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Title: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 18, 2020, 02:36:46 pm
Hi all. Its great to be on this page.  I have bought a 2017  701 from my nephew  . Thanks Gregg.  It has 14300kms on the clock. Came with a Akro, Rade long range tank and pannier frames.Like i am ,I have been going through this bike top to bottom. And adding more bits. Thanks to Big Dom. I have been picking his brain a lot. Thanks mate for your help.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 18, 2020, 02:40:07 pm
Congrats!

You'll enjoy that bike, of that I am sure!!
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 18, 2020, 02:47:51 pm
Yesterday i fitted a AXP bashplate and folding mirrors . Still to come. KTM white barkbusters. New Dunlop D606 Tyre ,Golan fuel filter and a side stand by pass dongle. I have fitted a magnet in the mean time but don't trust it. And of course the bike fell off the stand while i was fitting new front brake shoes. So i went and bought the pit stand.
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Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on December 18, 2020, 03:22:46 pm
congratulations, Ian, brilliant bike, many miles - and smiles  -ahead!
Enjoy
Chris
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Post by: JonW on December 18, 2020, 03:24:44 pm
Well done Ian, nice bike?

Now you got to come riding with us sometime  :ricky:
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Post by: BuRP on December 18, 2020, 04:54:32 pm
@ianb ,

Before you get all yer farkles, FIRST get a Guglatech filter for your tankfiller: no more rubbish goes in, and this includes water you will inevitably pour in your tank when filling up at a petrol station >>>> thus loadsa potential problems minimized!  :thumleft:
Then go farkle to your heart's content  ;)

I also have a 701, yer gonna lurv the bugger  :P
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Post by: Noneking on December 18, 2020, 04:59:39 pm
Congratulations Ian. Great bike!
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on December 18, 2020, 05:41:36 pm
Now you got to come riding with us sometime

He will have to now Jon... but, if you dudes allow 'moi' also then let's chat  :thumleft:
Can bring a 500 also, no idea what you intend to ride then - throw Ian in at a very steep end?  :P
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on December 18, 2020, 05:45:41 pm
congratulations Ian, read here and shout if you have any questions 701 Mods and Farkles
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Also check with Gregg if he had the slave seal replaced, it will let you down...


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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: 777 on December 18, 2020, 06:34:01 pm
Nice one Ian, still got your 790? I owned a 690 for six years. Very nice bike.
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Post by: ianb on December 19, 2020, 07:55:41 am
Thanks chaps. Yes the 790 will stay.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on December 22, 2020, 07:01:06 am
@ianb ,

Before you get all yer farkles, FIRST get a Guglatech filter for your tankfiller: no more rubbish goes in, and this includes water you will inevitably pour in your tank when filling up at a petrol station >>>> thus loadsa potential problems minimized!  :thumleft:
Then go farkle to your heart's content  ;)

I also have a 701, yer gonna lurv the bugger  :P

Rather buy their newer filter for the actual fuel pump. The main filler filter is a big PIA - fine on the R/G underseat tank but irritatingly slow to fill the main tank and I had one fall into the tank (we have them on two 701's on both tanks).
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on December 22, 2020, 07:05:50 am
Further: If you do not have one yet get a fuelling dongle - sorts out the lean running at low revs and the on/off throttle response (exacerbated with the Akra and R/G airbox). A PCV is first prize but the Rotty fuelling dongle is a good start.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on December 22, 2020, 10:24:12 am
@ianb ,

Before you get all yer farkles, FIRST get a Guglatech filter for your tankfiller: no more rubbish goes in, and this includes water you will inevitably pour in your tank when filling up at a petrol station >>>> thus loadsa potential problems minimized!  :thumleft:
Then go farkle to your heart's content  ;)

I also have a 701, yer gonna lurv the bugger  :P

Rather buy their newer filter for the actual fuel pump. The main filler filter is a big PIA - fine on the R/G underseat tank but irritatingly slow to fill the main tank and I had one fall into the tank (we have them on two 701's on both tanks).
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Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 22, 2020, 10:27:44 am
What an awesome bike, I am a little green with envy  :ricky:
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on December 22, 2020, 12:38:13 pm
@ianb ,

Before you get all yer farkles, FIRST get a Guglatech filter for your tankfiller: no more rubbish goes in, and this includes water you will inevitably pour in your tank when filling up at a petrol station >>>> thus loadsa potential problems minimized!  :thumleft:
Then go farkle to your heart's content  ;)

I also have a 701, yer gonna lurv the bugger  :P

Rather buy their newer filter for the actual fuel pump. The main filler filter is a big PIA - fine on the R/G underseat tank but irritatingly slow to fill the main tank and I had one fall into the tank (we have them on two 701's on both tanks).

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Flying Brick or LoCoMoTo should be able to supply.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 23, 2020, 10:38:23 am
A few updates. I fitted a old exc fuel cap to the Rade tank.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 23, 2020, 10:39:41 am
New D606 Tyre  looks the business.
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Post by: ianb on December 23, 2020, 10:41:19 am
Fitted the rack at the back. I will be making a few racks that will be better than this.
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Post by: ianb on December 23, 2020, 10:43:06 am
Bike is starting to look better.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 23, 2020, 10:45:45 am
Licencing is now done. So it is no longer a Cape bike.  I have just got some new Power products Hand guards. I find the engineering quality to be brilliant.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on December 23, 2020, 11:45:28 am
Fitted the rack at the back. I will be making a few racks that will be better than this.

There are a lot of racks out there - Perun Moto seems to be the bench mark though. I have avoided one so far as I am not a fan of hanging stuff out back on my bikes as inevitably the cantilever forces tend to damage something. A small tailbag though is great and at present I use the OEM tail rails for attaching one. The best design though that I have seen imho retains some grab handles in the rack design which is a great feature of the OEM handles - they are brilliant for gripping the bike when moving it around and also if you need to retrieve it in the rough. I will look for a pic.  :thumleft: 

OK the rack with the integrated grab handles that I like is made by Borys Uszatek - 3D Moto in Poland, Eastern Europe. He also make a great Fat Bertha brake lever etc.  https://www.3dmoto.pl/
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 23, 2020, 01:01:58 pm
Those look good. I can make them for about R800.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on December 23, 2020, 01:52:24 pm
Those look good. I can make them for about R800.


These are alu not steel and also have a double plate (for strength I think) at the rear. I need to investigate them closer but he has integrated some nice design elements like the holes for guys with Rotopax and strap quick release slots etc.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on December 23, 2020, 02:58:59 pm
get a Guglatech filter for your tankfiller

Rather buy their newer filter for the actual fuel pump.

No Big, that's putting the donkey behind the cart.
Best to prevent shit to enter the tank, hence the filler-filter being best!
Yeah, filling up takes a few seconds more, but come on now, I've never been that haastig hmm?  :P
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on December 23, 2020, 03:26:47 pm
get a Guglatech filter for your tankfiller

Rather buy their newer filter for the actual fuel pump.

No Big, that's putting the donkey behind the cart.
Best to prevent shit to enter the tank, hence the filler-filter being best!
Yeah, filling up takes a few seconds more, but come on now, I've never been that haastig hmm?  :P

More than a few seconds more - often like 5 minutes more of dribbling and frothing over ::). And yes the filter is properly fitted and spread out in the very narrow angled neck. As I say I still have the filler filters in both tanks on two bikes, but not sure I would do the rear again like that. I think with the pump covered and the in-tank filter removed and an external Golan one would be good to go. But sure each filter does a job.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on December 23, 2020, 04:17:02 pm
I am keen on a rack... and the part numbers for those hand-guards  :thumleft:
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on December 24, 2020, 09:09:04 am
I am keen on a rack

@Toys2Go , kommin plies, Jan is on here  :P
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on December 24, 2020, 09:28:16 am
The hand guards are from KTM . I fitted them yesterday. Power products. Orange, Black or White plastics available.  I fitted black for now but white on order. What i like is the bend accommodates your long standard levers. And the clamp part that clamps onto the handlebars has a swivel for the alu guards . So it adjusts to the profile. All the edges are rounded, Just way better quality. And not badly priced. About R1600. 
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on January 08, 2021, 02:10:12 pm
A few more upgrades added.  Wider foot pegs and slightly lower ,
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on January 08, 2021, 02:12:14 pm
 A air cleaner foam mod, I used plastic garden fence . To make a cage.
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Post by: ianb on January 08, 2021, 02:15:06 pm
I have always cut deeper groves on my KTM bikes chain adjuster blocks, so i can see easier when making adjustments. Its just me.
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Post by: voorvel on January 08, 2021, 11:23:19 pm
A few more upgrades added.  Wider foot pegs and slightly lower ,
These are nice.
How much lower and can you make something for the 2017+ ktm exc?

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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Aprilian on January 09, 2021, 07:42:14 am
A air cleaner foam mod, I used plastic garden fence . To make a cage.
This fits over paper filter and under plastic cover / snorkel bit? Do you seal with grease or silicone?

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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on January 09, 2021, 08:27:34 am
The Rack is in progress , I have the proto type, I have designed it wider . I prefer wider so a duffel bag can lay across without tilting over to one side. Pic to follow. I never made the foot pegs.  The foam air filter is from the Rade tank mod. It has a metal cage inside, Which long story causes problems with sealing. So this plastic inner cage will do the trick.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BLK on January 09, 2021, 08:33:38 am
You maybe interested.I put this screen on my new 2020 690 from Bikers Warehouse.Brackets connect to Cycra hand guards.I find it excellent.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on January 09, 2021, 08:39:14 am
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Post by: ianb on January 09, 2021, 08:39:56 am
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Post by: ianb on January 09, 2021, 08:41:20 am
I prefer the smaller screens.  But for now i am not going to run a screen.
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Post by: BiG DoM on January 09, 2021, 08:42:46 am
You maybe interested.I put this screen on my new 2020 690 from Bikers Warehouse.Brackets connect to Cycra hand guards.I find it excellent.

That screen looks quite tall - do you have pics of it fitted to your bike? Also pics of how it attaches to the Cycra gaurds would be good (worries me a bit as any vibration or force from buffetting etc is directly transmitted to the handlebars).
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on January 09, 2021, 08:48:11 am
I prefer the smaller screens.  But for now i am not going to run a screen.

In that case I can recommend the 690 Touring screen then - works great for its size and fits perfectly.
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Post by: Aprilian on January 09, 2021, 09:53:07 am
I have the same screen as BLK - looks terrible but works a treat. Almost like riding my 660 Tenere
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Post by: ianb on January 09, 2021, 10:08:18 am
I like that KTM screen  :thumleft:
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Post by: Mark D on January 09, 2021, 01:22:56 pm
Here is the screen that I fitted. Comes from Screens for Bikes in Australia.  Riding at 120 km/h seems quite stable with no buffeting.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BLK on January 09, 2021, 01:33:36 pm
Sample of attachment for Dom.

It is rock solid(so far)
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 09, 2021, 01:45:07 pm
BLK, I have the same screen, but on my bike the headlight fairing forces the screen bracket up, causing the screen too point too far back, so that it is sort of in the way when you stand.

I'd like the screen to be fitted into a more upright position.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Aprilian on January 09, 2021, 01:58:29 pm
Agreed, I am designing a hinge mechanism to tilt screen independently from the handguards

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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BLK on January 09, 2021, 02:03:32 pm
BLK, I have the same screen, but on my bike the headlight fairing forces the screen bracket up, causing the screen too point too far back, so that it is sort of in the way when you stand.

I'd like the screen to be fitted into a more upright position.

I will take a pic of my bike now for you to see
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BLK on January 09, 2021, 02:13:53 pm
here are 2 x pics as my bike is:Note:I have 25mm bar risers as well?
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: adamktm on January 11, 2021, 03:45:44 pm
The Rack is in progress , I have the proto type, I have designed it wider . I prefer wider so a duffel bag can lay across without tilting over to one side. Pic to follow. I never made the foot pegs.  The foam air filter is from the Rade tank mod. It has a metal cage inside, Which long story causes problems with sealing. So this plastic inner cage will do the trick.

Hi Ian

Can you please elaborate on the steel filter cage causing problems? Iíve just fitted the Rade garage tank.

Also with your luggage plate I would extend the rear a bit further out so that you can fit your roll bag on and still put fuel in without removing luggage.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on January 20, 2021, 09:41:23 am
Hi Adam. The steel cage in the Twinn Air filter  has 2 wigs on each side that rest on top of the airbox ( Rade garage only)  the foam filter sits on top of this arrangement Not good because dust gets in ,in between that steel cage wings and flat air box surface . I know .my bike needed new valves.  So do away with that metal cage and fit something inside the foam so it does not get sucked into your motor. For now i fitted some plastic fence inside. It works well. I was at the spring manufacturers yesterday to design a square spring that can fit into the foam. . This may take another 2 weeks.  The back plate i shortened on purpose because the overhang after the rear bolts was to much, To much pressure on the back of the plastic tank\ sub frame and inserts into the tank.  A  bag can fit on the rack only. And a roll bag on the seat. That is why i have made extra size slots on the front of the rack.  The rack is 30cm long and 27cm wide. They will be R750 . Note i am not a vendor.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: adamktm on January 20, 2021, 12:51:42 pm
Hi Ian

Thanks for the explanation. I will have a look at the filter setup. I would be interested in one of those springs when you get them.

Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on January 20, 2021, 02:26:27 pm
I will let you know how the spring goes .
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Post by: ianb on January 23, 2021, 11:09:17 am
I am selling these tanks . They came off my brother in laws bike . 
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Post by: ianb on January 23, 2021, 11:09:59 am
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Post by: ianb on January 23, 2021, 11:10:35 am
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Post by: ianb on February 12, 2021, 02:40:50 pm
After removing my back shock 3 times to set the pre load. I needed a stiffer spring  65nm to a 75nm. I  was offered a Pre load adjuster from TBR suspension. Which i got them to fit to the shock.. This has made life so much easier to set up the shock.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on February 12, 2021, 02:41:55 pm
New spring and Pre load adjuster fitted.
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Post by: ianb on February 12, 2021, 02:42:55 pm
The adjustment from the side.
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Post by: ianb on February 12, 2021, 02:47:44 pm
While i was at it i got TBR to look at the front forks as well. There is not a lot that can be done. But the did a small amount of  shimming . The said these forks are not the best WPs that were made. Yet to test.
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Post by: BiG DoM on February 12, 2021, 02:53:58 pm
Ja the 4CS forks can benefit from some work - I was fortunate to pick up a Dal Soggio kit that sorted mine out great. Essentially reverse engineered them to open cartridge with C and R on each fork and improved mid flow etc. I am also awaiting a 75Nm spring to use with a Tractive hydraulic preload adjuster I also picked up for a good deal. Looking forward to your feedback on the mods  :thumleft:
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Post by: Rough Rider on February 12, 2021, 02:58:58 pm
After removing my back shock 3 times to set the pre load. I needed a stiffer spring  65nm to a 75nm. I  was offered a Pre load adjuster from TBR suspension. Which i got them to fit to the shock.. This has made life so much easier to set up the shock.

What did the pre load adjuster cost?
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on February 12, 2021, 03:59:52 pm
I think he said they are normally R4500. He gave it to me for R3700.
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Post by: Rough Rider on February 15, 2021, 10:43:36 am
I think he said they are normally R4500. He gave it to me for R3700.

Its a lot for what it is.
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Post by: BiG DoM on February 15, 2021, 10:49:53 am
I think he said they are normally R4500. He gave it to me for R3700.

Its a lot for what it is.

True - we get badly shafted with the exchange rate. A nice to have though I must say.
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Post by: ianb on February 15, 2021, 03:28:40 pm
I just closed my eyes and said fit.  Its a lousy job lifting the tank to adjust the pre load. Now so easy.
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Post by: spankme on February 18, 2021, 06:06:15 pm
Hi Ian

Thanks for the explanation. I will have a look at the filter setup. I would be interested in one of those springs when you get them.

Just run some rubber grease as you would on an MX bike around the lip of filter
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: spankme on February 18, 2021, 06:09:57 pm
You maybe interested.I put this screen on my new 2020 690 from Bikers Warehouse.Brackets connect to Cycra hand guards.I find it excellent.

Just dont go to Cape Town in the windy season :imaposer:
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on February 18, 2021, 06:11:20 pm
Hi Ian

Thanks for the explanation. I will have a look at the filter setup. I would be interested in one of those springs when you get them.

Just run some rubber grease as you would on an MX bike around the lip of filter

Yes that helps but there is a design weakness and you really want to remove the R/G filter cage or modify it like I did - so that the lid will sit flush. I cut the wings off that create the problem of the 'lid' not sitting flush. I left small feet that allow the cage to sit snug inside and all then seals 100%. Use Go Pro thumb screws to hold the lid in place - much better than the silly bolts supplied. And yes I always grease a filter rim.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: spankme on February 18, 2021, 06:36:55 pm
Dom is yours plastic?
Mine was the prototype that Radeck used ,its steel
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Post by: spankme on February 18, 2021, 06:39:19 pm
Dom ,tried calling you but you probably dont have electricity this week :imaposer:
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Post by: BiG DoM on February 18, 2021, 08:40:17 pm
Dom ,tried calling you but you probably dont have electricity this week :imaposer:

Actually had outage on Monday but since be OK ... holding thumbs.  :imaposer:

The cage is steel and I have thought of 3D printing one but it is working great as is (and is quite light and stays in place no issue).
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Post by: adamktm on February 19, 2021, 08:09:00 am
Nice one Dom, i will do just that!!

I already have the gopro thumb screws. I think you've mentioned that before.

One thing I have found though is the filter housing sits right where the shroud pins are and it makes it quite difficult getting the filter and cage off and on.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on February 19, 2021, 09:46:43 am
Nice one Dom, i will do just that!!

I already have the gopro thumb screws. I think you've mentioned that before.

One thing I have found though is the filter housing sits right where the shroud pins are and it makes it quite difficult getting the filter and cage off and on.

Here is the fb thread on the cage mod I did - it also has a video showing the gap that results from the standard cage fitting that can result in dust ingress.
BTW the GoPro thumb screws I found needed shortening a bit after removing the Áage wings) as they bottomed out before creating purchase (I am sure a washer may also do the trick but just check so the lid pulls tight.)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/433425150186147/permalink/1537610836434234
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Post by: ianb on February 19, 2021, 01:28:28 pm
I will still like to look at the spring set up for the filter cage. The spring manufacturing chap i know. No longer wants to do it.  Regarding the Go Pro thumb screws ,i screwed on a m5 nut to take up the longer thread. That worked well. However i have now found some m5x30 long grub screws . I fitted those, then turned some long nuts to fit . Now the foam and outer housing just locates onto the studs. A bit easier to install. IMO
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Post by: spankme on February 19, 2021, 02:08:22 pm
Thats basically what I did as well
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Post by: ianb on February 22, 2021, 01:40:57 pm
At the weekend i removed the in tank filter and fitted a link pipe. Not such a bad job. I also fitted a Golan connector filter. From LocoMoto.  Now i have piece of mind the pump wont over work with dirty old filter. I will clean the Golan more frequently.
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Post by: ianb on February 22, 2021, 01:41:42 pm
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Post by: ianb on March 01, 2021, 11:29:30 am
So i rode my bike over the weekend and it performed well with the Golan filter and removing the in tank filter. But i am scared the Golan filter area is a bit small so have decided to re fit a in tank filter. I found these from Midas for R25. It matches  what came out. From a dealer in Cape town.  It is a high pressure 10 micron filter. The clamp sizes for the in tank filter are 9mm to 11mm.
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Post by: ianb on March 01, 2021, 11:35:35 am
I also decided to see what's going on inside the Akro DB killer. I found the bike to be what i thought a bit choked up in the exhaust department. So drilled the carbon end cap . I then used a good 8M socket and turned the bolt out. It was lightly welded. But came out. I started the bike without the DB killer, Its way to loud. So i cut off the 2 pipes and replaced the end cap. Now to me its perfect.
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Post by: Dolf on March 01, 2021, 12:00:46 pm
So i rode my bike over the weekend and it performed well with the Golan filter and removing the in tank filter. But i am scared the Golan filter area is a bit small so have decided to re fit a in tank filter. I found these from Midas for R25. It matches  what came out. From a dealer in Cape town.  It is a high pressure 10 micron filter. The clamp sizes for the in tank filter are 9mm to 11mm.

The Golan filter is much larger than the white in-line OEM filter at the quick disconnect so I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: adamktm on March 19, 2021, 09:41:31 am
Hi Ian

Thanks for the explanation. I will have a look at the filter setup. I would be interested in one of those springs when you get them.

So I finally got around to sorting this out. I did it slightly differently though. When I took the filter and cage off I noticed the filter housing has 2 "ears" on either side so I shaped the cage to sit on those and bonded it in place with some 11FC.

Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on March 20, 2021, 09:36:38 am
I have given up on the spring idea. The plastic fence is working just perfectly for now.
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Post by: ianb on May 07, 2021, 10:25:42 am
I just added some holes to the plastic side covers to get more trapped hot air out.  Just for Fun.
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Post by: ianb on May 07, 2021, 10:26:18 am
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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on May 07, 2021, 01:46:11 pm
you know it would run cooler with proper fuelling - just saying
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Post by: ianb on May 10, 2021, 09:16:07 am
One of the better mods done. I fitted a KTM 4 stroke gear shifter. It is about a cm longer and has a better folding tip. The leaver is smoother and better on the boot. Just the price at almost R900 is a bit steep. I am very happy with the result.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Dolf on May 10, 2021, 03:38:25 pm
you know it would run cooler with proper fuelling - just saying

The O2 dongle thing?

Did mine last week. Can't say that I noticed a big difference in low end grunt. Maybe a tiny bit.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on May 10, 2021, 04:26:52 pm
Yes i did the o2 Dongle. It did smooth out the throttle a bit.
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Post by: ianb on May 10, 2021, 04:49:44 pm
I also added these throttle spacers . A friend #D printed them for me. They take up the slack throttle play. 
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Post by: ianb on May 10, 2021, 04:50:22 pm
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Post by: teebag on May 10, 2021, 06:12:51 pm
you know it would run cooler with proper fuelling - just saying

The O2 dongle thing?

Did mine last week. Can't say that I noticed a big difference in low end grunt. Maybe a tiny bit.
no i was being cheeky, have a Power Commander V for the 701 for sale
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on May 10, 2021, 06:43:20 pm
I also added these throttle spacers . A friend #D printed them for me. They take up the slack throttle play.


Would you have the link for 3D printing file? May well get a friend to do the same for me  8)
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Takashi on May 10, 2021, 07:43:44 pm
I also added these throttle spacers . A friend #D printed them for me. They take up the slack throttle play.


Would you have the link for 3D printing file? May well get a friend to do the same for me  8)

See attached
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on May 10, 2021, 09:41:15 pm
I also added these throttle spacers . A friend #D printed them for me. They take up the slack throttle play.


Would you have the link for 3D printing file? May well get a friend to do the same for me  8)

See attached

Thanks - does one use the big or small nub or one of each?
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Takashi on May 11, 2021, 07:12:03 am
I also added these throttle spacers . A friend #D printed them for me. They take up the slack throttle play.


Would you have the link for 3D printing file? May well get a friend to do the same for me  8)

See attached

Thanks - does one use the big or small nub or one of each?

One of each, these parts are tiny should not take more than 10mins to print.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Dolf on May 11, 2021, 08:46:55 am
you know it would run cooler with proper fuelling - just saying

The O2 dongle thing?

Did mine last week. Can't say that I noticed a big difference in low end grunt. Maybe a tiny bit.
no i was being cheeky, have a Power Commander V for the 701 for sale

If you include an Acro for free I'll take it  :biggrin:

The Stealth is very noisy.....
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on May 11, 2021, 08:54:51 am
The Stealth is very noisy.....

.... but produces power ne?  :thumleft:
Mine does, awesome piece of kit but yeah, a tad loud....
Ask Jaco to make you a quiet-insert, or wear some earplugs  :P
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on May 11, 2021, 09:33:46 am
if you have open pipe/air box you should do something about fueling
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on May 11, 2021, 09:46:20 am
if you have open pipe/air box you should do something about fueling

A Boosterplug's all you need and works for me: open LOUD Stealth pipe (which is a tad longer than the usual zorts, it ends just past the indicators) & Rade TwinAir filter  :thumleft:
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Dolf on May 11, 2021, 09:50:52 am
The Stealth is very noisy.....

.... but produces power ne?  :thumleft:
Mine does, awesome piece of kit but yeah, a tad loud....
Ask Jaco to make you a quiet-insert, or wear some earplugs  :P

Not sure. I think so. Rode the bike home from the dealer (5km) and put the Stealth on so it has been on from the beginning.
For the price, oh yes.

Jaco?

Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on May 11, 2021, 01:06:22 pm
Jaco = Stealth Exhausts, Pta East, 082 308 4049
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 02, 2021, 11:44:37 am
So talking RG Twin air filters. I have made these cage inserts . I think its about the best solution to the filter cage problems of fitting to the top of the RG airbox .
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 02, 2021, 11:45:26 am
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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on June 02, 2021, 11:45:49 am
looks good Ian
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 02, 2021, 11:47:12 am
And if it falls out .Which i don't think it will . It cant go anywhere .
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 02, 2021, 11:48:07 am
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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on June 02, 2021, 12:32:04 pm
Yes I have one that Ian has sent me and they look great - just not had a chance yet to try it out.  :thumleft:  I did take the OEM one a while back and cut the tabs off making it similar and have been using it for some months and it works great.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on June 02, 2021, 12:53:44 pm
I have made these cage inserts

That's nice Ian, but incomplete, sorry ........ how about also a thicker outer (the visible) plate?
Mine bends at times due to the limited mounting space, so a thicker (same, verbatim shape etc, just thicker) plate would be handy to have also  :thumleft:

Also, and No, haven't checked this vast archive, perhaps this will fit the 690's also?
If so (I think it will....) then you may want to change the Title of this thread to include the attention if not attract 690 owners  ;)
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on June 02, 2021, 12:57:59 pm
And if it falls out .Which i don't think it will . It cant go anywhere .

Maybe, maybe not..... but two 'lips' with holes for the studs will do 2 things:
- keep the inner frame at the correct location hence also at the correct theight
- prevent the current one from going askew if not bending out of the way


Besides, these would not affect cost I think, but would require an additional bend  ;)
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on June 02, 2021, 01:01:47 pm
not had a chance yet to try it out

What is wrong with you?
I am sitting here behind my PC patiently waiting (for the microwave to heat up my TV-dinner and coffee etc) whilst you lazy git finish working just to get a chance to mount it and go ride?
Fooi man, get a move on please, I might pick up some weight otherwise!
Tsk tsk tsk .....  :lol8:





Seriously, do report back on it will ya?  ;)
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 02, 2021, 01:21:11 pm
 :imaposer: I tried a different base . It never worked . It was too fiddly . This is the best solution IMO. And simple.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on June 02, 2021, 01:43:05 pm
And if it falls out .Which i don't think it will . It cant go anywhere .

Maybe, maybe not..... but two 'lips' with holes for the studs will do 2 things:
- keep the inner frame at the correct location hence also at the correct theight
- prevent the current one from going askew if not bending out of the way


Besides, these would not affect cost I think, but would require an additional bend  ;)

No - that is precisely the problem that causes the frame not to sit flush and flex and can allow ingress of dust.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on June 02, 2021, 01:44:46 pm
not had a chance yet to try it out

What is wrong with you?
I am sitting here behind my PC patiently waiting (for the microwave to heat up my TV-dinner and coffee etc) whilst you lazy git finish working just to get a chance to mount it and go ride?
Fooi man, get a move on please, I might pick up some weight otherwise!
Tsk tsk tsk .....  :lol8:

 :biggrin:  The reality is I already have tried the design with my version and they work great.





Seriously, do report back on it will ya?  ;)
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 04, 2021, 08:44:01 am
Got my new screen.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on June 04, 2021, 12:13:37 pm
iím sure it will make a difference, but it just looks wrong on that bike
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 11, 2021, 10:44:46 am
I went for a ride on Sunday. During the ride i noticed my clutch leaver loosing more and more pressure. When i got home i opened up the slave cylinder to find the O ring was destroyed . I am aware of the O ring issues on these bikes. The O ring was replaced by a shop in Cape town at 10000 KMS  it is now on 16000 KMS . After a bit of research ,I ask the question what makes the Oberon slave so special. The principal is all the same. I gather its all in the piston and what O rings are used for the 5.1 brake fluid. Where i believe the problem starts.   So it appears the EPDM  O ring must be to hold back the 5.1 brake fluid , and the Viton O ring to hold back the hot engine oil.  So the EPDM O ring is not over heating. Or doing  two jobs, to put it simple.  The soft rubber cover i think was put there to combat the heat from the engine oil. So now is not needed. I set out to make my own piston with the two grooves. And it is now in my bike and working perfectly. It is a problem getting aluminium and price. So i will be making more out of a different type high heat tolerant plastic material . which i have.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 11, 2021, 10:47:54 am
That was the single O ring design . Now the double.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 11, 2021, 10:48:48 am
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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 11, 2021, 10:50:17 am
With ball bearing for the push rod contact.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 11, 2021, 10:51:26 am
The old O ring
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on June 11, 2021, 11:06:21 am
Great job Ian! What maybe needs clarity is that this twin groove/seal piston appears to be the modification to the new Magura slaves being fitted to 2021 bikes, along with no skirt dust seal. Does the Oberon also run a two groove piston?

Also that clearly the O-ring replacement fitted to your bike in CT was obviously not EPDM and either Viton or butyl that was not brake fluid compatible (yes will work for an emergency 'get one home' and for a few months but will eventually fail.

Also for noting for anyone making the change is standard spec brake fluid is DOT 4 but many change to run the DOT 5.1 which has a higher boiling point. What is critical for anyone doing the change is NEVER use DOT 5 as it is synthetic silicone based and not compatible with our system (DOT 4 and DOT 5.1 are compatible and can be mixed).
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 11, 2021, 11:22:13 am
Hi Big Dom  yes .So it looks like the 2021 bikes will come with this double ring piston. And i see on the FB site that piston has a green Viton ring and i will assume a EPDM ring. The Oberon also according to there site has two O rings it says one been Viton. So the dust cover is not needed .  Funny since i had my 950 i wanted to make a double O ring piston, But bought a EVO slave. The shop in Cape town fitted a Viton ring to my bike. I checked.   
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 23, 2021, 10:35:40 am
Another rear rack , I am very happy how it has turned out.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on June 23, 2021, 11:01:29 am
Looks good - can you powder coat white?
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on June 23, 2021, 12:09:41 pm
Hi Big Dom  yes can be Powder coated in white.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Noneking on June 23, 2021, 12:19:20 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: teebag on June 23, 2021, 01:42:49 pm
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BuRP on June 23, 2021, 06:50:19 pm
So, engine oil on one side, brake fluid on the other, different materials for the two O-rings.
Here's a Q: what kind of lubricant must be used in the middle of the two O-rings?
 ;)
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 23, 2021, 08:44:20 pm
So, engine oil on one side, brake fluid on the other, different materials for the two O-rings.
Here's a Q: what kind of lubricant must be used in the middle of the two O-rings?
 ;)

Vaseline.
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: BiG DoM on June 23, 2021, 08:56:32 pm
So, engine oil on one side, brake fluid on the other, different materials for the two O-rings.
Here's a Q: what kind of lubricant must be used in the middle of the two O-rings?
 ;)

Vaseline.

KY would be better as is not mineral based  >:D
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 23, 2021, 09:45:11 pm
So, engine oil on one side, brake fluid on the other, different materials for the two O-rings.
Here's a Q: what kind of lubricant must be used in the middle of the two O-rings?
 ;)

Vaseline.

KY would be better as is not mineral based  >:D

 :ricky:
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on July 01, 2021, 10:20:45 am
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Drover on July 19, 2021, 10:46:33 pm
Hi Big Dom  yes .So it looks like the 2021 bikes will come with this double ring piston. And i see on the FB site that piston has a green Viton ring and i will assume a EPDM ring. The Oberon also according to there site has two O rings it says one been Viton. So the dust cover is not needed .  Funny since i had my 950 i wanted to make a double O ring piston, But bought a EVO slave. The shop in Cape town fitted a Viton ring to my bike. I checked.
I took my 2020 model in for a service last week and asked the dealer to do a claim in order to get the double O ring piston and the claim was approved. Now for the wait for the part to arrive.

Thanks to this post, I would not have known about the upgrade!


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Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Amsterdam on July 21, 2021, 01:20:40 pm
Is this double o-ring piston a warrantee thing or a recall item and therefor applicable to all bikes?
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: ianb on July 24, 2021, 10:41:48 am
I dont know. But i have made a few and they are working perfectly .
Title: Re: ianb's 701
Post by: Drover on July 24, 2021, 10:38:34 pm
Is this double o-ring piston a warrantee thing or a recall item and therefor applicable to all bikes?
A warranty claim, not a recall. I think they approved mine due to the bike still being under warranty and the new ones came out with the double O ring this year.


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