. Any dogs that will let me ride a DRZ? I think I need a upgrade from my F800GS!!  :peepwall:

Only do it if you are really ready to have fun!   >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Woestersous on August 12, 2009, 09:55:32 pm
I am testing the grounds. Any dogs that will let me ride a DRZ? I think I need a upgrade from my F800GS!!  :peepwall:

Only do it if you are really ready to have fun!   >:D

PM Stroke Her, his DRZ is for sale, he's selling the brand new long rage tank as we speak, bike has a few other mods, he's in Durbanville :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on August 12, 2009, 10:41:31 pm
Yip, the tank is gone, I took the 17l IMS from Stroke Her.

I got my DRZ over the weekend. I see the airbox is open at the top. Bike idles crappy to say the least.

Does anybody have the square snorkel section that covers the top of the airbox? I'd like to go back to standard.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on August 13, 2009, 06:46:58 am
Yip, the tank is gone, I took the 17l IMS from Stroke Her.

I got my DRZ over the weekend. I see the airbox is open at the top. Bike idles crappy to say the least.

Does anybody have the square snorkel section that covers the top of the airbox? I'd like to go back to standard.

If it is an E model it would never have had the snorkel to begin with. Just fix the jetting and it will runn like a bomb.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on August 13, 2009, 07:50:41 am
Yip, the tank is gone, I took the 17l IMS from Stroke Her.

I got my DRZ over the weekend. I see the airbox is open at the top. Bike idles crappy to say the least.

Does anybody have the square snorkel section that covers the top of the airbox? I'd like to go back to standard.

If it is an E model it would never have had the snorkel to begin with. Just fix the jetting and it will runn like a bomb.  :thumleft:

Jip, it is an E.

So that huge square opening in the airbox under the seat is Std......wow!
Cool, nou I just have to sort out the jetting. How would I know if its right or wrong. I live at the coast(PE),
what must I do or check? IS there a number on the jet?

Thanks guys for the help!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on August 13, 2009, 08:10:49 am
Herms, kan jy vir ons 'n foto van die carb en die airbox gat stuur? Ook, het jy 'n aftermarket pyp? Full of slip-on?

As jy die nuwer FCR MX carb het, kan ek jou help, maar as jy die ouer "slant-body" FCR het, sal Wrench of Newguy vir jou hulle jetting specs kan gee.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on August 13, 2009, 08:14:58 am
Yip, the tank is gone, I took the 17l IMS from Stroke Her.

I got my DRZ over the weekend. I see the airbox is open at the top. Bike idles crappy to say the least.

Does anybody have the square snorkel section that covers the top of the airbox? I'd like to go back to standard.

If it is an E model it would never have had the snorkel to begin with. Just fix the jetting and it will runn like a bomb.  :thumleft:

Jip, it is an E.

So that huge square opening in the airbox under the seat is Std......wow!
Cool, nou I just have to sort out the jetting. How would I know if its right or wrong. I live at the coast(PE),
what must I do or check? IS there a number on the jet?

Thanks guys for the help!

It is possible that the hole in your airbox has been enlarged but it should not be an issue. The standard is a 3x3 inch hole in the top of the airbox. If it is larger you can tape off the hole to make it a little smaller just to test. The jets usually have numbers stamped/engraved on the back(depending on your eyesight  ;) )
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on August 13, 2009, 08:21:53 am
Herms, kan jy vir ons 'n foto van die carb en die airbox gat stuur? Ook, het jy 'n aftermarket pyp? Full of slip-on?

As jy die nuwer FCR MX carb het, kan ek jou help, maar as jy die ouer "slant-body" FCR het, sal Wrench of Newguy vir jou hulle jetting specs kan gee.

Sal so maak vanaand, thanks!!


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on August 13, 2009, 08:25:08 am
Wrench, Flat spot on the highveld? With the 3x3 snorkel mod? What would sort that out?

DRZ's with stock jetting at the coast, we have found to be quite rich. There are a few things
to consider about being 2000m above sea level.

1. Higher altitude = less air.
2. Lower baro pressure = less density.
3. Lower fuel grade.

Personally I would start with 5 sizes richer on the main, needle position 1 notch richer than stock
and definately get a bigger accelerator pump bowl. Note: this is a base setting, you may need to go
in the opposite direction.

Needle poistion and taper versus pilot jet size and main jet size could become tricky as the three
always overlaps. Meaning, the pilot jet fuels the primary section of the needle and main takes over
the secondary, in other words changing the main,would affect the needle in terms of richness or leaness
as would the pilot.

Most guys tend to go for a rich set up when the exhaust and airbox are derestricted which is a rule of
thumb, but at times could be dangerously rich, causing cyl. washing. If you don't feel confident doing
this or feel it's too much las, take to someone with a decent dyno set up (Freez).    

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 14, 2009, 06:30:33 pm
I think I'll go to Freez, what you've said above is above my fire place!  :mwink: I see it in my mind and think what a big job it must be! Can live with that flat spot untill I can get to Freez!  ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on August 21, 2009, 07:38:22 am
Ok, I just loosend the carb, moved it around a bit and re-tightned the clamps.
Bike Idle now, so I guess it was just an air leak. Thanks for the advice  :thumleft:

I got my IMS tank yesterday from Stroke Her, so I be fitting my tank and
relocating the ignition so that I can fit my bar risers.... maybe one or two other bits to.

I load some pics when I'm done.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 21, 2009, 12:19:12 pm
Yes pls, the tank gives stature to the bike, but Sidetrack warned me against the one with the rad shrouds forming part of the tank. When you go down the shrouds parts take a beating, just always check that the tank do not leak, that part protecting the rads!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 14, 2009, 08:30:00 am
For those who missed it I fitted a Dakar screen that I got from RooiPhilip to the DRZ. Looks and works very well  :thumleft:
Yes I know I'm selling it but I till love the bike and enjoy doing stuff to it.  :'(

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 14, 2009, 09:57:23 am
oooooh nice  to know nice to know :D

Will keep my eye out for a dakar screen now
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 25, 2009, 12:40:54 pm
So out of interest what kind of fuel consumption are you gus getting?

unless I worked something out wrong I am getting like 16 km/l  :eek7:

I have been riding it like a WOT junkie but expected it to be a lil better than that  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 25, 2009, 06:31:17 pm
I got 102km from the standard tank yesterday. . .eek!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on September 25, 2009, 06:39:33 pm
16km/l sounds good!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 25, 2009, 06:48:15 pm
16km/l sounds good!

serious?

I got 102km from the standard tank yesterday. . .eek!

naw dude dome thing is wrong there, I get over 100 before hitting reserve and mines a 450
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on September 25, 2009, 08:02:55 pm
I managed 200 km on the stock tank at around 25 km/l.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 26, 2009, 08:46:34 am
Nah i was just riding like a idjit,,got about 25kml yesterday
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: eikeboom on September 26, 2009, 09:25:29 am
Nah i was just riding like a idjit,,got about 25kml yesterday

So die nuus is uit - jy ry nou 'n Z!  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 26, 2009, 11:05:48 am
Nah i was just riding like a idjit,,got about 25kml yesterday

So die nuus is uit - jy ry nou 'n Z!  :ricky:


So what kinda of a differance in terms of riding are we talking here?

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 26, 2009, 11:19:54 am
balls to the wall... wrist?! dangling in the air maybe?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 26, 2009, 11:59:31 am
balls to the wall... wrist?! dangling in the air maybe?

hurmf maybe I will ride one tank gently and see
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 26, 2009, 04:36:18 pm
Couple of questions:
Where can i buy a sub frame?how much?
At what engine temp does it get dangerous for the motor? Same for revs?
How do i know if i have the fcr carb?
Anyone here done the taffy mod?
How much is a set of plastics in sa? Who can supply local? Can get a full acerbis kit for $124
Anyone using the 4gl acerbis tank?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 26, 2009, 04:49:45 pm
Couple of questions:
Where can i buy a sub frame?how much? - Suzuki South
At what engine temp does it get dangerous for the motor? Same for revs?
How do i know if i have the fcr carb? Stick your finger into the carb intake - Flat Slide- you have the FCR
Anyone here done the taffy mod?
How much is a set of plastics in sa? Who can supply local? Can get a full acerbis kit for $124 - Speak to Advmx... sure he can sort something out.
Anyone using the 4gl acerbis tank?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 26, 2009, 04:50:49 pm
Jy moes maar eintlik n 400S gekoop het. Lower Comp motor met al die metaal in die regte plekke.

Los die Subframe en kry soft luggage.

124$ is cheap vir full set plastics.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 27, 2009, 08:50:35 am
Couple of questions:
Where can i buy a sub frame?how much?
At what engine temp does it get dangerous for the motor? Same for revs?
How do i know if i have the fcr carb?
Anyone here done the taffy mod?
How much is a set of plastics in sa? Who can supply local? Can get a full acerbis kit for $124
Anyone using the 4gl acerbis tank?

The internet is you friend Etienne..... >:D....especially Thumpertalk....

Subframe - don't know.
Doesn't have a temp guage so don't know. No problems to date. Revs to 10k I think.
Carb will have FCR on it.
Agents very expensive - Acerbis kit the way to go. Import directly.
Yes.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 27, 2009, 09:08:30 am
Couple of questions:
Where can i buy a sub frame?how much?
At what engine temp does it get dangerous for the motor? Same for revs?
How do i know if i have the fcr carb?
Anyone here done the taffy mod?
How much is a set of plastics in sa? Who can supply local? Can get a full acerbis kit for $124
Anyone using the 4gl acerbis tank?

The internet is you friend Etienne..... >:D....especially Thumpertalk....

Subframe - don't know.
Doesn't have a temp guage so don't know. No problems to date. Revs to 10k I think.
Carb will have FCR on it.
Agents very expensive - Acerbis kit the way to go. Import directly.
Yes.

Yeh it revs to 10k. The Revbox pushes that to 11k  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 11:48:10 am
My z has zero popping on deccelleration is there a way to make it pop a lil bit?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 27, 2009, 01:21:28 pm
What for?
If it does, the bike is running a bit lean - not a good thing
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 01:25:45 pm
All the other Zees i know about do it...its kinda cool
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 27, 2009, 02:59:39 pm
All the other Zees i know about do it...its kinda cool

mine does if I de accell fast, thinking it needs a tune up though
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 03:21:55 pm
LGF and Edgy..do your bikes have subframes?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 27, 2009, 03:48:06 pm
EDRZ... as far as I know... your bike made 35hp on the dyno and hyltons made 40hp. Your bikes are basically the same... I suggest you have it tuned. 5hp op daai bike is dag en nag verskil.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 03:49:42 pm
Yep, my dyno graph se 35hp. Dit het nou die quickshot en pyp by. Wil die head ens laat port by Andy en dan laat tune.
Wat kos so tune jobbie min of meer?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 27, 2009, 03:53:46 pm
seker so R400 uur of so se labor. Hulle moet basies net die bike rejet.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 27, 2009, 04:49:04 pm
any idea what superbike solutions charges for a full tuneup?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 04:50:58 pm
seker so R400 uur of so se labor. Hulle moet basies net die bike rejet.

Beteken dit hulle moet nuwe jets insit? Of net aan dit stel?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 27, 2009, 04:55:01 pm
partykeer new jets...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 04:55:46 pm
Hmm...Wel op die oomblik het die bike nog genoeg krag vir my, so dis seker nie nodig nie
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 27, 2009, 05:08:52 pm
maar dit sal jou popping uitsort. Om lean te run maak die bike meer hitte. Meer hitte op die piston beteken n gaatjie kan ontstaan.

Vat die bike in een of ander tyd. Check die tuning, valves en timing chain ... :) of vra vir Lecappie...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 27, 2009, 05:40:28 pm
16km/l klink redelik rof - dis wat ek kry as ek 130km/h ry. Ek het nie FCR carb nie maar myne is gejet vir die airbox en pyp mods. Ek ry balls-to-the-wall permanent en average so 20km/l. As jou pyp heeltemal oop is sal hy pop al is hy nie lean nie. As hy reg is en hy pop nie hoor jy dit heelwaarskynlik netnie. Myne is te ryk en pop steeds - baie minder as voorheen maar 'very noticable'. As jy stock pyp op het kan jy die spark arrestor uithaal en luister of jy verskil hoor.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on September 27, 2009, 07:22:29 pm
Naam is gefix, kan julle nie sien nie!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 07:34:25 pm
Wat kos 'n dipstick? DIe thread op myne is gecross
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 08:00:10 pm
Where can one order a sticker kit?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 27, 2009, 08:01:49 pm
Where can one order a sticker kit?

hurmf remind me tomorrow to ftp that sticker kit template some where for u
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 08:03:22 pm
Where can one order a sticker kit?

hurmf remind me tomorrow to ftp that sticker kit template some where for u

I got a template from BUS, but those are just the tank shroud ones, im looking for tank shrouds, front forks, tail set and the side cover things
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 27, 2009, 08:06:51 pm
Where can one order a sticker kit?

hurmf remind me tomorrow to ftp that sticker kit template some where for u

I got a template from BUS, but those are just the tank shroud ones, im looking for tank shrouds, front forks, tail set and the side cover things

think I have them all
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 27, 2009, 08:07:32 pm
Cool, wots ftp?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 27, 2009, 09:41:06 pm
Cool, wots ftp?

file transfer protocol.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on September 28, 2009, 09:16:20 am
Cool, wots ftp?

file transfer protocol.

Come on Steve, what does it mean? File Transfer I understand, but what does the Protocol means?  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 28, 2009, 09:35:07 am
File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is a standard network protocol used to exchange and manipulate files over an Internet Protocol computer network, such as the Internet. FTP is built on a client-server architecture and utilizes separate control and data connections between the client and server applications. Client applications were originally interactive command-line tools with a standardized command syntax, but graphical user interfaces have been developed for all desktop operating systems in use today. FTP is also often used as an application component to automatically transfer files for program internal functions. FTP can be used with user-based password authentication or with anonymous user access. The Trivial File Transfer Protocol (TFTP) is a similar, but simplified, not interoperable, and unauthenticated version of FTP.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 11:17:09 am
Lrp or unleaded?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 28, 2009, 11:28:08 am
unleaded
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on September 28, 2009, 11:57:15 am
File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is a standard network protocol used to exchange and manipulate files over an Internet Protocol computer network, such as the Internet. FTP is built on a client-server architecture and utilizes separate control and data connections between the client and server applications. Client applications were originally interactive command-line tools with a standardized command syntax, but graphical user interfaces have been developed for all desktop operating systems in use today. FTP is also often used as an application component to automatically transfer files for program internal functions. FTP can be used with user-based password authentication or with anonymous user access. The Trivial File Transfer Protocol (TFTP) is a similar, but simplified, not interoperable, and unauthenticated version of FTP.

Sorry, I'm BBC (Born before computers  :thumleft:)

Still do not have the foggiest!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 06:56:02 pm
Ok so this is my bike, havent officially posted what's what:

'05 DRZ 400 E
Pro Taper bar
Machine billet risers
Quick shot carb accelerator thing
Scorch pipe (too loud) going to take it in this week to be made quiter
Stone deflectors
Home made orange headligth cover
Added a mirror clamp and mirror
3x3mod done
Rejetted and tuned

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00005Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 28, 2009, 07:01:49 pm
Ok so this is my bike, havent officially posted what's what:

'05 DRZ 400 E
Pro Taper bar
Machine billet risers
Quick shot carb accelerator thing
Scorch pipe (too loud) going to take it in this week to be made quiter
Stone deflectors
Home made orange headligth cover
Added a mirror clamp and mirror
3x3mod done
Rejetted and tuned

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00005Medium.jpg)

Uncle Sinclair gaan daai fiets afvat :(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 07:05:37 pm
Why?...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 28, 2009, 07:11:17 pm
Why?...

Omdat jou laaisens se jy mag net ry tot op n 125cc.

Unless ons 125 stiekers gaan maak :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 28, 2009, 09:03:42 pm
just did an oil change and air filter clean, oh boy this drz is simple as slat compaired to the 990  :thumleft:

how often are you meant to check the clearances?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 09:30:21 pm
3in1 taillight for your Z

Has white LED's that shine on the plate, red brake light, and red taillight LED's
Fits under the tip of the rear fender puuurfectly!
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_2861Medium.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_2869Medium.jpg)
R200
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on September 28, 2009, 10:22:38 pm
Jy het vergeet om daai moerse spieeltjie onder jou mods lys te sit  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 10:26:44 pm
Jy het vergeet om daai moerse spieeltjie onder jou mods lys te sit  :biggrin:

Ssshhhhhsss! Koop eerder my taillight :D Ek het die geld nodig vir ceramic coating :deal: :mwink
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on September 28, 2009, 10:29:48 pm
Jy het vergeet om daai moerse spieeltjie onder jou mods lys te sit  :biggrin:

Ssshhhhhsss! Koop eerder my taillight :D Ek het die geld nodig vir ceramic coating :deal: :mwink

Lol... hy het dit nie nodig nie...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 10:52:06 pm
How do I make my front suspension softer?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on September 28, 2009, 10:55:57 pm
compression/rebound damping or the actual springs?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 10:58:23 pm
The compression rebound adjustments etc.

I get a bad headshake on the bike when going over several consecutive bumps
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on September 28, 2009, 11:03:04 pm
The compression rebound adjustments etc.

I get a bad headshake on the bike when going over several consecutive bumps

Not always front suspension. you need to find a balance on it. Andre is a tall boy, you can prob start by reducing preload on the rear shock. I think he had it turned all the way to the full...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 11:15:48 pm
Bus was at my place the other night and we spent quite sometime getting te rear suspension perfect, im talking about front suspension
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on September 28, 2009, 11:23:32 pm
Bus was at my place the other night and we spent quite sometime getting te rear suspension perfect, im talking about front suspension

Ek sal net weer moet gaan oplees, ek kan nie lekker onthou nie. Maar jy moet ook weet dat die wobble nie noodwendig deur die voorste settings oorsaak word nie. Ek het op my R80 n wobble reggemaak deur bietjie meer preload en damping agter op te sit.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 11:28:55 pm
Jes ek verstaan, dit gaan nie net oor die wobble nie, ek dink die wobble het te doen met die rebound, maar ek wiel die voor suspension bietjie sagter he?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on September 28, 2009, 11:34:54 pm
ek wiel die voor suspension bietjie sagter he?

Ek weet jy wiel...  :biggrin:

Ek het al met my DRZ ook gevind dat ek bietjie sukkel met traction op corrugations, maar vir die res is dit fine. Ek het n Claymer of Haynes manual vir die DRZ. ek sal die suspension setting gaan soek, maar jou beste vriend is google en thumpertalk. hou op hier vrae vra  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 28, 2009, 11:44:07 pm
Maar ek wiel graag my vrae hier in afrikaans vra ;D

Thanks vir die info! Ek sal daai manual by jou koop voor jy vlieg!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 29, 2009, 08:07:43 am
When I got my bike, I also had headshake on tar roads at speed.
Check out the steering bearings.
If they are OK, just tighten them abit.
Problem solved.


BTW, what are stone deflectors? ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 08:18:41 am
BTW, what are stone deflectors? ???

Gay handguards  :pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 29, 2009, 08:24:57 am
 :imaposer:
good one!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 09:39:46 am
Any one ever developed a clanky knoking sound?

starting to think the cam chain or something needs work o.O
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 09:49:16 am
Any one ever developed a clanky knoking sound?

starting to think the cam chain or something needs work o.O

Do you have a MCCT?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 09:59:43 am
Any one ever developed a clanky knoking sound?

starting to think the cam chain or something needs work o.O

Do you have a MCCT?

no clue havent looked :D I know the wiseco piston will clank a bit when its cold though atm after riding to work I put the bike in idle and fire her up and it is clanking despite being warm o.O
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 10:07:28 am
Any one ever developed a clanky knoking sound?

starting to think the cam chain or something needs work o.O

Do you have a MCCT?

no clue havent looked :D I know the wiseco piston will clank a bit when its cold though atm after riding to work I put the bike in idle and fire her up and it is clanking despite being warm o.O

The MCCT will be clearly visible - looks quite different from the auto one. If you have the manual one fitted, adjusting it by ear is quite easy.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 10:26:20 am
Any one ever developed a clanky knoking sound?

starting to think the cam chain or something needs work o.O

Do you have a MCCT?

no clue havent looked :D I know the wiseco piston will clank a bit when its cold though atm after riding to work I put the bike in idle and fire her up and it is clanking despite being warm o.O

The MCCT will be clearly visible - looks quite different from the auto one. If you have the manual one fitted, adjusting it by ear is quite easy.

ok where and what does it look like?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 11:16:32 am
Circled red is the MCCT and circled blue is the stock ACCT.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 11:24:53 am
kewl lemme go check
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 11:28:37 am
fark sakes I have the ACCT =\

so what now? strip and adjust or replace with a MCCT and where do I get one?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 29, 2009, 11:38:24 am
Think you can only get them from overseas... Thumpertalk Store etc...

Just remember that DRZ motors are normally loud and klanky...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 11:40:24 am
Think you can only get them from overseas... Thumpertalk Store etc...

Just remember that DRZ motors are normally loud and klanky...
Yea though its louder and clankyer
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 11:42:53 am
I have not yet found one in SA but if I recall correctly the Busa and Honda CRF450 uses the same CCT so one should be able to get it somewhere locally.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 29, 2009, 11:46:04 am
If yr going to order from tt lemne know plz
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 29, 2009, 11:50:04 am
And me... we can get a whole package together...

I think LGF might also be in for some goodies...

Cheaper shipping
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 29, 2009, 11:51:37 am
Im looking fos a tank and front fender, some nice mx god poser sticker kit also
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 11:55:55 am
Think I am gonna go past lecap and let him listen quick, if it is the cam chain can it be ridden for a while without dmg?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 11:57:41 am
Think I am gonna go past lecap and let him listen quick, if it is the cam chain can it be ridden for a while without dmg?

It is like the crocodile joke - hoe langer hy jou byt, hoe seerder word dit.  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 12:02:17 pm
k well heading to lecap now
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 01:35:05 pm
k so I dropped the bike on the way to lecap.

monte vista turn off i took the left and at the intersection took the left, as I turned into the corner the back wheel started slipping out like mad, tried to brake didnt help so gave it gas which corrected the line though as it hit the other side of the tire the bike slid again and went down.

turn out the bike was pissing oil onto the back wheel so as soon as I hit the corner it was show time lol :-p

Bike is fine mostly, sliders and footpeg on the right scratched and very little else. I on the other hand am bruised like a mother fucker, right ankle swolen up as well as both wrists. some nice impact brusies all over my left side. might be something small busted in my right foot though is suspect its just twisted and badly bruised.

big up to lecap for coming to fetch me, taking the bike to his workshopa nd dropping me off at the office again.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2009, 02:24:43 pm
k so I dropped the bike on the way to lecap.

monte vista turn off i took the left and at the intersection took the left, as I turned into the corner the back wheel started slipping out like mad, tried to brake didnt help so gave it gas which corrected the line though as it hit the other side of the tire the bike slid again and went down.

turn out the bike was pissing oil onto the back wheel so as soon as I hit the corner it was show time lol :-p

Bike is fine mostly, sliders and footpeg on the right scratched and very little else. I on the other hand am bruised like a mother fucker, right ankle swolen up as well as both wrists. some nice impact brusies all over my left side. might be something small busted in my right foot though is suspect its just twisted and badly bruised.

big up to lecap for coming to fetch me, taking the bike to his workshopa nd dropping me off at the office again.

Aag no man - heal soon and glad the bike is not too damaged. They seem to be bullet proof but does unfortunately bring out the hooligan in you especially in motard form
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: AntonW on September 29, 2009, 03:02:51 pm
Oops, Lecap did the same for me.  Get well.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 03:46:56 pm
k so tuns out the right ankle has a small flake avulsion fracture related to the capsule of the navicular cuneiform artculation.

o.O? so that transated to I fractured a flake off the inside od the ball joint and it hurts like a proes straat pretoria, no cast just a week or two off the foot =\

now I want to know what went wrong with the bike  :dousing:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Crossed-up on September 29, 2009, 04:15:27 pm
Oh, no, Jan!!!!

I just heard about your misfortune from Andy.

This is too bad.  Heal quickly.  Best wishes.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 04:18:29 pm
Oh, no, Jan!!!!

I just heard about your misfortune from Andy.

This is too bad.  Heal quickly.  Best wishes.

tx john :D not as bad as it sounds tbh
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on September 29, 2009, 04:24:59 pm
Circled red is the MCCT and circled blue is the stock ACCT.

2003 and later ACCT's are fine, the MCCT maybe unbreakable but it's not user proof. I'd rather have my cam chain tensioner do the work than me guessing if it's tight enough or when it needs adjustment.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 29, 2009, 04:26:17 pm
Circled red is the MCCT and circled blue is the stock ACCT.

2003 and later ACCT's are fine, the MCCT maybe unbreakable but it's not user proof. I'd rather have my cam chain tensioner do the work than me guessing if it's tight enough or when it needs adjustment.

ah well bike is at lecap any how now so will see :D its a 2005 btw
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Eisbein on September 29, 2009, 04:27:46 pm

Ek weet jy wiel...  :biggrin:


Te veel Rammstein: Ich Wiel...


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 29, 2009, 05:11:54 pm
Circled red is the MCCT and circled blue is the stock ACCT.

2003 and later ACCT's are fine, the MCCT maybe unbreakable but it's not user proof. I'd rather have my cam chain tensioner do the work than me guessing if it's tight enough or when it needs adjustment.

I bought one but never fitted it after reading extensive threads, also found out that the later models are fine.
If you want mine, it's for sale.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 29, 2009, 05:13:53 pm
k so tuns out the right ankle has a small flake avulsion fracture related to the capsule of the navicular cuneiform artculation.

o.O? so that transated to I fractured a flake off the inside od the ball joint and it hurts like a proes straat pretoria, no cast just a week or two off the foot =\

now I want to know what went wrong with the bike  :dousing:

Real sorry to hear this - hope you heal soon.
Was it engine oil or shock oil?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 29, 2009, 06:18:23 pm
Lgf i will take it if nova not int?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on September 29, 2009, 06:31:19 pm
MCCT? what is that?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 29, 2009, 06:34:34 pm
MCCT? what is that?

Manual cam chain tensionar
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: bonova on September 29, 2009, 06:35:55 pm
shit bud, that's bad luck - sorry to hear
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 02:32:56 am
CAn you buy these in SA?
(http://www.mxsouth.com/works/works-connection-anodized-billet-screws-caps-plugs-engine-plugs_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on September 30, 2009, 06:18:02 am
CAn you buy these in SA?
(http://www.mxsouth.com/works/works-connection-anodized-billet-screws-caps-plugs-engine-plugs_1.jpg)

Oooo Fok! Here we go! ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 30, 2009, 07:38:36 am
CAn you buy these in SA?
(http://www.mxsouth.com/works/works-connection-anodized-billet-screws-caps-plugs-engine-plugs_1.jpg)

Zeta s'n is baie mooier en soos ek voorheen gesÍ het oor die dipstick jy kan dit by tankgirls kry - Engine Plug - Red (ZE89-1350): R160-00
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 30, 2009, 07:43:27 am
Red not allowed on Suzukis!  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 30, 2009, 07:53:04 am
Seriously, haven't found any for a DRZ yet
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on September 30, 2009, 07:56:57 am
Seriously, haven't found any for a DRZ yet

like I said above, I enquired about them a couple of months ago. They are R160 from Skinny, or they were earlier in the year.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 10:11:02 am
Heya lgf, I might be very keen on that MCCT, let me see what lecap says about what happened and what needs to be fixed
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on September 30, 2009, 10:14:55 am
k so tuns out the right ankle has a small flake avulsion fracture related to the capsule of the navicular cuneiform artculation.

o.O? so that transated to I fractured a flake off the inside od the ball joint and it hurts like a proes straat pretoria, no cast just a week or two off the foot =\

now I want to know what went wrong with the bike  :dousing:
Aina....get better soon !
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 10:32:54 am
k so tuns out the right ankle has a small flake avulsion fracture related to the capsule of the navicular cuneiform artculation.

o.O? so that transated to I fractured a flake off the inside od the ball joint and it hurts like a proes straat pretoria, no cast just a week or two off the foot =\

now I want to know what went wrong with the bike  :dousing:
Aina....get better soon !

thx pete :D just gives me a legit reason to sit on my ass for weeks on end lol

hows ma plant btw?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 30, 2009, 11:19:39 am
Heya lgf, I might be very keen on that MCCT, let me see what lecap says about what happened and what needs to be fixed

Hi J, - Bus has grabbed it! Sorry :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 11:34:35 am
Heya lgf, I might be very keen on that MCCT, let me see what lecap says about what happened and what needs to be fixed

Hi J, - Bus has grabbed it! Sorry :-\

ah kewl no stress man :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 30, 2009, 11:37:28 am
But if you really need it, we can always maka da plan...

Mine isnt shot, but its an older model... one of the dodgy ones...

Keep us updated on the bike situation...?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 11:42:11 am
But if you really need it, we can always maka da plan...

Mine isnt shot, but its an older model... one of the dodgy ones...

Keep us updated on the bike situation...?

naw go fo it man, mine is a 2005 so should be an issue. thinking about it last night while on pain killers I think the leak must have come from the procket area.

I noticed after the crash one bolt was missing from the sprooocket cover, which would explain why it sounded like a chain rattle sound when I was moving o.O
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on September 30, 2009, 11:48:10 am
But if you really need it, we can always maka da plan...

Mine isnt shot, but its an older model... one of the dodgy ones...

Keep us updated on the bike situation...?

any half good engineering shop will be able to make one  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 02:50:12 pm
k so i have done allot of reading and my diaagnosis is that the countershaft sprocket nut loose is/was loose which made the noise and eventualy made the output shaft seal go ape shit and die which resulted int eh oil being tossed out.

Will wait for lecap but it seems to fit the bill, I guess the question is whats the damage like o.O

appreantly a know problem and the fix: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=625998
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 30, 2009, 03:52:01 pm
I have done that fix already.

You just replace the counter shaft seal and also the spacer, if its worn...

Wouldnta expected it to blow out like that though.

Anyways, you lucky it happened where it did and not somewhere really dangerous.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 03:54:21 pm
Bus...show em your blinging rear luguage rack!
Have you decided if yr going to do the bearings yr self?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on September 30, 2009, 03:55:18 pm
k so tuns out the right ankle has a small flake avulsion fracture related to the capsule of the navicular cuneiform artculation.

o.O? so that transated to I fractured a flake off the inside od the ball joint and it hurts like a proes straat pretoria, no cast just a week or two off the foot =\

now I want to know what went wrong with the bike  :dousing:
Aina....get better soon !

thx pete :D just gives me a legit reason to sit on my ass for weeks on end lol

hows ma plant btw?
Showha...the plant is growing
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 03:56:35 pm
I have done that fix already.

You just replace the counter shaft seal and also the spacer, if its worn...

Wouldnta expected it to blow out like that though.

Anyways, you lucky it happened where it did and not somewhere really dangerous.

yep agreed, got very lucky.... less than like 500 meters back I was on the n1 doing 150
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on September 30, 2009, 04:04:30 pm
I have done that fix already.

You just replace the counter shaft seal and also the spacer, if its worn...

Wouldnta expected it to blow out like that though.

Anyways, you lucky it happened where it did and not somewhere really dangerous.

yep agreed, got very lucky.... less than like 500 meters back I was on the n1 doing 150

150 - drz - mmmm either you were killing it or you rear sprocket is as big as your front sprocket  :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 30, 2009, 04:06:59 pm
Bus...show em your blinging rear luguage rack!
Have you decided if yr going to do the bearings yr self?

Im not sure yet, it looks like a pain in the ringpiece... (To replace steering head bearings)

And I hear Lecap is very busy...

Here is the rack that Fidel/Wannabee made for me, naais!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 04:08:43 pm
Have any of you thought of rim anodizing?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on September 30, 2009, 04:10:39 pm
Bus...show em your blinging rear luguage rack!
Have you decided if yr going to do the bearings yr self?

Im not sure yet, it looks like a pain in the ringpiece... (To replace steering head bearings)


my next set of steering head bearings i'm fitting myself - a skill that any dakar owner should have  :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 30, 2009, 04:11:23 pm
Id like to make my rims black or gold...

But its quite a mission, you have to unlace the whole wheel to have it done
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on September 30, 2009, 04:13:34 pm
my next set of steering head bearings i'm fitting myself - a skill that any dakar owner should have  :P

Its those relentless wheelies of yours, Hobonob...  ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 04:14:14 pm
But we have ze german master technition at hand...maybe he can give us a good price for lacing 4 rims.
The anodizing itself is actually quite cheap
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 06:38:17 pm
I have done that fix already.

You just replace the counter shaft seal and also the spacer, if its worn...

Wouldnta expected it to blow out like that though.

Anyways, you lucky it happened where it did and not somewhere really dangerous.

yep agreed, got very lucky.... less than like 500 meters back I was on the n1 doing 150

150 - drz - mmmm either you were killing it or you rear sprocket is as big as your front sprocket  :P

have topped out at 168.3 :D  16T front sprocket, havent specked the rear it is a 450 though. as is it could use a 15T as in 5th it wont rev all the way
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 06:42:24 pm
But we have ze german master technition at hand...maybe he can give us a good price for lacing 4 rims.
The anodizing itself is actually quite cheap

My motard rims are and they are pure sexyness :D!

skeem I will go the same with the offroad ones when I find some
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on September 30, 2009, 06:42:42 pm
my next set of steering head bearings i'm fitting myself - a skill that any dakar owner should have  :P

Its those relentless wheelies of yours, Hobonob...  ::)

nope - k@k design  :'(

like clock work every 20000km and the bearing is shot - damn germans!!!

steering head bearing is the only crap thing on the dakar - and for me 20k is a year so so far have had them replaced under warranty but next one i'll have to do myself
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 06:44:11 pm
my next set of steering head bearings i'm fitting myself - a skill that any dakar owner should have  :P

Its those relentless wheelies of yours, Hobonob...  ::)

nope - k@k design  :'(

like clock work every 20000km and the bearing is shot - damn germans!!!

steering head bearing is the only crap thing on the dakar - and for me 20k is a year so so far have had them replaced under warranty but next one i'll have to do myself

the Xcountry was worse, longest one lasted like 100km
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 09:41:46 pm
Chopped the sprocket cover
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_1106Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 09:43:13 pm
nice,

do ur self a favor and check the locktight fix some time!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 09:46:05 pm
Done! Checked it regularly, but with the thing chopped open I can monitor it
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 09:48:56 pm
Done! Checked it regularly, but with the thing chopped open I can monitor it

yea its a good idea
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on September 30, 2009, 09:54:54 pm
rekon im gonna buy some of these
(http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/OG/2009_Fox_Racing_Titan_Race_Short_Black.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2009, 10:08:34 pm
My mx pants also has the hip protectors, work nice

Here is my currnet dash setup
Ugly rusty vapor bracker and all
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_1108Medium.jpg)

Going to pay a visit to everyones favourite Italian waterjet guy and see what type of dash we can make, want to integrate the ignition and a 12v plug
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on October 01, 2009, 12:17:18 am
hey ET, ek het my sprocket cover se onder kant ook afgesny, hoe het jy die glewe ingesny?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 12:20:36 am
Ek het 'n router (sp) gebruik, ek dink dit het orite uit gekom, eks nie 100 tevrede nie, sal as my bootjie inkom een van daai carbon covers bestel
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 01, 2009, 07:17:25 am
Just give me a quick rundown on the sprocket issue pls.

What is the cause, what model etc? I've got an 05 E model.

Thanx
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 01, 2009, 07:25:15 am
Just give me a quick rundown on the sprocket issue pls.

What is the cause, what model etc? I've got an 05 E model.

Thanx
All years and models. They refer to it as the countershaft sprocket fix. Remove the front sprocket and apply locktite to the splines, reinstall the sprocket and you're done. It does make changing the front sprocket interesting though.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 02:32:39 pm
I find my clutch is abit heavy to pull - solution?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 02:49:32 pm
Lube the cable and the linkages where it goes into the motor...

Use your left hand more often... :evil6:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 02:50:58 pm
Oh btw where can I have braided cables made up? Suzi south wanted like 1.2k for a set front and back, is that a normal price?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 01, 2009, 03:13:00 pm
Oh btw where can I have braided cables made up? Suzi south wanted like 1.2k for a set front and back, is that a normal price?
Price sounds OK. The probably using Hel lines - lekker stuff.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 03:15:25 pm
Oh btw where can I have braided cables made up? Suzi south wanted like 1.2k for a set front and back, is that a normal price?
Price sounds OK. The probably using Hel lines - lekker stuff.

kewl then I think i will change them, also found a nice tank :D

18.6 leter one
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 03:16:59 pm
Oh btw where can I have braided cables made up? Suzi south wanted like 1.2k for a set front and back, is that a normal price?
Price sounds OK. The probably using Hel lines - lekker stuff.

kewl then I think i will change them, also found a nice tank :D

18.6 leter one

make...cost?...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 03:25:11 pm
Where? If you dont take it i will. Is it that one on gumtree?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 03:25:44 pm
Where? If you dont take it i will. Is it that one on gumtree?

yea already told the guys I would take it
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 03:30:08 pm
Just interested in the make - never seen that size before.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 03:32:02 pm
Its cool i dont want that one, lookin for one that i can still bolt the tank shrouds onto
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 03:33:12 pm
Think its the 4 Gallon IMS wiff integrated rad shrouds
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 03:39:12 pm
Spoke to lecap, no serious dmg to the bike at all, fark yes!

gonna have the pipe ceramic coated while the bike is standing
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 03:42:26 pm
What size rear tyres are you guys running?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 03:43:02 pm
What size rear tyres are you guys running?

17/150/70 :-p
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 01, 2009, 03:45:56 pm
Oh btw where can I have braided cables made up? Suzi south wanted like 1.2k for a set front and back, is that a normal price?
Price sounds OK. The probably using Hel lines - lekker stuff.

kewl then I think i will change them, also found a nice tank :D

18.6 leter one

I think that tank is a 17l with about 15l usable.... 4 gallon(15liters) IMS tank.
I saw the ad, but I think they got the volume wrong.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 03:53:51 pm
shit they sold the tank, meh! thogu they can order another for 3k and they confirm it is 18.6l's
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 01, 2009, 03:58:01 pm
Interesting.....I've never seen a 18.6l IMS tank........ when you get one post a pic please.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 03:59:43 pm
Thats the 4 Gallon... It just depends on what rate you using for converting from Gallons to Liters...

My 3.9G Clarke = +-17L
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:00:15 pm
You can get a 16L Acerbis for $240 plus postage
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 04:00:53 pm
Lgf from tt?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 04:05:14 pm
http://www.clarkemfg.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=287

E model 3.6G Clarke tank direct from Clarke Manufacturing $209

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:06:31 pm
oooh wonder what shipping would be like
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 04:07:53 pm
Surely less than R3k total...?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 04:08:08 pm
Wats the biggest size tank that still keeps your shrouds?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:11:16 pm
Lgf from tt?

www.justgastanks.com
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:13:45 pm
yea thats a good Q et, whats the biggest tank I can get for the drz sm?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:15:22 pm
now this is the shiz!

28L
(http://www.justgastanks.com/store/images/File6_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 04:16:10 pm
Lgf you say the price includes shipping?
Nivia why do you want to go so big?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 04:18:26 pm
Biggest size that will still hold your shrouds is the Clarke

Not sure about Acerbis, might be very close...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:18:42 pm
Lgf you say the price includes shipping?
Nivia why do you want to go so big?

why not :D

650 Australian Dollar = 4,265.12 South African Rand

then add shipping
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:18:57 pm
Biggest size that will still hold your shrouds is the Clarke

Not sure about Acerbis, might be very close...

the 28L does work on the sm
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:19:03 pm
Surely less than R3k total...?

shipping $65
$305 total x =-7.6 = R2318+VAT = R2642
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 04:20:15 pm
If you put a 28l tank on, whats the use, you will lose the nimble-ness, its 30kg on the front end :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:21:07 pm
If you put a 28l tank on, whats the use, you will lose the nimble-ness, its 30kg on the front end :)

yea i guess
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:22:27 pm
Biggest size that will still hold your shrouds is the Clarke

Not sure about Acerbis, might be very close...

Acerbis holds 15.8l
Clarke 14.7l
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 01, 2009, 04:23:37 pm
If you put a 28l tank on, whats the use, you will lose the nimble-ness, its 30kg on the front end :)

yea i guess

27 litres @ 0.72kg per litre = 19.44kg

sure the tank does not weigh in at 11kg

you can always fill a large tank half way - but you can never put 27 litre into a 16 litre tank  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 01, 2009, 04:24:46 pm
Mine takes 17L, I promise... And its a 3.9 Gallon...?

Remember u get diff size gallons...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:25:22 pm
seems I got the price wrong, 560 not 650 aud

so with shiping it works out to

625 Australian Dollar = 4,101.08 South African Rand

:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:25:30 pm
Aqualine also make this 17L tank for $450

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:27:01 pm
Mine takes 17L, I promise... And its a 3.9 Gallon...?

Remember u get diff size gallons...

1USG = 3.78L
3.9x3.78 =14.74

 ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 01, 2009, 04:28:25 pm
   
1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters
    
1 Imperial gallon = 4.54609188 liters
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:33:15 pm
If you put a 28l tank on, whats the use, you will lose the nimble-ness, its 30kg on the front end :)

yea i guess

I'd rather have a $240 16L tank (320km range) and carry 2 or 5 l with me if I'm really going far between petrol stations, than a 28L  $550 tank all the time!
That extar $210 buys a lot of farkles!  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 04:34:49 pm
I seem to be getting 120km on 8l of fuel, does that sound alright?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:37:18 pm
If you put a 28l tank on, whats the use, you will lose the nimble-ness, its 30kg on the front end :)

yea i guess

I'd rather have a $240 16L tank (320km range) and carry 2 or 5 l with me if I'm really going far between petrol stations, than a 28L  $550 tank all the time!
That extar $210 buys a lot of farkles!  ;D

lol mike if I break down the cost saving I m making on the drz vs the 990 the cost of farkles are nothing mate :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 01, 2009, 04:46:33 pm
I seem to be getting 120km on 8l of fuel, does that sound alright?

Uhh...no!
Riding normally off road (slow to you I suppose!) I get 24-26km/l
Twist the ear and it drops to 19-20km/l
You're getting 15
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 01, 2009, 04:47:20 pm
I seem to be getting 120km on 8l of fuel, does that sound alright?

Uhh...no!
Riding normally off road (slow to you I suppose!) I get 24-26km/l
Twist the ear and it drops to 19-20km/l
You're getting 15

I get 14 twisting it o.O
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 01, 2009, 05:12:23 pm
Beware of the IMS integrated shroud covers.

Ask Sidetrack, his started to leak when he attended the ec bash 2 years ago, shafed through on the rads, and this can also pose a problem if you have a big fall. You will have to get something like the kevlar pads they put on the KTM's as protection.

Having a leaking tank with the leak at the bottom is problems i.m.h.o

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 01, 2009, 05:55:16 pm
I got the Clarke translusent tank,easily get 320 kms!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 01, 2009, 06:52:41 pm
just to get an idea of what's available, check this link:
http://www.justgastanks.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_69_171

Safari (RV Aqualine) tanks are always a bit more expensive. There are some good Acerbis, Clarke and IMS options there...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 01, 2009, 08:34:29 pm
I got the Clarke translusent tank,easily get 320 kms!

Edgy, where do you get the time??

To choose from a line up of bikes like yours to ride?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2009, 08:52:50 pm
Makin a dash to house the vapor, ignition and 12vplug

Ally
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00011Medium.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00010Medium-2.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00009Medium-2.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00008Medium-2.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00007Medium-2.jpg)

Will get some of these to wire in to see neutral, indicators and brights
(http://www.fort777.co.za/images/sierra/LED912.jpg)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 01, 2009, 09:01:54 pm
I got the Clarke translusent tank,easily get 320 kms!

Edgy, where do you get the time??

To choose from a line up of bikes like yours to ride?
I don`t....Cacus just used the 400 to join us to KZN :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 02, 2009, 07:48:25 am
Lucky bliksem!!  :drif:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 02, 2009, 12:28:21 pm
If you have a yellow z, wot colour rims would look best?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 02, 2009, 12:32:12 pm
Black all the way!!!

Want mine the same...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 02, 2009, 12:32:55 pm
Gold also looks lekker, check Sidetracks ex-bike earlier in this thread...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 02, 2009, 12:39:04 pm
But hes hubs were also gold? Lecap said they cant anodize the hubs? Of verstaan ek verkeerd?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 02, 2009, 12:45:48 pm
He got aftermarket gold Talon hubs.... Very bling...  :drif:

I have the silver ones on my tart rims
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 02, 2009, 12:47:30 pm
I'd anodize the rim if the hub could also be done.
Jislaaik maar die bikes is n money pit! Hoekom is daar so baie aftermarket parts! :deal: ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 02, 2009, 12:56:19 pm
Jislaaik maar die bikes is n money pit! Hoekom is daar so baie aftermarket parts! :deal: ;D

errr, there's a difference between aftermarket parts, and bling for the sake of bling  :thumleft:

it's only as much of a money pit as you make it!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 02, 2009, 01:08:47 pm
Jislaaik maar die bikes is n money pit! Hoekom is daar so baie aftermarket parts! :deal: ;D

errr, there's a difference between aftermarket parts, and bling for the sake of bling  :thumleft:

it's only as much of a money pit as you make it!

Ja nee, al wat nodig is n pyp en groter tank, nie al die dinge wat jy wil doen nie!!!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 04, 2009, 02:11:11 pm
The Dad and I did the alternative route today, i put the 15t sprocket on the front, very  nice! Runs easily up to 135km/h, and when doing more technical stuff I put the 14t on...then it out drags pretty much any bike....... :D

Dash
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00006Medium-1.jpg)

Blommekind
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00003Medium-1.jpg)

Check the centre of the tyre thread!
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00014Medium-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 04, 2009, 07:05:27 pm
Edgy how many L is your tank? The clarke 17l like bus has, they say it will only fit the S model true ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2009, 08:16:16 am
The S and E uses different ways to mount the tank. The E has two bolts that screws into the frame and on the S it just slides over two mounting points. E tank can be modified to fit a S but the other way round is much more difficult. Rather buy an Acerbis for the E, very good tank with two taps.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 05, 2009, 11:37:28 am
Anyone else struggle, my bike takes a looong time to warm up before i can ride.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 05, 2009, 11:39:45 am
Anyone else struggle, my bike takes a looong time to warm up before i can ride.

???

start bike
ride (take it easy for a couple of min)
then gooi mielies

???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Kobus on October 05, 2009, 11:40:47 am
Congrats on the bike Etienne.

You are bound to take this threads page count to 30 in no time.  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 05, 2009, 11:44:36 am
Anyone else struggle, my bike takes a looong time to warm up before i can ride.

???

start bike
ride (take it easy for a couple of min)
then gooi mielies

???


Precisely  :thumleft:

If you let it idle and wait for it to warm up it takes quite some time. Start it and get going immediately. If you run it like that it warms up within 2 or 3 blocks.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 05, 2009, 02:20:12 pm
Anyone else struggle, my bike takes a looong time to warm up before i can ride.

???

start bike
ride (take it easy for a couple of min)
then gooi mielies

???


Precisely  :thumleft:

If you let it idle and wait for it to warm up it takes quite some time. Start it and get going immediately. If you run it like that it warms up within 2 or 3 blocks.



Yea, I normaly strt mine up and let it idle while I have a coffee and a smoke in the morning +-5 mins and then ride it gently for a while very quickly followed by a good spanking
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 05, 2009, 02:31:27 pm
Anyone else struggle, my bike takes a looong time to warm up before i can ride.

???

start bike
ride (take it easy for a couple of min)
then gooi mielies

???


Precisely  :thumleft:

If you let it idle and wait for it to warm up it takes quite some time. Start it and get going immediately. If you run it like that it warms up within 2 or 3 blocks.



Yea, I normaly strt mine up and let it idle while I have a coffee and a smoke in the morning +-5 mins and then ride it gently for a while very quickly followed by a good spanking

5min ???

WTF

its not a ossewa ???

i get on my bike - i start it and then put on my earplugs, helmet and gloves - then i go

so idle for maybe 30sec before i get going

the trick is not getting it to operating temp before you start riding - its riding it till it reaches operating temp before you start riding like a d00s
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 05, 2009, 03:38:39 pm
was told to let the fordged piston warm up for a bit
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 05, 2009, 03:45:03 pm
was told to let the fordged piston warm up for a bit

nah sounds like bollocks if you ask me

forged, cast, whatever - it aint no f1 racing car - just ride it  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 05, 2009, 10:35:48 pm
Tank bags, they are better than the thing that site on the tank
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 06, 2009, 08:01:24 am
Hey Guys

Does the DRZ's with FCR carbs use more fuel? I get 20km/l and I do not ride hard.
Am I suppose to get more?

If so, what must I do to get it to normal?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 06, 2009, 09:02:58 am
Hey Guys

Does the DRZ's with FCR carbs use more fuel? I get 20km/l and I do not ride hard.
Am I suppose to get more?

If so, what must I do to get it to normal?

You would guess so, bigger carb more performance but I found very little difference between the Mikuni and Keihin even with the big bore kit, both gave around 26 km/l. Proper jetting is very important.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 06, 2009, 11:02:58 am
Hey Guys

Does the DRZ's with FCR carbs use more fuel? I get 20km/l and I do not ride hard.
Am I suppose to get more?

If so, what must I do to get it to normal?

You would guess so, bigger carb more performance but I found very little difference between the Mikuni and Keihin even with the big bore kit, both gave around 26 km/l. Proper jetting is very important.


Jy praat so baie, wanneer gaan ons nou myne reg jet? Hmm Hmm?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 06, 2009, 11:04:13 am
Ettienne, daai is tank slappers!!! Maar ek stem saam, n gewone tank bag werk nie daa-op nie!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 06, 2009, 11:12:02 am
Tank bags, they are better than the thing that site on the tank

I just got some of those ATV tank bags,cheap and look great!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 06, 2009, 11:14:31 am
http://www.4strokes.com/reviews/wolfman/
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 11:15:50 am
Jep edgy its the same, the tusk bags
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 06, 2009, 11:21:30 am
Jep edgy its the same, the tusk bags
Thats them....good value at about R350!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 06, 2009, 02:06:09 pm
Hey Guys

Does the DRZ's with FCR carbs use more fuel? I get 20km/l and I do not ride hard.
Am I suppose to get more?

If so, what must I do to get it to normal?

You would guess so, bigger carb more performance but I found very little difference between the Mikuni and Keihin even with the big bore kit, both gave around 26 km/l. Proper jetting is very important.


agreed on that one 100% I know for a fact the jetting on mine is off, getting like 15 km/l while spanking it, havnt had a chance to take it for a tune up
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 02:08:36 pm
I have booked my bike in at superbike solutions 8)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 06, 2009, 02:18:54 pm
I have booked my bike in at superbike solutions 8)

Planning to aswell, what the charge like?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 02:44:07 pm
Hurmf dunno
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 06, 2009, 02:45:50 pm
k lemme know when you do
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 07:44:55 pm
Ok..who is in for a thumpertalk group order - split shipping
This is wot I'm buying:

 ITEM  DESCRIPTION  QTY   EACH    TOTAL   
 
 
      Clarke Manufacturing Suzuki DR-Z400S/Kawasaki KLX400SR Fuel Tank - Yellow
 
     $198.55   
  $198.55   
 
 
      Suzuki DRZ 400E/S (00-09), Kawasaki KLX400 (03-05) - Ignition/Clutch Combo Pack
 
     $36.99   
  $36.99   
 
 
 ^     Suzuki DRZ 400E/S/K (00-09), Kawaski KLX400 (03-05) - Clutch Cover Side 
 1   $0.00   
  $0.00   
 
 ^     Suzuki DRZ 400E/S (00-09), Kawasaki KLX400 (03-05) - Ignition Cover Side 
 1   $0.00   
  $0.00   
 
 
      RAD GRD SUZ/KAW MSR
 
     $31.46   
  $31.46   
 
 
      SUPERMOTARD F FEND 01 YEL
 
     $26.96   
  $26.96   
 
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 06, 2009, 08:34:35 pm
how big is that tank?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 08:35:24 pm
17l and you can still bolt yr tank shrouds on
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 06, 2009, 08:41:04 pm
check out justgastanks.com as well:
http://www.justgastanks.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_69_171

AFAIK Sidetrack (I think it was him) had the Clarke but then switched to the Acerbis. Anyone know why?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 06, 2009, 08:49:36 pm
Ettienne, onthou net dat beide die 2 bikes wat genoem word by die Clarke tank, staal tanks het, nie plastic soos n E model nie.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 08:50:12 pm
He had the big one that goes over the radiator, the one im ordering is the same one bus has
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 08:50:49 pm
Ettienne, onthou net dat beide die 2 bikes wat genoem word by die Clarke tank, staal tanks het, nie plastic soos n E model nie.

Die aftermarket een is egter plastic, om nuwe brackets te maak is niks nie
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 06, 2009, 09:03:57 pm
Hmm seems a group order doesnt help with shipping costs, eg. shipping on one tank $50, shipping on two tanks $100
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 07, 2009, 04:33:57 am
Hmm seems a group order doesnt help with shipping costs, eg. shipping on one tank $50, shipping on two tanks $100

bummer =\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 07, 2009, 07:17:30 am
Ettienne, onthou net dat beide die 2 bikes wat genoem word by die Clarke tank, staal tanks het, nie plastic soos n E model nie.

Die aftermarket een is egter plastic, om nuwe brackets te maak is niks nie

The Clarke is a good tank but the Acerbis makes it easierto use the last bit of fuel and it has taps both sides, the Clarke you have to lean over about a dozen times to use the last 1 - 2 litres of fuel.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 07, 2009, 08:35:48 am
Hi Sidetrack...did you do your jetting yourself or did you take your bike to be jetted and Dyno'd?

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 07, 2009, 10:58:58 am
Hi Sidetrack...did you do your jetting yourself or did you take your bike to be jetted and Dyno'd?

Any suggestions?

I did alot of testing on my old Mikuni which I had very close, Runner did my FCR no idea what the jetting was (lost my manual). The jetting specs as per Thumpertalk is a good start
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 07, 2009, 07:07:37 pm
Ettienne, onthou net dat beide die 2 bikes wat genoem word by die Clarke tank, staal tanks het, nie plastic soos n E model nie.

Die aftermarket een is egter plastic, om nuwe brackets te maak is niks nie

The Clarke is a good tank but the Acerbis makes it easierto use the last bit of fuel and it has taps both sides, the Clarke you have to lean over about a dozen times to use the last 1 - 2 litres of fuel.

Good point but the Acerbis one is $150 more though....that's kinda allot :-/
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 07, 2009, 07:13:58 pm
Ettienne, onthou net dat beide die 2 bikes wat genoem word by die Clarke tank, staal tanks het, nie plastic soos n E model nie.

Die aftermarket een is egter plastic, om nuwe brackets te maak is niks nie

The Clarke is a good tank but the Acerbis makes it easierto use the last bit of fuel and it has taps both sides, the Clarke you have to lean over about a dozen times to use the last 1 - 2 litres of fuel.

Good point but the Acerbis one is $150 more though....that's kinda allot :-/

http://www.justgastanks.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_69_171

it's only $45 more


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 07, 2009, 07:22:13 pm
Ah oky, the one on TT is allot more, might be a different size

Ordered me some Kappa soft lugguage today :)  Pimpin!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 07, 2009, 10:45:40 pm
Hey Bus....post a pic of the Husabrz!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 08, 2009, 11:19:19 am
I took my Clarke tank (S/SM model) over to Etís pozzie to see how/if it will fit.

Turns out that it fits perfectly, it just needs a bit of fiddling with the connectionsÖ

But Im sure Et will elaborateÖ

Now, my tank is blue, and his bike yellowÖ So we ended up making a Husaberg-DRZ bastard child comboÖ :laughing7:

With the right decals it could look very cool indeedÖ ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 08, 2009, 12:03:45 pm
Looks really awesome!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 08, 2009, 12:08:52 pm
Add a little bit of blue to the white side covers, and maybe a blue front fender and yellow headlight cowl.

And I think you could have a winner...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 08, 2009, 12:12:01 pm
Add a little bit of blue to the white side covers, and maybe a blue front fender and yellow headlight cowl.

And I think you could have a winner...
what tank is that?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 08, 2009, 12:23:55 pm
Coffee not kicked in yet, Nova?  :P

Its my blue Clarke 3.9 Gallon tank...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 08, 2009, 03:00:39 pm
Going to buy the 17l clarke :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 08, 2009, 03:17:21 pm
first things first I need to fix my bike and then get offroad wheels
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Andy660 on October 10, 2009, 02:03:21 am
DID YOU KNOW ?

Kawasaki KLX400 When the other brands here noticed a gap in their lineups, they fired up the R&D machine and developed a bike to fill the gap. Kawasaki and Suzuki recently entered into a sort of partnership to flesh out these gaps in their lineups without tiring out their R&D departments or draining the budget. They agreed to share certain models and, voila, a green DR-Z400 rebadged as a KLX400. Of course, Suzuki has the DR-Z400 in kickstart and electric-start flavors, while the KLX comes only with the E-button.

Both companies also sell a dual-sport rendition. It will pass California standards, but the dirt-only model we tested is a federal off-road model and thus a red-sticker bike that may be restricted to certain times of the year at some riding areas in California.

Even in the completely stock and wonderfully quiet form, the KLX makes a very impressive 40 horsepower. Both Suzuki and Kawasaki sell their street versions of this bike in electric-start only, but with the same quality suspension components found on the off-road race models, including a fully adjustable shock and Showa 49mm conventional fork with cartridge internals.

The seat height is not especially low, but the seat is soft and cushy. The rear of the seat slopes backward, and that makes some riders feel as if they are sliding back under acceleration. Otherwise, the KLX is the off-road spiritual brother to a Cadillac: plenty of power, supple suspension and ample comfort.

The steering is not really crisp, but like the Gas Gas, that has more to do with the seat and tank keeping the rider from getting forward than it does with frame geometry. At a trail pace, the KLX is super-plush, easy to ride and pleasant. Bump up to race pace, though, and the 283-pound KLX is less happy. With a fair amount of weight, soft suspension and sit-down-oriented ergonomics, the DR-Z doesn't like to be pushed. You can crank in the compression quite a bit with good results, and the action doesn't suffer much, either.

Frankly, serious racers will look elsewhere. Trail riders will find all they need here to thrill them yet enjoy a comfortable ride that offers vibration-free plonking. We give it demerits for its lack of green-sticker legality but still call it a trail favorite.The KLX runs $5499.

The KLX400 makes a comfortable ride but is not ready for the racetrack. I could feel the extra weight of the electric starter. This would be a good bike for the average trail rider. Elmer Symons

Whatever off-road bike I have gets used for a race bike for a few, select events. For that reason, I prefer the kickstart DR-Z. If I wasn't racing or rode predominantly on hard terrain, I'd go for the luxury cruiser E-start versions. At race pace or in sand, I feel the weight, but otherwise, I don't so why kick? Karel Kramer

Hey, if you want an electric motor and cushy seat, this is the one. As long as you don't push the pace too hard, it's great. E-start worked flawlessly. Kip Temple

This bike is technically the same as the Suzuki but felt better. The electric start makes a difference in the way the motor runs, because of the extra flywheel mass, and it worked out great on our dry, dusty course. More tractable roll-on power was a big help. Comfy ergonomics helped round out a good, fun package. Ed Tripp
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 10, 2009, 04:48:12 am
We get the best of all worlds in SA with the "E" model DRZ!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 10, 2009, 11:29:19 am
Has anyone fitted a 12v socket to the DRZ? Are there spare available wires behind the headlight?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 10, 2009, 11:42:18 am
I fitted one to mine, with fuse etc, will posta pic!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stev0 on October 10, 2009, 05:37:12 pm
Has anyone fitted a 12v socket to the DRZ? Are there spare available wires behind the headlight?

Edgy, run one from the ignition :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 11, 2009, 04:42:56 am
Did that,works sweet!
Thanks!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 11, 2009, 08:04:08 pm
gonna consider doing that to mine before the bash, need to power my cell/gps
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 12, 2009, 07:05:23 pm
Ok so I have ordered:

Sumo Front fender
Touring screen Kappa
Soft panniers Kappa
17l Tank
Radiator braces
TT engine guards

Cant wait for ze stuff to come!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 12, 2009, 07:52:56 pm
http://www.4strokes.com/reviews/wolfman/
Cant use those, I sit to far "onto" the tank :-/
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: SUPERMOTO-GP on October 12, 2009, 09:52:56 pm
Fitted my new Edge tail-light last week with Oxford LED flickers,what a difference! Thanks Wolweseun!
hi edgy,im also a drz owner.
i would like to know where did you buy your "edge tail light" and what was the pricing.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 12, 2009, 10:00:49 pm
Welcome Supermoto-gp! Post some pictures of your DRZ man!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 13, 2009, 02:09:34 am
Fitted my new Edge tail-light last week with Oxford LED flickers,what a difference! Thanks Wolweseun!
hi edgy,im also a drz owner.
i would like to know where did you buy your "edge tail light" and what was the pricing.
Wolweseun bud,PM Wolweseun!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on October 13, 2009, 06:46:57 am
Fitted my new Edge tail-light last week with Oxford LED flickers,what a difference! Thanks Wolweseun!
hi edgy,im also a drz owner.
i would like to know where did you buy your "edge tail light" and what was the pricing.
Wolweseun bud,PM Wolweseun!
Can one not get LED indicators in CT then? I want for the TTR!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 13, 2009, 08:29:33 am
Yip, you can get flickers in CT, just the Edge taillight is very scarce...

I got a lekker pair from Tracmac

You can also get them from the place across the road from Tracmac in Waterkant Str. Nice selection.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 13, 2009, 12:32:39 pm
Wolweseun had one of the LED tail lights in stock when I was there last.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on October 13, 2009, 03:19:17 pm
What make/ model (The Tail light) is that ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 13, 2009, 03:23:37 pm
DRC Edge 2 ... I think, for DRZ400SM...but works perfectly on my E model.

http://www.drcproducts.com/elect/d45-29-34/index.html
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: SUPERMOTO-GP on October 13, 2009, 04:49:34 pm
Here is my DR-Z 400sm, I bought it from Vilaishima at the beggining of this month.
Some pictures has my school toy in it aswell.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 13, 2009, 05:01:46 pm
very nice mate  :thumleft:

welcome
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 13, 2009, 05:11:01 pm
Sweet! :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: SUPERMOTO-GP on October 13, 2009, 05:28:14 pm
Wolweseun had one of the LED tail lights in stock when I was there last.
What did you pay for it?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 15, 2009, 09:20:01 am
Ok guys, I enjoy my bike and it has enough wooma for me. What I'd really like is to get more km/l
with out running lean and damaging the engine.

So, I get around 20km/l.

What does a stock DRZ out of the box give? Sidetrack said he got around 26km/l...that would be great considering
I want top do long distance trips and need some good millage out of of my tank.

Any ideas what to do?

If I take it to the Dino guys and they put a dynojet kit in, will that help with fuel efficiency or only on the power side.

Or should I just accept 20km/l? Bus...km/l?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 15, 2009, 09:25:40 am
I get round about 20km/L too, but thats "urban" stuff, lots of stop-start stuff.  >:D

When cruising at constant throttle I get 25-26km/L

It also depends on your gearing and cruising speed.

Jetting will def help for your fuel mileage, and also more vooma...

Win-win

Dyno time is money really well spent...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 15, 2009, 09:28:59 am
MMnnnn.... I get 20km/l cruising at 80-100km/h running 15/44 sprockets. \
Ok then, Dyno it will be!

I will just need to find someone decent to do it.....anybody know of someone in EC?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 15, 2009, 09:36:27 am
Ok guys, I enjoy my bike and it has enough wooma for me. What I'd really like is to get more km/l
with out running lean and damaging the engine.

So, I get around 20km/l.

What does a stock DRZ out of the box give? Sidetrack said he got around 26km/l...that would be great considering
I want top do long distance trips and need some good millage out of of my tank.

Any ideas what to do?

If I take it to the Dino guys and they put a dynojet kit in, will that help with fuel efficiency or only on the power side.

Or should I just accept 20km/l? Bus...km/l?

The consumption sounds about right. Mine averaged the same in town.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 15, 2009, 01:11:36 pm
running 15/44 - at around 100kph I get about 24km/l
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 15, 2009, 01:12:58 pm
Bit of a silly question perhaps, but on the "open road" what sort of average cruising speed are you guys running, and at what revs? and at that cruising speed, do you feel that there's a little more oompf if you need it?

so:
cruising speed: X at X000 revs
top speed: X
gearing: front/back
mods:

just curious, as this is the one thing putting me off the DRZ
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 15, 2009, 01:29:09 pm
running 15/44 - at around 100kph I get about 24km/l

Letsgofishing..... I contacted Chris and will hopefully take my bike to him to get dyno'd
later in the month, when I'm in your side of the world..... Thanx for the help!!

If I can get to your 24km/l I'd be a happy man, gonna give me some much needed distance when
doing Namibia etc.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: edgy on October 15, 2009, 01:33:58 pm
Bit of a silly question perhaps, but on the "open road" what sort of average cruising speed are you guys running, and at what revs? and at that cruising speed, do you feel that there's a little more oompf if you need it?

so:
cruising speed: X at X000 revs
top speed: X
gearing: front/back
mods:

just curious, as this is the one thing putting me off the DRZ

Also have 15/44 gearing on the E,bike is happy travelling any distance at 120 km/h at the most!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 15, 2009, 01:49:44 pm
Bit of a silly question perhaps, but on the "open road" what sort of average cruising speed are you guys running, and at what revs? and at that cruising speed, do you feel that there's a little more oompf if you need it?

so:
cruising speed: X at X000 revs
top speed: X
gearing: front/back
mods:

just curious, as this is the one thing putting me off the DRZ

Also have 15/44 gearing on the E,bike is happy travelling any distance at 120 km/h at the most!

think mines on 16/41 atm top end is like 160 thoguh apparently that big 16 cuase my oil leak so gonna change to a 15
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 15, 2009, 01:55:47 pm
I had the SM model so it had the same carb as the S model - give or take 5 Hp less than the E.
Revs I cannot tell you as I had na Vapour installed and the is no stock rev counter.

cruising speed: 110 I found was most comfortable cruising at but that was before I fitted the screen - I did however find that there was very little virbration at this speed and the bike just felt the most comfortable at this speed when doing longer stretches. With the 14t front sprocket the comfortable long distance speed was closer to 100. At that speed there is till PLENTY left in the engine for overtaking, taking a gap, etc.
top speed: 160ish on the speedo / 150ish with 14t front sprocket
gearing: 15/41 and 14/41
mods: 3x3 Airbox mod, PAIR valve and Carb solenoid removed. Open pipe witjh stock header pipe Dynojet jet kit.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 15, 2009, 02:31:50 pm
Herms, Sidetrack and my self got that at 110km/h on our way to the bash last year.

But what ou Putco is saying is about right!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 15, 2009, 02:51:11 pm
Bit of a silly question perhaps, but on the "open road" what sort of average cruising speed are you guys running, and at what revs? and at that cruising speed, do you feel that there's a little more oompf if you need it?

so:
cruising speed: X at X000 revs
top speed: X
gearing: front/back
mods:

just curious, as this is the one thing putting me off the DRZ

Also have 15/44 gearing on the E,bike is happy travelling any distance at 120 km/h at the most!

+1
110-125 perfect!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 15, 2009, 02:53:21 pm
With 15 44 i sit easy at 130, but im very light.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 15, 2009, 04:00:04 pm
Anything higher than 140 and it will chow oil like a mini bus taxi, it's really at it's best at 100 - 120 km/h.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 15, 2009, 05:02:49 pm
Anything higher than 140 and it will chow oil like a mini bus taxi, it's really at it's best at 100 - 120 km/h.

dunno so much when I did the oil change on mine it hadnt lost anything
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 15, 2009, 09:16:04 pm
Anything higher than 140 and it will chow oil like a mini bus taxi, it's really at it's best at 100 - 120 km/h.

dunno so much when I did the oil change on mine it hadnt lost anything

I'm talking constant high speed on long stretches (200 km and more), the compression forces oil past rings and burns off.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 16, 2009, 08:18:11 pm
What do y'all think of this kit? Honest opinion?

http://www.ddgraphics.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/5_16/products_id/72?osCsid=c327a0b2dca685f6d44b5481bc65881c
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on October 16, 2009, 08:26:07 pm
What do y'all think of this kit? Honest opinion?

http://www.ddgraphics.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/5_16/products_id/72?osCsid=c327a0b2dca685f6d44b5481bc65881c

that's a pretty cool kit

how about this one  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 18, 2009, 03:26:01 pm
so mines borked again, have yet ti get the official prognosis though so far its looking like its seized?  O.o!?

Picked it up after having had a full service, shims; cam chain; oil change etc etc. started fine and rode fine, there was a "once per rotation" clanking type sound at idle... after about 5km's it stuttered as tough it had run out of fuel, I was most of the way through the tank so I didn't think any thing of it. Pulled the bike over turned it off, switch the fuel tap to res, and start her up. Wouldn't start! sounded like the battery was dead.

So after having trailered it to Andy's work shop we started testing stuff (tx Andy) hooked a battery pack up and tried again, got it to start though it wouldn't run by itself, wouldn't idle etc. Checked the oil and it was all full and fine. Eventually we measure the battery which was fine.... took the spark plug out and tried to get the motor to turn over without the plug in without any luck. So far it seems like something has cause it to seize.

So my question is what could cause it to seize? something that didn't make any god awful noises, was missed during a full service, the bike has had two oil changes since I have owned it and has sown any metal fillings. Guess I should wait and see what Lecap finds when he pulls it apart, just getting restless I guess.

=\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Disselboom on October 18, 2009, 03:37:45 pm
Jusso, I really think I need a DRZ, just not sure if I should sell or keep the GS.
Hmm, think I will keep it and do up a DRZ for the more technical rides.
Maybe two, because the wife's 650 is a bit heavy for her in the rough stuff.

There goes the budget....... ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 18, 2009, 05:30:05 pm
Het my bike DRZ saterdag oggend na Superbike solutions toe gevat in SomersetWes:

Julian daar het my bike uitgesort, baie profesioneel, ek beveel hulle erg aan! My bike was 'n paar keer op die dyno, en toe het hulle die main jet verander, kyk na die grafiek.

Die blou lyn is voor die rejet, notice die flat spot in die torque wat daar was! Die eintlike rede hoekom ek daar was, was om die air fuel mixture reg te stel(onderste graph) Dit was 18 op my bike en moet eintlik 13 wees, gelyk met die stippe lyn, hy het ook 'n spike gehad, wat nou uitgesort is. Het sommer 'n extra hp gegain!
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/Dynograph.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on October 18, 2009, 06:20:53 pm
with the flat spot gone, the front must lift alot easier  :thumleft:(caught you off guard abit when you pulled a wheelie after leaving the dyno shop)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 18, 2009, 06:22:07 pm
You were there? ....wot bike?

he he yep it lifts the front in 3rd even more easily now >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on October 18, 2009, 06:26:13 pm
KTM 950s, spoke to you in dyno room (my son was handing out chappies)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 18, 2009, 06:36:10 pm
Ah ok cool!

*If anyone has a E intake cam lying around....im looking for one*
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on October 18, 2009, 07:44:45 pm
so mines borked again, have yet ti get the official prognosis though so far its looking like its seized?  O.o!?

Picked it up after having had a full service, shims; cam chain; oil change etc etc. started fine and rode fine, there was a "once per rotation" clanking type sound at idle... after about 5km's it stuttered as tough it had run out of fuel, I was most of the way through the tank so I didn't think any thing of it. Pulled the bike over turned it off, switch the fuel tap to res, and start her up. Wouldn't start! sounded like the battery was dead.

So after having trailered it to Andy's work shop we started testing stuff (tx Andy) hooked a battery pack up and tried again, got it to start though it wouldn't run by itself, wouldn't idle etc. Checked the oil and it was all full and fine. Eventually we measure the battery which was fine.... took the spark plug out and tried to get the motor to turn over without the plug in without any luck. So far it seems like something has cause it to seize.

So my question is what could cause it to seize? something that didn't make any god awful noises, was missed during a full service, the bike has had two oil changes since I have owned it and has sown any metal fillings. Guess I should wait and see what Lecap finds when he pulls it apart, just getting restless I guess.

=\

Jeez...i feel for you mate! Not good.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 18, 2009, 10:26:06 pm
so mines borked again, have yet ti get the official prognosis though so far its looking like its seized?  O.o!?

Picked it up after having had a full service, shims; cam chain; oil change etc etc. started fine and rode fine, there was a "once per rotation" clanking type sound at idle... after about 5km's it stuttered as tough it had run out of fuel, I was most of the way through the tank so I didn't think any thing of it. Pulled the bike over turned it off, switch the fuel tap to res, and start her up. Wouldn't start! sounded like the battery was dead.

So after having trailered it to Andy's work shop we started testing stuff (tx Andy) hooked a battery pack up and tried again, got it to start though it wouldn't run by itself, wouldn't idle etc. Checked the oil and it was all full and fine. Eventually we measure the battery which was fine.... took the spark plug out and tried to get the motor to turn over without the plug in without any luck. So far it seems like something has cause it to seize.

So my question is what could cause it to seize? something that didn't make any god awful noises, was missed during a full service, the bike has had two oil changes since I have owned it and has sown any metal fillings. Guess I should wait and see what Lecap finds when he pulls it apart, just getting restless I guess.

=\

Jeez...i feel for you mate! Not good.

well me to tbh, atb. at this point I have to wait and see what LeCap finds, worst case senario and this is 4 out of 5..... 80% man!  might be timeto find a new hobby =\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 19, 2009, 07:04:00 am
Ah ok cool!

*If anyone has a E intake cam lying around....im looking for one*

THought yours was an E?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 19, 2009, 07:24:06 am
It is yes...looking for another intake cam
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 19, 2009, 12:22:11 pm
Do the head gaskets on the e and s differ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 19, 2009, 12:36:28 pm
Its actually the base gasket... (The one under the cylinder/barrel)

E has 1 gasket

S/SM has 3 layer gasket, basically 3x E-gaskets...

Therefore the higher stock compression for E model.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 19, 2009, 12:38:58 pm
Its actually the base gasket... (The one under the cylinder/barrel)

E has 1 gasket

S/SM has 3 layer gasket, basically 3x E-gaskets...

Therefore the higher stock compression for E model.

more gaskets (of the same thickness) will lower the compression not raise it

the fatter the gasket the lower the compression - the thinner the higher the compression  :thumleft:

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 19, 2009, 12:41:57 pm
Thats what I said?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 19, 2009, 12:42:16 pm
Its actually the base gasket... (The one under the cylinder/barrel)

E has 1 gasket

S/SM has 3 layer gasket, basically 3x E-gaskets...

Therefore the higher stock compression for E model.

more gaskets (of the same thickness) will lower the compression not raise it

the fatter the gasket the lower the compression - the thinner the higher the compression  :thumleft:



That's what the man said!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 19, 2009, 12:44:12 pm
Its actually the base gasket... (The one under the cylinder/barrel)

E has 1 gasket

S/SM has 3 layer gasket, basically 3x E-gaskets...

Therefore the higher stock compression for E model.

more gaskets (of the same thickness) will lower the compression not raise it

the fatter the gasket the lower the compression - the thinner the higher the compression  :thumleft:



That's what the man said!

sorry sorry sorry

i'm use to bus talking k@k so i just miss read what he said  :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 19, 2009, 12:44:56 pm
It is yes...looking for another intake cam

how come?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 19, 2009, 01:00:21 pm
They put the intake cam on the ex side..the cam lift etc is right and it works perfectly
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on October 19, 2009, 01:18:47 pm
ET, daardie bike was by Juian toe ek hom nog gehad het. Ek wonder hoekom hy hom nie die eerste keer reg gestel het nie...???
Het jy nou al die Taffy od gedoen?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 19, 2009, 01:22:03 pm
Het nog nie gedoen nie, ek wil nie met die carb neuk nie!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 19, 2009, 05:20:20 pm
. Ek wonder hoekom hy hom nie die eerste keer reg gestel het nie...???
[/quote]

At the time I tuned the bike when it belonged to you, we got to a perfect AFR, however when Etienne said he was experiencing a problem on it I offered him to bring the bike so I could check(f.o.c.) Checking the AFR it showed up lean on the pilot circuit which we rectified by changing the pilot and needle adjustment (NOT THE MAIN JET). This could be due to a couple of reasons...Exhaust needs repacking, air filter, valve clearances etc. Changing motor and weather conditions could greatly affect AFR.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 19, 2009, 05:27:09 pm
Does my exhuast need repacking? Or just that perforated pipe mod?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 19, 2009, 08:08:55 pm
Does my exhuast need repacking? Or just that perforated pipe mod?

Both!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 19, 2009, 09:37:13 pm
I just did that mod on the perforated pipe. Huge difference! Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 20, 2009, 08:11:12 am
I just did that mod on the perforated pipe. Huge difference! Thanks for the info!

Pleasure :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on October 20, 2009, 01:14:03 pm
Thanx for clarifying Wrench! Did not realize the poor little things are that sensitive to things-almost like a woman then!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 20, 2009, 05:39:44 pm
K&N Installed Thanks Mr Newguy!

Huge improvement! Bike stands up like nothing in 3rd gear now...wonder if the jetting needs changes?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 20, 2009, 07:46:01 pm
K&N Installed Thanks Mr Newguy!

Huge improvement! Bike stands up like nothing in 3rd gear now...wonder if the jetting needs changes?

Probably not, if so it would be minor changes but I could check.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 20, 2009, 07:51:05 pm
Hmmm you have pm sir :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on October 22, 2009, 06:54:23 pm
so mines borked again, have yet ti get the official prognosis though so far its looking like its seized?  O.o!?

Picked it up after having had a full service, shims; cam chain; oil change etc etc. started fine and rode fine, there was a "once per rotation" clanking type sound at idle... after about 5km's it stuttered as tough it had run out of fuel, I was most of the way through the tank so I didn't think any thing of it. Pulled the bike over turned it off, switch the fuel tap to res, and start her up. Wouldn't start! sounded like the battery was dead.

So after having trailered it to Andy's work shop we started testing stuff (tx Andy) hooked a battery pack up and tried again, got it to start though it wouldn't run by itself, wouldn't idle etc. Checked the oil and it was all full and fine. Eventually we measure the battery which was fine.... took the spark plug out and tried to get the motor to turn over without the plug in without any luck. So far it seems like something has cause it to seize.

So my question is what could cause it to seize? something that didn't make any god awful noises, was missed during a full service, the bike has had two oil changes since I have owned it and has sown any metal fillings. Guess I should wait and see what Lecap finds when he pulls it apart, just getting restless I guess.

=\


What was the outcome? At the service did you have a new cam chain fitted?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on October 22, 2009, 11:57:08 pm
They put the intake cam on the ex side..the cam lift etc is right and it works perfectly

Had a look at the cams and don't see the point. Lift is near identical (.15mm less on my sample :o ) but the intake cam is quite a bit narrower. The same effect can be achieved with a decent manifold & exhaust
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on October 22, 2009, 11:59:37 pm
Bit of a silly question perhaps, but on the "open road" what sort of average cruising speed are you guys running, and at what revs? and at that cruising speed, do you feel that there's a little more oompf if you need it?

so:
cruising speed: X at X000 revs
top speed: X
gearing: front/back
mods:

just curious, as this is the one thing putting me off the DRZ

Also have 15/44 gearing on the E,bike is happy travelling any distance at 120 km/h at the most!

think mines on 16/41 atm top end is like 160 thoguh apparently that big 16 cuase my oil leak so gonna change to a 15

The 16 eats the steel chain rail under the sprocket cover and shakes out the  sprocket cover bolts. The oil leak was caused by the thread stripped out of the countershaft sprocket nut.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on October 23, 2009, 12:08:42 am
K&N Installed Thanks Mr Newguy!

Huge improvement! Bike stands up like nothing in 3rd gear now...wonder if the jetting needs changes?

Probably not, if so it would be minor changes but I could check.

If you tinker with anything on the DRZ get the jetting right. The DRZ seems to be prone to detonation when run only slightly lean resulting in hammered valves and jammed rings. Welcome to come and have a look :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on October 23, 2009, 02:07:53 pm
All the more reason to have the bike Dyno Tuned, better safe than sorry  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 23, 2009, 02:38:55 pm
If i want to get the rebound on the rear shock quicker, do i turn the screw in or out?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 23, 2009, 03:14:14 pm
If i want to get the rebound on the rear shock quicker, do i turn the screw in or out?

I'm sure it's marked on the shock "+" for more/quicker "-" for less/slower
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 23, 2009, 03:26:39 pm
Not on the rear shock, geuss its the same as the front
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Stroke Her on October 23, 2009, 04:05:01 pm
RTFM...RTFM
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 23, 2009, 04:06:02 pm
IDHTFMWM!
Eks in die bakkie oppad weg
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 23, 2009, 04:27:31 pm
+ for more damping - for less damping, in other words  (lefty loosy, righty tighty)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 23, 2009, 04:36:00 pm


Had a look at the cams and don't see the point. Lift is near identical (.15mm less on my sample :o ) but the intake cam is quite a bit narrower. The same effect can be achieved with a decent manifold & exhaust
[/quote]

Agreed there is not much of a lift increase, but the duration and overlap is different. The more the overlap, the hotter the cam.
With this set up you have 37 degrees more than stock, but this number is obviously made smaller by running different lobe centres.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2009, 08:25:22 am
Thought I'd post some good news  :P

my new mirrors have arived, will post some pics when I collect them on monday
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 24, 2009, 09:31:37 am
What news on the motor?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2009, 09:49:26 am
What news on the motor?

still waiting offical news
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: KTM BIGGER on October 24, 2009, 10:33:17 am
What news on the motor?

still waiting offical news

how long could this take....
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2009, 10:34:11 am
What news on the motor?

still waiting offical news

how long could this take....
next week I guess
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Herms on October 26, 2009, 10:09:19 am
My bikes got 14500km on the clock. I wanna take it in for a dyno next week, but haven't done my valve clearances yet(normally 15000km).

Will it make a huge difference if I dyn0 before or after doing my valve clearances?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 26, 2009, 10:25:35 am
My bikes got 14500km on the clock. I wanna take it in for a dyno next week, but haven't done my valve clearances yet(normally 15000km).

Will it make a huge difference if I dyn0 before or after doing my valve clearances?

All I know is the closer the clearance the better it will perform but loose valves are happy valves  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 26, 2009, 08:29:05 pm
>:D

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00002Medium-1.jpg)


(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00009Medium-3.jpg)



(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00006Medium-2.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00004Medium-1.jpg)


(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00003Medium-2.jpg)


(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00008Medium-3.jpg)

I can see the fuel through the tank..big plus!
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00005Medium-1.jpg)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on October 26, 2009, 08:34:50 pm
Looking gooood :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: KTM BIGGER on October 26, 2009, 08:35:20 pm
so the parts arrived :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 26, 2009, 08:38:47 pm
so the parts arrived :)

They phoned first thing this morning..was ek bly! Shew!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on October 26, 2009, 08:44:08 pm
Dit lyk befonk!!!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 26, 2009, 08:49:45 pm
Thanks!

The tank is actually made for the S model, not my E, so I had to make some allu brackets that attach to the frame etc. took a couple of hours...but it works now! Only thing with 17l on the front...the front wheel is heavy to lift in 3rd gear :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on October 26, 2009, 08:59:06 pm
Nice ET !! Lyk befark! :thumleft:

Wanne gaan test ons by die quarry?? :pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on October 26, 2009, 09:10:45 pm
 Only thing with 17l on the front...the front wheel is heavy to lift in 3rd gear :D
[/quote]

With all the extra weight & wheeling it might be good thing to order a new clutch also  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Malibu on October 26, 2009, 09:28:17 pm
Felt I needed to take part on this tread sometime, and I have just been riding all over the place with my baby, and I LOVE her!  Once I've calmed down a bit, I'll read this thread from front to back, learnt a whole lot more, maybe I can qualify as a DRZ true owner... so, I shall return!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on October 26, 2009, 11:47:04 pm
What news on the motor?

still waiting offical news

how long could this take....

I'm officially closed this week and only attend to current affairs (revival of Operators Djebel XC and Newguy's DRZ)
Will have to drink more Whale Tale Ale for additional boxes to disassemble another DRZ ;D

Will probably fetch and have a look tomorrow.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: KTM BIGGER on October 27, 2009, 05:04:15 am
so the parts arrived :)

They phoned first thing this morning..was ek bly! Shew!

So will you buy international again????
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 27, 2009, 06:52:20 am
For sure
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 27, 2009, 08:45:07 am
Thanks!

The tank is actually made for the S model, not my E, so I had to make some allu brackets that attach to the frame etc. took a couple of hours...but it works now! Only thing with 17l on the front...the front wheel is heavy to lift in 3rd gear :D

...and why's that a problem?... ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 27, 2009, 08:50:28 am
I agree thats a problem...

Chicks dig that sort of shit...

Anyways, I never fill mine to the brim unless Im doing long distance...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on October 27, 2009, 09:18:26 am
Thanks!

The tank is actually made for the S model, not my E, so I had to make some allu brackets that attach to the frame etc. took a couple of hours...but it works now! Only thing with 17l on the front...the front wheel is heavy to lift in 3rd gear :D

We'll have to get you that cam then :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 27, 2009, 07:54:19 pm
Thanks!

The tank is actually made for the S model, not my E, so I had to make some allu brackets that attach to the frame etc. took a couple of hours...but it works now! Only thing with 17l on the front...the front wheel is heavy to lift in 3rd gear :D

We'll have to get you that cam then :ricky:

HeHe! You evil man! :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 27, 2009, 10:01:01 pm
Anyone know what a standard plastic tank OEM from suzuki costs?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 27, 2009, 11:28:40 pm
Anyone know what a standard plastic tank OEM from suzuki costs?

thought u just got or new one?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 27, 2009, 11:29:37 pm
Anyone know what a standard plastic tank OEM from suzuki costs?

thought u just got or new one?

I did yes
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 28, 2009, 06:47:17 am
Anyone know what a standard plastic tank OEM from suzuki costs?

In the region of "One Million Dollars", I am fairly certain of that.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 28, 2009, 11:20:59 pm
Got the folding mirrors today :thumleft:

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00006Medium-3.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00005Medium-2.jpg)

Jeez am I loving this bike!

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00002Medium-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 29, 2009, 11:14:58 am
Finaly took some pics of my new mirrors.

The size and shape is nice and they cost me R360, R250 for the mirrors and R110 for postage  :mwink:
The steam is cat Alu and finished nicely

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcQ5R70QI/AAAAAAAAKlA/Ufl-LlzM3lY/s640/SNC00122.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcRZ9KauI/AAAAAAAAKlI/tdMfkJ6oi7U/s640/SNC00123.jpg)

This is the bit I was after, the entire mirror can swivel on the joint. The idea being that I can turn them in while on dirt
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcSOXPXbI/AAAAAAAAKlQ/-npsGxo-uhc/s640/SNC00124.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcSgY76DI/AAAAAAAAKlY/bRGZaZLOhWY/s640/SNC00125.jpg)

At R250 for a set im well chufed
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_priest on October 29, 2009, 11:32:16 am
N[]vA those mirrors look bitching.

Can you do us a favour and find out what they weigh please?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 29, 2009, 11:36:25 am
N[]vA those mirrors look bitching.

Can you do us a favour and find out what they weigh please?
Will see if I have a gram scale at home
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 29, 2009, 11:38:55 am
We can put them on my bike so long just to see how they look... :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 29, 2009, 11:40:36 am
We can put them on my bike so long just to see how they look... :deal:
^.^ bastid!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 31, 2009, 11:05:29 pm
Front flip

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 02, 2009, 06:06:12 pm
Fuel filter and heavy duty fuel line installed

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00825Medium.jpg)

Fan project im busy with, will look like this

(http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=124b3ece1fc7718c)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on November 03, 2009, 07:48:42 am
ncie one  :thumleft:

where did you pickup the fuel filter?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 03, 2009, 07:56:12 am
Local bike shop R20
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on November 03, 2009, 08:09:39 am
Local bike shop R20

kewl :D

and hows the Z running otherwise?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 03, 2009, 08:58:01 am
Did an 8hour enduro ride sunday, including macasar..the bike did awesome, im still sore from the workout :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on November 03, 2009, 09:01:57 am
Did an 8hour enduro ride sunday, including macasar..the bike did awesome, im still sore from the workout :D

awesome :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Skipper on November 03, 2009, 09:24:30 am
Anyone want a DRZ 400 S service manual pdf (2000 - 2007) ? PM me or tell me how I can post it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 03, 2009, 04:46:23 pm
I have a 13 and 14t,new, sprockets to swop for a 15t
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 06, 2009, 07:54:21 am
How much fluid does the radiator roughly take?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Skipper on November 06, 2009, 08:13:27 am
Owners Manual says 1250ml
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on November 06, 2009, 08:15:10 am
Owners Manual says 1250ml

 :thumleft:

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 08, 2009, 04:37:56 pm
Installed a brushless industrial fan on each radiator, with a switch on the dash. Works nicely, pulls allot of air through the radiator.
I know where u can get a h4 hid kit for R850, they're nice and small..fits easily in the drz, just pm me and i'll tell u
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 09, 2009, 12:19:25 am
PICS  Et ? ? ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 09, 2009, 03:09:21 pm
When i want to take of the front wheel, i undo the nut...but then the shaft is still stuck, do i need to undo the otherside aswell? It uses a beeg allen key type thing...my bike didnt come with a toolkit..and i dont think such a big alen key exsists?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 09, 2009, 03:12:44 pm
Undo the pinch nuts. 2 either side of the wheel.

They clamp the axle down.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 09, 2009, 03:14:06 pm
Daai goed wat horisontaal op die shaft is?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 09, 2009, 03:19:54 pm
Nee, hulle kyk af. Deel van die fork bottom. 2 Boute elke kant, weerskante van die as... Hulle knyp basies die as vas.

No 33

http://www.langstonracing.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=433329&category=Motorcycles&make=SUZUKI&year=2005&fveh=10138
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 09, 2009, 07:40:59 pm
Het hom tx
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on November 10, 2009, 03:26:37 pm
I am thinking of replacing my main light with a HID light. have any of you Guys fitted a HID light ? Its a H4 right ? Will the heat be a problem ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 10, 2009, 08:25:58 pm
So where can you look for 17'' rims? Do scrap yards have bikes also?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 10, 2009, 08:55:59 pm
ET-Kan jy vir my 'n foto of 2 wys van dai fan wat jy op gesit het? ?  DANKIE!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 10, 2009, 10:43:24 pm
Hoekom? Jou bike het nie n radiator nie?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on November 11, 2009, 10:30:59 am
So where can you look for 17'' rims? Do scrap yards have bikes also?

I know the older gsxr rims work, there were a few other too. a set of motard wheels was on gumtree recently.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 11, 2009, 10:37:08 am
I know of the following rims which have been used before:

Suz GS 500
Suz Bandit 400/600
Suz GSXR 400
Suz RGV 250
Honda CBR 600 F

Requires quite a bit of machining work and customizing though.

Craigs in Maitland might have some 2nd hand rims available...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on November 11, 2009, 10:38:34 am
can tell you where my b oets bandit 400 is parked at night  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 11, 2009, 03:16:28 pm
Ek wil somer net check hoe lyk dit . . .LOL
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 11, 2009, 08:52:38 pm
DRZ in 2009 Dakar

(http://www.ivokastan.cz/foto/galerie_10/large/dakar_2007_prejimky-011.jpg)

(http://www.ivokastan.cz/foto/galerie_3/large/dakar_2004_025-20040508.jpg)

(http://www.ivokastan.cz/foto/galerie_3/large/dakar_2004_038-20040513.jpg)

WP rear shock and a yoshi!
(http://www.ivokastan.cz/foto/galerie_13/large/dakar_2007_etapa_c3-005.jpg)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 11, 2009, 09:56:58 pm
I read that the rubber type fork boots are not a good idea, they keep in moisture etc.

Sidetrack, what type of fork guards did u have?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on November 11, 2009, 11:22:39 pm
I read that the rubber type fork boots are not a good idea, they keep in moisture etc.

BS. They have drain holes.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on November 12, 2009, 12:05:46 am
I read that the rubber type fork boots are not a good idea, they keep in moisture etc.

Sidetrack, what type of fork guards did u have?

He had the hard plastic ones like on the motard - mounted at the top.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 12, 2009, 02:22:30 pm
I read that the rubber type fork boots are not a good idea, they keep in moisture etc.

BS. They have drain holes.

+10
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: DazBrahz on November 16, 2009, 02:10:47 pm
Finaly took some pics of my new mirrors.

The size and shape is nice and they cost me R360, R250 for the mirrors and R110 for postage  :mwink:
The steam is cat Alu and finished nicely

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcQ5R70QI/AAAAAAAAKlA/Ufl-LlzM3lY/s640/SNC00122.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcRZ9KauI/AAAAAAAAKlI/tdMfkJ6oi7U/s640/SNC00123.jpg)

This is the bit I was after, the entire mirror can swivel on the joint. The idea being that I can turn them in while on dirt
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcSOXPXbI/AAAAAAAAKlQ/-npsGxo-uhc/s640/SNC00124.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcSgY76DI/AAAAAAAAKlY/bRGZaZLOhWY/s640/SNC00125.jpg)

At R250 for a set im well chufed

Where did you order them from?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on November 16, 2009, 06:57:58 pm
Any place that sells bigboy scooters will be able to order them
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 16, 2009, 09:12:41 pm
Hey Nivea
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/765.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: DazBrahz on November 17, 2009, 07:37:47 am
Any place that sells bigboy scooters will be able to order them

Much appreciated. 
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 22, 2009, 08:42:54 pm
So can I run two 55w spots without keeling the bike?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: bonova on November 22, 2009, 09:19:23 pm
Installed a brushless industrial fan on each radiator, with a switch on the dash. Works nicely, pulls allot of air through the radiator.
I know where u can get a h4 hid kit for R850, they're nice and small..fits easily in the drz, just pm me and i'll tell u


wouldn't mind seeing that too Etienne - as in what fans did you use?
Neccesary to have 2? Or are they quite small? :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 22, 2009, 09:23:23 pm
Installed a brushless industrial fan on each radiator, with a switch on the dash. Works nicely, pulls allot of air through the radiator.


wouldn't mind seeing that too Etienne - as in what fans did you use?
Neccesary to have 2? Or are they quite small? :thumleft:

THey worked a charm in the quarry last weekend! When the riding became slow I switched them on, and the bike never went over 73c! I wired a little red LED into my dash to show when the fan is activated to.
You can see them when you join a ride again :D ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: bonova on November 22, 2009, 09:37:42 pm
funny guy  ;)   i've been sick, else i'd have been riding this whole w/e
positive thing is - spent alot of time on the forum cause couldn't leave the house really.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Onetime on November 24, 2009, 07:13:07 pm
Need some advice on lowering the suspention on DRZ  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 24, 2009, 08:16:59 pm
Lowering is for sissies . . .
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Onetime on November 24, 2009, 08:59:28 pm
Are you saying my wife is a sissie :(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 24, 2009, 09:05:59 pm
Fan:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00828Medium.jpg)

With tank:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00827Medium.jpg)

Switch on dash with light when fan is running:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00858Medium.jpg)

Added some spots:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00859Medium.jpg)

Normal headlight:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00855Medium.jpg)

With Spots:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00853Medium.jpg)

Redid the seat, made it broader also
Original:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00849Medium.jpg)

12mm foam:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00850Medium.jpg)

Weighing it down :D
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00851Medium.jpg)

Shaved and done, the cover isn't on in the picture, but it fitted with some persuasion
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00852Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Onetime on November 24, 2009, 09:44:01 pm
Very nice :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on November 25, 2009, 03:24:23 pm
Got a set of pirreli mt21s today...will put them on after the toy run :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 25, 2009, 05:08:46 pm
Baie nice Etienne!! Ek wil sien hoe lyk dit met die seat-cover op?

Ek moet self nog my DR-seat upgrade  . . . .
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 25, 2009, 06:01:53 pm
Widening the seat at the rear helps bum fatigue a lot!!!! ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on December 01, 2009, 05:18:59 pm
Vandat die Super Blinger nie meer bling nie, gaan hier maar niks aan nie? OF het die Super Blinger begin werk en moet nou self hoes?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 01, 2009, 10:14:42 pm
My bike hit 140hours today..I got it with 60hours on the 22nd of September 2009 :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on December 02, 2009, 07:55:50 am
Bliksem, maar daai spots gooi omtrent n klomp lig  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 03, 2009, 12:22:25 pm
So is the only zuki dealership the one in wineberg?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on December 03, 2009, 12:42:44 pm
ja, dit suck.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on December 04, 2009, 03:34:25 pm
Finaly took some pics of my new mirrors.

The size and shape is nice and they cost me R360, R250 for the mirrors and R110 for postage  :mwink:
The steam is cat Alu and finished nicely

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcQ5R70QI/AAAAAAAAKlA/Ufl-LlzM3lY/s640/SNC00122.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcRZ9KauI/AAAAAAAAKlI/tdMfkJ6oi7U/s640/SNC00123.jpg)

This is the bit I was after, the entire mirror can swivel on the joint. The idea being that I can turn them in while on dirt
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcSOXPXbI/AAAAAAAAKlQ/-npsGxo-uhc/s640/SNC00124.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/SulcSgY76DI/AAAAAAAAKlY/bRGZaZLOhWY/s640/SNC00125.jpg)

At R250 for a set im well chufed

Dude, I just enquired at Bigboy in Seapoint, the guy said they +- R600?

Where did you order from?

Btw they need some fiddling to make them fit. The bolts that they come with are too thin for the housing on the handlebar... On my bike at least...

Not the end of the world though. They look fkn cool!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on December 05, 2009, 11:59:50 am
the aprila place in town, euro bikes or something?

close to the shack
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 06, 2009, 09:16:01 pm
Looking at:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459108

The bike, even after all that money, is still only making 36nm torque or something..when my Z was stock it made about that much!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on December 07, 2009, 08:45:13 am
Thats not Nm you silly boy...  ::)  :biggrin:

The yanks are mos always different

They measure torque in pound-foot

Thats about 50Nm

And about 1 beer for me...  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on December 07, 2009, 08:48:14 am
Thats not Nm you silly boy...  ::)  :biggrin:

The yanks are mos always different

They measure torque in pound-foot

Thats about 50Nm

And about 1 beer for me...  :deal:

Yep and that bike makes 60Hp  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 07, 2009, 06:20:27 pm
I still have a 13+14t front sprocket to swap for one 15t..if anyone is interested
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 09, 2009, 06:09:56 pm
Had the suspension done today :thumleft: Will test it zees weekend
Seems a need new front wheel bearings (dirt rims) can I DIY it?

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00908Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: superfoxi on December 09, 2009, 06:13:03 pm
Had the suspension done today :thumleft: Will test it zees weekend
Seems a need new front wheel bearings (dirt rims) can I DIY it?

Yeeez, you can!  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 09, 2009, 06:17:13 pm
Had the suspension done today :thumleft: Will test it zees weekend
Seems a need new front wheel bearings (dirt rims) can I DIY it?

Yeeez, you can!  ;)

Thanks for the help Mike! That garage of yours is :drif: :drif: !
Im getting a quote tomorrow on the new suspension bushings also.

btw. I did the ride to Scarbourgh, that loop, then chapmans, and all those roads along the ocean, also the one up to the cable car. Thanks for the tip!
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00904Medium.jpg)

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00905Medium.jpg)

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00910Medium.jpg)

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC00911Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: superfoxi on December 10, 2009, 03:45:45 pm
Great pics! Thanx for the visit...
Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 10, 2009, 06:43:44 pm
Who in my area sells bearings ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MrBig on December 10, 2009, 08:15:01 pm
http://www.bearingman.co.za/pages/home.asp

BELLVILLE
Tel : 021- 945 1850
Fax : 021- 945 1842
10 Willow Road, Stikland

You need to know the exact size of the bearing required
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on December 11, 2009, 01:09:21 am
Just around the corner from bearing man is bearings international. Prices are also good.
Stick to FAG or NSK.
SKF too pricey.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on December 11, 2009, 08:25:48 am
LOL!!!

I have learned that the DRZ probably has no standard size bearing on it...

You can try from Bearing man and those places though.

I seem to recall you saying its front wheel bearings?

If you dont come right, phone Mario at Dirtrider, he can get you the All-Balls bearing kit.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 14, 2009, 07:04:42 pm
Jislaaik..seems my bike starting falling apart after the first hard ride!
I saw today after yesterday's ride, that, my seat bolt is missing, spotlight fell off, radiator shroud screw fell out, my one thumpertalk magneto cover thing fell off, and the exhuast heat shield!!!

I going to buy some shares in loctite :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Fenderbender on December 14, 2009, 07:29:07 pm
Jy wou mos n Suzuki koop  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 14, 2009, 07:31:44 pm
Jy wou mos n Suzuki koop  :peepwall:
Se die een wat nie eens 'n bike het nie :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Fenderbender on December 14, 2009, 07:52:01 pm
  ;D   Jinne , lyk my bad news travels fast . Daars 3  brands wat ek nie (weer ) op my werf sal toelaat nie , een van hulle is n Ford , die ander 2  is.................... nou wel ......................................  2 motorfietsbrands .    :pot:

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on December 14, 2009, 09:06:25 pm
  ;D   Jinne , lyk my bad news travels fast . Daars 3  brands wat ek nie (weer ) op my werf sal toelaat nie , een van hulle is n Ford , die ander 2  is.................... nou wel ......................................  2 motorfietsbrands  .    :pot:




:thefinger:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Fenderbender on December 14, 2009, 09:18:29 pm
Presies wat ek ook sÍ Martin , presies . :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on December 14, 2009, 10:06:44 pm
Jislaaik..seems my bike starting falling apart after the first hard ride!
I saw today after yesterday's ride, that, my seat bolt is missing, spotlight fell off, radiator shroud screw fell out, my one thumpertalk magneto cover thing fell off, and the exhuast heat shield!!!

I going to buy some shares in loctite :mwink:
The magneto cover is not enough RTV or the wrong type. Use the loctite brand, believe me even with a hammer and chisel you will struggle to get it off ! Only thread locker needed on the DRZ is for the countershaft nut and sprocket.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on December 15, 2009, 12:14:06 am
Jislaaik..seems my bike starting falling apart after the first hard ride!
I saw today after yesterday's ride, that, my seat bolt is missing, spotlight fell off, radiator shroud screw fell out, my one thumpertalk magneto cover thing fell off, and the exhuast heat shield!!!

I going to buy some shares in loctite :mwink:

Klink soos 'n KLR  :pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on December 15, 2009, 12:15:54 am
Jislaaik..seems my bike starting falling apart after the first hard ride!
I saw today after yesterday's ride, that, my seat bolt is missing, spotlight fell off, radiator shroud screw fell out, my one thumpertalk magneto cover thing fell off, and the exhuast heat shield!!!

I going to buy some shares in loctite :mwink:

Klink soos 'n KLR  :pot:

Jy moet ook solank dan begin opstock met die loctite :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on December 15, 2009, 02:54:37 am
Jislaaik..seems my bike starting falling apart after the first hard ride!
I saw today after yesterday's ride, that, my seat bolt is missing, spotlight fell off, radiator shroud screw fell out, my one thumpertalk magneto cover thing fell off, and the exhuast heat shield!!!

I going to buy some shares in loctite :mwink:

Klink soos 'n KLR  :pot:

Jy moet ook solank dan begin opstock met die loctite :mwink:

Miskien moet ons maar opstock op spaar pistons ook  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Fenderbender on December 15, 2009, 06:42:22 am
Julle moenie sleg voel nie , ek het nog nooit n fiets gehad wat sonder daardie blou wondermiddel kon funksioneer nie ,...............sÍ die een wat fietsloos is . ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on December 15, 2009, 08:51:08 pm
Nee wat Ettiene, gaan try die chinese bikes. Dan sal jy sien wat goed los rattle is, my DRZ hardloop so sag soos baba boudjies teen die vrou se XTG rammelkas!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Big E on December 24, 2009, 06:56:38 pm
Lekker mods, ek hou van d groter tank, dink dit sal my 1ste mod wees as ek my scootertjie kry
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: SUPERMOTO-GP on December 24, 2009, 10:44:17 pm
Lekker mods, ek hou van d groter tank, dink dit sal my 1ste mod wees as ek my scootertjie kry

Glo my Big E jy gaan dit benodig,die range is nie goed nie,ek begin ook self na een te kyk en aan te skaf.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Big E on December 26, 2009, 10:39:26 am
Lekker mods, ek hou van d groter tank, dink dit sal my 1ste mod wees as ek my scootertjie kry

Glo my Big E jy gaan dit benodig,die range is nie goed nie,ek begin ook self na een te kyk en aan te skaf.

Meskien moet ons saam koop en ons luck probeer met bulk-discount  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: SUPERMOTO-GP on December 26, 2009, 02:08:16 pm
Lekker mods, ek hou van d groter tank, dink dit sal my 1ste mod wees as ek my scootertjie kry

Glo my Big E jy gaan dit benodig,die range is nie goed nie,ek begin ook self na een te kyk en aan te skaf.

Meskien moet ons saam koop en ons luck probeer met bulk-discount  :biggrin:

Hopenlik sal ons discount kan kry ,maar ek moet op die oomblik eers geld bymekaar skraap en dan sal ek weer kyk om dit te koop
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Big E on December 26, 2009, 05:19:08 pm
Lekker mods, ek hou van d groter tank, dink dit sal my 1ste mod wees as ek my scootertjie kry

Glo my Big E jy gaan dit benodig,die range is nie goed nie,ek begin ook self na een te kyk en aan te skaf.

Meskien moet ons saam koop en ons luck probeer met bulk-discount  :biggrin:

Hopenlik sal ons discount kan kry ,maar ek moet op die oomblik eers geld bymekaar skraap en dan sal ek weer kyk om dit te koop
true...pay day is nog ver!
Meskien moet ek maar by pay-kit-forward gan kyk :-)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 07, 2010, 01:44:30 pm
Im itching to finnish my motard project, when i get back home i need to: get two new tyres, replace all the bearings and seals and source and fit a larger sprocket...the money pit strikes again!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Big E on January 07, 2010, 01:52:04 pm
Im itching to finnish my motard project, when i get back home i need to: get two new tyres, replace all the bearings and seals and source and fit a larger sprocket...the money pit strikes again!

het jy rims?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 07, 2010, 03:10:33 pm
Jaaaa :;
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 07, 2010, 03:58:17 pm
Im itching to finnish my motard project, when i get back home i need to: get two new tyres, replace all the bearings and seals and source and fit a larger sprocket...the money pit strikes again!
then we can have a motared day! :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 07, 2010, 04:01:56 pm
You, me and bus!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 07, 2010, 04:06:19 pm
You, me and bus!
lol I see a fuckup in the making :-p  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 07, 2010, 04:09:26 pm
Never!...... ;D
Whats the news on your bike?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 07, 2010, 04:12:41 pm
Never!...... ;D
Whats the news on your bike?
the German high commission are still busy on it

expected end of the week, well actualy like a month ago but hope for the end of the week
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 10, 2010, 05:37:55 pm
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/DSC01089Medium.jpg)
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01497/teeth_1497108c.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 10, 2010, 06:27:29 pm
lol though the two guys teeth are in a better state that yours :-p
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 10, 2010, 06:36:00 pm
Both the sprockets and the Bergies are missing two teeth :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 10, 2010, 06:40:56 pm
Both the sprockets and the Bergies are missing two teeth :D
yours are more worn
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 11, 2010, 08:17:32 pm
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would the rear sprocket nuts be in imperial?!?!?!?!?!?!?! an 11.5? The rest of the bike is in imperial! No I can't even change my own rear sprockets???? Dissapointing.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on January 12, 2010, 09:57:46 am
That's because some Bozo modified them with his ham fists and a cheap chinese 12mm open spanner edit: shifting spanner from a nice 12mm hex into some maybe 7/16" scrap metal
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 19, 2010, 07:58:55 pm
Has anyone done valve clearances themselves? Can it be causing the bike to struggle to start?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 19, 2010, 10:10:08 pm
Has anyone done valve clearances themselves? Can it be causing the bike to struggle to start?
Yes and yes.

Should be a check you do often, many times when they start to move they won't stop. If I remember it's .20 for the intakes and .25 for the exhaust.

Clean the area above head cover. Remove spark plug and find tdc, there is a mark on the flywheel and case that lines up in the hole on the left case. Cams should be in the 10 to 2 position. Measure with feeler gauge between cam lobes and buckets. Yoy should feel slight drag at above specs. If they are too tight the real fun begins  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 19, 2010, 10:20:21 pm
http://www.pegmonkey.com/howto/valve_adjust/drz400 (http://www.pegmonkey.com/howto/valve_adjust/drz400)

NB do not remove the big allen nut on the left side of the magneto cover. It's a piece of pewter crap which will strip ! Rather turn the motor by hand (back wheel).

Intake: 0.10~0.20mm (0.0039~0.0079 in)
Exhaust: 0.20~0.30mm (0.0079~0.0118 in)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on January 19, 2010, 10:21:08 pm
Has anyone done valve clearances themselves? Can it be causing the bike to struggle to start?

O moer, dis hoe myne begin het. dit kan valve clearance wees, (in my geval was die valve heeltema gewear)
dit kan ook wees dat jy n stator rewind kort (so R500 by krogh's in die Kaap), of dalk kort jy net n nuwe sparkplug.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 19, 2010, 10:29:13 pm
Ek het nou al 120ure/6 000km op die bike gesit en nog net 'n oil change, en toe later 'n oil en oil filter change gedoen. Dis seker maar tyd vir 'n goeie diens, die bike sukkel net om te start as hy 'n paar uur gestaan het. Gaan hom na Julian toe vat vir 'n major service
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on January 19, 2010, 10:32:55 pm
in daai geval dink ek is dit seker net n sparkplug. maar laat kyk maar na die clearances dan weet jy.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 19, 2010, 10:37:27 pm
Julle weet nie watse plug hy neem nie? Nie rerig lus om die tank af te haal om die kode te kry nie

http://www.pegmonkey.com/howto/valve_adjust/drz400 (http://www.pegmonkey.com/howto/valve_adjust/drz400)

NB do not remove the big allen nut on the left side of the magneto cover. It's a piece of pewter crap which will strip ! Rather turn the motor by hand (back wheel).

Intake: 0.10~0.20mm (0.0039~0.0079 in)
Exhaust: 0.20~0.30mm (0.0079~0.0118 in)


Thanks for the info :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on January 19, 2010, 10:41:47 pm
Jy sal moet double check maar as ek reg onthou was dit n CR8E
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 19, 2010, 10:45:10 pm
Jy sal moet double check maar as ek reg onthou was dit n CR8E

Cool thanks, benodig mens 'n funny tipe spanner om hom uit te haal soos met die XR? Of is dit straight forward? Ook, wat kan mens verwag om te betaal vir so plug?
Tx
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 20, 2010, 07:34:19 am
Die plug sit diep so jy kort n redelike lang plug spanner, ek het n tube spanner gemodify. Plug seker so R80 as ek moet skat.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on January 20, 2010, 07:59:47 am
I use one of these
(http://relimg.reliancemarine.com/H601.jpg)

think I got it from midas.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 20, 2010, 08:36:26 am
Bike didnt want to start this morning...fark, gonna do the plug this afternoon. U sure about the model nr?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on January 20, 2010, 08:41:29 am
Jy sal moet double check maar as ek reg onthou was dit n CR8E

Cool thanks, benodig mens 'n funny tipe spanner om hom uit te haal soos met die XR? Of is dit straight forward? Ook, wat kan mens verwag om te betaal vir so plug?
Tx

Dis 'n CR9E en ek het vir jou die standaard DRZ plugspanner wat deel is van die toolkit en die sparkplug kos R58 by Goeie Hoop onderdele in Brackenfell.
Ek het 'n spaarplug in my besit.
........en as jy my mooi vra dan sal ek die plugspanner en sparkplug vir jou bring  ;)


My DRZ se sparkplug was ook verlede week morsdood......... :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MrBig on January 20, 2010, 11:17:05 am
Ek het nou al 120ure/6 000km op die bike gesit en nog net 'n oil change, en toe later 'n oil en oil filter change gedoen. Dis seker maar tyd vir 'n goeie diens, die bike sukkel net om te start as hy 'n paar uur gestaan het. Gaan hom na Julian toe vat vir 'n major service

Stel sommer daai clutch lever se free-play terwyl jy besig is.  :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 20, 2010, 11:21:22 am
Ek het hom reeds so gestel! :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on January 20, 2010, 12:55:15 pm
start die bike al?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 20, 2010, 04:05:20 pm
Put a new plug in (Tx oppie)  and.....................nothing, still doesnt go
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Biesie on January 20, 2010, 04:28:32 pm
Put a new plug in (Tx oppie)  and.....................nothing, still doesnt go

Gaseez  :o :o
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on January 20, 2010, 04:31:04 pm
Put a new plug in (Tx oppie)  and.....................nothing, still doesnt go

Die ding het dan gestart toe ek daar was   :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 20, 2010, 05:12:51 pm
Just checked the valves, the ex side is in spec, but the other one is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out, there is ZERO clearance
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 20, 2010, 08:03:21 pm
Magnesium cover off
Motor at TDC:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_4806Medium.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_4809Medium.jpg)

No clearance on Intake side:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_4798Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MrBig on January 21, 2010, 07:18:59 am

Motor at TDC:


You very certain it's on the correct stroke?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 21, 2010, 07:23:43 am
Yep, there is clearance on the ex side, if its on the wrong stroke there will be clearance on none of them
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 24, 2010, 08:40:37 pm
Snapped a throttle cable today...damn...luckily there's two
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on January 24, 2010, 09:36:56 pm
Snapped a throttle cable today...damn...luckily there's two

That only helps if it the return cable that snaps.  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 24, 2010, 09:43:05 pm
Luckily it was the return cable :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 25, 2010, 07:30:19 pm
While the tank was off, I lifted the needle by 1 notch (Julians advice) now, with the pipe, jetting and K&N, and the valves in spec, the bike is flying! On pullaway the front wont stay down in the 1st 2 gear...yeehaa :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on January 26, 2010, 04:44:31 am
I think its time we ductape 2 potato bags to you...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Skipper on January 26, 2010, 07:26:36 am
I need some advice on getting my 2000 E through road test. They say I need a bright and dim headlight, but the globe in mine only has 1 filament and its only on when switch is on bright. Can I get a dual filament for a 2000 E? The switch has bright/dim and there are extra wires. Its the 2 prong (not 3 prong or the big expensive dual filament from 2001 E with the 3 'tabs' at the base of the bulb)

Any advice will be appreciated.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 27, 2010, 09:27:55 pm
I think its time we ductape 2 potato bags to you...
Weight gaining 101
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on January 27, 2010, 09:41:40 pm
Jy sal moet double check maar as ek reg onthou was dit n CR8E

Ek het nou my huiswerk gedoen............jy is reg dit is CR8E

Die CR9E is bedoel vir kouer toestande.

Die 2 lyk egter presies identies en mens kan geen verskil agterkom in die werking
daarvan nie.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 02, 2010, 11:26:25 pm
Got it off, is this shaft supposed to be only half filled with bearings???
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_4936Large.jpg)

(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/IMG_4934Large.jpg)   
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: buzzlightyear on February 02, 2010, 11:34:26 pm
You mean the actual balls, it looks suspicious, but could be ok, dunno. Don't high speed/high performance bearings have less balls?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 02, 2010, 11:42:09 pm
The balls yes 
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on February 03, 2010, 07:54:41 am
Did you check in the bottom of the engine?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on February 03, 2010, 08:53:24 am
THat doesn't look right to me  ???
Have you checked the manual?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 09:17:57 am
The cage has collapsed. The bearing is fubar. Remove top end, split crankcase, replace bearing.
Check your oil pumps carefully for damage. Lots of the bits of a collapsing cage fit through the strainers and ruin the oil pumps.
The pressure pump comes as a whole but the scavenger you will have to get and replace the rotor and ignore housing damage as it runs in the crankcase ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 09:19:30 am
So I got my drz back and am slowly running it in, I reckon another 80 odd km's and I'll change the oil.

When I first picked it up yesterday after the engine rebuild it was very quiet, in the last 170 km's it has developed what I can only describe as a ticking sound that seems to be coming from the right top'ish side of the engine (ACCT) comes to mind, though I was told it was fine. the higher the rpm's the higher the frequency of the tick.

Ideas?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on February 03, 2010, 09:22:23 am

Ideas?


yes, but none that you will like  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on February 03, 2010, 09:23:58 am
Valves are probably settling, clearances have grown a bit and is a bit noisy now. you checking the clearances with the run in service?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 09:24:45 am
Check valve clearances. Don't see why anything should have changed as it was head off - head on. But better check.

Wes, stop being so fcuking negative  :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 09:30:59 am
wes: go play with your rim tape  :lamer:

LeCap: could the valve clearances be an issue after 170km's since you checked them when you rebuilt it?

Newguy: that was the plan though only intended to change the oil at like 200-250 km's
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 09:32:59 am
Checked clearances, they were as adjusted after your off, should be, only six kilometres in between.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 09:33:50 am
Checked clearances, they were as adjusted after your off, should be, only six kilometres in between.
didnt answer my question, can they be out of spec after 170km's?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 09:37:52 am
Shouldn't. My trust in DRZ engines is a bit shattered. Just fixed botttom end and now the top is starting to rattle? :o

Best to have a look.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 09:41:16 am
based on location/sound my first guess is the chain tensioner
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 09:53:37 am
Don't think it's the tensioner. Was fine when fitted, took up chain slack as by design. Can't really break (unlike the older torsion spring type).
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 09:56:46 am
Don't think it's the tensioner. Was fine when fitted, took up chain slack as by design. Can't really break (unlike the older torsion spring type).
Ok so what should I be looking for then other than valve clearance?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 10:01:20 am
Anything up there. Decompressor mechanism, cam wear, or check that the adjustable sprocket is not coming off that freakin' performance cam :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Eisbein on February 03, 2010, 10:08:05 am
Excuse my ignorance here - but doesn't a engine rebuild go along with checking the other things that is part of the engine ?

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on February 03, 2010, 10:22:35 am
Excuse my ignorance here - but doesn't a engine rebuild go along with checking the other things that is part of the engine ?



My first thought too...?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 10:26:58 am
Checked clearances, they were as adjusted after your off, should be, only six kilometres in between.
Wait up, does that mean you didnt check the clearance after the engine seized? or you did and they were fine
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on February 03, 2010, 11:13:01 am
Ticking? or slapping?

Could it be the valves kissing the piston or the cam chain thats a little stretched?

If there is a new chain on, then there shouldnt be problem.



Niv, Id check the valves when you dump the oil to just be sure.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 11:16:22 am
I will check them when I do the oil change.  :thumleft:

Its a ticking not a slapping, atm I feel that LeCap has to take a look at it. it's to soon after  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 11:32:24 am
Excuse my ignorance here - but doesn't a engine rebuild go along with checking the other things that is part of the engine ?
Nothing in the head was wrong. No wear on journals and cam lobes: The valve clearances were a bit too tight after Jan's off, adjusted back then, engine blew, rebuild, checked on Monday after fitting the cams and still ok.
Damage to the engine was in the bottom end primarily with most bearings destroyed by debris and big end seized, also seized piston also possibly caused by all the crap flying around the crankcase.

No use speculating about a top end noise, best is to open up and check.

You can not possibly disassemble every component and measure everything. With some parts / problems there is also little if any way to tell if something packs up tomorrow. If you rebuild an engine you make informed decisions like cams & journals look good, you assemble without measuring journal clearance as a wearing journal or cam lobe would give itself away by optical signs.
Alternatively you throw everything away and buy everything new. Ideally the whole bike which will come with warranty. Then you do not have to take any risk with a rebuild.

The racing cam in Jan's bike was not fitted by me nor do I have or could I find any information with regards to it. Took it out & put it back as it was.

The engine was race modified at least once. It was rebuild once already too. Either the engineer tuning the bike or the previous owner lied massively about the modifications done :o There is fancy mods some guys do which open more than one can of worms. Example: Plane head to increase compresion or fit hotter cam, clear valves by increasing size of valve pockets. Problem starts if you replace the piston :o This is my biggest fear although it should have made a noise from km1.

The timing chain seemed to be fairly new and was not replaced, the tensioner has plenty of adjustment left.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 11:37:31 am
I noticed the noise within the first 10 - 20km's though it seem allot louder now, might just be me paying attention to it.

When would you be able to open it up and check? also whats the time span of checking like that as I will need to wait around
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 03, 2010, 11:42:36 am
Best to check asap. Does not take too long but I do not have shims for the DRZ in stock. Means it takes time to fetch the shims if the valve clearance is too much.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 11:45:45 am
Best to check asap. Does not take too long but I do not have shims for the DRZ in stock. Means it takes time to fetch the shims if the valve clearance is too much.
Will see if I can take it past ktm or andy's work shop and check the clearance and give you a call if they are fine I will come through to you after.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Andy660 on February 03, 2010, 12:57:31 pm
N[]vA , if that was a racemotor before . does it have a high lift cam in it , and was the standard piston not pocketed deeper for the cam perhaps ?

I dont want to worry you  , but perhaps you should get the petrol tank of , check the tappet clearences first , if all is well , we use the helmet cam to look down into the barrel , and check that the valves arent coming in contact with the piston.

This is all , if the cams are race high lift jobs , of course ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 03, 2010, 01:02:11 pm
That bike is supposed to have a stage 1 inlet hotcam, which should be plug & play, no additional work required when fitting it.  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on February 03, 2010, 02:01:47 pm
Hot cams are noisy, but if you had the cam in before & the noise is more than before then i would check it out ASAP.
(If the motor was built up from the bottom all should have been checked during the build)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 02:01:59 pm
That bike is supposed to have a stage 1 inlet hotcam, which should be plug & play, no additional work required when fitting it.  ???
It was supposed to have allot of things though

N[]vA , if that was a racemotor before . does it have a high lift cam in it , and was the standard piston not pocketed deeper for the cam perhaps ?

I dont want to worry you  , but perhaps you should get the petrol tank of , check the tappet clearences first , if all is well , we use the helmet cam to look down into the barrel , and check that the valves arent coming in contact with the piston.

This is all , if the cams are race high lift jobs , of course ?
LeCap did the work as such I am going to take it to him and he must tell me whats going on
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 03, 2010, 02:39:06 pm
Well im on my way to LeCap. will update later
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on February 03, 2010, 04:03:59 pm
DRZ motors are all noisy by nature (lots of ticking in mine). When the timing chain starts to go you will definetly hear it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on February 03, 2010, 05:24:03 pm
A build that took so so long should be meticulous, all the best mate. :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 04, 2010, 07:00:10 am
k so I took it through to LeCap and he took it for a spin. conclusion is that the sound isn't any thing with the engine, which is a hell of a relief  :P

So it had to of been something vibrating at a crazy high frequency starting at 3-4k rpm and building till about 6k and then quietening a lil bit at 7k. did an oil change last night and after started stripping one thing off the bike at a time and riding it down the road and back, like 1.5k, until I found something that was vibrating  :patch:

was running up and down till late and eventually got gatvol and pulled off every thing I could, plastics, mirrors, hand guards etc etc..... turns out that's it's the new mirrors (which has been the only addition to the bike  ::) ) the left hand mirrors bolt is like 1 or maybe 1/2 a mm to long and it sitting on a bolt below it and some how causing this insane vibration. so today I am going to shorten the bolt and find a thick rubber washer to put under the mirror and will see if it is gone  :laughing4:

I will be over the moon if its something that stupid  :laughing4:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on February 04, 2010, 07:10:56 am
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on February 04, 2010, 07:25:55 am
My motor was also noisy - cam chain and tensioner replaced and it sounds just the same!
Serviced every 5k and goes like stink!
I know this isn't very helpful  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on February 04, 2010, 07:39:19 am
Serviced every 5000km?

are you serious?

I would think with only 1.8l oil I would service it every 3000km at the latest.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Eisbein on February 04, 2010, 09:29:16 am
Serviced every 5000km?

are you serious?

I would think with only 1.8l oil I would service it every 3000km at the latest.

I think LGF rides it more dualsport than enduro...

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MrBig on February 04, 2010, 09:42:54 am
My XR4 takes 1.8L with filter change (also has an oil cooler) with the recommended oil change interval 1000 miles
I do a change at least every 1600-1800km
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on February 04, 2010, 09:52:29 am
My XR4 takes 1.8L with filter change (also has an oil cooler) with the recommended oil change interval 1000 miles
I do a change at least every 1600-1800km

the dakar takes 2.4 litres i think and its replaced every 10000km

all depends on the specific engine and the usage of the engine

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2010, 09:58:50 am
I never do more than 2000km with a load of oil.

Its a small price to pay for the peace of mind...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 04, 2010, 10:10:41 am
Oil every 2k, oil and filter every the 2k after that
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 04, 2010, 10:23:37 am
Oil every 2k, oil and filter every the 2k after that

At the cost of an oil filter (R45) I am doing them every 2k km's with the oil
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 04, 2010, 10:46:06 am
A build that took so so long should be meticulous, all the best mate. :thumleft:

Should it include testing the vibration behavior of aftermarket mirrors ???  ::)

That bike is supposed to have a stage 1 inlet hotcam, which should be plug & play, no additional work required when fitting it.  ???
I would not trust this or anything else to be given on an engine where some moegoe forgot a number of quite essential parts like thrust washers and retainers.
Increasing compression by skimming off the head a bit gets you to "piston desmodromic" quite quickly. This is countered by enlarging the valve pockets in the piston. If you fit an OEM or like OEM generic piston you quickly get too little clearance between piston and valves. Note that a piston contacting a valve will in most cases NOT be noticable by turning the engine over but will only occur when dynamic effects come into play under certain load conditons in the running engine.
Similar problems can also occur if a cam shaft like the stage 1 Hotcam with adjustable timing chain sprocket is fitted & adjusted out of spec.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 04, 2010, 01:00:40 pm
Ok so I shortened the bolt and used a rubber thing as a washer and its not the mirror, unless the glass part of the mirror is vibrating in its mount but it doesn't appear to be o.O

back to stripping things then I guess
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2010, 01:46:54 pm
Ok so I shortened the bolt and used a rubber thing as a washer and its not the mirror, unless the glass part of the mirror is vibrating in its mount but it doesn't appear to be o.O

back to stripping things then I guess


I had the exact same thing with mine, and it WAS the mirror part itself rattling inside the housing. Try riding and clamping the mirror with your one hand and see if it goes away.

I fixed mine by pumping clear silicone into the gaps between the glass and the housing.

Also check tank mounts... And possibly passenger footpegs if they are still there.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on February 04, 2010, 01:47:22 pm
Should it include testing the vibration behavior of aftermarket mirrors ???  ::)

 :laughing4:It should include a test ride to see that everytjing is 100%

N[]vA take the mirror off & then take it for a ride,happy :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 04, 2010, 01:48:27 pm
Ok so I shortened the bolt and used a rubber thing as a washer and its not the mirror, unless the glass part of the mirror is vibrating in its mount but it doesn't appear to be o.O

back to stripping things then I guess


I had the exact same thing with mine, and it WAS the mirror part itself rattling inside the housing. Try riding and clamping the mirror with your one hand and see if it goes away.

I fixed mine by pumping clear silicone into the gaps between the glass and the housing.

Also check tank mounts... And possibly passenger footpegs if they are still there.

hurmf tank mounts might be a plan
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2010, 01:55:57 pm
Tank mounts, meaning the rubber bungs/bumpers under the tank where it rests on the frame, at the U-brackets.

 :thumleft:

Also check the plastic fins in front of the radiator...

Good luck... Keep us posted.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on February 04, 2010, 03:42:17 pm
Serviced every 5000km?

are you serious?

I would think with only 1.8l oil I would service it every 3000km at the latest.

That's a SERVICE - check valves,  clutch, etc etc
The oil & filter I change every 3000k
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 04, 2010, 03:57:31 pm
Tank mounts, meaning the rubber bungs/bumpers under the tank where it rests on the frame, at the U-brackets.

 :thumleft:

Also check the plastic fins in front of the radiator...

Good luck... Keep us posted.
Tired all three no luck
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2010, 04:07:52 pm
In yer head...?  :P

Shit man, then I dont know...  ???

Oh ya, my handlebars were also a little loose and rattled quite a bit at mid-range... Tighten the clamps...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on February 04, 2010, 04:12:44 pm
In yer head...?  :P

a few loose screws ?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: buzzlightyear on February 04, 2010, 04:19:40 pm
A lost bolt/nut/whatever inside the exhaust pipe perhaps?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 04, 2010, 04:21:36 pm
A lost bolt/nut/whatever inside the exhaust pipe perhaps?
hurmf!

ok well I think if I cant find it any where else that pipe is coming off
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2010, 04:25:15 pm
A lost bolt/nut/whatever inside the exhaust pipe perhaps?
hurmf!

ok well I think if I cant find it any where else that pipe is coming off

But surely then it would rattle also when you rev it at stand still?

Ai Nova, Im away the weekend, but back on Sunday. If you still havent found it by then, you can pop around and I will see if I can help.

Keep in touch...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on February 04, 2010, 09:31:49 pm



The racing cam in Jan's bike was not fitted by me nor do I have or could I find any information with regards to it. Took it out & put it back as it was.




Check the cam timing at stock, the Hotcam would use the same numbers 107.5 degrees Lc's at 1mm of lift. Also check piston to valve clearance, intake minimum .95mm, exhaust 1.1mm.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on February 04, 2010, 10:16:49 pm



The racing cam in Jan's bike was not fitted by me nor do I have or could I find any information with regards to it. Took it out & put it back as it was.




Check the cam timing at stock, the Hotcam would use the same numbers 107.5 degrees Lc's at 1mm of lift. Also check piston to valve clearance, intake minimum .95mm, exhaust 1.1mm.

how do you check the piston to valve clearances ???

the only method i know is the clay on the piston etc etc - but that was used back in the olden days with old big block v8's and stuff ???

not sure if that is still the way they do it these days ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on February 04, 2010, 10:37:16 pm

how do you check the piston to valve clearances ???

the only method i know is the clay on the piston etc etc - but that was used back in the olden days with old big block v8's and stuff ???

not sure if that is still the way they do it these days ???

Using the clay is on way of doing it...lots of work though for too many inaccuracies. To check the exhaust clearances, turn the motor to 10 degrees BTDC, set up dial gauge on the follower, compress the valve spring and take your measurement, intake valve, use the same method and 10 degrees ATDC.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 05, 2010, 01:21:57 am
Should it include testing the vibration behavior of aftermarket mirrors ???  ::)

 :laughing4: It should include a test ride to see that everytjing is 100%


Every KLR rattles more ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 05, 2010, 10:52:39 am
Ok kewl well the rattle I found, there was a stripped thread and missing bolt on the left mirror/clutch mount which I assume I never came across because the previous mirrors were about 1/5th the weight. Will go replace the bolt & nut today.

Went past Suzuki south today to have them listen to the tapping sound the engine makes and they reckon its the shims/valves and the clutch basket might have a small rattle. Explained I was planning to do another 200 odd km's and change the oil again as well as check the clearances and they said that's perfect.

LeCap I assume I will bring it back to you for the first clearance check, or is your job warranty not an issue if I or some one else does it?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 06, 2010, 12:14:52 pm
You can check the valve clearances yourself. It's quick and easy. As long as it gets done.
All valves were set just below max. allowed clearance and should still be there a few hundred kms later.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 07, 2010, 11:09:46 am
k will go buy a fealer guage on monday and check em out
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 08, 2010, 09:18:40 pm
arg!

got the feeler gauge and every thing I needed.... well so I thought.

Just realized I need a special tool to remove the spark plug, any one know where I can get one or what will substitute?

Think I am going to have to run past LeCap tomorrow as this ticking sound isn't getting any better, im sure its getting worse o.O
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Oros on February 08, 2010, 09:22:13 pm
Why doesn't he check the valve clearances for you?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 08, 2010, 09:23:07 pm
Why doesn't he check the valve clearances for you?
I'll ask
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on February 08, 2010, 09:29:04 pm
Just realized I need a special tool to remove the spark plug, any one know where I can get one or what will substitute?

I use one of these from midas
(http://relimg.reliancemarine.com/H601.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 08, 2010, 09:31:53 pm
kewl thanks, will swing past tommorrow and see what they have
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 12:43:41 pm
Any idea where Ic an buy a 39T rear sprocket localy or will I need to have one made?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 02:52:56 pm
Just realized I need a special tool to remove the spark plug, any one know where I can get one or what will substitute?

I use one of these from midas
(http://relimg.reliancemarine.com/H601.jpg)

got the same one at midas for R18 :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 07:34:22 pm
Kewl so did the clearance check and its all close enough at this point

exhaust is 0.25mm (bang in the middle where it should be)
intake is 0.20 (right at the far end where it should be)

so I will ride it till the weekend, change the oil and filter and check them again. if the intake clearance grows at all its time to change the shims if it closes or is the same then its kewl.

I think I found the tapping rattle sound too, the auto decompression pin has a lot of play in it, both the large pin and the small are still there which is great. gonna start looking into solutions for that and untill I do I guess I will live with it
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 09, 2010, 07:35:22 pm
Doesn't the hot cams have other clearances?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_BOBNOB on February 09, 2010, 07:55:19 pm
so I will ride it till the weekend, change the oil and filter and check them again. if the intake clearance grows at all its time to change the shims if it closes or is the same then its kewl.

the term "anal retentive" comes to mind ???

dude drink a chill pill and just enjoy the bike - i have never heard of checking clearances twice in 4 days ???

stop poking around and just ride the bike  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 09:05:31 pm
so I will ride it till the weekend, change the oil and filter and check them again. if the intake clearance grows at all its time to change the shims if it closes or is the same then its kewl.

the term "anal retentive" comes to mind ???

dude drink a chill pill and just enjoy the bike - i have never heard of checking clearances twice in 4 days ???

stop poking around and just ride the bike  :ricky:
no






 :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 09:05:47 pm
Doesn't the hot cams have other clearances?
hurmf I better check that though I dont think so
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 09, 2010, 09:06:51 pm
The E standar valve clearance is like
20-30 ex
10-20 in
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 09:13:40 pm
The E standar valve clearance is like
20-30 ex
10-20 in
same as mine.


hurmf the hotcams manual states 0.10 - 0.15mm for the intake, will have a chat with the thumper talk boys
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 09, 2010, 09:18:09 pm
Kewl so did the clearance check and its all close enough at this point

exhaust is 0.25mm (bang in the middle where it should be)
intake is 0.20 (right at the far end where it should be)

hurmf the hotcams manual states 0.10 - 0.15mm for the intake, will have a chat with the thumper talk boys

So your intake's out?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 09, 2010, 09:24:26 pm
Kewl so did the clearance check and its all close enough at this point

exhaust is 0.25mm (bang in the middle where it should be)
intake is 0.20 (right at the far end where it should be)

hurmf the hotcams manual states 0.10 - 0.15mm for the intake, will have a chat with the thumper talk boys

So your intake's out?
It would seem so.

Dont think LeCap knew about the diff spec, though wouldnt have expected him to.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on February 10, 2010, 07:44:15 am
Kewl so did the clearance check and its all close enough at this point

exhaust is 0.25mm (bang in the middle where it should be)
intake is 0.20 (right at the far end where it should be)

hurmf the hotcams manual states 0.10 - 0.15mm for the intake, will have a chat with the thumper talk boys

So your intake's out?
It would seem so.

Dont think LeCap knew about the diff spec, though wouldnt have expected him to.

I would put the clearances at 0.12 :thumleft:, you should also know that the Hotcam, any aftermarket or reprofiled cams are generally noisier because of a steeper ramp and shallower base circle.....Don't stress to much about rattle as long as your clearances are correct.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 10, 2010, 08:54:32 am
Awesome thanks  :thumleft:

as I understand it the OEM shims come in 0.5mm increments and the aftermarket (like hotcam) ones come in 0.2mm increments. any idea where I can get aftermarket shims locally?


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on February 10, 2010, 09:53:05 am
Awesome thanks  :thumleft:

as I understand it the OEM shims come in 0.5mm increments and the aftermarket (like hotcam) ones come in 0.2mm increments. any idea where I can get aftermarket shims locally?



I  could help
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 10, 2010, 09:59:28 am
Awesome thanks  :thumleft:

as I understand it the OEM shims come in 0.5mm increments and the aftermarket (like hotcam) ones come in 0.2mm increments. any idea where I can get aftermarket shims locally?



I  could help
you have a pm :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on February 13, 2010, 03:15:53 pm
This is where I set my suspension at, its great for sand

Suspension

Zero-ed
Compression 10
Rebound 9
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on February 15, 2010, 11:24:46 am
check the sag first.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 15, 2010, 12:06:05 pm
never ever ever ever try remove a motard tire by hand!  :BangHead:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on February 15, 2010, 12:25:43 pm
its tubless, you have to break the bead, either with a machine or another bikes kickstand :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 15, 2010, 12:42:59 pm
its tubless, you have to break the bead, either with a machine or another bikes kickstand :)
Took me ages to get one side off, after that I was gatvol and decided to take it to tracmac
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 15, 2010, 01:56:38 pm
Its not tubeles... But you can have them made to be tubeless...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 17, 2010, 02:32:26 pm
just FYI: the WR 250/400/426/450 1998-04 Performance Insert [PMB-01-5500] fits into the Yoshi rs-2 100% and makes it much much quieter

(http://www.advrider.co.za/images/WR_insert.jpg)

http://www.advrider.co.za (http://www.advrider.co.za) sells them aka topbbox
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 17, 2010, 02:36:37 pm
Too quiet...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 17, 2010, 02:39:12 pm
Too quiet...  :biggrin:
phft I could even survive a hangover ride now. I like it, still has a nice enough bark when you open up
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on February 17, 2010, 05:39:02 pm
Easier to listen for the first signs of engine disintegration? :evil6:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 17, 2010, 10:38:05 pm
Easier to listen for the first signs of engine disintegration? :evil6:
On that note its still as ticky as ever
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JIMBO on February 18, 2010, 02:41:37 pm
Hello DRZers,

Perhaps you can help.  I used to run a 16 tooth counter sprocket on my SUZUKI DR350, but can now not find one.  I read somewhere that the DRZ 400 takes the same C.S. sprocket and 16T is an option.   Is that the case??  Do you guys run 16T, and if so where do you get them?? 

Thank you.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on March 01, 2010, 07:07:48 am
Can you guys help? When is it time to change shims on a DRZ's valves? Mine has 44000km on the clock. I checked the clearances on the weekend, the inlet clearance is 0.1mm (Should be 0.1mm-0.2mm) and outlet valve clearance is also still in spec.

Thanks
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 01, 2010, 07:10:24 am
then its fine, only change shims to change the clearance
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 01, 2010, 10:05:24 am
Can you guys help? When is it time to change shims on a DRZ's valves? Mine has 44000km on the clock. I checked the clearances on the weekend, the inlet clearance is 0.1mm (Should be 0.1mm-0.2mm) and outlet valve clearance is also still in spec.

Thanks

What 44000 km and you have not had a engine failure yet, this can't be  ;) :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 01, 2010, 10:11:44 am
Slapped my knobblies onto the SM on friday and took it out for a burn in the dirt on sunday, suspension set down to standard for the sm and it was a blast :D

will post some pics when I get a chance.

Also had Wrench tune the bike on Friday, running very well now :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on March 01, 2010, 10:43:14 am
Can you guys help? When is it time to change shims on a DRZ's valves? Mine has 44000km on the clock. I checked the clearances on the weekend, the inlet clearance is 0.1mm (Should be 0.1mm-0.2mm) and outlet valve clearance is also still in spec.

Thanks

What 44000 km and you have not had a engine failure yet, this can't be  ;) :biggrin:

come come, where da new bike pics??   :lamer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on March 01, 2010, 12:15:22 pm
Can you guys help? When is it time to change shims on a DRZ's valves? Mine has 44000km on the clock. I checked the clearances on the weekend, the inlet clearance is 0.1mm (Should be 0.1mm-0.2mm) and outlet valve clearance is also still in spec.

Thanks

What 44000 km and you have not had a engine failure yet, this can't be  ;) :biggrin:

come come, where da new bike pics??   :lamer:
Yip, I just try and maintain as well as I can. 2005 Model (Change oil and filters every 3000km. I commute with the bike so I don't stress the motor :thumleft:. The only failure I had to date is the stator on the alternator - Had it re-wired and now 100%. There are some pics on the pooratech thread - shows my home made rack and panniers :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 01, 2010, 01:36:49 pm
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/S4u0nJEMzTI/AAAAAAAAKrY/8nSq5QExyPE/s640/100301_123032.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 16, 2010, 10:07:07 am
So i figured Id finaly get around to posting some pics of the bike in motard trim

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/S59JgN3jsZI/AAAAAAAAKuA/EoqOPwwLVJM/s640/IMG_0062.JPG)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgC2b-WfRm4/S59JhGplOcI/AAAAAAAAKuM/Rex1GWd4PtU/s512/IMG_0063.JPG)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on March 16, 2010, 10:24:17 am
tell me more about those tires?

where and hoeveel?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 16, 2010, 10:26:57 am
tell me more about those tires?

where and hoeveel?
Renz.co.za

Front is a Pilotpower rc2 think they ar elike under 1k
Rear is a pilotRoad2 rc2 was like 1.2k but I have never seen a tire stand up to so much abuse without wearing, grips like mad too
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mrhyde on March 16, 2010, 10:41:18 am
lyk vokken sekzi!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 11:46:35 am
i wana join this thread... anyone selling a DRZ so I can join the party?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 12:27:38 pm
i wana join this thread... anyone selling a DRZ so I can join the party?
Debating mine, thoguh for your uses I would try find a full E or S or a set of wheels
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 12:30:04 pm
i wana join this thread... anyone selling a DRZ so I can join the party?
Debating mine, thoguh for your uses I would try find a full E or S or a set of wheels

yeah, yours is the SM model correct? they're down tuned aren't they?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 12:36:40 pm
i wana join this thread... anyone selling a DRZ so I can join the party?
Debating mine, thoguh for your uses I would try find a full E or S or a set of wheels

yeah, yours is the SM model correct? they're down tuned aren't they?
Down tuned?!

your kidding me right?

stock is like 10 hp less
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 12:42:24 pm
i meant the SM as opposed to the E model? wanna pm me specs/info/etc on your bike? and roughly what you'd ask for it, but yeah I also think an E model would be better :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 12:44:44 pm
i meant the SM as opposed to the E model? wanna pm me specs/info/etc on your bike? and roughly what you'd ask for it, but yeah I also think an E model would be better :)
The E model is almost the same thoguh without the subframe and with different shock... and offroad wheels obviously lol
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 12:50:23 pm
subframe = cool... so it has the frame like the one newguy put into his bike on the first page of this thread? and i could flog the rims and shock and buy the offroad kit, no?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 12:53:33 pm
subframe = cool... so it has the frame like the one newguy put into his bike on the first page of this thread? and i could flog the rims and shock and buy the offroad kit, no?

The rims yea you can replace them, the shock there is no reason to they are better than the E model as is
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 01:00:18 pm
mmmm... mail me info/specs/price please? you've got my mail address already! you should've bought that 17l safari tank you spoke about in this thread.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 01:01:44 pm
mmmm... mail me info/specs/price please? you've got my mail address already! you should've bought that 17l safari tank you spoke about in this thread.
Will call you, yea before I decided to keep it a tard I was keen on the tank
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 01:03:56 pm
put the tank on because i cant afford one!! :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 01:07:03 pm
put the tank on because i cant afford one!! :)
hahaha
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on May 17, 2010, 01:12:17 pm
i wana join this thread... anyone selling a DRZ so I can join the party?
Debating mine, thoguh for your uses I would try find a full E or S or a set of wheels

yeah, yours is the SM model correct? they're down tuned aren't they?
Down tuned?!

your kidding me right?

stock is like 10 hp less


No.............stock is not 10 hp less.  :mwink:

My bike is a stock E-model.  :deal:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4614554469_36efc2be85.jpg)


Now, I must just learn how to ride the bike to use the power effiencently  :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 01:19:35 pm
Stock without pipe E is like 36 - 38, 40 - 42 with a good pip and no baffel
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 01:25:42 pm
Stock without pipe E is like 36 - 38, 40 - 42 with a good pip and no baffel

and SM?

what are the other differences between the two bikes?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 17, 2010, 01:36:21 pm
Stock without pipe E is like 36 - 38, 40 - 42 with a good pip and no baffel

and SM?

what are the other differences between the two bikes?

SM has usd forks and swingarm from the RMZ. Also larger disk back and front.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 01:40:24 pm
SM has usd forks and swingarm from the RMZ. Also larger disk back and front.

= SM is better than E it seems?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 01:41:59 pm
SM has usd forks and swingarm from the RMZ. Also larger disk back and front.

= SM is better than E it seems?
Matter of perspective, I decided to go with the Sm cause I left it was better though you could very easily say that about the E. so close it hardly matters
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 17, 2010, 01:48:57 pm
Theoretically it should be cheaper to make the E's improvements to the SM than the other way around.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 01:51:18 pm
Yeah, how much does it cost to make an SM offroad? i.e. new rims and tires?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 02:00:46 pm
Yeah, how much does it cost to make an SM offroad? i.e. new rims and tires?

My advice would be to lace up a 19 or 21" rim to the current front up and leave the rear as there are more than enough tires for that rim
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 17, 2010, 02:17:31 pm
A set of wheels cost. 15k or more
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 02:22:00 pm
A set of wheels cost. 15k or more

rims, spokes, hubs and SM disks are under 10k new from Suzuki south no not sure where you are buying from...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 17, 2010, 02:22:41 pm
Not sm wheels
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 02:26:30 pm
Not sm wheels
Ah yea the sm wheels are kark pricey, I am talking about the offroad parts
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 02:51:16 pm
Ah yea the sm wheels are kark pricey, I am talking about the offroad parts

so its not a cheap operation huh?

i was hoping i could sell these rims and buy offroad rims and break even. i guess not :(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 02:53:38 pm
Ah yea the sm wheels are kark pricey, I am talking about the offroad parts

so its not a cheap operation huh?

i was hoping i could sell these rims and buy offroad rims and break even. i guess not :(
selling sm to get offroad you can. the sm ones are stupidly pricey
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 02:57:50 pm
so you reckon its better to keep these ones and lace the front onto a 21" rim? of course, assuming we agree on a price for the bike  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 02:59:48 pm
so you reckon its better to keep these ones and lace the front onto a 21" rim? of course, assuming we agree on a price for the bike  :deal:
hey hey hey slow down there kiddo I havent yet decided im selling... its a process lol.

but yea I would keep the 17" rear as there are loads of good tires for it, lace up a 19 front
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 03:09:50 pm
hey hey hey slow down there kiddo I havent yet decided im selling... its a process lol.

but yea I would keep the 17" rear as there are loads of good tires for it, lace up a 19 front

oh ok... but having consulted my DRZ expert i think i cannot afford your wheels :( most sad.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 17, 2010, 03:13:23 pm
hey hey hey slow down there kiddo I havent yet decided im selling... its a process lol.

but yea I would keep the 17" rear as there are loads of good tires for it, lace up a 19 front

oh ok... but having consulted my DRZ expert i think i cannot afford your wheels :( most sad.
yea I would probably look at about 35K
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 17, 2010, 03:14:39 pm
Good price, u paid allot more
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 17, 2010, 03:17:30 pm
yea I would probably look at about 35K

pm sent... i could MAYBE do a little more.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 17, 2010, 09:07:16 pm
Biggest drawback on the SM is die Mikuni carb, you won't believe how much better a DRZ is with a proper Keihin FCR. It's night and day, much more fun to ride  :thumleft: I won't say the usd forks on the SM is better than the E's conventional forks mainly because it is setup for a motard and not ds riding.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 18, 2010, 11:12:18 am
oh yea mine has the Keihin FCR

Biggest drawback on the SM is die Mikuni carb, you won't believe how much better a DRZ is with a proper Keihin FCR. It's night and day, much more fun to ride  :thumleft: I won't say the usd forks on the SM is better than the E's conventional forks mainly because it is setup for a motard and not ds riding.

Im not disagreeing with you but at the same time once they are set to standard (std for the SM) they are befok on a dirt track like the Z7 mx and eunduro tracks
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 18, 2010, 11:29:37 am
what're maintenance costs like on the DRZ?

(both the regular ones and the 'ooh-f*k' big end bearing ones)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 18, 2010, 11:55:58 am
what're maintenance costs like on the DRZ?

(both the regular ones and the 'ooh-f*k' big end bearing ones)
the minor service (oil & oil filter) is under R200 bucks the way I do it. R50 rand oil filter from Craigs and 1.7L's non synth oil (I do mine every 3500km's just enough time for the oil to start breaking down)

Big one I have no clue as I keep my garage stocked with all fluids and cleaning products as is.

My engine rebuild cost me 18k, that said you could have the same job done for about 15 to 16
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 18, 2010, 12:28:26 pm
and that aweful thread that bobnob started about DRZ being rebuilt all the time; is there truth to that is it just the guys who only use one wheel???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 18, 2010, 12:30:46 pm
and that aweful thread that bobnob started about DRZ being rebuilt all the time; is there truth to that is it just the guys who only use one wheel???
No clue hey, I bougth it witht he damage already done (stupid mistake by me) since the rebuild I havent had any issues though I also dont punish mine nearly as hard as some others do
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on May 18, 2010, 01:05:41 pm
The problem with the DRz is as follows:

It pulls like hell up to 150km/h, and when you in traffic that causes it to be a breeze to ride because you leave all traffic behind.

But then it was made to do short sprints on enduro trails. Those guys must have done something wrong.

SideTrack replaced his s model barrels with a 450 Athena kit at 68000km when it started to make some noises. But then you know what his DRz looked like, must have been raced.

68k for a small 400 is damn good!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 18, 2010, 01:06:57 pm
The problem with the DRz is as follows:

It pulls like hell up to 150km/h, and when you in traffic that causes it to be a breeze to ride because you leave all traffic behind.

But then it was made to do short sprints on enduro trails. Those guys must have done something wrong.

SideTrack replaced his s model barrels with a 450 Athena kit at 68000km when it started to make some noises. But then you know what his DRz looked like, must have been raced.

68k for a small 400 is damn good!
Agreed.

Its the long distance for hours on end sitting at 140 that will kill it not the spanking it up and down the rev range :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on May 18, 2010, 01:08:46 pm
The problem with the DRz is as follows:

It pulls like hell up to 150km/h, and when you in traffic that causes it to be a breeze to ride because you leave all traffic behind.

But then it was made to do short sprints on enduro trails. Those guys must have done something wrong.

SideTrack replaced his s model barrels with a 450 Athena kit at 68000km when it started to make some noises. But then you know what his DRz looked like, must have been raced.

68k for a small 400 is damn good!
Agreed.

Its the long distance for hours on end sitting at 140 that will kill it not the spanking it up and down the rev range :D

So true, it's happy all day long at 110km/h, but higher than that you're looking for troubles.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 18, 2010, 01:48:44 pm
so WD's just treat their DRZ's badly then?  cause there's a number of rebuilds on this site... seems like the bike for me though, i ride like a little girl, just need the flower basket on the front handlebars.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 18, 2010, 01:51:19 pm
i ride like a little girl, just need the flower basket on the front handlebars.

You and The_wes should do a ride sometime

:peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 18, 2010, 01:55:25 pm
so WD's just treat their DRZ's badly then?  cause there's a number of rebuilds on this site... seems like the bike for me though, i ride like a little girl, just need the flower basket on the front handlebars.
If you abuse the fark out of any thing it will bend and break. simple as that.

look at the number of rebuilds and the bikes history vs the amount of bikes around and its easy to see that its the exception rather than the rule
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on May 18, 2010, 02:13:26 pm
If you abuse the fark out of any thing it will bend and break. simple as that.

look at the number of rebuilds and the bikes history vs the amount of bikes around and its easy to see that its the exception rather than the rule

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I agree, its like riding a 2T, on and off!  :imaposer: Just much faster and better! :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 18, 2010, 02:35:41 pm
I rode the crap out of my DRZ SM. It had an open pipe. 3x3 mod and Dynojet kit. It pulled like a demon and I rode it like one.

I did not do too many long distance rides though and I usually sat at 110km/h over distance (anything more and it becomes hard work hanging on to the bars)

I did look after it VERY WELL and serviced it every 2500km. The choice of oil is most important IMO. See the DRZ oil and rebuild threads on TT for some detailed info.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 18, 2010, 02:36:53 pm
I am of the school of thought that 2500km's is to soon to change as the oil isn't going to break down enough and you will essentially "glaze" your cylinder.

but that's just me
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 18, 2010, 03:23:32 pm
You and The_wes should do a ride sometime
:peepwall:

Did you see when I almost rode your bike into that F650GS this weekend? haha. until that moment I was feeling like a real hero :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 18, 2010, 09:57:18 pm
Opinions are divided. Some have suffered big end failures but no reason why it happens. Take good care of it ride it like a normal human being and it will serve you well, most important check the oil level daily and change it on a regular basis. It's still the most affordable capable ds bike out there  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 19, 2010, 07:53:13 am
Opinions are divided. Some have suffered big end failures but no reason why it happens. Take good care of it ride it like a normal human being and it will serve you well, most important check the oil level daily and change it on a regular basis. It's still the most affordable capable ds bike out there  :thumleft:

well, i don't think it could be cheaper/more reliable than a DR650, but it's lighter and a bit more fun which's why i want one :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 19, 2010, 08:46:34 am
Opinions are divided. Some have suffered big end failures but no reason why it happens. Take good care of it ride it like a normal human being and it will serve you well, most important check the oil level daily and change it on a regular basis. It's still the most affordable capable ds bike out there  :thumleft:

well, i don't think it could be cheaper/more reliable than a DR650, but it's lighter and a bit more fun which's why i want one :)

Oh it is more than just a BIT more fun. Believe me.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 19, 2010, 09:00:27 am
Oh it is more than just a BIT more fun. Believe me.

I rode Etienne's DRZ on sunday at Atlantis Dunes. the highlight of my day spent riding was the 5 minutes on his bike.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 19, 2010, 11:18:10 am
DRZ FTW!
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn394/EtienneNXR/32129_1370957045680_1584365642_8195.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 20, 2010, 09:01:15 am
Lets get it back on track.

The bike I wish I never sold.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on May 20, 2010, 09:54:41 am
Those Z's look the dog balls in Back  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 20, 2010, 10:44:14 am
Those Z's look the dog balls in Back  :thumleft:
Have to agree though I do like them in white, that said every one knows the yellow ones are faster
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 20, 2010, 09:10:40 pm
i no longer own a DR650  :'( I am half way to becoming one of you guys... mmmm...  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 25, 2010, 12:51:00 pm
I have a original seat cover, blue and yellow, aswell as a plastic yellow tank if anyones interested
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on May 26, 2010, 08:19:57 am
What do u want them for?

tieing them to a horse. my drz purchase fell through  :imaposer: :imaposer:

no man, just if my seat's a bit torn or whatever. but i doubt i'll need them.

Yeah lucky, it's with great sadness that I'm going to load that DRz on the transporters lorry :'(
But at least I know you're going to enjoy it!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 26, 2010, 10:40:46 am
Yeah lucky, it's with great sadness that I'm going to load that DRz on the transporters lorry :'(
But at least I know you're going to enjoy it!  :thumleft:

I am EXTREMELY excited about my new bike!!! Thank you louis... Knowing I am getting a new bike next has stopped me being too sad about selling my DR650 last week... and I know there's the option of you moving onto a different bike as well?!?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on May 26, 2010, 10:41:43 am
Yeah lucky, it's with great sadness that I'm going to load that DRz on the transporters lorry :'(
But at least I know you're going to enjoy it!  :thumleft:

I am EXTREMELY excited about my new bike!!! Thank you louis... Knowing I am getting a new bike next has stopped me being too sad about selling my DR650 last week... and I know there's the option of you moving onto a different bike as well?!?

congrats  :thumleft: nothing like a new bike... the day they come drop it off is going to be lekker  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 26, 2010, 05:13:44 pm
Yeah lucky, it's with great sadness that I'm going to load that DRz on the transporters lorry :'(
But at least I know you're going to enjoy it!  :thumleft:

I am EXTREMELY excited about my new bike!!! Thank you louis... Knowing I am getting a new bike next has stopped me being too sad about selling my DR650 last week... and I know there's the option of you moving onto a different bike as well?!?
It's a pleasure  ;) What's next for LX ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 26, 2010, 06:53:00 pm
what oil do you guys use?

and gearing?

and how often do folks do oil & filter changes? 2500km? or does that glaze a cylinder? 5000km or is that too long and the oil's already breaking down?

and tire setups?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 26, 2010, 06:56:50 pm
Oil I did every 1000kms, and every 1 000kms on that did oil filter.

Gearing I ran 14 - 44

Tyres I ran maxxis IT front and rear, they'r not road legal though, but allot of fun on tar, you can powerslide them on command in the streets
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 26, 2010, 08:27:25 pm
what oil do you guys use?

and gearing?

and how often do folks do oil & filter changes? 2500km? or does that glaze a cylinder? 5000km or is that too long and the oil's already breaking down?

and tire setups?

oil stick to any old good non synthetic, its cheaper.... change it more often. buy oil filters from craigs @ 45 rand. ps: E2T I think 1000km's is to soon man the oil needs to break down sone other wise you glaze your cylinder.

Gearing: Sunday you can get a feel for what the SM with 14 - 41 is like, mad accelerate up till about 140

tires I am sold on hedi k60 rear and tkc80 front but thats just me
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 26, 2010, 08:29:07 pm
Depends on how you ride, how often you change the oil I guess. Mario at dirt rider told me to do oil every 1 000kms, or 10 hours
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 26, 2010, 09:38:20 pm
Castrol Actevo every 3500 km. Air filter after every dusty ride  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on May 27, 2010, 08:58:13 am
Castrol Actevo every 3500 km. Air filter after every dusty ride  :thumleft:

Airfilter is easy, its a Twin Air re washable in there.  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 27, 2010, 10:31:36 am
Castrol Actevo every 3500 km. Air filter after every dusty ride  :thumleft:

Airfilter is easy, its a Twin Air re washable in there.  ;D
yep

I made a habbit of keeping two,  one int he bike one ready to go in
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on May 27, 2010, 10:50:34 am
What aftermarket airfilters can you guy recommend ?

The OEM one is just a thin layer of foam that fits over that plastic frame thingy
and cost something like R400 (rip-off!!)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 27, 2010, 10:53:54 am
The twin air replacement is like R80, but its the same type of thing, the standard drz filter is very good. Or k&n it, once youve tried the rest, buy the best, theyr about R600
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on May 27, 2010, 11:04:52 am
The twin air replacement is like R80, but its the same type of thing, the standard drz filter is very good. Or k&n it, once youve tried the rest, buy the best, theyr about R600

Where can one buy the Twin air and K&N in Capetown?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 27, 2010, 11:06:09 am
Twin air, trac mac
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 27, 2010, 12:32:56 pm
shot guys :) what grade oil do you use?? i've got 15w40 caltex something or othery from the DR650, will that work?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 27, 2010, 02:04:28 pm
The twin air replacement is like R80, but its the same type of thing, the standard drz filter is very good. Or k&n it, once youve tried the rest, buy the best, theyr about R600

Where can one buy the Twin air and K&N in Capetown?
Craigs do the twin air
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on May 28, 2010, 08:12:52 am
shot guys :) what grade oil do you use?? i've got 15w40 caltex something or othery from the DR650, will that work?

Caltex Delo is ok same as all older spec. (API SF / SG / SJ) oils. 15W40 also should not give you hassles. Change often.

Better to use motorcycle specific oils (JASO MA) like Castrol ActEvo 4T 10W40 or Castrol Power1 Racing 4T 10W50

Do NOT use new spec (API SM) car oils or oils carrying the "Energy conserving" mark in the bottom of the API logo as seen below. They contain stuff you don't want (friction modifiers, stuff up your clutch) or don't contain stuff you want (EP additives, make your gears last longer) :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 28, 2010, 08:25:47 am
I used both Motul 5100 15W-50 and Belray Thumper 20W-50
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on May 28, 2010, 08:37:19 am
BTW: Advantages of a 50 over a 40 multigrade oil in a naturally aspirated fuel engine are marginal. A 40 will cope well with the oil temperatures encountered as long as it's not allowed to degrade badly.

Advantages of a 15W or better a 10W over a 20W are considerable. A thicker oil runs through filter bypass valves much longer on cold start and will take longer to build up oil pressure due to higher flow resistance.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 28, 2010, 09:37:01 am
Caltex Delo is ok same as all older spec. (API SF / SG / SJ) oils. 15W40 also should not give you hassles. Change often.

Advantages of a 15W or better a 10W over a 20W are considerable. A thicker oil runs through filter bypass valves much longer on cold start and will take longer to build up oil pressure due to higher flow resistance.

I used the Castrol ActEvo 10W40 in my DR650 and then used the Caltex Delo 15W40. I was MUCH happier with the Castrol, my engine sounded and felt smoother, the bike was happier and the running temperatures were noticeably lower (using the inner-thigh and crotch thermometer).

Where to get it? So far the best I can do is R190 from Midas for 5lt of 10W40, but they don't always have stock!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on May 28, 2010, 11:56:15 am
...
Where to get it? So far the best I can do is R190 from Midas for 5lt of 10W40, but they don't always have stock!

5l @ R190? That's Magnatec not ActEvo ???
5l Caltex Delo Gold 15W40 at Midas for about R170 if I remember correctly. Delo 400 is some ten bucks more. The cheapest I would put into my bike.

I sell Castrol ActEvo 10W40 as well as Power1 Racing 10W50 by the litre @ R66 / R130

ActEvo and other JASO MA oils make noticable difference looking at your clutch. Less sticking, better clutch control.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on May 28, 2010, 12:12:55 pm
Motul 5100 15W-50 is not badly priced if you buy a 4L - R290. If you buy it by the litre it is R100/L
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 29, 2010, 10:01:19 pm
wednesday i become a member of this little clan. I CANNOT WAIT!!! only problem is i have a LONG list of must have items for my little scoot: zorst (hopefully yoshi full set up, cause it's cool but way pricey!), tank (3.9 gal clarke), vapor 'puter, sprocket change, new shoes, then possibly cams, gas flow & port...  there is more that needs to be done  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 29, 2010, 10:49:16 pm
Dont do 'cams, gasflow, and port'.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 29, 2010, 11:46:48 pm
so G2M a few hours riding the Dr.zook-SM what ya think?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 30, 2010, 04:52:10 pm
so G2M a few hours riding the Dr.zook-SM what ya think?

its AWESOME!!! i think there is a design problem tho; the front wheel doesn't like being on the tar?!?! no, it was amazing.such fun through the corners... i'd never really understood or enjoyed the twisties on my DR, from that first corner through oukaapseweg it was  >:D it is such a hooligan thing tho, it just encourages you to ride like a maniac. so comforting at speed. THANKS N[]va!!! makes me excited for my E to arrive this week.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 30, 2010, 05:10:38 pm
Know the feeling, i always thought, jeez i must piss off allot of people when i ride in the city :D but you cant help it, like i told u when u had that dr, lifes to short to ride boring bikes...and then u went ahead and sold it :d ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 30, 2010, 05:36:38 pm
Know the feeling, i always thought, jeez i must piss off allot of people when i ride in the city :D but you cant help it, like i told u when u had that dr, lifes to short to ride boring bikes...and then u went ahead and sold it :d ;D

and its all your fault i sold the DR  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 31, 2010, 08:01:37 am
Dont do 'cams, gasflow, and port'.
Do cams (Hotcams) but not gasflow and port you gain nothing. The cams gives a nice little "skop"  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 31, 2010, 08:02:34 am
The E, already has hotter cams than the S
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 31, 2010, 08:06:31 am
Do cams (Hotcams) but not gasflow and port you gain nothing. The cams gives a nice little "skop"  :ricky:


what'll hot cams set me back? i wanna do both... but that'll probably only be at year end.

i know on a car gas flow and porting increases the efficiency of air/fuel through the engine, so i assumed it's got to be a good thing???

etienne keeps discouraging all the mods :) my girlfriend likes him for that... i suppose my bank account does too!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 31, 2010, 08:09:13 am
I think cams are around $500ish
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 31, 2010, 08:14:21 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on May 31, 2010, 08:16:13 am
If u want a real, nice pipe, get the mrd/ssw one. It was developed for the drz
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 31, 2010, 08:37:57 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Adam before you go mad with the modding go have a chat to Julian (wrench) as he has dyno'd and has results from loads of DRZ with different mods, Just from those you should get a good idea where to look for best bang for buck. hotcams you want the intake cam btw
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 31, 2010, 09:19:16 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on May 31, 2010, 09:23:12 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 31, 2010, 09:48:20 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Trading your TE ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on May 31, 2010, 09:52:43 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Trading your TE ?

The thought has crossed my mind, but I don't think it's the right decision for me right now...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 31, 2010, 11:08:32 am
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Trading your TE ?

The thought has crossed my mind, but I don't think it's the right decision for me right now...
for a 690 yea sure not the TE for the Z
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Malibu on May 31, 2010, 11:44:47 am
Sidetrack, I have to say - I'm even more in LOVE!  My (Your) Baby ran like a little demon this last weekend.  She did not even blink at anything, ran like a dream, gave the guys stick, floated on the sand, jolled in the mud, hell, she even enjoyed sitting outside the shebeen! 

I LOVE her!  :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on May 31, 2010, 12:36:29 pm
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Trading your TE ?

The thought has crossed my mind, but I don't think it's the right decision for me right now...
for a 690 yea sure not the TE for the Z

i'm referring to the 525, also not sure i'd trade my 610 for a 690  :pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on May 31, 2010, 12:39:50 pm
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Trading your TE ?

The thought has crossed my mind, but I don't think it's the right decision for me right now...
for a 690 yea sure not the TE for the Z

i'm referring to the 525, also not sure i'd trade my 610 for a 690  :pot:

there are only so many reasons for that none of which would be a compliment to you :-p
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on May 31, 2010, 12:42:33 pm
I think cams are around $500ish

(nice new pic etienne!) i think the cams are going on the 'i want a yoshimura full system' wish list- the one where i'm just not going to spend $$$ on such mods, well not until i'm earning $$$ as well. hectic.  :'(
Been there done that, the mods makes a huge difference to the DRZ. Alternatively just buy a stock standard KTM 525  >:D

I know of one coming up for sale soon  :peepwall:
Trading your TE ?

The thought has crossed my mind, but I don't think it's the right decision for me right now...
for a 690 yea sure not the TE for the Z

i'm referring to the 525, also not sure i'd trade my 610 for a 690  :pot:

there are only so many reasons for that none of which would be a compliment to you :-p

there are so many reasons for that none of which i would mention, for your sake  :imaposer:

naaa i'm just teasing, i'm sure the 690 is a killer bike. which reminds me, i should really speak to KTM about trying one of their demo's, since I have still to date never ridden one...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on May 31, 2010, 02:18:54 pm
Sidetrack, I have to say - I'm even more in LOVE!  My (Your) Baby ran like a little demon this last weekend.  She did not even blink at anything, ran like a dream, gave the guys stick, floated on the sand, jolled in the mud, hell, she even enjoyed sitting outside the shebeen! 

I LOVE her!  :)
Good to hear, I only have fond memories of that bike  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on May 31, 2010, 02:43:57 pm
2 days  >:D O0 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 12:17:21 pm
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4659637450_8bf3c5a3cd_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 02:04:22 pm
kewlest pic yet  :mwink:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4659764448_9b3d51d0c0_b.jpg)
look at the corner no the camera! lol  :deal:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4659140265_605fb9cc00_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 01, 2010, 02:18:55 pm
i was just about to post those :) thanks dude!!! i'd post yours but they're not on a zook! next time i wanna get some peg-scraping happening  >:D sadly i only get mine on saturday! argh.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 02:21:16 pm
i was just about to post those :) thanks dude!!! i'd post yours but they're not on a zook! next time i wanna get some peg-scraping happening  >:D sadly i only get mine on saturday! argh.
all good :D

think about it this way in that first pic you still have like 20% of the tire to lean on still :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 01, 2010, 02:24:38 pm
all good :D

think about it this way in that first pic you still have like 20% of the tire to lean on still :D

but in the second pic it looks like i am using the edge of the tire surface better, right? i asked the one instructor how to do turn one faster, he didn't really want to tell me :( (i try not to hijack this thread and only talk zook stuff, but its hard!)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 02:26:56 pm
all good :D

think about it this way in that first pic you still have like 20% of the tire to lean on still :D

but in the second pic it looks like i am using the edge of the tire surface better, right? i asked the one instructor how to do turn one faster, he didn't really want to tell me :( (i try not to hijack this thread and only talk zook stuff, but its hard!)
naw you still have loads of leaning to go there, first thing is that your foor is in the way and second is that you need to get you ass out off of the seat over the outside peg (weight that peg big time too) dont try and lean more, as you get faster it happens by itself
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 01, 2010, 02:30:27 pm
naw you still have loads of leaning to go there, first thing is that your foor is in the way and second is that you need to get you ass out off of the seat over the outside peg (weight that peg big time too) dont try and lean more, as you get faster it happens by itself

i know i can still go much further over... it also felt like i was getting very far forward and over the handlebars, but in the pics it turns out i am not really moving much at all!!! i'll need to borrow the sm to practice some more  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 02:32:25 pm
naw you still have loads of leaning to go there, first thing is that your foor is in the way and second is that you need to get you ass out off of the seat over the outside peg (weight that peg big time too) dont try and lean more, as you get faster it happens by itself

i know i can still go much further over... it also felt like i was getting very far forward and over the handlebars, but in the pics it turns out i am not really moving much at all!!! i'll need to borrow the sm to practice some more  >:D
will have to be after the EC bash as im slapping the knobblies back on this week
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 01, 2010, 02:39:43 pm
will have to be after the EC bash as im slapping the knobblies back on this week

onto those rims or will you buy other rims as well? send me pics :) how much slower will my DRZ be with stock engine, do you know?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 01, 2010, 02:42:57 pm
will have to be after the EC bash as im slapping the knobblies back on this week

onto those rims or will you buy other rims as well? send me pics :) how much slower will my DRZ be with stock engine, do you know?

save the performance mods you HP chaser you...  :imaposer: go for reliability!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 02:44:08 pm
will have to be after the EC bash as im slapping the knobblies back on this week

onto those rims or will you buy other rims as well? send me pics :) how much slower will my DRZ be with stock engine, do you know?

save the performance mods you HP chaser you...  :imaposer: go for reliability!
have to agree with wes (which btw makes me have an uge to go shower.... I feel dirty -[ )

dont chase Hp with a DRZ if thats what your after then get a race bike
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 01, 2010, 02:46:34 pm
save the performance mods you HP chaser you...  :imaposer: go for reliability!

i know! i know! reliability is key. but HP lifts the front wheel off the ground  >:D besides, don't you ride an enduro race bike with indicators on it? but the general message i am getting is to chill on the mods. i was asking more because it may be a problem (for my bike tire and my safety) if my bike is as savage as n[]va's.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 02:48:14 pm
save the performance mods you HP chaser you...  :imaposer: go for reliability!

i know! i know! reliability is key. but HP lifts the front wheel off the ground  >:D besides, don't you ride an enduro race bike with indicators on it? but the general message i am getting is to chill on the mods. i was asking more because it may be a problem (for my bike tire and my safety) if my bike is as savage as n[]va's.
keep in mind i can change my frint sprocket and make it very tame with a much higher top end
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 01, 2010, 02:56:49 pm
The E model puts out quite abit more power than a stock S/SM
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 03:06:08 pm
The E model puts out quite abit more power than a stock S/SM
yep

once your E is jetted properly it should be close to my SM
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 01, 2010, 03:10:43 pm
yep

once your E is jetted properly it should be close to my SM

sick. i'm going to stop whining about mods now :P just wish my bike would hurry up and arrive.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 01, 2010, 03:12:38 pm
We can do a lekker ride next week
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 01, 2010, 03:18:03 pm
We can do a lekker ride next week
hells yea :D

if Sandra is feeling up to it I wanna hit z7 tomorrow, give her a chance to get used to the 690
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 10:52:26 am
So I was testing out the new Veho Muvi, micro camera...

Took the bike through the neighbourhood for a quick burn.

Just taking the piss with some quick roll-on/power wheelies and a stoppie or 2.

Must still figure out the best place to mount the cam for optimum coverage...

Anyways... Milddog... this one is for you... How many more sleeps?  >:D

http://www.youtube.com/v/FidwKRLmvKw

BTW, this was my 1st attempt at video editing. I also added a bit of classic rock as a soundtrack...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 02, 2010, 10:53:59 am
nice!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on June 02, 2010, 10:57:58 am
Lekker Bus !!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Eisbein on June 02, 2010, 11:14:22 am
So I was testing out the new Veho Muvi, micro camera...

Took the bike through the neighbourhood for a quick burn.

Just taking the piss with some quick roll-on/power wheelies and a stoppie or 2.

Must still figure out the best place to mount the cam for optimum coverage...

Anyways... Milddog... this one is for you... How many more sleeps?  >:D

http://www.youtube.com/v/FidwKRLmvKw

BTW, this was my 1st attempt at video editing. I also added a bit of classic rock as a soundtrack...  :biggrin:

Hectic!

Ons moet eendag bietjie saam die strate in vaar - ek wou nog altyd 'n hooligan GS video gemaak het...

;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 02, 2010, 11:40:07 am
ek wou nog altyd 'n hooligan GS video gemaak het...

is dit moontlik ???  :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 02, 2010, 11:41:13 am
So I was testing out the new Veho Muvi, micro camera...

Took the bike through the neighbourhood for a quick burn.

Just taking the piss with some quick roll-on/power wheelies and a stoppie or 2.

Must still figure out the best place to mount the cam for optimum coverage...

Anyways... Milddog... this one is for you... How many more sleeps?  >:D

BTW, this was my 1st attempt at video editing. I also added a bit of classic rock as a soundtrack...  :biggrin:

VERY COOL!!! shot... made me smile at work, which takes a lot. I found out yesterday delivery is not today, but on Saturday while I am away for the weekend :( Sunday night I'll come home and she'll be in the garage!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Eisbein on June 02, 2010, 12:53:52 pm
ek wou nog altyd 'n hooligan GS video gemaak het...

is dit moontlik ???  :imaposer:

You have no idea...

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 12:56:20 pm
Sounds like an idea, Eis...

Westie, shut yer pie-hole and let the MMWC play...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2010, 02:52:26 pm
Bus what gearing are you running ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 02, 2010, 03:05:36 pm
arg my neck bearings are gone..... Bus i recall you replaced yours a while back any options other than suzuki?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 03:37:04 pm
All Balls steering headbearings...

You can get from MArio at Dirtrider in Killarney Gardens. I believe MP Customvalve also stock All Balls...

You can get them for less than half of Suzuki parts...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 02, 2010, 03:39:59 pm
sweet!

have a size or part nmber for me?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 03:40:23 pm
Bus what gearing are you running ?

15-40 for motard: 1st to 3rd easy ups, 4th with a lekker tug...

15-43 for off road: Much more pogo stick...  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 03:44:02 pm
sweet!

have a size or part nmber for me?

Shit, sorry brudda...

I might still have the invoice or the packet lying around, will check and let u know...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 02, 2010, 03:44:43 pm
sweet!

have a size or part nmber for me?
no stress mario should know
Shit, sorry brudda...

I might still have the invoice or the packet lying around, will check and let u know...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 02, 2010, 03:45:24 pm
Bus what gearing are you running ?

15-40 for motard: 1st to 3rd easy ups, 4th with a lekker tug...

15-43 for off road: Much more pogo stick...  >:D
phft im going 14-41 atm :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2010, 03:48:09 pm
Bus what gearing are you running ?

15-40 for motard: 1st to 3rd easy ups, 4th with a lekker tug...

15-43 for off road: Much more pogo stick...  >:D
Fark I need practise, lifting in third  :o I wrenched my arms out in first  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 03:49:55 pm
Looky here for my thread on the steering bearings......

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=38649.0
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 02, 2010, 03:54:00 pm
15-40 for motard: 1st to 3rd easy ups, 4th with a lekker tug...

15-43 for off road: Much more pogo stick...  >:D

the higher the teeth the higher the top speed, right?
you have 2 sets of rims?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2010, 04:11:46 pm
Smaller rear sprocket = higher top end and vica versa
Smaller front sprocket = lower top speed and vica versa

Countershaft sprocket makes a bigger difference than the rear
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2010, 04:12:14 pm
OK, lets see...

High speed, you want larger front and smaller rear sprocket.

And the opposite for pulling power.

I have 2 sets of totally different rims.

The rear dirt wheel is 18" and the rear SM wheel is 17". That obviously plays with your gearing too. The same sprocket combo on both wheels will result in the SM setup being much shorter (more pulling power) because of the smaller wheel.

Therefore I also have 2 seperate chains and sprocket sets for the 2 platforms.

When I just got the SM wheels, I ran 15-44 (standard S gearing) on them... It was just stupid, but lots of fun...  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2010, 04:20:52 pm
Had to post this

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/kickass/IMG_0484.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 02, 2010, 05:03:53 pm
Had to post this

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/kickass/IMG_0484.jpg)
Damn, thats hideous
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 02, 2010, 06:43:57 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/kickass/IMG_0484.jpg)

kick start DRZ???

bus... what are you running on the SM now?

so with 15-40 what cruising speed will i have? and 15-44? Using stock E engine and tire sizes, etc.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 02, 2010, 06:47:38 pm
You can buy a kickstart kit, $200 ish

I ran 14-44 for dunes, mountain riding etc. And 15-44 for gravel riding.
With the 15-44, it sits easy at 120, and runs up to 150, and still wheelies all the way to top gear
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 02, 2010, 06:49:16 pm
why would you want kick start?

"e-start FTW" E2T said that once :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 02, 2010, 08:08:30 pm
why would you want kick start?

"e-start FTW" E2T said that once :)
when your battery dies you will know why :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on June 03, 2010, 08:15:13 am
First Zs were kickstart, known as the K model for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 03, 2010, 08:31:16 am
bus... what are you running on the SM now?

so with 15-40 what cruising speed will i have? and 15-44? Using stock E engine and tire sizes, etc.

I wouldnt go 15-40 off-road with a standard motor...

You will pretty much just use 1st to 4th, with 5th as an overdrive... And it will suck on technical terrain.

This is just my opinion, of course. You will never know til you try it...

For really long distance I use 15-41
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 03, 2010, 06:10:06 pm
First Zs were kickstart, known as the K model for obvious reasons.
Not many of them made, for obvious reasons they were lighter than the other DRZ's (E's and S)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 06, 2010, 07:08:00 pm
I am NOW part of this club. Awesome... Now... to get it started :( my tank is *dry* so I gotta go fill a jerry can at the petrol station before i can test ride it. Will report (show off) ASAP
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 06, 2010, 10:20:31 pm
Great stuff :D

my knobblies are bigger than yours ^.^
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4675593925_5d32cfc4bc_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 06, 2010, 10:25:23 pm
hahaha! that's awesome. my bike won't start. this is not a good thing. mmmm :(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 06, 2010, 10:30:07 pm
hahaha! that's awesome. my bike won't start. this is not a good thing. mmmm :(
why not?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 06, 2010, 10:39:25 pm
this little moster if a farking champion :D!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4676254862_b88350a407_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 06, 2010, 11:31:58 pm
tank was dry dry dry! after i came in and posted on the forum, went back out, shook the bike around and it started first time.

WHAT A MONSTER!!!  >:D

very nearly had an off, it has an old maxxis on the bike, came out of a corner in 2nd, pinned the throttle and the back went sideways. so i closed the throttle and had a bit of a tank slapper/wobbly with the front end... it settled down and i rode home slowly!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 06, 2010, 11:33:52 pm
tank was dry dry dry! after i came in and posted on the forum, went back out, shook the bike around and it started first time.

WHAT A MONSTER!!!  >:D

very nearly had an off, it has an old maxxis on the bike, came out of a corner in 2nd, pinned the throttle and the back went sideways. so i closed the throttle and had a bit of a tank slapper/wobbly with the front end... it settled down and i rode home slowly!
lol them there arent motard tires!

glad to hear its working :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 06, 2010, 11:37:40 pm
so i learnt. very quickly! also the brakes aren't quite the same...

how did the motard fair in the mud? what's that front tire like??

what is the plastic see through bottle at the back on the left of the bike for? mine looks pretty much empty...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 06, 2010, 11:41:24 pm
so i leant. very quickly! also the brakes aren't quite the same...

how did the motard fair in the mud? what's that front tire like??

what is the plastic see through bottle at the back on the left of the bike for? mine looks pretty much empty...
Mrs N likes to give it horns, managed 140 on the dirt o.O! (speedo was set wrong so she was annoyed she couldnt get over 70.... LOL!)

awesome fun to ride with those tires.

It's an overflow bottle, catches fuel and stuffs
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 06, 2010, 11:45:52 pm
hahaha...

glad you two had fun :)

so no worries if overflow bottle is empty?

the bike's in good condition. just needs new tires and chain fairly soon. gotta check rad coolant and such levels tomorrow...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 06, 2010, 11:52:42 pm
hahaha...

glad you two had fun :)

so no worries if overflow bottle is empty?

the bike's in good condition. just needs new tires and chain fairly soon. gotta check rad coolant and such levels tomorrow...
nothing in there is good
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 06, 2010, 11:57:38 pm
nothing in there is good

great... when are we hitting the dunes again? so i cant use my maxxis tires at the next track day can I?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 07, 2010, 06:57:50 am
It doesnt catch fuel, its the radiator overflow
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on June 07, 2010, 07:26:31 am
It doesnt catch fuel, its the radiator overflow

The OEM plastic bottle is the radiator overflow.

The one on Jan's bike is an overflow for about everything that can possibly leak - testimony to the previous owner's racing ambitions.
Wonder if you can also connect it to your bladder as some sort of a bedpan in case you overcook it ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 07, 2010, 07:27:51 am
We are not talking about jan's bike :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 08:46:27 am
It doesnt catch fuel, its the radiator overflow

The OEM plastic bottle is the radiator overflow.

The one on Jan's bike is an overflow for about everything that can possibly leak - testimony to the previous owner's racing ambitions.
Wonder if you can also connect it to your bladder as some sort of a bedpan in case you overcook it ;D
lol gonna need a bigger bottle then :-p

We are not talking about jan's bike :)
Yea I missed that, oem if rad overflow
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 07, 2010, 08:49:33 am
When the motor gets hot the coolant flows to the overflow tank, when it cools it drains back into the radiator  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 09:22:28 am
rode the bike to work this morning... it's a beast of a thing. seems to run out of revs very quickly though. it's like a drunk pikey. loud, aggressive and a little twitchy, but maybe that is because my only frame of reference is a DR650. I can see this bike being a bit annoying if i'm trying to have a relaxed ride, but an absolute pleasure when i'm looking to ride fast/hard. It seems to want to be ridden like a hooligan, the engine only makes sense at high revs. or is that just me???

Chain and tires will need seeing too fairly soon. Need to do oil change & basic service as well. will post pics soon. Though it is louis xander's old bike so most of you know will know it already i assume. the luggage racks are awesome. but the high-beam points up into the sky...?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 07, 2010, 09:27:42 am
rode the bike to work this morning... it's a beast of a thing. seems to run out of revs very quickly though. it's like a drunk pikey. loud, aggressive and a little twitchy, but maybe that is because my only frame of reference is a DR650. I can see this bike being a bit annoying if i'm trying to have a relaxed ride, but an absolute pleasure when i'm looking to ride fast/hard. It seems to want to be ridden like a hooligan, the engine only makes sense at high revs. or is that just me???

Chain and tires will need seeing too fairly soon. Need to do oil change & basic service as well. will post pics soon. Though it is louis xander's old bike so most of you know will know it already i assume. the luggage racks are awesome. but the high-beam points up into the sky...?
The DRZ makes more sense when you hit the dirt. It can sit on tar whole day long but it's not fun.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 09:34:58 am
seems like it can do pretty much everything the DR650 can do, maybe just with higher revs and less comfort, but then it ROCKS offroad  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 07, 2010, 09:53:21 am
seems like it can do pretty much everything the DR650 can do, maybe just with higher revs and less comfort, but then it ROCKS offroad  :ricky:
I had both, no contest the DRZ is way better.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 09:56:13 am
rode the bike to work this morning... it's a beast of a thing. seems to run out of revs very quickly though. it's like a drunk pikey. loud, aggressive and a little twitchy, but maybe that is because my only frame of reference is a DR650. I can see this bike being a bit annoying if i'm trying to have a relaxed ride, but an absolute pleasure when i'm looking to ride fast/hard. It seems to want to be ridden like a hooligan, the engine only makes sense at high revs. or is that just me???

Chain and tires will need seeing too fairly soon. Need to do oil change & basic service as well. will post pics soon. Though it is louis xander's old bike so most of you know will know it already i assume. the luggage racks are awesome. but the high-beam points up into the sky...?

Your welcome to swing out my side this weekend, or me your side and can help you service it. I need to do the 690 as is.

chances are your gearing is more dirt than traveling
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 10:00:16 am
Thanks. That might work quite well, I only have regular spanners, so I can't actually get the side covers off by myself. I'll come round maybe Saturday morning then. I must just get a an oil filter. You can help me check the rest of the bike as well :)

I'm bored at work. Do you think it's rude to go ride my bike as a break from the office?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 10:03:44 am
Thanks. That might work quite well, I only have regular spanners, so I can't actually get the side covers off by myself. I'll come round maybe Saturday morning then. I must just get a an oil filter. You can help me check the rest of the bike as well :)

I'm bored at work. Do you think it's rude to go ride my bike as a break from the office?
At my office no its expectedd, yours I dunno?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 10:13:18 am
At my office no its expectedd, yours I dunno?

I'm not sure. I guess there's only one way to find out. Worry I may not make it back; after last night I'm very wary of the non-road legal maxxis on the back of my bike...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 10:18:08 am
At my office no its expectedd, yours I dunno?

I'm not sure. I guess there's only one way to find out. Worry I may not make it back; after last night I'm very wary of the non-road legal maxxis on the back of my bike...
gawd there were tomany ppl on the road when I got back, also no mirrors at all on the 690 any more lol
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 10:32:11 am
is that a permanent thing? riding without mirrors is very disconcerting, when i was on the zook without the mirrors i just made sure i was going faster than everyone else.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 10:35:03 am
is that a permanent thing? riding without mirrors is very disconcerting, when i was on the zook without the mirrors i just made sure i was going faster than everyone else.
naw traffic from world cup, mirror got busted in the cederberg
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 11:03:12 am
when do we get the ride report? :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 11:07:08 am
when do we get the ride report? :)
once im awake enough
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 03:25:01 pm
n[]va: still sleeping?

i get to ride the zook, with its old maxxis on the back, home in the traffic with the rain now. fun  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 04:27:21 pm
was posted hours ago mate :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 05:18:17 pm
awesome RR...

my engine is making a slight rubbing sound... not sure if i never noticed it with your bike because of the yoshi. but it sounds kinda like two sheets of paper rubbing together, only fainter and each 'sssshhhh' is longer. oil is above the bit on the dipstick with grooves on it, and 1/3 up the thin sticky bit (couldn't find the F or L marks last night). should i be concerned?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 07, 2010, 06:00:32 pm
Noisy camchain probably, it's normal
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 08:50:40 pm
lol new bike stress syndrome :-p

the cam chain is noisy, get a manual cam chain tensioner
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 07, 2010, 10:07:44 pm
lol new bike stress syndrome :-p

the cam chain is noisy, get a manual cam chain tensioner

big time... i have this image of my zook dieing a big end bearing death on the M3 at 120km/h in the wet...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 07, 2010, 10:13:07 pm
Mine got water into the fuel again ....  :dousing:

so gonna have to go collect it tomorrow morning and strip the carb properly, its getting water in some how, I skeem it has to be the breather in the fuel cap
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 08, 2010, 09:00:35 am
That really sucks. Mine passed the 'water' test last night; it stayed outside for about 4 hours in the rain. Good luck with stripping it. What solution is there; buy a new cap for the petrol tank?

My maxxis back tire is SLIPPERY WHEN WET. sh*t... felt the back sliding all over the place on the way to work today, even under gentle braking and accelerating.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 11:45:31 am
On my rims there are 'blind' valves, second valves that seem to serve no function. What is that about?

My radiator is full. Do i drain and replace what's in there or do i just top it up if it needs it? Coming from an air cooled bike i don't know about such things  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 10, 2010, 11:51:48 am
The blind valves are rim locks
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 11:57:50 am
hey milddog - when do we get to see some pics of this new bike of yours??  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 10, 2010, 12:01:30 pm
Come ride with us today wes, and see
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 12:03:07 pm
Come ride with us today wes, and see

1. i have work to do, unfortunately
2. i am not sure i feel like getting lapped and roosted while i try muscle the husky through the enduro loop as you fly by on your 2T  :ricky:

what's their enduro track like anyways? is it suitable for bigger bikes?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 10, 2010, 12:04:28 pm
Its nothing hectic, about 6-8kms. Martin did it on his dr650...........
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 12:08:20 pm
Its nothing hectic, about 6-8kms. Martin did it on his dr650...........

I can't ride like martin. I can't even powerslide...

just teasing martin, but i still owe you a couple of chirps  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 12:17:40 pm
Etienne has done this to me before. He also reckons everything is easy. He says "come with, it'll be fun, i'll look after you". then i watch him wheelie off and don't see him again until the end, where he is sitting calmly smiling while i sweat and swear and try not to drop my bike again. but i'll go with him again next week too! I ride much worse than you wes, so you'll be in front of me at least :)

Rim locks??? do i have to worry what they are? do i need to know?

i haven't had a chance to wash or service the bike since i got it. once that's done i'll post pics :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 12:21:00 pm
Etienne has done this to me before. He also reckons everything is easy. He says "come with, it'll be fun, i'll look after you". then i watch him wheelie off and don't see him again until the end, where he is sitting calmly smiling while i sweat and swear and try not to drop my bike again. but i'll go with him again next week too! I ride much worse than you wes, so you'll be in front of me at least :)

Rim locks??? do i have to worry what they are? do i need to know?

i haven't had a chance to wash or service the bike since i got it. once that's done i'll post pics :)

show us the dirty pics  :thumleft:

me faster than you? doubt it, still trying to get my speed (and courage) back up after the accident...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 10, 2010, 12:23:51 pm
The rimlocks lock the tyre onto the rim. So u can run a low pressure and the tyre stays on
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 12:52:21 pm
show us the dirty pics  :thumleft:

me faster than you? doubt it, still trying to get my speed (and courage) back up after the accident...

if i have time before i hit the enduro track today i'll take and post pics!

or wes, you can come and have a 'who rides slower' competition with me on the enduro track and see for yourself!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MrBig on June 10, 2010, 12:56:09 pm

Rim locks??? do i have to worry what they are? do i need to know?



Don't worry, you'll get to know them intimately when you have to change a tyre  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 10, 2010, 01:33:29 pm
On my rims there are 'blind' valves, second valves that seem to serve no function. What is that about?

My radiator is full. Do i drain and replace what's in there or do i just top it up if it needs it? Coming from an air cooled bike i don't know about such things  ???
Sounds like a rim lock to me?

The radiator what I would do If I were you is when you service the bike, take them off clean tem check for cracks/leaks etc and then fill them up with a premix 50/590 anti freez/water
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 02:26:22 pm
Enduro mission today cancelled :( etienne and myself aren't great planners it seems. He doesn't have a toe-hitch on his car and I don't have a trailer. Anyways, now to clean my bike while the sun shines :) will post pics shortly.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 02:27:26 pm
why doesn't he just ride his bike there?  :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 02:41:42 pm
why doesn't he just ride his bike there?  :deal:

its an MX bike and he's a big pansy :) haha

so, important modification discussion: stickers

where to apply them?

I want my bike to look neat and smart and mean, kinda like n[]va's bike, i don't want it to look like i got it when I was 16 and just covered it in stickers because that is baai kief.

i have 2 paws and an evolution of man sticker. i will get other stickers when i buy actual mods for the bike.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 02:50:01 pm
if you want it to look kief then you need kief "racing" brand logos  :mwink: :mwink: :mwink:

screw the stickers, put every cent into farkles first... and post a photo of the bike dammit!!

otherwise start with this sticker  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on June 10, 2010, 02:51:40 pm
Its nothing hectic, about 6-8kms. Martin did it on his dr650...........

I can't ride like martin. I can't even powerslide...

just teasing martin, but i still owe you a couple of chirps  :mwink:
:laughing4:haha

Dude,Wes you'll love the enduro loop,It's not that hectic...

I'm also planning on going soon agen,not sure about next week.

But I'm heading of to Z7 this saturday to go check out the endurocross race,so I'll ride that little track's in the tree's just across Z7,anyone gonna join?
Not much but it's bluddy fun  ;D:pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 02:53:11 pm
Its nothing hectic, about 6-8kms. Martin did it on his dr650...........

I can't ride like martin. I can't even powerslide...

just teasing martin, but i still owe you a couple of chirps  :mwink:
:laughing4:haha

Dude,Wes you'll love the enduro loop,It's not that hectic...

I'm also planning on going soon agen,not sure about next week.

But I'm heading of to Z7 this saturday to go check out the endurocross race,so I'll ride that little track's in the tree's just across Z7,anyone gonna join?
Not much but it's bluddy fun  ;D:pot:


myself and the_priest are leaving my spot at 7:30 on saturday - heading to the quarry (probably get there by 8) to ride not the quarry but the loops and trails around it, then will head over to zone 7 and probably ride that bit across the road as well...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on June 10, 2010, 02:55:37 pm
Its nothing hectic, about 6-8kms. Martin did it on his dr650...........

I can't ride like martin. I can't even powerslide...

just teasing martin, but i still owe you a couple of chirps  :mwink:
:laughing4:haha

Dude,Wes you'll love the enduro loop,It's not that hectic...

I'm also planning on going soon agen,not sure about next week.

But I'm heading of to Z7 this saturday to go check out the endurocross race,so I'll ride that little track's in the tree's just across Z7,anyone gonna join?
Not much but it's bluddy fun  ;D:pot:


myself and the_priest are leaving my spot at 7:30 on saturday - heading to the quarry (probably get there by 8) to ride not the quarry but the loops and trails around it, then will head over to zone 7 and probably ride that bit across the road as well...
Ok sweet! Dan sal ek julle sommer daar kry.
Wil let you know for sure tomorrow. :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 03:05:47 pm
where can i get a no toil kit and how much will that be? in the suburbs south of the curtain :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 03:07:39 pm

you joining us saturday morning milddog?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 03:10:48 pm

you joining us saturday morning milddog?

n[]va's kindly agreed to help me service my bike, so i'll be doing that on saturday, but depending what time the service is, i will DEFINATEYL be coming with.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 10, 2010, 03:20:43 pm

you joining us saturday morning milddog?

n[]va's kindly agreed to help me service my bike, so i'll be doing that on saturday, but depending what time the service is, i will DEFINATEYL be coming with.
I need to let you know about this hey, I have to do the 690 and the drz neck bearings and a few other repairs
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 05:55:07 pm
air filter cleaning:

i have a uni air filter. used paraffin to clean it. now can't get the smell/feel of the paraffin out of the airfilter??? i've rinsed it ALOT and also used clean grean???

wes: pics on the way!!! taken them, just need to finish playing mechanic and then i'll post them :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 05:57:45 pm
used paraffin to clean it.

 :BangHead:

PREPSOL not PARAFFIN

did you oil it when you were done rinsing and drying it?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 06:03:28 pm
 :o :o :o
:BangHead:

PREPSOL not PARAFFIN

did you oil it when you were done rinsing and drying it?

I am about to put in some air filter oil... i thought paraffin would be alright, well at least it is better than petrol. i have prepsol. should i go use prepsol to remove the paraffin?

know anything about hardening the front forks? i have lots nose dive when i brake hard.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 06:27:43 pm
:o :o :o
:BangHead:

PREPSOL not PARAFFIN

did you oil it when you were done rinsing and drying it?

I am about to put in some air filter oil... i thought paraffin would be alright, well at least it is better than petrol. i have prepsol. should i go use prepsol to remove the paraffin?

know anything about hardening the front forks? i have lots nose dive when i brake hard.

prepsol might help with the paraffin, i don't know - i just know that i'd rather wash the filter with prepsol than paraffin, to my knowledge paraffin will break it down over time, or so i've heard  :thumleft:

re the forks, grab a manual, figure out how to adjust them... tighten up the compression a bit  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 06:33:05 pm
prepsol might help with the paraffin, i don't know - i just know that i'd rather wash the filter with prepsol than paraffin, to my knowledge paraffin will break it down over time, or so i've heard  :thumleft:

re the forks, grab a manual, figure out how to adjust them... tighten up the compression a bit  :mwink:

I thought that petrol was bad for the filter and paraffin was ok. oh well. presol it is from now on.

read through the manual. not quite sure about the difference between preload and damping, will put everything to standard settings and start playing :) see you sat morning i reckon!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 10, 2010, 07:02:06 pm
HAHAHAH adam lol man, go buy some no toil air filter cleaner and oil
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 07:29:34 pm
HAHAHAH adam lol man, go buy some no toil air filter cleaner and oil


its e'spensive!!! i was trying to save a few bob to put in my piggy bank for my clarke tank... but yeah. reckon i'll just buy some real cleaner this week. i bought an oil filter and some anti-freeze :) cleaning my bike now. it's so pretty. and the racks louis put on them are rad.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 10, 2010, 07:36:01 pm
HAHAHAH adam lol man, go buy some no toil air filter cleaner and oil


its e'spensive!!! i was trying to save a few bob to put in my piggy bank for my clarke tank... but yeah. reckon i'll just buy some real cleaner this week. i bought an oil filter and some anti-freeze :) cleaning my bike now. it's so pretty. and the racks louis put on them are rad.

prepsol should be fine  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MrBig on June 10, 2010, 08:49:00 pm
HAHAHAH adam lol man, go buy some no toil air filter cleaner and oil


its e'spensive!!! i was trying to save a few bob to put in my piggy bank for my clarke tank... but yeah. reckon i'll just buy some real cleaner this week. i bought an oil filter and some anti-freeze :) cleaning my bike now. it's so pretty. and the racks louis put on them are rad.

prepsol should be fine  :thumleft:

+1
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 09:33:16 pm
Tires:

Mitas Front and Back?

or

TKC front and Heidi Back?

 ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 10, 2010, 09:43:58 pm
Dude...you CANNOT put a heidi on a drz!! Thats the most sissy tyre ever! (unless you talking about the heidi that N[]va has, the mx one)
Get some proper knobs, michelin T63 R500 from www.renz.co.za
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 10, 2010, 10:29:02 pm
Dude...you CANNOT put a heidi on a drz!! Thats the most sissy tyre ever! (unless you talking about the heidi that N[]va has, the mx one)
Get some proper knobs, michelin T63 R500 from www.renz.co.za
grow up not every one has the same requirements as you and not every one has daddy to buy new tires eh
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 10, 2010, 10:31:58 pm
Dude...you CANNOT put a heidi on a drz!! Thats the most sissy tyre ever! (unless you talking about the heidi that N[]va has, the mx one)
Get some proper knobs, michelin T63 R500 from www.renz.co.za
grow up not every one has the same requirements as you and not every one has daddy to buy new tires eh

Just FYI, my "daddy" doesnt buy me bike parts. I have to buy and fund  everything myself. (I think that comment was unnecessary btw)

Why do you think did I reccomend him the T63, that costs R500, instead of the heidi that costs over R1k?????
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 10, 2010, 10:37:46 pm
Dude...you CANNOT put a heidi on a drz!! Thats the most sissy tyre ever! (unless you talking about the heidi that N[]va has, the mx one)
Get some proper knobs, michelin T63 R500 from www.renz.co.za
grow up not every one has the same requirements as you and not every one has daddy to buy new tires eh

Just FYI, my "daddy" doesnt buy me bike parts. I have to buy and fund  everything myself. (I think that comment was unnecessary btw)

Why do you think did I reccomend him the T63, that costs R500, instead of the heidi that costs over R1k?????

The hedi will give 10% less grip and last 8x longer

in regards to: (I think that comment was unnecessary btw)

respect is hard earned and very quickly lost
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 10, 2010, 11:04:35 pm
tires = controversial.  :eek7:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 11, 2010, 07:56:38 am
Guys, this is the DRZ thread, go swing the handbags elsewhere...  ;)

Anyways, Milddog... You can get a Maxxis M6006 rear 130-80-18 from Topbox for R580, cant go wrong...

Front tyres... Im a bit out of the loop with front tyres... They tend to last quite long for me...  ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on June 11, 2010, 08:00:57 am
You can get a Maxxis M6006 rear 130-80-18 from Topbox for R580, cant go wrong...

Tracmac supply and fit the same tyre for R523,00  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on June 11, 2010, 09:23:47 am
know anything about hardening the front forks? i have lots nose dive when i brake hard.

Only one thing hardens your forks:

Decent fork springs.
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=32471.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=32471.0)

Adjusting the spring preload does exactly that: Adjusting the spring preload (and changing the ride height / negative travel / positive travel).
High preload on a soft spring reduces traction whilst not preventing nose diving and bottoming out on brakes and not curing brake shimmy.

Increasing compression damping t oreduce the nose dive makes the forks ill responding and your wrists sore. Also results in punctures (snake bike) & snapped spokes.

Increasing rebound damping to reduce nose dive does not work at all.

You can get a Maxxis M6006 rear 130-80-18 from Topbox for R580, cant go wrong...

Tracmac supply and fit the same tyre for R523,00  ;)
Hope they also have Djebel exhaust valves for the price of Citigolf ones. Then you must truely love them!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 11, 2010, 10:10:30 am
this thing is cool:

http://www.sprocketcalculator.com/

according to this deal I want to go 14-45 or so :) maybe not, just thought i'd share this neat little tool! it seems a back tooth is about 2% change while a front is 7%...

i ride my bike to and from work, and i have maxxis on the bike and its not fun sliding at the traffict lights before my first cup of coffee
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: the_wes on June 11, 2010, 10:15:28 am
this thing is cool:

http://www.sprocketcalculator.com/

according to this deal I want to go 14-45 or so :) maybe not, just thought i'd share this neat little tool! it seems a back tooth is about 2% change while a front is 7%...

i ride my bike to and from work, and i have maxxis on the bike and its not fun sliding at the traffict lights before my first cup of coffee

the mitas e-07 (i think - the heidi lookalike) will give you good tar grip and mileage, while maintaining decent offroad grip... a michelin t63 or desert, or a pirelli mt21, dunlop d606, maxxiss m6006 will all give you varying degrees of better offroad grip, at the expense of longevity and tar grip

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 11, 2010, 10:39:13 am
this thing is cool:

http://www.sprocketcalculator.com/

according to this deal I want to go 14-45 or so :) maybe not, just thought i'd share this neat little tool! it seems a back tooth is about 2% change while a front is 7%...

i ride my bike to and from work, and i have maxxis on the bike and its not fun sliding at the traffict lights before my first cup of coffee
I like the 15-41 which is the same +- as the 14-45 so makes sense to me
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 11, 2010, 11:37:52 am
Dont forget that gearing is also dependent on your tyre size...

A smaller (circumference) tyre gives you shorter/lower gearing.

So its pretty much trial and error and coming up with a perfect tyre/sprocket combo.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 11, 2010, 01:37:21 pm
I think this is my first non-hijack posting in this thread!

My new baby:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/DRZ%20400%20E/IMG_1693.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 11, 2010, 03:24:44 pm
hurmf chain a lil loose?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on June 11, 2010, 03:29:24 pm
Nice one MD!
Enjoy your weekend  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 11, 2010, 04:15:24 pm
hurmf chain a lil loose?

thanks jan! the chain is in appalling condition, should've seen the kak that was caked onto it when i got it. just cleaned the back rim as well, covered in chain wax and wat not...

my front brake leaks a tiny bit whenever i squeeze. there is a little notch on the side closest to me, so I an see it bubbling slightly if i squeeze hard. i opened it up and inside there is a little groove in the rubber so it looks like it's meant to be doing that???

in the 3rd pic from the bottom you can just make out a thing that could be a manual cam chain tensioner. is it one? how do i adjust it?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 11, 2010, 08:55:15 pm
we will sort it all out at my place tomorrow :-p

thats an ACCT not a MCCT
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 11, 2010, 10:13:29 pm
All the 2003 and later models had no issues with the ACCT
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 12, 2010, 05:15:21 am
yea, I replaced mine for peice of mind and a slight noise reduction
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 14, 2010, 12:11:31 pm
I usually run the Maxxis M6006

I have tried the 130 and 140 width. I couldnt find a 140 so I fit a 130 instead.

I wouldnt go smaller than 130 again... it looks crap and doesnt last
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on June 14, 2010, 12:38:35 pm
The DRZ E comes standard with the 120 backtyre.

You can install a 130 with no problems.

Just make sure before you install a 140 though...........if it is an
aggressive knobblie it might rub on the sides of the swingarm.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on June 14, 2010, 12:42:52 pm
You will typically get 130-80-18 or 140-80-18

I havent heard of DS tyres with 90 or 100 aspect ratio...

140 tyre fits the swingarm no problem. You are more likely to experience some chain rubbing...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 14, 2010, 12:50:18 pm
I always used a 120 Dunlop D606.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 14, 2010, 12:55:05 pm
the D606 comes with a 90 aspect ratio... but it seems the general consensus is 80 aspect ratio doesn't matter... i just saw a pic of an M6006, didn't realise what a bad condition mine is in; on the centre the knobs are the same height as the seem  :-\ :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on June 14, 2010, 01:36:10 pm
I usually run the Maxxis M6006

I have tried the 130 and 140 width. I couldnt find a 140 so I fit a 130 instead.

I wouldnt go smaller than 130 again... it looks crap and doesnt last

130 refers to width: does the other measurement matter, the aspect ratio? because mine is a 120 / 80, i want to go 130 or 140 wide, but also want to get a tire with x / 100, but cant find bigger than 130 / 90 or 140 / 90 neither are offered in x / 100.

If you get a 120/90x18 and a 120/80x18 same brand same thread pattern you will actually see that if fitted onto the same rim the /80's cross section is lower than the /90
Across different patterns and brands there is very little consistency. You'll find that one makes 120 is considerably narrower than another :o
Aggressive knobblies tend to be wider than 50/50's or stuff like Anakees of the same nominal width.
Kenda K270's are aleways narrow and look like knobbly pram wheels :evil6:

In theory a 120/80x18 is supposed to be 120mm wide, have a cross section height of 80% of its width and is supposed to go onto an 18" rim. The last bit is about the only thing that's 100% reliable.

It gets really crappy once you get bike tires in imperial sizes (old standard & new standard) as the "fractions" of the tire width rarely represent fractions of inches ::)

Correct me if I'm wrong:

2.75" tire translates to 80/90
3.00" to 90/90
3.25" (old) and 3.60" (new) to a 100/90
3.50" (old) and 4.10" (new) to a 110/90
4.00" and 4.25" (old) both replaced with 4.60" (new) looks just like a 120/90
5.00" (old) and 5.10" (new) put up as much bulk as a 130/90

There's also other rubbish like 4.50" & 4.75"
Some manufacturers still offer both old and new imperial standard tires ???

Rules:
On most bikes you can fit one size wider than OEM.
Check for enough clearance ALL AROUND the tire sides and top. You should have at least five millimetres on the sides and a centimetre between blocks and wheel cover / swingarm. Don't forget to check clearance to chain guards.
Check for clearance at full compression of suspension. Exhaust! :o
Measuring something before the tire is fitted and inflated does not help a lot. The rim width has influence on the width of the fitted tire.

At the end of the day it's your responsibility to make sure the tire fits.
A fitment centre will often fit whatever you tell them to. If you want them to take the tire back and give you another one that actually fits it might be a different story.

A wider tire of the same pattern and brand giving you better mileage than a narrower one due to it being wider is rubbish.
On the same rim the contact patch is actually slightly narrower.
The reason for the longer tire life of the wider tire is usually a harder compound as wider tires are designed for heavier, more powerful bikes.
The longer life comes obviously at the price of reduced cold & wet tar traction.
The wider tire often has advantages in sand.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on June 17, 2010, 08:56:04 am
informative post LeCap
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 19, 2010, 01:02:57 pm
check out this cool motard info site, they sell ready-made motard kits for DRZ, DR, KTM and husaberg :)

http://home.exetel.com.au/bkm/cast-wheels-motard-drz/index.htm
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 19, 2010, 03:40:25 pm
I went, well tried to, go for a ride with crossed-up, wes, michiel and A2J. I got there fine, then when they all sped off my bike wouldn't start. Push started it and went through to TMC on Waterkant. Solonoid was dieing. Suzuki wanted to charge R750 for one. So Tim and Krogh suggested buying one from Motomia's service shop just around the corner. That set me back R100 and my bike is now rolling again  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JamesXRV on June 19, 2010, 08:31:56 pm
Cool. A boer always maak Ů plan. We must still do that potjie. No solonoids needed    ;-)   
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: A2J on June 19, 2010, 08:35:58 pm
so then we'll see you next time again and you can enjoy the ride with us'
keep well.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Crossed-up on June 19, 2010, 08:53:31 pm
No apologies for sending you home.  It would have been impossible for you to go into the quarry.  You would have had to keep the engine running for 3 hours.

Glad to hear it was so easily fixed. 

Next time.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: buzzlightyear on June 19, 2010, 08:54:02 pm
What soleniod was that, one the starter?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 19, 2010, 09:15:34 pm
Cool. A boer always maak Ů plan. We must still do that potjie. No solonoids needed    ;-)  

I was thinking of your today, you've been very quiet lately. Let's do the potjie soon :)

No apologies for sending you home.  It would have been impossible for you to go into the quarry.  You would have had to keep the engine running for 3 hours.

I know! When i stopped on waterkant to wait for tim the bike stopped and started just like it should have, the problem had fixed itself, which did make me kinda sad. but i needed to sort it out anyway, so we diagnosed and sorted it then.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on June 21, 2010, 07:45:53 am
Not enough oil in a dry sump engines reservoir on cold start is in almost every single case caused by operator error not by a mechanical fault.

Fix:

NEVER idle the bike on the side stand especially not before switching off and checking oil. The amount of oil that is not picked up by the scavenger pump when the bike is on the side stand increases, in some bikes by as much as half a litre (XT600).

This actually does not cause any problems, not even on a DRZ with a rather mininalistic stockpile of lubricant.

Even if your dipstick does not show any oil (because some of it remained in the sump) there is still about a litre (DRZ) in your oil tank. below the reach of the dipstick.
This oil in the tank is sufficient for startup. Just make sure you start the bike standing UPRIGHT NOT ON THE SIDE STAND as in this case the oil in the tank will immediately get replenished by the scavenger pump.

BTW it's nonsense to wait three minutes after shutdown before pulling the dipstick of a dry sump engine. How should any oil make it into the reservoir over these three minutes? The amount of oil sticking to the walls of the reservoir is rather minimal. Switch off, pull, wipe, dip, check.

BTW: If you have oil draining out of your reservoir overnight you should have a good look at your oil pump. The only way the oil can drain is as leakage past your pressure pump rotor unless there is further serious damage to the system.
Excessive leakage of the pressure pump will decrease pumping pressure and volume and sooner or later cause kark like running the big end. A good oil pump is more crucial to engine health than the ultimate fully synthetic super performance racing oil.
Check oil level after shut down following the correct procedure. Check again next morning before starting. The drop in oil level should not be more than marginal. If your oil is gone in the morning get your pump measured / replaced.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 21, 2010, 01:17:55 pm
Mmmm... my oil level had drained RIGHT out between saturday midday when i started removing the radiators and sunday evening when I put them back on and rode the bike again.

ALSO: Does anyone have a spare oil dipstick? The thread on mine is badly mangled so I have to use a pair of pliers to get it in or out, and its a mission!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 21, 2010, 05:54:11 pm
Mmmm... my oil level had drained RIGHT out between saturday midday when i started removing the radiators and sunday evening when I put them back on and rode the bike again.

ALSO: Does anyone have a spare oil dipstick? The thread on mine is badly mangled so I have to use a pair of pliers to get it in or out, and its a mission!
My oil level also dropped even after an hour or two. In fact it has to drain down how else would you get fresh oil in your motor after a service  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on June 22, 2010, 12:25:41 am
Mmmm... my oil level had drained RIGHT out between saturday midday when i started removing the radiators and sunday evening when I put them back on and rode the bike again.

ALSO: Does anyone have a spare oil dipstick? The thread on mine is badly mangled so I have to use a pair of pliers to get it in or out, and its a mission!
My oil level also dropped even after an hour or two. In fact it has to drain down how else would you get fresh oil in your motor after a service  ???

The pressure pump is doing it for you, and it's fetching the oil from exactly where you fill it. Dry sump, clever boy!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 22, 2010, 07:29:55 am
Mmmm... my oil level had drained RIGHT out between saturday midday when i started removing the radiators and sunday evening when I put them back on and rode the bike again.

ALSO: Does anyone have a spare oil dipstick? The thread on mine is badly mangled so I have to use a pair of pliers to get it in or out, and its a mission!
My oil level also dropped even after an hour or two. In fact it has to drain down how else would you get fresh oil in your motor after a service  ???

The pressure pump is doing it for you, and it's fetching the oil from exactly where you fill it. Dry sump, clever boy!
Ok but if you drain the oil about 3/4 comes out of the motor and less out of the frame so not oil sits in the frame and the motor is not dry. ANyhow I much prefer a sight glass  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on June 22, 2010, 09:55:14 am
The oil in the crankcase does bugger all besides sitting there and waiting to be picked up by the scavenger pump.

If leakage of the pressure pump increases to the point that all oil has drained out of the tank into the sump before startup your engine runs without oil pressure until the scavenger has pumped enough oil into the tank to allow the pressure pump to work.
Your crankcase can be as full as you want it yur engine will still seize.

Check your oil pump.

Oil pump R 1.5k, engine rebuild R 15k. A no brainer IMHO
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 22, 2010, 10:27:52 am
Check your oil pump.

Oil pump R 1.5k, engine rebuild R 15k. A no brainer IMHO
+1000 have to agree
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on June 22, 2010, 11:04:38 am
Check your oil pump.

Oil pump R 1.5k, engine rebuild R 15k. A no brainer IMHO
+1000 have to agree

So where and how do I have my oil pump checked?? :(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 28, 2010, 09:19:52 pm
Throttle cables routed wrong, some wiring in the way etc etc.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 01, 2010, 09:36:12 am
What implement do I use to remove the front sprocket? I have a 24 spanner for the back, and my shifting spanner (which goes to 25 or 27 I think) doesn't fit over the front nut.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on July 01, 2010, 10:09:29 am
What implement do I use to remove the front sprocket? I have a 24 spanner for the back, and my shifting spanner (which goes to 25 or 27 I think) doesn't fit over the front nut.

30mm socket and power bar
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 01, 2010, 10:55:44 am
I just use a big monkey wrench and hold the rear brake down :-p
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on July 02, 2010, 08:45:32 am
Anyone fitted a "Goose tube" to their Z's?
Just can't seem to find a place for it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on July 02, 2010, 09:57:37 am
T-bar is a part of a socket wrench kit.
You use it for crude application of raw force.
That's why it's also sometimnes called breaker bar.
Breaks stubborn bolts loose. Sometimes breaks stubborn bolts. Cheaper to replace than the ratchet wrench if the breaker bar breaks ;D

Bolts: (Can't find the original thread)
The first digit of the x.x mark on non stainless bolts stands for the ultimate tensile strength of the bolt x100MPa
the second digit gives the factor to calculate the yield tensile strength of the bolt.

The ultimate tensile strength gives the force that ruptures the bolt.
The yield tensile strength gives the force that will permanently deform the bolt.

Examples:
Your 4.6 bolt: T&he ultimate strength is 400 MPa
The yield strength is: 0.6 x 400MPa = 240MPa
This lies anywhere between wet spaghetti and quality chewing gum.
The bolts will readily snap if you only show them a spanner.
They are made by children in Chinese backyard sweatshops using a 90% recycled cardboard 10% zinc alloy that only visibly resembles steel ::)

Compare: A decent 8.8 (pretty much an industry standard) bolt:
The ultimate strength is 800MPa
The yield strength is 0.8 x 800MPa = 640MPa
It is almost three times as strong as the rubbish they sold you :o

And now a high tensile 12.9 (highest grade commercialy available) bolt:
The ultimate strength is 1200MPa
The yield strength is 1080MPa
4.5 times stronger than your Chinese zinc cardboard fasteners ;D

Stainless (actually corrosion resistant) bolts only give a quality grade ranging from A1 (lowest) to A5 (highest) and the ultimate strength in x10 MPa to tell them apart from the others. A typical denomination would be A2-70.
It's important to know a few things about these stainles steels before wildly bolting a bike together using them:
The quality grading refers to corrosion resistance and NOT necessarily to strength of the bolts although higher quality grade corrosion resistant bolts usually have a higher ultimate strength too.
Commercially widespread are the qualities A2 and A4. A2 is permanently resistant to corrosion at room temperature if exposed to the elements (NOT sea water, it will show surface corrosion). A4 is often dubbed "acid resistant" and does not corrode if exposed to  sea water or weak acids.
Typical quality stainless bolts would be A2-70 and A4-80
The yield strength of the corrosion resistant steels used is only about 60% of their ultimate strength.
Means although an A4-80 bolt has the same ultimate strength as an 8.8 it has considerably less yield strength (480MPa vs. 640MPa) which obviously is much the more important figure.
A further important issue of stainless bolts is their increased tendency to develop fatigue failures. A good reason not to replace any structural fasteners (brakes, chassis, suspension, engine mounts, handlebar clamps etc.) on your bike with stainless bolts.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 02, 2010, 09:58:31 am
Anyone fitted a "Goose tube" to their Z's?
Just can't seem to find a place for it.
Have two int he garage will take a look later
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 02, 2010, 12:23:26 pm
Anyone fitted a "Goose tube" to their Z's?
Just can't seem to find a place for it.

I am going to put one on the left, opposite to the exhaust. I just need to bend a piece of metal for a bracket. it seemed to fit when I was holding it there, and needed minimal metal work to make it fit.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on July 04, 2010, 12:49:05 pm
1/4" drive socket sets will not make you happy as soon as you dip deeper into mechanics. They are too flimsy for serious work beyond sprocket covers & alternator or clutch covers (Even top of the range like Stahlwille).

Best is to start with a 3/8" of very good quality like Gedore.
Gedore guaratees their stuff and it's widely supported in SA.
Lots of the cheaper brands give warranties that are not worth the glossy cardboard they are printed on. You will have to mail your broken socket to the US of A or (even worse :o ) to the manufacturer  in China. ::)
Also note that NO tool is guaranteed against breakage from abuse such as using excessive force.
Lots of bike engines can only be assembled & disassembled using 3/8" sockets as the drive ends of 1/2" are too fat to fit into recesses.
Some maintenance work is also impossible with 1/2" torque wrenches & sockets. (KLR camshaft journal caps)

Ideally get a 3/8" drive set with hex sockets from 8mm to 19mm and allen key sockets from 3mm to 10mm. Add Torx if you have a Beemer.

Next get a 1/2" ratchet & breaker bar, two extensions 100mm and 250mm and the three or six sockets you need for your bike for axle nuts & suspension bolts. (Usually 12, 14, 17, 19, 22, 24). You can often get this personalised kit in quality like Gedore for roughly the same as you pay for one of those 122 pieces of chromium plated shite sets from the Veri Muck store or Mac Crow.

The difference is that you will break the cheapo stuff you need quick quick and after six months will sit with a set of useless sizes of tools in a cheap plastic box.
The quality stuff will last and if you really manage to burst a socket you can replace single items at any time.

There is numerous other differences between cheap and good tools:
Good ones will NEVER be cheap to buy but cheap to own as they last a lifetime.
They fit well and don't ruin bolts.
They don't rust.
They achieve strength from good materials used, not from plenty of material used. A good socket will reach a bolt in a recess, a cheap one does not.

If you have the choice (you do with quality tool manufactures like Gedore, Hazet & Stahlwille) use hexagonal sockets rather than poly 12. Poly12 are marginally faster and nicer to work with in an industrial environment and have less tendency to seize on mutilated bolt heads but have disadvantages in workshop use as they are faster to slip off damaged bolt heads or to ruin extremely tight bolt heads.

Very few places you can't reach with the 3/8" sockets. Usually only two or three 8mm hex or 5mm allen engine cover bolts on the whole bike. Get a T-handle with the relevant size socket or a loose allen key in the meantime. Get a 1/4" socket set last, it's a luxury item.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 04, 2010, 09:27:13 pm
Thanks guys :) This should be made into a sticky of sort or other...

I was fairly relcutant to buy the more expensive brands, and figured I'd try and get away with buying only the sizes that I need and saving fifty or a hundred rand where I could, by buying slightly cheaper stuff. But that fifty or hundred rand is worth it because good tools seem to last 15+ years. And it is my birthday today :)

Which shops are decent in terms of helpful/wellstocked/decent price?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 05, 2010, 12:59:50 pm
Thanks guys :) This should be made into a sticky of sort or other...

I was fairly relcutant to buy the more expensive brands, and figured I'd try and get away with buying only the sizes that I need and saving fifty or a hundred rand where I could, by buying slightly cheaper stuff. But that fifty or hundred rand is worth it because good tools seem to last 15+ years. And it is my birthday today :)

Which shops are decent in terms of helpful/wellstocked/decent price?
When It comes to bike parts and tools generaly saving bucks will cost you bucks further down the line, at least thats the way I feel about it.

Within reason though! right tool/part for the job, simple as that
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on July 06, 2010, 09:30:19 am
Thanks guys :) This should be made into a sticky of sort or other...

I was fairly relcutant to buy the more expensive brands, and figured I'd try and get away with buying only the sizes that I need and saving fifty or a hundred rand where I could, by buying slightly cheaper stuff. But that fifty or hundred rand is worth it because good tools seem to last 15+ years. And it is my birthday today :)

Which shops are decent in terms of helpful/wellstocked/decent price?

Pro tools nothing beats Stahlwille & Hazet. Lekker expensive but remember it's a lifetime investment.

Next best is Gedore. There is a few others which might be similar quality but I have not used them.

My comprehensive list of local quality tool suppliers (http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 06, 2010, 08:54:30 pm
When It comes to bike parts and tools generaly saving bucks will cost you bucks further down the line, at least thats the way I feel about it.

Don't let those guys that were giving you kak about cheap HID's read that sentence  :biggrin:

The orange guys just scored a cool goal...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: wrench on July 06, 2010, 09:35:15 pm
Quite honestly, I don't think anything beats Snap-on, Beta and S-K and  1/4 inch socket sets are invaluable tools in my workshop.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 06, 2010, 11:14:43 pm
When It comes to bike parts and tools generaly saving bucks will cost you bucks further down the line, at least thats the way I feel about it.

Don't let those guys that were giving you kak about cheap HID's read that sentence  :biggrin:

The orange guys just scored a cool goal...

they are the same HID's that get re-branded and sold for top prices
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on July 07, 2010, 09:41:49 am
...1/4 inch socket sets are invaluable tools in my workshop.

That's for a pro, yes and you also have 3/8", right?

A DIY mechanic armed with a 1/2" and a 1/4" set only will ruin the small ones in no time.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on July 07, 2010, 01:47:16 pm
...1/4 inch socket sets are invaluable tools in my workshop.

That's for a pro, yes and you also have 3/8", right?

A DIY mechanic armed with a 1/2" and a 1/4" set only will ruin the small ones in no time.
i did my entire XR build with only a 1/4 and a 1/2 inch set!  ;D 
i agree with you though... 3/8'' is probably better as a start as the 1/4'' did take a bit of strain on some of the tighter bolts (didn't break anything tho).
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on July 08, 2010, 11:19:40 pm
Those are some big ass handguards!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: AntonDP on July 09, 2010, 10:51:02 am
Cool
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Jules on July 09, 2010, 01:06:32 pm
Gotta love guys that work on their bikes "inside" the house

Ill get Bliksemd if I try that!



 :thumleft:

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: backwheelbandit on July 09, 2010, 02:06:22 pm
looks awesome
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 09, 2010, 02:29:52 pm
Gotta love guys that work on their bikes "inside" the house

Ill get Bliksemd if I try that!



 :thumleft:



I am house-sitting for someone else  :o hehehe...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Jules on July 09, 2010, 04:31:10 pm
Gotta love guys that work on their bikes "inside" the house

Ill get Bliksemd if I try that!



 :thumleft:



I am house-sitting for someone else  :o hehehe...

Even Better

Hope you leave them some burnouts to remember you by!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 09, 2010, 05:15:11 pm
Cover up not to get wet? The ballast I mean.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 09, 2010, 05:39:17 pm
Cover up not to get wet? The ballast I mean.

OOPS! hadn't considered that it may not be waterproof. mmmm.... Rookie error. Will maak a plan. probably a plastic bag type of plan.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Moondog on July 09, 2010, 06:16:07 pm
Cover up not to get wet? The ballast I mean.

OOPS! hadn't considered that it may not be waterproof. mmmm.... Rookie error. Will maak a plan. probably a plastic bag type of plan.

My HIDs have been through plenty rain, and the ocasional wash with a hose - connectors are generally water resistant (rubber gators) and balast seems to handle it. I've not had a problem (yet?) - but I would not suggest submerging them  :o
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on July 13, 2010, 11:54:45 am
What size plug spanners does this bike take? I am borrowing from a friend and don't have time to work it out before I need to go fetch them!?!?!

DRZ simming = fail.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=52677.0
17 or wait 13...
16mm
any how what ever the size I have one you can borrow

fixed.

C coded plugs / M10x1.25 thread: 16mm hex
D coded plugs / M12x1.25 thread: 18mm hex  or 16mm hex
B coded plugs / M14x1.25: 21mm hex

Best to buy a pipe wrench 16x17 inexpensive and effective. You will be able to use a 22mm socket or spanner on the outside hex of the 17mm end (the good quality ones) or put a offcut of a 17mm allen key in and use a 17mm tool
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 13, 2010, 12:00:12 pm
Loaned him my tool, R50 from midas I think
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: dirtWarp on July 13, 2010, 12:16:14 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/RxI3tvjsblI/AAAAAAAACmw/DIirFWz8X08/s400/1992%2BParis%2BDakar.jpg) :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 13, 2010, 12:55:39 pm
Thanks n[]va. will go buy one as soon as i have cash.

is there a way for water to be in my oil and in my cylinder that doesn't involve going via the rings and gaskets? i have water both sides of the piston and am worried this means i need to do a rebuild.

WTF? Whats happening?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 13, 2010, 01:12:16 pm
OK, now I feel better. Thought it was Murphy's law w.r.t selling! :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 02:23:20 pm
OK, now I feel better. Thought it was Murphy's law w.r.t selling! :)

no no the bike has been magic. it was user error! sorry i drowned your bike  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: SteveKLE on July 13, 2010, 06:42:22 pm
quick note ... with the current weather, do not leave a bike with just plain water. Either use antifreeze or drain the water.

Water expands when it freezes and I already know of a number of people who have suffered cracked engines due the the temps dropping below freezing.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on July 14, 2010, 06:43:24 pm
I'll be riding the alternate route this weekend. who's with me? :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Crossed-up on July 14, 2010, 09:57:56 pm
You're developing a taste for the Swartland water?

There's all sorts of riding happening this weekend.  Let's see.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: superfoxi on July 14, 2010, 10:33:38 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/RxI3tvjsblI/AAAAAAAACmw/DIirFWz8X08/s400/1992%2BParis%2BDakar.jpg) :biggrin:

Lucky Explorer?!?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Slowmow on July 15, 2010, 08:36:13 pm
Please post a pic or two of the light in action. Down the road, against a wall. Use dim in one set of pics and bright in another set.

Will do tonight, but the difference between dim and bright is simply the angle of the light :) as far as I can tell there's no difference in light emission.

No pics yet?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on July 19, 2010, 11:32:17 am
Decided to build a small screen that would go with the new Trailtech X2 headlights. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=51592.0
So I bought 2 pieces of Polycarbonate which I had cut to size, for the princely sum of R65.
I decided to echo the shape of the headlight surround - straight sides or slight angled would have looked shitty.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000085.jpg)
I drilled a series of overlapping 6mm holes in a semi circle, then filed the cutout smooth. This was for the headlight as I wasn't sure what height I wanted the windshield to be. With the cutout, I would be able to lower it by 40mm.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000087.jpg)
Then out with the heat gun and carefully heated and bent the shield. This took at least 20 mins as I did not want to overheat and bubble the Polycarbonate.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000090.jpg)
Then it was a simple matter of marking the mounting holes and drilling them and fitting with S/S bolts and nuts. Here you can also see the semi circular cut-out for the headlight . Yes, I know the one bolt is too long!

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000089.jpg)
The finished product. Yes, I will replace the 2 upper socket heads with round heads!
Took it for a spin - works pretty well. No helmet buffeting and it keeps the wind off me up to about neck level.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000088.jpg)
From a distance. Not too shabby for R48 (incl botls and nuts)!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 05, 2010, 03:17:57 pm
What exhaust options do I have for a DRZ in CPT? I just need the end can bit :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 05, 2010, 03:20:26 pm
What exhaust options do I have for a DRZ in CPT? I just need a slip-on/end can!

well you just coated your stock one..... and went for jetting today.... so the only reason you would want one is to get more power?

Do you want a high powered bike or a reliable bike?

Im gonna stop playing mom now >.<
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 05, 2010, 03:52:10 pm
ah oki nice one
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 07, 2010, 05:50:37 pm
GPS?

No, I just need to make friends with people who can give road names when they give directions.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 07, 2010, 05:58:05 pm
GPS?

No, I just need to make friends with people who can give road names when they give directions.

There are no road names in the dunes
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 07, 2010, 06:00:57 pm
There are no road names in the dunes

There aren't any YZ gearboxes either  >:D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: ChrisMann on August 07, 2010, 10:57:30 pm
This poll is a great idea from MDog on how to handle these type of issues.

Good on you to accept the outcome.

 
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 07, 2010, 11:39:11 pm
My zook lives! <3
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 08, 2010, 06:50:52 pm
My zook lives! <3

WA-HAY!!!!! nice. need someone to test-ride it, just check it still wheelies properly and all?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 08, 2010, 06:58:01 pm
My zook lives! <3

WA-HAY!!!!! nice. need someone to test-ride it, just check it still wheelies properly and all?
spoke to soooon :-p

spent the whole day polishing and washing it till it shines :D

have decided I'm a keep the zook as my project bike lol >.<

but seems my fuel cap IS allowing water through cause I ended up with water in my fuel and will need to clean it all out tomorrow. did a good 400km last night after leaving town at about 1am ^.^

love that bike
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 13, 2010, 10:35:23 am
so it looks like I needs to stop behaving like an overprotective mother as the drz seems to be running fine!

Got Gatvol this morning and decided to ride it to Andy's work shop and show him and Bradleys the smoke, lil cheeky fucker ran 120% no smoke no smell no nothing........  ::)

so maybe it was just residue from the cracked gasket or I dunno, gonna keep riding it and see what happens
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on August 13, 2010, 11:35:48 am
Good news J  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 13, 2010, 12:57:58 pm
Good news J  :thumleft:

:thumleft:

going lekka, swung past Tim's he skeems its fine and I'm over reacting :-p
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 13, 2010, 02:48:46 pm
:thumleft:

going lekka, swung past Tim's he skeems its fine and I'm over reacting :-p

Tim's cool like that. Very level headed and calm. Problem is when he gets worried then it's normally a serious issue.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 13, 2010, 03:12:57 pm
but didn't feel like the 1 hour long trip AGAIN.
1 farking hour!!!!

you def need a n HP boost somewhere o.O
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 13, 2010, 03:42:20 pm
you def need a n HP boost somewhere o.O

a what?

the problem is i am driving my grandfather's van around. it's heavy on fuel and slow and there's no radio and i don't feel like sitting in traffic for someone else's mistake.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 13, 2010, 03:46:07 pm
you def need a n HP boost somewhere o.O

a what?

the problem is i am driving my grandfather's van around. it's heavy on fuel and slow and there's no radio and i don't feel like sitting in traffic for someone else's mistake.
oh I thoguht it was taking u that long on a bike >.<
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 15, 2010, 07:04:12 pm
I have not posted on here for a while. I am out riding and have pics to prove it  :ricky:

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/TGgcqWPy7dI/AAAAAAAADZ4/E1XS-f6aZiE/s400/SANY0004.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/83w1WS6fyXoFmvw73VJusA?feat=embedwebsite)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/TGgcr0UNKjI/AAAAAAAADZ8/T_ffeiBSkYk/s400/SANY0008.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/ZDy0nGC115jxOjIG7qYgog?feat=embedwebsite)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/TGgefyNipHI/AAAAAAAADaQ/tAJct0BcDH0/s400/SANY0005.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/AmLUOSe5mUtA8z7xlbsKQQ?feat=embedwebsite)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 16, 2010, 09:06:00 am
love that tellow bathtub :D

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on August 16, 2010, 09:20:27 am
Whats that fluffy yellow thing all about...?

:evil6:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 16, 2010, 09:48:27 am
die vraag is, waar is jou fluffy geel ding? ek sien hom nie in jou helmet cam vids nie
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 16, 2010, 01:21:24 pm
I really like the tank :) I want one... Too bad they're so espensive!

Bus, are you even on your zook anymore? stop photobombing and ride your bike.

I am going to put an RMZ front fender on my bike. Will this work? Will it look as cool as I think it will? I don't want my bike to develop more problems than it already has. N[]va diagnosed it with downs' syndrome a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 16, 2010, 02:03:37 pm
Sidetrack had a black and yellow kit he interchanged on his S model, with RMZ fenders, looked much better. I just did not get to it. Looks waayyy better than the std flapper.

But it doesn't beat my DT180, it looks like a spietkop when your driving, waving around and all.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 16, 2010, 02:10:59 pm
But it doesn't beat my DT180, it looks like a spietkop when your driving, waving around and all.
:imaposer: hehehe.

I am hoping to get a black RMZ fender up front. i reckon it'll look awesome. this bike is great hey :) goes like stink! I was power-wheelie-ing this weekend. very cool.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 16, 2010, 02:16:21 pm
But it doesn't beat my DT180, it looks like a spietkop when your driving, waving around and all.
:imaposer: hehehe.

I am hoping to get a black RMZ fender up front. i reckon it'll look awesome. this bike is great hey :) goes like stink! I was power-wheelie-ing this weekend. very cool.


Then you must try the XRR! Especially down by the coast I believe it will be awesome. Up here and without it being set yet, it just want to flip over if you give too much throttle!!

Glad you're enjoying it!!  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 18, 2010, 10:12:25 am
so, after un-drowning my bike it has been riding great. HOWEVER. i checked the oil and there is white foam inside the dip-stick hole, which i am told is water. what do i do about it? drain oil and put in fresh?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 18, 2010, 10:35:50 am
so, after un-drowning my bike it has been riding great. HOWEVER. i checked the oil and there is white foam inside the dip-stick hole, which i am told is water. what do i do about it? drain oil and put in fresh?
you are over reacting =]

I am planning to do an engine flush before my next oil change you are welcome to join in, probably next week thursday
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 18, 2010, 10:59:20 am
you are over reacting =]

I am planning to do an engine flush before my next oil change you are welcome to join in, probably next week thursday

that's what i do :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 18, 2010, 11:09:34 am
you are over reacting =]

I am planning to do an engine flush before my next oil change you are welcome to join in, probably next week thursday

that's what i do :)
me too ;)

wnna join us for lunch today?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 18, 2010, 09:44:49 pm
:drif: :drif:

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54427.0;attach=87718;image)

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54427.0;attach=87716;image)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 18, 2010, 09:48:14 pm
wow thats one pimp drz!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 18, 2010, 09:50:43 pm
Those are the rallye fairings superfoxi sells :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 18, 2010, 10:21:11 pm
Those are the rallye fairings superfoxi sells :mwink:

How much? what does it include/come with/add to the bike?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 18, 2010, 10:26:11 pm
Those are the rallye fairings superfoxi sells :mwink:

How much? what does it include/come with/add to the bike?

PM him bro! Not that expensive actually
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 19, 2010, 12:47:35 pm
wow thats one pimp drz!

but does it come in yellow?


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/241880/DakarDRZ2.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on August 19, 2010, 02:19:45 pm
some more.... ;D

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/DSC02483.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/suzuki_2007.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/DakarDRZ1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 19, 2010, 02:21:16 pm
You okes suck, i already am like R10k short of my mods list!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on August 19, 2010, 04:50:57 pm
Seeing that you guys have a lot of time to discuss k@k, I need your help and input. I am in the process of doing exactly this. I am busy designing and building a prototype (I'll post pics later) of a rally fairing for my DRZ. I don't like the AT twin light arrangement, I am looking for a headlight arrangement something like the 990 or 690 KTM. Do you guys now where I can get something like the Trailtech X2 headlights for a good price
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on August 19, 2010, 05:12:18 pm
order it from Thumpertalk - much cheaper.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on August 19, 2010, 05:20:44 pm
order it from Thumpertalk - much cheaper.
Thanks I'll have a look, is that where you bought yours ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on August 19, 2010, 05:27:28 pm
Yip - plus new plastics - arrived in about 10 days.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 19, 2010, 09:38:35 pm
3 DRZ heavily modified
(http://www.motorkari.cz/multimedia/2006122201/00000015050.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 19, 2010, 09:48:18 pm
How much does a bike end up weighing once kitted like that? Are they DRZ's in the same way that WRC has Subarus and VWs? As in, they have the same outer body but that is where the similarities end?!?!?! Or are these bikes still pretty much DRZs?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on August 20, 2010, 07:21:34 am
How much does a bike end up weighing once kitted like that? Are they DRZ's in the same way that WRC has Subarus and VWs? As in, they have the same outer body but that is where the similarities end?!?!?! Or are these bikes still pretty much DRZs?
Frame and motor, everything else has changed. I mean look at the forks and bodywork.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on August 20, 2010, 07:26:11 am
If you closely look at all the improvements, it made a great bike just so much better IMHO. The xtra weight prolly helps for traction in sands and at high speeds.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on August 20, 2010, 02:24:36 pm
Can anyone give me the parts number for the throttle stop screw on the E-model carb? Suzuki are unable to work out what I mean and I can't read a parts fiche well enough to find the fark thing. My carb is missing the stop screw, so when my bike is 'pinned', it's because the carb slide is touching the top of the carb.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on August 20, 2010, 03:25:28 pm
Can anyone give me the parts number for the throttle stop screw on the E-model carb? Suzuki are unable to work out what I mean and I can't read a parts fiche well enough to find the fark thing. My carb is missing the stop screw, so when my bike is 'pinned', it's because the carb slide is touching the top of the carb.
Have you tried checking the schematics on Thumpertalk
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 26, 2010, 02:48:37 pm
I will be doing a major service on mine this afternoon if you want to join in?

As a matter of habit I check spoke tension every service, quick and easy to do
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 27, 2010, 08:04:12 am
18 is stock for the offroads. 17 for the retard
yep yep

easy way to to remember:
tard zook:
(http://gallery.calebhammel.com/storage/Post-03/owned-retard.jpg)

normal zook:
(http://sscratch.smugmug.com/photos/87043685_vpHaA-M.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: XL500R on September 05, 2010, 10:21:45 am
 :ricky: For comfort and safety one needs to spend a bit more to get quality stuff. I need to change my front tyre too - current one (Continentale Enduro Pro) does not "feel" right / comfortable in corners and especially on dirt. Where did you buy your new front and at what price?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on September 05, 2010, 10:26:52 am
When the Mitas rears come in i'l be hard pushed to move away from TKC80's in the front. I have only ever used the Scorpion or TKC in the front as well so don't have front end experience regarding different brands....but i do read , watch & learn! No reason to use anything else! :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: tau on September 05, 2010, 06:06:55 pm
I use full on MX tires front on tubeliss rims, they are difficult to seat, but the improvement when braking and cornering is great. I have a Dunlop on the front at the moment that is beter than the TKC offroad, however I am a bitscared of it at speeds on tar.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Pistonpete on September 05, 2010, 07:13:05 pm
You running full MX front tyre on a 1200GS :o
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: tau on September 05, 2010, 09:46:12 pm
hp 2 mx tyre
Gs adventure tkc
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: KTMjedi on September 06, 2010, 10:03:11 am
You running full MX front tyre on a 1200GS :o
I know of 2 guys on HP2's who are running the Mitas C-21 as it is a full MX/Enduro tyre but is also DOT rated....handles like nothing else off road BUT chips on TAR especially wet TAR!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: JamesXRV on September 08, 2010, 10:22:15 pm
Geoff is the best, a gem in Pinelands...built a few pipes for me over the years.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: acidfreak on September 21, 2010, 11:55:20 am
Subscribed...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: acidfreak on September 22, 2010, 12:21:46 pm
Does anyone of you guys whom fitted a rack on the back have the specs... I would like to put one toghether this weekend but can't find specs for one anywhere?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: acidfreak on September 27, 2010, 08:04:51 am
That will be great!! Will really appreciate!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on September 27, 2010, 12:58:45 pm
That will be great!! Will really appreciate!

Will do it sometime soon. If you can, make 2 or 3 and then sell or give the other one's to Wilddogs. Guys STRUGGLE to find racks. I bought a bike with one on it already. nice.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: acidfreak on September 27, 2010, 01:03:23 pm
That will be great!! Will really appreciate!

Will do it sometime soon. If you can, make 2 or 3 and then sell or give the other one's to Wilddogs. Guys STRUGGLE to find racks. I bought a bike with one on it already. nice.

Cool!! I will build one and put up some picks to check if anyone else would like one, if it looks good and isn't that crazy to build I will make a couple of them..  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 28, 2010, 11:08:14 am
Here are some interesting links - great DRZ review plus mods done. Aussie article.

http://www.drz400e.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=34&Itemid=57

On the left, look under resources and click on the links.
They will be downloaded as .pdf files.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on October 05, 2010, 09:08:46 pm
Greetings!

new to WD, just getting started and finding my way around.
i have the SM. will take a few snaps and post them soon.
great to see a dedicated DRZ thread!

Gino
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on October 05, 2010, 09:15:12 pm
greetings and welcome!

if its not yellow its an orange
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on October 05, 2010, 09:19:38 pm
haha, its black as night!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on October 05, 2010, 10:10:07 pm
haha, its black as night!

HAHA. cool. Welcome!!! those SM's are super sexy in black :) i'd put in an FCR carb, but i am a mullet like that.  post pics soon :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: acidfreak on October 06, 2010, 07:57:26 am
Welcome!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 06, 2010, 08:08:43 am
Welcome Gino!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on October 06, 2010, 09:37:10 am
thanks gents!

as soon as i have a gap i will take some snaps and post them.
had the bike for over a year now, but still haven't taken any pics...hahaha. too busy riding.

it is standard except for a sticker kit  ;)

chat soon
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 06, 2010, 10:25:38 am
thanks gents!

as soon as i have a gap i will take some snaps and post them.
had the bike for over a year now, but still haven't taken any pics...hahaha. too busy riding.

it is standard except for a sticker kit  ;)

chat soon

Remove the PAIR valve and carb solenoid first - a 1 hour max job and you'll be pleasantly surprised at the improved throttle response.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on October 06, 2010, 10:40:29 am
i am planning on selling the little beast soon, so will leave it at factory spec for the next lucky guy to start tinkering.

but thanks  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on October 19, 2010, 09:47:32 am
I had the happy pleasure of fitting a yoshi full system RS2 thingie to my bike on Sunday evening. the bogging seems to have stopped.

my front wheel is noticabely lighter. bouncey even. should i be concerned? i am re-jetting with julian on the 26th. can't wait.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on October 19, 2010, 09:53:37 am
I also have one... Nice bark, eh?

Where did you get it from?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on October 20, 2010, 08:42:40 am
I also have one... Nice bark, eh?

Where did you get it from?

Used to belong to N[]va I assume?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 20, 2010, 08:58:28 am
I also have one... Nice bark, eh?

Where did you get it from?

Used to belong to N[]va I assume?
Assumption is the mother of all....
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on October 20, 2010, 09:27:34 pm
thanks gents!

as soon as i have a gap i will take some snaps and post them.
had the bike for over a year now, but still haven't taken any pics...hahaha. too busy riding.

it is standard except for a sticker kit  ;)

chat soon

Remove the PAIR valve and carb solenoid first - a 1 hour max job and you'll be pleasantly surprised at the improved throttle response.
Good mod for the S and costs nothing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on October 20, 2010, 10:53:05 pm
a pic of my little monster as promised   :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 21, 2010, 08:01:58 am
Are we allowed to see the rest of it?  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on October 21, 2010, 08:17:12 am
Nice looking scoot Gino. Have you filed down the bottle-opener yet?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on October 22, 2010, 06:55:44 pm
@ Letsgofishing, here she is  ;)
@Rolf... the what?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Solitude on October 28, 2010, 09:19:18 pm
Hi Guys !  Got my Z yesterday afternoon thanks in part to this thread. Took her into the mountains today........Oo. F000k  she is WILD !!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 28, 2010, 09:29:02 pm
Hi Guys !  Got my Z yesterday afternoon thanks in part to this thread. Took her into the mountains today........Oo. F000k  she is WILD !!
welcome man :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on October 28, 2010, 09:47:34 pm
milddog, why do you fall so much? :D

trying to be like the EVR team!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 29, 2010, 08:01:56 am
Welcome to the thread where we know which bikes are the most fun!  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Ganjora on October 29, 2010, 08:15:19 am
nothing like a classic in the traffic!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rough Rider on October 29, 2010, 08:20:33 am
Jeez and you tell us about it  :pot: with pictures nogal  :laughing4:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Heimer on October 29, 2010, 08:52:53 am
Glad you're OK

Based on your description, if you had video, it would have been a great submission to CLIPZ

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on October 29, 2010, 10:06:17 am
Okay guys after a false start as I was about to buy acid freaks bike I had to delay the plan by a month. Problems sorted out I decided to buy a new DRZ 400 E and have had it a week now and I love the bike.

I now have a great setup , DRZ 400 E for technical stuff and just being a hooligan , BMW F800 GS a great bike for long distance thick sand riding like Mozambique , and my BMW 1200ADV which the ultimate battleship and I love it.

I have read all 65 pages of this thread and have some questions .

1. I see all the Cape Town guys have done the dyno tuning and re jetting thing. Who is a reputable guy with specific DRZ knowledge in JHB that I can take the bike to ? I am very fussy with my bikes and don't let any Joe Soap wanna be engine tuner loose on my new bike.

2. Is a K&N filter mod worth while ?

3.I intend fitting a FMF pipe  , is this a good choice ?

4.  What sis the capacity of the safari tank ?

All suggestions and help will be greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: GRUNT on October 29, 2010, 10:10:40 am
Bro, you're a LEGEND!! :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on October 29, 2010, 10:19:08 am
1. I see all the Cape Town guys have done the dyno tuning and re jetting thing. Who is a reputable guy with specific DRZ knowledge in JHB that I can take the bike to ? I am very fussy with my bikes and don't let any Joe Soap wanna be engine tuner loose on my new bike.
PM Wrench............I'm sure that he will be able to point you to a reputable tuner
in Jhb.
He is the guru who did all the jetting for all the Capetown guys.


I intend fitting a FMF pipe  , is this a good choice ?

I have the FMF Powercore 4 pipe.  Yes it is worth it. 
Warning..........it is loud.......I would say a bit louder than the standard pipe.
After fitting the FMF-pipe, you defintely have to rejet. I gained about 5hp by doing it.

The Yoshi(mira) pipe have a very nice sound to it, but might be expensive and hard to come by.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on October 29, 2010, 10:22:15 am
k&n bad idea, it chews intake valves quickly. fmf pipe is good.
safari tank is 28l, not worth putting on if this will only be your toy bike
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: GRIM on October 29, 2010, 10:52:03 am
I can relate to that...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on October 29, 2010, 11:07:22 am
Hi Newguy ,

I have ordered a Safari 17 liter tank on the internet as I agree that a 28 l is complete overkill . My wife's small bike is a Honda CTX 200 which also has a standard 10 liter tank . I plan for the 2 of us to do the Biviaans in early December , carrying some extra fuel for just in case is a bit of insurance for both bikes.

BTW I intend only putting a FMF tail piece on and not the headers as well , what are your thoughts on this ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Tuareg on October 29, 2010, 11:35:38 am
MildDog.......... you sure you're not related to the_wes   :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Ganjora on October 29, 2010, 11:39:36 am
nice 1 grim.
i once wheelied into a drainage trench running alonside a busy jhb road as rush hour.
saw my proes straat pretoria beautifully.
all the people in cars were hooting and waving to show their appreciation for my efforts...
was thankfull for the full face helmet...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Archangel on October 29, 2010, 11:59:44 am
Nice one Mildy  :ricky:

On one nice rainy day, I found myself behind about 20 cars standing at a Stop/Go construction road block. It didn't take much to convince me that I had to get right to the front of the queue and chose the "alternative route" to get there...

Much to the amusement of the people in the cars, this happened:

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn288/johank_01/Moz130-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: XXL on October 29, 2010, 02:09:19 pm
Shit happens... :ricky:

+1.... if you are on 2 wheels... you will fall, at some stage. All good. Glad you OK!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Cacus on October 30, 2010, 10:29:31 am
k&n bad idea, it chews intake valves quickly. fmf pipe is good.
safari tank is 28l, not worth putting on if this will only be your toy bike
Edgy had an FMF on his DRZ very nice a bit noisy on long trips GHt Greyhounds/Underberg last Sept .I noticed that the after market tail pipes have packing in ,is it necessary on the stock pipes as mine is noisy?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: alexTH3man on October 31, 2010, 09:46:59 pm
come to think of it i have had a similar experience...  thought i was smart by taking a grassy shortcut to miss out on some traffic.  so cut across the field which had rather long grass and a deepish hidden hole.  hit the hole, luckily with the back wheel, but the bike jumped up and struck me in the gentlemen's region.  needless to say i had to stop and catch my breath once i made it back onto the tar.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Coffee Snob on October 31, 2010, 10:07:44 pm
duuude! good thing you didn't fly far, that freeway's kindof close  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 01, 2010, 04:06:00 pm
Cacus ,

I am really suprised at how noisey the standard pipe is , I would like a bit more power with the fmf pipe and am really hoping that it is less noisey than the standard pipe.

Newguy i see in a picture you posted in ride reports that you have a safari tank on , how many liters does it hold ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Poffmuis on November 01, 2010, 06:30:17 pm
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Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MalcolmX on November 02, 2010, 07:51:45 pm
Nice exhaust milddog!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on November 06, 2010, 04:16:09 pm
greeting gents.

sticking to the topic of pipes, has anyone gutted their standard exhaust?
there is this guy i know who removes the packing and internals and totally redoes the inners.
not quite sure what it all involves.
he did my buddies 1200adv, and it sounds alot better and deeper, and the power has improved.
although, i dont know how it will be on a single cylinder thumper? i dont want it to be TOO loud.

my standard pipe is extremely quiet. great for sneaking in late at night.

but i would like my front wheel a tad lighter.

please, comments on gutting the standard pipe  :thumleft:

Gino
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: capeklr on November 06, 2010, 10:40:15 pm
duuude! good thing you didn't fly far, that freeway's kindof close  ;D

My thought as well, you could have landed in the middle of the highway. :eek7:

But lets face we have to give the boored commuters something to laugh about every now then. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Harry the Buffalo on November 06, 2010, 10:45:51 pm
Great you OK mate! :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Grootseun on November 07, 2010, 08:20:45 am
this is funny.

glad youre ok.


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on November 07, 2010, 01:20:57 pm
Only saw this thread now, sorry adam,but I have to laugh :laughing4:


Maybe if you had a new rear tyre on,you would have had more grip ?:peepwall:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 08, 2010, 08:10:46 am
With the DRZ, the biggest constraint is actually the header pipe. You could keep your stock end-can and rather get an aftermarket header pipe that flows better.

Gino, your pipe will be rather loud if you gut it.

Unfortunately with a thumper, high performance always goes hand-in-hand with noise...  :-\

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: navigator on November 08, 2010, 09:06:44 am
ten out of ten for taking the scenic route anyway :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: - life is short......
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 08, 2010, 09:12:35 am
Bus ,

Your comment is interesting , as most people reccomend keeping standard headers on and change tailpiece. It seems logical that the headers will play a bigger role in helping the engine to breath better.

I saw your video and your bike seems to go like a bat out of hell , what aftermarket headers do you reccomend ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Dirty Boy on November 08, 2010, 09:12:40 am
Thanks for sharing this with all 10000 members, many would have kept quiet after such an oops.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 08, 2010, 09:27:15 am
Manufacturers are clever... They market slip-on pipes as "performance enhancing" pipes... When, in essence, all you are getting is a better sounding pipe. The sound alone is enough to convince you that your bike is pulling better.  :biggrin:

Sometimes there is a slight gain to be had, especially if the stock end-can was very restrictive... But to me, it isnt worth it. An end-can alone cant make that big difference on a thumper single. Its more about what happens to the air as it comes out of the motor.

But also, I speak from DRZ experience only... I have a Yoshi RS2 full system on my bike and it was a massive improvement over the stock S-system. (BTW, the stock E-pipe is much less restrictive than the S)

You could look at getting a FMF Powerbomb header or similar (I think Letsgofishing has one)

Or you could get a full system like Yoshi, FMF etc...

Currently the best pipe for a DRZ is the MRD full system pipe, custom made/designed for the DRZ with lots of dyno time and research that went into it. But it is moera loud apparently...

But once again, the highest performance is going to come from the loudest pipe...  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on November 08, 2010, 01:44:56 pm
interesting, thanks Bus.

where is the best place to get the FMF power bomb?
could one not just modify the headed to a larger diameter pipe?

i do not have R6000 for a full Yoshi :(

never heard of the MRD, cost? and where?

yeh, the noise is something i dont really want, hmmm.

 ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 08, 2010, 01:57:17 pm
The best thing when buying a zorst is to import it.

You will pay half of the SA-price, even after import duties, shipping etc...  >:(

The only downside is the wait... About a month max...

When I got my Yosh, it was between R7-8k local. I got it from the USA, all-in, for just under R4k...

You can look for Powerbomb headers on Ebay stores, its where I got my Yosh from. (Think it was called JC Motors or something). You can also try the Thumpertalk online Store.

MRD is a US zorst company that helped to produce a custom pipe for the DRZ with hundreds of hours of dyno work and tweaking to make it flow the best. They call it the MRD SSW pipe. But apparently its helluva loud...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 08, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
Here we go again I gotmy DRZ 2 weeks ago at a really good price R 49 000.00 . I have a 1200 GSA and a F800GS that have all the bling on it. With the DRZ I wanted a light bike to bugger around on and do more technical stuff and just be a hooligan ( Must be mid life crisis or something) . I promised myself that I would only put handguards on to protect the levers when I see my arse and no bling I would keep it standard. A week later I have bought a 15 liter IMS tank and now Bus has got me going down the full exhaust bit. You look again and your cheapie play bike is suddenly a 70K bike.

Why do we put ourselves through this?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 08, 2010, 04:08:51 pm
LOL!!!

Its just the nature of the beast...

Its like trying not to stare at a nice pair of tits, we are hopeless...

Enjoy the pimping

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 08, 2010, 04:27:16 pm
I got my Powerbomb header from Thumpertalk  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 08, 2010, 04:34:16 pm
Bus ,

I have just registered on Thumpertalk and they have given me a 10% discount on my first purchase. Very American but I will take it.

The only Yoshimura complete system I see is the RS-3 complete , is this what you have . I see that it is for years 2000 to 2007 mine is new but probably manufactured in 2009 , were there any changes ? I would hate to import the wrong pipe. Part number 19-9604.

$545.95 less 10% x 6.80 = R 3 341 not a bad price for a complete set , can you remember roughly what the shipping cost ? and I assume you paid V.A.T when it arrived.

And the most important question has it really increased your bikes performance ? up here at 5 500 feet above sealevel we probably suffer at least a 20 % power loss , I am not about to try and race and win the Roof of Africa on the bike , but with my fat gat I need as much power as I can get.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 08, 2010, 04:47:30 pm
Bliksem, I cant remember the exact rates, but I ended up paying less than R4k total with everything... I was so excited when I got it, I just payed the money and bolted, hehehe...

For me the pipe was def worth it, as mine is a S model and the standard S pipe is really tight at the headers. So it gave my bike a nice kick up the arse...

Ask LGF if he noticed a lekker bump from the Powerbomb pipe... He also has an E.

As for the Yoshi pipe on TT... It was always a bit of a funny issue. I cant remember exactly, but I think the RS2 full system never showed in the brochure. Maybe ask someone on there to shed some light. The RS3 is very similar, but the RS2 is the one to go for... It looks nicer and is newer.

Also just make sure that you get the E version, I believe the mounting point for the mid-pipe is slightly different.

Like I said, its been a while since Ive been on TT, so just ask some Q's there to be sure.

They will all tell you to take the MRD in any case, hehehehe!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 08, 2010, 09:44:23 pm
I got my Powerbomb header from Thumpertalk  :thumleft:
Nice eh ?

Any DRZ needs : FCR, E header, 2003 or newer cam chain tensioner and it runs like a champ !
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on November 08, 2010, 11:13:59 pm
FCR?
E Header?
english man, english :)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 09, 2010, 07:06:44 am
FCR? The holy grail when it comes to motorcycle carburation, made by Keihin
E Header?Bigger diameter pipe than that of the S model
english man, english :)
:biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on November 09, 2010, 02:08:53 pm
thanks for the advice and info...
there is so much, where does an oke even begin! haha

would these mods help, or hinder the resale value?

not sure i want to do anything if it will bring resale down?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 09, 2010, 02:22:54 pm
With the FCR carb, your bike is actually worth more to someone who knows a bit about carbs.

To a layman, it will sell itself because of it's awesome throttle response. And the E model comes out with this carb standard, so not really a "racing" upgrade, but an upgrade nonetheless...

And an aftermarket pipe is always a bonus on any bike, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 09, 2010, 05:50:22 pm
You are looking for a 2003 or newer E model, then you get all the goodies standard :

Rear subframe
FCR
Roadworthy
Upgraded tensioner
Higher compression
Better camshafts
Fully adjustable front forks

Just don't buy the ones with "I go for no reason" bigends  :pot:

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on November 09, 2010, 11:12:36 pm
is the FCR something i can simply buy from a suzuki dealer and fit to my SM?
how much do these things go for?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 10, 2010, 08:17:06 am
FCR carb you wont get in SA unless its from a wrecked bike that uses a similar carb...

Possibly from a Keihin agent but they will rip you a nice new sphincter with the price...

I got mine from Thumpertalk (USA) for about R4.5k
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 10, 2010, 09:05:52 am
After all the praise the yanks give the MRD pipe I decided to order a complete standard system direct from MRD. The owner is super efficient , I e-mailed him yesterday with a couple of questions ,and had a reply back when I switched on this morning.

So 2 questions for the DRZ team

1. Does anyone have a MRD pipe on in SA ?
2. Thumpertalk says that with the MRD pipe you need to re jet and the 3x3 system. WTF is a 3x3 system is it some type of jet kit ?

Just for interest at today's exchange rate it will cost R 3 555.00 including shipping , add our V.A.T and it comes to R 4053.00 . I do not think there is any duty involved.

A Suzuki dealer quoted me R 9300.00 for the Yoshi RS 2 system, less than half  the price.

The only kak thing is the wait. I want my new toys now.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on November 10, 2010, 09:08:21 am
The 3x3 mod is cutting a 3"x3" hole in the top of the airbox - do a search on Thumpertalk - will show you exactly how to do it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 10, 2010, 09:19:49 am
Thank you LGF ,I now understand.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on November 10, 2010, 09:45:24 am
WTF is a 3x3 system is it some type of jet kit ?

:laughing4:
Damn I miss my DRZ, loved tinkering on that bike. And the goodies for it are endless, spent many a hour wrenching away modding this and that.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 10, 2010, 10:09:09 am
A Suzuki dealer quoted me R 9300.00 for the Yoshi RS 2 system, less than half  the price.

:eek:

These okes have no shame...

 >:(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 16, 2010, 08:11:48 am
MRD pipe order confirmed will be shipped next week , I have no idea as to how long it will take to get here. The wait begins.

I fly to Germany tonight and have some time on my hands on saturday before flying home in the evening , I will go and visit some bike and accesory shops in Stuttgart to see what the Germans get up to with their DRZ's .
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Malibu on November 16, 2010, 11:01:52 am
WTF is a 3x3 system is it some type of jet kit ?

:laughing4:
Damn I miss my DRZ, loved tinkering on that bike. And the goodies for it are endless, spent many a hour wrenching away modding this and that.

Gotta tell you, I'm loving your baby, and the fiddling in the garage is addictive... seem to spend more time in there than ever before...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 23, 2010, 04:15:24 pm
I have bought a 15 liter yellow IMS tank and have ordered a MRD full system from the states so I am itching to start the bling process but have a couple of questions.

1. My bike only has 277 km's on as I have been away or its raining buckets , should I run it in ( I find this very difficult as I cannot stop myself twisting its ear and popping wheelies ) before I do the 3x3 airbox mod ?

2. I would also like to know what the recommendation is for re jetting up here on the reef and is it necessary to have it dyno tuned ?

3. Should I only do the 3x3 and jetting after I have fitted my pipe ? I guess that would be logical .

4. Bus question for you , how long did it take from order to arriving in SA when you bought your pipe from the states ? Man I am impatient I want this bloody pipe now.

I plan to do a 300 km dirt run on saturday and may even ride it to the toy run on sunday , Last year I took the sidecar I will end up taking the adventure with panniers on. I hate mass rides and this is the only one I do every year.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 23, 2010, 04:31:59 pm
I think you already have the larger airbox intake on the E model, just remove the rubber snorkel (No 3x3 required)

I would wait for the pipe and then do a proper dyno tune. Worth the peace of mind.

I waited about 3 weeks for my pipe. Paid on 17 Jan, got it from the post office on 9 Feb. But I phoned them almost every day after 2 weeks...  ::)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on November 24, 2010, 08:40:55 am
Thanks Bus ,

The phoning begins today I want my pipe.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on November 24, 2010, 08:51:25 am
You would've got an international tracking number.

Just check the progress with that online.

As soon as it says "delivered" or "landed" or "customs", start phoning customs first and quote the tracking number...

They will give you an "I.I." number... Then keep phoning them until they tell you its been sent to the post office

Then use that I.I. number to harass the post office with.

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gino on November 27, 2010, 03:21:59 pm
oooo, just fitted new rear rotor and pads, first time i've done that.
rotor looks great! this self service thing is actually quite fun when you get intro it haha.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on December 08, 2010, 09:11:12 am
My pipe is in South Africa , after much frustration I have learnt that it is "In Transit" between customs and my local post office. I hope to get it by Friday. I will put the bigger tank on and the pipe this weekend.

Can anyone recommend a reputable person to Dyno the bike here in JHB. There are a couple of guys in Edenvale , but they all seem to specialise in superbikes . I would like someone who has some DRZ knowledge.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on December 08, 2010, 09:18:55 am
2 weeks, not so bad, eh?

Good luck with the install, give a shout if you need any pointers.

As for Jozi dyno, not a clue?

But if you can, fit a worn rear tyre, causes less slippage on the dyno drum than knobblies.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on December 08, 2010, 09:26:16 am
My pipe is in South Africa , after much frustration I have learnt that it is "In Transit" between customs and my local post office. I hope to get it by Friday. I will put the bigger tank on and the pipe this weekend.

Can anyone recommend a reputable person to Dyno the bike here in JHB. There are a couple of guys in Edenvale , but they all seem to specialise in superbikes . I would like someone who has some DRZ knowledge.

Try Powerhouse Dyno. If they can't do it they'll sell you a Stage I & II kit for the DRZ for under R400 and tell you where you can take it. They are distributors for DynoJet in SA as far as I know.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on December 09, 2010, 10:28:40 am
Rolf ,

I am showing my ignorance here , but what exactly does a stage I & 11 do ? is it just different jetting ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on December 09, 2010, 01:04:25 pm
Rolf ,

I am showing my ignorance here , but what exactly does a stage I & 11 do ? is it just different jetting ?

Satge one is just the different needle and a jet or two, can't remember but it improves throttle response. Stage II is for open pipe and 3x3 mod. Comes with a new needle with different taper, spring and a whole bunch of main jets. Makes quite a difference. It is quite pointless buying the kit with stage I only.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Great White on January 02, 2011, 10:11:15 am
As you all know I am the proud owner of the DRZ Sidetrack started. :thumleft:. I would like to get a rev counter for the bike and maybe a temp gauge. Any recommendations on gauges? I did a DeWildt run last week and had the temp light come on a few times, what is the protocol on this. And has anybody fitted a Mitas 130/80/18 E-07 on there bike yet?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on January 02, 2011, 10:53:46 am
As you all know I am the proud owner of the DRZ Sidetrack started. :thumleft:. I would like to get a rev counter for the bike and maybe a temp gauge. Any recommendations on gauges? I did a DeWildt run last week and had the temp light come on a few times, what is the protocol on this. And has anybody fitted a Mitas 130/80/18 E-07 on there bike yet?
get yourself a trail tech vapour... http://www.trailtech.net/vapor.html  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 02, 2011, 11:57:52 am
As you all know I am the proud owner of the DRZ Sidetrack started. :thumleft:. I would like to get a rev counter for the bike and maybe a temp gauge. Any recommendations on gauges? I did a DeWildt run last week and had the temp light come on a few times, what is the protocol on this. And has anybody fitted a Mitas 130/80/18 E-07 on there bike yet?
Hi

That is not right something is wrong. That light should not come on ever. Not sure if I ever gave the fan to Malibu as it did not fit with the Acerbis (E tank). Make sure that the waterpump is still in good shape and the thermostat as well. You can test the thermostat in some boiling water to check operation.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Great White on January 02, 2011, 01:42:06 pm
As you all know I am the proud owner of the DRZ Sidetrack started. :thumleft:. I would like to get a rev counter for the bike and maybe a temp gauge. Any recommendations on gauges? I did a DeWildt run last week and had the temp light come on a few times, what is the protocol on this. And has anybody fitted a Mitas 130/80/18 E-07 on there bike yet?
Hi

That is not right something is wrong. That light should not come on ever. Not sure if I ever gave the fan to Malibu as it did not fit with the Acerbis (E tank). Make sure that the waterpump is still in good shape and the thermostat as well. You can test the thermostat in some boiling water to check operation.

Hi

It did not come with a fan, I will test the thermostat first. Thanks


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 02, 2011, 04:02:01 pm
As you all know I am the proud owner of the DRZ Sidetrack started. :thumleft:. I would like to get a rev counter for the bike and maybe a temp gauge. Any recommendations on gauges? I did a DeWildt run last week and had the temp light come on a few times, what is the protocol on this. And has anybody fitted a Mitas 130/80/18 E-07 on there bike yet?
Hi

That is not right something is wrong. That light should not come on ever. Not sure if I ever gave the fan to Malibu as it did not fit with the Acerbis (E tank). Make sure that the waterpump is still in good shape and the thermostat as well. You can test the thermostat in some boiling water to check operation.

Hi

It did not come with a fan, I will test the thermostat first. Thanks


Will have a look maybe I still have the fan but it will not fit the Acerbis tank. Worked with IMS and Clarke tanks.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 03, 2011, 09:34:16 am
I finally got the time to fit my IMS tank and the MRD pipe which also arrived last week from the states. Tank was a piece of pie , fits perfectly. The workmanship on the MRD pipe is really outstanding ( If I knew how to post a photo I would). Got this all finished on Friday and took it for a spin around the block  it is not that loud and you can definitely feel more power.

Yesterday I decided instead of vegetating in front of the TV watching boring cricket I would take the DRZ for a spin on some dirt in the Bapsfontein area as i had not really had the time to take the bike on dirt since I bought it in late October. I am really impressed with  the suspension , it is stock standard and you can gas it on a shitty dirt road full of bumps and ruts , it just flys over it. I am not exactly in the lightweight division weighing in at 105KG,s . As I was alone I had to tame the speed  after a while in case I bought a farm out there on my own I would be in big shit. I did just over 220 km,s buggering around and really enjoyed it . To be honest I enjoy riding on my own every now and again.

Stopped for fuel as I had been on reserve for some time and saw that the pipe had burnt the indicator Right off. That really pissed me off as I do not like those little tiny back indicators as no one actually sees them . Back to the drawing board. I am now on 400km,s I hope to do a dirt weekend trip in the next two weeks. That should take me to 1000km service. I will then do the 2nd stage Jet mod and have it Dyno tuned. This little bike is fun !
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on January 03, 2011, 10:30:54 am
As you all know I am the proud owner of the DRZ Sidetrack started. :thumleft:. I would like to get a rev counter for the bike and maybe a temp gauge. Any recommendations on gauges? I did a DeWildt run last week and had the temp light come on a few times, what is the protocol on this. And has anybody fitted a Mitas 130/80/18 E-07 on there bike yet?
Hi

I am not sure if the E07 130/80/18 is available yet. I wanted to fitted one a while back, I fitted the E09 at the End (I really like the Tyre) A mate of mine have the 140/80 18 E07 on his KTM. I had a look at the weekend and I think it will fit on the DRZ - the 140 isn't as wide as one whould expect.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 03, 2011, 10:46:27 am
So I am going to be parting up my DRZ SM and selling it off, any one after a motard setup?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on January 07, 2011, 02:53:34 pm
Hey Nova...

I might be interested in those tard wheels...

We must talk...

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 07, 2011, 03:25:49 pm
Hey Nova...

I might be interested in those tard wheels...

We must talk...

 :biggrin:
Kewl stuff.

I am looking into a xt500 engine idea, will shout
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on January 07, 2011, 04:46:25 pm
So I am going to be parting up my DRZ SM and selling it off, any one after a motard setup?

Im interested in your handlebars/clamps, and levers~!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on January 11, 2011, 05:31:57 am
Im interested in your handlebars/clamps, and levers~!

Get in line :) I have been asking for those since the bike broke. Like a circling vulture :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 12, 2011, 04:26:37 pm
As mentioned in my last post my new MRD pipe burnt the left hand back indicator right off. I was forced to go to " Full Throttle" a store I hate with a passion and buy a set of small indicators. 500 bucks later I had a set of neat looking small led indicators .I moved them a little higher and they look okay but now when I put an indicator on the flash at three times the speed that they used to .Is this because the new back set are led and the front set and standard that causes this ?

There are only two wires so I doubt I wired them incorrectly. Any electrics whiz kids around with an answer ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on January 12, 2011, 04:28:39 pm
I think that exact topic is covered on Thumpertalk in the DRZ FAQ section, go check it out...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on January 12, 2011, 04:29:29 pm
As mentioned in my last post my new MRD pipe burnt the left hand back indicator right off. I was forced to go to " Full Throttle" a store I hate with a passion and buy a set of small indicators. 500 bucks later I had a set of neat looking small led indicators .I moved them a little higher and they look okay but now when I put an indicator on the flash at three times the speed that they used to .Is this because the new back set are led and the front set and standard that causes this ?

There are only two wires so I doubt I wired them incorrectly. Any electrics whiz kids around with an answer ?


Buy the inline resistors for the LED indicators from FT for R10 apiece.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 13, 2011, 09:02:47 am
Thanks Rolf ,

I guess I am off to my favorite FT again. I really hate that place , they are doing you a huge favour if you ask them for anything, do not expect them to offer any assistance.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 13, 2011, 01:59:48 pm
Just been to Full throttle they do not have , tried two auto electrical companies and they asked how many ohms should the resistor be.

I will try and find the answer on thumpertalk but if anyone has done this before and knows what size is required I would be grateful.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on January 13, 2011, 03:14:46 pm
Just been to Full throttle they do not have , tried two auto electrical companies and they asked how many ohms should the resistor be.

I will try and find the answer on thumpertalk but if anyone has done this before and knows what size is required I would be grateful.

Where in Gauteng are you? I think I still have two at home that I used with LED indicators at some time. If you still have them you are welcome to them.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 14, 2011, 12:46:43 pm
Rolf ,

That is very kind of you. I live in Edenvale , but I can collect when it is convenient for you. Where do you stay ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Gawel on January 16, 2011, 06:54:42 am
The Carrier

Laminated Aly with fibre PCB and ss rivets

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0138.jpg)

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0137.jpg)

The Tools

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0141.jpg)

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0140.jpg)


The Beer

(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0142.jpg)

The Bags
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0144.jpg)
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0143.jpg)

The Fuel
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0145a.jpg)

The Whole Trip
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m614/Gawel1/My%20Luggage/IMAG0147.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on January 16, 2011, 10:20:49 am
very nice!  :thumleft:
did you have the bags and stuff made?
show some more pics of the fuel storage and inside the beer box.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 17, 2011, 11:27:06 am
Gawel , that is a very neat job , well done. I see by all the effort you have made that you obviously intend to do some long trips. Have you changed sprockets ?

My DRZ is new with less than 500 k's on and i find that on tar at around 120 the revs are pretty high although you can twist its ear some more and get 150 on the clock.

I am not happy with the high revs over a long period which is why with standard sprockets I am reluctant to do a long trip on the bike.

What set up are you running. To the rest of the DRZ boffs what would be a reasonable compromise ? not too much mid range power loss but lower rpm at higher cruising speed  120 /130 km/h.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on January 17, 2011, 12:27:41 pm
Depends on what gearing you are running now. 15-43 or even 15-42 should be good for longer stretches.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on January 17, 2011, 02:12:53 pm
WIth 15-42, you can cruise comfortably at 120.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: blainec on January 17, 2011, 03:04:55 pm
I will check tonight , I know I have a 14 infront , I seem to think the back is a 48.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on January 17, 2011, 03:34:29 pm
I will check tonight , I know I have a 14 infront , I seem to think the back is a 48.

Yip, 14-48 is standard.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Great White on January 17, 2011, 08:39:46 pm
I'm sitting with a 15/41 and that seems to work well.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on January 17, 2011, 08:46:06 pm
I'm running a 14 / 45 and its too short for anything over a 20 minute tar ride. I'd go 15 / 42 or so for longer trips. Offroad it's awesome as it is.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Great White on January 24, 2011, 04:11:27 pm
Jezabel's work in progress.
TT Screen, TT spotlight and carrier rack added.
Mod the headlight, it now uses a H3 globe a suppose to the stupid 35W scooter globe.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Taz on January 24, 2011, 04:12:48 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on January 27, 2011, 09:55:05 am
I'm running a 14 / 45 and its too short for anything over a 20 minute tar ride. I'd go 15 / 42 or so for longer trips. Offroad it's awesome as it is.

I also just changed exhausts and (even accounting for jetting) the stock system gives a slightly longer rev range, and an extra 5 or 10 km/h at the top end than the Yoshi RS-2 system did. Something to think about if you want power or top end.

ALSO

There is some importer Wrench spoke to who sells Yoshi RS2 systems for R6200. Much cheaper than the cost of R9000 that i'd heard about.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on January 27, 2011, 10:11:06 am
Bus landed his Yoshi system for something like R4 200.............but it was a while back.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on January 27, 2011, 10:11:57 am
I'm in the market for chain and sprockets..............what, where, what price in Cape town ?

Please help with suggestions....
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on January 27, 2011, 10:14:55 am
I'm in the market for chain and sprockets..............what, where, what price in Cape town ?

Please help with suggestions....

I hit up trac mac in town. PBR sprockets ex o-ring chain. was around R1000 for all. like R1200. phone them if you want exact prices. and they nearly always hook up cash discount. they had both 14 and 15t front sprockets and a number of sizes for the rear as well :)

i'd go 15 - 44 or so.

i went 14 - 47, like a mullet on a pogo stick,
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 27, 2011, 10:40:06 am
I'm in the market for chain and sprockets..............what, where, what price in Cape town ?

Please help with suggestions....
despite the god awful site these guys are the agents for stealth sprockets in SA

http://www.chaintechsa.com/

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on January 27, 2011, 10:45:05 am
I'm in the market for chain and sprockets..............what, where, what price in Cape town ?

Please help with suggestions....
despite the god awful site these guys are the agents for stealth sprockets in SA

http://www.chaintechsa.com/




n[]va is back on his :computer: and back at the  :paw:

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :occasion1: :occasion14: :occasion15: :occasion16: :occasion17: :occasion18: :occasion5: :jokercolor:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 27, 2011, 10:45:59 am
I'm in the market for chain and sprockets..............what, where, what price in Cape town ?

Please help with suggestions....
despite the god awful site these guys are the agents for stealth sprockets in SA

http://www.chaintechsa.com/




n[]va is back on his :computer: and back at the  :@: :paw::cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :occasion1: :occasion14: :occasion15: :occasion16: :occasion17: :occasion18: :occasion5: :jokercolor:

ya ya ya  :P

now just for some  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on February 03, 2011, 02:35:58 pm
Hey all,

I'm on the look out for a new bike and a DRZ is probably top of my list. If you know of or spot any good deals I'd love to hear about them!

Thanks,
g1
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 03, 2011, 02:49:16 pm
Theres a good one for sale in the "For Sale" Section here on WD's...

Funny that, eh?  ::)

 ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on February 03, 2011, 03:23:13 pm
Theres a good one for sale in the "For Sale" Section here on WD's...

Funny that, eh?  ::)

 ;)

I had spotted it, but options are always good.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on February 03, 2011, 03:41:51 pm
I think thats a good deal

If the man is looking at offers on R32k, you will be hard pressed to get something better for the price.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on February 03, 2011, 04:15:18 pm
At that price, it's an excellent buy!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on February 03, 2011, 07:15:38 pm
Yeah, that is a good option. Newguy's bike still for sale?
I want that tank!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Great White on February 03, 2011, 08:01:42 pm
Just buy it. You won't regret it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on February 03, 2011, 08:08:40 pm
Just buy it. You won't regret it.

+1000.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on February 04, 2011, 09:54:53 am
ha, I'm sort of waiting to find out what my insurance company will pay out on my klr.

That DRZ does look very tidy though.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on February 06, 2011, 09:46:57 pm
i spent the week in durban for a course... a DRZ pulled into the backpackers i was staying in for a night.
check the route he's done so far!  :o
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/grego21/Image0118001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/grego21/Image0119001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/grego21/Image0121001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/grego21/Image0122001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/grego21/Image0124001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/grego21/Image0123001.jpg)

unfortunately i didn't get the chat to the rider so don't know the story   :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on February 06, 2011, 10:22:35 pm
Awesome, the DRZ can do anything.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on February 24, 2011, 10:19:08 am
 :drif:

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 05, 2011, 11:23:46 am
Hey guys,

do you reckon this is a good buy:
http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-Suzuki-DRZ-400E-with-very-little-kilometers-W0QQAdIdZ264783422#

Went to have a look at it this morning. Seems quite tidy. Anything to watch out for.

There seems to be some other interest in it to. Is this a deal not to be passed, or can I afford (time wise) to wait a bit before deciding...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on March 05, 2011, 09:20:45 pm
Hey guys,

do you reckon this is a good buy:
http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-Suzuki-DRZ-400E-with-very-little-kilometers-W0QQAdIdZ264783422#

Went to have a look at it this morning. Seems quite tidy. Anything to watch out for.

There seems to be some other interest in it to. Is this a deal not to be passed, or can I afford (time wise) to wait a bit before deciding...

thats a really good price and the bike looks very neat... if i were you i'd snap it up before someone else does!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 07, 2011, 09:03:30 am
Question: I noticed 5 or so tubes that seemed to be exiting the bike near where the swing arm is attached to the frame. The tubes seem to come from the carbs (I didn't look too closely). Is this normal? What are they for?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on March 07, 2011, 09:20:29 am
Question: I noticed 5 or so tubes that seemed to be exiting the bike near where the swing arm is attached to the frame. The tubes seem to come from the carbs (I didn't look too closely). Is this normal? What are they for?
they're breather/overflow tubes for the carb... quite normal.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 07, 2011, 01:48:45 pm
Hey guys,

do you reckon this is a good buy:
http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-Suzuki-DRZ-400E-with-very-little-kilometers-W0QQAdIdZ264783422#

Went to have a look at it this morning. Seems quite tidy. Anything to watch out for.

There seems to be some other interest in it to. Is this a deal not to be passed, or can I afford (time wise) to wait a bit before deciding...

thats a really good price and the bike looks very neat... if i were you i'd snap it up before someone else does!  :thumleft:

Someone did!  :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 07, 2011, 01:50:27 pm
Someone did!  :P

*cough* It may have been me *cough*
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on March 07, 2011, 01:53:01 pm
Someone did!  :P

*cough* It may have been me *cough*
nice  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 07, 2011, 01:53:36 pm
 :biggrin:
Congrats G1! post some pics  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 07, 2011, 01:56:03 pm
Probably only picking it up next weekend :(

Actually on that note: How does one go about doing a background check on a bike to validate mileage and that it hasn't been crashed before?
I was unwise when I bought my car a few years back and it came back to bite me.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on March 07, 2011, 02:29:10 pm
How does one go about doing a background check on a bike to validate mileage and that it hasn't been crashed before?

It is virtually impossible to do it.  :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 07, 2011, 02:37:43 pm
Hi DRZ fans!

Please bear with me and tell me a few things (this thread is massive and I will get through it in due time):

1. Why should I get a DRZ400E over a DR650SE? Lighter, more power? Not planning to do too many long trips. 14 km daily commute. The play aspect might sway me in the directon of the DRZ.

2. Feul consumption?

3. Why are there so many stories of DRZ motors blowing? Can this be avoided?

4. Service intervals and parts prices? I do all my maintenance and repairs myself so exclude labour.

5. Tell me why I should have one?

Thanks in advance!




Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 07, 2011, 02:47:19 pm
Hi DRZ fans!

Please bear with me and tell me a few things (this thread is massive and I will get through it in due time):

1. Why should I get a DRZ400E over a DR650SE? Lighter, more power? Not planning to do too many long trips. 14 km daily commute. The play aspect might sway me in the directon of the DRZ.

2. Feul consumption?

3. Why are there so many stories of DRZ motors blowing? Can this be avoided?

4. Service intervals and parts prices? I do all my maintenance and repairs myself so exclude labour.

5. Tell me why I should have one?

Thanks in advance!





drz will be far more fun to play with than a DR650 IMO

Most of the drz engines I have seen go have been circumstantial, including mine. I dont think the engines are inherently flawed of anything like that.

My SM is by far the most fun bike I have ever ridden
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 07, 2011, 03:52:14 pm
1. Why should I get a DRZ400E over a DR650SE? Lighter, more power? Not planning to do too many long trips. 14 km daily commute. The play aspect might sway me in the directon of the DRZ.
Lighter and totally different feel. Ride both and you'll understand

2. Feul consumption?
I averaged around 19km/l in town

3. Why are there so many stories of DRZ motors blowing? Can this be avoided?
I rode the crap out of mine and not a single thing went wrong. I think the heavily modified engines might be less reliable.

4. Service intervals and parts prices? I do all my maintenance and repairs myself so exclude labour.
Suzuki states every 6 000km and some guys do. I personally think you'd be crazy to stretch it that far. Oil service every 2500km is good. Service parts are cheap.

5. Tell me why I should have one?
Ride one, specifically an SM and you'll have to have one.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 07, 2011, 04:03:22 pm
1. Why should I get a DRZ400E over a DR650SE? Lighter, more power? Not planning to do too many long trips. 14 km daily commute. The play aspect might sway me in the directon of the DRZ.
Lighter and totally different feel. Ride both and you'll understand
Plus FAR superior suspension and 23kg lighter, and about the same amount of power

2. Feul consumption?
I averaged around 19km/l in town
Average DS trip  - 20-22 km/l

3. Why are there so many stories of DRZ motors blowing? Can this be avoided?
I rode the crap out of mine and not a single thing went wrong. I think the heavily modified engines might be less reliable.
I think this tends to happen to the modified ones that have their necks wrung I've got 27 000 on mine now and have only had to fit a new timing chain and tensioner

4. Service intervals and parts prices? I do all my maintenance and repairs myself so exclude labour.
Suzuki states every 6 000km and some guys do. I personally think you'd be crazy to stretch it that far. Oil service every 2500km is good. Service parts are cheap.
I change the oil every 3000-4000k's - filters are around R40. Have Twin Air washable/oilable air filter.
Easy to work on.

5. Tell me why I should have one?
Ride one, specifically an SM and you'll have to have one.
The E is almost as much fun on tar as the SM - it's the only way to go if you want to ride off road - tweespoor and single track - not Karoo Highways! Change your sprockets from 14-47 to 15-44 for more relaxed cruising.


Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on March 07, 2011, 04:12:11 pm
The thing with the whole motor blown saga is, as I think the DRZ attracts more hooligan type riders, and those here that have blown motors are generally guys who ride abit harder than normal. The other guys who just cruise to look at flower's bike lasts looong
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 07, 2011, 04:13:39 pm
The thing with the whole motor blown saga is, as I think the DRZ attracts more hooligan type riders, and those here that have blown motors are generally guys who ride abit harder than normal. The other guys who just cruise to look at flower's bike lasts looong

So you referring to you and me?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on March 07, 2011, 04:20:12 pm
The thing with the whole motor blown saga is, as I think the DRZ attracts more hooligan type riders, and those here that have blown motors are generally guys who ride abit harder than normal. The other guys who just cruise to look at flower's bike lasts looong

So you referring to you and me?  :biggrin:

Yes. You must stop being such a wheelie addict
;D :D :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Great White on March 07, 2011, 05:52:31 pm
Mine is not standard and I'm sitting on 73000km. Previous owners where Sidekick and Malibu and both of them ride like Miss Daisy. :imaposer:

Stock 8) v Jez :o
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Smoky on March 07, 2011, 06:16:24 pm
I learnt to ride on a Zongshen, but I recently got a DRZ and I can't help being a bit of a hooligan. The acceleration is amazing, although mine still has the short gearing I want to change to 15/41 for better cruising.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 07, 2011, 08:24:23 pm
Mine is not standard and I'm sitting on 73000km. Previous owners where Sidekick and Malibu and both of them ride like Miss Daisy. :imaposer:

Stock 8) v Jez :o
The big bore is not even run in yet and yes it was only used on Sundays to Church  :biggrin:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w251/hhowse/DDsubmarine.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on March 08, 2011, 08:14:08 am
Daai was n kick ass DRz, of sorry Great White, still is a kick ass DRz. Was because of that one that I also had one!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on March 08, 2011, 08:17:21 am
Yip. the same as an XR. You cannot ride it humanly in town! Have to do it like a hooligan. Rather use the more dormant 250Djebel in town!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 09, 2011, 10:09:38 am
Hi DRZ fans!

Please bear with me and tell me a few things (this thread is massive and I will get through it in due time):

1. Why should I get a DRZ400E over a DR650SE? Lighter, more power? Not planning to do too many long trips. 14 km daily commute. The play aspect might sway me in the directon of the DRZ.

2. Feul consumption?

3. Why are there so many stories of DRZ motors blowing? Can this be avoided?

4. Service intervals and parts prices? I do all my maintenance and repairs myself so exclude labour.

5. Tell me why I should have one?

Thanks in advance!


I made the change from a DR650 to a DRZ. It's the best decision I've ever made :)
The DRZ is SOOOOO much more fun offroad and on the tar, so much lighter and easier to ride.
On the tar on longer trips I miss the DR650, but for around town commuting the DRZ is just awesome.
The difference between the DR650 and the DRZ is unbelievable.
If you are riding to Malawi or Nam or something like that maybe get the DR650 for everything else get the DRZ.

I ride mine pretty hard and it's got 27000 kms on it and is doing great.
From what I have gathered everywhere else (except this forum) the DRZ is considered reliable and bulletproof.
The ones that broke on this forum have all been heavily modded and hammered (I think).

Keep them stock, (with an FCR carb), do oil changes every 3000kms and you should be fine.
A minor service costs me around R200 (1.9 liters of oil at R90/liter of castrol avtevo at Midas and R50/oil filter).
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 09, 2011, 02:16:06 pm
Thanks for the response guys...   :thumleft:

  I think my next bike is going to be a DRZ400E! New at R52k its a steal...but might have to go 2nd hand due to budget constraints  :'(

Why does nobody here have the 4 gal, 17 liter Ims tank on as shown below? Looks much better IMHO than the clarke or acerbis or smaller IMS tanks. Safari is nice but too much $$$!

(http://dirtrider.smugmug.com/photos/9510683-M.jpg)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 09, 2011, 02:24:24 pm
The beauty of that tank is you can order it in the colour you want and build a new colour scheme DRZ with a new fender, tailpiece and headlight guard (which I might chuck in favour of a baja setup with HID). So change two pieces and you have a different colour bike.

Dont know if I like the yellow that much....  :peepwall: (am I allowed to say that?)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on March 09, 2011, 02:29:32 pm
Clarke tank looks the best imo, I took it cause you still have radiator shrouds
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/15864_1219752305656_1584365642_520751_6012557_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on March 09, 2011, 02:35:08 pm
DRZ's a great allrounder..pity they don't last long!

You can catch some decent airtime on it
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/25747_1349133260099_1584365642_778460_7127128_n.jpg)

And it's a great wheelie machine!!
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/32029_1385775576134_1584365642_854191_6475303_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 09, 2011, 02:35:53 pm
Here's my Z with the 16L Acerbis tank - also decided on it as it kept the original shrouds.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000047.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 09, 2011, 02:36:15 pm
Clarke tank looks the best imo, I took it cause you still have radiator shrouds

To each his own I suppose... I prefer the clean lines of the IMS.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 09, 2011, 02:38:17 pm
DRZ's a great allrounder..pity they don't last long!

You can catch some decent airtime on it

And it's a great wheelie machine!!

How many times have you posted those on this forum?  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 09, 2011, 02:39:14 pm
Hi DRZ fans!

Please bear with me and tell me a few things (this thread is massive and I will get through it in due time):

1. Why should I get a DRZ400E over a DR650SE? Lighter, more power? Not planning to do too many long trips. 14 km daily commute. The play aspect might sway me in the directon of the DRZ.

2. Feul consumption?

3. Why are there so many stories of DRZ motors blowing? Can this be avoided?

4. Service intervals and parts prices? I do all my maintenance and repairs myself so exclude labour.

5. Tell me why I should have one?

Thanks in advance!


I made the change from a DR650 to a DRZ. It's the best decision I've ever made :)
The DRZ is SOOOOO much more fun offroad and on the tar, so much lighter and easier to ride.
On the tar on longer trips I miss the DR650, but for around town commuting the DRZ is just awesome.
The difference between the DR650 and the DRZ is unbelievable.
If you are riding to Malawi or Nam or something like that maybe get the DR650 for everything else get the DRZ.

I ride mine pretty hard and it's got 27000 kms on it and is doing great.
From what I have gathered everywhere else (except this forum) the DRZ is considered reliable and bulletproof.
The ones that broke on this forum have all been heavily modded and hammered (I think).

Keep them stock, (with an FCR carb), do oil changes every 3000kms and you should be fine.
A minor service costs me around R200 (1.9 liters of oil at R90/liter of castrol avtevo at Midas and R50/oil filter).


Fit 15-44 gearing and you can run easily at 120 - how much faster do you want to go offroad  ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 09, 2011, 02:41:10 pm
Fit 15-44 gearing and you can run easily at 120 - how much faster do you want to go offroad  ;D

Ja, ek ry soos jou oupa in elk geval...

Think I will make a DRZ motor last longer than you okes!

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 09, 2011, 04:44:20 pm
Here's my Z with the 16L Acerbis tank - also decided on it as it kept the original shrouds.

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/DRZ/P1000047.jpg)
yip Acerbis and Clarke much better than the IMS. The Safari ones also looks decent but very pricey.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 09, 2011, 04:50:32 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, Sidetrack, but didnt you also have leaking issues with your IMS?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 09, 2011, 05:23:57 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, Sidetrack, but didnt you also have leaking issues with your IMS?
Yes on my DRZ and DR, may have just been unlucky.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on March 09, 2011, 05:31:07 pm
Problem there is that the tank is part of the protection of the rads, if you have a kark off you damage the tank that is suppose to protect the rads and you have a leaking tank.

Same problem with my 27lt IMS, tank is part of rad protection and if I'm going to fall badly I'm going to be fooked!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 09, 2011, 05:36:43 pm
Problem there is that the tank is part of the protection of the rads, if you have a kark off you damage the tank that is suppose to protect the rads and you have a leaking tank.

Same problem with my 27lt IMS, tank is part of rad protection and if I'm going to fall badly I'm going to be fooked!

Yip, agree totally!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 10, 2011, 01:21:45 pm
Hey,

question for you DRZ riders in cpt. The bike that I'm buying seems to have the baffling from the exhaust removed. Any chance I can convince a roadworthy inspector to let it slide. If not does anyone have a stock exhaust I can borrow for the roadworthy? 6-pack of your favorite beer in return :)

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 10, 2011, 01:24:11 pm
Hey,

question for you DRZ riders in cpt. The bike that I'm buying seems to have the baffling from the exhaust removed. Any chance I can convince a roadworthy inspector to let it slide. If not does anyone have a stock exhaust I can borrow for the roadworthy? 6-pack of your favorite beer in return :)


what pipe is it?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 10, 2011, 01:27:32 pm
stock pipe without the baffling
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 10, 2011, 01:39:01 pm
stock pipe without the baffling
oh, sorry no clue then =\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 10, 2011, 01:40:25 pm
It should be fine

Where you based?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 10, 2011, 01:50:09 pm
Bergvliet, Southern Suburbs.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 10, 2011, 01:54:01 pm
Bergvliet, Southern Suburbs.
If they really give you loads of stick about it gimme a shout I have my full yoshi you could slip on for the test and change it back after. though it is also baffles less and a doubt any quieter than yours
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Bus on March 10, 2011, 01:54:47 pm
Bergvliet, Southern Suburbs.

WTF is that? Hehehe...

Anyways, maybe go check in with them 1st and ask if it will be ok?

Thats what I did. I have an FMF pipe which is moera loud.

But I didnt go through the traffic dept.

I went to an independent Roadworthy centre in Durbanville and they were fine with it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 12, 2011, 04:00:00 pm
@G1: there is a roadworthy centre behind Suzuki South in Plumstead; they roadworthied my DR650 without even starting it, I am sure they will be fine with the exhaust.

Also, take your stock exhaust to Geoff Talbot in pinelands and have him slip a perforated pipe down the middle. I did that to mine, better sound and more power. More than a yoshi RS2  fully system :pot:

@loopsoostroop:
you can get an IMS tank for mxalliance for R3600
you can get the Clarke 19lt tank from renz for R2600
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 12, 2011, 05:12:33 pm
Actually the place i normally use in tokai let my undersized nunber plate slide on my klr, so maybe I'll be lucky.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 12, 2011, 07:23:20 pm
Actually the place i normally use in tokai let my undersized nunber plate slide on my klr, so maybe I'll be lucky.

Yeah, definitely. You'll be fine :)

I need an undersized plate, the full size one smashed on my DRZ when I fell. Where do I get one?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 12, 2011, 09:02:42 pm
Clarke tank looks the best imo, I took it cause you still have radiator shrouds

To each his own I suppose... I prefer the clean lines of the IMS.
Yeah but clean lines are not going to help when the fuel is pissing out your tank, happened to me in Baviaans  :(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 12, 2011, 11:55:21 pm
Clarke tank looks the best imo, I took it cause you still have radiator shrouds

To each his own I suppose... I prefer the clean lines of the IMS.
Yeah but clean lines are not going to help when the fuel is pissing out your tank, happened to me in Baviaans  :(

What tank? Pics?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 13, 2011, 01:46:02 pm
Clarke tank looks the best imo, I took it cause you still have radiator shrouds

To each his own I suppose... I prefer the clean lines of the IMS.
Yeah but clean lines are not going to help when the fuel is pissing out your tank, happened to me in Baviaans  :(

What tank? Pics?
IMS, Carnivore ended up closing the leak with a tent peg we heated up.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 14, 2011, 08:32:47 pm
I made my own case savers from some alu plate, stuck them on with RTV. Worked a charm. Not sure about the adhesives but I'm sure you could use Pratley Steel.
N()va's also slowly rebuilding his zook and I was gonna use his cases as a template to get them cut, as his bike's currently in pieces.

good plan!

count me in
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 15, 2011, 04:55:03 pm
DS bikes - XR250, DR250, KLE 500, DR650, DRZ 400, KTM 525. Spent the most time on the DRZ and still rate it as best of the lot. The DR650 was a real dissapointment after the DRZ.

Ah, ok. I've just noticed your technical knowledge (and experience) on bikes is extensive.

I went from DR650 to DRZ and LOVED the change!

Are DRZ cases magnesium or allu?

Grego; where do I get polycarbonate?

N[]va: get me those side cases and I'll swing by mr superfoxi on thursday and sort you some case-savers.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on March 15, 2011, 07:17:18 pm
DS bikes - XR250, DR250, KLE 500, DR650, DRZ 400, KTM 525. Spent the most time on the DRZ and still rate it as best of the lot. The DR650 was a real dissapointment after the DRZ.
Grego; where do I get polycarbonate?
maizey plastics in paarden eiland... http://www.maizey.co.za/
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 15, 2011, 11:33:22 pm
Anyone with MRD pipes locally ? How would you rate them ?

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/kirzyd/101_1254.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 16, 2011, 08:22:24 am
DS bikes - XR250, DR250, KLE 500, DR650, DRZ 400, KTM 525. Spent the most time on the DRZ and still rate it as best of the lot. The DR650 was a real dissapointment after the DRZ.

Ah, ok. I've just noticed your technical knowledge (and experience) on bikes is extensive.

I went from DR650 to DRZ and LOVED the change!

Are DRZ cases magnesium or allu?

Grego; where do I get polycarbonate?

N[]va: get me those side cases and I'll swing by mr superfoxi on thursday and sort you some case-savers.

Magnesium - light but brittle when hitting a rock - that's why you need the case savers  ;
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 17, 2011, 08:46:07 am
Anyone with MRD pipes locally ? How would you rate them ?

I haven't heard of anyone with an MRD pipe in SA (not that I know that much), but reading from the interweb it looks like the best pipe available for the DRZ. I seem to remember they are seriously pricey though.

Where is the stock mounting point for the ignition key on a DRZ? Mine is next to the right hand side indicator. I have seen SM's with the ignition on top of the tripple-clamps.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on March 17, 2011, 08:50:34 am
Guys

My speed/odometer cable broke  >:( (Suzuki SA doesn't have stock and can't give me date when they'll have because of the problems in Japan :'( ) Anybody with ideas or know of somebody that might have a spare that will be willing to sell. My DRZ is a 2006 Model E
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 17, 2011, 09:00:20 am
Anyone with MRD pipes locally ? How would you rate them ?

I haven't heard of anyone with an MRD pipe in SA (not that I know that much), but reading from the interweb it looks like the best pipe available for the DRZ. I seem to remember they are seriously pricey though.

Where is the stock mounting point for the ignition key on a DRZ? Mine is next to the right hand side indicator. I have seen SM's with the ignition on top of the tripple-clamps.

One of our forum members ordered a MRD - can't remember who though.

The ignition key normally sits at the top of the bars. Many people including me moved it to the side out of the way.
As for your case cracking, make sure you file down the gear lever - standard it is shaped like a can opener - perfect for opening magnesium cans.

Here are some photos of my ex-DRZ. The original place for the ignition, after I relocated it and my filed down gearlever.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 17, 2011, 10:13:14 am
Guys

My speed/odometer cable broke  >:( (Suzuki SA doesn't have stock and can't give me date when they'll have because of the problems in Japan :'( ) Anybody with ideas or know of somebody that might have a spare that will be willing to sell. My DRZ is a 2006 Model E
Any cable / hydraulic place can make up the cable if you take them the sleeve.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: mtbbiker on March 17, 2011, 11:31:11 am
Guys

My speed/odometer cable broke  >:( (Suzuki SA doesn't have stock and can't give me date when they'll have because of the problems in Japan :'( ) Anybody with ideas or know of somebody that might have a spare that will be willing to sell. My DRZ is a 2006 Model E
Any cable / hydraulic place can make up the cable if you take them the sleeve.

 :thumleft:
Thanks I was actually thinking of trying to weld the inside wire, but I am going to try Centurion Hydraulics first
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 17, 2011, 02:32:22 pm
nice one, think I will replace mine while im rebuilding
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 17, 2011, 04:43:43 pm
nice one, think I will replace mine while im rebuilding

Once your bike is rebuilt, give me a shout, you've been without a bike so long I worry you will sit on it the wrong way round.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on March 18, 2011, 08:32:27 am
...
Get some good quality bearings though: SKF, FAG, Nachi, etc.

Yep. Good reason to go to Bearing Man as they only stock quality. Might cost a few bucks extra per bearing though but not enough to make it hurt.
Quality bearing manufacturers:
Jap: Timken, NSK, NTN...
EU: FAG, SKF

Stay away from Eastern block & China bearings. They are made from recycled T34's :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 18, 2011, 09:56:45 am
...
Get some good quality bearings though: SKF, FAG, Nachi, etc.

Yep. Good reason to go to Bearing Man as they only stock quality. Might cost a few bucks extra per bearing though but not enough to make it hurt.
Quality bearing manufacturers:
Jap: Timken, NSK, NTN...
EU: FAG, SKF

Stay away from Eastern block & China bearings. They are made from recycled T34's :D

No sir, they are made from cheese  :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 18, 2011, 11:02:19 am
Happily I will be use all balls or NSK bearings.

However I was a little surprised/worried at how much oil my bike has used over the last little while. though apparently that's fairly normal on a Zook. made an unplanned visit to Midas and bought some of that castrol actevo, R60/liter!!!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Rolf on March 18, 2011, 11:53:11 am
Happily I will be use all balls or NSK bearings.

However I was a little surprised/worried at how much oil my bike has used over the last little while. though apparently that's fairly normal on a Zook. made an unplanned visit to Midas and bought some of that castrol actevo, R60/liter!!!

How many km? My Z did not use a drop.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on March 18, 2011, 11:56:33 am
How are you checking the oil? Drz's got a spesific way, otherwise it looks like it's empty, or over filled
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on March 18, 2011, 12:12:20 pm
How are you checking the oil? Drz's got a spesific way, otherwise it looks like it's empty, or over filled

Yes...............this is very important.

In the beginning I made this error and overfilled.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on March 18, 2011, 02:24:23 pm
How are you checking the oil? Drz's got a spesific way, otherwise it looks like it's empty, or over filled

Yes...............this is very important.

In the beginning I made this error and overfilled.

So how should it be done ?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on March 18, 2011, 04:28:37 pm
You should be changing oil every 1 000km's
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 18, 2011, 05:06:41 pm
You should be changing oil every 1 000km's
thats too soon, the oil wouldn't have broken down by then
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on March 18, 2011, 05:12:01 pm
Please dont tell me that oil levels on the DRZ is a black art...like on the BM 650's ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 18, 2011, 10:57:22 pm
You should be changing oil every 1 000km's

Manual says 5000km so I am doing 3000km  :thumleft: Will recheck oil-level tomorrow. I am a mechanical pleb.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 19, 2011, 04:13:16 pm
I have a DRZ to ride for the weekend, enjoyed throwing a leg over old faithfull. It's a great scoot  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LouisXander on March 19, 2011, 10:29:07 pm
Wie se DRz is dit?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 21, 2011, 11:00:06 pm
Wie se DRz is dit?
My vriend in PE het een gekoop, ek moes hom bietjie "test drive"  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on March 24, 2011, 11:50:02 am
Look what followed me home this morning, 2006 model , 4500 k's , Pro Circuit T-4......kinda great condition :mwink:

Thanks for the lead Runner  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 24, 2011, 11:58:55 am
Welcome

Just be sure to check that chain isn't over tight:thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on March 24, 2011, 12:00:32 pm
Nice S4B :)

I must post pictures of my new toy. I was planning on taking some decent pics at Atlantis last weekend but didn't make it all the way there...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 24, 2011, 01:23:16 pm
S4B: Welcome! very nice ride :)

N[]va: don't rain on the man's parade! You did the same with me when my chain was loose. Lol.

Can anyone help me with that parts fiche thing: N[]va posted the link above. I cannot determine if I need two or four washers there. It labels 5.1 and 5.2 as different. I was missing item 6, have purchased that. Have two washers (i.e. 5.1) but not 5.2. Is there a difference?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 24, 2011, 01:40:01 pm
not raining on any ones parade just saying it looks tight considering it hasn't got a rider on it, just being helpful :-p
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on March 24, 2011, 02:32:07 pm
No worries

Only just fetched it this morning and resisted using it to commute to work...

The bike has been standing quite a bit and I reckon it deserves a thourough inspection and some fresh oil.......

Will definitely check the chain tension
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 24, 2011, 03:44:58 pm
Turns out I have oil on the spark plug. From the workshop manual it seems I am missing the cushion on one bolt of the tappet cover. May also need a new tappet cover gasket. Will phone the suzuki boys and find out the damage. I am really hoping its the cushion and gasket causing the oil leak, if it's not it'll be rings or something expensive sounding.
Hi yes there is a washer thingy that fits under that bolt, without it the bolt will be too long and not tighten the tappet cover properly. Part number 6.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 24, 2011, 08:53:03 pm
Hi yes there is a washer thingy that fits under that bolt, without it the bolt will be too long and not tighten the tappet cover properly. Part number 6.

Thanks, that is the part I was missing. Part number 6. Installing it now.

Concerning the other bolts: in the parts list  there is 5.1 and 5.2, what is the difference between 5.1 and 5.2? are there 2 washers per bolt or just one?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 25, 2011, 02:08:48 pm
Look what followed me home this morning, 2006 model , 4500 k's , Pro Circuit T-4......kinda great condition :mwink:

Thanks for the lead Runner  :thumleft:

 :drif:

Ek soek ene!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 25, 2011, 03:20:03 pm
Look what followed me home this morning, 2006 model , 4500 k's , Pro Circuit T-4......kinda great condition :mwink:

Thanks for the lead Runner  :thumleft:
Very nice  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on March 26, 2011, 05:01:31 pm
I have the three back bearings for this bike, brand new, available in WC. R150.
NSK Bearings, brand new.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on March 28, 2011, 09:01:00 am
Spent the weekend checking the bike over.

Gave it some fresh oil, plug , cleaned filter and check nuts and bolts etc. Could not find anything wrong :thumleft:

The previous owner did not have time to ride the bike , so she has only 4 612 km's. I was a lucky man, and NO , she is not for sale.

I was told that the bike was christened Joy, and after riding it a bit , I can see why.......this thing makes my Dak feel like a dinosaur  :imaposer:

Also went and got the rest of the pRotective gear thIs weekend.....I CAN TELL THE DRZ IS GOING TO GET ME INTO SHEET  :ricky:

As a parting comment, the DRZ is a pleasure to work on and clean...the plastics strip down easily etc etc. I also notice that some forward thinking individual put plenty of grease nipples on and around the rear suspension and swingarm bearings.

Yeah , I am ranting....BUT ONLY BECAUSE I AM A VERY HAPPY DRZ OWNER  :mwink:



Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 30, 2011, 09:21:32 am
Spent the weekend checking the bike over.

Gave it some fresh oil, plug , cleaned filter and check nuts and bolts etc. Could not find anything wrong :thumleft:

The previous owner did not have time to ride the bike , so she has only 4 612 km's. I was a lucky man, and NO , she is not for sale.

I was told that the bike was christened Joy, and after riding it a bit , I can see why.......this thing makes my Dak feel like a dinosaur  :imaposer:

Also went and got the rest of the pRotective gear thIs weekend.....I CAN TELL THE DRZ IS GOING TO GET ME INTO SHEET  :ricky:

As a parting comment, the DRZ is a pleasure to work on and clean...the plastics strip down easily etc etc. I also notice that some forward thinking individual put plenty of grease nipples on and around the rear suspension and swingarm bearings.

Yeah , I am ranting....BUT ONLY BECAUSE I AM A VERY HAPPY DRZ OWNER  :mwink:


 Congrats S4B - post some dirty pics of her!  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on April 01, 2011, 10:37:15 am
I've had it about 2 weeks now, and really enjoying it :)

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198957_10150200714955681_528485680_8911099_6734220_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198957_10150200714960681_528485680_8911100_5426503_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 01, 2011, 11:13:46 am
Nice plate!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 01, 2011, 01:33:00 pm
G1: nice bike :) great plate! once I get mine fixed we'll do a ride!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on April 01, 2011, 01:39:01 pm
The plate is a photoshop, encase you are fooled by my awesome skillz.

Now to consider mods... Well I need raisers and hand guards at least.

[edit]and a skid plate[/edit]

Any idea where to pick up a skid plate from?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on April 01, 2011, 02:27:32 pm
The plate is a photoshop, encase you are fooled by my awesome skillz.

Now to consider mods... Well I need raisers and hand guards at least.

[edit]and a skid plate[/edit]

Any idea where to pick up a skid plate from?
hyde makes a plastic skid plate for the DRZ.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on April 01, 2011, 02:42:16 pm
hyde makes a plastic skid plate for the DRZ.

Very nice plate. It is very easy to install and it is light and neat.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on April 01, 2011, 03:03:32 pm
Do the plastic one's offer decent enough protection? Suppliers in cpt?

As for the raisers. What are the best options here? It seems I can replace the bars or just get normal raisers (how much extra height?)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on April 01, 2011, 03:09:30 pm
Do the plastic one's offer decent enough protection? Suppliers in cpt?

As for the raisers. What are the best options here? It seems I can replace the bars or just get normal raisers (how much extra height?)

Speak to Trevor (Topbox) at Advrider.co.za (http://Advrider.co.za) he can supply the plate, raisers and bar.

The Hyde "plastic" bashplate, is not really normal plastic..............it is very tough.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on April 01, 2011, 04:25:12 pm
Do the plastic one's offer decent enough protection? Suppliers in cpt?

As for the raisers. What are the best options here? It seems I can replace the bars or just get normal raisers (how much extra height?)

Why do you want risers?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 01, 2011, 04:25:35 pm
I ordered mine from Thumpertalk - $83 excl postage

http://shop.thumpertalk.com/ThumperTalk_Skid_Plates_p/bp_tt_skid.htm
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on April 01, 2011, 05:13:49 pm
Why do you want risers?

Because I'm not a short ass like you :P
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on April 01, 2011, 05:18:06 pm
Why do you want risers?

Because I'm not a short ass like you :P

lool, i'm 1.8m btw. Don't put risers on..unless ofcourse you like losing the front end in corners?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on April 01, 2011, 06:05:34 pm
Must I not?
Why will I loose the front end?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on April 01, 2011, 06:46:20 pm
Must I not?
Why will I loose the front end?

It comes down to.
The people at Suzuki spend alot of time/money developing the steering rake angle etc on the bike, the handlebars are where they are for a reason.

When standing all your weight will automatically be over the triple clamps, transferring the weight to the front wheel = grip.
What happens when you put on risers: Risers dont just bring the bars up, but also towards the rider, so when you stand you don't have the weight over the front wheel, no grip etc.

I can show you the whole thing in a practical way when I meet you, works great on a bike with a centre stand.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: g1_ on April 01, 2011, 06:55:08 pm
I think we have briefly meet at the WD cape training day a couple of months back. The problem is that when standing I can't get a bend at my elbows as the bars feel too far away. Maybe I need to lean further forward or bend my knees more. Im not sure, it doesnt feel as comfortable as my opd klr. But maybe its a matter of getting used to it.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Etienne2T on April 01, 2011, 06:56:43 pm
Ah I remember now, you made some cool vids of the day!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Coffee Snob on April 02, 2011, 10:00:03 am
Hi guys, i need some advise please! i'm keen to get a drz (love my TW but need to move to something a bit bigger now and sadly can't afford to keep 2 bikes). saw this one on gumtree, just chatted to the guy, he seems pretty genuine. i'm going to take a look at it on monday morning, just wanted to know if/what i should look out for? what questions to ask? any help would be greatly appreciated as i'm fairly clueless when it comes to mechanics...and if anyone's keen to look at it with me even better, will throw in breakfast  ;D !

http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-Suzuki-DRZ-400-with-RWC-W0QQAdIdZ271053104

Thanks!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on April 02, 2011, 12:15:46 pm
R33 000 might be a bit too much for a  2003 model.  :deal:

It is hard to believe that a 8 year old bike genuinely only got 6 000 kms on the clock. :-\
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 02, 2011, 08:34:49 pm
I can go with on Monday.

The bike looks neat, but R33 000 is a lot for an 8 year old bike, especially one that sells new for around R50k.

I paid R31 000 for an '05 but it had a lot more mileage.

I think it was worked on by Mario at dirtrider, worth giving him a call.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 02, 2011, 08:37:37 pm
Now if only I had time to fix my bike  :imaposer:  :'(
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Dakarboy on April 03, 2011, 08:13:55 am
Her Milddog, this might help you with your reliability issues...http://www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/1098/398/637/004/wheelchair.jpg&imgrefurl=http://fooyoh.com/geekapolis_gadgets_camcorders/4637398&usg=__q7uMg5STWoc9RHMrCv1Fscf9oYQ=&h=370&w=500&sz=75&hl=en&start=121&sig2=I_q-cm4ih_0oOBCA3KKlPw&zoom=1&tbnid=dmANLw-Q0vmnJM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=171&ei=eQ-YTeqtKJWK4QbZ-NnUAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwheelchair%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D699%26tbm%3Disch0%2C2122&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=651&vpy=317&dur=46&hovh=193&hovw=261&tx=135&ty=84&oei=Sg-YTZrAG4eMswaS-rTIBQ&page=5&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:121&biw=1280&bih=699                                                                                                . How is the bike coming along......we must do that route properly next weekend.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 03, 2011, 03:31:04 pm
R33 000 might be a bit too much for a  2003 model.  :deal:

It is hard to believe that a 8 year old bike genuinely only got 6 000 kms on the clock. :-\
True but not much changed from 2003 onwards, if the bike is in good nick and has low km's it's still worth buying. Just make sure it's the E with FCR.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 03, 2011, 08:14:32 pm
Her Milddog, this might help you with your reliability issues... How is the bike coming along......we must do that route properly next weekend.
I've been busy being a Dad, gonna fix it tomorrow. Celebrating unemployment by cruising round in a dirty wife beater and tinkering with mechanical things. nice.
Also, this is the DRZ thread, dakarboy. Your jealousy is unimpressive. lol. we'll ride this weekend.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Coffee Snob on April 03, 2011, 08:32:54 pm
R33 000 might be a bit too much for a  2003 model.  :deal:

It is hard to believe that a 8 year old bike genuinely only got 6 000 kms on the clock. :-\
True but not much changed from 2003 onwards, if the bike is in good nick and has low km's it's still worth buying. Just make sure it's the E with FCR.

Cool thanks for the feedback everyone...sorry to be a bit blonde maybe  ::) but what's "E with FCR"? Going to check it out in the morning with mild dog  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: grego on April 03, 2011, 08:48:16 pm
R33 000 might be a bit too much for a  2003 model.  :deal:

It is hard to believe that a 8 year old bike genuinely only got 6 000 kms on the clock. :-\
True but not much changed from 2003 onwards, if the bike is in good nick and has low km's it's still worth buying. Just make sure it's the E with FCR.

Cool thanks for the feedback everyone...sorry to be a bit blonde maybe  ::) but what's "E with FCR"? Going to check it out in the morning with mild dog  :thumleft:
the E model (as opposed to S or SM) came fitted with a Keihin FCR carb... the S and SM had Mikuni carbs  ;)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Coffee Snob on April 04, 2011, 08:12:50 am
right, thanks...i'll be sure to make mild dog ask all these and any other pertinent questions! :D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 05, 2011, 08:09:36 am
right, thanks...i'll be sure to make mild dog ask all these and any other pertinent questions! :D

It's a very nice DRZ :) i want it.

So, my bike:

The problem... the bike was low on oil, I chucked in a bit, still low. So I chucked in some more. Ended up chucking 1 liter into the bike, in retrospect clearly I overfilled it. Then I went riding on the dunes and it kept stall, like the back wheel was resisting the chain.

After a wash and a day later the bike wouldn't spark. It would swing but no starting. Pulled the spark plug out and it was covered in oil. On the thread and also the electrode, so both sides of the gasket. It seemed to me that the oil was escaping from the inside of the tappet cover gasket, that rubber circle running around the plug, and onto the spark plug. New plug and replaced the one bolt cushion and the tappet cover gasket. I didnt put gasket sealant on (rookie mistake).

Took it for a ride, pissed oil everywhere down the right side of the engine. There are two rubber semi-circles where the cams are on the tappet gasket, the oil came out there. Lost +-500ml in +-300kms.

Took the plug out again, saw that water is getting on the under side of the tappet cover from the other two bolts. Replaced those two rubber cushions as well.

Placed gasket sealer generously between the tappet cover and the gasket. Sealed it. Replaced oil and oil filter.

Will ride bike and pull the plug out next weekend to check it.  Sorry about the lack of pictures.

Lessons learnt:
1) check oil often
2) gaskets and rubber bits age and lose their ability to seal with time, and repeated heating and cooling- makes them brittle and less pliable
3) use gasket sealant
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: lecap on April 05, 2011, 09:20:24 am
...
3) use gasket sealant

DON'T!
Fit the rubber stuff properly.
If it does not want to seal any more because it's as hard as a plank or because you've damaged it by fitting it improperly throw away and fit new.
Even though many OEM workshop manuals state that you're supposed to use some sorts of liquid gasket on the rubber tappet cover gaskets they work fine without it and liquid gasket stuff especially if applied generously does more evil than good (like washing off and accumulating in your oil strainer)
The liquid gasket stuff will give you a hard time the next time you tale the cover off as you now will have to remove all the old gunk to prevent leaks ::)

And always use a torque wrench to tighten your tappet cover bolts (esp. if you have a KLR).
Overtightening the bolts does not improve the seal as there is a geometrical limit build into the bolts where the compression of the rubber stops and stripping of threads starts.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on April 05, 2011, 10:51:32 pm
Anyone have a DRZ - Front mudguard lying around for me?

Will it fit on the DR? I'm sure it will, just looking for something slightly higher.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 06, 2011, 07:55:27 am
I've got one - no idea if it will fit the DR though
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 06, 2011, 09:01:54 am
Anyone have a DRZ - Front mudguard lying around for me?

Will it fit on the DR? I'm sure it will, just looking for something slightly higher.

I have got one lying around, it's got 4 holes drilled into the front part but you can have it if you want.

You can also pick up really styling after market fenders for like R200 or R300. I got an RMZ front end from Craig's, and its pretty sweet.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on April 06, 2011, 05:17:27 pm
Anyone have a DRZ - Front mudguard lying around for me?

Will it fit on the DR? I'm sure it will, just looking for something slightly higher.

I have got one lying around, it's got 4 holes drilled into the front part but you can have it if you want.

You can also pick up really styling after market fenders for like R200 or R300. I got an RMZ front end from Craig's, and its pretty sweet.

Sweet Adam!

PM sent! :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Martin-DR650 on April 06, 2011, 05:26:57 pm
LGF - Thanks,Will get back to you if I dont come right :thumleft:

Gonna see how Milddog's fender fit.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 11, 2011, 12:41:01 pm
Are we forced to buy spare foam filters from the agents , or is there another alternative ?

Also , on the E model , would it be wise to add a fan...if so , where to get , who has done it , etc etc .

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 11, 2011, 12:51:16 pm
Most after market shops should be able to help you.
I use NoToil filter and oil - environment friendly.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on April 11, 2011, 12:51:38 pm
Twin-air filters, goto craigs or the like
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 11, 2011, 12:55:37 pm
Are we forced to buy spare foam filters from the agents , or is there another alternative ?

Also , on the E model , would it be wise to add a fan...if so , where to get , who has done it , etc etc .



Also looking at adding a fan for extended technical riding.
So far the easiest and cheapest solution seems to be a high output computer fan - cheap and easily replaceable.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651905&highlight=fan+fitting
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 11, 2011, 01:08:58 pm
Beserker wrote about the correct fans somewhere, think it was the XR thread.....one would have to import and I suppose make a bracket etc.

The lazy part of me was hoping there was a bolt - on option...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 11, 2011, 01:20:43 pm
If you at the thread I posted, it's not a big deal...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 11, 2011, 01:42:23 pm
If you at the thread I posted, it's not a big deal...

Its Monday...not sure I understand what you meant, please translate in "Gautenger" for me  :peepwall:

Fark , it really is a bad day for me....just looked higher up the page and saw the link you posted...ignore my ramblings  :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 11, 2011, 02:10:16 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 11, 2011, 06:36:15 pm
Are we forced to buy spare foam filters from the agents , or is there another alternative ?

Also , on the E model , would it be wise to add a fan...if so , where to get , who has done it , etc etc .


You should be able to get hold of a Twin Air without much fuss.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 12, 2011, 09:13:02 am
Are we forced to buy spare foam filters from the agents , or is there another alternative ?

Also , on the E model , would it be wise to add a fan...if so , where to get , who has done it , etc etc .


You should be able to get hold of a Twin Air without much fuss.

Runner is sending me one this morning, thanks.

FWIW , two weekends ago I was too excited to wait and properly check out the new toy , just changed oil + plugs , checked brake pads + coolant  , and took the bike for a ride , came back here and complained about the front end washing out and feeling kark ...

So , the weekend just past I decided to be a bit more pro active and check EVERYTHING out.

Stripped her down :mwink: she is an easy girl to undress btw...and had to give myself a PK.

The top adj on the front shocks were more than a bit out of sync....the RHS one was as hard as possible and the LHS one was 11 clicks softer......

So , everything has been reset to factory spec and I will go try het out again this weekend...just riding around on the plot already tells me the front is feeling better.....

Moral of the story....as I was so nicely reminded by Runner.....

I am the twatwaffle that should have checked the bike out properly before I rode it......so sense in blaming the previous owner :deal:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 10:14:13 am
I see this thread is sort of dead....could it be that all the CRZ owners are content and rather riding than typing  :pot:

Anyway , here mine with some bigger lungs fitted...runs MUCH longer now  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 18, 2011, 10:16:24 am
I see this thread is sort of dead....could it be that all the CRZ owners are content and rather riding than typing  :pot:

Anyway , here mine with some bigger lungs fitted...runs MUCH longer now  :mwink:
Nice rack  :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 10:29:18 am
Lust !!!!  That is all I have to say  :pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 18, 2011, 10:51:33 am
I see this thread is sort of dead....could it be that all the CRZ owners are content and rather riding than typing  :pot:

Anyway , here mine with some bigger lungs fitted...runs MUCH longer now  :mwink:

Nah, just done all the mods I need!   ;D

Your Z's looking sweet!
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on April 18, 2011, 11:29:16 am
What size is that fuel tank?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 18, 2011, 11:33:02 am
What size is that fuel tank?
IMS 18L me thinks
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: MildDog on April 18, 2011, 11:39:53 am
S-4-B; this is a very strange thread, it often goes dead for a two weeks at a time. Then n[]va will hijack the crap out of it :)

Nice tank  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 12:42:29 pm
It is the 18l one.

I bought it off one of the Forum members who fortunately decided that he no longe needed it.

It was quite nice not having to worry about the whereabouts of filling stations quite as much as I used to.....it seems the DRZ likes drinking when one twists it's ear !!

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 18, 2011, 12:44:43 pm
It is the 18l one.

I bought it off one of the Forum members who fortunately decided that he no longe needed it.

It was quite nice not having to worry about the whereabouts of filling stations quite as much as I used to.....it seems the DRZ likes drinking when one twists it's ear !!


Only drawback of that tank is that you cannot use about 2 litres of the fuel as it sits lower than the fuel tap  ???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on April 18, 2011, 12:46:50 pm
It is the 18l one.

I bought it off one of the Forum members who fortunately decided that he no longe needed it.

It was quite nice not having to worry about the whereabouts of filling stations quite as much as I used to.....it seems the DRZ likes drinking when one twists it's ear !!


Only drawback of that tank is that you cannot use about 2 litres of the fuel as it sits lower than the fuel tap  ???
well thats lame o.O

Who makes the monstrous size tank?
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: letsgofishing on April 18, 2011, 12:48:12 pm
SAaari - 25L I think...
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 12:50:10 pm
And it seems that one has to switch over to reserve prematurely...but I like the look and it also seems to be a better rad guard than the originals.

N[]vA , that tank is not monstrous at all, it is actually slimmer than the stcok one.

Safari makes a monster , 28 l I believe
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: N[]vA on April 18, 2011, 12:58:08 pm
SAaari - 25L I think...
tx thats the one
Safari makes a monster , 28 l I believe
:thumleft:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 18, 2011, 01:06:48 pm
I see this thread is sort of dead....could it be that all the CRZ owners are content and rather riding than typing  :pot:

Anyway , here mine with some bigger lungs fitted...runs MUCH longer now  :mwink:
Where is that Private Property trail ? Looks like fun  :pot:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 01:32:21 pm
At the top of Breedts Nek :mwink:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 18, 2011, 01:36:44 pm
At the top of Breedts Nek :mwink:
Ah yes

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/SuzDRZ/breedtsnek/DSCF5102.jpg)
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 01:44:49 pm
Sheeettttt !!!!

I am but a newbie, dont tempt me like that !!! Did you guys get to the top ...I am assuming it is uphill, cameras often lie???
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 02:38:45 pm
I am still looking for a fix for the tail end of the bike.

Are there any locally available options?

If so , please share your girl's butt pics  :drif:
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on April 18, 2011, 03:05:39 pm
The answer to your question is the "Edge" taillight.  :thumleft:

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/topbox/bikes4sale/100_1583.jpg)

Most vendors will be in a position to supply, but if your unsure PM Wolweseun on this forum as he
supplied it a year ago.

Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on April 18, 2011, 03:09:59 pm
That does look very nice, thanks :thumleft:

Will start looking immediately.
Title: Re: The DRZ Thread
Post by: Operator on April 18, 2011, 03:13:05 pm
Bad pic, but here is a sideview.
Ti