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Title: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 07:02:01 pm
Intro

Thanks to the COVID nonsense I have lost couple of long riding weekends in April / May. I wasn't keen to loose another one last weekend and since travel across the border was still verbotten, I decided to go and have a look at the area I haven't visited yet that promised great riding as it is probably the closest in SA one could find to resemble real Africa - a key ingredient in any real good riding here. Specifically to ride the Kruger fence all the way to Pafuri and explore the northeastern-most SA corner along Limpopo and Zim border as @Minxy and @Hondsekierie did few weeks and and documented here: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=249973.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=249973.0).

I woke up to the upcoming weekend too late to plot my own routes so asked for help and Mark Taylor (@JustBlipIt) and Minxy kindly provided tracks to follow - thanks a mil for that the tracks proved great!  :thumleft: Mark even wanted to join for couple of days, but then last minute work commitments prevented that.

I have been riding bush every weekend since early June in DeWidt and further up north from there along Tolwane river, including couple of ballsfreezing ovenigther bushcamps. So I was reasonably riding fit and decided  to challenge myself a bit by taking the weekend bike - the 990 hippo, instead of 500 / 690 which would be more suitable bikes for 5 day bush trip where rest day wasn't an option. I did suffer a bit later in the trip with quite a few close calls in sand when the energy reserves weren't there anymore, but managed to ride more or less everything I wanted and had plenty of fun that only excess power and unlimited S suspension can provide in the process. I might have even built some muscle from all the sweetened condensed milk I inhaled to keep going.

With that sorted I closed the home office early on Wednesday and at about 16:00 jumped on the bike and gunned it on N4 to Belfast where I slept over for early start next day.

This will be mostly picture dump with short little comments here and there.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 07:19:31 pm
Day 1 - White River to Bush Pub Inn (Hoedspruit)

In the morning I gunned it on N4 to the starting point of the good part White River where I arrived at about 10:00. Kruger fence ride should probably start further south east in Matsulu, but I was keen to ride some of the scenic tracks around White River that Mark frequents with his gang - most of which were documented here by Noneking. And I had plenty of fence riding waiting for me further up north.

Mark couldn't join so after brief stop at the garage I hit the tracks straight away. Mark said the track is easy, so I was on full alert and took extra spoons of cement in the morning. Last time (the only time) I rode with Mark I ended up with broken leg in Nelspruit hospital. To be fair to Mark, it wasn't the goat tracks he frequents that did it to me, but simple dirt road on the commute at the end of the trip. That whole sorry story is documented here: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=196404.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=196404.0).

Anyway, I hit the dirt soon enough and straight away found myself in forrest section I have seen on some of Noneking's videos:

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After that I got first glimpse of the massive granite (I think) koppies the dominate the landscape in the area, one of them being called Legogte which I believe translates to lion head.

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And then dozen or so km through the bush and gullies to the next set of koppies:


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: JustBendIt on August 11, 2020, 07:29:41 pm
Looking forward to this 👍
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 07:32:12 pm
I knew from Mark's ride the protocol was to get to the top of the highest koppies, which after a bit of searching I managed to do. The views were fantastic with Legogte visible 20 or so km back west:


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Amsterdam on August 11, 2020, 07:33:37 pm
I have seen some of your photos of this on Facebook.  Will follow this one and once we are allowed some interprovincial travel this might make a good alternative to the Cederberg.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Hondsekierie on August 11, 2020, 07:53:19 pm
Excellent!!  Can't wait to get some more details on your trip.  Thanks for sharing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 08:00:13 pm
Past the koppies I hit the bush and eventually the Kruger fence. The track along the fence follows for many km railway line, which is a bit of a bummer - I like my bush tracks to take me away from civilization not along one of its main thoroughfares. But the track has every 100 or so meters sped humps spaced just perfectly for good tempo and quality airtime, so I distracted myself with those:

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One of Mark's practical jokes - there is a big bike somewhere on top of that gully. I have managed to walk it down this one, but was ready to freelwheel it down on its own should it run away from me.


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I have been cuising through the bush nicely all the way from White River for many dozens km by now, but at the next section I had to do about 2 km of tar to connect to the next track. Naturally for this I picked the spot which was on the border of Mpumalanga and Limpopo, with inevitable police block. Luckily they didn't pay any attention to a biker and after token slowing down I gassed it hell out of there. I have then connected to the dirt road running through Timbavati (I think) reserve, and go lucky with few game sightings like so:


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I arrived at Bus Pub Inn just as the sun was setting down and was very pleasantly surprised that they had restaurant open. So I ordered 3 or 4 courses and after shower gorged myself on chicken livers, meat platter and some such. All in all pretty good day.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 08:05:32 pm
I have seen some of your photos of this on Facebook.  Will follow this one and once we are allowed some interprovincial travel this might make a good alternative to the Cederberg.

Comon Jan - that is very low standard ... here in Africa we prefer proper juicy riding, not oupa outings  :pot: >:D
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: MonkeyNot on August 11, 2020, 08:11:51 pm
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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Noneking on August 11, 2020, 08:12:55 pm
Nice pics Xpat!
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: MonkeyNot on August 11, 2020, 08:13:41 pm
Looks like I'll be reading instead of working tomorrow....

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 08:55:54 pm
Day 2 - Bush Pub Inn (Hoedspruit) to Copacopa lodge (Thohoyandou)


I was quite curious and little anxious about the next day. The track was to cross number of biggish rivers that are passable only in the dry season. It was dry season, but of course there was no guarantee that there may not be enough water left over for me to have to do long detours. Plus I hate rivercrossings - the easiest way to spot newbie adventure rider is to see someone splashing around like little kid in every puddle they see. If you have drowned bike before - especially when on your own - you know it is no fun trying to get going again. I know, I once spent week recovering drowned GSA from Zambia.

Regardless the day started with about 90 kmi of tar from Bush Pub though Hoedspruit to just west of Phalaborwa. There isn't any suitable fence ride circumnavigating the private reserves stretching out of Kruger there (none I know of anyway) and the track I had from Mark was hitting dirt in wide western half circle that I wasn't keen on doing as I wanted to save time should I get in trouble further up north. This was the longest bush riding day - kind of.

After refuel in the village just west of Phalaborwa, I hit the dirt and bush again just after Groot Letaba river near Mbaula ranch / lodge. The riding was quite different from the souther section of fence in that it wasn't following railway, but just loosely following the Kruger fence through pretty remote bush. The fence has collapsed (has been collapsed by the elephants by the look of it) in number of places and Mark warned me that there are more elephants and lions outside of the park than inside in that section. I hoped for that rare lion encounter since I haven't had one on bike since 2013 I think, but it wasn't my day and I didn't encounter any game whatsoever. Only heaps of elephant dung here and there.

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The day was overcast and quite cold - though not as cold as the rest of you who if I understand it correctly were freezing in some galactic cold wave.


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One of the sections of collapsed fence:


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 11, 2020, 09:20:23 pm
About half way through I have arrived to the biggest river - Klein Letaba. Thankfully it was dry, as crossing this one when flowing will most probably require Crocodile Dundee type of skills. The river was very wide and tempting and I might have done a km or 3 up and down the river... My understanding is one can actually ride the river with some kind of permit - of course away from the park, not in the pack, which is delineated by plastic net sprung across the riverbed.

The sand was very soft and deep and even 990 with its Dakar pedigree battled with the wound up throttle to keep going in some section. Anyway after the little play I crossed to the other side where I faced quite steep washed out bank and contemplated best line of attack. The bottom of the bank was deep sand so no chance to get the momentum going there before hitting the biggest step. Eventually I managed to position myself at angle at firmer ground and with a bit of clenched teetha and gluteus muscles managed to make it up at first try.


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Once back up on the bank at the solid fence I pushed on north:


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I was making good progress, but annoyingly I came upon locked gate. It was at the fork of two tracks, but annoyingly both of them were past the fence. I explored around to see if there is way to get through, but there wasn't and I had to backtrack few km and take one of the side tracks running away from the fence inland west. Which brought me to a village and main road which I rode for few km north and then turned back into bush and reconnected to the fence few km up from the locked gate.


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I arrived at the Copacopa lodge again just before sunset. The place is situated few km west of Punda Maria gate to KNP and looked deserted - it clearly wasn't catering for safari going tourists, but rather to odd contractor who might need to spend night or few in the area. Eventually to my relief a guy showed up at reception and admited me to a challet. Nothing fancy, but perfectly fine. There was no restaurant or bar though, nor any shop nearby. So I dug in into my emergency stores and made myself fancy dinner of canned beans and viennas with condensed sweetend milk for desert. Yummy.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on August 11, 2020, 11:24:20 pm
Sub!! :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: stcomza on August 12, 2020, 08:21:01 am

Amazing - thank you for sharing :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: m0lt3n on August 12, 2020, 08:38:12 am
Also huge thanks from my side also for sharing. Its the more detail in a proper RR that makes it great, the facebook pics is just another slideshow you see and forget, there is no living the experience.

I have never been in this area, never wanted to go to Kruger, but now its on the bucket list for me, or the Kruger fence that is. People are going to think I am weird...
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: OomD on August 12, 2020, 08:47:16 am
Love your reports, Xpat! Riding along here, thanks for sharing :thumleft:

Looks so inviting...
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: HawkI on August 12, 2020, 10:50:21 am
brilliant, best ride report I have seen on this site. Love your work.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: MonkeyNot on August 12, 2020, 10:50:55 am
Day 2 - Bush Pub Inn (Hoedspruit) to Copacopa lodge (Thohoyandou)


I was quite curious and little anxious about the next day. The track was to cross number of biggish rivers that are passable only in the dry season. It was dry season, but of course there was no guarantee that there may not be enough water left over for me to have to do long detours. Plus I hate rivercrossings - the easiest way to spot newbie adventure rider is to see someone splashing around like little kid in every puddle they see. If you have drowned bike before - especially when on your own - you know it is no fun trying to get going again. I know, I once spent week recovering drowned GSA from Zambia.

Regardless the day started with about 90 kmi of tar from Bush Pub though Hoedspruit to just west of Phalaborwa. There isn't any suitable fence ride circumnavigating the private reserves stretching out of Kruger there (none I know of anyway) and the track I had from Mark was hitting dirt in wide western half circle that I wasn't keen on doing as I wanted to save time should I get in trouble further up north. This was the longest bush riding day - kind of.

After refuel in the village just west of Phalaborwa, I hit the dirt and bush again just after Groot Letaba river near Mbaula ranch / lodge. The riding was quite different from the souther section of fence in that it wasn't following railway, but just loosely following the Kruger fence through pretty remote bush. The fence has collapsed (has been collapsed by the elephants by the look of it) in number of places and Mark warned me that there are more elephants and lions outside of the park than inside in that section. I hoped for that rare lion encounter since I haven't had one on bike since 2013 I think, but it wasn't my day and I didn't encounter any game whatsoever. Only heaps of elephant dung here and there.

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The day was overcast and quite cold - though not as cold as the rest of you who if I understand it correctly were freezing in some galactic cold wave.


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One of the sections of collapsed fence:


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Thanks @Xpat for another great report. I rode a bit of this part with Gerrit in 2018. It was one of my first rides ever and I was on the GS1200.
It rained heavily the night before and we needed to do a deep rivercrossing. Managed to drop a valve shortly after the large river sand section and my day was over....
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 12, 2020, 01:39:40 pm
Nice one just needs some greenery now when the rain comes
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Noneking on August 12, 2020, 01:57:18 pm
Nice one just needs some greenery now when the rain comes

Exact same spot March 2018

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Amsterdam on August 12, 2020, 02:07:54 pm
I have seen some of your photos of this on Facebook.  Will follow this one and once we are allowed some interprovincial travel this might make a good alternative to the Cederberg.

Comon Jan - that is very low standard ... here in Africa we prefer proper juicy riding, not oupa outings  :pot: >:D

With every passing year my rides get more befitting of an old man.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on August 12, 2020, 02:10:04 pm
This ride is ALSO on my to do list....

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: bud500 on August 12, 2020, 02:11:23 pm
One of my wish list rides!.

Nice one!
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Minxy on August 12, 2020, 02:16:38 pm
Great, I'm happy the routes I sent you were put to good use :thumleft:

Also glad you are doing a write up this time instead of just sharing on FB, have missed your RR's, FB is fine, but just not the same amount of detail ;D

Can't wait for the rest :ricky:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on August 12, 2020, 02:27:16 pm
Great, I'm happy the routes I sent you were put to good use :thumleft:

Also glad you are doing a write up this time instead of just sharing on FB, have missed your RR's, FB is fine, but just not the same amount of detail ;D

Can't wait for the rest :ricky:

Whats the FB link, if I may?  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Minxy on August 12, 2020, 02:29:16 pm
Great, I'm happy the routes I sent you were put to good use :thumleft:

Also glad you are doing a write up this time instead of just sharing on FB, have missed your RR's, FB is fine, but just not the same amount of detail ;D

Can't wait for the rest :ricky:

Whats the FB link, if I may?  :thumleft:

Xpat (Martin) normally shares his photos under the Adventure Riders SA group on FB, you will find them all there if you scroll through :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 12, 2020, 02:30:58 pm
Nice one just needs some greenery now when the rain comes

Exact same spot March 2018

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 12, 2020, 03:45:40 pm
Nice one just needs some greenery now when the rain comes

Sorry, couldn't disagree more. The bush is much nicer in winter (at least in the first half of winter before it dries out too much) with beautifull vibrant colors of the autumn leaves. Much nicer than uniformly bland green of summer.

This day wasn't very good to show it as it was heavily overcast - but the next day's pictures will hopefully show some of that. Or I may need to post pictures from DeWildt for the past month that are way nicer than what you would see there in summer.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 12, 2020, 03:49:24 pm
I have seen some of your photos of this on Facebook.  Will follow this one and once we are allowed some interprovincial travel this might make a good alternative to the Cederberg.

Comon Jan - that is very low standard ... here in Africa we prefer proper juicy riding, not oupa outings  :pot: >:D

With every passing year my rides get more befitting of an old man.

Nonsense. Just the rides you did that I'm aware of in Lesotho and Bots -  vast majority of 30 year olds here wouldn't dare to even contemplate them. And that 500 or some such will keep you doing that for many years to come. I ride with people of your physical age (the oupa was reference to mental age and there are some people on this forum in their 30-40s who manifest much higher age than you) and most of them will kick ass of many much younger people - both in attitude and endurance.  Which I find very uplifting and life-affirming. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 12, 2020, 03:59:34 pm
Nice one just needs some greenery now when the rain comes

Sorry, couldn't disagree more. The bush is much nicer in winter (at least in the first half of winter before it dries out too much) with beautifull vibrant colors of the autumn leaves. Much nicer than uniformly bland green of summer.

This day wasn't very good to show it as it was heavily overcast - but the next day's pictures will hopefully show some of that. Or I may need to post pictures from DeWildt for the past month that are way nicer than what you would see there in summer.

Here some examples from my weekend rides recently:

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 12, 2020, 05:24:29 pm
Another classic! Thanks Martin.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 12, 2020, 07:02:40 pm
Day 3 - CopaCopa lodge to Zebra Camp in Popallin Ranch

The plan for day 3 was to finish the last bit of Kruger fence. Initially I had the highest expectations for this section as it is the most remote part (always good) and on the Googlemaps and Mark's tracks it looked like I may be able to follow tracks along the Luvuhu river all the way to Pafuri. The hope was riding along the river should provide for nice change in scenery and some potential game sighting opportunities. But to my dismay later closer look on T4A indicated that Google omitted to show Makuya Nature Reserve running along the western bank of the river, which would be most probably off-limits to bikes, especially as internet said there is no fence between the reserve and KNP.

On the positive side, the gloomy clouds from the day before were on the way out and the sunny day was promising more joyfull and vibrant colors in the bush. Another positive is that unlike the prior day the area was quite hilly providing for a nice change in the scenery.

I set-off on the local dirt road sneaking up the mountains through local villages and went to explore some side tracks heading into surrounding forrest:


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I came upon much less used and more gnarly section. Local officials as well as Marks track (designated as 'Hard') indicated this is not going to be walk in the park. I tried few 100 meters, but the track deteriorated further and this being 3rd day of quite hard riding on the big cow, I opted to turn back and return to the main dirt road, failing my first attempt to sneak up to the Luvuhu river:


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Found another rocky off shoot running to the top of the mountain and transmission tower. The tracks continued further into the forrest and I investigated for a bit but most of them eventually disappeared into the overgrowth, so I had to turn back again:


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 12, 2020, 07:23:08 pm
I headed north on the main dirt road for dozen or so km until I came past the mountains and reached another east running possibility for connection to Luvuhu. The scenery changed quite a lot. This whole area along the Limpopo river reminded me of Kaokoland in Namibia, with scorched rocky / sandy tracks running through scrub bush across low laying hills dotted with baobab trees. There was a little settlement with a boom, but the guard had no problem to let me through. He said I'm not going ot make it to Pafuri that way, but I explained that my 4x4 might give me chance to try some remote track:


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Eventually I came to dreaded gate to Makuya, which would not let me get to Luvuhu. So it was back to fence run - I turned north and followed the fence with the objective to reach the main gate about 10 km away. However there wasn't any track to speak off. To be sure there was wide clearing next to the fence, but not used by vehicles and it was like riding pile of rubble on construction side with sand and rocks thrown around haphazardly. After km or two I run out of commitment - It was perfectly doable, but just just hard work and no fun so I turned back again.


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: P.K. on August 12, 2020, 07:55:12 pm
Eish....classic stuff Martin

Minimal gear, solo, far from the Wimpy....couple of members could take a few pages from your book.

Don`t know that area at all , but you got me interested.

Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 12, 2020, 08:11:50 pm
I backtracked 10 or so km back to the main dirt road:


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It was relatively early afternoon, but I was starting to feel properly tired from the last three days of bundu bashing so I decided it will be short day and headed on the main dirt road to Masisi about 20 km north. On the way I came upon lonely rider on BMW 1290 (yeah, I know it has KTM sticker, but let's get real - that whole range is BMW) stationary under a tree. When I stopped to check whats up he called me by my name straight away, which is always bizzare experience in the middle of nowhere, but I figured he must have been following my trip on Adventure Riders SA thread on FB. Which he did and we chatted few minutes. He was part of the group of riders from Luvumbu who were staying in the nearby Pafuri river camp and spending weekend riding around. He was trying to gather scaterred group back together as some of the guys had flat they were trying to fix in the nearby Masisi, while other rode obliviously into the horizon.

When one of the guys come finally back I continued to Masisi where I located on third trial petrol place, filled up and headed on tar 35 or so km to the Popallin ranch on the banks of Limpopo river. Barbara (Minxy) recommended the place and I have booked two nights there. The ranch is wide spread with number of different camps (whole camps, not just campsites) spread in the bush few km apart. I expected to arrive to some kind of central reception which would direct me to my camp, but that wasn't the case and I got lost straightaway heading for the most remote camp. There they were able to radio the main camp and ask where I belong and then direct me to the right camp - Zebra camp 5 or so km further up the road.

Zebra camp turned out to be very well maintained place with luxury feel and very well priced challets at R500 a night. There weren't any other guests (while their other camp - DeWet camp was filled by group of 4x4ers) and no food, but I have arranged with the owners before and they left me meat and wood to keep me alive for the next two days. I spend the rest of the day doing one of my favourite things - bugger all, on an excuse that I need proper R&R.


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: growweblaar on August 12, 2020, 09:25:31 pm
Great RR!  :thumleft:

Zebra Camp looks amazing.

The Katoom looks funny (but cool) with the chopped screen.  :)
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on August 13, 2020, 03:59:51 am
Agreed, that Zebra camp looks great! Nice price too.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: m0lt3n on August 13, 2020, 07:20:19 am
Great RR spot!

What's up with your left hand grip?
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on August 13, 2020, 07:49:54 am
Great, I'm happy the routes I sent you were put to good use :thumleft:

Also glad you are doing a write up this time instead of just sharing on FB, have missed your RR's, FB is fine, but just not the same amount of detail ;D

Can't wait for the rest :ricky:

Whats the FB link, if I may?  :thumleft:

Xpat (Martin) normally shares his photos under the Adventure Riders SA group on FB, you will find them all there if you scroll through :thumleft:

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Koet on August 13, 2020, 11:40:13 am
Enjoying the RR as usual.  Thanks Marin!
Title: Posh is OK
Post by: Osadabwa on August 13, 2020, 11:54:05 am
@Xpat - Glad to see you posting something again! Don't get why you'd choose to ride that big buffalo for any reason, but I won't judge. I also won't judge your wise decision to stay at a posh lodge with a pool for a bit!

We just did 8 days in the North again. Highlights: Sent home a guy on a helicopter, rode the Suguta Dunes again, and a super posh lodge to top it off! Go see... stuck at the bottom of my ongoing 2020 Pigs thread. You gotta get up here with your 500 when the world returns to normal... if it ever does!

Ok, more please.
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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 13, 2020, 01:16:20 pm
I have never seen Xpat camping, with a tent I mean  :biggrin: Seem to remember he is not a fan  :lol8:
Title: Re: Posh is OK
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 01:43:46 pm
@Xpat - Glad to see you posting something again! Don't get why you'd choose to ride that big buffalo for any reason, but I won't judge. I also won't judge your wise decision to stay at a posh lodge with a pool for a bit!

We just did 8 days in the North again. Highlights: Sent home a guy on a helicopter, rode the Suguta Dunes again, and a super posh lodge to top it off! Go see... stuck at the bottom of my ongoing 2020 Pigs thread. You gotta get up here with your 500 when the world returns to normal... if it ever does!

Ok, more please.
 :snorting:

I'm working on it - trying to figure out how to become man of leisure permanently, my calling in this life. Give me year or 5 to get filthy rich, and I will move to your corner as it promises juicy riding that can keep me busy for many months  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 01:52:43 pm
I have never seen Xpat camping, with a tent I mean  :biggrin: Seem to remember he is not a fan  :lol8:

True, when fixed accommodation is readily available, I will always opt for that one - I prefer ride hard whole day and not waste energy and time on setting up / breaking camp.

However if there is no alternative to get good ride in, I will definitely do it. For example in June / July when places were closed or required some kind of permit, I did manage two overnight weekends in the bush:

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on August 13, 2020, 02:56:33 pm
Fannnn tastic!

There is such a special feeling being out there on one's own!
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 13, 2020, 03:35:36 pm
I have never seen Xpat camping, with a tent I mean  :biggrin: Seem to remember he is not a fan  :lol8:

True, when fixed accommodation is readily available, I will always opt for that one - I prefer ride hard whole day and not waste energy and time on setting up / breaking camp.

However if there is no alternative to get good ride in, I will definitely do it. For example in June / July when places were closed or required some kind of permit, I did manage two overnight weekends in the bush:

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De Wildt ?
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 03:47:16 pm
De Wildt ?

No, somewhere north of Borakalalo NP.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 06:18:45 pm
Day 4 - Exploring towards Crook's corner

Plan for day 4 was to explore the north-eastern most corner of RSA adjacent to the Crook's corner. Originally I thought I was doing Crook's corner but got explained on FB that the corner itself is where the borders of RSA, Moz and Zim meet, i.e. inside the KNP on SA side. So I have made it as far as I could - i.e. to the KNP fence.

This is the area that @Minxy and @Hondsekierie explored few weeks back and includes Jack's pass. I knew from Minxy that this is army area and called an army officer for permission to ride there. He told me that army doesn't like people driving on the border patrol route running along the Limpopo border km or few inland but admitted (I think - I was making the call next to noisy local and didn't get everything 100%) that they cannot really prevent you driving on the road as long as you stay on the road. I might have got that wrong, but my guesstimate is that the patrol route is boundary on the outside of the army area and their zone is really only north of the road (because there was barbed wire running along the border side of the road) and covers the area between the patrol road and Limpopo river / border.

If somebody here knows for sure where the boundary of army zone is, I would appreciate the information as I would like to go back there and explore some more, however ideally outside of the army zone. If I'm right the area south of patrol road is free to ride and there are plenty of very enticing tracks there that I want to explore.

I couldn't get to patrol route directly from Popallin ranch as they didn't have a key to th gate at the boundary of ranch so instead got back on the main Pafuri - Messina tar road, road few km east and in the first village took double track north that winded through low hills for many km before it delivered me to the patrol route. The track running through the hills again reminded me closely of scenery in the nortnern Kaokoland on the way to Van Zyl's pass. There were plenty of criss-crossing tracks and I will be back to explore those properly:


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On the patrol route I straight away came upon an army camp and they stopped me reiterating that they don't like people driving there. I have mentioned the officer who gave me permission and they relaxed and we chatted a bit about my bike before I continued on. I have run into another troop within few km and went through the same routine:


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 06:27:29 pm
I might have wandered a bit off the patrol route here and there, as the instruction wasn't completely clear (should I not move off the patrol road or any road - and there were plenty of tracks running to the river), but I didn't want to cause trouble to the officer who gave me permission so usually turned back as soon as it was clear that the tracks are runnin straight for the border. But the riding there is just sublime - it would be fantastic if somebody in the know can make a deal with the army that would allow bikers to explore there.

I tentatively tried also tracks that I tought head for Jack's pass, but they all eventually got quite misused and overgrown with thorns. On day 4 of riding I wasn't keen to be crashing through thorns (something I was doinb every weekend over the past 2 months north of GP), so always turned back.


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 06:41:20 pm
I believe that I have eventually stumbled upon the Jack's pass by coincidence by exploring one of the side tracks off the patrol road. To my surprise it was very easy ride on that track without any drama I have expected based on some reports I have seen. The reason I believe was that I came on the side cheat road from the south, instead on coming on the original west-east road that had to climb and descent up and down the pass from the nearby lowland. I came from the high ground on which patrol road run.

I rode a bit up and down and about the pass, but eventually returned back to patrol road as the track to the east of the pass became again overgrown by thorns.

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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Minxy on August 13, 2020, 07:01:23 pm
Stunning photos!

You need to please send me your track log please Xpat :biggrin:

I'm not sure you were on Jack's Pass, it is difficult to tell from just those photos as near the end of the pass a lot of things all looked the same. If you approached it from West to East like we did though you'd go past the military base, also you'd go past the Fort Ghost Pop sign, shortly after that you are in the tricky sections. I'd like to compare what you did to what we did. It is a real pity they didn't have the key for you. Just riding on the farm and next to the Limpopo is magic. Will have to go back there again to explore more! :)
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Noneking on August 13, 2020, 07:02:01 pm
Excellent report as always. Thank you!
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 07:02:04 pm
Past Jack's pass I continued on patrol route past the entrance to the Army area all the way to the end at the KNP fence. There I turned south and followed the fence to the Pafuri gate about 10 km south.


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From the gate I pushed on south through a village towards the Makuyu Reserve main gate. I did hit the Makuyu fence after about 10 - 15 km and followed it all the way to the gate, where I checked if they might let me go in on  the bike, but no bueno.


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At the Makuyu gate I was more or less done for the day and took the main dirt / tar road to Masisi, where I filled up and headed back to the Zebra camp for another night. At the ranch crossing over small side river (probably lake at this time of the year) I spotted few crocks lazing about:


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Back at the camp it was braai and chill time again.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 13, 2020, 07:06:43 pm
Stunning photos!

You need to please send me your track log please Xpat :biggrin:

I'm not sure you were on Jack's Pass, it is difficult to tell from just those photos as near the end of the pass a lot of things all looked the same. If you approached it from West to East like we did though you'd go past the military base, also you'd go past the Fort Ghost Pop sign, shortly after that you are in the tricky sections. I'd like to compare what you did to what we did. It is a real pity they didn't have the key for you. Just riding on the farm and next to the Limpopo is magic. Will have to go back there again to explore more! :)

I think I was on the pass at least based on my (admitedly not very good and of uncertain origin) track - just using a chicken route I have happened upon. I will send you the tracks and you can check  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on August 14, 2020, 11:41:18 am
I would love your tracks too please if you dont mind. Very unlikely I will be up there any time soon but will be a nice to have if by chance one day I am.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: XT JOE on August 14, 2020, 02:07:51 pm
Thanks Martin- really enjoyed
Title: Miombo
Post by: Osadabwa on August 14, 2020, 06:39:34 pm
That Southern African bush is something else. Looks just like where I was in Zambia... dry this time of year, not a chance of rain, not a cloud in the sky all day long... and windy. I can smell it! But again, Xpat, why the hell didn't you just take the 500? You could have been drifting all those corners, launching over all those rocks! Maybe you did with the big KTM, but not with the same big grin!

Fak. Got home from my long ride less than a week ago and I'm already gagging to be back out there again! What an addiction!

 :snorting:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: JonW on August 14, 2020, 07:09:21 pm
Very nice Martin
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 14, 2020, 07:11:24 pm
Day 5 - Popallin Ranch to Gangsta's Paradise

The most challenging day of the trip because of over 300 km of N1 was upon me. Luckily I still had some good tracks to ride to Louis Trichardt through fantastic Venda-land. How this area with sandy roads and mountain passes isn't the main hotspot for adventure riding in SA is beyond me. At the same time I'm glad - adventure ridings should be exclusive, once an area is overran by mainstream masses it loses its appeal to this snob. I will definitely be back and am busy plotting little track crisscrossing the mountains as I'm writing this.

I will let the pictures show what is on offer in Venda-land:


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Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 14, 2020, 07:23:00 pm
And some more:


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On N1 I had to save BMW who I'm guessing ventured out of the reach of BMW Assist - one of those types who believe that if they have tubeless tyres, they don't need to carry any tool. Anyway - with the combination of tubeless fix kit from another dude on Honda Paneuropean, and my compressor and flat fixing skills, we sorted the dude out.


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That's it - was a good trip and I will definitely be back to explore Venda properly.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 14, 2020, 07:33:26 pm
I would love your tracks too please if you dont mind. Very unlikely I will be up there any time soon but will be a nice to have if by chance one day I am.

PM me your email and I will send it to you. The track is too big to be attached here.
Title: Re: Miombo
Post by: Xpat on August 14, 2020, 07:36:58 pm
That Southern African bush is something else. Looks just like where I was in Zambia... dry this time of year, not a chance of rain, not a cloud in the sky all day long... and windy. I can smell it! But again, Xpat, why the hell didn't you just take the 500? You could have been drifting all those corners, launching over all those rocks! Maybe you did with the big KTM, but not with the same big grin!

Fak. Got home from my long ride less than a week ago and I'm already gagging to be back out there again! What an addiction!

 :snorting:

This wasn't 500 territory - too easy for that as proven by the fact that I have managed it on 990 hippo. 690 would have been the most appropriate, but it being not that long trip I opted for heavier 990 to get more exercise. And that 990 (with properly set-up suspension) indeed is deceiptively capable even in the hands of bimbo like me. But yes, since day 3 my internal battery usually run out in the early afternoon.

But if I'm going to do proper bush in Bots 500 it is (I did 3 days on 690 just before lockdown, and was knackered as well)>
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 14, 2020, 10:40:27 pm
The red sand photos above is it part of the Kruger Fence track ? Looks almost like some places in the Kalahari
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Sheepman on August 15, 2020, 07:49:55 am
Great report, thanks  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 15, 2020, 02:47:29 pm
The red sand photos above is it part of the Kruger Fence track ? Looks almost like some places in the Kalahari

No, it is Venda land between Popallin ranch and Louis Trichardt. Yes there are sections reminding Kalahari, but quite a few of these sand tracks are surprisingly on top of significant mountain range, which I haven't seen in Kalahari yet.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: growweblaar on August 17, 2020, 09:49:28 am
Generally, what was your reception like from the local population along the route?  :)
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 17, 2020, 01:39:12 pm
Generally, what was your reception like from the local population along the route?  :)

People were perfectly fine - going about their daily life, friendly and inquisitive. As I fully expect them to be based on my 100s k km riding through Africa.

From your question I sense you think they could behave differently. Why woul you think so?
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: growweblaar on August 25, 2020, 08:01:38 am
Generally, what was your reception like from the local population along the route?  :)

People were perfectly fine - going about their daily life, friendly and inquisitive. As I fully expect them to be based on my 100s k km riding through Africa.

From your question I sense you think they could behave differently. Why woul you think so?

My experience has been mostly good, which is another reason to love DS biking. There are some areas that have not been great, but I suspect it was due to the behaviour of bikers/tourists in the past (e.g. Lesotho). Glad to hear your experience was good in that area  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 27, 2020, 10:59:23 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?
Title: Kruger fence run
Post by: Noneking on August 27, 2020, 11:02:22 am
Generally, what was your reception like from the local population along the route?  :)

People were perfectly fine - going about their daily life, friendly and inquisitive. As I fully expect them to be based on my 100s k km riding through Africa.

From your question I sense you think they could behave differently. Why woul you think so?
Probably because a certain member reckons you need to ride with firearm and risk being beheaded by “savages” when adv riding in SA.

Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 27, 2020, 11:26:58 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?

I don't mind, I had a look some time ago, but I'm not sure they overlap much as I was going east -west and your tracks north-south.

What you want me to comment on - how technical I think they are?
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 27, 2020, 11:33:47 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?

I don't mind, I had a look some time ago, but I'm not sure they overlap much as I was going east -west and your tracks north-south.

What you want me to comment on - how technical I think they are?
Besides Kruger fence which I have not ridden I don't think they will be technical at all but the idea is rather to have scenic roads which most skill levels can enjoy. Thing is from Musina to Burgersfort area south of Orrie I'm not sure if the route is all doable as I combined some tracks I have and other came from GE. So maybe if you have ridden some of them before and can confirm or have a better suggestion that would be great.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 27, 2020, 11:38:40 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?

I don't mind, I had a look some time ago, but I'm not sure they overlap much as I was going east -west and your tracks north-south.

What you want me to comment on - how technical I think they are?
Besides Kruger fence which I have not ridden I don't think they will be technical at all but the idea is rather to have scenic roads which most skill levels can enjoy. Thing is from Musina to Burgersfort area south of Orrie I'm not sure if the route is all doable as I combined some tracks I have and other came from GE.

OK, I will have a look in the evening. This scenic designation is not my cup of tea - I would rather send the to do round trip of Penge and Wolkberg, or at least send them down Orrie Baragwanath (which by the way you can do no problem - I think you said somewhere that you can't) but I did ride through Burgersfort few times, so maybe I can provide some kind of insight.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 27, 2020, 11:41:54 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?

I don't mind, I had a look some time ago, but I'm not sure they overlap much as I was going east -west and your tracks north-south.

What you want me to comment on - how technical I think they are?
Besides Kruger fence which I have not ridden I don't think they will be technical at all but the idea is rather to have scenic roads which most skill levels can enjoy. Thing is from Musina to Burgersfort area south of Orrie I'm not sure if the route is all doable as I combined some tracks I have and other came from GE.

OK, I will have a look in the evening. This scenic designation is not my cup of tea - I would rather send the to do round trip of Penge and Wolkberg, or at least send them down Orrie Baragwanath (which by the way you can do no problem - I think you said somewhere that you can't) but I did ride through Burgersfort few times, so maybe I can provide some kind of insight.
Orrie we could never do North to South, always stopped at the boom gate and not allowed through but coming from the southern side you just sign a form at the top of the pass and off you go through the boom at the other side  :o Maybe that has changed now ? Orrie is on the existing route for now.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Xpat on August 27, 2020, 11:44:48 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?

I don't mind, I had a look some time ago, but I'm not sure they overlap much as I was going east -west and your tracks north-south.

What you want me to comment on - how technical I think they are?
Besides Kruger fence which I have not ridden I don't think they will be technical at all but the idea is rather to have scenic roads which most skill levels can enjoy. Thing is from Musina to Burgersfort area south of Orrie I'm not sure if the route is all doable as I combined some tracks I have and other came from GE.

OK, I will have a look in the evening. This scenic designation is not my cup of tea - I would rather send the to do round trip of Penge and Wolkberg, or at least send them down Orrie Baragwanath (which by the way you can do no problem - I think you said somewhere that you can't) but I did ride through Burgersfort few times, so maybe I can provide some kind of insight.
Orrie we could never do North to South, always stopped at the boom gate and not allowed through but coming from the southern side you just sign a form at the top of the pass and off you go through the boom at the other side  :o Maybe that has changed now ? Orrie is on the existing route for now.

I've done it at least three times. The thing is - you need to go through main gate in the east and get permit of course. So if you came from Penge, you didn't have permit and that is why they wouldn't let you go through. But if you get to the gate from Penge (extremely scenic section in old forrest), get permit and then get back up (or if you are coming from east just go through the gate and get permit), you can ride down OB no problem
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: sidetrack on August 27, 2020, 11:48:21 am
Would you mind looking at the tracks I plotted for the TSAT from Musina past Kruger ?

I don't mind, I had a look some time ago, but I'm not sure they overlap much as I was going east -west and your tracks north-south.

What you want me to comment on - how technical I think they are?
Besides Kruger fence which I have not ridden I don't think they will be technical at all but the idea is rather to have scenic roads which most skill levels can enjoy. Thing is from Musina to Burgersfort area south of Orrie I'm not sure if the route is all doable as I combined some tracks I have and other came from GE.

OK, I will have a look in the evening. This scenic designation is not my cup of tea - I would rather send the to do round trip of Penge and Wolkberg, or at least send them down Orrie Baragwanath (which by the way you can do no problem - I think you said somewhere that you can't) but I did ride through Burgersfort few times, so maybe I can provide some kind of insight.
Orrie we could never do North to South, always stopped at the boom gate and not allowed through but coming from the southern side you just sign a form at the top of the pass and off you go through the boom at the other side  :o Maybe that has changed now ? Orrie is on the existing route for now.

I've done it at least three times. The thing is - you need to go through main gate in the east and get permit of course. So if you came from Penge, you didn't have permit and that is why they wouldn't let you go through. But if you get to the gate from Penge (extremely scenic section in old forrest), get permit and then get back up (or if you are coming from east just go through the gate and get permit), you can ride down OB no problem
Yes will need to investigate this have not been there for quite some time, I don't think Penge is 100% legal to ride through although never had any issues also no locked gates, fences etc. Would prefer not to send a lot of people through there and it can get rough but like you said very scenic. Mafefe has some nice views and idea would be to ride through there after Orrie. The east gate for Orrie you are talking about is the attached one ? Idea was to approach it from the R36 main road but could never get access before, if this is not the case now then great.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Just Blip It! on August 27, 2020, 02:25:09 pm
Sad I missed the few days! Nice report. Definitely want to ride up north for a bit of exploration.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: 0012 on August 27, 2020, 03:41:10 pm
thanks Xpat, really enjoyed this, as usual   :ricky:
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Malcolm on September 07, 2020, 01:02:09 pm
Thanks Martin for the effort, if you are ok i will PM you my email address as i would love a copy of your tracks, especially the actual ridden ones.  I will forward you a beer token or two as a reward!
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Malcolm on September 14, 2020, 04:34:55 pm
Did some of the tracks i got from Martin this last week, was very scenic and a fun ride.  The more north you go the better it gets.  People were very chilled, slept out in the bush a few nights, was cool fun.  Thanks again Martin for your assistance.
Title: Re: Kruger fence run
Post by: Dacquiri on October 06, 2020, 10:05:00 pm
Thanks for an informative report Expat.  Another bucket list area to explore one day. Do you think the army are possibly concerned with safety regarding you being there close to the border? Was also wondering if you could bush camp there as well?