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Title: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Vulcan on November 23, 2020, 12:28:56 pm
https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-11-22-elderly-couples-motorbike-jaunt-takes-terrible-turn-on-mountain-pass/

Authorities need to start clamping down on all these Rossi wannabees so us normal slow riding folk can enjoy the pass again  :ricky:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Eisbein on November 23, 2020, 01:22:33 pm
Do we know if it is the ou Oom or the other bike that caused it ?

(I have seen a good couple of crotch rocket Rossi wannabees come around a bend on the wrong side of the road before, but it isn't clear from the article if this was the case here)

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 23, 2020, 01:33:25 pm
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Vulcan on November 23, 2020, 01:43:04 pm
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

True. I have even seen an Uber Eats rider texting with his left hand while riding his motorcycle.  It seems Covid has affected certain people's logic as well.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 23, 2020, 01:45:56 pm
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

True. I have even seen an Uber Eats rider texting with his left hand while riding his motorcycle.  It seems Covid has affected certain people's logic as well.

Ons moet al die ouens Brackenfell toe stuur, sodat hulle reg gedonr word..... :pot:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wooly Bugger on November 23, 2020, 01:52:15 pm
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: steveindar on November 23, 2020, 02:00:57 pm
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

True. I have even seen an Uber Eats rider texting with his left hand while riding his motorcycle.  It seems Covid has affected certain people's logic as well.

What, you mean you aren't able to?  ???
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Pietertjie on November 23, 2020, 06:43:18 pm
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 23, 2020, 09:14:55 pm
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

If guys want to race there is the track , BUT , from past experience a lot of these wannabeís donít like the track because they get blown off by much older or smaller bikes , at the end of the day it is an ego thing
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Crossed-up on November 24, 2020, 06:13:43 am
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

If guys want to race there is the track , BUT , from past experience a lot of these wannabeís donít like the track because they get blown off by much older or smaller bikes , at the end of the day it is an ego thing

True, but also the track costs money, you must be sober and you've got to obey other peoples' rules. :P
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 24, 2020, 06:31:25 am
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

If guys want to race there is the track , BUT , from past experience a lot of these wannabeís donít like the track because they get blown off by much older or smaller bikes , at the end of the day it is an ego thing

True, but also the track costs money, you must be sober and you've got to obey other peoples' rules. :P

So true , I donít know about other guys but once I started going to the track I became a more cautious rider on the road 
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Ri on November 24, 2020, 06:49:25 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Lame joke ::)
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wayne on November 24, 2020, 09:28:16 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Lame joke ::)
Forum seems to be full of lame jokes at the moment

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Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Pietertjie on November 24, 2020, 09:33:01 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Lame joke ::)

Not knowing any background for a joke like this, I assume it is a thing between the members, it is fucked up to make jokes like this in my opinion.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Roxtar on November 24, 2020, 10:25:48 am
Eish ja, but not always the Rossi wannabees causing havoc on these public scenic roads, also a problem is the normal slow riding folk(especially the tourist variety), who gets so engaged in the scenery that they start driving on the wrong side of the road, stop dead centre in a lane to take a picture, or even kap a reverse gear to get back to a park area, or sommer klap a u turn in a bend.
Then, also not only the superbikes going bosbevok, plenty Hamilton wannabees also around in the super cars.

But yes, true that, if you want to race, 2 wheels or 4, there is a time and a place.

If guys want to race there is the track , BUT , from past experience a lot of these wannabeís donít like the track because they get blown off by much older or smaller bikes , at the end of the day it is an ego thing

I take it you have dished out some pain here Dux.... :thumleft: :lol8:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Roxtar on November 24, 2020, 10:30:01 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Lame joke ::)

Not knowing any background for a joke like this, I assume it is a thing between the members, it is fucked up to make jokes like this in my opinion.

Rich comment based on lots of assumptions then it seems... ::)
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Pietertjie on November 24, 2020, 10:38:57 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Lame joke ::)

Not knowing any background for a joke like this, I assume it is a thing between the members, it is fucked up to make jokes like this in my opinion.

Rich comment based on lots of assumptions then it seems... ::)

You are entitled your opinion, something I really could not care less about.

Do you think it is OK to joke in a thread about a serious accident creating the impression a WD was involved, when new, and maybe old members might not understand the joke, in a thread which is not really funny to begin with?

I stated my opinion and could also not care less if you found it rich or not.

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: chicco on November 24, 2020, 11:17:43 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

 :lamer: jy soek vir k@k...
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: BuRP on November 24, 2020, 11:24:19 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Pieterkie, if you'd follow other threads you'd know that is just a joke.
A nice one, hardly lame, and dished to him who habitually does same, Micky taking springs to mind here.
Patience will answer your rather elaborate question mark though, watch this space rather than post eloquent conclusions about something you clearly and completely missed  ;)
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 25, 2020, 04:59:47 pm
It wasn't me....... :ricky: :ricky:

Just a joke, no harm done. :thumleft:

I see the other ride jumped from his bike, what is Vinhales doing in Franschhoek?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 25, 2020, 05:42:56 pm
Saw photographs this afternoon , the bikes are trashed , from what I could see it looked like a ZX10 and a Triumph Speed Triple or 1050 Tiger , but couldnít be sure on either .
Does anyone have any news on the couple ?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Az on November 25, 2020, 07:18:23 pm
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20H51 - 23 Nov 2020
The guys that fell, Terence and Pauline have both had ops already. They operated on his leg yesterday and today they had to drain his colon that had ruptured. Pauline has many challenges herself. He recently turned 70 so his challenge will be real hard compared to someone who is a youngster. They ride for our club Odysseus and to be honest, we are all very rattled by what happened. All we can do is pray for God's hand over their lives and that they can have a speedy recovery. Both are still in ICU.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 26, 2020, 06:43:49 am
Glad to hear they are ok .
Bikes are Speed Triple and Fireblade , both FUBAR
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: @offroad on November 26, 2020, 08:12:05 am
Sjoe that looks quite rof - glad they are okay
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 26, 2020, 08:17:12 am
Got some feedback from friends of the couple , by all accounts and that of witnesses it was the fault of the Fireblade rider , went wide through a corner , ironically he is the one that walked away from this .
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Vulcan on November 26, 2020, 09:22:49 am
The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: teebag on November 26, 2020, 11:39:24 am
 :'( how, that is not even on the pass  ???
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Eisbein on November 26, 2020, 12:27:56 pm
:'( how, that is not even on the pass  ???

Looks like next to (or close to) Le Petit Ferme

There's a bit of a twist in the road (and a bump if I'm not mistaken)
If you come down from the twisties and want to open up on that piece of 'straight' road after the hairpin you can pick up speed very rapidly
If you are not awake or paying attention that little twist can have you on the other side of the road in no time.

Add a bit of target fixation and way too much speed and you can get in trouble quick
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 26, 2020, 01:06:13 pm
Shoo.. very sad, I really hope the injured make a full recovery and are able to enjoy riding again.



Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: teebag on November 26, 2020, 01:16:03 pm
i guess, i donít often do the pass from that direction


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Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: manxkipper on November 26, 2020, 01:41:31 pm
The blade tyre has a big chicken strip. It would be interesting to see what the insurers think of that bald tyre when they assess the roadworthiness of the blade.
This type of very sad situation is the reason I donít ride on Sundays any longer. One close encounter with morons is one too many for me.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 26, 2020, 08:51:10 pm
:'( how, that is not even on the pass  ???

Looks like next to (or close to) Le Petit Ferme

There's a bit of a twist in the road (and a bump if I'm not mistaken)
If you come down from the twisties and want to open up on that piece of 'straight' road after the hairpin you can pick up speed very rapidly
If you are not awake or paying attention that little twist can have you on the other side of the road in no time.

Add a bit of target fixation and way too much speed and you can get in trouble quick

100% correct, and though the "dip" in the road has been repaired, it will still upset a bike when goingnover it fast, and steer you wide. And the bump/dip is onthe very first left bend after the little straight from the U-bend.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 26, 2020, 08:52:12 pm
The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy.

Dry weather so the less tread means more rubber, like a slick.

I know the insurance would not see it this way, but it is true.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Flowers on November 26, 2020, 09:28:05 pm
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

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Lame joke ::)

Not knowing any background for a joke like this, I assume it is a thing between the members, it is fucked up to make jokes like this in my opinion.

Rich comment based on lots of assumptions then it seems... ::)

You are entitled your opinion, something I really could not care less about.

Do you think it is OK to joke in a thread about a serious accident creating the impression a WD was involved, when new, and maybe old members might not understand the joke, in a thread which is not really funny to begin with?

I stated my opinion and could also not care less if you found it rich or not.
Pietertjie must be a Harley rider a bit out of place here


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Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 27, 2020, 06:52:34 am
The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy.

Dry weather so the less tread means more rubber, like a slick.

I know the insurance would not see it this way, but it is true.

I am horrified at how many unroadworthy bikes there are out there , that CBRís tyre should have been replaced long ago  , then I wonder if something as visible as the tyre was ignored then what about other things , there I think of brake pads for example . So many bikes out there with wrong tyre sizes , tyres with unsuited load or speed rating , all dangerous things .
Yesterday a clients relative brought him through to collect his bike . The relatives bike , a GSXR750 was running so rough it almost sounded like a twin , I mentioned this and the guy argued that it was running properly , I disagreed so I walked across and had a look at the bike . Oil leak on LHS running all the way back and onto the tyre , fork seals trashed and even the calipers and discs coated in oil . I pointed out these things to the guy , his response was that his friends tell him it is fine . Oh well , another person on his way to a Darwin Award , I just hope no one else is involved .
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 27, 2020, 07:42:16 am
The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy.

Dry weather so the less tread means more rubber, like a slick.

I know the insurance would not see it this way, but it is true.

I am horrified at how many unroadworthy bikes there are out there , that CBRís tyre should have been replaced long ago  , then I wonder if something as visible as the tyre was ignored then what about other things , there I think of brake pads for example . So many bikes out there with wrong tyre sizes , tyres with unsuited load or speed rating , all dangerous things .
Yesterday a clients relative brought him through to collect his bike . The relatives bike , a GSXR750 was running so rough it almost sounded like a twin , I mentioned this and the guy argued that it was running properly , I disagreed so I walked across and had a look at the bike . Oil leak on LHS running all the way back and onto the tyre , fork seals trashed and even the calipers and discs coated in oil . I pointed out these things to the guy , his response was that his friends tell him it is fine . Oh well , another person on his way to a Darwin Award , I just hope no one else is involved .

He probably means the Gixxers rev limiter is working fine.... :lol8:

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 27, 2020, 07:53:24 am
The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy.

Dry weather so the less tread means more rubber, like a slick.

I know the insurance would not see it this way, but it is true.

I am horrified at how many unroadworthy bikes there are out there , that CBRís tyre should have been replaced long ago  , then I wonder if something as visible as the tyre was ignored then what about other things , there I think of brake pads for example . So many bikes out there with wrong tyre sizes , tyres with unsuited load or speed rating , all dangerous things .
Yesterday a clients relative brought him through to collect his bike . The relatives bike , a GSXR750 was running so rough it almost sounded like a twin , I mentioned this and the guy argued that it was running properly , I disagreed so I walked across and had a look at the bike . Oil leak on LHS running all the way back and onto the tyre , fork seals trashed and even the calipers and discs coated in oil . I pointed out these things to the guy , his response was that his friends tell him it is fine . Oh well , another person on his way to a Darwin Award , I just hope no one else is involved .

He probably means the Gixxers rev limiter is working fine.... :lol8:

Too true , are you speaking from personal experience  :lol8:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on November 27, 2020, 08:06:15 am
The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy.

Dry weather so the less tread means more rubber, like a slick.

I know the insurance would not see it this way, but it is true.

I am horrified at how many unroadworthy bikes there are out there , that CBRís tyre should have been replaced long ago  , then I wonder if something as visible as the tyre was ignored then what about other things , there I think of brake pads for example . So many bikes out there with wrong tyre sizes , tyres with unsuited load or speed rating , all dangerous things .
Yesterday a clients relative brought him through to collect his bike . The relatives bike , a GSXR750 was running so rough it almost sounded like a twin , I mentioned this and the guy argued that it was running properly , I disagreed so I walked across and had a look at the bike . Oil leak on LHS running all the way back and onto the tyre , fork seals trashed and even the calipers and discs coated in oil . I pointed out these things to the guy , his response was that his friends tell him it is fine . Oh well , another person on his way to a Darwin Award , I just hope no one else is involved .

He probably means the Gixxers rev limiter is working fine.... :lol8:

Too true , are you speaking from personal experience  :lol8:

 :laughing4: Nee wat boet, nog nooit gepla gewees met bikes staan en rev nie.
Ek nog altyd gewonder as jy een van daai pre sling gsxr`s normaal sal ry en diens, hoeveel km jy uit daai enjin sal kry.

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 27, 2020, 09:43:42 am
Hulle is betroubaar ,  750 en 1100 , baie sterk enjins .
Na elke rally bel die ouens vir enjins , malligheid
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: chicco on November 27, 2020, 11:25:31 am
Is the tyre not roadworthy anymore, did anyone inspect it or is it just an opinion?   :sip:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Vulcan on November 27, 2020, 12:00:54 pm
Is the tyre not roadworthy anymore, did anyone inspect it or is it just an opinion?   :sip:

I formed an opinion based on the picture. My words were:

"The front tire on that Blade looks dodgy."

Because it looks dodgy.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: EssBee on November 27, 2020, 01:45:58 pm
The blade tyre has a big chicken strip. It would be interesting to see what the insurers think of that bald tyre when they assess the roadworthiness of the blade.
This type of very sad situation is the reason I donít ride on Sundays any longer. One close encounter with morons is one too many for me.

Yes, that wide chicken strip could mean that the rider is not into heavy cornering much.....so, if he does get in over his head....what then? Runs wide?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: manxkipper on November 27, 2020, 01:51:01 pm
Yep. Any half decent sportsbike rider will have much less of a strip. Confusing intentions with ability is very common with the sunday racer wannabees.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on November 27, 2020, 02:44:06 pm
The blade tyre has a big chicken strip. It would be interesting to see what the insurers think of that bald tyre when they assess the roadworthiness of the blade.
This type of very sad situation is the reason I donít ride on Sundays any longer. One close encounter with morons is one too many for me.

Yes, that wide chicken strip could mean that the rider is not into heavy cornering much.....so, if he does get in over his head....what then? Runs wide?

As we all know , if you start running wide apply countersteering principles , it was one of the first things we taught at the advance riding schools .
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: sgt on November 30, 2020, 09:37:47 pm
The blade tyre has a big chicken strip. It would be interesting to see what the insurers think of that bald tyre when they assess the roadworthiness of the blade.
This type of very sad situation is the reason I donít ride on Sundays any longer. One close encounter with morons is one too many for me.

Yes, that wide chicken strip could mean that the rider is not into heavy cornering much.....so, if he does get in over his head....what then? Runs wide?

As we all know , if you start running wide apply countersteering principles , it was one of the first things we taught at the advance riding schools .

As I understood he went wide, then instead of trying to correct it, leaning even more (and risking a lowside), he just decided to jump and fire the missile of a Fireblade into the other lane. That's terrible.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Fudmucker on December 01, 2020, 03:50:23 am
This is the reason why I will admire a superbike on a track or on a showroom floor,
but the moment it is stared up and ridden out onto a public road, my heart sinks and I lose interest in the bike totally.
It isn't the bike - it's the rider !.
When they flash pass me at two hundred and plenty and disappear into the distance,
I want to disassociate myself entirely from that sub-species of rider.

I say throw the book of laws and regulations at the 'Blade rider !
Instead, the authorities will inexorably link their behaviour with my far less frenetic riding and impose onerous restrictions on us all.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Grumpleton on December 01, 2020, 06:37:52 am
Interesting and a bit off topic. I have never ridden a super bike and have never had the interest in ridding one ,
but sitting at the Spur in Piketburg on Sunday I noticed a strange thing.
when the adventure bikes come in to the petrol station, they do it with dignity and quietly, the super bike riders come in and every one of them rev up the bike before switching it off and then again when they start it ,what is all this about , to me they just looked like a bunch D@@S`s , the problem being the comment from the table next to me was," why do all you bikers always have to make so such noise ".
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on December 01, 2020, 06:45:11 am
The blade tyre has a big chicken strip. It would be interesting to see what the insurers think of that bald tyre when they assess the roadworthiness of the blade.
This type of very sad situation is the reason I donít ride on Sundays any longer. One close encounter with morons is one too many for me.

Yes, that wide chicken strip could mean that the rider is not into heavy cornering much.....so, if he does get in over his head....what then? Runs wide?

As we all know , if you start running wide apply countersteering principles , it was one of the first things we taught at the advance riding schools .

As I understood he went wide, then instead of trying to correct it, leaning even more (and risking a lowside), he just decided to jump and fire the missile of a Fireblade into the other lane. That's terrible.

The chances of low siding are extremely low if you countersteer correctly , that is why I recommend advanced rider training , I am 99,99999% certain that Fireblade rider has never had such training . In this particular case and looking at the wear pattern on the tyre the rider wasnít going too fast , too fast for his abilities but not the bike or the tyres , when he realised he was running wide he should have applied pressure ( pushing away ) on the inside handlebar and the bike would have tightened its line and problem averted .
A lot of riders out there survive purely on luck , I wonít say that skill comes into the equation because if you are applying the wrong technique then it isnít skill . But knowing what the correct thing is to do in a situation prevents accidents and saves lives .
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on December 01, 2020, 06:52:20 am
Interesting and a bit off topic. I have never ridden a super bike and have never had the interest in ridding one ,
but sitting at the Spur in Piketburg on Sunday I noticed a strange thing.
when the adventure bikes come in to the petrol station, they do it with dignity and quietly, the super bike riders come in and every one of them rev up the bike before switching it off and then again when they start it ,what is all this about , to me they just looked like a bunch D@@S`s , the problem being the comment from the table next to me was," why do all you bikers always have to make so such noise ".

Most are a bunch of wankers , no consideration for others , donít forget that a lot of superbike riders are part of a club and that really brings out the asshole in them .
A company 50 metres away from my business premises has functions every couple of weekends , never a problem until the bikers are there , they will park their cars ( while walking around in their biker regalia ) anywhere and everywhere with no consideration , even when I have put up signs requesting not to park in front of the gate you can be certain someone will park me in . When they are asked to move it is attitude . Isnít it just so strange that the bikers arenít invited to have their events there anymore
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Fudmucker on December 01, 2020, 08:10:56 am
Also a side issue but relevant to the attitude of superbikers...
Few of them have number plates or any identification at all.
That puts them into the "outlaw" category and complicates things for us law-abiding guys.

If they were doing this in Oz or NZ, they would be arrested on the spot for defeating the course of justice and have their machines confiscated.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: subie on December 01, 2020, 08:23:57 am
Julle klomp ou suurstofdiewe klink ernstig afgunstig op die superbike ryers.
Kry julle nie meer hoendervleis as n superbike oor die 200km/h verby jou jaag nie.
Om nie eers te praat van n lekker wheelie nie.
Love it as ek in my huis is en hoor n superbike ernstig gesels en bietjie gas gegee word.
Lekker memories. Gun die manne wat nog kan hulle fun  :ricky:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Eisbein on December 01, 2020, 08:49:34 am
Lekker memories. Gun die manne wat nog kan hulle fun  :ricky:

Totdat iemand 'n ou oom en tannie in ICU in ploeg omdat hy te veel fun gehad het

 :'(

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Dux on December 01, 2020, 08:58:20 am
Julle klomp ou suurstofdiewe klink ernstig afgunstig op die superbike ryers.
Kry julle nie meer hoendervleis as n superbike oor die 200km/h verby jou jaag nie.
Om nie eers te praat van n lekker wheelie nie.
Love it as ek in my huis is en hoor n superbike ernstig gesels en bietjie gas gegee word.
Lekker memories. Gun die manne wat nog kan hulle fun  :ricky:

My attitude is that just because a guy can do 200 on a superbike doesnít make him a good rider , Franschhoek pass is a good example . I live aftermarket pipes , nothing as good as a sweet sounding bike , but within limits of course , but a lot of the superbike guys remove the whole silencer , I live about 1km from the N1 and I hear the bikes on Sunday mornings , then I wonder what non bikers think of them if I am pissed off with them  .
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Eisbein on December 01, 2020, 09:00:06 am
My attitude is that just because a guy can do 200 on a superbike doesnít make him a good rider , Franschhoek pass is a good example .

100%
Even if you can really ride well and can control your bike, no-one can control the environment you barrel through

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 01, 2020, 09:11:18 am
Dit is ook nie te se die oom en tannie het stadig gery nie.
Ek twyfel of enige boer hou van adventure bikes wat by sy plaas verby jaag en sy vrugte vol stof los nie, of overshoot by n draai en sy grens drade uitry nie.
Wat drink en ry betref, dink ek die groot sondebokke is die adventure bike manne want `n spietkop gaan jou mos nou nie aftrek op die grond nie.
Dit is nogal `n geneigdheid vandag om te se ek is nie perfek nie, maar daar is ander ouens wat erger goed aanvang.... :patch:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Fudmucker on December 01, 2020, 09:16:56 am
Julle klomp ou suurstofdiewe klink ernstig afgunstig op die superbike ryers.
Kry julle nie meer hoendervleis as n superbike oor die 200km/h verby jou jaag nie.
Om nie eers te praat van n lekker wheelie nie.
Love it as ek in my huis is en hoor n superbike ernstig gesels en bietjie gas gegee word.
Lekker memories. Gun die manne wat nog kan hulle fun  :ricky:

Ek gun hulle die pret ten volle - op 'n renbaan of 'dragstrip' waar slegs hulle lewens op die spel is.
Waar ek en my familie op openbare paaie ry is nie die plek om 'n ernstige wanbalans tussen die brein en die regte gewrig uit te oefen nie.
Daardie onverskillige optrede gaan net reperkussies ontketen vir ALLE motorfietsryers.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: ClemS on December 01, 2020, 09:33:30 am
Ek onthou nie te lank terug nie het een van die Dogs met 'n DS ook 'n draai te wyd gevat, afgemoer en bene gebreek.... Dis nie net superbikes nie.... So, laat staan nou maar die engelvlerkies vir al die DS ryers, ek sien gereeld van die donners wheelie sommer in Sandton tussen verkeer deur en het ook al erge negatiewe opmerkings oor dit gehoor.

So, dis ses van die een en 'n halwe dosyn van die ander.

Daar sal altyd 'n klein groepie fokkers wees, wat dit vir die groter en die groep wat selfbeheersing toepas, gaan opmors iewers. Niemand is hier uitgsluit nie.

 :patch: :patch:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wooly Bugger on December 01, 2020, 10:08:27 am
Hope you recover soon, @2StrokeDan

?

Lame joke ::)

Not knowing any background for a joke like this, I assume it is a thing between the members, it is fucked up to make jokes like this in my opinion.

Hi @Pietertjie

If you had been aware (from your post count it appears unlikely) of the long forum (and social) relationship between 2SD and myself, viewed in light of Eisbein's post, you would most probably have understood the lame fucked-up nature of my post. It was not intended to offend you, or anyone else for that matter. If it did then I offer you my apology. The same apology is extended to @2StrokeDan

I know that pass very well after spending many a weekend with my parents who lived at the base of the pass. I am not a praying man but many a time did I silently say a prayer when the bikes came past on a Sunday morning. Always in hope that they all return without harm.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Eisbein on December 01, 2020, 10:34:22 am
Daar sal altyd 'n klein groepie fokkers wees, wat dit vir die groter en die groep wat selfbeheersing toepas, gaan opmors iewers. Niemand is hier uitgsluit nie.

100% fact

Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: BuRP on December 01, 2020, 10:50:10 am
If they were doing this in Oz or NZ, they would be arrested on the spot for defeating the course of justice and have their machines confiscated.

Oh please, emigrate already..... to those two shit countries in which citizens have no more rights anymore but a gazillion freedom-restricting laws to adhere to!
And they are made to adhere to them, by superstrict policing if not reported by their very own neighbours "because that's the right thing to do" according to State-sponsored TV ads, the mere principle the Pitts of Indoctrination!
Have fun there, the absolute maximum toptopspeed in NZ being 100 km/h.... and you will not dare to go quicker because of the astonishingly costly fines which you WILL incur!
Oz is it's close second, a vast country in which nothing's possible anymore, because personal freedom has been eradicated!
Viva the RSA in that repect!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Grumpleton on December 01, 2020, 06:51:35 pm
well that went TITS up quickly  all I asked was why the noise  before you switch your bike off and the noise on start up . you lot should get off your high horses gees , man . , :spitcoffee: and they call me a Grumpy K0nt
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 01, 2020, 09:49:15 pm
Interesting and a bit off topic. I have never ridden a super bike and have never had the interest in ridding one ,
but sitting at the Spur in Piketburg on Sunday I noticed a strange thing.
when the adventure bikes come in to the petrol station, they do it with dignity and quietly, the super bike riders come in and every one of them rev up the bike before switching it off and then again when they start it ,what is all this about , to me they just looked like a bunch D@@S`s , the problem being the comment from the table next to me was," why do all you bikers always have to make so such noise ".

You'll probably blame the superbike riders for the closure of Old Postal route as well? :pot:

Hooligans in every genre of biking.

Why do you think a lot of 150HP+ "adventure" bikes get sold?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Grumpleton on December 02, 2020, 01:40:17 am
Interesting and a bit off topic. I have never ridden a super bike and have never had the interest in ridding one ,
but sitting at the Spur in Piketburg on Sunday I noticed a strange thing.
when the adventure bikes come in to the petrol station, they do it with dignity and quietly, the super bike riders come in and every one of them rev up the bike before switching it off and then again when they start it ,what is all this about , to me they just looked like a bunch D@@S`s , the problem being the comment from the table next to me was," why do all you bikers always have to make so such noise ".

You'll probably blame the superbike riders for the closure of Old Postal route as well? :pot:

Hooligans in every genre of biking.

Why do you think a lot of 150HP+ "adventure" bikes get sold?
:laughing4:

no that I blame old men on plastics and quads , these people stuff everything up for us quite adventure loving types , you know us daisy sniffing types. :imaposer:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 02, 2020, 04:07:56 pm
Interesting and a bit off topic. I have never ridden a super bike and have never had the interest in ridding one ,
but sitting at the Spur in Piketburg on Sunday I noticed a strange thing.
when the adventure bikes come in to the petrol station, they do it with dignity and quietly, the super bike riders come in and every one of them rev up the bike before switching it off and then again when they start it ,what is all this about , to me they just looked like a bunch D@@S`s , the problem being the comment from the table next to me was," why do all you bikers always have to make so such noise ".

You'll probably blame the superbike riders for the closure of Old Postal route as well? :pot:

Hooligans in every genre of biking.

Why do you think a lot of 150HP+ "adventure" bikes get sold?
:laughing4:

no that I blame old men on plastics and quads , these people stuff everything up for us quite adventure loving types , you know us daisy sniffing types. :imaposer:

More like daisy-spinning...... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: roxenz on December 03, 2020, 07:35:29 am
If they were doing this in Oz or NZ, they would be arrested on the spot for defeating the course of justice and have their machines confiscated.

Oh please, emigrate already..... to those two shit countries in which citizens have no more rights anymore but a gazillion freedom-restricting laws to adhere to!
And they are made to adhere to them, by superstrict policing if not reported by their very own neighbours "because that's the right thing to do" according to State-sponsored TV ads, the mere principle the Pitts of Indoctrination!
Have fun there, the absolute maximum toptopspeed in NZ being 100 km/h.... and you will not dare to go quicker because of the astonishingly costly fines which you WILL incur!
Oz is it's close second, a vast country in which nothing's possible anymore, because personal freedom has been eradicated!
Viva the RSA in that repect!  :thumleft:
You reminded me of a Kiwi mate who often came to SA for business in the late 1990s. He would get in his rental at the airport and drive straight through the first red light he came accross. Always said he enjoyed coming here because he felt like a free person here. Was a bit of a wild one, with a Bonneville fetish. Now lives in Canada alas - he must be going senile.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Fudmucker on December 03, 2020, 09:15:52 am
He's just chilling up in Canada...  ;)
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Roxtar on December 03, 2020, 09:38:47 am
Keeping to speed limits, not revving bikes, behaving..... almost thought I was on a knitting thread.... :lol8:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Herklaas on December 03, 2020, 10:19:47 am
Keeping to speed limits, not revving bikes, behaving..... almost thought I was on a knitting thread.... :lol8:

 :sip: You forgot to mention, riding stone-cold sober only.   :bueller:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: BuRP on December 03, 2020, 12:41:08 pm
You reminded me of a Kiwi mate ...... Now lives in Canada alas - he must be going senile.

Not been to Canada yet but he just may have a liiiiiitle bit more freedom there than he was used to, NZ being the royal champion of Public Belittling on a National scale of all the countries I've been to!
Oz is close though, and Canada (yeah, hearsay, internet-knowledge plus some info of some friends who live there) seems to follow this trend close-ish.
Look, all 3 countries are stunning, their nature throwing you stunning vistas which are baffling, 'awesome' in the most literal meaning..... but the people themselves, I pity them: locked & loaded to loath free spirits, and anyone doing/acting a bit 'freely' (jaywalking, speeding very modestly, cleaning your own gutter without eye protection (I fggn kid you NOT!) or lighting a braai fire in your own backyard) is instantly penalized by the authorities, sometimes alerted by your very own neighbours - which is normal and not frowned upon due to government campaigns which have unfortunately been very effective, the people have been brainwashed beyond rescue already  :-\
Go for a holiday and have a look, but think twice if not thrice of settling there if you also relish in the abundant personal freedom we enjoy here in ol' SA!
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Welsh on December 03, 2020, 12:56:10 pm
Keeping to speed limits, not revving bikes, behaving..... almost thoughtl I was on a knitting thread.... :lol8:
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 :sip: You forgot to mention, riding stone-cold sober only.   :bueller:
The glory days of the old Forum, Birthday Shabeen runs in the Bush, totally debauched behaviour, we would be crucified on the forum for such behaviour today. 🙄
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 03, 2020, 06:48:38 pm
Keeping to speed limits, not revving bikes, behaving..... almost thought I was on a knitting thread.... :lol8:

Hey, have you ever been to a speed-knitting event? >:D  Die ou anties raak rof.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wooly Bugger on December 03, 2020, 06:58:37 pm
Some of us are into knitting and growing clivias. Some hardcore ouens are even into bonsai trees............ :peepwall:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Offshore on December 03, 2020, 08:09:04 pm
 :imaposer: :laughing4:



On a more serious Note,
Hey, have you ever been to a speed-knitting event? >:D  Die ou anties raak rof.
Danie, dankie Jigge dat jy nie drink nie, kan jy dink wat jy ons dan sou onderwerp het. :lol8:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 03, 2020, 08:26:31 pm
:imaposer: :laughing4:



On a more serious Note,
Hey, have you ever been to a speed-knitting event? >:D  Die ou anties raak rof.
Danie, dankie Jigge dat jy nie drink nie, kan jy dink wat jy ons dan sou onderwerp het. :lol8:

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wooly Bugger on December 03, 2020, 08:28:47 pm
hijack

2StrokeDan drink nie meer nie.














Ook nie minder nie.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 03, 2020, 08:36:50 pm
Ek drink nie eers water nie.
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wooly Bugger on December 03, 2020, 09:51:37 pm
Ek drink nie eers water nie.

Seker net 2 stroke oil?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Wooly Bugger on December 03, 2020, 09:53:04 pm
back to topic.

hoe gaan dit met die beseerdes?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: WannaBeJoe on December 07, 2020, 06:50:09 pm
Very informative: today I learnt that the plural for "d@@s" is "d@@s's".
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 07, 2020, 07:54:49 pm
Very informative: today I learnt that the plural for "d@@s" is "d@@s's".

Soos in oor-d@@s's. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: chicco on December 11, 2020, 07:35:44 am
Very informative: today I learnt that the plural for "d@@s" is "d@@s's".

Soos in oor-d@@s's. :biggrin:

Ek altyd gedink dis D@@STE....
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: jaybiker on December 11, 2020, 08:08:06 am
..........and me being just a dom rooinek thought it was dose :-\

WTF would I know?
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: Herklaas on December 11, 2020, 08:33:45 am
 :sip: Ek dink dis DOOSDE, DOOSSTE is die meervoud van D@@s?  :bueller:
Title: Re: Franschhoek Pass - again
Post by: WannaBeJoe on December 11, 2020, 09:53:42 am
Laaitie kom middag by die huis van die skool af. Moerse opgewonde.

Laaitie: "Pa, Pa!!!, raai wat het ek vandag geleer by die skool!?".
Pa: "Weet nie, Ouboet, se^ maar ....."
Laaitie: "'n Nuwe woord vir P@@S, Pa!"
Pa: "Wragtag! Vertel my meer."
Laaitie: "Vanoggend toe ons buite in die quad aantree vir saalbyeenkoms, toe se^ die skoolhoof: Manne, dis darem snerpend koud vanoggend. "

.... so, ons kan ook "snerpend" gebruik, maar natuurlik is daar 'n obvious flaw ... geen meervoud nie.