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Title: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: DarkMan on November 01, 2020, 06:43:15 pm: So about 3 weeks ago my 2011 BMW F800GS was stolen out of my garage ...

What a call to answer half past three in the morning while in Lesotho, hearing that some white dude broke open the garage and drove of with my bike, and it took them less than a minute.

This was my 3rd bike and the one I kept for the longest.

Bought it in 2011 for R 110 000 and put 122 500 km on her without any major issues, used 5 622 liters (R 76 682) of 95 octane with an average consumption of 4.88 l/km. Used no oil in-between services and I spent about R 60 000 on services, tyres, chains etc.

I used ENGEN fuel the most, followed by SHELL, BP, TOTAL and SASOL.

The question now is what to replace it with? Maybe a 2019 BMW F850 GS (what my head say) or what my eye caught while browsing the forum .... http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=250331.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=250331.0)
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 01, 2020, 06:45:23 pm: The T7 is here, virtually.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: LouisXander on November 01, 2020, 07:00:05 pm: The amount of plastics on the 850 is horrendous.

Maybe time for a ktm yes.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Antonie on November 01, 2020, 08:40:19 pm: Quote from: DarkMan on November 01, 2020, 06:43:15 pm
So about 3 weeks ago my 2011 BMW F800GS was stolen out of my garage ...

What a call to answer half past three in the morning while in Lesotho, hearing that some white dude broke open the garage and drove of with my bike, and it took them less than a minute.

This was my 3rd bike and the one I kept for the longest.

Bought it in 2011 for R 110 000 and put 122 500 km on her without any major issues, used 5 622 liters (R 76 682) of 95 octane with an average consumption of 4.88 l/km. Used no oil in-between services and I spent about R 60 000 on services, tyres, chains etc.

I used ENGEN fuel the most, followed by SHELL, BP, TOTAL and SASOL.

The question now is what to replace it with? Maybe a 2019 BMW F850 GS (what my head say) or what my eye caught while browsing the forum .... http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=250331.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=250331.0)
Holy shit, that fuel consumption does not sound right?

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Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: windswept on November 01, 2020, 11:18:36 pm: l/100km
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: chopperpilot on November 02, 2020, 05:45:44 am: Quote from: LouisXander on November 01, 2020, 07:00:05 pm
The amount of plastics on the 850 is horrendous.

Maybe time for a ktm yes.
Het jy koors Louis?

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Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: DarkMan on November 02, 2020, 07:59:49 am: haha, the fuel consumption need to be 4.88 l/ 100km...
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: LouisXander on November 02, 2020, 09:03:48 am: Quote from: chopperpilot on November 02, 2020, 05:45:44 am
Quote from: LouisXander on November 01, 2020, 07:00:05 pm
The amount of plastics on the 850 is horrendous.

Maybe time for a ktm yes.
Het jy koors Louis?

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Nope Henk daai 850 doen dit no7 regtig ni v my ni.

@chopperpilot
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Grunder on November 02, 2020, 09:06:28 am: Quote from: LouisXander on November 02, 2020, 09:03:48 am
Quote from: chopperpilot on November 02, 2020, 05:45:44 am
Quote from: LouisXander on November 01, 2020, 07:00:05 pm
The amount of plastics on the 850 is horrendous.

Maybe time for a ktm yes.
Het jy koors Louis?

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Nope Henk daai 850 doen dit no7 regtig ni v my ni.

@chopperpilot

Die 850gsa groei nogal op my
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: LouisXander on November 02, 2020, 09:10:22 am: Nah, ek het hulle hoeka da in Bloem gesien. n Bike wat se gat hang lyk kokaai, en daai 850s lyk of hulle drop suspension het agter
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: LouisXander on November 02, 2020, 09:10:43 am: En daai 850 is huge
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: BLK on November 02, 2020, 09:14:39 am: I owned a 850 gs for 1 x year.I actually enjoyed it very much.Never gave me a days hassle.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Grunder on November 02, 2020, 10:54:12 am: Quote from: LouisXander on November 02, 2020, 09:10:43 am
En daai 850 is huge

ja ne, lyk soos 1200.

Maar is mooi though
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: masehare on November 02, 2020, 11:16:44 am: Daar is vanoggend 'n 650 Dakar gesteel in die Strand. Die sindikate operate in area's vir 'n tyd, so ketting maar jou bike aan jou vloer vas.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: chopperpilot on November 02, 2020, 12:49:07 pm: Quote from: LouisXander on November 02, 2020, 09:03:48 am
Quote from: chopperpilot on November 02, 2020, 05:45:44 am
Quote from: LouisXander on November 01, 2020, 07:00:05 pm
The amount of plastics on the 850 is horrendous.

Maybe time for a ktm yes.
Het jy koors Louis?

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Nope Henk daai 850 doen dit no7 regtig ni v my ni.

@chopperpilot
Trek net jou been...jy weet mos.

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Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: JIMMI on November 02, 2020, 01:38:08 pm: Just got a new BMW 850GS.
Probably the most effortless bike i have ever ridden.
I had a 800gs in the past and could never really gel with it, but the new one is such a game changer.
I am not brand loyal. I buy the bike that suits me and puts a smile on my face, regardless if its Euro, Jap or Crap.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: basilpeetz on November 03, 2020, 11:10:19 am: I used to have a 800GS and now a Triumph Tiger 800XCX. Prefer the Tiger by some distance and if I could afford it would certainly consider the new 900 Rally Pro.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 03, 2020, 11:22:43 am: I moved from a 800gs to a drz400, and then a 690 followed by a 701.
I am now starting to think the 701 is too heavy at times, thinking towards a 501 :P
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on November 03, 2020, 01:10:59 pm: Quote from: masehare on Yesterday at 11:16:44 am (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=252807.msg4541930#msg4541930)>Daar is vanoggend 'n 650 Dakar gesteel in die Strand. Die sindikate operate in area's vir 'n tyd, so ketting maar jou bike aan jou vloer vas.
Sorry for your loss.
I agree, locked to the floor with a bolted-down floor anchor could really help - if you need a floor anchor + bolts, we stock.
Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Dunnes on November 03, 2020, 02:47:26 pm: Quote from: zebra - Flying Brick on November 03, 2020, 01:10:59 pm

Quote from: masehare on Yesterday at 11:16:44 am (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=252807.msg4541930#msg4541930)>Daar is vanoggend 'n 650 Dakar gesteel in die Strand. Die sindikate operate in area's vir 'n tyd, so ketting maar jou bike aan jou vloer vas.
Sorry for your loss.
I agree, locked to the floor with a bolted-down floor anchor could really help - if you need a floor anchor + bolts, we stock.
Cheers
Chris

Sorry for the hijack. And I am truly sorry about the bike.

Chris, I see those rawl bolts are removed with an Allen key. Is the thinking that the thief won't have an Allen key with him?
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Ventana on November 03, 2020, 02:49:42 pm: Really sorry for your loss >:(. I had the same experience in January when they stole my 800GSA out of my garage at 1am......I absolutely loved that bike and I still rate the mid-capacity BM's as some of the best bikes BMW produces.....but after 10 years of BMW's I bought a 2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sport.....oh boy..... :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on November 03, 2020, 02:57:32 pm: Quote from: Dunnes on Today at 02:47:26 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=252807.msg4542592#msg4542592)

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Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on November 03, 2020, 03:00:49 pm: Quote from: Dunnes on Today at 02:47:26 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=252807.msg4542592#msg4542592)Chris, I see those rawl bolts are removed with an Allen key. Is the thinking that the thief won't have an Allen key with him?

Good question: a good few customers quick-epoxy the anchors into the garage floor, and then FILL the heads of the Allen head bolts with left-over epoxy....
Makes it very difficult - not impossible - to remove the bolts....

and then the bike still has a locked chain around say the rear wheel, or subframe, making it harder to wheel the bike away, etc.
Hope that helps
Chris
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 03, 2020, 03:02:01 pm: Quote from: Dunnes on November 03, 2020, 02:47:26 pm
Quote from: zebra - Flying Brick on November 03, 2020, 01:10:59 pm

Quote from: masehare on Yesterday at 11:16:44 am (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=252807.msg4541930#msg4541930)>Daar is vanoggend 'n 650 Dakar gesteel in die Strand. Die sindikate operate in area's vir 'n tyd, so ketting maar jou bike aan jou vloer vas.
Sorry for your loss.
I agree, locked to the floor with a bolted-down floor anchor could really help - if you need a floor anchor + bolts, we stock.
Cheers
Chris

Sorry for the hijack. And I am truly sorry about the bike.

Chris, I see those rawl bolts are removed with an Allen key. Is the thinking that the thief won't have an Allen key with him?

Even if a person (maybe with dry and damaged hair?) have a allen key, to remove bolts and to move a whole bike around chained to a anchor is way to cumbersome.
You can even fill up the allen key socket with pratley steel, then you need to drill it out.
I like it, will go look at it.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 03, 2020, 03:03:18 pm: Snap Chris!
Keep my free Coke ready.
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Ventana on November 03, 2020, 03:15:31 pm: An alternative to Chris' anchor point is the one I'm using. (Isuppose there are a number of alternatives) If you look at the second picture the silver locking nuts get tightened until the spanner snaps off the top part (so that it looks like picture 1). The only way to remove it is with an angle grinder......
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: TrailBlazer on November 03, 2020, 04:13:55 pm: All good and well to have one of these anchors, but what would be best to use..., a heavy chain or a thick steel cable?

I guess with a battery angle grinder either one would k@k in a short while
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Ventana on November 03, 2020, 04:30:06 pm: Quote from: TrailBlazer on November 03, 2020, 04:13:55 pm
All good and well to have one of these anchors, but what would be best to use..., a heavy chain or a thick steel cable?

I guess with a battery angle grinder either one would k@k in a short while

This video from Ryan at Fortnine might help....
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on November 04, 2020, 11:41:57 am: Quote from: Ventana on Yesterday at 03:15:31 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=252807.msg4542626#msg4542626)>An alternative to Chris' anchor point is the one I'm using. (I suppose there are a number of alternatives) If you look at the second picture the silver locking nuts get tightened until the spanner snaps off the top part (so that it looks like picture 1). The only way to remove it is with an angle grinder......
In addition to the ground anchor we stock and sell, we have just agreed to order in a quantity of the one with the 'safety' bolts shown below, will try and post here when we have stock in, next week sometime.
Thanks Ventana for the suggestion, we LOVE options!
Cheers
Chris & Team
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Roxtar on November 06, 2020, 10:59:50 am: A friend had F800GS also stolen out the garage.... I told him they did him a favour... :lol8: He bought a 30yr Anniv KTM 990.... still thanks the thieves for getting him onto a real bike :biggrin: :peepwall:
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Grunder on November 06, 2020, 11:07:13 am: Quote from: Roxtar on November 06, 2020, 10:59:50 am
A friend had F800GS also stolen out the garage.... I told him they did him a favour... :lol8: He bought a 30yr Anniv KTM 990.... still thanks the thieves for getting him onto a real bike :biggrin: :peepwall:

Think the conversation is getting sidetracked here O0
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Buff on November 06, 2020, 11:41:56 am: Aha.... Anchor points on your garage floor.... more commonly referred to as Toe Breaking Devices :o I need to find another solution, I only have 9 left ::)
Title: Re: My 800GS was stolen ...
Post by: Dunnes on November 13, 2020, 09:11:46 am: If I would do this, I would cut out a 5cm block from the concrete floor to have the "locking plate thing" at floor level. There will be some dust collection inside, but its better than this block in the middle of your garage floor.