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Title: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Spectaitor on October 05, 2020, 11:02:31 am
Clearly a new dual sport, another dirt?

Whatcha guys think?
Any guesses to a new name/model?
KLR700
KLX250S
Versys-x 700

https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-features/kawasaki-to-reveal-six-new-models-on-nov-23.html (https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-features/kawasaki-to-reveal-six-new-models-on-nov-23.html)

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Wolzak on October 05, 2020, 11:06:16 am
 :thumleft: :sip:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on October 05, 2020, 11:18:30 am
Some very thin tyres under there.. I recon some lower cc models.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 05, 2020, 11:21:17 am
Why not now already? :patch:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on October 05, 2020, 11:28:32 am
Why not now already? :patch:

Same like what Honda did with the New twin.. the tease creates posts like these.  :sip:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 05, 2020, 11:30:39 am
Why not now already? :patch:

Same like what Honda did with the New twin.. the tease creates posts like these.  :sip:
Mmmm to justify overpricing... >:D
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: stcomza on October 05, 2020, 11:36:48 am

What about the ZX-25R? There is a couple of videos on YT from Indonesia. Looks and sounds like a cracker  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on October 05, 2020, 11:38:24 am
Probably find a KLR type bike with the current Versys engine
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Gerrard on October 05, 2020, 11:42:29 am
Probably find a KLR type bike with the current Versys engine

If only  :drif: The bike they should have made 13 years ago
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: @offroad on October 05, 2020, 11:43:07 am
Probably find a KLR type bike with the current Versys engine

That would be nice  O0
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 05, 2020, 11:49:06 am
Probably find a KLR type bike with the current Versys engine

If only  :drif: The bike they should have made 13 years ago
Or just upgraded the KLE500 to 700CC
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IDR on October 05, 2020, 11:50:24 am
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/new-kawasaki-klr650-coming-for-2021/

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Look at that curved bash guard poking out from under the cover—it’s a perfect match for the old KLR’s. The same goes for the wheels and the chain guard that can be seen, and even the bolts holding the footpegs on are visibly identical to the KLR650′s. There have been rumors for months that Kawasaki is going to launch a KLR700, with some suggesting the engine could even be a twin, based on the Versys 650′s, rather than the thumping single of the old model, to bring the fight to Yamaha’s Ténéré 700. It looks like we’ll find out for sure on November 23.

(https://www.cycleworld.com/resizer/2aXD55xajqtHg0-acwEmIajdKhQ=/1034x776/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bonnier/LZ6JTBZ2GZFLNGPBTMQ27MLU4M.jpg)

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2020, 12:02:19 pm
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/new-kawasaki-klr650-coming-for-2021/

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Look at that curved bash guard poking out from under the cover—it’s a perfect match for the old KLR’s. The same goes for the wheels and the chain guard that can be seen, and even the bolts holding the footpegs on are visibly identical to the KLR650′s. There have been rumors for months that Kawasaki is going to launch a KLR700, with some suggesting the engine could even be a twin, based on the Versys 650′s, rather than the thumping single of the old model, to bring the fight to Yamaha’s Ténéré 700. It looks like we’ll find out for sure on November 23.

(https://www.cycleworld.com/resizer/2aXD55xajqtHg0-acwEmIajdKhQ=/1034x776/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bonnier/LZ6JTBZ2GZFLNGPBTMQ27MLU4M.jpg)
Or maybe a KLR with "bold new graphics"  :lol8:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: BuRP on October 05, 2020, 12:15:49 pm
Or maybe a KLR with "bold new graphics"

.... designed by a youthful team of antique beancounters!  :P
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 05, 2020, 12:18:07 pm
Or maybe a KLR with "bold new graphics"  :lol8:
Doubt that, any new KLR will have to have an engine with the latest emission standards etc. My bet is the Versys engine in the old frame. Very doable from Kawasaki's point of view.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2020, 12:27:17 pm
Or maybe a KLR with "bold new graphics"  :lol8:
Doubt that, any new KLR will have to have an engine with the latest emission standards etc. My bet is the Versys engine in the old frame. Very doable from Kawasaki's point of view.
Then the old KLR is going to wobble even more  :biggrin: Hopefully they upgrade the suspension as well, and the looks
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Gerrard on October 05, 2020, 12:28:57 pm
It would have taken the smallest amount of R&D to build an Adversys. Touratech sells a kit
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2020, 12:39:08 pm
It would have taken the smallest amount of R&D to build an Adversys. Touratech sells a kit
So iets  :deal:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2020, 12:39:46 pm
Another rendering / wishful thinking
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: skydiver on October 05, 2020, 01:07:43 pm
It definitely looks like a high fender underneath that cover
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 05, 2020, 01:10:05 pm
Or maybe a KLR with "bold new graphics"

I think old KLR with doohickey already fitted. ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2020, 02:31:22 pm
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Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: lukestrugnell on October 05, 2020, 04:14:47 pm
My money is on a Verys 400-x, Its a logical step to put the ninja 400 engine into the Versys platform.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 05, 2020, 04:28:46 pm
My money is on a Verys 400-x, Its a logical step to put the ninja 400 engine into the Versys platform.
Would be disappointing
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: lukestrugnell on October 05, 2020, 04:29:55 pm
My money is on a Verys 400-x, Its a logical step to put the ninja 400 engine into the Versys platform.
Would be disappointing
Not really, the 300 was great the 400 would be awesome.

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Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Rough Rider on October 05, 2020, 05:31:09 pm
I would like to see a small bore supercharged engine in a dirt bike frame. 
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Cracker on October 05, 2020, 06:58:46 pm
I'd like to see a bike I can afford ...............................
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 05, 2020, 08:06:20 pm
I'd like to see a bike I can afford ...............................
Ditto... their last attempt was insane... 300cc at 650 prices... >:D
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 06, 2020, 09:38:41 am
https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/new-kawasaki-klr650-coming-2021/
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Gerrard on October 06, 2020, 09:49:10 am
https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/new-kawasaki-klr650-coming-2021/

Nice copy of an XTZ660. But, one of the best thumpers I've owned.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 06, 2020, 09:56:10 am
https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/new-kawasaki-klr650-coming-2021/
Whatever it is it might be here before the T7? ;) >:D :peepwall: :lol8:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Clockwork Orange on October 06, 2020, 10:29:38 am
I would love to see Kawasaki as a contender in the Adventure bike market. I have a soft spot for the Lime Green Machines from my MX days. Had  many KX's and liked them all. My 2004 KX 250 had a particularly mean streak :biggrin:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: KiLRoy on October 06, 2020, 10:34:39 am
I would love to see Kawasaki as a contender in the Adventure bike market. I have a soft spot for the Lime Green Machines from my MX days. Had  many KX's and liked them all. My 2004 KX 250 had a particularly mean streak :biggrin:

Agreed. I also loved my previous Versys. Such a lekka daily bike
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: big oil on October 06, 2020, 11:06:54 am
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Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 10, 2020, 06:57:10 pm
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Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Cracker on October 10, 2020, 07:02:42 pm
Nope, I don't like that thing at all - but that Tengai looks the biz.

Funny how the weekend warriors can design the perfect bike but all the manufacturers can do is copy the rest.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: skydiver on October 11, 2020, 07:44:22 am
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Put a 450 motor in something like that and Kawasaki can compete in Dakar
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: big oil on October 11, 2020, 08:21:14 am
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dat kawi is hawwt  :drif:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Rough Rider on October 12, 2020, 08:39:49 am
I would like to see a small bore supercharged engine in a dirt bike frame.

I see that Honda has filed a patent for a supercharged engine for the Africa Twin.

https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/honda-developing-supercharged-africa-twin/
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 21, 2020, 07:51:35 am
If it's the same old KLR surely it cant be marketed as a new model coming out ?

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: KiLRoy on October 21, 2020, 09:45:33 am
Why, thats what they did the last time
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 21, 2020, 12:10:34 pm
If it's the same old KLR surely it cant be marketed as a new model coming out ?


If it has EFI then it will be new, bet that would add another 5kg to the weight too... ;-)
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 21, 2020, 12:15:22 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 21, 2020, 12:23:04 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 21, 2020, 12:25:54 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Having had two Rotax 650's in the garage I can honestly say no matter what speed you ride them they do not use oil ever. How that happens I do not know.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on October 21, 2020, 12:28:51 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Having had two Rotax 650's in the garage I can honestly say no matter what speed you ride them they do not use oil ever. How that happens I do not know.
I should have qualified the above Thumper statement with the words "Japanese and British" :deal: :imaposer:
Germans/Austrians are known to make better oil rings than the rest... >:D
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 21, 2020, 12:31:10 pm
Germans/Austrians are known to make better oil rings than the rest...

 :laughing4: :lol8:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LeonDude on October 21, 2020, 12:31:34 pm
Sub.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on October 21, 2020, 12:47:04 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Having had two Rotax 650's in the garage I can honestly say no matter what speed you ride them they do not use oil ever. How that happens I do not know.
I should have qualified the above Thumper statement with the words "Japanese and British" :deal: :imaposer:
Germans/Austrians are known to make better oil rings than the rest... >:D
No oil usage on XTZ
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 21, 2020, 12:48:59 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Having had two Rotax 650's in the garage I can honestly say no matter what speed you ride them they do not use oil ever. How that happens I do not know.
I should have qualified the above Thumper statement with the words "Japanese and British" :deal: :imaposer:
Germans/Austrians are known to make better oil rings than the rest... >:D
No oil usage on XTZ
I've heard they use nada oil too :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Hando on October 21, 2020, 12:50:49 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Having had two Rotax 650's in the garage I can honestly say no matter what speed you ride them they do not use oil ever. How that happens I do not know.
I have to agree. I sold my 650 GS on 138 000 km. Just before I sold it I rode to Bloem and Back from Cape Town. . I was in a hurry and hung on the cable running as hard as that little 650 would go.
Got back to Cape Town without having used any oil.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 21, 2020, 12:52:47 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
Having had two Rotax 650's in the garage I can honestly say no matter what speed you ride them they do not use oil ever. How that happens I do not know.
I have to agree. I sold my 650 GS on 138 000 km. Just before I sold it I rode to Bloem and Back from Cape Town. . I was in a hurry and hung on the cable running as hard as that little 650 would go.
Got back to Cape Town without having used any oil.
Damn that's good service from a single!!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LeonDude on October 21, 2020, 07:41:28 pm
Can anybody help me with the part number for the Snitch Big Bore upgrade kit pls?
Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LeonDude on November 23, 2020, 01:54:19 pm
Any news on the big reveal?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Omninorm on November 23, 2020, 04:32:59 pm
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KLX300 to compete with the CRF300L maybe
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Welsh on November 23, 2020, 04:56:32 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
They had a whole batch of non homogenous liners, so they wore weird only fix was a new liner I think.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: dieseldawie on November 23, 2020, 05:23:20 pm
Think they sorted the oval barrels, fitted Doohickey and EFI. Should make it reliable as an anvil now. :thumleft:
and hopefully the new one would not drink oil if you go faster than 120.
Drinking oil is a thumper thing... efi or not... but yeah that would make the KLR better. :thumleft:
They had a whole batch of non homogenous liners, so they wore weird only fix was a new liner I think.

Mainly the 2008. Something to do with clamping the barrel incorrectly during machining, so when released bore was Oval. Newer ones also have better rings. @Pebbles bike got to over 70000km before we bored 0.25mm and used OEM KAWA newer piston. Its much better but still uses oil if you thrash it. I say WE , but actually @Groenie did the work and I just drank his beer..
Am watching this post as I am also watch the Yamaha T700 post as well. I still do not like taking my AT in the rough stuff and pillion does not work for the 2 of us. I better KLR would still tick the boxes
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: XRRX on November 23, 2020, 06:58:16 pm
KLX300 and lots of road bikes.... >:(
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on November 23, 2020, 09:09:31 pm
KLX300 and lots of road bikes.... >:(

So far I have seen KLX300 , KLX300SM , ZX10R , ZX10RR and Z H2 SE , so still one more , a KLR650 replacement makes sense , if they do they will probably use the 650 Versys engine which is an absolute gem
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on November 24, 2020, 12:41:11 am
ditto that on the 650 twin in the Versys. I quite like the Versys and it does quite well but a bit more suspension and spoked adventure sized wheels would work wonders. I don't think there is any hope for the KLX250 but my wife does like it and it does get me to the shops.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on November 24, 2020, 01:19:47 am
Games up. I see that it is going to be the KLX300 engine with the KLX running gear as a road legal machine. Looks like it still has the 250's 7l tank and thousand year old LCD display. Bit under $9000AUD puts it in with the DRZ and DR650 but not much else.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on November 24, 2020, 06:33:36 am
It doesn’t look like a KLR650 replacement
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Groenie on November 24, 2020, 07:15:24 am
That sucks! No new KLR, only a baby KLX and some AI shit that would interest gamer dudes. Nothing for "real" bikers.

KHI is also spinning off the motorcycle division as a separate company. Is this the end of Kawa bikes?

There's another launch on 26 Jan, but the back row looks like side-by-sides and yet more soopa bikes.

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: dirtyXT on November 24, 2020, 08:29:29 am
 :thumleft: kawasaki will always be my go to brand where possible. a dirt bike should be green, finished an klaar.  :ricky: 300/400cc just makes sense to me personally, I always seem to have a better time on a small bike, more sincere respect for power. 
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: GraZer on November 24, 2020, 08:52:47 am
At the very end of their 2021 launch video. Kawasaki state that some new models will only be announced in Jan 2021.
One of which is the rumoured KLR replacement, which can be seen under wraps at the end of the video (32:20)



Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on November 24, 2020, 11:34:48 am
Is this a "liegstorie" then?

https://riders.drivemag.com/news/kawasaki-klx-700-could-join-the-adventure-game-would-you-buy-it/
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LeonDude on November 24, 2020, 11:57:51 am
Is this a "liegstorie" then?

https://riders.drivemag.com/news/kawasaki-klx-700-could-join-the-adventure-game-would-you-buy-it/
Nah, just speculation on the reporter's side.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on November 24, 2020, 01:38:29 pm
Ag no a bored out 1995 bike, all hail the T7 still king of the castle  :deal:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on November 24, 2020, 02:02:16 pm
KHI is also spinning off the motorcycle division as a separate company. Is this the end of Kawa bikes?

Again? FFS did they not learn the lesson first time round?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Spectaitor on November 24, 2020, 02:31:56 pm
Have some faith guys.

There are more reveals to come.
With the Honda CRF300 possibility it looks to be a very promising time for future lightweight adv and dual sports  :ricky:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on November 24, 2020, 02:58:44 pm
KHI is also spinning off the motorcycle division as a separate company. Is this the end of Kawa bikes?

Again? FFS did they not learn the lesson first time round?

I didn’t know they had separated before
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on November 24, 2020, 03:00:10 pm
KHI is also spinning off the motorcycle division as a separate company. Is this the end of Kawa bikes?

Again? FFS did they not learn the lesson first time round?

I didn’t know they had separated before
Yep, owned by Suzuki for a while as I recall?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IDR on November 24, 2020, 03:01:41 pm
Yep, owned by Suzuki for a while as I recall?

Nope - only developed bikes together, never had any cross ownership.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LeonDude on November 24, 2020, 03:04:29 pm
Typical Kawa, a piece will fall off.
Quick, sell them some Locktite.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on November 24, 2020, 03:06:28 pm
Typical Kawa, a piece will fall off.
Quick, sell them some Locktite.
The chinese bike manufacturers copied "pieces falling off" very well on their bikes!! ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on November 24, 2020, 03:21:06 pm
Yep, owned by Suzuki for a while as I recall?

Nope - only developed bikes together, never had any cross ownership.
There was some issue between 2001 and 2004 as I recall. That reference also seems to have been taken down from WIKI. ;)
The current move seems to make sense as the Motorcycle division will be an independent entity it seems.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on November 24, 2020, 06:06:39 pm
Yep, owned by Suzuki for a while as I recall?

Nope - only developed bikes together, never had any cross ownership.

Not so much cross developing as sharing models , for example the DRZ400 also became a KLX400 , the KX65 also became an RM65 , and similar situation with other models .
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on November 24, 2020, 06:16:07 pm
It seems Honda is the only one serious about developing small DS bikes from the land of the rising sun
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Fenderbender on November 24, 2020, 06:17:30 pm
Daai KLX 300's was goeie enduro fietse . My vraag is net , wat het Kawasaki in die laaste 20 jaar gedoen ???
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on November 24, 2020, 06:51:18 pm
Daai KLX 300's was goeie enduro fietse . My vraag is net , wat het Kawasaki in die laaste 20 jaar gedoen ???

Lots , not on the enduro side though , numerous toad racing championships as well as success in USA off-road and MX racing .
I have a feeling we could see a rejuvenated Kawasaki now that they have separated from KHI
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: XRRX on November 24, 2020, 07:05:02 pm
I belief this 300 will be the ideal 2nd bike!!

Question is - Will we see it here and at what price?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on November 24, 2020, 07:14:52 pm
I wouldn’t  mind the full off-road model , but we are definitely not getting those
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2020, 08:08:55 am
Kawa sold about 5 x KLX250's in SA. Doubt we will see the KLX300 year.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on November 25, 2020, 08:13:54 am
Kawa sold about 5 x KLX250's in SA. Doubt we will see the KLX300 year.
The price was way too high for this market. >:D
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Omninorm on November 25, 2020, 08:33:25 am
I’m quite excited for the KLX300 and CRF300L as a mess around bike commuter perhaps.
The 300sm is particularly suited for that.
But in the end even a second hand KTM690 might be the better buy.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2020, 09:35:18 am
Kawa sold about 5 x KLX250's in SA. Doubt we will see the KLX300 year.
The price was way too high for this market. >:D
That is the argument for most bikes  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Serfie on November 25, 2020, 01:09:42 pm
Does anybody know whats been happening to the launch of the 6 new models that was scheduled for 23 November? Google has nothing and I haven't seen anything else where?  ???
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Mapog on November 25, 2020, 01:12:36 pm
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on December 30, 2020, 09:39:23 am
Any news on the two new models to appear early 2021 ? Still talk of a twin and smaller single DS bike on the interwebs.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 04, 2021, 08:55:41 am
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 22, 2021, 12:08:10 pm
:peepwall:
4 days to go and get our dreams smashed again or ......
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 22, 2021, 12:43:20 pm
My money is on a Versys 400. That would be a real nice little bike, that motor is a gem in the Ninja and Z.
Sadly it seems the KLX300 which is roadworthy will not come to SA but only USA.
A real nice bike, and here in SA the 300L and Rally should do well.
Kawasaki could have had a slice of that pie....
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on January 22, 2021, 01:06:27 pm
There is no pie. The bike companies can count the bikes they sell to old grey men in RSA on their fingers and toes.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 22, 2021, 01:53:03 pm
My money is on a Versys 400. That would be a real nice little bike, that motor is a gem in the Ninja and Z.
Sadly it seems the KLX300 which is roadworthy will not come to SA but only USA.
A real nice bike, and here in SA the 300L and Rally should do well.
Kawasaki could have had a slice of that pie....
Comparison between the two via ADVrider

There are definitely some upsides to the CRF300L though. Pros:

Better dash with fuel and gear position indicator.
Better looking
LED lights
Slightly better balanced chassis (you wont drop it as much)
Knurling around the inner circumference of the rims, which grips the bead of the tyre (no rim-lock's needed)

Cons:
Soggy suspension (too lightly sprung, not enough compression damping, not enough rebound damping, none adjustable, not a piggy-back shock, all steel construction).
Self tapping screws, straight into plastic, to hold the air-box cover and rear engine mudguard in place (verging on being unacceptable, strip out easily if over tightened)
Seems to be a problem with head-stock bearings going prematurely. Mine were toast by 6000mls. Heard other story's of similar. No such problems with KLX.
Poorly fitting handlebar controls.
One large sticky outy vulnerable radiator (very easily crushed in a fall. Needs radiator guard)

KLX300 dual-sport Pros:

Vastly superior suspension (fully adjustable aluminum piggy-back shock for the rear, compression adjustment on the forks)
Better cooling (two radiators)
Slightly bigger engine, KlX 292cc vs CRF 286cc, also KLX has slightly higher compression ratio. We already know the HP and Torque figures for the CRF300L, and if the KLX300 dual-sport from the early 2000's is anything to go by (same engine), the KLX will be more powerful in both respects.
Stronger wheels (thicker spokes).
Generally slightly better attention to detail (Impact protection for rear brake caliper, dust guard for throttle body actuator/cables, head-stock bearing cover to stop water ingress, Aluminum chain guide, better fittings and fixtures in certain places).

KLX300 cons:
Generally old/awkward looking.
Lack of protection on rear sub-frame (stones flicked up by the rear tyre chip the paint and cause rust)
Engine does not use roller rocker arms (More friction/wear on cam shaft's)
No fuel gauge.
No hazard lights.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 22, 2021, 04:32:03 pm
I am a bit of a Honda fan but would much rather go for the KLX
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Welsh on January 22, 2021, 06:46:54 pm
I have never owned a Honda, and probably never will.  8)
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: steveindar on January 23, 2021, 06:40:00 am
Some years back when the klx 300 first came out they proved to be very capable. But with such a highly strung motor they didn't last long. Having said that most riding was sand so it does stress the engines more.
I wouldn't buy one though.

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Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on January 23, 2021, 06:50:02 am
Some years back when the klx 300 first came out they proved to be very capable. But with such a highly strung motor they didn't last long. Having said that most riding was sand so it does stress the engines more.
I wouldn't buy one though.

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:-[

I used to build KLX300 engines for a team , some were stock with carb and pipe mods, others had been taken to 360 , the larger engines would get a new piston kit at the end of the season before being sold , the stock motors were only ever serviced , personally I found them to be very reliable .
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 25, 2021, 08:35:49 am
One day to go for the release
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: trevo on January 25, 2021, 08:50:50 am
Opgewonde soos n weeskind op ouerdag  :P
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 25, 2021, 11:17:03 am
Opgewonde soos n weeskind op ouerdag  :P

Dieselfde hier, maar baie onwaarskynlik dat dit n verandering in my eie lewe sal maak dog lekker om iets nuuts te sien uit die groen stal  :lol8:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Fransw on January 25, 2021, 11:58:28 am
sal dit nie great wees as ons n DR650 upgrade kry nie! Maar ek twyfel...

KLR...
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 25, 2021, 12:03:52 pm
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on January 25, 2021, 12:10:29 pm
Do you think they've forgotten? I know I'm a bit ahead of you but this is the evening of the 25th.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 25, 2021, 12:14:31 pm
Do you think they've forgotten? I know I'm a bit ahead of you but this is the evening of the 25th.
It's scheduled for the 26th US time

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: BuRP on January 25, 2021, 12:29:27 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 25, 2021, 12:57:24 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RedWolf on January 25, 2021, 12:59:43 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
I had one. I remember the rev counter were marked to 18,500rpm?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 25, 2021, 01:00:08 pm
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)

Why not mate? I think that is exactly what is coming and it is making a lot of sense.
They already have the road legal 300KLX in the States, and the Versys is the only one in the class (Ninja and Z) stuck with the 300. So the 400 is only making a lot of sense and will get the sales moving once again.
Doubt it will do much better in SA that the 300 though and not even sure KMSA will bring it to SA unless they feel it has enough (maybe more upgrades) to compete with the KTM 390 adv.
My money is on the Versys 400.
It's only shortfall is a minimalist suspension.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Spectaitor on January 25, 2021, 01:23:34 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
I had one. I remember the rev counter were marked to 18,500rpm?

A friend just bought one for R4k, needs lots of work. Rev counter is 18+
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RedWolf on January 25, 2021, 01:24:23 pm
Ek wens Kawasaki wil weer iets ordentlik launch.. en Suzuki en Honda ook.. Yamaha het darem iets in die race met die T7. Africa Twin is darem ook n lekker fiets.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Spectaitor on January 25, 2021, 01:24:36 pm
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)

Why not mate? I think that is exactly what is coming and it is making a lot of sense.
They already have the road legal 300KLX in the States, and the Versys is the only one in the class (Ninja and Z) stuck with the 300. So the 400 is only making a lot of sense and will get the sales moving once again.
Doubt it will do much better in SA that the 300 though and not even sure KMSA will bring it to SA unless they feel it has enough (maybe more upgrades) to compete with the KTM 390 adv.
My money is on the Versys 400.
It's only shortfall is a minimalist suspension.

Just imagine a KLX 400  :deal:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RedWolf on January 25, 2021, 01:25:46 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
I had one. I remember the rev counter were marked to 18,500rpm?

A friend just bought one for R4k, needs lots of work. Rev counter is 18+
Was a lekker bike, but it only started to perform from 9000rpm..
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 25, 2021, 01:26:00 pm
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)

Why not mate? I think that is exactly what is coming and it is making a lot of sense.
They already have the road legal 300KLX in the States, and the Versys is the only one in the class (Ninja and Z) stuck with the 300. So the 400 is only making a lot of sense and will get the sales moving once again.
Doubt it will do much better in SA that the 300 though and not even sure KMSA will bring it to SA unless they feel it has enough (maybe more upgrades) to compete with the KTM 390 adv.
My money is on the Versys 400.
It's only shortfall is a minimalist suspension.

Just imagine a KLX 400  :deal:

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RedWolf on January 25, 2021, 01:26:34 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
I had one. I remember the rev counter were marked to 18,500rpm?

A friend just bought one for R4k, needs lots of work. Rev counter is 18+
Please send pics. Might be my old one. Sold in 2005
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 25, 2021, 01:28:58 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
I had one. I remember the rev counter were marked to 18,500rpm?

A friend just bought one for R4k, needs lots of work. Rev counter is 18+
Was a lekker bike, but it only started to perform from 9000rpm..

There was a bike shop and I can't recall the name, think Mitaka or something
They have offered laps of test riding every Saturday morning on them grey imports and I recall we were allowed 5 laps per bike. Pok I took advantage and revved the tits of the 250 4's and even a NSR250!! Now that was the shit!!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Spectaitor on January 25, 2021, 02:51:11 pm
Well, whatever may come, they've released a 250/4 screamer...... 15500 rpm!  :thumleft:
Hope it'll come to SA, would be awesome to wring its neck on a track - after mounting some antisocial exhaust of course  :P

In the 90's SA got a whole bunch of Honda grey import CBR250's, which would also rev to around 16000rpm.
I had one. I remember the rev counter were marked to 18,500rpm?

A friend just bought one for R4k, needs lots of work. Rev counter is 18+
Please send pics. Might be my old one. Sold in 2005
Only one I have of it.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 25, 2021, 03:22:39 pm
Those little 250 4’s sounded like the F1 cars of the day. Fantastic little bikes. Just imagine the16 little valves moving at 18000rpm ! The parallel twins you get today have zero character
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 25, 2021, 03:25:23 pm
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)

Why not mate? I think that is exactly what is coming and it is making a lot of sense.
They already have the road legal 300KLX in the States, and the Versys is the only one in the class (Ninja and Z) stuck with the 300. So the 400 is only making a lot of sense and will get the sales moving once again.
Doubt it will do much better in SA that the 300 though and not even sure KMSA will bring it to SA unless they feel it has enough (maybe more upgrades) to compete with the KTM 390 adv.
My money is on the Versys 400.
It's only shortfall is a minimalist suspension.
Because to me the 300 Versys is a roadbike, yes guys have taken them off road but if we are honest it’s no KLR replacement. The 400 will be more of the same. Too many of those bikes on the market already - Vstrom, CB500X etc. Not exciting at all
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Sabre on January 25, 2021, 09:22:30 pm
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)

Why not mate? I think that is exactly what is coming and it is making a lot of sense.
They already have the road legal 300KLX in the States, and the Versys is the only one in the class (Ninja and Z) stuck with the 300. So the 400 is only making a lot of sense and will get the sales moving once again.
Doubt it will do much better in SA that the 300 though and not even sure KMSA will bring it to SA unless they feel it has enough (maybe more upgrades) to compete with the KTM 390 adv.
My money is on the Versys 400.
It's only shortfall is a minimalist suspension.
Because to me the 300 Versys is a roadbike, yes guys have taken them off road but if we are honest it’s no KLR replacement. The 400 will be more of the same. Too many of those bikes on the market already - Vstrom, CB500X etc. Not exciting at all
I hope it is not a KLR 700, because then we will have another thread, running into hundreds of pages of "790 vs T7 vs KLR"  :peepwall:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: chopperpilot on January 26, 2021, 04:04:15 am
hope it's not a Versys 400  ::)

Why not mate? I think that is exactly what is coming and it is making a lot of sense.
They already have the road legal 300KLX in the States, and the Versys is the only one in the class (Ninja and Z) stuck with the 300. So the 400 is only making a lot of sense and will get the sales moving once again.
Doubt it will do much better in SA that the 300 though and not even sure KMSA will bring it to SA unless they feel it has enough (maybe more upgrades) to compete with the KTM 390 adv.
My money is on the Versys 400.
It's only shortfall is a minimalist suspension.
Because to me the 300 Versys is a roadbike, yes guys have taken them off road but if we are honest it’s no KLR replacement. The 400 will be more of the same. Too many of those bikes on the market already - Vstrom, CB500X etc. Not exciting at all
I hope it is not a KLR 700, because then we will have another thread, running into hundreds of pages of "790 vs T7 vs KLR"  :peepwall: 
Maybe the KLR 700 will be that good, we run it against the 890RR!

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Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: subie on January 26, 2021, 08:26:15 am
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tony the Boney on January 26, 2021, 08:48:45 am
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:

A lifelong friend and I used to do long trips on our naked bikes. No fairings in those days.
No problem for him to ride from PE to Eastern Rhodesia for a rally. Took a week off work.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 26, 2021, 09:02:18 am
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:

A lifelong friend and I used to do long trips on our naked bikes. No fairings in those days.
No problem for him to ride from PE to Eastern Rhodesia for a rally. Took a week off work.


Yes I have done the same, and you are right Subie.
However, I get the advance and advantages of the new suspension technology.
Let's be honest; if we had the money we would've stayed up to date with the newest technology simply because of comfort and safety.
That is why I even get excited over a simple 400 Versys which will arguably be a better all rounder than my NC750X which has done over R40k km and some in unthinkable places  :lol8:
You use what you can afford, even if that means a Chinese scooter
I'm a lifelong biker, and a bit of a Kawasaki and Honda fan so whatever they launch will probably excite me  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Spectaitor on January 26, 2021, 10:09:24 am
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:
I don't consider the fact that I can turn a tap at home and water comes gushing out - as opposed to going down to the river and hauling a pale back home, being spoilt. It should be common place for advanced things to be normal, not a spoil.

If I had a choice between kaking in a hole or kaking in my toilet, I'll pick the toilet. I don't need a private butt wiper, just a simple toilet.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: dirtyXT on January 26, 2021, 12:49:56 pm
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:

A lifelong friend and I used to do long trips on our naked bikes. No fairings in those days.
No problem for him to ride from PE to Eastern Rhodesia for a rally. Took a week off work.


Yes I have done the same, and you are right Subie.
However, I get the advance and advantages of the new suspension technology.
Let's be honest; if we had the money we would've stayed up to date with the newest technology simply because of comfort and safety.
That is why I even get excited over a simple 400 Versys which will arguably be a better all rounder than my NC750X which has done over R40k km and some in unthinkable places  :lol8:
You use what you can afford, even if that means a Chinese scooter
I'm a lifelong biker, and a bit of a Kawasaki and Honda fan so whatever they launch will probably excite me  :imaposer:
:thumleft: exactly!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: subie on January 26, 2021, 01:29:15 pm
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:
I don't consider the fact that I can turn a tap at home and water comes gushing out - as opposed to going down to the river and hauling a pale back home, being spoilt. It should be common place for advanced things to be normal, not a spoil.

If I had a choice between kaking in a hole or kaking in my toilet, I'll pick the toilet. I don't need a private butt wiper, just a simple toilet.

You missed the point of the post. It is not about the hole vs the toilet. It is spoiled bikers arguing about toilet vs toilet .  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Groenie on January 26, 2021, 03:44:06 pm
Kawasaki USA posted 3 pics of KLRs on their IG page this morning. The Fugly, the '08 and the '13.

Now where can you live stream the launch?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Bappas on January 26, 2021, 04:07:04 pm
How spoilled we have become. Most of us toured with old Xt,TT,DT ,XL,XR  KL,DR  thumpers etc back in the day and thought they were wonderfull on long trips. I toured with a KL 250 from PE to Cape Town a few times. Once with a girl on the back even. Loved it and the marvelous machine I were riding on back then. My friend toured with his 50cc from Cape Town to East London and back.
He runs a bar in Grahamstown today and still biking
Today these same old timers are fighting over modern absolute fantastic machines which one is the most fantastic  :imaposer:
They should al get an old style thumper and hit the long road with it again. Something like Petri on his 34L  and get back to basics again maybe  :ricky: :ricky:
I don't consider the fact that I can turn a tap at home and water comes gushing out - as opposed to going down to the river and hauling a pale back home, being spoilt. It should be common place for advanced things to be normal, not a spoil.

If I had a choice between kaking in a hole or kaking in my toilet, I'll pick the toilet. I don't need a private butt wiper, just a simple toilet.

I think the point is we have entered the private but wiper stage!  But lets not say it  it might be offending someone!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Hando on January 26, 2021, 04:08:24 pm
NEW KLR 650.  fuel injected.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: dirtyXT on January 26, 2021, 04:12:49 pm
 :imaposer: more importantly fixed the shroud!!!!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Challa on January 26, 2021, 04:16:18 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 26, 2021, 04:25:46 pm
A KLR with ABS and new windshield....

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LouisXander on January 26, 2021, 04:45:57 pm
And fuel injection
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: peteb on January 26, 2021, 04:50:52 pm
Well at least they added 12 kilos in weight so that it can compete with the T7/890 in that respect.
Really Kawasaki. You build the most incredible technically engineered street bikes, and have a history of ground breaking dirt bikes, and yet you keep dishing up this?
(and yes, I know it will probably still sell like hotcakes, but so would a well priced, moderately well specced twin).
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 26, 2021, 04:57:00 pm
Nog meer tupperware om the breek en hoekom die indicators daar bo?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 26, 2021, 05:01:32 pm
Yes Kawasaki, I was waiting for this model and cant fault it. Please take my money!! 😁🤗
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 26, 2021, 05:03:51 pm
Dont like the new swing arm, el cheapo and cheap chain adjuster set up.
Wonder if the motor was upgraded to deliver some more horses?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 26, 2021, 05:05:19 pm
Any link to the specifications and more news please?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: MildlyWild on January 26, 2021, 05:22:41 pm
httphttps://www.upshiftonline.com/bikes-blog/kawasaki-announces-the-new-2022-klr650s://www.upshiftonline.com/bikes-blog/kawasaki-announces-the-new-2022-klr650

Base model $6700
If it comes into SA at a reasonable price they should sell lots of them
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 26, 2021, 05:28:15 pm
After perusing the Kawasaki site and the specs... not bad at all. :thumleft:

Will I replace my current one, not a chance, I think mine will be fine till I need a walking frame... :biggrin:

Now if I were to be in the market for an adv bike this would be my first choice... pity the Adv only comes in cammo... I love the pearl khaki.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: punisher on January 26, 2021, 05:34:45 pm
i must admit i have been a fanboy of the KLR , especially the fugly ones ................ never owned one , never riden one , but i thought the last model was already fuel injected , andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd   have they fixed the doohicky issue on this latest one ?


annnnd , if its priced right , why not ? and when i say priced rght i mean no more that R110K


OK  BURN ME
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 26, 2021, 05:41:33 pm
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 26, 2021, 05:44:26 pm
i must admit i have been a fanboy of the KLR , especially the fugly ones ................ never owned one , never riden one , but i thought the last model was already fuel injected , andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd   have they fixed the doohicky issue on this latest one ?


annnnd , if its priced right , why not ? and when i say priced rght i mean no more that R110K


OK  BURN ME

Why burn?
You are speaking your mind and that's just fine.
The KLR is just a humble thumper, even now in modern emissions regulations and KLR have never been sensitive and 'mine is bigger than yours' type.
On the price we can debate. It is usd 7k in other words in current exchange R105k SA.
It will however most probably be closer to R120k

So back I'm 2013 the last new XT660Z was sold at Centurion Yamaha for R122k and everyone said its crazy, yet it sold albeit slow.
Now 8years later the new KLR with fairly similar specs may sell for the same price as the last Z's.
To me that sounds like a bargain.
If my things work out the way I dream it, the borders will open and I will be back at work and may afford to trade my NC at the end of the season on one.
Nothing wrong with dreams  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 26, 2021, 05:48:04 pm
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.

Why would it not come to SA where there was and will be once again a huge following?
Don't say emotions because it has got FI, cat, Abs and will be just fine.
Yes maybe not Calafofornia fine.
They have ok'd the KTM690, Huskey 700 and SWM 630 and the SWM is running with a 2011 Huskey 630 motor.
I hope you are wrong and that SA will see them!!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: punisher on January 26, 2021, 05:52:50 pm
i must admit i have been a fanboy of the KLR , especially the fugly ones ................ never owned one , never riden one , but i thought the last model was already fuel injected , andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd   have they fixed the doohicky issue on this latest one ?


annnnd , if its priced right , why not ? and when i say priced rght i mean no more that R110K


OK  BURN ME

Why burn?
You are speaking your mind and that's just fine.
The KLR is just a humble thumper, even now in modern emissions regulations and KLR have never been sensitive and 'mine is bigger than yours' type.
On the price we can debate. It is usd 7k in other words in current exchange R105k SA.
It will however most probably be closer to R120k

So back I'm 2013 the last new XT660Z was sold at Centurion Yamaha for R122k and everyone said its crazy, yet it sold albeit slow.
Now 8years later the new KLR with fairly similar specs may sell for the same price as the last Z's.
To me that sounds like a bargain.
If my things work out the way I dream it, the borders will open and I will be back at work and may afford to trade my NC at the end of the season on one.
Nothing wrong with dreams  :biggrin:

i hear you , i would seriously consider one , and then maybe i would do more dirt trips , and keep my aircraft carier for tar touring ....................  but the new KLR is also heavy .............  ahhhh dreams man dreams  lol
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 26, 2021, 05:54:18 pm
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.

Why would it not come to SA where there was and will be once again a huge following?
Don't say emotions because it has got FI, cat, Abs and will be just fine.
Yes maybe not Calafofornia fine.
They have ok'd the KTM690, Huskey 700 and SWM 630 and the SWM is running with a 2011 Huskey 630 motor.
I hope you are wrong and that SA will see them!!

Beucase of emissions, i cant see this being euro 5 compliant so wont be sold here.

And for the same reason in ZA.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on January 26, 2021, 06:04:17 pm
i must admit i have been a fanboy of the KLR , especially the fugly ones ................ never owned one , never riden one , but i thought the last model was already fuel injected , andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd   have they fixed the doohicky issue on this latest one ?


annnnd , if its priced right , why not ? and when i say priced rght i mean no more that R110K


OK  BURN ME

Doohickey fixes on the last models , so from 07 onwards
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 26, 2021, 06:06:35 pm
Only Fugly’s and cockroaches will be left after the apocalypse !
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on January 26, 2021, 06:14:15 pm
Dont like the new swing arm, el cheapo and cheap chain adjuster set up.
Wonder if the motor was upgraded to deliver some more horses?
See those RAM air scoops on the side of the fairing, couple of horses for sure
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Neo_za on January 26, 2021, 06:49:50 pm
Wonder if the still use the same cam and caps layout which gets FUBAR when run low on oil.

It is a KLR.....was never going to be "wow"......but a decent upgrade with FI, ABS and better brakes.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Dux on January 26, 2021, 06:53:37 pm
Wonder if the still use the same cam and caps layout which gets FUBAR when run low on oil.

It is a KLR.....was never going to be "wow"......but a decent upgrade with FI, ABS and better brakes.

That same system is used on so many bikes , run any of them low on oil and they will all be trashed
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 26, 2021, 08:41:23 pm
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.
It is EU compliant now...
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 26, 2021, 08:44:19 pm
Wonder if the still use the same cam and caps layout which gets FUBAR when run low on oil.

It is a KLR.....was never going to be "wow"......but a decent upgrade with FI, ABS and better brakes.

That same system is used on so many bikes , run any of them low on oil and they will all be trashed
From what I read that may have been attended to as well but as Neo stated... no engine like running dry... :sip:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 26, 2021, 08:47:39 pm
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.

Why would it not come to SA where there was and will be once again a huge following?
Don't say emotions because it has got FI, cat, Abs and will be just fine.
Yes maybe not Calafofornia fine.
They have ok'd the KTM690, Huskey 700 and SWM 630 and the SWM is running with a 2011 Huskey 630 motor.
I hope you are wrong and that SA will see them!!

Beucase of emissions, i cant see this being euro 5 compliant so wont be sold here.

And for the same reason in ZA.

Did you read my message sir? The SWM is the old Huskey 630 motor which is btw a gem yet old. It has made emissions and being released and sold as we speak in SA at R135K.
It is most definitely compliant now.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Cracker on January 26, 2021, 10:25:37 pm
So .................. is this thing fast?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 26, 2021, 10:26:39 pm
So .................. is this thing fast?
probably 170 odd?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on January 27, 2021, 02:23:42 am
I agree with PeteB. A solid offering but they could have done a lot better.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Welsh on January 27, 2021, 03:50:10 am
So .................. is this thing fast?
Depends what height you drop it from? 😎
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IDR on January 27, 2021, 06:35:28 am
So I see Kawasaki made a Varaduro...
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: subie on January 27, 2021, 06:56:58 am
Love this one in that colour. The shit pieces of plastic bashplate and handguards will have to go.
Like how the exhaust is neatly tucked in. Hate the front mudgaurd. The tupperware looks more substantial.
I am finished biking but really like the look of this bike. I really liked the old Klr's but then the newer one's with all the shitty
tupperware came out and destroyed the go anywhere and reliable image of the Klr for me.
My blood will always be green and kawa will always have a place in my heart.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Battlestar on January 27, 2021, 06:59:51 am
Im in

Take my money. At a price point this is going to be an incredibly good adv touring bike. Still kept it simple enough and improved where it needed improving. Cant wait too see if it comes here. Let the ADV riding gods pull it apart but this is going to be a winner forsure.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 27, 2021, 09:32:02 am
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.

Why would it not come to SA where there was and will be once again a huge following?
Don't say emotions because it has got FI, cat, Abs and will be just fine.
Yes maybe not Calafofornia fine.
They have ok'd the KTM690, Huskey 700 and SWM 630 and the SWM is running with a 2011 Huskey 630 motor.
I hope you are wrong and that SA will see them!!

Beucase of emissions, i cant see this being euro 5 compliant so wont be sold here.

And for the same reason in ZA.

Did you read my message sir? The SWM is the old Huskey 630 motor which is btw a gem yet old. It has made emissions and being released and sold as we speak in SA at R135K.
It is most definitely compliant now.

I stand corrected.

Still not listed on uk kwak site.

Kwak ZA could not sell the last of KLRs at 69k. Took a while to shift the last stock. Seeing the demand here that is surprising at double the price. Honda za had to discount the AT750 in 2003 to get rid of em.

135k , have kwak taken lessons from Yamaha?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: dieseldawie on January 27, 2021, 10:10:45 am
Love this one in that colour. The shit pieces of plastic bashplate and handguards will have to go.
Like how the exhaust is neatly tucked in. Hate the front mudgaurd. The tupperware looks more substantial.
I am finished biking but really like the look of this bike. I really liked the old Klr's but then the newer one's with all the shitty
tupperware came out and destroyed the go anywhere and reliable image of the Klr for me.
My blood will always be green and kawa will always have a place in my heart.

Looks to me like most of the Farkles we can still buy locally for the Gen 2 , will also fit this with little or no mods so plenty of cheap bash plates Crash Bars etc all still available. Also will still be able to bolt a Milk crate on the back to improve appearance.

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: dieseldawie on January 27, 2021, 10:14:39 am
i doubt it iwll be sold in ZA, and def not in europe or the uk.

Proably oz and the 49 states.

Why would it not come to SA where there was and will be once again a huge following?
Don't say emotions because it has got FI, cat, Abs and will be just fine.
Yes maybe not Calafofornia fine.
They have ok'd the KTM690, Huskey 700 and SWM 630 and the SWM is running with a 2011 Huskey 630 motor.
I hope you are wrong and that SA will see them!!

Beucase of emissions, i cant see this being euro 5 compliant so wont be sold here.

And for the same reason in ZA.

Did you read my message sir? The SWM is the old Huskey 630 motor which is btw a gem yet old. It has made emissions and being released and sold as we speak in SA at R135K.
It is most definitely compliant now.

I stand corrected.

Still not listed on uk kwak site.

Kwak ZA could not sell the last of KLRs at 69k. Took a while to shift the last stock. Seeing the demand here that is surprising at double the price. Honda za had to discount the AT750 in 2003 to get rid of em.

135k , have kwak taken lessons from Yamaha?

So would sell my 2017 AT including all extra's and might have to add some money to buy a new KLR?? mmmm
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on January 27, 2021, 10:25:06 am
After perusing the Kawasaki site and the specs... not bad at all. :thumleft:

Will I replace my current one, not a chance, I think mine will be fine till I need a walking frame... :biggrin:

Now if I were to be in the market for an adv bike this would be my first choice... pity the Adv only comes in cammo... I love the pearl khaki.
Dan join jy maar die club Rob. My walking frame pas mooi op my sidecar!! ;) :thumleft:

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: the_BOBNOB on January 27, 2021, 11:41:43 am
So what other bikes did they launch?

Or did I miss that post?
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: LeonDude on January 27, 2021, 11:43:36 am
After perusing the Kawasaki site and the specs... not bad at all. :thumleft:

Will I replace my current one, not a chance, I think mine will be fine till I need a walking frame... :biggrin:

Now if I were to be in the market for an adv bike this would be my first choice... pity the Adv only comes in cammo... I love the pearl khaki.
Dan join jy maar die club Rob. My walking frame pas mooi op my sidecar!! ;) :thumleft:
Daai hond lyk min impressed om op n KLR gesien te word. Het seker die eienaar gebyt na die foto.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on January 27, 2021, 11:48:12 am
So what other bikes did they launch?

Or did I miss that post?

The other models were released late November already. One of them the roadgoing KLX300 and some other road bikes
Kawasaki has got quite an exciting lineup of models compared to Suz which is somehow sad. I used to ride Suz for a number of years and I feel they have fallen behind.

Let's face it, the have that gem of a 650 v twin motor which serves in various models yet they missing an opportunity to make a proper midrange DS bike like Yamaha pulled off with the T7.
The DR650 is like the XR650L aircooled and will have to be redesigned completely to pull something off like Kawasaki just did.
They will take notice
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Edgar on January 27, 2021, 11:53:58 am
After perusing the Kawasaki site and the specs... not bad at all. :thumleft:

Will I replace my current one, not a chance, I think mine will be fine till I need a walking frame... :biggrin:

Now if I were to be in the market for an adv bike this would be my first choice... pity the Adv only comes in cammo... I love the pearl khaki.
Dan join jy maar die club Rob. My walking frame pas mooi op my sidecar!! ;) :thumleft:

A guide dog to go with the zimmer frame  :imaposer:

2 barks means turn left, 1 bark go right and 3 barks stop.......
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on January 27, 2021, 05:22:39 pm
After perusing the Kawasaki site and the specs... not bad at all. :thumleft:

Will I replace my current one, not a chance, I think mine will be fine till I need a walking frame... :biggrin:

Now if I were to be in the market for an adv bike this would be my first choice... pity the Adv only comes in cammo... I love the pearl khaki.
Dan join jy maar die club Rob. My walking frame pas mooi op my sidecar!! ;) :thumleft:
:thumleft: Marmite sal dit love!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on February 19, 2021, 10:07:17 am
I've been a bit asleep here. I saw this being assembled in the local Whitsundays dealer this morning and the new owner was driving away with it early afternoon. In a land where just about everything comes with a street legal kit this one doesn't and you can't register it for the road. The reason is that you can have this as a completely uncorked little dirtbike and the story is that the power delivery is pretty good. Pretty cheap too at $7000 (around R70,000) And six gears in the box! Put that in your hat and smoke it Suzuki.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 19, 2021, 10:13:32 am
Awesome machine!!
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 10:44:31 am
I've been a bit asleep here. I saw this being assembled in the local Whitsundays dealer this morning and the new owner was driving away with it early afternoon. In a land where just about everything comes with a street legal kit this one doesn't and you can't register it for the road. The reason is that you can have this as a completely uncorked little dirtbike and the story is that the power delivery is pretty good. Pretty cheap too at $7000 (around R70,000) And six gears in the box! Put that in your hat and smoke it Suzuki.
But you get the KLX300R and then the S which is street legal. Both 300’s
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 19, 2021, 01:36:52 pm
I've been a bit asleep here. I saw this being assembled in the local Whitsundays dealer this morning and the new owner was driving away with it early afternoon. In a land where just about everything comes with a street legal kit this one doesn't and you can't register it for the road. The reason is that you can have this as a completely uncorked little dirtbike and the story is that the power delivery is pretty good. Pretty cheap too at $7000 (around R70,000) And six gears in the box! Put that in your hat and smoke it Suzuki.
But you get the KLX300R and then the S which is street legal. Both 300’s

In the States yes but the street legal one differs from the enduro.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 01:39:25 pm
I've been a bit asleep here. I saw this being assembled in the local Whitsundays dealer this morning and the new owner was driving away with it early afternoon. In a land where just about everything comes with a street legal kit this one doesn't and you can't register it for the road. The reason is that you can have this as a completely uncorked little dirtbike and the story is that the power delivery is pretty good. Pretty cheap too at $7000 (around R70,000) And six gears in the box! Put that in your hat and smoke it Suzuki.
But you get the KLX300R and then the S which is street legal. Both 300’s

In the States yes but the street legal one differs from the enduro.
Yes I know but not sure if Ian meant you cannot get a street legal KLX300 which off course you can with the S, see some already available in the US

Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on February 19, 2021, 02:09:28 pm
The S is a very different animal in terms of engine restrictions and frame, I think the frame and running gear  will be more like the 250S
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 02:15:49 pm
They are pretty close

ENGINE
Enduro: 4-stroke single, DOHC, liquid-cooled
D/S: 4-stroke single, DOHC, liquid-cooled

DISPLACEMENT
Enduro: 292cc
D/S: 292cc

BORE X STROKE
Enduro: 78.0 x 61.2mm
D/S: 78.0 x 61.2mm

COMPRESSION RATIO
Enduro: 11.0:1
D/S: 11.1:1

FUEL SYSTEM
Enduro: DFI® with 34mm Keihin throttle body
D/S: DFI® with 34mm Keihin throttle body

IGNITION
Enduro: TCBI Electronic Advance
D/S: CDI

TRANSMISSION
Enduro: 6-speed, return shift with wet multi-disc manual clutch
D/S: 6-speed, return shift with wet multi-disc manual clutch

FINAL DRIVE
Enduro: Chain
D/S: Chain

FRONT SUSPENSION / WHEEL TRAVEL
Enduro: 43mm inverted telescopic fork with adjustable compression damping /11.2 in
D/S: 43mm inverted cartridge fork with adjustable compression damping /10.0 in

REAR SUSPENSION / WHEEL TRAVEL
Enduro: Uni-Trak® gas charged shock with piggyback reservoir with adjustable compression, rebound damping and spring preload/11.2 in

D/S: Uni-Trak® gas charged shock with piggyback reservoir with adjustable rebound damping and spring preload/9.1 in

FRONT TIRE
Enduro: 80/100-21
D/S: 3.0 x 21

REAR TIRE
Enduro: 100/100-18
D/S: 4.6 x 18

FRONT BRAKES
Enduro: Single 270mm petal disc with a dual-piston caliper
D/S: Single 250mm petal disc with a dual-piston caliper

REAR BRAKES
Enduro: Single 240mm petal disc with single-piston caliper
D/S: Single 240mm petal disc with single-piston caliper

FRAME TYPE
Enduro: High-tensile steel, box-section perimeter
D/S: High-tensile steel, box-section perimeter

RAKE/TRAIL
Enduro: 26.9°/4.3 in
D/S: 26.7°/4.2 in

OVERALL LENGTH
Enduro: 83.5 in
D/S: 86.6 in

OVERALL WIDTH
Enduro: 32.5 in
D/S: 32.3 in

OVERALL HEIGHT
Enduro: 49.2 in
D/S: 47.4 in

GROUND CLEARANCE
Enduro: 12.0 in / 11.8 CA model
D/S: 9.8 in

SEAT HEIGHT
Enduro: 36.4 in
D/S: 35.2 in

CURB WEIGHT
Enduro: 282.2 lb / 286.6 lb. CA model**
D/S: 302.1 lb**

FUEL CAPACITY
Enduro: 2.1 gal
D/S: 2.0 gal

WHEELBASE
Enduro: 56.5 in
D/S: 56.7 in

COLOR CHOICES
Enduro: Lime Green
D/S: Lime Green, Fragment Camo Gray

WARRANTY
Enduro: 6 Months
D/S: 12 Months

MSRP
Enduro: $5499.
D/S: $5599.

Biggest difference ignition curve on the R plus longer travel suspension
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on February 20, 2021, 02:01:25 am
Quite right Sidetrack. Doesn't seem to be too much in it at all on the spec sheet. However when I walked in the shop the 300R really did look like the KDX200 of old with it's higher sump and more forward seating position, so much so that at first glance I read KDX on the side rather than KLX,  whereas our KLX's really look like commuter trailies  and I think the 300S (even though I haven't seen one) will be similar. 
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: IanTheTooth on February 21, 2021, 09:47:06 am
They tell me we are not going to get the KLX300S because it wasn't designed to be ADR (Australian Design Rules) compliant and the importers don't think the market for it is worth pursuing even though they have sold a pile of KLX250's here over the years.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on February 21, 2021, 12:39:42 pm
They tell me we are not going to get the KLX300S because it wasn't designed to be ADR (Australian Design Rules) compliant and the importers don't think the market for it is worth pursuing even though they have sold a pile of KLX250's here over the years.
That is quite surprising
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 21, 2021, 10:03:53 pm
Well I have set my mind on the 300L for when it becomes available in SA for my future adventures since I am forced to go light with my back that gives me some hassle. However; if the road going KLX300 was coming to SA that would have been my choice by far. It is a better bike, more power and much better suspension.
I'll see if there is a possibility in the states to bring back some better suspension back to SA on my return trip December, but most important a bigger fuel tank.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: RobC on February 21, 2021, 10:33:03 pm
They tell me we are not going to get the KLX300S because it wasn't designed to be ADR (Australian Design Rules) compliant and the importers don't think the market for it is worth pursuing even though they have sold a pile of KLX250's here over the years.
That is quite surprising
Not really... the Australian bureaucracy has gone woke on a lot of things of late. :sip:
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Xpat on February 21, 2021, 10:56:26 pm
Well I have set my mind on the 300L for when it becomes available in SA for my future adventures since I am forced to go light with my back that gives me some hassle. However; if the road going KLX300 was coming to SA that would have been my choice by far. It is a better bike, more power and much better suspension.
I'll see if there is a possibility in the states to bring back some better suspension back to SA on my return trip December, but most important a bigger fuel tank.

Just out of interest, what is the logic behind lighter bike being better for your back? If you planning to ride technical, then yes. But you havent been too keen on tech riding before.

If you want to ride mostly tar and dirt roads, especially corrugated ones, then it is exactly the other way round - heavier bike with the righf wheels and suspension (nc is none of that) is way better in insulating you from the surface. There is reason why rolls royce are heavier than they need to be...
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 21, 2021, 11:24:34 pm
Well I have set my mind on the 300L for when it becomes available in SA for my future adventures since I am forced to go light with my back that gives me some hassle. However; if the road going KLX300 was coming to SA that would have been my choice by far. It is a better bike, more power and much better suspension.
I'll see if there is a possibility in the states to bring back some better suspension back to SA on my return trip December, but most important a bigger fuel tank.

Just out of interest, what is the logic behind lighter bike being better for your back? If you planning to ride technical, then yes. But you havent been too keen on tech riding before.

If you want to ride mostly tar and dirt roads, especially corrugated ones, then it is exactly the other way round - heavier bike with the righf wheels and suspension (nc is none of that) is way better in insulating you from the surface. There is reason why rolls royce are heavier than they need to be...

Yes Martin you are right, I have not done any hardcore adventures like you did but I would like to do that. Your RR's have inspired like some others and I am unfortunately not a great offroad rider nor my physical state but I want to give it a try.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Xpat on February 21, 2021, 11:30:02 pm
Well I have set my mind on the 300L for when it becomes available in SA for my future adventures since I am forced to go light with my back that gives me some hassle. However; if the road going KLX300 was coming to SA that would have been my choice by far. It is a better bike, more power and much better suspension.
I'll see if there is a possibility in the states to bring back some better suspension back to SA on my return trip December, but most important a bigger fuel tank.

Just out of interest, what is the logic behind lighter bike being better for your back? If you planning to ride technical, then yes. But you havent been too keen on tech riding before.

If you want to ride mostly tar and dirt roads, especially corrugated ones, then it is exactly the other way round - heavier bike with the righf wheels and suspension (nc is none of that) is way better in insulating you from the surface. There is reason why rolls royce are heavier than they need to be...

Yes Martin you are right, I have not done any hardcore adventures like you did but I would like to do that. Your RR's have inspired like some others and I am unfortunately not a great offroad rider nor my physical state but I want to give it a try.

Hmmm, tech riding will not do your back much good at all. But if you want to try that than yes, smaller and lighter bike is the way to go.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on February 22, 2021, 07:51:17 am
I think the CRF300L with it's long travel soft suspension will make a great commuter as well. No issues with corrugations or potholes, much easier ride than a NC700 for instance. Maybe not cross country but certainly for normal riding.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: sidetrack on February 22, 2021, 08:00:35 am
Well I have set my mind on the 300L for when it becomes available in SA for my future adventures since I am forced to go light with my back that gives me some hassle. However; if the road going KLX300 was coming to SA that would have been my choice by far. It is a better bike, more power and much better suspension.
I'll see if there is a possibility in the states to bring back some better suspension back to SA on my return trip December, but most important a bigger fuel tank.
Tom the KLX vs CRF will be close and I agree the KLX has better suspension but there are a number of things in the CRF's favour :

Overseas it's cheaper than the KLX
Slipper clutch
New bodywork and instruments (looks better than KLX imho)
It's a Honda, better support in SA
The power differecne will be very little and I doubt you will notice it
The Honda will have more aftermarket stuff available no doubt.

KLX pro's

Lighter
Better suspension
No ABS, not sure what CRF version we will get here
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 22, 2021, 08:22:36 am
Unless you also want to do offroad races with the bike, you need no better suspension than the CRF300L offers.

I rode it, and for my weight, which is 80kgs, I would not change a thing on that bike's suspension.
Title: Re: Kawasaki to Reveal Six New Models on Nov. 23
Post by: Tom van Brits on February 22, 2021, 08:34:35 am
Unless you also want to do offroad races with the bike, you need no better suspension than the CRF300L offers.

I rode it, and for my weight, which is 80kgs, I would not change a thing on that bike's suspension.

I am around 95kg but will drop once I start working to probably 88/90kg mark.
I will however mount my Enduristan Blizzard bags with tubes and tools and chlothing, water and food for like 5 day trip so the OEM suspension will have to be upgraded in my case Dan.
I did see very reasonable upgrade shock in the States for the 250l (usd 500) and progresive fork springs under usd 150. Main concern would be fuel range and I hope IMS or someone will make bigger tank