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Title: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 13, 2020, 10:59:44 pm
Imagine you're riding along the Colorado Backcountry Discovery Route, having the time of your life, you're not bothering anybody, thinking about the best Bj you ever received, and then BAM, for no particular reason, without even touching a brake pedal, your front brake locks up and body slams your ass to the ground.

KTM can provide this experience for you for the princely sum of 13 thousand American dollars  :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :pot:






https://advrider.com/f/threads/790-adventures-brakes-seize-on-cobdr-a-mini-review.1469606/
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 13, 2020, 11:09:44 pm
You have a hard on for the 790 hey.

In a bad way I mean.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on December 14, 2020, 12:43:44 am
Well, if it had been a T7, he'd be in the ambulance by now
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 14, 2020, 01:12:38 am
You have a hard on for the 790 hey.

In a bad way I mean.
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 14, 2020, 05:03:13 am
Maybe so, but also a poor workman always blames his tools.

I recall a top rider going down like this on the Dakar a few years back. It happens that riders make mistakes. Maybe a glove stuck, who knows. But to blame the equipment if there aren't lots of failures like this is probably premature.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 14, 2020, 06:15:43 am
Maybe so, but also a poor workman always blames his tools.

I recall a top rider going down like this on the Dakar a few years back. It happens that riders make mistakes. Maybe a glove stuck, who knows. But to blame the equipment if there aren't lots of failures like this is probably premature.
Iíve read several claiming their bikes have the same issue, yet KTM denies itís an issue. 

Several owners have reported the issue to the NHTSA.

Read the comments section on the video posted above on YouTube!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 14, 2020, 06:20:52 am
Itís just one of many issues the bike is plagued with.

Now that the bike has been out a few years, some owners are reporting stress fractures on the fuel tank.  The odd shaped fuel tank is a very expensive replacement.

Brakes locking up for no reason and leaking fuel tanks is a serious safety issue!


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 14, 2020, 06:22:08 am
Yawn......
WWE also having a Covid time out....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: subie on December 14, 2020, 06:34:37 am
Started to doubt these guys as true bikers when the first question that popped out was "are you alright". Should have been "is the bike  alright. But then they redeemed themselves by immediately picking up the bike and see that it is ok.
Definately bikers   :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 14, 2020, 06:41:50 am
Fuel tank stress fractures on a 790R

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 14, 2020, 06:51:49 am
I have a KTM300, which I love dearly, but the 790 is a cheaply-made-to-maximise-profit-to-company piece of equipment.

The internet is a pesky thing, for KTM owners currently. O0

Of course, immediately, all internet complaints are ignored by the usual suspects, and the brand defended. ::)

KYM fanboys, you are being duped, not only by KTM, but even more by Bajaj Auto. :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 14, 2020, 07:22:29 am
This made me think back on the bike journalist that died on the GS BMW, and the rumours around steering head failures, and the ensuing "crimping" backyard fix.

A potentially life-threatening situation made light of by the fanboys.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 07:33:55 am
Best acting I've seen in a while.... :peepwall: It will only overheat if you are not going fast enough....like when you ride like a baby...or ride with BMW's or Yamaha's......

KTM has issued a recall on certain 790 Adventure and 790 Adventure R models for an issue with the rear brake system. A total of 3,164 bikes are affected by the recall issued through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

According to the defect report, insufficient heat transfer between the rear brake hose and the metal fitting that mounts to the rear brake caliper may cause the brake line to overheat. For affected units, there is a possibility that the rear brake system may fail under heavy use.

A new rear brake line, with a longer metal fitting, has been developed to improve heat transfer. To remedy the braking issue, it is necessary to replace the brake line that leads from the rear brake caliper to the ABS modulator. Also during the repair it is necessary to replace the round head Torx screw on the rear brake lever with a new screw. KTM will notify owners, and dealers will install the recommended parts, free of charge.

The recall is expected to begin June 1, 2020. Owners may contact KTM customer service at 1-888-985-6090. KTMís number for this recall is TB2011. Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or check your VIN for recalls at www.nhtsa.gov.

So the issue was fixed and only 3200 bikes were affected.

on the KTM sales

Thereís no doubt the U.S. is one of todayís most challenging markets. Once predictable and lucrative, manufacturers are now scrambling for traction as demographics wane and trends shift unsteadily. Despite a strong economy, sales of new motorcycles were not just stagnant in 2019, they actually shrank by 2.7%.

But KTMís sales grew by 3.6% in the U.S. last year. If that doesnít impress you, what about the fact that 9.7% of new motorcycles sold in the States last year were KTMs or Husqvarnas.

In the global market, Pierer Groupís figures are no less impressive and also not strictly a story about small displacement sales. Globally, large displacement bike sales (over 1200cc) were down 6.3% for 2019 while KTMís sales of bikes over 1200cc went up by a whopping 14.5%.

In total, KTM sold 280,099 units globally, up from 234,449 in 2018. And Husqvarna, benefitting from KTMís aggressive support saw sales rise to 45,650 units, creating a 7% increase in marketshare for the duo, and a 4% gain in revenue.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 14, 2020, 07:44:35 am
Best acting I've seen in a while.... :peepwall: It will only overheat if you are not going fast enough....like when you ride like a baby...or ride with BMW's or Yamaha's......

KTM has issued a recall on certain 790 Adventure and 790 Adventure R models for an issue with the rear brake system. A total of 3,164 bikes are affected by the recall issued through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

According to the defect report, insufficient heat transfer between the rear brake hose and the metal fitting that mounts to the rear brake caliper may cause the brake line to overheat. For affected units, there is a possibility that the rear brake system may fail under heavy use.

A new rear brake line, with a longer metal fitting, has been developed to improve heat transfer. To remedy the braking issue, it is necessary to replace the brake line that leads from the rear brake caliper to the ABS modulator. Also during the repair it is necessary to replace the round head Torx screw on the rear brake lever with a new screw. KTM will notify owners, and dealers will install the recommended parts, free of charge.

The recall is expected to begin June 1, 2020. Owners may contact KTM customer service at 1-888-985-6090. KTMís number for this recall is TB2011. Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or check your VIN for recalls at www.nhtsa.gov.

So the issue was fixed and only 3200 bikes were affected.

on the KTM sales

Thereís no doubt the U.S. is one of todayís most challenging markets. Once predictable and lucrative, manufacturers are now scrambling for traction as demographics wane and trends shift unsteadily. Despite a strong economy, sales of new motorcycles were not just stagnant in 2019, they actually shrank by 2.7%.

But KTMís sales grew by 3.6% in the U.S. last year. If that doesnít impress you, what about the fact that 9.7% of new motorcycles sold in the States last year were KTMs or Husqvarnas.

In the global market, Pierer Groupís figures are no less impressive and also not strictly a story about small displacement sales. Globally, large displacement bike sales (over 1200cc) were down 6.3% for 2019 while KTMís sales of bikes over 1200cc went up by a whopping 14.5%.

In total, KTM sold 280,099 units globally, up from 234,449 in 2018. And Husqvarna, benefitting from KTMís aggressive support saw sales rise to 45,650 units, creating a 7% increase in marketshare for the duo, and a 4% gain in revenue.

A smallish company suddenly experiencing growth would perfectly explain the many reliability and quality issues. You make sense, Sir.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 07:52:31 am
smallish company... :imaposer:

In its quarterly earnings report, KTM also announced its market share numbers around the globe. In the relatively strong European motorcycle market, KTM holds steady with 11.4 percent of the market. Despite a more difficult US market overall, KTM managed to expand its market share to 9 percent, an increase over its previous 8.4 percent share. KTM just passed Harley-Davidson in global sales numbers.

KTM Is Now Officially The Biggest Manufacturer Outside Asia
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 14, 2020, 07:56:45 am
Thats probably why the T7 is sold cheap in other markets, people are loving the unreliable bikes... :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 07:56:56 am
ok now for some Yamaha bassing....Please note this was onlu in the last 5 years all on different bikes.....The last one left some egg on their face....

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2020/03/04/2019-yamaha-yzf-r3-two-recalls-announced-due-to-front-brake-issues/

https://shifting-gears.com/yamaha-issues-recall-for-r3-mt03-motorcycles/

https://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/two-wheelers/motorcycles/yamaha-recalls-13348-units-of-two-bike-models-to-fix-faulty-part/72044094

https://motorbikewriter.com/yamaha-r3-11th-recall-notice/

https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/yamaha-issues-huge-recall-shortly-after-being-named-most-reliable-brand-ar168725.html
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 07:57:59 am
Sorry Daan..... :'(
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 08:04:29 am
BMW isnt doing to well either......

https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/bmw-issues-two-new-recalls-r1250gs/

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/440296/2020-recall-bmw-motorcycles-3/

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2020/08/31/bmw-recalls-16926-motorcycles-due-to-fuel-leak-2005-2012-models/

https://motorbikewriter.com/bmw-issues-two-product-recalls/

http://bmwfatalflaw.com/  Fatal flaw.... :eek7: BMW BIKER'S NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE 160 000 BIKES RECALLED.

Sorry Big Oil.... :deal:



Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 14, 2020, 08:47:50 am
CP2 motor was rated as the most reliable in it's class, by German research nogal
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 73 Peanut on December 14, 2020, 10:27:16 am
 :imaposer: :imaposer:he must have touched rhe brake slightly.  If a guy can walk away from the accident then you may laugh .
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 14, 2020, 12:17:22 pm
Chicco chicco @chicco ,

Tsk tsk tsk, Yankee bashing with a handful of facts?
Don't you understand that they expect "forever flawless no matter how much you abuse the product" backed up by their ridiculous laws?
Hell, a cup of Mac's too hot coffee in your lap may make you a millionaire, you don't know that?
You're from the real world my man, you have common sense, cool down please... same like you would do with your coffee  :thumleft:

Yeah I like your posts, but this bit is for those totally lacking common sense or any sign of reason(ability)  :P
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 12:30:42 pm
Chicco chicco @chicco ,

Tsk tsk tsk, Yankee bashing with a handful of facts?
Don't you understand that they expect "forever flawless no matter how much you abuse the product" backed up by their ridiculous laws?
Hell, a cup of Mac's too hot coffee in your lap may make you a millionaire, you don't know that?
You're from the real world my man, you have common sense, cool down please... same like you would do with your coffee  :thumleft:

Yeah I like your posts, but this bit is for those totally lacking common sense or any sign of reason(ability)  :P

The do like to sue.....we had a TLB on the back of a lowbed and the lowbed (independent transported) had an accident involving a 3rd party, they tried to sue is because our machine was on the back and if our machine wasn't transported the lowbed wasn't needed and if the lowbed wasn't needed they wound be in the accident.....The just saw our name and thought money....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 14, 2020, 12:41:38 pm
The do like to sue.....we had a TLB on the back of a lowbed and the lowbed (independent transported) had an accident involving a 3rd party, they tried to sue is because our machine was on the back and if our machine wasn't transported the lowbed wasn't needed and if the lowbed wasn't needed they wound be in the accident.....The just saw our name and thought money....

So, basically you were sued because you own a TLB?
Yeah, that definitely is a more sophisticated part of the world hmm?
 :lol8:

Let's carry on with this thread, after all I own a handful of KTM's, a 790 amoung them.... ooh shit, hope @2StrokeDan  won't sue me now?
Big Oil cannot because he's not a Boertjie - hell, would have been funny if he was probably?
Suddenly normal, reasonable, would&could make a plan, geez, he'd even speak a second language!  :P
Enjoy your time there Chicco, hope you're in a part that has a similar climate to us here, lekker  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 14, 2020, 12:43:58 pm
Big Soil en 2SD is besig met `n Zoom meeting.
Hulle strategie is heel opgedonner deur daai Chicco ou.....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on December 14, 2020, 01:00:27 pm
Is nobody going to discuss how they picked up the bike before their mate  :peepwall: :laughing4:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 14, 2020, 01:09:57 pm
Is nobody going to discuss how they picked up the bike before their mate

Huh?
Why?
That's mos normal of hoe?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on December 14, 2020, 01:12:51 pm
Is nobody going to discuss how they picked up the bike before their mate

Huh?
Why?
That's mos normal of hoe?

ba ha.. just checking  :laughing4:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 14, 2020, 01:33:25 pm
Big Soil en 2SD is besig met `n Zoom meeting.
Hulle strategie is heel opgedonner deur daai Chicco ou.....

No amount of Yamaha's breaking down can make the 790 reliable. Only KTm can, themselves, without the Indo-Chinese.

So, no, Chicco did not donner up our strategy, as discussed by zoom. :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on December 14, 2020, 01:38:01 pm
 :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Ri on December 14, 2020, 04:28:16 pm
Chicco chicco @chicco ,

Tsk tsk tsk, Yankee bashing with a handful of facts?
Don't you understand that they expect "forever flawless no matter how much you abuse the product" backed up by their ridiculous laws?
Hell, a cup of Mac's too hot coffee in your lap may make you a millionaire, you don't know that?
You're from the real world my man, you have common sense, cool down please... same like you would do with your coffee  :thumleft:

Yeah I like your posts, but this bit is for those totally lacking common sense or any sign of reason(ability)  :P

Since we're aaaaaaall about fact checking on this forum, why don't you get yours straight? ::)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit-stella-liebeck (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13971482/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit-stella-liebeck)
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In a new segment of Adam Ruins Everything, host Adam Conover explains that basically everything people think they know about the McDonaldís hot coffee lawsuit is false. He walks through some of the actual details of the case:

  • Stella Liebeck was a 79-year-old woman in Albuquerque, New Mexico, whose grandson drove her to McDonaldís in 1992. She was in a parked car when the coffee spilled.
  • Liebeck acknowledged that the spill was her fault. What she took issue with was that the coffee was so ridiculously hot ó at up to 190 degrees Fahrenheit, near boiling point ó that it caused third-degree burns on her legs and genitals, nearly killing her and requiring extensive surgery to treat.
  • McDonaldís apparently knew that this was unsafe. In the decade before Liebeckís spill, McDonaldís had received 700 reports of people burning themselves. McDonaldís admitted that its coffee was a hazard at such high temperatures. But it continued the practice, enforced by official McDonaldís policy, of heating up its coffee to near-boiling point. (McDonaldís claimed customers wanted the coffee this hot.)
  • Liebeck didnít want to go to court. She just wanted McDonaldís to pay her medical expenses, estimated at $20,000. McDonaldís only offered $800, leading her to file a lawsuit in 1994.
  • After hearing the evidence, the jury concluded that McDonaldís handling of its coffee was so irresponsible that Liebeck should get much more than $20,000, suggesting she get nearly $2.9 million to send the company a message. Liebeck settled for less than $600,000. And McDonaldís began changing how it heats up its coffee.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 14, 2020, 04:37:24 pm
Hell, a cup of Mac's too hot coffee in your lap may make you a millionaire, you don't know that?

Since we're aaaaaaall about fact checking on this forum, why don't you get yours straight?

Clearer now?
 ;)

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Ri on December 14, 2020, 04:40:23 pm
Hell, a cup of Mac's too hot coffee in your lap may make you a millionaire, you don't know that?

Since we're aaaaaaall about fact checking on this forum, why don't you get yours straight?

Clearer now?
 ;)

No. That woman suffered. Everyone is swallowing the disinformation campaign. Kinda like... :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Odd Dog on December 14, 2020, 04:41:01 pm
Some guys just can't see the forest for the trees! Or  don't want to.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 14, 2020, 04:41:58 pm
Liebeck settled for less than $600,000.

 :lol8:
You mean I should have said "multimillionaire" ?
Zis iz Ront country 'ere, just saying  :P


Edited: of course she suffered, no monies for nothing.... but she got money, unlike anywhere else in the world at that time!
But, she was the last one also, so 'don't try this at home'  ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 14, 2020, 06:29:28 pm
Some guys just can't see the forest for the trees! Or  don't want to.

The whole world is trying to go paperless,  and now some people carry on about forests for the trees.
I mean really, some people go through life with blinkers on. :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 14, 2020, 06:47:01 pm
Hey you guys must concentrate, los MacDonald's uit, it's the other cheapie we're bashing here. :deal: :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 14, 2020, 06:52:54 pm
Best acting I've seen in a while.... :peepwall: It will only overheat if you are not going fast enough....like when you ride like a baby...or ride with BMW's or Yamaha's......

KTM has issued a recall on certain 790 Adventure and 790 Adventure R models for an issue with the rear brake system. A total of 3,164 bikes are affected by the recall issued through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

According to the defect report, insufficient heat transfer between the rear brake hose and the metal fitting that mounts to the rear brake caliper may cause the brake line to overheat. For affected units, there is a possibility that the rear brake system may fail under heavy use.

A new rear brake line, with a longer metal fitting, has been developed to improve heat transfer. To remedy the braking issue, it is necessary to replace the brake line that leads from the rear brake caliper to the ABS modulator. Also during the repair it is necessary to replace the round head Torx screw on the rear brake lever with a new screw. KTM will notify owners, and dealers will install the recommended parts, free of charge.

The recall is expected to begin June 1, 2020. Owners may contact KTM customer service at 1-888-985-6090. KTMís number for this recall is TB2011. Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or check your VIN for recalls at www.nhtsa.gov.

So the issue was fixed and only 3200 bikes were affected.

on the KTM sales

Thereís no doubt the U.S. is one of todayís most challenging markets. Once predictable and lucrative, manufacturers are now scrambling for traction as demographics wane and trends shift unsteadily. Despite a strong economy, sales of new motorcycles were not just stagnant in 2019, they actually shrank by 2.7%.

But KTMís sales grew by 3.6% in the U.S. last year. If that doesnít impress you, what about the fact that 9.7% of new motorcycles sold in the States last year were KTMs or Husqvarnas.

In the global market, Pierer Groupís figures are no less impressive and also not strictly a story about small displacement sales. Globally, large displacement bike sales (over 1200cc) were down 6.3% for 2019 while KTMís sales of bikes over 1200cc went up by a whopping 14.5%.

In total, KTM sold 280,099 units globally, up from 234,449 in 2018. And Husqvarna, benefitting from KTMís aggressive support saw sales rise to 45,650 units, creating a 7% increase in marketshare for the duo, and a 4% gain in revenue.

What you listed is the rear brake line recall, which has been addressed. 

What I'm taking issue with is front brake master cylinders self modulating and locking up, which KTM.....denies  :biggrin:

I applaud your efforts though.  :biggrin:

Jim Jones got over 900 people to commit suicide with grape Kool-aid.

KTM's is orange  :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Edgar on December 14, 2020, 07:38:00 pm
Take it easy Mr Hall
Title: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 14, 2020, 08:37:36 pm
When the engine is filled with IndoChinese components, you can just give them a new one so the same thing happens again

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on December 17, 2020, 07:38:22 pm
No point in bashing the messenger here even if he is not from here. :-[

Follow and focus on the facts before this thread goes to shit again and our American friend who just so happens to have factual credibility is again banned for defending his stance which in all honestly seems 100% correct AGAIN.. :thumleft:

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wayne on December 17, 2020, 08:06:06 pm
No point in bashing the messenger here even if he is not from here. :-[

Follow and focus on the facts before this thread goes to shit again and our American friend who just so happens to have factual credibility is again banned for defending his stance which in all honestly seems 100% correct AGAIN.. :thumleft:
Got to agree with you. I sometimes get the impression there are some tools on this forum that subtly bait BO to provoke a reaction.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on December 17, 2020, 08:43:50 pm
Fuel tank stress fractures on a 790R

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Ek kan die stress issues Imagine met daai pramme wat so naby aan die grond hang

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 18, 2020, 12:35:47 am
A fair balanced review from an owner with 40,000 km on his 790R.

A replacement fuel tank = $1,581.70 usd.

New front brake discs = $208 usd each.

Wheels are known to be soft:

New front wheel assembly = $1,080 usd.

New rear wheel assembly = $1,153.43 usd.

New TFT screen (some riders report being on their 6th replacement dash) = $1,153.79 usd plus labor for programming.

Fuel pump replacement = $370.69 usd plus labor for installation.

Replacement headlamp = $935.59 usd




Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on December 18, 2020, 12:49:24 am
Legendary topic title BTW
:imaposer:

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 18, 2020, 06:15:11 am
Legendary topic title BTW
:imaposer:

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Quite apt too.  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Odd Dog on December 18, 2020, 09:49:06 am
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on December 18, 2020, 06:06:48 pm
I was riding yesterday with two friends with 790's, I've ridden a few trips with them before. They both love them despite the fact that both have experienced some or most of the troubles mentioned on this thread, especially the rear shocks. And they are both disgusted with the poor dealer service with regard to replacement spares availability even under warrantee.

And yet they still love them. I can well understand them loving the way they ride, even though I haven't managed to get a ride  :( I can still see for myself the way they disdainfully make light of the terrain, but I'm not sure myself if this is enough to compensate for the obvious drawbacks of ownership.  :-\
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bundu on December 18, 2020, 06:31:40 pm
I've owned KTM since 2013 and have been loving it

My 2015 1290T is still the only bike I desire and I've had ZERO shit with it - I've been wanting to 'upgrade', but there is nothing

This key-less and iPad screen stuff doesn't interest me and I will only accept it once people stop moaning about it
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 18, 2020, 06:43:41 pm
I was riding yesterday with two friends with 790's, I've ridden a few trips with them before. They both love them despite the fact that both have experienced some or most of the troubles mentioned on this thread, especially the rear shocks. And they are both disgusted with the poor dealer service with regard to replacement spares availability even under warrantee.

And yet they still love them. I can well understand them loving the way they ride, even though I haven't managed to get a ride  :( I can still see for myself the way they disdainfully make light of the terrain, but I'm not sure myself if this is enough to compensate for the obvious drawbacks of ownership.  :-\
Anyone who has owned an Alfa can relate
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Herkules on December 19, 2020, 06:03:57 am
I was riding yesterday with two friends with 790's, I've ridden a few trips with them before. They both love them despite the fact that both have experienced some or most of the troubles mentioned on this thread, especially the rear shocks. And they are both disgusted with the poor dealer service with regard to replacement spares availability even under warrantee.

And yet they still love them. I can well understand them loving the way they ride, even though I haven't managed to get a ride  :( I can still see for myself the way they disdainfully make light of the terrain, but I'm not sure myself if this is enough to compensate for the obvious drawbacks of ownership.  :-\
Anyone who has owned an Alfa can relate

I had three Alfas that's why I now ride my second Triumph Tiger, and also have two classic Teneres. Bored, nothing to fix.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 19, 2020, 06:09:33 am
I've owned KTM since 2013 and have been loving it

My 2015 1290T is still the only bike I desire and I've had ZERO shit with it - I've been wanting to 'upgrade', but there is nothing

This key-less and iPad screen stuff doesn't interest me and I will only accept it once people stop moaning about it

I can't fault you for loving your bike, nor can I say anything negative about the 1290T.

That model seemed to be well sorted by the time it arrived on our shores.

Tons of power, great ride and handling, and if I recall correctly, came standard with extra large locking panniers and a heated seat, all for several thousand dollars less than a GSA.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: ETS on December 19, 2020, 08:08:04 am
I've owned KTM since 2013 and have been loving it

My 2015 1290T is still the only bike I desire and I've had ZERO shit with it - I've been wanting to 'upgrade', but there is nothing

This key-less and iPad screen stuff doesn't interest me and I will only accept it once people stop moaning about it

I have 1290T and a 1290 R as well- must say i prefer 1290R
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bundu on December 19, 2020, 06:45:27 pm
I've owned KTM since 2013 and have been loving it

My 2015 1290T is still the only bike I desire and I've had ZERO shit with it - I've been wanting to 'upgrade', but there is nothing

This key-less and iPad screen stuff doesn't interest me and I will only accept it once people stop moaning about it

I have 1290T and a 1290 R as well- must say i prefer 1290R
a friend of mine has 1290R - we often swop bikes and he says my bike feels more 'lively' - I also nail him on twisty paved roads - his bike is only at 5000km, so will probably get better - on unpaved roads, the R is obviously better
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chopperpilot on December 19, 2020, 07:41:03 pm
I was riding yesterday with two friends with 790's, I've ridden a few trips with them before. They both love them despite the fact that both have experienced some or most of the troubles mentioned on this thread, especially the rear shocks. And they are both disgusted with the poor dealer service with regard to replacement spares availability even under warrantee.

And yet they still love them. I can well understand them loving the way they ride, even though I haven't managed to get a ride  :( I can still see for myself the way they disdainfully make light of the terrain, but I'm not sure myself if this is enough to compensate for the obvious drawbacks of ownership.  :-\
Pretty similar to Land Rover ownership!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 19, 2020, 09:04:11 pm
I've owned KTM since 2013 and have been loving it

My 2015 1290T is still the only bike I desire and I've had ZERO shit with it - I've been wanting to 'upgrade', but there is nothing

This key-less and iPad screen stuff doesn't interest me and I will only accept it once people stop moaning about it

I have 1290T and a 1290 R as well- must say i prefer 1290R
a friend of mine has 1290R - we often swop bikes and he says my bike feels more 'lively' - I also nail him on twisty paved roads - his bike is only at 5000km, so will probably get better - on unpaved roads, the R is obviously better

Who you nail is your business, but isn't it dangerous to be doing that on roads?


Sorry, couldn't resist  :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bundu on December 19, 2020, 09:33:12 pm

Sorry, couldn't resist  :biggrin:
wash that mind out with BLEACH  ;) ;D :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 22, 2020, 01:25:26 am

Sorry, couldn't resist  :biggrin:
wash that mind out with BLEACH  ;) ;D :biggrin:

I don't have Covid  :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 22, 2020, 08:15:38 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2020, 08:25:37 am
Fuel tank stress fractures on a 790R

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Ek kan die stress issues Imagine met daai pramme wat so naby aan die grond hang

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What wasnt mentioned here is how the tank never failed and how the owner was happy to fix it himself as he mentioned how he knows how many hard hits and falls he has had.

On the other had, fixing a radiator yourself after same falls would not just happen at home, granted you even could get the bike home.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 08:33:23 am
I would actually not feel all that relaxed about a fuel tank that's showing stress cracks.

It does contain a highly flammable liquid. This could actually have very serious implications in responsible markets, like the US and EU.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2020, 08:35:27 am
I was riding yesterday with two friends with 790's, I've ridden a few trips with them before. They both love them despite the fact that both have experienced some or most of the troubles mentioned on this thread, especially the rear shocks. And they are both disgusted with the poor dealer service with regard to replacement spares availability even under warrantee.

And yet they still love them. I can well understand them loving the way they ride, even though I haven't managed to get a ride  :( I can still see for myself the way they disdainfully make light of the terrain, but I'm not sure myself if this is enough to compensate for the obvious drawbacks of ownership.  :-\

Must say I dont get it, the average 790R owner abuses the bike twice as much as any other owner, but we expect the bike to even be more reliable?
You can make anything reliable if you make it slow enough, my current favorite quote and very applicable.


This reminds me, I learned to ride on the old 1200GS (broke it), then got 1190R, broke it and upgraded the suspension, got a random 1200GS again to sell for a profit, first ride on the whoops behind my house I pop a fork seal with a nasty clack, hits the 1190R could then take with a smile, repeatedly.
Eventually I broke the 1190R again (and an Excel rim), with even harder hits, cause the goal posts were moved.




Take away all these breakdowns and perceived issues on the 790R, and you will find the next weak-point in line, cause they will just be put through more abuse, and the same thread would still be created...
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2020, 08:37:55 am
I would actually not feel all that relaxed about a fuel tank that's showing stress cracks.

It does contain a highly flammable liquid. This could actually have very serious implications in responsible markets, like the US and EU.

so after repeated hits, same hits that would take out a radiator and leave you stranded on most other bike designs, and then showing stress fractures (not leaking) this is still a bad design?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on December 22, 2020, 08:41:56 am
I too would be terrified to ride a 790R with its poorly designed fuel tank.

When I was a fast as fuck young lad racing motocross, I witnessed what happens when gasoline ignites a rider.

Apparently dad didn't get his sons fuel cap tightened enough, it came loose during the race, fuel dumped all over the hot engine, ignited, and melted the poor kids motocross clothes off of him.

His testicles were hanging but there was no nut sack around them.

Horrible horrible accident. 

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: punisher on December 22, 2020, 08:54:02 am
ouch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2020, 08:56:44 am
I too would be terrified to ride a 790R with its poorly designed fuel tank.

When I was a fast as fuck young lad racing motocross, I witnessed what happens when gasoline ignites a rider.

Apparently dad didn't get his sons fuel cap tightened enough, it came loose during the race, fuel dumped all over the hot engine, ignited, and melted the poor kids motocross clothes off of him.

His testicles were hanging but there was no nut sack around them.

Horrible horrible accident. 



Horrible picture. And getting my son onto a PW50 now so great reminder of how important some stuff can be.

WRT 790 tank, the 990 tank setup was similar, and plenty broke in offs. Not aware of any that caught alight.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on December 22, 2020, 09:14:31 am
Just noticed that KTM are allowing CFM (who are making the KTM stuff in China) to come out with their own version of this motor and bike which weighs much more and costs much less than the KTM  (in Oz.)

PS. Am going to go for a ride with a man on a KTM990 after Xmas miles from anywhere. What's the chances it breaks down and he needs a pillion home like all the rides with a 990 in the past? 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2020, 09:36:43 am
Just noticed that KTM are allowing CFM (who are making the KTM stuff in China) to come out with their own version of this motor and bike which weighs much more and costs much less than the KTM  (in Oz.)

PS. Am going to go for a ride with a man on a KTM990 after Xmas miles from anywhere. What's the chances it breaks down and he needs a pillion home like all the rides with a 990 in the past? 

Jammer meneer, ek sal n versys se gat lek om by my 990 te hou offroad, 1000 of 650
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on December 22, 2020, 09:53:56 am
Big Soil en 2SD is besig met `n Zoom meeting.
Hulle strategie is heel opgedonner deur daai Chicco ou.....

No amount of Yamaha's breaking down can make the 790 reliable. Only KTm can, themselves, without the Indo-Chinese.

So, no, Chicco did not donner up our strategy, as discussed by zoom. :thumleft:

Ja, true.  It is however also true for BMW and you happily dragged them into the conversation.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on December 22, 2020, 10:08:51 am
Even worse than you imagined m0lt3n. I'll be using a Kawasaki KLX250.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2020, 10:18:04 am
Even worse than you imagined m0lt3n. I'll be using a Kawasaki KLX250.

haha no, that will have a suspension and will keep up perfectly well enough.
current riding buddy has a honda 250, I cant get lazy or I will have to play catch-up
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 10:48:53 am
I was riding yesterday with two friends with 790's, I've ridden a few trips with them before. They both love them despite the fact that both have experienced some or most of the troubles mentioned on this thread, especially the rear shocks. And they are both disgusted with the poor dealer service with regard to replacement spares availability even under warrantee.

And yet they still love them. I can well understand them loving the way they ride, even though I haven't managed to get a ride  :( I can still see for myself the way they disdainfully make light of the terrain, but I'm not sure myself if this is enough to compensate for the obvious drawbacks of ownership.  :-\

Must say I dont get it, the average 790R owner abuses the bike twice as much as any other owner, but we expect the bike to even be more reliable?
You can make anything reliable if you make it slow enough, my current favorite quote and very applicable.


This reminds me, I learned to ride on the old 1200GS (broke it), then got 1190R, broke it and upgraded the suspension, got a random 1200GS again to sell for a profit, first ride on the whoops behind my house I pop a fork seal with a nasty clack, hits the 1190R could then take with a smile, repeatedly.
Eventually I broke the 1190R again (and an Excel rim), with even harder hits, cause the goal posts were moved.




Take away all these breakdowns and perceived issues on the 790R, and you will find the next weak-point in line, cause they will just be put through more abuse, and the same thread would still be created...

If the 790 indeed has such superior suspension and performance, how would the "average" owner manage to abuse them so much?? ;) :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 10:50:25 am
Big Soil en 2SD is besig met `n Zoom meeting.
Hulle strategie is heel opgedonner deur daai Chicco ou.....

No amount of Yamaha's breaking down can make the 790 reliable. Only KTm can, themselves, without the Indo-Chinese.

So, no, Chicco did not donner up our strategy, as discussed by zoom. :thumleft:

Ja, true.  It is however also true for BMW and you happily dragged them into the conversation.

Exactly why I would have dragged BMW into the conversation......
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on December 22, 2020, 10:58:17 am
Big Soil en 2SD is besig met `n Zoom meeting.
Hulle strategie is heel opgedonner deur daai Chicco ou.....

No amount of Yamaha's breaking down can make the 790 reliable. Only KTm can, themselves, without the Indo-Chinese.

So, no, Chicco did not donner up our strategy, as discussed by zoom. :thumleft:

Ja, true.  It is however also true for BMW and you happily dragged them into the conversation.

Exactly why I would have dragged BMW into the conversation......

So, BMW breaking down will fix the KTM?  Radical thought that!   :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 22, 2020, 01:19:44 pm
If the 790 indeed has such superior suspension and performance, how would the "average" owner manage to abuse them so much??

Oh, that's easy to answer  ;)
The 790 is SO good that the biggest onnosel inexperienced clumsy twit, and here I myself may well serve as an example, will hammer the bike unlike anything he's ridden before because the bike makes it all so efforless!  :thumleft:
If then he lubricates his throttle cables with course grinding paste instead of light MP grease (hey, I keep them in the same tin, and we all drink at times don't we?) then your abuse becomes even more so.... and note that you did not mention 'on purpose' hmm?
 :lol8:

Seriously Dan, you've ever ridden a 790, and I mean off for a bit instead of around your garage?
This is a ~200kg bike which is THE example for the statement that "the weight disappears when riding" or "it handles almost like a plastic"  :thumleft:
If not we'll rectify such soon!  :P
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: ETS on December 22, 2020, 02:42:26 pm
So. What have we here. One disgruntled customer and now all 790's are kak? I'm not saying the bike is perfect, buttt how many people are dissatisfied with their 790's?
Mine has had a few troubles butttt not enough to warrant moaning
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Odd Dog on December 22, 2020, 03:50:54 pm
 :ricky:

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 73 Peanut on December 22, 2020, 04:02:32 pm
Please guys keep in mind that both bikes are adventure bikes and not motocross or enduro bikes . I break and crash every bike I ride but accept the fact that if you ride it where it is not designed to go it will break . Adventure bikes aren't designed to be thrashed all the time . T700 has a fantastic motor and a lbw so it will be great on long gravel highways.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 04:06:23 pm
So. What have we here. One disgruntled customer and now all 790's are kak? I'm not saying the bike is perfect, buttt how many people are dissatisfied with their 790's?
Mine has had a few troubles butttt not enough to warrant moaning

This is the thing about KTM ownership.

It's like LandRover and Alfa guys.  You find a Landrover owner that ever complains about his vehicle, yet Landies have probably the worst reliability record in the automotive world.

I get that the 790 may go so well that owners do not mind cutting short trips due to shocks bursting their seals, or sandpapering clutchplates over weekends, like on old brit bikes.

BUT......imagine if they went this well, and they went that long? :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on December 22, 2020, 04:10:32 pm
So. What have we here. One disgruntled customer and now all 790's are kak? I'm not saying the bike is perfect, buttt how many people are dissatisfied with their 790's?
Mine has had a few troubles butttt not enough to warrant moaning

This is the thing about KTM ownership.

It's like LandRover and Alfa guys.  You find a Landrover owner that ever complains about his vehicle, yet Landies have probably the worst reliability record in the automotive world.

I get that the 790 may go so well that owners do not mind cutting short trips due to shocks bursting their seals, or sandpapering clutchplates over weekends, like on old brit bikes.

BUT......imagine if they went this well, and they went that long? :biggrin:

They can and do! Just buy the right one!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 04:20:04 pm
So. What have we here. One disgruntled customer and now all 790's are kak? I'm not saying the bike is perfect, buttt how many people are dissatisfied with their 790's?
Mine has had a few troubles butttt not enough to warrant moaning

This is the thing about KTM ownership.

It's like LandRover and Alfa guys.  You find a Landrover owner that ever complains about his vehicle, yet Landies have probably the worst reliability record in the automotive world.

I get that the 790 may go so well that owners do not mind cutting short trips due to shocks bursting their seals, or sandpapering clutchplates over weekends, like on old brit bikes.

BUT......imagine if they went this well, and they went that long? :biggrin:

They can and do! Just buy the right one!

I agree, but the 790 has just too many complaints against it.

The cable clutch was a first thing I noticed and realised this is a step back for KTM.  Costcutting. Made in Indo-China. :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 04:21:28 pm
I would actually not feel all that relaxed about a fuel tank that's showing stress cracks.

It does contain a highly flammable liquid. This could actually have very serious implications in responsible markets, like the US and EU.

so after repeated hits, same hits that would take out a radiator and leave you stranded on most other bike designs, and then showing stress fractures (not leaking) this is still a bad design?

The stress-cracking is not about poor design, it is simply poor quality.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on December 22, 2020, 04:54:16 pm
So. What have we here. One disgruntled customer and now all 790's are kak? I'm not saying the bike is perfect, buttt how many people are dissatisfied with their 790's?
Mine has had a few troubles butttt not enough to warrant moaning

This is the thing about KTM ownership.

It's like LandRover and Alfa guys.  You find a Landrover owner that ever complains about his vehicle, yet Landies have probably the worst reliability record in the automotive world.

I get that the 790 may go so well that owners do not mind cutting short trips due to shocks bursting their seals, or sandpapering clutchplates over weekends, like on old brit bikes.

BUT......imagine if they went this well, and they went that long? :biggrin:

They can and do! Just buy the right one!

I agree, but the 790 has just too many complaints against it.

The cable clutch was a first thing I noticed and realised this is a step back for KTM.  Costcutting. Made in Indo-China. :imaposer:

I hear you Dan but some would say cable is better because it can be fixed on the run anywhere in the world.

Also

The KTM hydraulic clutches are not without problems. The 640 and the 990's have a long history of master and slave issues.


Personally I dont give a shit. My biggest issues are always suspensions that are made for fitment on delivery bikes. Large waffer banks and decent valves in suspension can make it both comfortable and capable in most situations. But bean counters and below average test riders seem to have the last say. Rather spend money on window dressing and fancy dashes.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 07:27:09 pm
I personally like a cable clutch, only problem is that it needs regular lubing.

The cable itself also need to be of a good quality.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bill the Bong on December 22, 2020, 08:02:45 pm
I personally like a cable clutch, only problem is that it needs regular lubing.

The cable itself also need to be of a good quality.

I also prefer cable clutches, because over the last 3 weeks I have repaired 4 KTM/Husky masters and/or slaves.  But my bikes with cable clutches have these new-fangled Teflon lined jobs.  Never need lubing, in fact, lube it once and you have to keep on lubing it.  But in terms of 790s: I believe if it looks wrong, it is wrong.  And those droopy tanks look wrong.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 22, 2020, 08:09:53 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on December 22, 2020, 08:17:00 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 08:21:40 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Yamaha is a holy cow...... :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 22, 2020, 09:08:44 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Yamaha is a holy cow...... :biggrin:

Maar hy kom nie uit Indie nie?.... ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 22, 2020, 09:53:17 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Yamaha is a holy cow...... :biggrin:

Maar hy kom nie uit Indie nie?.... ;)

Norrafok. :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on December 23, 2020, 02:22:45 am
Yamaha is a holy cow

Maar hy kom nie uit Indie nie?

Eerlik gese dink ek dis die antwoord van die jaar  :thumleft:

 :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 23, 2020, 07:25:05 am

If the 790 indeed has such superior suspension and performance, how would the "average" owner manage to abuse them so much?? ;) :ricky:

It does not take much skill to hit rocks at too high a speed and leave it to the bike's suspension to sort out...
Or hit a ditch and think that was nothing to be concerned about I can hit the next one harder....increase speed until the bike feels unsettled or something breaks.





Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Yamaha is a holy cow...... :biggrin:

Maar hy kom nie uit Indie nie?.... ;)

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 08:09:22 am

If the 790 indeed has such superior suspension and performance, how would the "average" owner manage to abuse them so much?? ;) :ricky:

It does not take much skill to hit rocks at too high a speed and leave it to the bike's suspension to sort out...
Or hit a ditch and think that was nothing to be concerned about I can hit the next one harder....increase speed until the bike feels unsettled or something breaks.


Not even the best set-up enduro bike will hit a rock "at too high a speed", and simply sort it out. It always throws a bike off-line, and unsettles the chassis.

Read your own words again, how will a 790's rims survive your scenario of "hitting the next ditch even harder"?? :imaposer: Especially with the on-the-limit rear shock seals? :imaposer: :imaposer:





Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Yamaha is a holy cow...... :biggrin:

Maar hy kom nie uit Indie nie?.... ;)

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on December 23, 2020, 08:23:19 am
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 23, 2020, 08:25:30 am
2SD:
"Not even the best set-up enduro bike will hit a rock "at too high a speed", and simply sort it out. It always throws a bike off-line, and unsettles the chassis.

Read your own words again, how will a 790's rims survive your scenario of "hitting the next ditch even harder"?? :imaposer: Especially with the on-the-limit rear shock seals? :imaposer: :imaposer:"

Struggling to see if this is you stirring again
too high a speed is relative, higher than it would have with poorer suspension is "too high a speed"


and ditches havent broken my rims, it has in the past bottomed out my suspension and broken other stuff. With tyres at high pressure you will manage a fairly hard hit before breaking the rim anyway, and on top of that, most owners wont complain if the rim is shot and just upgrade it like on any other bike anyhow.
rear shock seals...you are trying a bit to hard there...there was a weak batch, and ktm pays the repair anyhow



taking hard hits is where the 790 will outshine the t7 the most. Its oversprung with people weighing less than 100kg having to take out all preload and go low on compression settings. This also gives it the harsh ride.
2SD you yourself just said the 43mm tubes on the T7 will have less friction will have better compliance on smooth gravel.
The T7 is undersprung, with even 80kg riders needing stiffer springs, this is not brand bashing, fitting springs for your weight is normal, but most riders dont.

so most riders will baby the T7 because you will bottom out on the hard hits and most riders will not have to baby the 790 but to the contrary feel the bike beg for harder hits because thats where it shines.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 23, 2020, 08:29:30 am
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)


Tyre kicker kan jy darm die ironie in jou antwoord hier sien?
Speel die bal as iemand iets teen die yank gese het? jy grap seker, gaan bietjie op ons resident yank se profiel in en kyk sy comments, die man het n talent om mense sleg te se. No jokes, dit is next level. Ek is al lank op die forum, nog geen persoon ooit was al op daai level so konsekwent en verbeeldingryk met beledigings nie.


en watse feite het hy neer gesit? mense wat moan sonder konteks is nie feite nie...
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on December 23, 2020, 08:53:53 am
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)


Tyre kicker kan jy darm die ironie in jou antwoord hier sien?
Speel die bal as iemand iets teen die yank gese het? jy grap seker, gaan bietjie op ons resident yank se profiel in en kyk sy comments, die man het n talent om mense sleg te se. No jokes, dit is next level. Ek is al lank op die forum, nog geen persoon ooit was al op daai level so konsekwent en verbeeldingryk met beledigings nie.


en watse feite het hy neer gesit? mense wat moan sonder konteks is nie feite nie...

Almal op die forum is geregtig om sy 2c te gee en almal doen dit nou en dan en daar word ook baie bike en brand bashing ook gedoen wat ook ok is maar as Big Oil iets sÍ dan klim sekere mense klokslag op hul perdtjie en wil dan net die man uit haal.

Sy manier om goed te sÍ is uitlokkend en ook soms dubbelsinnig maar as jy 'n Amerikaner reg verstaan sal jy weet hulle is uitgeproke en kras maar dit is in hulle natuur daarom sÍ ek speel die bal en nie die man wat die bal het nie.

As iemand soos oom 2SDan byvoorbeeld presies sou sÍ wat Big Oil sou sÍ sou niemand eers daaroor frons nie  en waarskynlik skerts daaroor maar omdat Big Oil 'n Yank is weet hy te veel en is hy sommer 'n P@#pol.
Ek sÍ NEE, ek dink die man is moerse intilligent om mee te begin en as mense net luister na wat hy sÍ en nie hoe hy dit sÍ nie sal hy nie so in die moeilikheid beland met sy manier om homself te verdedig nie en hy sal ook minder geban word.

Dit is regtig nie moeilik om mense te beledig en name te noem nie maar dit is ook nie altyd die uitweg om dit te doen nie. :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on December 23, 2020, 09:07:47 am
If you don't like a motorbike, or a particular thing about it, then say so and give your reasons or even just say that it's rubbish without having a rational reason.

There's bound to be someone else who disagrees with you and wants to argue about it but there's no need to develop a personal animosity such that the law of crimen injuria is tested, and only the width of the ocean stands in the way of fisticuffs!

I say this because I like having our American friend here on the forum and it's disappointing when he gets banned again. I enjoy the writings and pictures about his homeland even though I'm not so into huge 4x4's and find it difficult to fathom what's to like about cold weather!  :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: GravelFox on December 23, 2020, 09:12:41 am
Looks like the Chinese (CFMoto) are continuing with the 790 engine. The bike has strong resemblance to other brands such as BMW and Truimph.

https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/cfmoto-mt800-revealed-in-leaked-designs/


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 23, 2020, 09:25:52 am
7:55, first ride on 890 clutch cable already stretched  >:D

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 05:03:50 pm
KTM, I believe, is missing vital signs in our mid/post covid world.

People are going to be increasingly on the lookout for better quality, even if it is a tad more expensive.  Like my grandpa buying an expensive jacket, and keeping it for a lifetime.

KTM is going the Western world's way of the last few years, where a manufacturer sacrifices quality for more profit.

This WILL bite them in the arse over the long term.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 23, 2020, 05:18:55 pm
KTM, I believe, is missing vital signs in our mid/post covid world.

People are going to be increasingly on the lookout for better quality, even if it is a tad more expensive.  Like my grandpa buying an expensive jacket, and keeping it for a lifetime.

KTM is going the Western world's way of the last few years, where a manufacturer sacrifices quality for more profit.

This WILL bite them in the arse over the long term.
My Alfa had a total of 4 pages the dealer could stamp for services, it also told you how to ďdisposeĒ of the car after a while. Toyotaís ďbook of lifeĒ has 10 x the amount of pages  ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 05:33:42 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 23, 2020, 05:47:41 pm
Just waiting for the Weetbix suspension to fail but itís been years of trouble free motoring
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chopperpilot on December 23, 2020, 06:07:48 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 23, 2020, 06:41:54 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)

Feite reken jy?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 23, 2020, 06:45:00 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 23, 2020, 06:47:34 pm
KTM, I believe, is missing vital signs in our mid/post covid world.

People are going to be increasingly on the lookout for better quality, even if it is a tad more expensive.  Like my grandpa buying an expensive jacket, and keeping it for a lifetime.

KTM is going the Western world's way of the last few years, where a manufacturer sacrifices quality for more profit.

This WILL bite them in the arse over the long term.

Laat ons weet wanneer jou long term tydperk in werking kom, want KTM se groei in verskope verskil van jou opinie.
Terloops, daar het nog `n KTM dealer in Paarl oopgemaak, waar jy jou 300 en 701 kan laat diens, terwyl jy Yamaha skree uit volle bors.
Miskien word `n capable  shock wat begin lek, verkies bo `n shock wat jou in die hospitaal; of lykshuis sit....... ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on December 23, 2020, 08:38:52 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 23, 2020, 08:40:23 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)

"A midget held together with screws because he can't ride, one that would need a stepladder to mount a T7, comes out of nowhere with personal insults."

As ek `n mod was, sal ek jou vriend geban het lewenslank, Sonder `n opsie om terug tekom. Sonder om te twyfel.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bundu on December 23, 2020, 09:19:31 pm
 :lol8: :lol8:  eish, I've had many verbal 'battles' with big oil and we've insulted each other enough to get the both of us banned for periods, but I still think he's not a bad oke when medicated properly  ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 09:45:30 pm
KTM, I believe, is missing vital signs in our mid/post covid world.

People are going to be increasingly on the lookout for better quality, even if it is a tad more expensive.  Like my grandpa buying an expensive jacket, and keeping it for a lifetime.

KTM is going the Western world's way of the last few years, where a manufacturer sacrifices quality for more profit.

This WILL bite them in the arse over the long term.

Laat ons weet wanneer jou long term tydperk in werking kom, want KTM se groei in verskope verskil van jou opinie.
Terloops, daar het nog `n KTM dealer in Paarl oopgemaak, waar jy jou 300 en 701 kan laat diens, terwyl jy Yamaha skree uit volle bors.
Miskien word `n capable  shock wat begin lek, verkies bo `n shock wat jou in die hospitaal; of lykshuis sit....... ;)

Ja, my 701 se shock het my twee femurs gekos........
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 09:49:14 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chopperpilot on December 23, 2020, 09:51:01 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Groot waarheid!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chopperpilot on December 23, 2020, 09:56:43 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Ek hoef nie jou sussie te spyker om te weet ek wil haar nie naai nie.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 10:06:01 pm
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....
Die persoon wat die T7 reŽl ingestel het, het persoonlik nog geensins iets gemeld van die 790R in die T7 draad nie.

Verskillende fietse, wat verskillende ryers gaan aantrek.

Die T7 is darem sexy!

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Ek hoef nie jou sussie te spyker om te weet ek wil haar nie naai nie.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bundu on December 23, 2020, 10:07:00 pm
kry 'n yank se thread en die reaksie is........  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 10:12:11 pm
kry 'n yank se thread en die reaksie is........  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Wie is so dom om eens te probeer om n hoender aan te jaag??

n Hoender kom self hok toe, wanneer die tyd reg is.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 23, 2020, 10:15:30 pm
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bundu on December 23, 2020, 10:18:45 pm
kry 'n yank se thread en die reaksie is........  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Wie is so dom om eens te probeer om n hoender aan te jaag??

n Hoender kom self hok toe, wanneer die tyd reg is.
lyk nie of dit hier gebeur nie - die group think oorweldig die hoenders.... KTM! Ready to Race!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 10:19:15 pm
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?

Maar in 6 bladsye het die KTM baie meer foute as wat die T7 in 200 kan he. :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 23, 2020, 10:20:09 pm
kry 'n yank se thread en die reaksie is........  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Wie is so dom om eens te probeer om n hoender aan te jaag??

n Hoender kom self hok toe, wanneer die tyd reg is.
lyk nie of dit hier gebeur nie - die group think oorweldig die hoenders.... KTM! Ready to Race!

KTM hoenders........ek like dit. :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 23, 2020, 10:28:05 pm
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?

Maar in 6 bladsye het die KTM baie meer foute as wat die T7 in 200 kan he. :thumleft:

 :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: ETS on December 24, 2020, 09:36:22 am
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?

Maar in 6 bladsye het die KTM baie meer foute as wat die T7 in 200 kan he. :thumleft:

 :peepwall:

Hoe de fk kan die T7 foute he as niemand een kan he\koop nie  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on December 24, 2020, 09:43:57 am
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?

Maar in 6 bladsye het die KTM baie meer foute as wat die T7 in 200 kan he. :thumleft:

 :peepwall:

Hoe de fk kan die T7 foute he as niemand een kan he\koop nie  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Dit is sy grootste fout
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on December 24, 2020, 09:56:06 am
Almal op die forum is geregtig om sy 2c te gee

Sy manier om goed te sÍ is uitlokkend en ook soms dubbelsinnig maar as jy 'n Amerikaner reg verstaan sal jy weet hulle is uitgeproke en kras maar dit is in hulle natuur daarom sÍ ek speel die bal en nie die man wat die bal het nie.

As iemand soos oom 2SDan byvoorbeeld presies sou sÍ wat Big Oil sou sÍ sou niemand eers daaroor frons nie 

Yes almal is geregtig, so ek gee my 2c

en dit is jy het een of ander hero worship hier of so iets snaaks want jy praat klomp bog

ek kyk nie wie se boodskap ek lees voor ek dit lees nie, en baie keer kyk ek sommer nooit wie het wat geskryf nie (so ek het al klomp keer stupid goed vir ervare manne gese en my naam geplank)
Maar dit beteken ook ek het n saak wie jy of ander is, ek reply orals.
En met hierdie benadering as mens so lees en gereeld moet stop, dink wat de hel het ek nou gelees, op scroll en sien dit is alweer die yank se beledegings dan herhaal ek maar dat dit wat jy hier kwytraak, ook so oomblik geskep het van stop, en wonder waar val die man nou uit
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on December 24, 2020, 09:56:32 am
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)

"A midget held together with screws because he can't ride, one that would need a stepladder to mount a T7, comes out of nowhere with personal insults."

As ek `n mod was, sal ek jou vriend geban het lewenslank, Sonder `n opsie om terug tekom. Sonder om te twyfel.

Nee wat daai was nie so erg nie en ek het die eerste shot gegooi om hom uit te lok. Eintlik verwag dit gaan erger wees  :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 24, 2020, 11:01:22 am
Vertel my hoe werk die:
Asj ywil kak kwyt raak oor n 700 Tenere mag jy nie tensy jy die ding gery het.
790 is open season.
En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Los die Yank uit!! Die feite wat hy gee spreek boekdele,  :deal:

Elke keer as Big Oil iets oor 'n KTM790 sÍ dan tref hy een moerse senuwee raak in Runner se gestel.

Jy ry mos ook self  'n KTM 790 so hoekom argumenteer jy nie met feite teenoor sy feite wat hy hier stel nie.

Doen dit sommer ook in Engels sodat die man kan verstaan as jy hom sleg sÍ. :-[

Speel die bal en nie die man nie of bly dan maar net stil as jy niks goed het om te sÍ nie. ;)

"A midget held together with screws because he can't ride, one that would need a stepladder to mount a T7, comes out of nowhere with personal insults."

As ek `n mod was, sal ek jou vriend geban het lewenslank, Sonder `n opsie om terug tekom. Sonder om te twyfel.

Nee wat daai was nie so erg nie en ek het die eerste shot gegooi om hom uit te lok. Eintlik verwag dit gaan erger wees  :lol8:

Yes, Dwerg, we ride bikes, we don't play ping-pong.  :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 24, 2020, 11:04:56 am
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?

Maar in 6 bladsye het die KTM baie meer foute as wat die T7 in 200 kan he. :thumleft:

 :peepwall:

Hoe de fk kan die T7 foute he as niemand een kan he\koop nie  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Hulle is al topverkopers in segment vir n jaar, Oom ETS. :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: ETS on December 24, 2020, 11:18:25 am
Daai fokken T700 fred trek al by 200 bladsye om vir almal te oortuig hoe great die bike is, die fred is maar op bladsy 6 om te sÍ hoe kak 'n 790 is, laat mens wonder wie is die insecureste?

Maar in 6 bladsye het die KTM baie meer foute as wat die T7 in 200 kan he. :thumleft:

 :peepwall:

Hoe de fk kan die T7 foute he as niemand een kan he\koop nie  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Hulle is al topverkopers in segment vir n jaar, Oom ETS. :thumleft:

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) nie in RSA nie??
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on December 24, 2020, 11:44:39 am
T7's al deur Afrika en word al hard gery vir 6 maande in OZ en nou VSA. As daar probleme was sou ons lank al gehoor het. O ja die dash wobble so bietjie maar dis eintlik meer n irritasie as n probleem  :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 24, 2020, 01:16:36 pm
T7's al deur Afrika en word al hard gery vir 6 maande in OZ en nou VSA. As daar probleme was sou ons lank al gehoor het. O ja die dash wobble so bietjie maar dis eintlik meer n irritasie as n probleem  :deal:

So die dash is soos oom Dan.......... :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: OomD on December 24, 2020, 01:44:02 pm
T7's al deur Afrika en word al hard gery vir 6 maande in OZ en nou VSA. As daar probleme was sou ons lank al gehoor het. O ja die dash wobble so bietjie maar dis eintlik meer n irritasie as n probleem  :deal:

So die dash is soos oom Dan.......... :peepwall:
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 24, 2020, 02:54:21 pm
T7's al deur Afrika en word al hard gery vir 6 maande in OZ en nou VSA. As daar probleme was sou ons lank al gehoor het. O ja die dash wobble so bietjie maar dis eintlik meer n irritasie as n probleem  :deal:

So die dash is soos oom Dan.......... :peepwall:

Wobble ek so bietjie of is ek meer n irritasie? :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on December 24, 2020, 03:17:17 pm
Die Stellenbosch manne is raakvatters.
Ons het vir oom Dan en Gideon.
Jy lol nie met die manne nie.
O ja en dan daai een ou wat homself gaan afruk het in die gym maar hy tel nie. :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on December 24, 2020, 03:20:53 pm
T7's al deur Afrika en word al hard gery vir 6 maande in OZ en nou VSA. As daar probleme was sou ons lank al gehoor het. O ja die dash wobble so bietjie maar dis eintlik meer n irritasie as n probleem  :deal:

So die dash is soos oom Dan.......... :peepwall:

Wobble ek so bietjie of is ek meer n irritasie? :imaposer:

.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 24, 2020, 06:32:47 pm
Die Stellenbosch manne is raakvatters.
Ons het vir oom Dan en Gideon.
Jy lol nie met die manne nie.
O ja en dan daai een ou wat homself gaan afruk het in die gym maar hy tel nie. :lol8:

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: GhostSixFour on January 26, 2021, 11:03:58 am


Saw this today.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 26, 2021, 11:45:08 am
The 790 is a fantastic chassis, with a high-powered engine.

It is a real pity it could not be built by someone with the needed integrity to make it reliable.

It is also a pity that KTM buyers do not see that for profit margins, they are being thrown to India and China.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on January 26, 2021, 12:00:40 pm


Saw this today.
Man those brake rotors look dodgy AF

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on January 26, 2021, 12:14:10 pm
:pottytrain5:

Another oil spill.... ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TeeJay on January 26, 2021, 12:27:57 pm
So is Big Oil "forgiven" now  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on January 26, 2021, 07:47:13 pm

Man those brake rotors discs look dodgy AF

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Fixed.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on January 27, 2021, 10:30:52 am
This thread is now useless, can we please start a 890 thread.... :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on January 27, 2021, 10:42:24 am


Saw this today.
I'm sure all this was fixed with the 890  :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on January 28, 2021, 12:23:33 am
Daai is minor details.

As hul nou nog nie die 690 se airbox gefix het nie, dan is die kans tussen 0 en geen

Is maar goed so, anders het ou BigDan en 2StrokeOil niks om oor te teem nie.

:pot:

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chopperpilot on January 28, 2021, 04:52:09 am


Saw this today.
I'm sure all this was fixed with the 890  :peepwall:
Is the 890 made in Austria?

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 22, 2021, 10:14:13 am
Ladies and gentlemen, come one, come all, introducing the star of our show, the eighth wonder of the world, KTMís 890.  KTMís answer to the problematic 790, all the issues with the 790 have been identified, addressed, and rectified.  Customers and dealerships neednít concern themselves with our bikes manufactured in Ghina, with components from Indian and Chink land.

Oh wait.  Kiss my ivory ass, I give you yet another piece of monkey shit, the 890, aka, the Slant-eyed-Surprise:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210222/1671398bc510e0cb1d48fd3e5eed5a0b.jpg)


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 22, 2021, 10:18:20 am
Welcome back.
Oom Dan will be in 7th heaven now.
Carry on boys.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 22, 2021, 10:21:46 am
Oh wait, thereís more; software issues on a new 2021 890R.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210222/6abb530426566a0a2241c896412ba3c5.jpg)


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 22, 2021, 10:28:52 am
We have rectified the issues with the leaking rear shock absorber on the new 2021 890R. ~ KTM Austria


Well shit my pants and call me stinky.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210222/8c53dc98003e5a37ae0e778e48324bbb.jpg)


Didnít even make it home from the Stealership before experiencing a pissing shock.  Buyer returns to stealership and observes 2 zero mileage 890Rís with pissing shocks!


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on February 22, 2021, 10:38:16 am
You love stirring shit innit?
The clutch will be fine, the idiot (or his neighbour/mechanic/why) just needs to install his aftermarket clutch lever correct.
But yeah, that makes for a kak bike hmm?  ::)

'Merican forum perhaps?
Would go a long way to explaining this, same like the hasty copy&paste reporting you do....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on February 22, 2021, 10:42:18 am
Ladies and gentlemen, come one, come all, introducing the star of our show, the eighth wonder of the world, KTMís 890.  KTMís answer to the problematic 790, all the issues with the 790 have been identified, addressed, and rectified.  Customers and dealerships neednít concern themselves with our bikes manufactured in Ghina, with components from Indian and Chink land.

Oh wait.  Kiss my ivory ass, I give you yet another piece of monkey shit, the 890, aka, the Slant-eyed-Surprise:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210222/1671398bc510e0cb1d48fd3e5eed5a0b.jpg)


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Hi Big Oil, you will be pleased to know that the KTM 790 and 890 has been banned from our Motorbike club, all members who own a piece of this shit was suspended with immediate effect due to the safety issues and bad reputation, we as the Cunning Stunts Motorbike steering committee can no longer assosiate the club with these bikes.  :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on February 22, 2021, 01:52:33 pm
Cunning Stunt or Stunning cnut?

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on February 22, 2021, 02:37:51 pm
You love stirring shit innit?
The clutch will be fine, the idiot (or his neighbour/mechanic/why) just needs to install his aftermarket clutch lever correct.
But yeah, that makes for a kak bike hmm?  ::)

'Merican forum perhaps?
Would go a long way to explaining this, same like the hasty copy&paste reporting you do....

And what is your take on the brand new oil pissing shocks on the stealers show room floor that you chose not to mention ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on February 22, 2021, 02:42:29 pm
You love stirring shit innit?
The clutch will be fine, the idiot (or his neighbour/mechanic/why) just needs to install his aftermarket clutch lever correct.
But yeah, that makes for a kak bike hmm?  ::)

'Merican forum perhaps?
Would go a long way to explaining this, same like the hasty copy&paste reporting you do....

And what is your take on the brand new oil pissing shocks on the stealers show room floor that you chose not to mention ;)

Quite obvious that some off these bikes have problems, not all as some guys are happy and not experiencing the same, but the guys are not all that happy when it gets pointed out.  ::)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on February 22, 2021, 02:47:57 pm
Shock is apparently not suitable for those fat-ass 'Mericans

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 22, 2021, 02:53:14 pm
You love stirring shit innit?
The clutch will be fine, the idiot (or his neighbour/mechanic/why) just needs to install his aftermarket clutch lever correct.
But yeah, that makes for a kak bike hmm?  ::)

'Merican forum perhaps?
Would go a long way to explaining this, same like the hasty copy&paste reporting you do....

And what is your take on the brand new oil pissing shocks on the stealers show room floor that you chose not to mention ;)

Quite obvious that some off these bikes have problems, not all as some guys are happy and not experiencing the same, but the guys are not all that happy when it gets pointed out.  ::)

I thought it would be quite obvious that their is a better  way these problems can get pointed out.
Some people try and make the world better.
Some people seek attention.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 22, 2021, 03:57:35 pm
Shock is apparently not suitable for those fat-ass 'Mericans

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So they leak on the showroom floor in anticipation of a fat rider. :imaposer: :imaposer:

KTM ran from the frying pan into the fire, it seems.

Be a great KTM fan, that is fine, I love the 300 and will also defend it, but by Jove, perhaps start to see that the 7/890 seem to be not quite up to standard?

And I'm talking INdian standards, it seems to be up to Chinese standards, as a friend once could not get out of the showroom on his brand-new Kazuma scooter, drivebelt broke right there. :3some:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on February 22, 2021, 05:14:35 pm
You love stirring shit innit?
The clutch will be fine, the idiot (or his neighbour/mechanic/why) just needs to install his aftermarket clutch lever correct.
But yeah, that makes for a kak bike hmm?  ::)

'Merican forum perhaps?
Would go a long way to explaining this, same like the hasty copy&paste reporting you do....

And what is your take on the brand new oil pissing shocks on the stealers show room floor that you chose not to mention ;)

Quite obvious that some off these bikes have problems, not all as some guys are happy and not experiencing the same, but the guys are not all that happy when it gets pointed out.  ::)

I thought it would be quite obvious that their is a better  way these problems can get pointed out.
Some people try and make the world better.
Some people seek attention.

Some people just won't accept the truth and don't like their feelings to be hurt and quite often it is just a case of potential buyers remorse or unfortunately at times even real buyers remorse but they just won't admit it. >:D

What better way for problems to be pointed out than with a factual photograph depicting a brand new bike's leaking shock in a dealership where no rider abuse nor interference with it has caused it or created it.  :-[
There are no other reasons or excuses for the leaking shock on several new bikes other than it being a serious quality problem. :-[

How much more evidence do you need than several brand new bikes being photographed with their shocks leaking, electronics failing etc?  ;)

Is it a case of the footage and reality of the matter being too much for us to digest or even comprehend as I bet you are unlikely to see many such pics popping up here in ZA before we see them occur in the States and Europe purely as a result of our market share versus the size of theirs. :o

Just remember that it is impossible to Bullshit a Horse Fly!!!! :biggrin:




Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 22, 2021, 05:19:41 pm
KTM is the new BMW.

I remember, the more I pointed out things wrong on Beemers, the more their riders protested.

Now some worry about me being in heaven, while they should worry about themselves being in KTM hell. :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: XRRX on February 22, 2021, 05:46:19 pm
Well I'm not going to dive into this argument, as I have zero experience with a 790, except seeing one with 5000odd keys using lots of oil...
Nevertheless, the fact that KTM suddenly struggles to get rid of the last 790's do say something, and not something good at all...
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on February 22, 2021, 05:48:52 pm
KTM is the new BMW.

I remember, the more I pointed out things wrong on Beemers, the more their riders protested.

Now some worry about me being in heaven, while they should worry about themselves being in KTM hell. :pot:


The new BMW.

Does this mean parts off the shelf or delivery within two days at most, even for obsolete 18 year old bikes?

And welcome back, migrant visitor.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on February 22, 2021, 06:54:21 pm
Shock is apparently not suitable for those fat-ass 'Mericans

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So they leak on the showroom floor in anticipation of a fat rider. :imaposer: :imaposer:

KTM ran from the frying pan into the fire, it seems.

Be a great KTM fan, that is fine, I love the 300 and will also defend it, but by Jove, perhaps start to see that the 7/890 seem to be not quite up to standard?

And I'm talking INdian standards, it seems to be up to Chinese standards, as a friend once could not get out of the showroom on his brand-new Kazuma scooter, drivebelt broke right there. :3some:
I was joking about the overweight tire kickers on the showroom floor.

I totally agree
Given its current track record of issues + already superceded by an 890, there is no way that I will buy a 790.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: RedWolf on February 22, 2021, 07:46:17 pm
I loved the concept from the first launch pics of the 790 and thought I will buy one. Well life happened and I was looking for something unique and bought a Triumph Scrambler 1200XE. With the release of the 890 I thought of selling the Triumph and buying a 890R. I had a few KTMís in the past and enjoyed the performance and offroad capabilities. Well, it seems I will rather wait another year or two to see if KTM sort out the 890R. The first 690Rís had major electrical issues, but with time it evolved into a very nice bike. Unfortunately, KTM seem to have teething issues on new models and I really donít like being a part of their reliabilty study. I do however think that once their bikes are sorted, there are really nothing else to compare it to in terms of smiles per miles.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 23, 2021, 03:58:43 am
Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth, because they don't want their illusions destroyed!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on February 23, 2021, 06:24:01 am
People just love it when others insist on constantly shitting all over their dream bike just to get some attention. Look at all the GS riders who left the community or stopped contributing
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 23, 2021, 07:45:43 am
Perspective buyers need to be informed, Imo.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on February 23, 2021, 08:17:13 am
I loved the concept from the first launch pics of the 790 and thought I will buy one. Well life happened and I was looking for something unique and bought a Triumph Scrambler 1200XE. With the release of the 890 I thought of selling the Triumph and buying a 890R. I had a few KTMís in the past and enjoyed the performance and offroad capabilities. Well, it seems I will rather wait another year or two to see if KTM sort out the 890R. The first 690Rís had major electrical issues, but with time it evolved into a very nice bike. Unfortunately, KTM seem to have teething issues on new models and I really donít like being a part of their reliabilty study. I do however think that once their bikes are sorted, there are really nothing else to compare it to in terms of smiles per miles.

pics of said Triumph? DO you have a thread on it somewhere? Those are game changers, a scrambler with proper suspension
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: @offroad on February 23, 2021, 08:31:24 am
Perspective buyers need to be informed, Imo.

The point has long passed of keeping others informed - now it is just ego's.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: iamgigglz on February 23, 2021, 08:56:42 am
I loved the concept from the first launch pics of the 790 and thought I will buy one. Well life happened and I was looking for something unique and bought a Triumph Scrambler 1200XE.

I wonder if that was yours I was looking at on 4th Ave yesterday  :patch:
Great looking bike with beefy ÷hlins all round  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bill the Bong on February 23, 2021, 09:01:34 am
KTM is the new BMW.

I remember, the more I pointed out things wrong on Beemers, the more their riders protested.

Now some worry about me being in heaven, while they should worry about themselves being in KTM hell. :pot:




The new BMW.

Does this mean parts off the shelf or delivery within two days at most, even for obsolete 18 year old bikes?

And welcome back, migrant visitor.  :biggrin:

Joh, quite the statement.  Try 10 days for 3 valve shims for a F800GS, 6 weeks for a tappet cover gasket (same bike) 8 months for a wiring harness for a 1200 GSA (had 8 loan bikes over the time, put 15000km on the loaners).  Last week: KTM 990 valve cover gaskets in stock at 2 dealerships.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 23, 2021, 09:31:00 am
Perspective buyers need to be informed, Imo.

The point has long passed of keeping others informed - now it is just ego's.

Try not to take it personally.  I'm a KTM fan, I've owned a few.  The public needs to be aware, Imo. 

I don't like to see people waste their hard earned money on poorly designed products and the 790 is a huge failure for KTM when it comes to warranty claims.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: ETS on February 23, 2021, 09:34:22 am
Perspective buyers need to be informed, Imo.

Agreed-- buttt if we listen to every negative comment nobody will buy any bike
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 23, 2021, 09:41:33 am
Yep.Life is about choices.
You can be toxic negative , or you can be pro active and write a nice open letter to KTM to encourage them to make their products even better.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: @offroad on February 23, 2021, 09:42:31 am
Perspective buyers need to be informed, Imo.

The point has long passed of keeping others informed - now it is just ego's.

Try not to take it personally.  I'm a KTM fan, I've owned a few.  The public needs to be aware, Imo. 

I don't like to see people waste their hard earned money on poorly designed products and the 790 is a huge failure for KTM when it comes to warranty claims.

I have no skin in the game so don't take it personally at all - just an interested observer.

I ride a GS after all.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on February 23, 2021, 10:03:47 am
Then, social media rants, there is always the Jacques Pauw phenomenon.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 23, 2021, 10:27:38 am
Then, social media rants, there is always the Jacques Pauw phenomenon.

Pffftt! Plaas hy eerder kos bestel by `n McDonalds drive thru, en net weg jaag sonder om te betaal.... :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on February 23, 2021, 10:51:50 am
Then, social media rants, there is always the Jacques Pauw phenomenon.

Pffftt! Plaas hy eerder kos bestel by `n McDonalds drive thru, en net weg jaag sonder om te betaal.... :peepwall:

Ek het eerder na die phenomeen van ernstig aandik verwys.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 23, 2021, 11:10:01 am
Then, social media rants, there is always the Jacques Pauw phenomenon.

Pffftt! Plaas hy eerder kos bestel by `n McDonalds drive thru, en net weg jaag sonder om te betaal.... :peepwall:

Ek het eerder na die phenomeen van ernstig aandik verwys.

Nee broer, ek is heeltemal met jou. Spot sommer.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on February 23, 2021, 11:11:42 am
Then, social media rants, there is always the Jacques Pauw phenomenon.

Pffftt! Plaas hy eerder kos bestel by `n McDonalds drive thru, en net weg jaag sonder om te betaal.... :peepwall:

Ek het eerder na die phenomeen van ernstig aandik verwys.

Nee broer, ek is heeltemal met jou. Spot sommer.

Ek was bekommerd oor jou.  Gedink jy dink mens kan Tequila by McDs koop!   >:D
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 23, 2021, 11:23:19 am
Then, social media rants, there is always the Jacques Pauw phenomenon.

Pffftt! Plaas hy eerder kos bestel by `n McDonalds drive thru, en net weg jaag sonder om te betaal.... :peepwall:

Ek het eerder na die phenomeen van ernstig aandik verwys.

Nee broer, ek is heeltemal met jou. Spot sommer.

Ek was bekommerd oor jou.  Gedink jy dink mens kan Tequila by McDs koop!   >:D

Nee jy moet jou eie saam vat, vra net vir `n skyfie suurlemoen by die venster... :patch:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chicco on February 23, 2021, 06:47:39 pm
This should settle it, with facts.....

KTM is k@K ...But not as K@k as BMW.... :imaposer:

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 23, 2021, 07:12:52 pm
This should settle it, with facts.....

KTM is k@K ...But not as K@k as BMW.... :imaposer:



I sold his wife, Tanya, that little MR.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: RedWolf on February 23, 2021, 08:19:13 pm
I loved the concept from the first launch pics of the 790 and thought I will buy one. Well life happened and I was looking for something unique and bought a Triumph Scrambler 1200XE. With the release of the 890 I thought of selling the Triumph and buying a 890R. I had a few KTMís in the past and enjoyed the performance and offroad capabilities. Well, it seems I will rather wait another year or two to see if KTM sort out the 890R. The first 690Rís had major electrical issues, but with time it evolved into a very nice bike. Unfortunately, KTM seem to have teething issues on new models and I really donít like being a part of their reliabilty study. I do however think that once their bikes are sorted, there are really nothing else to compare it to in terms of smiles per miles.

pics of said Triumph? DO you have a thread on it somewhere? Those are game changers, a scrambler with proper suspension
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: RedWolf on February 23, 2021, 08:23:15 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Saddle Up on February 23, 2021, 08:44:18 pm
This should settle it, with facts.....

KTM is k@K ...But not as K@k as BMW.... :imaposer:



Die man gorrel Oros
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Fransw on February 23, 2021, 08:58:07 pm
So wat is die verdict nou, is die 890 ook k@k?  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 23, 2021, 09:37:11 pm
So wat is die verdict nou, is die 890 ook k@k?  :thumleft:

Is dit n nuwe bike?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on February 24, 2021, 08:17:55 am
I loved the concept from the first launch pics of the 790 and thought I will buy one. Well life happened and I was looking for something unique and bought a Triumph Scrambler 1200XE. With the release of the 890 I thought of selling the Triumph and buying a 890R. I had a few KTMís in the past and enjoyed the performance and offroad capabilities. Well, it seems I will rather wait another year or two to see if KTM sort out the 890R. The first 690Rís had major electrical issues, but with time it evolved into a very nice bike. Unfortunately, KTM seem to have teething issues on new models and I really donít like being a part of their reliabilty study. I do however think that once their bikes are sorted, there are really nothing else to compare it to in terms of smiles per miles.

pics of said Triumph? DO you have a thread on it somewhere? Those are game changers, a scrambler with proper suspension

that looks very nice.
Dont you want to put a thread up on it? Write a review?
Except for crash protection, this bike seems to be pretty well suited for technical riding. That is a proper suspension on it and seat height is low.  There is a guy doing bike revies on youtube which does rally's with his. And doing well at it.


ktm bashers may carry on now, entertain yourself
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 24, 2021, 08:39:25 am
"ktm bashers" is misleading.

This thread is not intended to bash KTM motorcycles.  There's no doubt, according to data collected by such entities as Consumer Reports, KTM as a company is still quite a ways from Japanese reliability, and still behind Indian and Harley Davidson.

With the exception of the 790 and TPi 2-stroke long term reliability, KTM makes some damn good and fun motorcycles to ride.  Pre TPi 2-strokes and 4-stroke KTM dirt bikes from around 2000 on have a stellar reputation for being robust. 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 24, 2021, 08:43:42 am
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Mooi fiets! Jissie!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 24, 2021, 01:37:13 pm
Typical 790 experience; months in the repair shop waiting on parts.

I donít think thereís a bigger piece of junk sold today.


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on February 24, 2021, 03:44:30 pm
Well done for posting pics of the Triumph on a KTM thread, because it illustrates strikingly where everything has gone wrong.

Doesn't that Triumph just look so simply RIGHT? The way a motorbike used to look, and still should look. The headlamp. A simple single round lens not some stylist wanker's wet dream.

Compared to it everything else just looks stupid.  :patch: :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Gee S on February 24, 2021, 04:02:30 pm
Typical 790 experience; months in the repair shop waiting on parts.

I donít think thereís a bigger piece of junk sold today.


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I think all the "KAK" with the US bikes are caused by the out dated filament bulbs(globes) in their indicators  >:D >:D Here in SA we get modern LED indicators and we have very few bikes with any major issues :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: RedWolf on February 24, 2021, 06:41:44 pm
Well done for posting pics of the Triumph on a KTM thread, because it illustrates strikingly where everything has gone wrong.

Doesn't that Triumph just look so simply RIGHT? The way a motorbike used to look, and still should look. The headlamp. A simple single round lens not some stylist wanker's wet dream.

Compared to it everything else just looks stupid.  :patch: :deal:
Thanks

I wouldnít have done that, but was asked for pics. I have owned closed to 40 bikes (or maybe even a little more than 40) and usually sold my bikes after a few months just to get the next best thing. Well, the bike I owned the longest is actually this Triumph. It is just such a pure bike and an aboslute pleasure to ride. I have done a 4500km tour in November and enjoyed it a lot.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 24, 2021, 06:46:38 pm
"First bike I buy new and nothing but problems"

Should have invested 20 years of winning Dakar cost in a quality control section at the factory.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on February 25, 2021, 08:42:47 am
Well done for posting pics of the Triumph on a KTM thread, because it illustrates strikingly where everything has gone wrong.

Doesn't that Triumph just look so simply RIGHT? The way a motorbike used to look, and still should look. The headlamp. A simple single round lens not some stylist wanker's wet dream.

Compared to it everything else just looks stupid.  :patch: :deal:
Thanks

I wouldnít have done that, but was asked for pics. I have owned closed to 40 bikes (or maybe even a little more than 40) and usually sold my bikes after a few months just to get the next best thing. Well, the bike I owned the longest is actually this Triumph. It is just such a pure bike and an aboslute pleasure to ride. I have done a 4500km tour in November and enjoyed it a lot.

It was I who asked for the photo pics.
The actual KTM riders here dont really have issues and couldnt care less for the thread, and would, (and do) buy the same 790 again if given the choice, for a reason. Which should say a lot to prospective buyers.

anyhow....Redwolf I have more questions for your bike, do a bike review thread please man? There isnt many of those around
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 25, 2021, 09:19:15 am
Well done for posting pics of the Triumph on a KTM thread, because it illustrates strikingly where everything has gone wrong.

Doesn't that Triumph just look so simply RIGHT? The way a motorbike used to look, and still should look. The headlamp. A simple single round lens not some stylist wanker's wet dream.

Compared to it everything else just looks stupid.  :patch: :deal:

Triumph's Scrambler 1200 makes me weak in the knees, from an aesthetics standpoint, I'm not sure it's not the prettiest motorbike sold today.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roadhawg on February 25, 2021, 09:42:07 am
Can we change the name of this thread to "American bike mechanics are useless and incompetent" because that what it seems to be about. 

Seems if it isn't air cooled with a single pin crank and redline at 3200RPM and have a whopping 45freedom powers, they don't know where to start.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on February 25, 2021, 09:45:52 am
if it isn't air cooled with a single pin crank and redline at 3200RPM ...

 :lol8: :laughing4: :lol8: :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 25, 2021, 09:48:01 am
Can we change the name of this thread to "American bike mechanics are useless and incompetent" because that what it seems to be about. 

Seems if it isn't air cooled with a single pin crank and redline at 3200RPM and have a whopping 45freedom powers, they don't know where to start.

Very apt comment. Looks like the first challenge of uncrating and some simple assembly bowls them out and it all goes downhill from there.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 25, 2021, 10:10:06 am
Fellas, please, we are decades ahead and a much larger market.  Of course there's going to be more problematic bikes here.

It's not just here anyway, the 790 has been an abysmal failure when warranty claims are factored in. 

The public should be informed.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 25, 2021, 10:16:16 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 25, 2021, 10:21:18 am
Maybe keep the pressure washer away from the TFT screen  :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on February 25, 2021, 10:47:15 am
Fact is the KTM 790 has some problems and US being a big market will have more problem bikes than the SA ones. It would be interesting to know percentage wise how many bikes has problems in US/SA/Europe etc.  1% of US bikes is a lot more than 1% of SA bikes in numbers but a % is still a %. Then on the other hand it seems like KTM stealers in US and SA leave a lot to be desired when it comes to after sales service and parts supply, lots off guys here on the forum complain about it. Wonder if it is the same for European stealers?

It seems to me like the KTM is like an old Alfa, thrilling to ride/drive and gets the adrenaline going but always something that needs fixing.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roadhawg on February 25, 2021, 10:59:19 am
Fact is the KTM 790 has some problems and US being a big market will have more problem bikes than the SA ones. It would be interesting to know percentage wise how many bikes has problems in US/SA/Europe etc.  1% of US bikes is a lot more than 1% of SA bikes in numbers but a % is still a %. Then on the other hand it seems like KTM stealers in US and SA leave a lot to be desired when it comes to after sales service and parts supply, lots off guys here on the forum complain about it. Wonder if it is the same for European stealers?

It seems to me like the KTM is like an old Alfa, thrilling to ride/drive and gets the adrenaline going but always something that needs fixing.  :imaposer:

I've been amazed by the KTM dealers in SA actually.  I'm never left looking for parts, if the first dealer I phone doesnt have something, the 2nd one does, and either way any part is just a 2week wait as they're constantly bringing stuff in.   
In fact I bought a KTM branded Shoei because if I went to the regular bike gear shops, all the helmets had been sitting on shelves for like 2 years.  Buying one from KTM got me an actual NEW helmet (because they bring em in every 2 weeks when needed), and it cost less than a generic Shoei color.   Riddle me that!?  KTM SA seems to be very jacked.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 25, 2021, 11:43:28 am
Fact is the KTM 790 has some problems and US being a big market will have more problem bikes than the SA ones. It would be interesting to know percentage wise how many bikes has problems in US/SA/Europe etc.  1% of US bikes is a lot more than 1% of SA bikes in numbers but a % is still a %. Then on the other hand it seems like KTM stealers in US and SA leave a lot to be desired when it comes to after sales service and parts supply, lots off guys here on the forum complain about it. Wonder if it is the same for European stealers?

It seems to me like the KTM is like an old Alfa, thrilling to ride/drive and gets the adrenaline going but always something that needs fixing.  :imaposer:

Well said.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 25, 2021, 11:56:23 am
Fact is the KTM 790 has some problems and US being a big market will have more problem bikes than the SA ones. It would be interesting to know percentage wise how many bikes has problems in US/SA/Europe etc.  1% of US bikes is a lot more than 1% of SA bikes in numbers but a % is still a %. Then on the other hand it seems like KTM stealers in US and SA leave a lot to be desired when it comes to after sales service and parts supply, lots off guys here on the forum complain about it. Wonder if it is the same for European stealers?

It seems to me like the KTM is like an old Alfa, thrilling to ride/drive and gets the adrenaline going but always something that needs fixing.  :imaposer:

I've been amazed by the KTM dealers in SA actually.  I'm never left looking for parts, if the first dealer I phone doesnt have something, the 2nd one does, and either way any part is just a 2week wait as they're constantly bringing stuff in.   
In fact I bought a KTM branded Shoei because if I went to the regular bike gear shops, all the helmets had been sitting on shelves for like 2 years.  Buying one from KTM got me an actual NEW helmet (because they bring em in every 2 weeks when needed), and it cost less than a generic Shoei color.   Riddle me that!?  KTM SA seems to be very jacked.

A huge flow of spare parts would have this positive effect, yes. :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on February 25, 2021, 01:07:36 pm
Was watching a video of Brett Tkacs reviewing his 790 after around 4000 miles of riding (hardly anything in SA terms), and the amount of faults on the bike (some safety critical) and time it had spent in the dealer workshop made me think BigOil was not talking sh!t here...... :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TeeJay on February 25, 2021, 01:24:08 pm
Fact is the KTM 790 has some problems and US being a big market will have more problem bikes than the SA ones. It would be interesting to know percentage wise how many bikes has problems in US/SA/Europe etc.  1% of US bikes is a lot more than 1% of SA bikes in numbers but a % is still a %. Then on the other hand it seems like KTM stealers in US and SA leave a lot to be desired when it comes to after sales service and parts supply, lots off guys here on the forum complain about it. Wonder if it is the same for European stealers?

It seems to me like the KTM is like an old Alfa, thrilling to ride/drive and gets the adrenaline going but always something that needs fixing.  :imaposer:

I've been amazed by the KTM dealers in SA actually.  I'm never left looking for parts, if the first dealer I phone doesnt have something, the 2nd one does, and either way any part is just a 2week wait as they're constantly bringing stuff in.   
In fact I bought a KTM branded Shoei because if I went to the regular bike gear shops, all the helmets had been sitting on shelves for like 2 years.  Buying one from KTM got me an actual NEW helmet (because they bring em in every 2 weeks when needed), and it cost less than a generic Shoei color.   Riddle me that!?  KTM SA seems to be very jacked.

A huge flow of spare parts would have this positive effect, yes. :biggrin:

Subtle....very subtle.... :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on February 25, 2021, 01:28:10 pm
Fellas, please, we are decades ahead and a much larger market.

 :laughing4: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:
... gimme a minute pls...  :imaposer:
Google where LFTR's are developed, the US isn't on that list.
SA is funnily enough  O0


Of course there's going to be more problematic bikes here.

Of course indeed, but patience please, give it a lil more time, Harley will release it's Adventurer soon!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on February 25, 2021, 02:32:33 pm
Fellas, please, we are decades ahead and a much larger market.

 :laughing4: :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:
... gimme a minute pls...  :imaposer:
Google where LFTR's are developed, the US isn't on that list.
SA is funnily enough  O0


Of course there's going to be more problematic bikes here.

Of course indeed, but patience please, give it a lil more time, Harley will release it's Adventurer soon!  :thumleft:

What is LFTR's and what has it got to do with this?  ???

A bad mechanic and or bad bikeshop/dealer/factory is exactly that, bad! It does not matter what brand, if they are shit they give that brand a bad name in any country around the world. Point in fact Big Oil did not say all KTM's are bad but just that the 790's specifically are troublesome and that some of the dealers are stuffing about.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 25, 2021, 03:27:00 pm
Is what they say true?
Facebook dont allow videos longer than 20 seconds, or else it will be flooded of guys posting their 0 to 100 km/h sprint times vids of their Harleys? :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on February 26, 2021, 12:57:10 pm
790 mechanics in the US?   :imaposer: :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: XRRX on February 26, 2021, 01:19:09 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 01:50:36 pm
 :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 01:51:23 pm
Maybe keep the pressure washer away from the TFT screen  :deal:

Who would pressure wash a brand new bike with 20 kilometers on it?  :patch:

Duhhh
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BiG DoM on February 26, 2021, 01:54:19 pm

En daai Yank hoort nie op die forum nie.Laat hy sy eie een tuis kry, of nee hulle weet ook hy is n vet ....

Ek stem heeltemal saam  8)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 02:01:44 pm


Lions don't concern themselves with opinions of sheep.  >:D
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 02:11:21 pm
Imagine purchasing a brand new bike that needs a replacement part before it leaves the dealership!!!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on February 26, 2021, 03:12:57 pm
Maybe keep the pressure washer away from the TFT screen  :deal:

Oh my Gawd!!! :o Now it is the Pressure washer's fault!!!

Why would you even think to use a pressure washer on a bike that has only 20km 's on it??

Do you wash your new bike after its first 20km's with a pressure washer?

The mind boggles. :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on February 26, 2021, 03:16:16 pm
Coulda been he went off-road and dropped it in the mud ...................... like you're supposed to.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on February 26, 2021, 03:31:59 pm
Coulda been he went off-road and dropped it in the mud ...................... like you're supposed to.

Oh Yeah !! I forgot that is what all new KTM owners do to test their factory warrantees before they really take them offroad!! :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 03:46:24 pm
Oh my Gawd!!! :o Now it is the Pressure washer's fault!!!

Why would you even think to use a pressure washer on a bike that has only 20km 's on it??

Do you wash your new bike after its first 20km's with a pressure washer?

The mind boggles. :biggrin:

So it was not because of a pressure washer?

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on February 26, 2021, 03:53:48 pm
Oh my Gawd!!! :o Now it is the Pressure washer's fault!!!

Why would you even think to use a pressure washer on a bike that has only 20km 's on it??

Do you wash your new bike after its first 20km's with a pressure washer?

The mind boggles. :biggrin:

So it was not because of a pressure washer?

I am trying to remain neutral here and not step on anyone's toes.  >:D
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:01:56 pm
Maybe keep the pressure washer away from the TFT screen  :deal:

Oh my Gawd!!! :o Now it is the Pressure washer's fault!!!

Why would you even think to use a pressure washer on a bike that has only 20km 's on it??

Do you wash your new bike after its first 20km's with a pressure washer?

The mind boggles. :biggrin:

For the record, every bike I've ever owned got a power wash at one point or another, no moisture in any dash.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:16:53 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 04:18:25 pm
Igor should get training on the use of a pressure washer.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:22:43 pm
Igor should get training on the use of a pressure washer.

Be better.

There's no need to feel inferior.

How much moisture are in your antiques after you rinse them?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 04:24:30 pm
Igor should get training on the use of a pressure washer.

Be better.

There's no need to feel inferior.

How much moisture are is in your antiques after you rinse them?

I'm better than Igor with a pressure washer.

Oh and...
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on February 26, 2021, 04:28:34 pm
I used to get that same effect when I washed the "American Piece of Monkey Shit Trailtech" fitted to my dirtbike.

The urge to right on social about it was overwhelming but I resisted until today .......................... sorry.

Anyways, at the time, I just took it in my stride and covered the screen when I washed the bike using my pressure washer, which I had never been trained on.......... :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:30:46 pm
Igor should get training on the use of a pressure washer.

Be better.

There's no need to feel inferior.

How much moisture are is in your antiques after you rinse them?

I'm better than Igor with a pressure washer.

Oh and...

Why does it have to be the pressure washers fault?

Why can't it be poorly designed cheap components?

Project much  :imaposer:

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:32:19 pm
I used to get that same effect when I washed the "American Piece of Monkey Shit Trailtech" fitted to my dirtbike.

The urge to right on social about it was overwhelming but I resisted until today .......................... sorry.

Anyways, at the time, I just took it in my stride and covered the screen when I washed the bike using my pressure washer, which I had never been trained on.......... :biggrin:

You must not have seen where your Trailtech was mfg'd at  :imaposer:

Or......did you actually believe it was made in the USA  :patch: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Doyyyyyyyy  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 04:32:35 pm
I used to get that same effect when I washed the "American Piece of Monkey Shit Trailtech" fitted to my dirtbike.

The urge to right on social about it was overwhelming but I resisted until today .......................... sorry.

Anyways, at the time, I just took it in my stride and covered the screen when I washed the bike using my pressure washer, which I had never been trained on.......... :biggrin:

You should move to the US and give training on correct pressure washer use, you will make a killing.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:34:37 pm
I used to get that same effect when I washed the "American Piece of Monkey Shit Trailtech" fitted to my dirtbike.

The urge to right on social about it was overwhelming but I resisted until today .......................... sorry.

Anyways, at the time, I just took it in my stride and covered the screen when I washed the bike using my pressure washer, which I had never been trained on.......... :biggrin:

You should move to the US and give training on correct pressure washer use, you will make a killing.

Igor Borisenko sounds American  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:38:52 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:43:03 pm
Letís be goofy and blame PWís.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 04:46:01 pm
So they get water in the TFT with the pressure washer and think it is a good idea to keep using it while there is moisture in and then complain when it dies?  :imaposer:  :imaposer:

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 26, 2021, 04:50:09 pm
So they get water in the TFT with the pressure washer and think it is a good idea to keep using it while there is moisture in and then complain when it dies?  :imaposer:  :imaposer:

Oh definitely, thousands of TFT's have died, all because of pressure washers.

Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that they're junk, like the rest of the bike.

Maybe they should have outsourced the TFT's to sub-saharan Africa  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 04:55:57 pm
So they get water in the TFT with the pressure washer and think it is a good idea to keep using it while there is moisture in and then complain when it dies?  :imaposer:  :imaposer:

Oh definitely, thousands of TFT's have died, all because of pressure washers.

Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that they're junk, like the rest of the bike.

Maybe they should have outsourced the TFT's to sub-saharan Africa  :imaposer:

Yip, you got it. Like pulling teeth.

Maybe they should have outsourced it to the mighty USA....oh wait sweatshops in China is a bad thing.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BiG DoM on February 26, 2021, 04:58:58 pm


Lions don't concern themselves with opinions of sheep.  >:D


And opinions are like arseholes - we all have one.

PS. WTF do you actually know about lions? I doubt they would even consider you edible.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on February 26, 2021, 05:27:44 pm
I used to get that same effect when I washed the "American Piece of Monkey Shit Trailtech" fitted to my dirtbike.

The urge to right on social about it was overwhelming but I resisted until today .......................... sorry.

Anyways, at the time, I just took it in my stride and covered the screen when I washed the bike using my pressure washer, which I had never been trained on.......... :biggrin:

You must not have seen where your Trailtech was mfg'd at  :imaposer:

Or......did you actually believe it was made in the USA  :patch: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Doyyyyyyyy  :imaposer:

Nope, didn't look. Why would I?

Had your stamp on , thought it might be good ........................................ but, I was younger then ..... O0
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 26, 2021, 05:29:34 pm
Nope, didn't look. Why would I?

Had your stamp on , thought it might be good ........................................ but, I was younger then ..... O0

Sweatshop in China  :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wayne on February 26, 2021, 07:04:20 pm
Cannot understand why some replies aimed at a specific person are in Afrikaans?

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BiG DoM on February 26, 2021, 07:39:44 pm
Cannot understand why some replies aimed at a specific person are in Afrikaans?

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Maybe because many do not speak Amerikaans?  ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 26, 2021, 09:09:57 pm
Yes, come on guys, leave BigOil alone, it's not like he's telling fibs and spreading rumours, the 790 has lots of issues, unthinkable in a modern motorcycle from an almost mainstream brand.

Lots of posts on here gunning for the messenger. If you can debunk his reports with facts, do so, otherwise gracefully accept the 790 to be a croc'o shyte, as some Englihmen would say.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wayne on February 26, 2021, 09:25:40 pm
Yes, come on guys, leave BigOil alone, it's not like he's telling fibs and spreading rumours, the 790 has lots of issues, unthinkable in a modern motorcycle from an almost mainstream brand.

Lots of posts on here gunning for the messenger. If you can debunk his reports with facts, do so, otherwise gracefully accept the 790 to be a croc'o shyte, as some Englihmen would say.


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 27, 2021, 05:27:28 am
Yes, come on guys, leave BigOil alone, it's not like he's telling fibs and spreading rumours, the 790 has lots of issues, unthinkable in a modern motorcycle from an almost mainstream brand.

Lots of posts on here gunning for the messenger. If you can debunk his reports with facts, do so, otherwise gracefully accept the 790 to be a croc'o shyte, as some Englihmen would say.

There is nothing to debunk. If there are any facts around these posted twat tweets it is not on this thread - fact.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 27, 2021, 06:50:44 am
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 09:32:10 am
Yes, come on guys, leave BigOil alone, it's not like he's telling fibs and spreading rumours, the 790 has lots of issues, unthinkable in a modern motorcycle from an almost mainstream brand.

Lots of posts on here gunning for the messenger. If you can debunk his reports with facts, do so, otherwise gracefully accept the 790 to be a croc'o shyte, as some Englihmen would say.

There is nothing to debunk. If there are any facts around these posted twat tweets it is not on this thread - fact.

Some of BigOil's posted 790 problems have been visited upon some our very own.............right up to taking bmw's GS800 "lewensgevaarlik" title. :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on February 27, 2021, 09:45:54 am
If the title has to be handed around, I'd be inclined to give it to the bike with the snap-off forks ...............................  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bappas on February 27, 2021, 10:46:14 am
Lets  face facts!  KTM s are nice bike s loved my 640 to bits !  But!!  They are not the most reliable and they are full of nigles!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: RedWolf on February 27, 2021, 11:16:12 am
Lets  face facts!  KTM s are nice bike s loved my 640 to bits !  But!!  They are not the most reliable and they are full of nigles!
I donít know. I think you are lucky or not. I had a lot of KTMís and never had any issues with any of them. My most unreliable bikes were actually Yamahaís and BMWís. That doesnít mean Yamaha or BMW are crap, life happens and I just got bad examples. I had 4x KTM 990Rís for instance and they were the most reliable model I ever owned. I had 4 x Honda XR650Rís and between them I had some issues.

It seems though that the 790Rís is not the best from a reliability perspective in the KTM stable but that doesnít mean every 790R is a shit bike.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 27, 2021, 03:06:27 pm
Lets  face facts!  KTM s are nice bike s loved my 640 to bits !  But!!  They are not the most reliable and they are full of nigles!
I donít know. I think you are lucky or not. I had a lot of KTMís and never had any issues with any of them. My most unreliable bikes were actually Yamahaís and BMWís. That doesnít mean Yamaha or BMW are crap, life happens and I just got bad examples. I had 4x KTM 990Rís for instance and they were the most reliable model I ever owned. I had 4 x Honda XR650Rís and between them I had some issues.

It seems though that the 790Rís is not the best from a reliability perspective in the KTM stable but that doesnít mean every 790R is a shit bike.

Well said and agreed wholeheartedly.

Let me remind readers once again; KTM produces some damn fine and fun motorbikes to ride.  I only take issue with the 790, I believe it was released to the masses much too early, with too many issues for the price.  I admire the Japanese philosophy on releasing their products to the masses, which, Imo, equals for ones hard earned money, they provide said consumer with a well sorted motorbike from the factory.  This thread is for the man or woman whom works hard for his money, I'm making him/her aware that the 790 experience may be relatively problem free, though could mean a new bike in the repair shop for months or once out of warranty, they may be facing repairs costing a considerable amount of money, very unlike an experience with a new Japanese manufactured and designed motorbike.  I care more about people than a manufacturers profit margin.

For those that like to use the word fact; now that the T7 has been out for several months  in many parts of the globe, I would invite said fact seekers to provide examples of T7's with blown and or leaking shock absorbers, warped brake rotors, low mileage clutch failures, self modulating and or locking front brake calipers, dash screen moisture and or failure, components falling off or loosening because of poorly designed harmonics, etc.

Let's ride and good day  :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 03:22:29 pm
Lets  face facts!  KTM s are nice bike s loved my 640 to bits !  But!!  They are not the most reliable and they are full of nigles!
I donít know. I think you are lucky or not. I had a lot of KTMís and never had any issues with any of them. My most unreliable bikes were actually Yamahaís and BMWís. That doesnít mean Yamaha or BMW are crap, life happens and I just got bad examples. I had 4x KTM 990Rís for instance and they were the most reliable model I ever owned. I had 4 x Honda XR650Rís and between them I had some issues.

It seems though that the 790Rís is not the best from a reliability perspective in the KTM stable but that doesnít mean every 790R is a shit bike.

Take note of the model of KTM the thread is about. I have a lot of time and respect for the big V-twins from KTM. And of course there's that unbeatable little 3honeys.[pre-F.I.]
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 27, 2021, 03:48:48 pm
Take note of the model of KTM the thread is about. I have a lot of time and respect for the big V-twins from KTM. And of course there's that unbeatable little 3honeys.[pre-F.I.]

So it is the motors that cause the TFT to moisten up? What is the problem with the 790 motors compared with the V-twins?

Oh and TPI...
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 04:29:35 pm
Take note of the model of KTM the thread is about. I have a lot of time and respect for the big V-twins from KTM. And of course there's that unbeatable little 3honeys.[pre-F.I.]

So it is the motors that cause the TFT to moisten up? What is the problem with the 790 motors compared with the V-twins?

Oh and TPI...

790 in general, clutch issues, shocks leaking, sometimes on the showroom floor. You know, I have only ever seen a driptray under a brand-new vehicle twice, the old Truimph dealer in Cape Town in the late 60's, and the Jawa dealer in Stellenbosch circa middle 80's.

And of course now the new 790's :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Quite some problems with the TPI's, as in seized motors, blamed by the agents on using the 'wrong" oil. Fuelling issues galore.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: rubiblue on February 27, 2021, 04:34:33 pm
I am very happy with mine. Such a fun capable vehicle. Donít mind a few niggles, they make you realise perfection cannot exist.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 04:39:02 pm
I am very happy with mine. Such a fun capable vehicle. Donít mind a few niggles, they make you realise perfection cannot exist.

What "niggles" have you had with yours?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: rubiblue on February 27, 2021, 04:56:12 pm
Rear shock seal but since replaced all good
TFT gone on blink about 5 times. Turn off and on again and all good
Brake lines replaced, no issue experienced, was asked to bring it in for new lines to be done
Dusty air box, ianB solution fixed it
Too much fun, but I can live with it
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bappas on February 27, 2021, 04:57:27 pm
Lets  face facts!  KTM s are nice bike s loved my 640 to bits !  But!!  They are not the most reliable and they are full of nigles!
I donít know. I think you are lucky or not. I had a lot of KTMís and never had any issues with any of them. My most unreliable bikes were actually Yamahaís and BMWís. That doesnít mean Yamaha or BMW are crap, life happens and I just got bad examples. I had 4x KTM 990Rís for instance and they were the most reliable model I ever owned. I had 4 x Honda XR650Rís and between them I had some issues.

It seems though that the 790Rís is not the best from a reliability perspective in the KTM stable but that doesnít mean every 790R is a shit bike.

Take note of the model of KTM the thread is about. I have a lot of time and respect for the big V-twins from KTM. And of course there's that unbeatable little 3honeys.[pre-F.I.]

I do take note of that Yes ! But look at the topics on this forum about KTM problems! I also had some KTM ofroads and once again same story definatly not as reliable as the Kawasaki s or Yamaha s I had !

What I was trying to say is they invoke a pasion  and do that very well but none of them are very well sorted or very reliable production machines! Once again just follow the technical discusions on this forum!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on February 27, 2021, 05:10:02 pm
Dusty air box, ianB solution fixed it

Sorry, not true.
IanB's pre-filter foam-mod I like, had even and will get again.... but this does not at all affect dust in the airbox, pre- or post filter!
Pre-filter it only builds up slower as haybales etc are filtered out, but the foam, irrespective if you oil it or not, does only so much: it is NOT an airfilter, and to IanB's credit he also said as much himself  :thumleft:
Post-filter is does nothing, this part only relying on the sealing (or lack thereof) of the airfilter element.

Look, the pre-filter airbox is meant to become dusty, all normal, and what IanB's prefilter setup does is twofold:
- it does away with the dual intake flutes (which are there for silencing mostly) and provides a waayy larger intake area than the cross-section of those two flutes making breathing for the engine a bit easier
- it pre-filters the air a bit by means of a thin layer of foam, and the latter can be used dry or oiled
This will allow less dust into the pre-filter airbox - less, not 'none' like you seem to claim with your statement  ;)


Most importantly though, a dirty pre-filter airbox is NOT a shortcoming of the 790 or any other bike, it is normal!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on February 27, 2021, 05:23:52 pm
TFT gone on blink about 5 times. Turn off and on again and all good

Sorry, also not true: if your TFT goes haywire (any funny alarm or function activated) then this is due to water inside!
This water, in form of water vapour, causes conduction between odd points of the electronic circuitry which in turn causes odd functionality.
Resetting by means of cycling may sort this for that specific moment.... but you better claim a replacement from your dealer under warranty asap!

Here's to convince yourself there's water in it:
- take off the display by undoing only the 3 bolts, then undo the big connector by depressing the clips either side
- put your display into your fridge...
.... and wait until visible condensation builds up on the screen!
Take a pic of this(!) as your dealer will need it to be able to claim a new one under warranty.

If you wait to do this then know that water will wreak havoc (corrosion) in miniature (surface mount) electronic circuitry over time, no exceptions to this, and eventually the unit will 'break', refuse to work.... and if by then your warranty has expired good luck to your wallet  ???
Don't wait @rubiblue , put a claim in!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 27, 2021, 05:42:03 pm
Take note of the model of KTM the thread is about. I have a lot of time and respect for the big V-twins from KTM. And of course there's that unbeatable little 3honeys.[pre-F.I.]

So it is the motors that cause the TFT to moisten up? What is the problem with the 790 motors compared with the V-twins?

Oh and TPI...

790 in general, clutch issues, shocks leaking, sometimes on the showroom floor. You know, I have only ever seen a driptray under a brand-new vehicle twice, the old Truimph dealer in Cape Town in the late 60's, and the Jawa dealer in Stellenbosch circa middle 80's.

And of course now the new 790's :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Quite some problems with the TPI's, as in seized motors, blamed by the agents on using the 'wrong" oil. Fuelling issues galore.

Nee man, word wakker.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 08:17:21 pm
Rear shock seal but since replaced all good
TFT gone on blink about 5 times. Turn off and on again and all good
Brake lines replaced, no issue experienced, was asked to bring it in for new lines to be done
Dusty air box, ianB solution fixed it
Too much fun, but I can live with it

You describe a bike that should be at least R50 000 cheaper, at a push. Not everyone will live with those quality shortcomings.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 11:31:57 pm
Vintage_Mania, you know you are wrong defending this particular model, and going as far as insulting not only BigOil, but sommer the whole America. :ricky:

Just scroll back up to Rubiblue's very honest post reply #262 about his own R200 000 bike's problems.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 28, 2021, 06:40:43 am
Vintage_Mania, you know you are wrong defending this particular model, and going as far as insulting not only BigOil, but sommer the whole America. :ricky:

Just scroll back up to Rubiblue's very honest post reply #262 about his own R200 000 bike's problems.

Danie, please read my replies, also those to Tyre kicker, I am not the one throwing insults and calling names, bar the twat tweets.



Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 28, 2021, 10:12:03 am
Stuur miskien julle liefdes beriggies aan mekaar via PM?

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 28, 2021, 10:47:34 am
Vintage_Mania, you know you are wrong defending this particular model, and going as far as insulting not only BigOil, but sommer the whole America. :ricky:

Just scroll back up to Rubiblue's very honest post reply #262 about his own R200 000 bike's problems.

Danie, please read my replies, also those to Tyre kicker, I am not the one throwing insults and calling names, bar the twat tweets.


Denial and deflection, are you a politician?



Can we change the name of this thread to "American bike mechanics are useless and incompetent" because that what it seems to be about. 

Seems if it isn't air cooled with a single pin crank and redline at 3200RPM and have a whopping 45freedom powers, they don't know where to start.

Very apt comment. Looks like the first challenge of uncrating and some simple assembly bowls them out and it all goes downhill from there.


First comment is idiotic on a level of epic proportions, considering we just landed a robot rover on Mars, yet you agreed with it and expanded on said idiotic comment.  Speaks volumes.




Igor should get training on the use of a pressure washer.

Implying Russians don't know how to use a PW = insult. 




Igor should get training on the use of a pressure washer.

Be better.

There's no need to feel inferior.

How much moisture are is in your antiques after you rinse them?

I'm better than Igor with a pressure washer.

Oh and...

You're better than the Russian with a PW, something to be proud of.  :imaposer:

Insulting because I used 'are' instead of 'is'.



I used to get that same effect when I washed the "American Piece of Monkey Shit Trailtech" fitted to my dirtbike.

The urge to right on social about it was overwhelming but I resisted until today .......................... sorry.

Anyways, at the time, I just took it in my stride and covered the screen when I washed the bike using my pressure washer, which I had never been trained on.......... :biggrin:

You should move to the US and give training on correct pressure washer use, you will make a killing.

Implying Americans aren't trained in using PW's = insult.  If only we had you and all your experience to train us.  :imaposer:




So they get water in the TFT with the pressure washer and think it is a good idea to keep using it while there is moisture in and then complain when it dies?  :imaposer:  :imaposer:

Oh definitely, thousands of TFT's have died, all because of pressure washers.

Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that they're junk, like the rest of the bike.

Maybe they should have outsourced the TFT's to sub-saharan Africa  :imaposer:

Yip, you got it. Like pulling teeth.

Maybe they should have outsourced it to the mighty USA....oh wait sweatshops in China is a bad thing.

Insults?  Nah, not in your mind.  :imaposer:

Be better, VM.

Play the ball, not the man.


Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Vintage_Mania on February 28, 2021, 11:03:41 am
Oh my, hear the mighty lion roar  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
Title: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 28, 2021, 11:14:32 am
Well, you're learning, I can say that for you. 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 28, 2021, 11:17:08 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on February 28, 2021, 11:17:31 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: rubiblue on February 28, 2021, 07:20:39 pm
TFT gone on blink about 5 times. Turn off and on again and all good

Sorry, also not true: if your TFT goes haywire (any funny alarm or function activated) then this is due to water inside!
This water, in form of water vapour, causes conduction between odd points of the electronic circuitry which in turn causes odd functionality.
Resetting by means of cycling may sort this for that specific moment.... but you better claim a replacement from your dealer under warranty asap!

Here's to convince yourself there's water in it:
- take off the display by undoing only the 3 bolts, then undo the big connector by depressing the clips either side
- put your display into your fridge...
.... and wait until visible condensation builds up on the screen!
Take a pic of this(!) as your dealer will need it to be able to claim a new one under warranty.

If you wait to do this then know that water will wreak havoc (corrosion) in miniature (surface mount) electronic circuitry over time, no exceptions to this, and eventually the unit will 'break', refuse to work.... and if by then your warranty has expired good luck to your wallet  ???
Don't wait @rubiblue , put a claim in!

Bike already out of warranty, bought it second hand. I will sort it out should it completely fuck out. On the filter comment above. The ianB and proper foam filter worked for me, instead of the paper one. Better than it was is what I mean. Thanks for opinion. I love this moped, it is befok.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 01, 2021, 10:00:18 am
Bike already out of warranty

Check your PM's  ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 01, 2021, 10:19:32 am
TFT gone on blink about 5 times. Turn off and on again and all good

Sorry, also not true: if your TFT goes haywire (any funny alarm or function activated) then this is due to water inside!
This water, in form of water vapour, causes conduction between odd points of the electronic circuitry which in turn causes odd functionality.
Resetting by means of cycling may sort this for that specific moment.... but you better claim a replacement from your dealer under warranty asap!

Here's to convince yourself there's water in it:
- take off the display by undoing only the 3 bolts, then undo the big connector by depressing the clips either side
- put your display into your fridge...
.... and wait until visible condensation builds up on the screen!
Take a pic of this(!) as your dealer will need it to be able to claim a new one under warranty.

If you wait to do this then know that water will wreak havoc (corrosion) in miniature (surface mount) electronic circuitry over time, no exceptions to this, and eventually the unit will 'break', refuse to work.... and if by then your warranty has expired good luck to your wallet  ???
Don't wait @rubiblue , put a claim in!

Bike already out of warranty, bought it second hand. I will sort it out should it completely fuck out. On the filter comment above. The ianB and proper foam filter worked for me, instead of the paper one. Better than it was is what I mean. Thanks for opinion. I love this moped, it is befok.

with your self imploding super expensive indian bike giving you all these crazy life threatening issues...
knowing what you know now, would you buy it again?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 01, 2021, 10:42:59 am
knowing what you know now, would you buy it again?

Good question: Yes, every single one of them!
Warranty's been prompt-enough (C19..), service ditto and with a smile, and our ride yesterday was genuinely special  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 01, 2021, 10:45:40 am
Yaaaaa I am on the same 790 facebook groups as BigOil where he is getting all these issues from, one in each country it seems.

the consensus is the same there, most people, by far, have had zero or minimal issues and even more would make the same decision again.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 01, 2021, 11:19:58 am
It all started in Viernam m0lt3n, Agent Orange is addictive  :P
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Odd Dog on March 01, 2021, 11:41:16 am
You got that all deurmekaar, agent orange was a killer of note.  :)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 01, 2021, 11:51:22 am
You got that all deurmekaar, agent orange was a killer of note.  :)

what is that Potatoe Potatou phrase...?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 01, 2021, 01:59:34 pm
 
 
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on March 01, 2021, 02:03:47 pm
I am willing to bet a substantial amount of money that his TC was switched off hence no CC

PS... We get it. Now give it a rest.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 01, 2021, 02:12:54 pm
It all started in Viernam m0lt3n, Agent Orange is addictive  :P

And a weedkiller....... :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 01, 2021, 02:46:47 pm
I am willing to bet a substantial amount of money that his TC was switched off hence no CC

PS... We get it. Now give it a rest.
Iíd lean towards a faulty or moisturized brake switch.

Have you decided on your biking destination for your USA trip?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on March 01, 2021, 03:01:26 pm
I am willing to bet a substantial amount of money that his TC was switched off hence no CC

PS... We get it. Now give it a rest.
Iíd lean towards a faulty or moisturized brake switch.

Have you decided on your biking destination for your USA trip?

I am still leaning to operator error.

We are busy saving for the trip. Plan is to rent a camper and work in as much of the north west as possible starting from Colorado.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 01, 2021, 03:45:01 pm
I am willing to bet a substantial amount of money that his TC was switched off hence no CC

PS... We get it. Now give it a rest.
Iíd lean towards a faulty or moisturized brake switch.

Have you decided on your biking destination for your USA trip?

I am still leaning to operator error.

We are busy saving for the trip. Plan is to rent a camper and work in as much of the north west as possible starting from Colorado.

Like an automobile in Cruise Control mode, if the rider depresses the front or rear brake lever, CC is defeated.  In the above post, his rear brake light is constantly on, therefore, his rear brake switch is likely stuck 'on', therefore the ECU on the braking circuit won't allow CC to be enabled, Imo.

Your trip sounds like a good plan, you'll be in awe in southwest Colorado riding the passes (Ophir Pass, Blackbear Pass ((BP is a category 5, I boiled my rear brake fluid descending on my 1290, a butt puckering experience)), Corkscrew Gulch, Clear Lake Gulch, Imogene Pass, Cinnamon Pass, Engineer Pass, Yankee Boy) around Telluride, Silverton, and Ouray, not to mention the off-road riding nearby around Moab, Utah.  You should start a planning thread so I can opine on where and what to see based on the amount of time you'll be stateside.   You could easily spend a couple weeks exploring all the off road riding in the aforementioned two areas.

Here's a neat site with a difficulty legend of each gulch or pass:  https://ouraymountainadventures.com/explore

Another good site with distance and pics:  https://www.alltrails.com/us/colorado/ouray/off-road-driving

Who is coming with ya? 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on March 01, 2021, 03:55:07 pm
Who is coming with ya?

My wife and I. Won't be doing anything hardcore, just general sight seeing.

I'll definitely pop you a message when the time comes. We are aiming for maybe 2023  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 05, 2021, 01:18:30 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: GhostSixFour on March 05, 2021, 09:07:49 am
To be fair, the whole world is struggling with processor shortages, so I don't think we can place the blame for the wait on KTM. The shitty screen, sure, but not the wait.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 05, 2021, 10:21:46 am
Sadly, I start to regret this purchase :-(

Helping a slow person here a bit....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 11:45:22 am
It is abundantly clear that this bike, while loaded with attractive electronic aids and devices, have been built very cheaply.

It would be very interesting to see exactly how much they are built for and how much the factory charges the dealer for one.

I suspect a horrifically high profit margin.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2021, 11:46:31 am
Will they hold up 20 years down the line like the 990 ? Honest question.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 05, 2021, 12:18:59 pm
Will they hold up 20 years down the line like the 990 ? Honest question.

You know the answer.....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on March 05, 2021, 12:31:33 pm
Objective riders: The T7 is a little under sprung.
Yami fans who have never ridden it: FUCK YOU ITS THE BEST BIKE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

790 Owners: I love my bike even though it has some niggles.
People who have never owned or ridden one: OPEN YOUR EYES YOU IDIOT IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 05, 2021, 12:33:20 pm
Objective riders: The T7 is a little under sprung.
Yami fans who have never ridden it: FUCK YOU ITS THE BEST BIKE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

790 Owners: I love my bike even though it has some niggles.
People who have never owned or ridden one: OPEN YOUR EYES YOU IDIOT IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Operator on March 05, 2021, 12:39:42 pm
790 Owners: I love my bike even though it has some niggles.
People who have never owned or ridden one: OPEN YOUR EYES YOU IDIOT IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

790 owners sounds a lot like Alfa Romeo owners  :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 12:49:04 pm
790 Owners: I love my bike even though it has some niggles.
People who have never owned or ridden one: OPEN YOUR EYES YOU IDIOT IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

790 owners sounds a lot like Alfa Romeo owners  :lol8:

 :imaposer: Like my friend who had to dismantle his LandRover gearbox to replace a stripped splined mainshaft, also to try and laugh it off as a "niggle".

Party mense like van vloek n sukkel.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 05, 2021, 01:29:31 pm
It would be very interesting to see exactly how much they are built for and how much the factory charges the dealer for one.

I suspect a horrifically high profit margin.

Behave yourself Dan, after all I did not ask these exact same questions wrt the T7..... which' profit margin will beat any other bike's by a staggering margin (a pun, sorry)!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 05, 2021, 02:09:28 pm
It would be very interesting to see exactly how much they are built for and how much the factory charges the dealer for one.

I suspect a horrifically high profit margin.

Behave yourself Dan, after all I did not ask these exact same questions wrt the T7..... which' profit margin will beat any other bike's by a staggering margin (a pun, sorry)!

I also noticed the irony here. EFF statements normally raise the same kind of frowns...

just imagine the profit margin on that T7,
I wonder if you buy T7 suspension and 790 suspension of the shelf if they will still cost the same. I imagine they will....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2021, 02:21:48 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2021, 02:25:36 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
It was even built in the EU and Japan where people are paid good wages
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 03:49:30 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
It was even built in the EU and Japan where people are paid good wages

Exactly, and it brings me back to point on profiteering from your fanbase by having stuff made in countries suffering sanctions because of human rights abuses, underpaid, overworked workers [slaves]

toiling way in dimly-lit locked-from-the-outside dilapidated buildings tp try and produce parts.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Fransw on March 05, 2021, 05:16:16 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
It was even built in the EU and Japan where people are paid good wages

Exactly, and it brings me back to point on profiteering from your fanbase by having stuff made in countries suffering sanctions because of human rights abuses, underpaid, overworked workers [slaves]

toiling way in dimly-lit locked-from-the-outside dilapidated buildings tp try and produce parts.

Oom Danie, ek sien jou nie eintlik as n menseregte aktivis nie! :lol8: Maar dis baie waar wat jy bo se..
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 05, 2021, 05:34:54 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
It was even built in the EU and Japan where people are paid good wages

Exactly, and it brings me back to point on profiteering from your fanbase by having stuff made in countries suffering sanctions because of human rights abuses, underpaid, overworked workers [slaves]

toiling way in dimly-lit locked-from-the-outside dilapidated buildings tp try and produce parts.
Wonder if you get whipped while assembling Bybre calipers  :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on March 05, 2021, 05:45:48 pm
Objective riders: The T7 is a little under sprung.
Yami fans who have never ridden it: FUCK YOU ITS THE BEST BIKE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

790 Owners: I love my bike even though it has some niggles.
People who have never owned or ridden one: OPEN YOUR EYES YOU IDIOT IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Briljant!!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on March 05, 2021, 08:06:11 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
It was even built in the EU and Japan where people are paid good wages

Exactly, and it brings me back to point on profiteering from your fanbase by having stuff made in countries suffering sanctions because of human rights abuses, underpaid, overworked workers [slaves]

toiling way in dimly-lit locked-from-the-outside dilapidated buildings tp try and produce parts.

That's a helluva flip-flop there, 2SD ..........................
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 09:07:13 pm
The T7 is so well priced worldwide I doubt they make much money, cant even sell the owners some spares as they donít need it
It was even built in the EU and Japan where people are paid good wages

Exactly, and it brings me back to point on profiteering from your fanbase by having stuff made in countries suffering sanctions because of human rights abuses, underpaid, overworked workers [slaves]

toiling way in dimly-lit locked-from-the-outside dilapidated buildings tp try and produce parts.

That's a helluva flip-flop there, 2SD ..........................

Onthou net; Fok die Chinese.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cable Tie on March 05, 2021, 09:43:01 pm
Hierdie thread is n lot k@k en dit alles in die naam van ďsaving the endangered potential buyerĒ ag asseblief hou op, iemand wat genoeg geld het om n 790 te koop het genoeg geld om met die issues te deal en is slim genoeg om te Google voor hy koop so die olie kol kan maar iets anders soek om sy tyd op te spandeer en sy lojale volgelinge kan maar gerus....kom ons bou dieselfde bike oor en oor en maak hom tog asseblief net reliable want as ons innoveer loop ons die risiko om deur die kudde gekritiseer te word


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 10:06:35 pm
"Niggles"

"Innoveer"

Die naamlys van KTM fanboys bou op......
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cable Tie on March 05, 2021, 10:14:59 pm
Bly ons kan help bou aan jou woordeskat


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 10:19:01 pm
Bly ons kan help bou aan jou woordeskat


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Ek is net bly ek hoef nie verskonings te soek vir n ding wat op die showroom vloer staan en lek nie.....fok tog, dit is mos 2021?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cable Tie on March 05, 2021, 10:38:10 pm
Jy hoef nie maar tog is jy hier vir wie weet watse rede, en ja dit is 2021, is al wat n bike moet doen nie olie lek nie ?


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 05, 2021, 10:55:35 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on March 05, 2021, 10:58:58 pm
Bly ons kan help bou aan jou woordeskat


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 06, 2021, 08:24:15 am
Bly ons kan help bou aan jou woordeskat


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Daar brandmerk die zealot jou ook as n fanboy.
Welkom!!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on March 06, 2021, 10:49:42 am
When I googled MTC to find out what it means it came straight back with "MTC failure KTM."  That can't be a good thing!  Had to ask Google some other round about questions to find out what MTC is and admittedly it is a motorcycle specific term.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 06, 2021, 10:52:26 am
When I googled MTC to find out what it means it came straight back with "MTC failure KTM."  That can't be a good thing!  Had to ask Google some other round about questions to find out what MTC is and admittedly it is a motorcycle specific term.

KTM......the new Alfa Romeo.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 09, 2021, 03:43:56 am
What if I told you that KTM will sell you a motorbike for over $14,000 usd that you will have to carry a spare shock absorber, in your pannier, on a long trip, would you buy it?





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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 09, 2021, 07:11:36 am
When I googled MTC to find out what it means it came straight back with "MTC failure KTM."  That can't be a good thing!  Had to ask Google some other round about questions to find out what MTC is and admittedly it is a motorcycle specific term.

Motorcycle traction control

The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff


That check engine light and cutting out is weird though. First I hear of that, even in this well documented thread summarizing all the 790 issues so carefully I cant remember it being mentioned before, would like to know what was the cause of that. Good thing we know Big Oil is on it
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 09, 2021, 07:14:32 am
When I googled MTC to find out what it means it came straight back with "MTC failure KTM."  That can't be a good thing!  Had to ask Google some other round about questions to find out what MTC is and admittedly it is a motorcycle specific term.

KTM......the new Alfa Romeo.

Absoluut!
En, komende van `n Alfa eienaar homself, ek kan aan geen beter kompliment dink nie.
Dankie oom Den....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 09, 2021, 08:02:12 am
When I googled MTC to find out what it means it came straight back with "MTC failure KTM."  That can't be a good thing!  Had to ask Google some other round about questions to find out what MTC is and admittedly it is a motorcycle specific term.

Motorcycle traction control

The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff


That check engine light and cutting out is weird though. First I hear of that, even in this well documented thread summarizing all the 790 issues so carefully I cant remember it being mentioned before, would like to know what was the cause of that. Good thing we know Big Oil is on it

I'm flattered you look up to me.  I'm here to help if you ever need advice or guidance!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 09, 2021, 10:23:24 am
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Gee S on March 09, 2021, 10:42:13 am
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem 
 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: Good one Burp :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bill the Bong on March 09, 2021, 11:13:34 am
When I googled MTC to find out what it means it came straight back with "MTC failure KTM."  That can't be a good thing!  Had to ask Google some other round about questions to find out what MTC is and admittedly it is a motorcycle specific term.

Motorcycle traction control

The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff


That check engine light and cutting out is weird though. First I hear of that, even in this well documented thread summarizing all the 790 issues so carefully I cant remember it being mentioned before, would like to know what was the cause of that. Good thing we know Big Oil is on it
\

An adventure bike that shows error when you get mud on a sensor that is at hub level, will do spectacularly well when you drown it like a certain 990 I know off.  That 990 drank gallons of muddy water and sounds even better than ever.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 09, 2021, 01:28:25 pm
^haha  ja ja

it defaults MTC and ABS to off with an error
aka 990 mode!

I am starting to get PMS without my 990 now, its been to long
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 09, 2021, 08:17:18 pm
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:

Surprising amount of riders currently cannot handle a 100hp bike and needs the e-help. But it needs to be reliable e-help.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 09, 2021, 10:48:03 pm
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:

Surprising amount of riders currently cannot handle a 100hp bike and needs the e-help. But it needs to be reliable e-help.

Burp must have missed the owners description of the engine not wanting to run and barely getting home on the bike, due to a little mud  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on March 10, 2021, 12:26:59 am
We should start a 'go fund me' initiative and donate big oil a 790 for krismis.

A used one

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 10, 2021, 06:22:48 am
We should start a 'go fund me' initiative and donate big oil a 790 for krismis.

A used one

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 10, 2021, 07:15:21 am
We should start a 'go fund me' initiative and donate big oil a 790 for krismis.

A used one

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 :imaposer: Don't forget a 5 year extended warranty, I'll definitely need it.  :biggrin:

And the Salomon/Nike/Adidas sponsorship. :pot: :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: OomD on March 10, 2021, 07:18:37 am
I hear in the states you get a puppy with each new KTM, so you don't have to walk home alone.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 10, 2021, 07:30:04 am
I hear in the states you get a puppy with each new KTM, so you don't have to walk home alone.
Itís not exclusively the USA, itís a global campaign!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 10, 2021, 07:43:13 am
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:
How did people ride the 950 SE ? More HP and torque than the 790.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 10, 2021, 08:07:51 am
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:
How did people ride the 950 SE ? More HP and torque than the 790.

baffles me

so the rider aids, the fancy screen an whatnot fails on the 790
but the core of the bike is still better than a T7, and it costs the same

so does it matter if your TFT screen have some moisture in, the T7 does not even have a TFT screen but now its said to be the better buy

better buy with the lesser suspension, lesser centre of gravity, lesser engine for the same price...


I dont get it. Did we forget what biking is about?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 10, 2021, 08:35:29 am
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:
How did people ride the 950 SE ? More HP and torque than the 790.

baffles me

so the rider aids, the fancy screen an whatnot fails on the 790
but the core of the bike is still better than a T7, and it costs the same

so does it matter if your TFT screen have some moisture in, the T7 does not even have a TFT screen but now its said to be the better buy

better buy with the lesser suspension, lesser centre of gravity, lesser engine for the same price...


I dont get it. Did we forget what biking is about?

Yes, times have changed.
Modern day biking = talking trash about other bikes on social platforms, and posting pics of your epic trip (you do a total of 1000km a year on your bike).
Fixing a tube puncture is now a problem. it was not before.
Furthermore, if your left big toe gets a bit numb from a 50 km ride, you get unto the social platforms where you make it clear you are a victim of something, and demand a explanation and enquiry.
It is not cool to go ta bike shop anymore, and ask a bike riding salesman what is the best helmet for your budget. You ask it on a social platform, and get thoroughly confused.
It is also not cool anymore to always improve and rely on your skill sets to explore your bikes and own capabilities, however you can buy a new bike with watered down power and suspension,
labelled as back to basics biking but priced into oblivion because we now have a reliable bike yes?
The guy with the 150 hp KTM loaded with electronics, and playstation screen, , will improve his skills over time, as little as the guy with the numb bike that has no gut or electronics.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 10, 2021, 08:58:06 am
Altie you were joking on some stuff there, but truth is normally in jest (what is that saying?)

"It is also not cool anymore to always improve and rely on your skill sets to explore your bikes and own capabilities"
try asking on a social media platform if you can do some medium ride, most will say no, or say not alone. Even the R355 is a challenge!


"The guy with the 150 hp KTM loaded with electronics, and playstation screen, , will improve his skills over time, as little as the guy with the numb bike that has no gut or electronics."

I was this guy, no real biking background and landed up with a 1190, in the beginning very careful. Then sommer left the bike in offroad mode, then my electronics failed and perish the thought, full 150hp with no aids! I am almost salivating here where I sit, I miss that! Think I did 5000km like that, did not want to get it fixed!
 proper power offroad is easier than struggling to hit a corner, at the correct speed (read = low speed) in the correct gear with non grippy tyres and maybe the rear comes out, vs just whacking open that throttle and stuff just happening.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 10, 2021, 09:27:06 am
Altie you were joking on some stuff there, but truth is normally in jest (what is that saying?)

"It is also not cool anymore to always improve and rely on your skill sets to explore your bikes and own capabilities"
try asking on a social media platform if you can do some medium ride, most will say no, or say not alone. Even the R355 is a challenge!


"The guy with the 150 hp KTM loaded with electronics, and playstation screen, , will improve his skills over time, as little as the guy with the numb bike that has no gut or electronics."

I was this guy, no real biking background and landed up with a 1190, in the beginning very careful. Then sommer left the bike in offroad mode, then my electronics failed and perish the thought, full 150hp with no aids! I am almost salivating here where I sit, I miss that! Think I did 5000km like that, did not want to get it fixed!
 proper power offroad is easier than struggling to hit a corner, at the correct speed (read = low speed) in the correct gear with non grippy tyres and maybe the rear comes out, vs just whacking open that throttle and stuff just happening.

Martin, yy is een van die min ouens wat nie terug gehou word deur die gedagte aan `n valletjie of `n paar skuurmerke op jou bike se panels nie.
Ons word meestal terug gehou deur ons twyfel, die bikes en `n man self is tot baie in staat.
Ek self was altyd n GS ou wat elke 2 de naweek my bike gepolish het, nou sit ek met `n 701 wat vol battlescars is, alhoewel ek dit meganies tip top hou.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 10, 2021, 09:45:16 am
ek moet se

ek is wel goed omgekrap as my bike krappe op kry. Dit pla my baie, en so elke nou en dan sal ek ook maar weer die ktm se wiele swart maak en nie die grondpadjie dorp toe kies vir so week lank nie.

Maar op die einde van die dag is dit klomp geld en moet mens maksimum genot kry vir daai geld.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 10, 2021, 10:00:17 am
Ja nee, verseker. Die goete is duur.
`n Man moet elke nou en dan so bietjie opknap.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cable Tie on March 10, 2021, 07:00:53 pm
I can deal with most everything, but having to deal with local KTM dealers sometimes pushes me very near to the edge...


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 10, 2021, 07:12:52 pm
ek moet se

ek is wel goed omgekrap as my bike krappe op kry. Dit pla my baie, en so elke nou en dan sal ek ook maar weer die ktm se wiele swart maak en nie die grondpadjie dorp toe kies vir so week lank nie.

Maar op die einde van die dag is dit klomp geld en moet mens maksimum genot kry vir daai geld.

En maksimum genot gebeur nie langs die pad met n stukkende fiets nie. Daais maksimum snot [en trane]
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 11, 2021, 09:51:18 am
ek moet se

ek is wel goed omgekrap as my bike krappe op kry. Dit pla my baie, en so elke nou en dan sal ek ook maar weer die ktm se wiele swart maak en nie die grondpadjie dorp toe kies vir so week lank nie.

Maar op die einde van die dag is dit klomp geld en moet mens maksimum genot kry vir daai geld.

En maksimum genot gebeur nie langs die pad met n stukkende fiets nie. Daais maksimum snot [en trane]

#FakeNews

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: OomD on March 11, 2021, 10:04:47 am
ek moet se

ek is wel goed omgekrap as my bike krappe op kry. Dit pla my baie, en so elke nou en dan sal ek ook maar weer die ktm se wiele swart maak en nie die grondpadjie dorp toe kies vir so week lank nie.

Maar op die einde van die dag is dit klomp geld en moet mens maksimum genot kry vir daai geld.

En maksimum genot gebeur nie langs die pad met n stukkende fiets nie. Daais maksimum snot [en trane]
Is 'n 701 nie eintlik ook maar net 'n KTM met ander pajamas nie?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on March 11, 2021, 10:22:45 am
The software fails if mud gets into the ABS sensor. Then you dont have ABS or traction control till you clean it.
End of the world stuff

I agree.
A monster like the 790 cannot be ridden without MTC or Wheelie-control (which will also be disabled then) so this is a real problem, a ride-ending incident!
So now one has to carry emergency camping gear, food & kitchen stuff, plenty water also of course (shower!), plus a satellite phone to enable you to verbally abuse your dealer (it is his fault of course!) because you will miss the high tea party you had lined up later on the day with the new neighbours of which especially the wife is rather attractive!
Then when finally, after endured miscomfort in an utterly dangerous environment (mozzies!), you may even have had to sleep there (and keep in mind that reconstituted steak-au-poivre was good yeah, but not nearly enough for dinner!) the emergency vehicles arrive, you welcome them with horror stories however also blaming them for taking so long to reach you on top of Forbidden Pass, last crossed by Henry in his T Ford.

Mericans, you must love them  :P
Piss on the sensor, it'll solve your problem  :thumleft:
How did people ride the 950 SE ? More HP and torque than the 790.

baffles me

so the rider aids, the fancy screen an whatnot fails on the 790
but the core of the bike is still better than a T7, and it costs the same

so does it matter if your TFT screen have some moisture in, the T7 does not even have a TFT screen but now its said to be the better buy

better buy with the lesser suspension, lesser centre of gravity, lesser engine for the same price...


I dont get it. Did we forget what biking is about?

I thing that is EXACTLY what the T7 is doing, reminding us exactly what biking is all about.... just hitting the starter and riding... nothing more, nothing less  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 11, 2021, 02:37:27 pm
^ except it doesnt Roxtar. Whenever the T7 is switched off and on it reverts back to ABS on.

resep om jou gat te sien as daar ooit een was.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 11, 2021, 02:48:36 pm
^ except it doesnt Roxtar. Whenever the T7 is switched off and on it reverts back to ABS on.

resep om jou gat te sien as daar ooit een was.
Trek ABS fuse
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on March 11, 2021, 02:56:02 pm
^ except it doesnt Roxtar. Whenever the T7 is switched off and on it reverts back to ABS on.

resep om jou gat te sien as daar ooit een was.

Nou kloof ons net hare .... :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: bud500 on March 11, 2021, 02:56:38 pm
^ except it doesnt Roxtar. Whenever the T7 is switched off and on it reverts back to ABS on.

resep om jou gat te sien as daar ooit een was.
Trek ABS fuse

And then everyone can wait for you while you refit the fuse for next 100km on tar....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 11, 2021, 03:02:40 pm
sorry guys, the one electronic thing on the T7 will be more frustrating than all the electronics combined on the 790.

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 11, 2021, 05:08:49 pm
^ except it doesnt Roxtar. Whenever the T7 is switched off and on it reverts back to ABS on.

resep om jou gat te sien as daar ooit een was.
Trek ABS fuse

And then everyone can wait for you while you refit the fuse for next 100km on tar....
Nah just leave it out and avoid tar like the plague
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tommy Transalp on March 11, 2021, 07:25:10 pm
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 11, 2021, 07:32:17 pm
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:

Exactly. The very first thing I disconnect permanently on the 701 is the ABS. Kindertuin is nie my ding nie.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 12, 2021, 07:51:09 am
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:
Agree ABS is a pain in the arise. One of the reasons I sold my Rally 250. That moment when you hit some sand and realize the ABS was not switched off  >:(
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 12, 2021, 08:05:35 am
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:

EK het n 990 buddy
jy klink soos hy

maar hy het sommer net 2 maande terug sy gat afgeval toe hy wheelie, nie sien sy buddy voor hom het gestop nie, en met die voorwiel neer sit toe te veel voorbriek gee tydens hierdie OH SHIT oomblik

Maar ja. who needs ABS
volgens hom, hy doen nogsteeds nie. EK dink sy 990 versekering claim was maar net R30k

Ek het ook nie tans ABS nie, maar ek gaan my nie uit laat vir n toffee hier nie
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 12, 2021, 08:34:51 am
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:

EK het n 990 buddy
jy klink soos hy

maar hy het sommer net 2 maande terug sy gat afgeval toe hy wheelie, nie sien sy buddy voor hom het gestop nie, en met die voorwiel neer sit toe te veel voorbriek gee tydens hierdie OH SHIT oomblik

Maar ja. who needs ABS
volgens hom, hy doen nogsteeds nie. EK dink sy 990 versekering claim was maar net R30k

Ek het ook nie tans ABS nie, maar ek gaan my nie uit laat vir n toffee hier nie

Ja, as jy wil wheely moet jy kan.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on March 12, 2021, 09:03:15 am
^seker waar.

EK het vroeg na ek die 990 gekry het (na ek gewoond is aan die 1190 met voorwiel ABS) te vinnig op verkeers sirkel afgekom en daai voorwiel seker twee keer skeef gedruk soos ek moes briek vir n nar wat toe nou sommer voor my gaan stop in die sirkel want ek lyk vir hom te vinnig (Wat ek was, maar nie as hy sou aanhou ry nie). Pad was vroeg oggend klam.

Hierdie is dual purpose fietse, mens het seker nie die ABS goed nodig as jy altyd vrek stadig op teer ry en net wil hard ry op grondpad nie, maar dan kon jy netsowel n WR450 ry. Nee, ek soek my brood aan beide kante gebotter, soos ek hom gewoond is en wat ek sou verwag vir R200k
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: w@nted on March 12, 2021, 09:27:32 am
^seker waar.

EK het vroeg na ek die 990 gekry het (na ek gewoond is aan die 1190 met voorwiel ABS) te vinnig op verkeers sirkel afgekom en daai voorwiel seker twee keer skeef gedruk soos ek moes briek vir n nar wat toe nou sommer voor my gaan stop in die sirkel want ek lyk vir hom te vinnig (Wat ek was, maar nie as hy sou aanhou ry nie). Pad was vroeg oggend klam.

Hierdie is dual purpose fietse, mens het seker nie die ABS goed nodig as jy altyd vrek stadig op teer ry en net wil hard ry op grondpad nie, maar dan kon jy netsowel n WR450 ry. Nee, ek soek my brood aan beide kante gebotter, soos ek hom gewoond is en wat ek sou verwag vir R200k

Hier le die crux...
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2021, 09:34:57 am
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:

Janee.  I was wondering about that myself. 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2021, 09:37:01 am
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys.... I've been riding for 47 years now without abs or other fensie electronics.... And I'm still alive!  :peepwall: :pot:

EK het n 990 buddy
jy klink soos hy

maar hy het sommer net 2 maande terug sy gat afgeval toe hy wheelie, nie sien sy buddy voor hom het gestop nie, en met die voorwiel neer sit toe te veel voorbriek gee tydens hierdie OH SHIT oomblik

Maar ja. who needs ABS
volgens hom, hy doen nogsteeds nie. EK dink sy 990 versekering claim was maar net R30k

Ek het ook nie tans ABS nie, maar ek gaan my nie uit laat vir n toffee hier nie

ABS kan meestal nie onoplettende ryers se gatte red nie.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on March 12, 2021, 09:42:10 am
I'm fine with not having ABS in normal riding but why make it out to be something "real riders don't need"? Trust me, in an emergency situation where you are about to crash into a car, the last thing on your mind is modulating brake pressure. If you even get a chance to hit the brakes, I don't care who you are, you are doing to hit them quick and hit them as hard as you can
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: punisher on March 12, 2021, 09:48:34 am
people who moan about ABS / traction control etc  should just go back to square wheels on their bikes and rigid suspension  ,  show us what real men you are
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Dwerg on March 12, 2021, 09:51:55 am
people who moan about ABS / traction control etc  should just go back to square wheels on their bikes and rigid suspension  ,  show us what real men you are

 :lol8:

Yeah you know what else doesn't have ABS? A horse
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 12, 2021, 09:54:33 am
people who moan about ABS / traction control etc  should just go back to square wheels on their bikes and rigid suspension  ,  show us what real men you are
Square wheels, come on that is just silly  :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on March 12, 2021, 10:56:12 am
Don't mock square wheels. They have excellent braking qualities and save a ton of weight with no need for ABS.

Or even brakes......... :3some:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 12, 2021, 11:32:12 am
Who needs abs?.... Fokkit boys....

Yip, that was me, I'll admit, especially so after owning a GS1150Adv which attempted to kill me regularly and on two occasions almost got that right.....  :-\
So, ABS was shit for me....
.... until you ride a KTM 790 Adv R!
That front-only ABS has actually saved me a few times already, on dirt mostly, it is absolutely awesome - and totally unobtrusive, I've actually never felt it working unless it had to!  :thumleft:

So, I'm now a fan - but only of very good systems, old shite is plain dangerous.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: bud500 on March 12, 2021, 12:46:46 pm

ABS kan meestal nie onoplettende ryers se gatte red nie.

Ek stem saam.
Maar oplet is nie die probleem as n kardrywer of n dier n kak besluit maak nie.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2021, 12:54:36 pm

ABS kan meestal nie onoplettende ryers se gatte red nie.

Ek stem saam.
Maar oplet is nie die probleem as n kardrywer of n dier n kak besluit maak nie.

Jy is doodreg. 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Grunder on March 12, 2021, 01:15:45 pm

ABS kan meestal nie onoplettende ryers se gatte red nie.

Ek stem saam.
Maar oplet is nie die probleem as n kardrywer of n dier n kak besluit maak nie.

Jy is doodreg.
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 13, 2021, 01:04:35 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on March 13, 2021, 08:24:25 am
See if a Yamaha one will fit. :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 13, 2021, 09:19:50 am
See if a Yamaha one will fit. :biggrin:

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: teebag on March 17, 2021, 11:10:08 am
I wonder how many have needed one of these, and how responsive local dealers would be in this situation

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Edgar on March 17, 2021, 11:28:13 am
I wonder how many have needed one of these, and how responsive local dealers would be in this situation

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 19, 2021, 12:15:20 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on March 19, 2021, 12:18:12 pm
I haven't worked this out yet. Which models are made in China, 690/790/890/1000+ ? Is there still a 790 in the dealers?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bappas on March 19, 2021, 12:47:25 pm
people who moan about ABS / traction control etc  should just go back to square wheels on their bikes and rigid suspension  ,  show us what real men you are

I am one of those ! But then I also do not have the latest smart phone to play with all day!  But that is by choice!

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 23, 2021, 07:24:29 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Cracker on March 23, 2021, 09:43:29 pm
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 24, 2021, 07:12:19 am
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 24, 2021, 07:17:13 am
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......

As clever as the guys on here defending a proven problematic model.......... :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 24, 2021, 07:35:26 am
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......

As clever as the guys on here defending a proven problematic model.......... :ricky:

2SD makes a valid point Alf7!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Odd Dog on March 24, 2021, 11:30:11 am
Valid points don't matter when you have the orange haze disease.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on March 24, 2021, 11:34:55 am
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......
Orange blinkers, sure all his buddies have KTM's too
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 24, 2021, 07:29:19 pm
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......

As clever as the guys on here defending a proven problematic model.......... :ricky:
Or....As clever as some people telling everbody else KTM is shit....
While riding their KTM's....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 24, 2021, 07:34:16 pm
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......

As clever as the guys on here defending a proven problematic model.......... :ricky:
Or....As clever as some people telling everbody else KTM is shit....
While riding their KTM's....

It's a KTM790 thread, not a KTM thread. There are many great Katooms.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 24, 2021, 07:57:48 pm
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......

As clever as the guys on here defending a proven problematic model.......... :ricky:
Or....As clever as some people telling everbody else KTM is shit....
While riding their KTM's....

It's a KTM790 thread, not a KTM thread. There are many great Katooms.

And yet.....neither you nor BO owned a 790.
Its a KTM thread....
Kom ek vertel jou gou wanneer jou persoonlike vendetta teen die 790 begin het:
Die dag toe die T7 land in Suid Afrika teen dieselfde prys as n 790....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on March 24, 2021, 10:25:07 pm
Kom ek vertel jou gou wanneer jou persoonlike vendetta teen die 790 begin het:
Die dag toe die T7 land in Suid Afrika teen dieselfde prys as n 790....

Wag Altie, ek sal gou tik wat jy net aangedui het met jou puntjies:
".... en daar's oorduidelik geen manier hoegenaamd nie om daai belaglik-hoe prys te regverdig teenoor die fully-laden 790 terwyl die ding oor die rest van die wereld vir R50,000.- minder verkoop word."
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 25, 2021, 08:01:38 am
I'm surprised Kirk can spell ........................  :biggrin:

Kirk is thinking about moving to a 890.
His 790 was so unreliable he decided to stick with the same brand......

As clever as the guys on here defending a proven problematic model.......... :ricky:
Or....As clever as some people telling everbody else KTM is shit....
While riding their KTM's....

It's a KTM790 thread, not a KTM thread. There are many great Katooms.

And yet.....neither you nor BO owned a 790.
Its a KTM thread....
Kom ek vertel jou gou wanneer jou persoonlike vendetta teen die 790 begin het:
Die dag toe die T7 land in Suid Afrika teen dieselfde prys as n 790....

Jy is reg, vir dieselfde prys as n T7 kry die KTM eienaar baie meer probleme. Sommige sien dit blykbaar as n bonus......
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 25, 2021, 02:54:02 pm
Not a KTM thread, please work on reading comprehension.  It is a 790 thread.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on March 25, 2021, 03:12:15 pm
Not a KTM thread, please work on reading comprehension.  It is a 790 thread.

Yip, every family has a problem child (or two)...... :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 25, 2021, 04:54:11 pm
Not a KTM thread, please work on reading comprehension.  It is a 790 thread.

Yip, every family has a problem child (or two)...... :lol8:

Every non-Japanese family, you meant to say. :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2021, 06:57:23 pm
Not a KTM thread, please work on reading comprehension.  It is a 790 thread.

Yip, every family has a problem child (or two)...... :lol8:

Every non-Japanese family, you meant to say. :deal:

Dis nou natuurlik, so aanvaar ek, 2020 MotoGP Yamaha kindertjies uitgesluit?   :snorting:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 25, 2021, 07:47:58 pm
Not a KTM thread, please work on reading comprehension.  It is a 790 thread.

Yip, every family has a problem child (or two)...... :lol8:

Every non-Japanese family, you meant to say. :deal:

Dis nou natuurlik, so aanvaar ek, 2020 MotoGP Yamaha kindertjies uitgesluit?   :snorting:

Waarom? Hulle het dan nog vir Honda geklop? :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2021, 07:57:57 pm
Not a KTM thread, please work on reading comprehension.  It is a 790 thread.

Yip, every family has a problem child (or two)...... :lol8:

Every non-Japanese family, you meant to say. :deal:

Dis nou natuurlik, so aanvaar ek, 2020 MotoGP Yamaha kindertjies uitgesluit?   :snorting:

Waarom? Hulle het dan nog vir Honda geklop? :deal:

Okay.  Dis waar.  So dan is daar nog Honda probleem kinnerkies ook!   :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 27, 2021, 08:21:05 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 30, 2021, 05:19:56 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 30, 2021, 09:58:23 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes

I know how you feel.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2021, 10:10:12 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes

At this moment in time, I hate mechanical crap on bikes!   :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 30, 2021, 10:16:30 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes

At this moment in time, I hate mechanical crap on bikes!   :lol8:

Looks like BMDebya.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2021, 10:21:33 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes

At this moment in time, I hate mechanical crap on bikes!   :lol8:

Looks like BMDebya.

Indeed.   >:(
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bill the Bong on March 30, 2021, 10:23:12 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes

At this moment in time, I hate mechanical crap on bikes!   :lol8:

Looks like BMDebya.

Indeed.   >:(

Looks like something you don't actually need on a BMW
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on March 30, 2021, 10:24:06 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2021, 10:29:43 am
Hmmm electronic crap...I hate electronic crap on bikes

At this moment in time, I hate mechanical crap on bikes!   :lol8:

Looks like BMDebya.

Indeed.   >:(

Looks like something you don't actually need on a BMW

It is of critical importance.  How would you know that it is time for its annual service without this?   :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on March 30, 2021, 11:35:07 am
Duh! Because it's annual?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on March 30, 2021, 12:41:43 pm
Duh! Because it's annual?

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on March 30, 2021, 02:16:53 pm
Duh! Because it's annual?

I can vouch some people cannot even remember this piece of info..... ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on April 02, 2021, 12:05:47 am
Oh dear. This man is in a pickle.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on April 02, 2021, 05:20:32 am
big oil i frequent the same facebook sites which you so selectively quote, but I am not that good with screenshots.
Dont you maybe want to paste some on the recent discussions where plenty guys sold their T7 and got 7/890s? There was some good info.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 02, 2021, 05:30:16 am
big oil i frequent the same facebook sites which you so selectively quote, but I am not that good with screenshots.
Dont you maybe want to paste some on the recent discussions where plenty guys sold their T7 and got 7/890s? There was some good info.
Feel free! 

While youíre at it, post all of the reliability issues regarding the T7 in a relative thread!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on April 02, 2021, 06:00:11 am
relative and on topic is so overated. Who wants that?


Oh dear. This man is in a pickle.

I have a problem with posts like these.
This guy asks for help, he never mentions he blew the shitty clutch on his shitty bike.
Now we assume its a reliability issue, and quote it here as such. We dont know what he did to that bike, he does. And he doesnt overly seem to blame the bike. The unenlightened us do.

I know its probably because the clutch cable was to tight, also an assumption and also irrelevant.

For example, another rider on this forum have blown clutches twice now, on his 990 and his 660XTZ. we know what he was doing with the bike and never blamed the bikes. But the 790's in this thread we do not know what they were doing but we like to blame the bike regardless.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 02, 2021, 10:42:08 am
relative and on topic is so overated. Who wants that?


Oh dear. This man is in a pickle.

I have a problem with posts like these.
This guy asks for help, he never mentions he blew the shitty clutch on his shitty bike.
Now we assume its a reliability issue, and quote it here as such. We dont know what he did to that bike, he does. And he doesnt overly seem to blame the bike. The unenlightened us do.

I know its probably because the clutch cable was to tight, also an assumption and also irrelevant.

For example, another rider on this forum have blown clutches twice now, on his 990 and his 660XTZ. we know what he was doing with the bike and never blamed the bikes. But the 790's in this thread we do not know what they were doing but we like to blame the bike regardless.

Come on, if a Alfa driver asks for help you just know it's a reliability issue. :pot:

Some models, and the 790 seem to be on, are just problem prone, and one cannot blame people for "assuming" or stereotyping when the internet supports the models woeful reliability.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2021, 11:42:14 am
Duh! Because it's annual?

Joke.




Your head.    :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on April 04, 2021, 12:06:52 pm
Poor old Matt who posted on Facebook yesterday morning is stuck in a shithole in Western Province called Overlander Roadhouse. They pump gas, sell some booze and have a campsite. However, it is a sealed road in and a sealed road out so we can't feel too sorry for Matt who would have been doing a steady 110kph on a dead flat road to get there. That must have challenged his big KTM!

Back in another shithole in the middle of f*ck all Australia this Aussie and his dog know that if you don't want to walk home like the owners of another well known brand then you need a YAMAHA.. This shithole is also the birth place of the first Aussie to die in service overseas - in Sunnyside, Pretoria. Don't know what the man was thinking about. You certainly wouldn't catch me walking around in Sunnyside 2021!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 05, 2021, 04:01:34 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 05, 2021, 04:04:59 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on April 05, 2021, 05:53:52 pm
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Brakes
That is the word he is looking for.
No wonder KTM cannot help him.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on April 05, 2021, 05:57:31 pm
So today a KTM 790, yes, a Husky 701 and a KTM 690 goes for a ride.
Guess what brakes down on the tar road, or asphalt, for our educated friend?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2021, 06:17:24 pm
So today a KTM 790, yes, a Husky 701 and a KTM 690 goes for a ride.
Guess what brakes down on the tar road, or asphalt, for our educated friend?

A BMW? :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wolzak on April 05, 2021, 06:26:59 pm
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: :spitcoffee: :imaposer: Everything looks looks suspect here.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2021, 06:28:52 pm
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: :spitcoffee: :imaposer: Everything looks looks suspect here.

Yip. It's an Indo-China business. :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 05, 2021, 08:05:50 pm
for our educated friend?

Such member are here?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2021, 08:37:52 pm
for our educated friend?

Such member are here?

Yes, he made grade 9. :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: LegoBrew on April 05, 2021, 08:50:50 pm
for our educated friend?

Such member are here?

Yes, he made grade 9. :pot:

Yirre, julle is wreed. Hy het ten minste Speed Cop geword ook? :deal:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Runner on April 05, 2021, 08:51:48 pm
for our educated friend?

Such member are here?

Yes, he made grade 9. :pot:

On the first try? :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2021, 08:54:07 pm
for our educated friend?

Such member are here?

Yes, he made grade 9. :pot:

On the first try? :peepwall:

No, third, did not want to rush his course.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 06, 2021, 12:20:45 am
English is not an easy language to master for some immigrants. 

Let us not focus on breaks or brakes, focus on the poorly manufactured components on an expensive to maintain KTM 790.  ;) :biggrin:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 06, 2021, 09:43:29 am
Yes, he made grade 9.

Gaan kak man, jy wil my net jaloers maak!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 06, 2021, 09:46:36 am
Yes, he made grade 9.

Gaan kak man, jy wil my net jaloers maak!

En dit werk nie!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 06, 2021, 09:47:12 am
Yes, he made grade 9.

Gaan kak man, jy wil my net jaloers maak!

En dit werk nie!

Glad nie.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 06, 2021, 09:47:43 am
Yes, he made grade 9.

Gaan kak man, jy wil my net jaloers maak!

En dit werk nie!

Glad nie.

Niks!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 06, 2021, 06:06:19 pm
If the brakes warp, why not just fit aftermarket alternatives?

Why discredit the entire bike for something relatively minor?

Nothing is perfect.


Sent from my IN2013 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2021, 06:33:21 pm
If the brakes warp, why not just fit aftermarket alternatives?

Why discredit the entire bike for something relatively minor?

Nothing is perfect.


Sent from my IN2013 using Tapatalk

Brake discs warped on basically a brand new bike?  Nothing is perfect, but on a new bike it should be close enough to perfect to last more than a few thousand kilos.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 06, 2021, 07:20:03 pm
If the brakes warp, why not just fit aftermarket alternatives?

Why discredit the entire bike for something relatively minor?

Nothing is perfect.


Sent from my IN2013 using Tapatalk

Brake discs warped on basically a brand new bike?  Nothing is perfect, but on a new bike it should be close enough to perfect to last more than a few thousand kilos.


So what would you do?
Ride around with warped rotors?
Wait months for a warranty claim?
Change to a lesser alternative? (T7 or whatever)
Moan like a little bitch on social media?
Fit aftermarket rotors and upgrade it at the same time?

Sent from my IN2013 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 06, 2021, 07:50:06 pm
If the brakes warp, why not just fit aftermarket alternatives?

Why discredit the entire bike for something relatively minor?

Nothing is perfect.


Sent from my IN2013 using Tapatalk

Brake discs warped on basically a brand new bike?  Nothing is perfect, but on a new bike it should be close enough to perfect to last more than a few thousand kilos.


So what would you do?
Ride around with warped rotors?
Wait months for a warranty claim?
Change to a lesser alternative? (T7 or whatever)
Moan like a little bitch on social media?
Fit aftermarket rotors and upgrade it at the same time?

Sent from my IN2013 using Tapatalk

It's mostly KTM riders moaning like little bitches on social media. :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 07, 2021, 08:35:56 am
Hey, if this is about breaks then spell 'moning' please?
Dyslexic lot you's!  O0
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 07, 2021, 08:41:03 am
Dit is lekkerder om met `n Alfa te ry, as om agter die stuur van `n Toyota aan die slaap te raak.
Orange Kool aid is nogsteeds die nanas...... ;)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: jaybiker on April 07, 2021, 04:41:38 pm
Breaks = "fails to remain intact and functional".

So, no misspelling at all. Right?  :pot: >:D
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 07, 2021, 06:23:19 pm
Dit is lekkerder om met `n Alfa te ry, as om agter die stuur van `n Toyota aan die slaap te raak.
Orange Kool aid is nogsteeds die nanas...... ;)

Agter die stuur van n Toyota aan die slaap raak is die enigste manier wat jy nie jou bestemming sal bereik nie.....ekse maar net oubaas.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 07, 2021, 09:04:03 pm
Enige Alfa man se eind bestemming is die hemel. Want ons het klaar ons hel.op aarde gehad.
Ek se maar net jongman. :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 07, 2021, 09:07:08 pm
Enige Alfa man se eind bestemming is die hemel. Want ons het klaar ons hel.op aarde gehad.
Ek se maar net jongman. :peepwall:

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2021, 10:46:02 am
Dit is lekkerder om met `n Alfa te ry, as om agter die stuur van `n Toyota aan die slaap te raak.
Orange Kool aid is nogsteeds die nanas...... ;)

Agter die stuur van n Toyota aan die slaap raak is die enigste manier wat jy nie jou bestemming sal bereik nie.....ekse maar net oubaas.

Daar is geen manier wat mens agter die stuur van 'n nuwerwetse Toyota aan die slaap kan raak nie.  Dis te f*kken ongemaklik!   :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 08, 2021, 12:03:50 pm
Dit is lekkerder om met `n Alfa te ry, as om agter die stuur van `n Toyota aan die slaap te raak.
Orange Kool aid is nogsteeds die nanas...... ;)

Agter die stuur van n Toyota aan die slaap raak is die enigste manier wat jy nie jou bestemming sal bereik nie.....ekse maar net oubaas.

Daar is geen manier wat mens agter die stuur van 'n nuwerwetse Toyota aan die slaap kan raak nie.  Dis te f*kken ongemaklik!   :lol8:

En daar's mooses in die pad!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2021, 02:48:52 pm
Dit is lekkerder om met `n Alfa te ry, as om agter die stuur van `n Toyota aan die slaap te raak.
Orange Kool aid is nogsteeds die nanas...... ;)

Agter die stuur van n Toyota aan die slaap raak is die enigste manier wat jy nie jou bestemming sal bereik nie.....ekse maar net oubaas.

Daar is geen manier wat mens agter die stuur van 'n nuwerwetse Toyota aan die slaap kan raak nie.  Dis te f*kken ongemaklik!   :lol8:

En daar's mooses in die pad!

Ja en ons weet wat het hy met die Egiptenare gedoe .... ooooh!  Jy bedoel daai moerse groot bokgoeters in NoorweŽ.   :snorting:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 08, 2021, 04:18:25 pm
En daar's mooses in die pad!

Ja en ons weet wat het hy met die Egiptenare gedoe .... ooooh!  Jy bedoel daai moerse groot bokgoeters in NoorweŽ.   :snorting:

Nei man, kom ek verduidelik.
Daan's vanni Kaap, en daar's mos aantreklike kollord poppies.
En as jy vir ene se jy sal vir haar die oceaan oorkruis dan sal sy se "Oeoe wag, jinne, ie kom Moses!"
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 08, 2021, 07:43:38 pm
En daar's mooses in die pad!

Ja en ons weet wat het hy met die Egiptenare gedoe .... ooooh!  Jy bedoel daai moerse groot bokgoeters in NoorweŽ.   :snorting:

Nei man, kom ek verduidelik.
Daan's vanni Kaap, en daar's mos aantreklike kollord poppies.
En as jy vir ene se jy sal vir haar die oceaan oorkruis dan sal sy se "Oeoe wag, jinne, ie kom Moses!"

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on April 09, 2021, 09:31:07 am
En daar's mooses in die pad!

Ja en ons weet wat het hy met die Egiptenare gedoe .... ooooh!  Jy bedoel daai moerse groot bokgoeters in NoorweŽ.   :snorting:

Nei man, kom ek verduidelik.
Daan's vanni Kaap, en daar's mos aantreklike kollord poppies.
En as jy vir ene se jy sal vir haar die oceaan oorkruis dan sal sy se "Oeoe wag, jinne, ie kom Moses!"

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Hmmmm .... hoe gryp 2-Stroke Moses jou? 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 09, 2021, 02:14:01 pm
En daar's mooses in die pad!

Ja en ons weet wat het hy met die Egiptenare gedoe .... ooooh!  Jy bedoel daai moerse groot bokgoeters in NoorweŽ.   :snorting:

Nei man, kom ek verduidelik.
Daan's vanni Kaap, en daar's mos aantreklike kollord poppies.
En as jy vir ene se jy sal vir haar die oceaan oorkruis dan sal sy se "Oeoe wag, jinne, ie kom Moses!"

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Hmmmm .... hoe gryp 2-Stroke Moses jou?

He won't split the Red sea, he'll pollute it. :ricky:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 19, 2021, 07:50:34 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 19, 2021, 08:25:13 am
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 19, 2021, 09:44:22 am
Man, those poor clutch plates

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 20, 2021, 07:45:17 pm
Man, those poor clutch plates

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: AfricaOffroad on April 20, 2021, 08:06:49 pm
Can anyone point me to the clutch oil jet being referred to here. Iíve worked on a lot of wet clutches but not aware of an oil jet design. To my untrained eye those clutch plates look like a typically abused clutch, caused from bad riding technique or riding serious technical terrain with a bike not intended for that application.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Blikkies1 on April 20, 2021, 08:28:42 pm
I believe the 990 has an oil jet for the clutch too, came across mention of it in some online fault finding threads but never seen it myself.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 20, 2021, 10:06:07 pm
Googled, and the 790 has an oil jet inthe centre of the clutch, according to KTMUSA, these get cleaned on the 1000km service.

Perhaps this is why the clutches are problematic, these jets seem to block up from the threadlocker that KTM themselves apply in the factory??

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 20, 2021, 11:58:53 pm
Googled, and the 790 has an oil jet inthe centre of the clutch, according to KTMUSA, these get cleaned on the 1000km service.

Perhaps this is why the clutches are problematic, these jets seem to block up from the threadlocker that KTM themselves apply in the factory??
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 21, 2021, 10:56:18 am
Can anyone point me to the clutch oil jet being referred to here.

Right there, in that hole!
A mod exists (google please) to increase this tiny hole a little by drilling it larger, however only very little (tenths of a mil...) due to oilpressure having to be maintained in the engine.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: AfricaOffroad on April 21, 2021, 03:16:16 pm
That just looks like the hole that the clutch basket pushrod sits in?
Is it connected to the oil pump system somehow?
Most wet clutch bikes systems get lubed by splashfeed from rotating gearbox parts
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on April 21, 2021, 03:20:48 pm
That just looks like the hole that the clutch basket pushrod sits in?
Is it connected to the oil pump system somehow?
Most wet clutch bikes systems get lubed by splashfeed from rotating gearbox parts
What I thought as well, cant see any oil jet sitting inside there  ???
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Odd Dog on April 21, 2021, 04:36:59 pm
FFS you have to start drilling holes on a bike with 1600km on and there are people here defending this piece of ..............(place the subject title here). ::)
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 21, 2021, 06:18:15 pm
That just looks like the hole that the clutch basket pushrod sits in?

No pushrod, lever sits on the RHS - and yes, it's an oilfeed from the engine.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 21, 2021, 06:20:31 pm
cant see any oil jet sitting inside there

Promise there is one!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on April 22, 2021, 03:22:55 pm
its the same setup as on the 990, with the same cause and solution.

is it a known issue for the 990?
you decide, if you are a 990 use and abuser, then you know that you have to drill your oil jet to 0.5mm.
so same thing applies to 790, if you plan to abuse this clutch you need to drill that out. Other bikes will also break with this abuse and require mods
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 22, 2021, 04:05:30 pm
In today's millennial cancel culture, everything must mos be perfect.

Try to picture one of these USA millennial poefters, drilling a 0.5mm hole.

You ask too much!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 22, 2021, 04:17:47 pm
you have to drill your oil jet to 0.5mm

Be VERY careful with your advice here, VERY careful!
Afaik the 790's jet is already that size, and just drilling 'bigger' may cause your engine's oilpressure to drop too much (for the engine itself) or fall away entirely!
Also, if you have a bocked jet then perhaps cleaning it would be the ticket?
After all, Dan's remark "these jets seem to block up from the threadlocker that KTM themselves apply" may just be true, and this is likely to be a once-off cleaning if you do it!

As I said (above) Google this mod first  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bappas on April 22, 2021, 04:29:21 pm
you have to drill your oil jet to 0.5mm

Be VERY careful with your advice here, VERY careful!
Afaik the 790's jet is already that size, and just drilling 'bigger' may cause your engine's oilpressure to drop too much (for the engine itself) or fall away entirely!
Also, if you have a bocked jet then perhaps cleaning it would be the ticket?
After all, Dan's remark "these jets seem to block up from the threadlocker that KTM themselves apply" may just be true, and this is likely to be a once-off cleaning if you do it!

As I said (above) Google this mod first  :thumleft:

Can not agree more!!!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 22, 2021, 05:25:58 pm
In today's millennial cancel culture, everything must mos be perfect.

Try to picture one of these USA millennial poefters, drilling a 0.5mm hole.

You ask too much!

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So years and years of winning Dakar taught KTM fokkkkol?

How do you market a machine as "READY TO RACE", but the clutch is only "READY TO SHOP"?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on April 22, 2021, 06:23:28 pm
Try to picture one of these USA millennial poefters, drilling a 0.5mm hole.

 :P
They may not even drill but just force it bigger with their whopper!
 :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tommy Transalp on April 22, 2021, 06:29:20 pm
All these riding gods are too fat for these bikes!
KTM clutches burning, T7s breaking suspension links, etc.
 :laughing4: :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on April 22, 2021, 06:48:00 pm
All these riding gods are too fat for these bikes!
KTM clutches burning, T7s breaking suspension links, etc.
 :laughing4: :pot:
Read again you are confusing T7 with broken AJP links
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 22, 2021, 06:49:11 pm
All these riding gods are too fat for these bikes!
KTM clutches burning, T7s breaking suspension links, etc.
 :laughing4: :pot:

Jy moet oplet in die klas Tommie! :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: chopperpilot on April 22, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
All these riding gods are too fat for these bikes!
KTM clutches burning, T7s breaking suspension links, etc.
 :laughing4: :pot:
En Hondas se voorwiele wat lock!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Herkules on April 22, 2021, 07:08:56 pm
All these riding gods are too fat for these bikes!
KTM clutches burning, T7s breaking suspension links, etc.
 :laughing4: :pot:
En Hondas se voorwiele wat lock!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 22, 2021, 07:11:22 pm
In today's millennial cancel culture, everything must mos be perfect.

Try to picture one of these USA millennial poefters, drilling a 0.5mm hole.

You ask too much!

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So years and years of winning Dakar taught KTM fokkkkol?

How do you market a machine as "READY TO RACE", but the clutch is only "READY TO SHOP"?


I'm sure there's some woke group out there that will share your sentiment.

If you want the 'race' bike with best suspension and strongest motor, you shouldn't expect agter-os Yamaha reliability.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 22, 2021, 08:02:16 pm
Al klaar op bladsy 24!
Nog n legend bike deur KTM.
Ek kan die suspense nie meer vat nie, tyd om hierdie outjie te gaan ry!
Tyd om vir oom John Carr te gaan opsoek.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 22, 2021, 08:13:27 pm
In today's millennial cancel culture, everything must mos be perfect.

Try to picture one of these USA millennial poefters, drilling a 0.5mm hole.

You ask too much!

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So years and years of winning Dakar taught KTM fokkkkol?

How do you market a machine as "READY TO RACE", but the clutch is only "READY TO SHOP"?


I'm sure there's some woke group out there that will share your sentiment.

If you want the 'race' bike with best suspension and strongest motor, you shouldn't expect agter-os Yamaha reliability.

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You're not talkig MotoGP, are you? ;)

But no, we're not expecting reliability, this is what the thread is trying to point out.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 22, 2021, 08:48:07 pm
Yes, the purpose of this thread is to provide a safe space for non-owners of this bike, to complain about issues they are not experiencing.



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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on April 23, 2021, 12:51:52 am
It looks like you can now miss out the middle man at your KTM dealership and buy the bike directly from the Chinese. It would be funny if they have sorted out the gremlins when they launch it in their own name.


https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/cfmoto-800mt-revealed-ktm-powered-adventure-motorcycle
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on April 23, 2021, 07:12:10 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2021, 07:31:10 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd

I hear that it comes with quick release clutch cover, extra big rear shock oil reservoir [5litres of sunflower oil], and the toolkit includes practical things like a disposable drill complete with 0,499mm drillbit, nice roll

of 60grit sandpaper, and a year's free subscription to Uber.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 23, 2021, 07:52:03 am
:imaposer:

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: skydiver on April 23, 2021, 07:56:23 am
The Chinese changed the slogan "Ready to Race" and copyrighted their own "A Readily Available Mod for Every Known Issue"  :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: OomD on April 23, 2021, 08:07:02 am
Maybe the chinese character for "race" looks very similar to the one for "fix"...

Ready to race
Ready to fix

Same same.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: sidetrack on April 23, 2021, 08:28:51 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd

I hear that it comes with quick release clutch cover, extra big rear shock oil reservoir [5litres of sunflower oil], and the toolkit includes practical things like a disposable drill complete with 0,499mm drillbit, nice roll

of 60grit sandpaper, and a year's free subscription to Uber.
No silicone to seal your airbox ?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Tyre kicker on April 23, 2021, 09:24:17 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd

I hear that it comes with quick release clutch cover, extra big rear shock oil reservoir [5litres of sunflower oil], and the toolkit includes practical things like a disposable drill complete with 0,499mm drillbit, nice roll

of 60grit sandpaper, and a year's free subscription to Uber.
No silicone to seal your airbox ?
..
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 23, 2021, 09:36:28 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd

I hear that it comes with quick release clutch cover, extra big rear shock oil reservoir [5litres of sunflower oil], and the toolkit includes practical things like a disposable drill complete with 0,499mm drillbit, nice roll

of 60grit sandpaper, and a year's free subscription to Uber.

 :spitcoffee:  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on April 23, 2021, 10:25:46 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd

I hear that it comes with quick release clutch cover, extra big rear shock oil reservoir [5litres of sunflower oil], and the toolkit includes practical things like a disposable drill complete with 0,499mm drillbit, nice roll

of 60grit sandpaper, and a year's free subscription to Uber.

Plus a free GPS with routes to BMW dealers pre-installed.   :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 23, 2021, 10:42:09 am
thats awesome ^

a triumph with ktm engine and chinese badging. Hopefully chinese pricing may yet make it a good seller. How strong is their manufacturing capacity? THis does look physically big and bulky, unlike the norm for chinese, which is odd

I hear that it comes with quick release clutch cover, extra big rear shock oil reservoir [5litres of sunflower oil], and the toolkit includes practical things like a disposable drill complete with 0,499mm drillbit, nice roll

of 60grit sandpaper, and a year's free subscription to Uber.
No silicone to seal your airbox ?

No, they want to sell those duff piston kits.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: IanTheTooth on April 29, 2021, 12:24:24 am
And this one is not even Chinese. Or is it?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on April 29, 2021, 07:33:53 am
strange ^

no emotion again, no blaming the shock, no -I need to get a different bike- drama

owner probably know what de did with the bike, leave it to us to blame KTM
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Roxtar on April 29, 2021, 12:44:41 pm
If I had to visit a place with a name like that I would also have a break-down.... :lol8:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wolzak on April 29, 2021, 01:02:10 pm
strange ^

no emotion again, no blaming the shock, no -I need to get a different bike- drama

owner probably know what de did with the bike, leave it to us to blame KTM
This Bloke can't even take a Picture of his Bike, he can't spell either and then he wants a seal at a reasonable Price. Sies tog.
WaC
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: m0lt3n on April 29, 2021, 03:57:17 pm
strange ^

no emotion again, no blaming the shock, no -I need to get a different bike- drama

owner probably know what de did with the bike, leave it to us to blame KTM
This Bloke can't even take a Picture of his Bike, he can't spell either and then he wants a seal at a reasonable Price. Sies tog.
WaC

haha hy heel moontlik afrikaans!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Edgar on April 30, 2021, 07:26:27 am
You have to be a real sick person to blow a seal. I don't think the SPCA would like that....
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: voorvel on April 30, 2021, 08:05:22 am
You have to be a real sick person to blow a seal. I don't think the SPCA would like that....
Does it's color matter?
Could be less obscene if it's navy


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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on April 30, 2021, 06:01:08 pm
You have to be a real sick person to blow a seal. I don't think the SPCA would like that....

 :spitcoffee:  :imaposer:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: TheBear on May 02, 2021, 11:10:28 pm
You have to be a real sick person to blow a seal. I don't think the SPCA would like that....

Would the SPCA be jealous for not getting blown?
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wolzak on July 09, 2021, 08:46:46 pm
That Fucker should really trim his Pubes before he takes Fodies while sitting on his Bike smoking Pot.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 09, 2021, 09:57:08 pm
Chinese and Indians has small hands, they cannot turn those hose clamps tight enough.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 09, 2021, 10:53:29 pm
Chinese and Indians has small hands, they cannot turn those hose clamps tight enough.

In my opinion, loose fasteners on fresh out of the crate bikes, on such an expensive bike for what it is, from the Ready to Race company, is unacceptable. 
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on July 10, 2021, 09:16:31 am
In my opinion, loose fasteners on fresh out of the crate bikes, on such an expensive bike for what it is, from the Ready to Race company, is unacceptable.

There's a youtube about this, that new knobbly Harley with that letterbox headlight up in smoke.......
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 10, 2021, 09:19:23 am
In my opinion, loose fasteners on fresh out of the crate bikes, on such an expensive bike for what it is, from the Ready to Race company, is unacceptable.

There's a youtube about this, that new knobbly Harley with that letterbox headlight up in smoke.......

But isn't Harley often associated with Indian? :pot:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on July 10, 2021, 09:22:42 am
In my opinion, loose fasteners on fresh out of the crate bikes, on such an expensive bike for what it is, from the Ready to Race company, is unacceptable.

There's a youtube about this, that new knobbly Harley with that letterbox headlight up in smoke.......

But isn't Harley often associated with Indian?

Now that you mention it, clearly so!
Runs in the family ma China  :P
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 10, 2021, 10:04:00 am
In my opinion, loose fasteners on fresh out of the crate bikes, on such an expensive bike for what it is, from the Ready to Race company, is unacceptable.

There's a youtube about this, that new knobbly Harley with that letterbox headlight up in smoke.......

Yes, a single PA had a loose coolant hose clamp.  A far cry from the abysmal rep KTM has with loose fasteners, often from the factory. But, what can you expect from a company that outsources manufacturing to the lowest bidder.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Altie7deLaan on July 10, 2021, 12:35:26 pm
Well there you have it.
Harley dont outsource cheap workmanship, it gets done inhouse. :peepwall:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wayne on July 10, 2021, 01:26:20 pm
Well there you have it.
Harley dont outsource cheap workmanship, it gets done inhouse. :peepwall:
Not a bad plan in the end. Should save a bit of money if you do the cheap workmanship inhouse.

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 10, 2021, 05:34:39 pm
Well there you have it.
Harley dont outsource cheap workmanship, it gets done inhouse. :peepwall:
Not a bad plan in the end. Should save a bit of money if you do the cheap workmanship inhouse.

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I'm curious where the PA is manufactured, anyone read where?

It's growing on me.  According to the most recent review I read, the ugly front cowl, that I loathe looking at, was designed in a wind tunnel to smooth the air around the rider.  Apparently, they did a great job with wind management and the rider sits in a comfortable smooth pocket of air.  The reviewer claimed the PA is more comfortable than the previous most comfortable bike in the class, the GS.  However, the most troubling thing for me, the reviewer claimed the bike felt soft on low end power and for my personal tastes, I like a lot of low end and mid-range, I don't care for a screaming top-end anymore. 

Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on July 12, 2021, 08:36:07 am
Shit @Bo welcome back, again!
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 12, 2021, 08:43:02 am
Shit @Bo welcome back, again!

 :thumleft: Thank ya very much.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on July 12, 2021, 09:42:33 am
I think KTM is like ALFA, if you are a real petrol head or biker you have to own one at least ones in your life. The thrill of driving and Alfa or riding a KTM is fantastic and you learn to live with the faults, you might even be lucky enough get one that's reliable.  But then you buy it for the thrill experience nothing ells  >:D  :thumleft:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Herkules on July 12, 2021, 09:51:19 am
That Fucker should really trim his Pubes before he takes Fodies while sitting on his Bike smoking Pot.

 :sip: That sounds like talking from experience.  :bueller:  :3some:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: BuRP on July 12, 2021, 10:47:51 am
That Fucker should really trim his Pubes before he takes Fodies while sitting on his Bike smoking Pot.

That sounds like talking from experience.

Yeah, I also was thinking that.




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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Wolzak on July 12, 2021, 05:16:59 pm
That Fucker should really trim his Pubes before he takes Fodies while sitting on his Bike smoking Pot.

 :sip: That sounds like talking from experience.  :bueller:  :3some:
Stadig met die Koffie OUbaas.
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790 Strikes Again
Post by: Herkules on July 12, 2021, 05:33:59 pm
That Fucker should really trim his Pubes before he takes Fodies while sitting on his Bike smoking Pot.

 :sip: That sounds like talking from experience.  :bueller:  :3some:
Stadig met die Koffie OUbaas.
:sip: Dit was bietjie vroeg vir ietsie innie koffie.  :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 19, 2021, 05:32:42 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 19, 2021, 05:34:05 pm
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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: big oil on July 19, 2021, 05:35:52 pm
Terry John = wise!

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Title: Re: IndoChina Piece of Monkey Shit 790/890 Strikes Again
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 19, 2021, 10:45:38 pm
I have read a year or two ago that ktm plans to buy back the 48% shares Bajaj India owns in the company.

Now, these quality issues, do they stem from the almost half ownership by an Indian company, or from KTM having gone back to their own self.