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Title: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 28, 2021, 12:10:45 am
Mods, please make a sticky, or whatever magic it is you do to the other MotoGP threads?

So, who is getting edgy because we have no bike racing to watch?  It seems the most exciting sport news is how some Aussie cricketer swore at some Indian cricketer.

The 2021 Calendar is out and already some havoc due to the plague / pandemic / mild flu / conspiracy.

- First official testing for 2021 on Sepang in Malaysia was cancelled.
- Two extra days of testing was added at Qatar to manage the above. \
- The Argentinian and US GPs cancelled.
- One race added at Qatar to replace Argentina, so we will have the GP of Qatar on 28 March and then the GP of Doha one week later on 4 April
- Portimao in Portugal will replace the USA this time, so we go there on 18 April.
- Then the normal trek through Europe. Jerez (Spain), Le Mans (France), Mugello (Italy), Catalunya (Spain), Sachsenring (Germany), Assen (Netherland), Kymiring (Finland), Red Bull Ring (Austria), Silverstone (UK), Aragon (Spain), San Marini (Italy), Motegi (Japan), Chang (Thailand), Phillip Island (Australia), Sepang (Malaysia), Valencia (Spain). 19 races if no more changes.
- News on MM93 vague.  It seems he may not be ready for the first races of 2021 due to that arm that is not healing properly, or ... maybe he is.  He only passed a medical to start training on 14 January 2021. Like I said, news = vague.
- Dovi still without a ride, but ready to step into Repsol Honda to replace MM93 if required and requested.
- Davide Brivio, the Team Manager at Suzuki who engineered they brilliant return to MotoGP from nothing to a World Champion is leaving Suzuki for a Team Manager job in F1.  Sadly so!
- It seems Honda have made some changes to their 2020 bike for 2021.  Of course, due to the engine development freeze the engine remains unchanged, or so they say, but apparently lots of other changes to the bikes.
- There is no truth in the rumour that Yamaha valves will now be made by a small 1-man company in Stellenbosch.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BullSmit on January 28, 2021, 09:05:10 am
Mods, please make a sticky, or whatever magic it is you do to the other MotoGP threads?

So, who is getting edgy because we have no bike racing to watch?  It seems the most exciting sport news is how some Aussie cricketer swore at some Indian cricketer.

The 2021 Calendar is out and already some havoc due to the plague / pandemic / mild flu / conspiracy.

- First official testing for 2021 on Sepang in Malaysia was cancelled.
- Two extra days of testing was added at Qatar to manage the above. \
- The Argentinian and US GPs cancelled.
- One race added at Qatar to replace Argentina, so we will have the GP of Qatar on 28 March and then the GP of Doha one week later on 4 April
- Portimao in Portugal will replace the USA this time, so we go there on 18 April.
- Then the normal trek through Europe. Jerez (Spain), Le Mans (France), Mugello (Italy), Catalunya (Spain), Sachsenring (Germany), Assen (Netherland), Kymiring (Finland), Red Bull Ring (Austria), Silverstone (UK), Aragon (Spain), San Marini (Italy), Motegi (Japan), Chang (Thailand), Phillip Island (Australia), Sepang (Malaysia), Valencia (Spain). 19 races if no more changes.
- News on MM93 vague.  It seems he may not be ready for the first races of 2021 due to that arm that is not healing properly, or ... maybe he is.  He only passed a medical to start training on 14 January 2021. Like I said, news = vague.
- Dovi still without a ride, but ready to step into Repsol Honda to replace MM93 if required and requested.
- Davide Brivio, the Team Manager at Suzuki who engineered they brilliant return to MotoGP from nothing to a World Champion is leaving Suzuki for a Team Manager job in F1.  Sadly so!
- It seems Honda have made some changes to their 2020 bike for 2021.  Of course, due to the engine development freeze the engine remains unchanged, or so they say, but apparently lots of other changes to the bikes.
- There is no truth in the rumour that Yamaha valves will now be made by a small 1-man company in Stellenbosch.

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 28, 2021, 09:10:35 am
 :ricky: At last. 56 or something days to go.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 28, 2021, 12:05:18 pm
Mods, please make a sticky, or whatever magic it is you do to the other MotoGP threads?

So, who is getting edgy because we have no bike racing to watch?  It seems the most exciting sport news is how some Aussie cricketer swore at some Indian cricketer.

The 2021 Calendar is out and already some havoc due to the plague / pandemic / mild flu / conspiracy.

- First official testing for 2021 on Sepang in Malaysia was cancelled.
- Two extra days of testing was added at Qatar to manage the above. \
- The Argentinian and US GPs cancelled.
- One race added at Qatar to replace Argentina, so we will have the GP of Qatar on 28 March and then the GP of Doha one week later on 4 April
- Portimao in Portugal will replace the USA this time, so we go there on 18 April.
- Then the normal trek through Europe. Jerez (Spain), Le Mans (France), Mugello (Italy), Catalunya (Spain), Sachsenring (Germany), Assen (Netherland), Kymiring (Finland), Red Bull Ring (Austria), Silverstone (UK), Aragon (Spain), San Marini (Italy), Motegi (Japan), Chang (Thailand), Phillip Island (Australia), Sepang (Malaysia), Valencia (Spain). 19 races if no more changes.
- News on MM93 vague.  It seems he may not be ready for the first races of 2021 due to that arm that is not healing properly, or ... maybe he is.  He only passed a medical to start training on 14 January 2021. Like I said, news = vague.
- Dovi still without a ride, but ready to step into Repsol Honda to replace MM93 if required and requested.
- Davide Brivio, the Team Manager at Suzuki who engineered they brilliant return to MotoGP from nothing to a World Champion is leaving Suzuki for a Team Manager job in F1.  Sadly so!
- It seems Honda have made some changes to their 2020 bike for 2021.  Of course, due to the engine development freeze the engine remains unchanged, or so they say, but apparently lots of other changes to the bikes.
- There is no truth in the rumour that Yamaha valves will now be made by a small 1-man company in Stellenbosch.

Valves-R-us. :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Ventana on January 28, 2021, 12:54:38 pm
 :sip:  Cant wait!  Here's hoping for a good year for the Binder Bro's.  Thinking that 'Divebomb' Darryn is going to be a man-on-a-mission in his new colours.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 28, 2021, 02:49:34 pm
Darryn will be in a top team with top tech, top staff and the very best of everything so I am think he will do well.  How well, i.e. World Champion, top three, top five, etc. remains to be seen, but regardless, I am looking forward to see him go again.  No matter what he does, no one can call him a boring rider.  Somewhere back in the annals of WD MotoGP treads someone asked who I thought was better, Brad or Darryn.  I responded that Brad was the strategist, the cool calm and collected rider.  Darryn is the wild one.  I can't say who is better, i.e. if the raced each other 100 times on exactly the same bikes, who would win the most, but what I do know if one of them is going to pull a stunt that everyone will say: "how the hell did he manage that!?" it will be Darryn.

Yes, I am looking forward to a few things this year.

1.  Brad's performance in MotoGP on a KTM that should be even more inproved.
2.  Darryn's performance in a top notch team with oodles of meoney and tech.
3.  MM93.  Will he return?  If so, will he be competitive?
4.  VR46 on a factory Yamaha, without the shackles the Yamaha factory impose.
5.  Petrux on a KTM.
6.  Luca Marini, VR46's brother's performance. 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 28, 2021, 02:52:56 pm
Darryn in the same team as Rossi.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 28, 2021, 03:06:21 pm
Darryn in the same team as Rossi.

No.  You have that all wrong.  I have it, from the horses mouth. Darryn himself during and interview said, after it was mentioned that he is in the same team as Rossi, in Darryn's very own special manner: "No.  Rossi is in the same team as I am!"    :lol8:

I hope for many grid interviews with Mr " Nou gaan ons braai"  this year!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 28, 2021, 03:09:39 pm
Darryn in the same team as Rossi.

No.  You have that all wrong.  I have it, from the horses mouth. Darryn himself during and interview said, after it was mentioned that he is in the same team as Rossi, in Darryn's very own special manner: "No.  Rossi is in the same team as I am!"    :lol8:

I hope for many grid interviews with Mr " Nou gaan ons braai"  this year!

Sorry you are correct!

 :imaposer: I watched that interview with Rob and Don.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 28, 2021, 03:54:49 pm
Darryn in the same team as Rossi.

No.  You have that all wrong.  I have it, from the horses mouth. Darryn himself during and interview said, after it was mentioned that he is in the same team as Rossi, in Darryn's very own special manner: "No.  Rossi is in the same team as I am!"    :lol8:

I hope for many grid interviews with Mr " Nou gaan ons braai"  this year!

Sorry you are correct!

 :imaposer: I watched that interview with Rob and Don.

I hope Valentino understands how fortunate he is!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 28, 2021, 05:02:44 pm
Darryn in the same team as Rossi.

No.  You have that all wrong.  I have it, from the horses mouth. Darryn himself during and interview said, after it was mentioned that he is in the same team as Rossi, in Darryn's very own special manner: "No.  Rossi is in the same team as I am!"    :lol8:

I hope for many grid interviews with Mr " Nou gaan ons braai"  this year!

Sorry you are correct!

 :imaposer: I watched that interview with Rob and Don.

I hope Valentino understands how fortunate he is!   :lol8:

Don't be blasphemous! :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on January 28, 2021, 05:05:55 pm
sub :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on January 28, 2021, 05:17:15 pm
Darryn can give Valentino a master class in late breaking and how to do the divebomb!



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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 28, 2021, 09:12:58 pm
Darryn can give Valentino a master class in late breaking and how to do the divebomb!



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Valentino can do with any classes at the moment.......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on January 28, 2021, 09:37:54 pm
Darryn can give Valentino a master class in late breaking and how to do the divebomb!



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Valentino can do with any classes at the moment.......

And some new valves.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: I&horse on January 29, 2021, 07:33:13 am
Sub
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 29, 2021, 07:44:42 am
Darryn can give Valentino a master class in late breaking and how to do the divebomb!



Sent from my SM-A260F using Tapatalk

Valentino can do with any classes at the moment.......

And some new valves.....

If it weren't for those valves, Yamaha would have won manufacturer's title last year. After the most disastrous season in their history.......go figure.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 29, 2021, 10:19:15 am
Darryn can give Valentino a master class in late breaking and how to do the divebomb!



Sent from my SM-A260F using Tapatalk

Valentino can do with any classes at the moment.......

And some new valves.....

If it weren't for those valves, Yamaha would have won manufacturer's title last year. After the most disastrous season in their history.......go figure.

Janee Danie.  As an ardent Yamaha supporter I was driven to crying in my red cooldrink many times last year.  The championship was pretty much handed to Yamaha on a platter and they still managed to screw it up.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 29, 2021, 11:09:43 am
Lights added to flags for MotoGP, WSBK and World Endurance Racing.

About time as well.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950681/1/fim-homologates-first-flag-light-panel-ahead-mandatory-motogp-use
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 29, 2021, 11:16:22 am
A bit of interesting news from KTM is that the Crew Chief to Brad Binder last year will move to Tech3 KTM as Crew Chief to Danilo Petrucci.  The Crew Chief who worked with BB33 all of his Moto2 career is moving to Red Bull KTM to be Crew Chief to Brad.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: mox on January 29, 2021, 11:26:14 am
https://www.gpone.com/en/2021/01/28/motogp/its-time-to-scrap-riders-rossi-remains-marquez-the-only-one-on-the-same-bike.html

A dinosaur amongst manikins (not to be confused with those advertising models)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on January 30, 2021, 09:19:16 am
https://www.gpone.com/en/2021/01/28/motogp/its-time-to-scrap-riders-rossi-remains-marquez-the-only-one-on-the-same-bike.html

A dinosaur amongst manikins (not to be confused with those advertising models)

This is very interesting.  Thanks!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 02, 2021, 07:35:59 pm
The biggest partof the VR46 Academy squad will spend two days practising on Portimao next week.  All four MotoGP riders (VR46, Morbidelli, Bagniaia and Marini), as well as the two SkyVR46 Moto2 and two SkyVR46 Moto3 riders.  None are allowed to use the race bikes, so the four MotoGP riders will use Yamaha (Rossi and Morbidelli) and Ducati (Bagniaia and Marini) superbikes.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bartman on February 02, 2021, 09:07:16 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 02, 2021, 10:50:42 pm
It seems BRNO in the Czech Republic and Buriram in Thailand is off the 2021 calendar. 

BRNO because the requirement to resurface will not be met due to financial constraints caused by racing with no spectators.  BRNO usually draws 200 000 spectators to a MotoGP race.

Thailand due to Covid fears.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 03, 2021, 09:00:40 am
It seems BRNO in the Czech Republic and Buriram in Thailand is off the 2021 calendar. 

BRNO because the requirement to resurface will not be met due to financial constraints caused by racing with no spectators.  BRNO usually draws 200 000 spectators to a MotoGP race.

Thailand due to Covid fears.

Brad doesn't seem to think BRNO needs a resurface  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on February 03, 2021, 09:42:56 am
It seems BRNO in the Czech Republic and Buriram in Thailand is off the 2021 calendar. 

BRNO because the requirement to resurface will not be met due to financial constraints caused by racing with no spectators.  BRNO usually draws 200 000 spectators to a MotoGP race.

Thailand due to Covid fears.

Brad doesn't seem to think BRNO needs a resurface  :ricky:
He is used to Potch's roads  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2021, 11:21:55 am
It seems BRNO in the Czech Republic and Buriram in Thailand is off the 2021 calendar. 

BRNO because the requirement to resurface will not be met due to financial constraints caused by racing with no spectators.  BRNO usually draws 200 000 spectators to a MotoGP race.

Thailand due to Covid fears.

Brad doesn't seem to think BRNO needs a resurface  :ricky:
He is used to Potch's roads  :pot:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 05, 2021, 09:58:38 am
Michele Pirro days to first MotoGP race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on February 06, 2021, 12:54:49 am
That's a deceptive photo ........................... or is he a big boy?

51 days, you say? ...................... I'm still paying for a DSTV connection but don't even live in SA.

The only reason I keep it is for MotoGP .......................................... and the fact my wife is still there .................  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 06, 2021, 07:21:52 pm
I believe he is a tad taller than the average.  I hate DSTV, but till I have a proper fiber connection I have to keep it for MotoGP.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 06, 2021, 07:22:57 pm
Eugene Laverty days to first MotoGP.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2021, 12:11:22 pm
Can the season not start this weekend Dorna?  Please!  Have a heart!

Axel Pons days to start of first race.


Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 08:55:36 am
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal . 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BullSmit on February 09, 2021, 09:14:11 am
Brilliant TB!!!!  :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on February 09, 2021, 09:18:33 am
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .
Everything believable except point 1  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 09:20:47 am
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .
Everything believable except point 1  :biggrin:

What weakness is this you are showing?  You didn't call me a Rossi-fanboy!  I am shocked!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on February 09, 2021, 12:19:43 pm
Watching the Unridables last week i couldnt help wondering... 20 odd years ago the racers were mostly yanks, brits and Ozzies with the occasional Italian.

Nowadays its dominated by Spaniards and Italians.  What happened ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 12:30:13 pm
Watching the Unridables last week i couldnt help wondering... 20 odd years ago the racers were mostly yanks, brits and Ozzies with the occasional Italian.

Nowadays its dominated by Spaniards and Italians.  What happened ?

I have never seen it that way, but you could be right.  Are you sure though, or did you form a perception?  While you think about that I will see if I can find some figures.  Science and all that you know.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 12:51:00 pm
Kilroy raised an interesting question, so I went for a look.  I took the top 15 riders in the championship top class only in 10 year increments, starting in 1980.  It seems you are correct, at least about the last 20 - 40 years even.  My guess is that we saw a few things happen.

- The USA for a long time followed their own championship.  Own classes, etc.  It also seems that they had, for a period no or very little feeder classes.
- The UK went toward WSBK in terms of racing classes.  See how they rule the roost in WSBK.
- Spain started a racing academy and a Spanish championship almost identical to the MotoGP championship smaller classes.
- Italy recently gained the VR46 Academy for Italian riders, but they also have a championship similar to MotoGP smaller classes.
- It is much cheaper and easier for an Italian or Spaniard to get into and participate in the various " beginner"  classes such as Red Bull Rookies Cup, Junior World Championship, Spanish or Italian Moto3 Championship.
 
1980:

Champion = USA
US = 2
GB = 1
Italy = 5 (interesting this includes one Graziano Rossi who finished 5th)
Netherlands = 3
Venezuela = 1
NZ = 1
Switzerland = 1
RSA = 1

1990:

Champion = USA
USA = 4
GB = 2
Italy = 2
Aus = 2
Spain = 2
France = 2
Brazil = 1

2000:

Champion = USA
USA = 1
GB = 1
Italy = 3
Spain = 2
Brazil = 1
Aus = 1
Japan = 4
France = 1
Netherlands = 1

2010:

Champion = Spain
USA = 3
Italy = 4
Spain = 5
Aus = 1
France = 1
Japan = 1

2020:

Champion = Spain
Italy = 4
Spain = 5
Aus = 1
France = 2
Portugal = 1
Japan = 1
RSA = 1

 

 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on February 09, 2021, 01:18:30 pm
Wait now...are your stats correct for the 90s?  If i recall correctly there was a Ozzie oke called Micky Doohan?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 01:23:47 pm
Wait now...are your stats correct for the 90s?  If i recall correctly there was a Ozzie oke called Micky Doohan?

Are we now not discussing the change from the USA/GB riders to It/Sp riders, but rather the accuracy / inaccuracy of the figures I showed?  :imaposer:

Anyway, the stats for 1990 are correct.  He is one of the 2 riders I listed under 1990.  The other was Wayne Garner.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on February 09, 2021, 01:29:34 pm
O sorry, see now what you did, counted the top 15 riders.  If you think of the battles from 85 to late 90s it was lawson, rainey, schwanz, gardener, randy, doohan, etc.. even before that incl spencer.. 

From 83 to 98 the campion was either from the US or Oz

Thereafter an Italian era

Lately its all Spain.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 01:31:38 pm
O sorry, see now what you did, counted the top 15 riders.  If you think of the battles from 85 to late 90s it was lawson, rainey, schwanz, gardener, randy, doohan, etc.. even before that incl spencer.. 

From 83 to 98 the campion was either from the US or Oz

Thereafter an Italian era

Lately its all Spain.

As I said, I only took the top 15 of that particular year.  1990 is therefore 1990 only and not the 90's.

There was definitely and American era and then a Australian era.  These days it is basically ONE FORKING SPANIARD!  :biggrin:

It would be interesting to give GP points to the countries as earned by their riders to see which country did the best in a given year, for instance an Italian won, but there were Americans 2, 3 and 4th.  Too much for just before my nap time though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on February 09, 2021, 01:37:43 pm
Can you pull stats of the 1sr 2d and 3rd racers from 83 - 2000? 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 01:40:55 pm
Can you pull stats of the 1sr 2d and 3rd racers from 83 - 2000?

For each year?  You sound like my math teacher in the last period on Friday!   :o

Will try.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 01:51:35 pm
1983:  Spencer, Robert, Mamola.  3 x US.  (For interest sake 4th was Lawson, also US)
1984:  Lawson, Mamola, Roche. 2 x US, 1 x French
1985:  Spencer, Lawson, Sarron. 2 x US, 1 by French
1986:  Lawson, Garner, Mamola. 2 x US, 1 x Aus
1987:  Gardner, Mamola, Lawson.  2 x US, 1 x Aus
1988:  Lawson, Gardner, Rainey.  2 x US, 1 x Aus
1989:  Lawson, Rainey, Sarron. 2 x US, 1 x French
1990:  Rainey, Schwanz, Doohan.  2 x US, 1 x Aus.

Rest to follow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 02:00:45 pm
1991:  Rainey, Doohan, Schwanz. 2 x US, 1 x Aus
1992:  Rainey, Doohan, Kocinski. 2 x US, 1 x Aus
1993:  Schwanz, Rainey, Beattie. 2 x US, 1 x Aus
1994:  Doohan, Cadalora, Kocinski. 1 x Aus, 1 x Ita, 1 x US
1995:  Doohan, Beattie, Cadalora. 2 x Uas, 1 x Ita
1996:  Doohan, Criville, Cadalora. 1 x Aus, 1 x Spn, 1 x Ita
1997:  Doohan, Okada, Aoki. 1 x Aus, 2 x Jap
1998:  Doohan, Biaggi, Criville. 1 x Aus, 1 x Ita, 1 x Spn
1999:  Criville, Robert Jnr, Okada. 1 x Spn, 1 x US, 1 x Jap
2000:  Roberts Jnr, Rossi, Biaggi.1 x US, 2 x Ita
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 09, 2021, 02:28:17 pm
Spain is a incredible sporting nation, golf, tennis, Trials, MotoGp, F1, etc.

The reason for the US' dominating a few decades ago, is the transition a lot of their riders did from flat-tracking to roadracing, and not being frightened by a bike moving around at high speed.

The Americans took over from the straight-up, no leaning-off-the-bike Britons like Bazza, making the knee-down trend universal.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 09, 2021, 07:15:19 pm
Spain is a incredible sporting nation, golf, tennis, Trials, MotoGp, F1, etc.

The reason for the US' dominating a few decades ago, is the transition a lot of their riders did from flat-tracking to roadracing, and not being frightened by a bike moving around at high speed.

The Americans took over from the straight-up, no leaning-off-the-bike Britons like Bazza, making the knee-down trend universal.

The Americans were extremely good at bike handling due to their flat-track racing skills and therefore the era known as the American invasion.

I don't know the US bike history so well, but I get the impression bike racing (road racing or track racing) sort of collapsed in the USA in an era where it grew exponentially  in Europe.  The current MotoAmerica series who took over the AMA Superbike series under leadership of Wayne Rainey is working hard to fix that, but they are new at the game, having only started in 2015.  Their purpose is: "MotoAmerica's primary goal is to reinvigorate motorcycle road racing in North America and ultimately send its riders to the top-level international championships: MotoGP and World Superbike".  They also work to get riders into Moto 3 and Moto 2 including arranging sponsorships, etc.  They have even created an American Moto 2 team, which, in 2021, will field Cameron Beaubier, MotoAmerica Superbike Champion of 2020.  The team's Racing Director is ex-racer John Hopkins.  The team owned by Eitan Butbul and Avner Kass also created an American Rider Academy recently.



 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 10, 2021, 09:37:05 am
So, two teams have launched their new team colours.

First was Avintia Racing who have two title sponsors this year unveiled first.  We will see blue/black Ducatis on the grid.  This must be a first. One bike is sponsored by Avintia themselves in conjunction with Esponsorama.  The other by Sky VR46.  Avintia have already indicated that this will be their last year in MotoGP.  This announcement coupled with their very public marriage with SkyVR46 and fielding VR46's brother, sort of seals the rumour that there will be a SkyVR46 team on the grid from 2022 onward.  The question is only, what bikes will they use.  I cannot see Rossi accept 2 year old Ducatis and Suzuki is talking about a satellite team.

Second came factory Ducati now with title sponsor Lenovo.  Guess the colour of the bikes.  Indeed, no surprise.  They are, as always, red.  Very red.  Even their winglets are red.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on February 10, 2021, 09:47:12 am
So, two teams have launched their new team colours.

First was Avintia Racing who have two title sponsors this year unveiled first.  We will see blue/black Ducatis on the grid.  This must be a first. One bike is sponsored by Avintia themselves in conjunction with Esponsorama.  The other by Sky VR46.  Avintia have already indicated that this will be their last year in MotoGP.  This announcement coupled with their very public marriage with SkyVR46 and fielding VR46's brother, sort of seals the rumour that there will be a SkyVR46 team on the grid from 2022 onward.  The question is only, what bikes will they use.  I cannot see Rossi accept 2 year old Ducatis and Suzuki is talking about a satellite team.

Second came factory Ducati now with title sponsor Lenovo.  Guess the colour of the bikes.  Indeed, no surprise.  They are, as always, red.  Very red.  Even their winglets are red.
Good Lord they are starting to look like Lego Creator bikes. Suzuki's look best by a country mile, still nice and rounded in all the right places  :drif:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on February 10, 2021, 10:02:23 am
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .

That's Classic!

@TheBear , can I quote you over on ADVrider?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: ZK1 on February 10, 2021, 10:26:24 am
I saw a quick clip on Facebook about how "skelm" F1 is, with filling water tanks with little lead balls in the water after a race to get the weight up etc.

It's seems to be a lot less prevalent in MotoGP, does anyone have any stories like that?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 10, 2021, 01:13:12 pm
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .

That's Classic!

@TheBear , can I quote you over on ADVrider?

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on February 10, 2021, 01:48:46 pm
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .

That's Classic!

@TheBear , can I quote you over on ADVrider?

 :thumleft:

Cool....

https://advrider.com/f/threads/yooperbikemikes-2021-motogp-thread.1477312/page-31#post-41787054
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 10, 2021, 10:22:09 pm
A little early, but by the time you lot wake up it will be Valentino Rossi days to the first race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kerritz on February 11, 2021, 08:50:32 am
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on February 11, 2021, 10:19:18 am
A little early, but by the time you lot wake up it will be Valentino Rossi days to the first race.

Does he not fall in the c19 high risk category?  Will they let him out ? 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on February 11, 2021, 12:45:41 pm
A little early, but by the time you lot wake up it will be Valentino Rossi days to the first race.

Does he not fall in the c19 high risk category?  Will they let him out ?
High risk because... he's old? :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 11, 2021, 08:59:49 pm
A little early, but by the time you lot wake up it will be Valentino Rossi days to the first race.

Does he not fall in the c19 high risk category?  Will they let him out ?
High risk because... he's old? :lol8:

Nope.  Declared low risk, because unlike you two old farts, he can still ride faster than Covid can travel on the back of a 99,9% dead bat crawling through molasses.   :lol8:

MODS!  I need a NUKE THE F*CKERS button please?  I promise, I will use it with great responsibility.  Njannies.   :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 11, 2021, 09:03:52 pm
A little early, but by the time you lot wake up it will be Valentino Rossi days to the first race.

Does he not fall in the c19 high risk category?  Will they let him out ?

He's taken his AstraZeneca. :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 11, 2021, 09:03:58 pm
Ah yes, MotoGP in the good old days.  Here we see the reigning world champion relaxing in the team's luxury motor home, while highly qualified technicians fine tune his bike with their laptops in a top notch, high tech garage befitting a factory world championship racing team.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BullSmit on February 12, 2021, 10:37:29 am
En dit lyk of hy 'n babelaas probeer afslaap....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Warren Ellwood on February 12, 2021, 11:29:07 am
So no Red Bull on the Tech 3 bikes.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950830/1/first-look-tech3-ktm-turns-orange-motogp-2021

Very pretty though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 12, 2021, 02:45:53 pm
So no Red Bull on the Tech 3 bikes.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950830/1/first-look-tech3-ktm-turns-orange-motogp-2021

Very pretty though.

There were rumours late last year that Red Bull would withdraw as sponsor for the Tech3 team.  It seems those rumours were true.  The small ELF logo may indicate where the title sponsor will come from in a year or so.

It seems there is no shortage or orange paint though ....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 12, 2021, 02:53:32 pm
The Red Bull KTM Factory bikes are pretty much the same as last year.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 12, 2021, 02:56:17 pm
Joan Mir announced today that he will race with his number 36 and not with 1, which the champion is allowed to do.  This tradition is alive and well with Johanthan Rea reviving it in WSBK (he asked fans to vote), but MotoGP riders seem to have dumped this tradition around 07 or so.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: ZK1 on February 12, 2021, 03:40:25 pm
Joan Mir announced today that he will race with his number 36 and not with 1, which the champion is allowed to do.  This tradition is alive and well with Johanthan Rea reviving it in WSBK (he asked fans to vote), but MotoGP riders seem to have dumped this tradition around 07 or so.
Probably because so many sponsors and merch etc is connected to the number.

I know if I had to make stuff, and now have to change all the jigs and templates etc just because this little f..cker now wants to run another number I will sh1t myself.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Warren Ellwood on February 12, 2021, 04:25:42 pm
Joan Mir announced today that he will race with his number 36 and not with 1, which the champion is allowed to do.  This tradition is alive and well with Johanthan Rea reviving it in WSBK (he asked fans to vote), but MotoGP riders seem to have dumped this tradition around 07 or so.
Probably because so many sponsors and merch etc is connected to the number.

I know if I had to make stuff, and now have to change all the jigs and templates etc just because this little f..cker now wants to run another number I will sh1t myself.  :imaposer:

Well there is the fact that Johnathan Rea has been number 1 for a few years, and can probably sell No 1 merchandise for a few more years as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 12, 2021, 06:55:23 pm
Joan Mir announced today that he will race with his number 36 and not with 1, which the champion is allowed to do.  This tradition is alive and well with Johanthan Rea reviving it in WSBK (he asked fans to vote), but MotoGP riders seem to have dumped this tradition around 07 or so.
Probably because so many sponsors and merch etc is connected to the number.

I know if I had to make stuff, and now have to change all the jigs and templates etc just because this little f..cker now wants to run another number I will sh1t myself.  :imaposer:

Well there is the fact that Johnathan Rea has been number 1 for a few years, and can probably sell No 1 merchandise for a few more years as well.

Yeah, but when Jonathan Rea decided to shift from 65 to 1, he couldn't have known he would be number one for many years to come. 

Personally, I think the riders stopped with the tradition for two reasons.  One is the merch, advertising, etc. coupled to the number and two is what caused one.  Numbers like 46, 93, 99, etc. became iconic.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 12, 2021, 08:29:07 pm
And then there is the superstitious riders who make sure they put the left glove on before the right one. Right boot left boot. Lucky underpants ect ect ect. Imagine the torment of changing a number.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 12, 2021, 09:15:31 pm
So no Red Bull on the Tech 3 bikes.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950830/1/first-look-tech3-ktm-turns-orange-motogp-2021

Very pretty though.

There were rumours late last year that Red Bull would withdraw as sponsor for the Tech3 team.  It seems those rumours were true.  The small ELF logo may indicate where the title sponsor will come from in a year or so.

It seems there is no shortage or orange paint though ....
I find it strange that they couldn't get some  more sponsers considering their 2 wins and KTM's progress over the 2020 season. Could it be a French Austria thing. Elf also being a French sponser. What about a Renault Elf Teck3 KTM team.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 12, 2021, 09:29:14 pm
Ah yes, MotoGP in the good old days.  Here we see the reigning world champion relaxing in the team's luxury motor home, while highly qualified technicians fine tune his bike with their laptops in a top notch, high tech garage befitting a factory world championship racing team.

The technician furthest away is in fact one of the most knowledgeable people to ever have spannered on a racebike. He is Kel Carruthers.

The 3 stooges across the Cortina bonnet is unknown.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on February 12, 2021, 10:14:26 pm
Joan Mir announced today that he will race with his number 36 and not with 1, which the champion is allowed to do.  This tradition is alive and well with Johanthan Rea reviving it in WSBK (he asked fans to vote), but MotoGP riders seem to have dumped this tradition around 07 or so.
He just knows he was not the best because MM93 was not there  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 13, 2021, 05:12:49 pm
So no Red Bull on the Tech 3 bikes.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950830/1/first-look-tech3-ktm-turns-orange-motogp-2021

Very pretty though.

There were rumours late last year that Red Bull would withdraw as sponsor for the Tech3 team.  It seems those rumours were true.  The small ELF logo may indicate where the title sponsor will come from in a year or so.

It seems there is no shortage or orange paint though ....
I find it strange that they couldn't get some  more sponsers considering their 2 wins and KTM's progress over the 2020 season. Could it be a French Austria thing. Elf also being a French sponser. What about a Renault Elf Teck3 KTM team.

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Perhaps the official dumping of Tech3 by Red Bull came to late to find a full title sponsor for this season?  Then again, KTM themselves sponsoring the Tech3 team as title sponsor is not a completely bad idea for them.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 13, 2021, 05:15:02 pm
Joan Mir announced today that he will race with his number 36 and not with 1, which the champion is allowed to do.  This tradition is alive and well with Johanthan Rea reviving it in WSBK (he asked fans to vote), but MotoGP riders seem to have dumped this tradition around 07 or so.

He just knows he was not the best because MM93 was not there  :pot:

Must be that, yes.    :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 13, 2021, 05:31:15 pm
Pol Espargaro days to first race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on February 13, 2021, 05:36:32 pm
So no Red Bull on the Tech 3 bikes.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950830/1/first-look-tech3-ktm-turns-orange-motogp-2021

Very pretty though.

There were rumours late last year that Red Bull would withdraw as sponsor for the Tech3 team.  It seems those rumours were true.  The small ELF logo may indicate where the title sponsor will come from in a year or so.

It seems there is no shortage or orange paint though ....


They do look damn fine in all that orange!!! :thumleft:

Never noticed those serrations in the upper fairing before...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 13, 2021, 05:40:52 pm
So no Red Bull on the Tech 3 bikes.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950830/1/first-look-tech3-ktm-turns-orange-motogp-2021

Very pretty though.

There were rumours late last year that Red Bull would withdraw as sponsor for the Tech3 team.  It seems those rumours were true.  The small ELF logo may indicate where the title sponsor will come from in a year or so.

It seems there is no shortage or orange paint though ....


They do look damn fine in all that orange!!! :thumleft:

Never noticed those serrations in the upper fairing before...
They arrived in 2020.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 13, 2021, 05:41:04 pm
Ah yes, MotoGP in the good old days.  Here we see the reigning world champion relaxing in the team's luxury motor home, while highly qualified technicians fine tune his bike with their laptops in a top notch, high tech garage befitting a factory world championship racing team.

The technician furthest away is in fact one of the most knowledgeable people to ever have spannered on a racebike. He is Kel Carruthers.

The 3 stooges across the Cortina bonnet is unknown.

And you got to love the beer cans for knee sliders that were standard issue.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on February 13, 2021, 05:43:28 pm
Ah yes, MotoGP in the good old days.  Here we see the reigning world champion relaxing in the team's luxury motor home, while highly qualified technicians fine tune his bike with their laptops in a top notch, high tech garage befitting a factory world championship racing team.

The technician furthest away is in fact one of the most knowledgeable people to ever have spannered on a racebike. He is Kel Carruthers.

The 3 stooges across the Cortina bonnet is unknown.

And you got to love the beer cans for knee sliders that were standard issue.  :thumleft:
Those days it took a real man to crush one of those beer cans in one hand.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on February 13, 2021, 05:53:58 pm
Pol Espargaro days to first race.

Will be my hero's days before long ... # 41  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 14, 2021, 09:42:01 am
Some weird Australian days to first race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 14, 2021, 09:43:36 am
Ah yes, MotoGP in the good old days.  Here we see the reigning world champion relaxing in the team's luxury motor home, while highly qualified technicians fine tune his bike with their laptops in a top notch, high tech garage befitting a factory world championship racing team.

The technician furthest away is in fact one of the most knowledgeable people to ever have spannered on a racebike. He is Kel Carruthers.

The 3 stooges across the Cortina bonnet is unknown.

And you got to love the beer cans for knee sliders that were standard issue.  :thumleft:

Greatest advantage of a factory team, is that the beer that produced the cans was not paid for by the rider himself.  :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 15, 2021, 12:49:38 pm
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on February 15, 2021, 03:03:05 pm
Still got the training wheels, I see .....................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 15, 2021, 03:27:11 pm
Still got the training wheels, I see .....................  :biggrin:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

It is for the youngsters now riding for them. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 15, 2021, 06:22:20 pm
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Valves included? :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 15, 2021, 07:12:11 pm
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Valves included? :pot:

I was told they now have their valves made by an Indian valve manufacturing company.  Apparently these guys are trusted valve manufacturers because they expertly make kiddies swimming aids and their valves never fail .....   :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 15, 2021, 08:11:57 pm
Very unfashionable to make snide anti-Yamaha comments only a few days after Valentines.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 15, 2021, 08:18:57 pm
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Not sure who one must focus/not focus on?

BTW - Which one is 2SD's Valentine?  ???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on February 16, 2021, 07:59:25 am
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Not sure who one must focus/not focus on?

BTW - Which one is 2SD's Valentine?  ???
What a horrible photoshop, all their money must have gone to valve R&D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on February 16, 2021, 08:01:32 am
Suzuki but from last year
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 16, 2021, 11:37:56 am
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Not sure who one must focus/not focus on?

BTW - Which one is 2SD's Valentine?  ???
What a horrible photoshop, all their money must have gone to valve R&D

Yamaha is after all the company that brought you the reliable high performance valve....... :ricky: Way back in 1997. :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on February 16, 2021, 02:29:42 pm
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Not sure who one must focus/not focus on?

BTW - Which one is 2SD's Valentine?  ???
What a horrible photoshop, all their money must have gone to valve R&D

Yamaha is after all the company that brought you the reliable high performance valve....... :ricky: Way back in 1997. :deal:
Clearly those valves have now reached their "Best Before" date. :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 16, 2021, 02:36:59 pm
Very unfashionable to make snide anti-Yamaha comments only a few days after Valentines.

Even worse, a day prior to VR46's birthday!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 16, 2021, 02:38:14 pm
Yamaha Factory team bikes launched today.  Pretty much the same as previous year.

Not sure who one must focus/not focus on?

BTW - Which one is 2SD's Valentine?  ???

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Yamaha is after all the company that brought you the reliable high performance valve....... :ricky: Way back in 1997. :deal:

They should have replaced them before the 2020 season.   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 16, 2021, 06:53:07 pm
There is no truth in the rumour that the Tech3 KTM team will be sponsored by Oros.


Will be my hero's days before long ... # 41  :ricky:

Specially for @RobD

Aleix Espargaro days to first MotoGP race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on February 16, 2021, 07:35:36 pm
There is no truth in the rumour that the Tech3 KTM team will be sponsored by Oros.


Will be my hero's days before long ... # 41  :ricky:

Specially for @RobD

Aleix Espargaro days to first MotoGP race.

Nee man! Voerstek djy jou ongeskikte man.....

If you are joking then I'm really impressed  :laughing4:, if you are dissing the legend of Noriyuki Haga we are gonna baklei.... :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 16, 2021, 07:51:03 pm
There is no truth in the rumour that the Tech3 KTM team will be sponsored by Oros.


Will be my hero's days before long ... # 41  :ricky:

Specially for @RobD

Aleix Espargaro days to first MotoGP race.

Nee man! Voerstek djy jou ongeskikte man.....

If you are joking then I'm really impressed  :laughing4:, if you are dissing the legend of Noriyuki Haga we are gonna baklei.... :pot:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

I have to admit, I did find your passion for Mr. Esparagus, Aleix strange, but I have seen stranger, so I accepted your choice.  Pray Sir, forgiveness.  Askies!  A honest mistake.  Herewith a correction as I would never diss the NitroNori!

Noriyuki Haga days to first MotoGP race for 2021.

 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on February 16, 2021, 08:09:08 pm
There is no truth in the rumour that the Tech3 KTM team will be sponsored by Oros.


Will be my hero's days before long ... # 41  :ricky:

Specially for @RobD

Aleix Espargaro days to first MotoGP race.

Nee man! Voerstek djy jou ongeskikte man.....

If you are joking then I'm really impressed  :laughing4:, if you are dissing the legend of Noriyuki Haga we are gonna baklei.... :pot:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

I have to admit, I did find your passion for Mr. Esparagus, Aleix strange, but I have seen stranger, so I accepted your choice.  Pray Sir, forgiveness.  Askies!  A honest mistake.  Herewith a correction as I would never diss the NitroNori!

Noriyuki Haga days to first MotoGP race for 2021.


Forgiveness granted and correction appreciated!..... #Nitronori  #samuraiofslide  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 17, 2021, 10:03:15 am
Dive Bomber days to first race!

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 17, 2021, 12:34:54 pm
Good news.. looks like he will be back on the grid with Pol.

Game on

https://motogp.hondaracingcorporation.com/report/ten-week-medical-check-for-marc-marquez/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 17, 2021, 02:20:43 pm
Good news.. looks like he will be back on the grid with Pol.

Game on

https://motogp.hondaracingcorporation.com/report/ten-week-medical-check-for-marc-marquez/

It is his birthday today.  Getting long in the tooth now moving towards 30 and all.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 20, 2021, 12:46:54 pm
The official Honda satellite team, LCR Honda launched their team colours.  As in the past and like Avintia Ducati this year they will have two different sponsors for the two bikes.  Takaaki Nakagami will again be on the Idemnitsu sponsored bike, while Alex Marquez takes over the Givi sponsored bike from Cal Crutchlow.  You would be forgiven if you thought AM73 is sponsored by Smarties.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 20, 2021, 02:51:04 pm
Ooooh, just a hint of old Castrol colours there. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 21, 2021, 01:30:49 pm
Joan Mir days to start of the first race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 22, 2021, 01:40:53 pm
2021 Repsol Hondas launched.  Could be the 2020 bikes, or perhaps the 2002 ones ....  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 22, 2021, 03:08:45 pm
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 22, 2021, 04:00:32 pm
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .

Do they have Braille version?  ???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 22, 2021, 04:36:17 pm
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .

Who is this " everyone"  who want to change the Repsol colours?  I have yet to meet such a person.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 22, 2021, 05:53:34 pm

https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2021/02/22/the-full-2021-repsol-honda-team-official-presentation/361689?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=offseason_launchvideo_en&utm_campaign=traffic&j=397257&sfmc_sub=36808727&l=97_HTML&u=28653693&mid=100010274&jb=1024
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 22, 2021, 09:13:47 pm
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .

Yes, they're the only colours that still look like a racebike, and not an artist's colour chart or palette.

Look at those LCR satellite bikes, I believe they do short pink, but the rest is all there. :eek7:

Repsol Hondas remind me of the Marlboro Yamahas. Beauties.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 23, 2021, 09:52:42 am
Some guy from the past days to first MGP.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 23, 2021, 09:54:33 am
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .

Yes, they're the only colours that still look like a racebike, and not an artist's colour chart or palette.

Look at those LCR satellite bikes, I believe they do short pink, but the rest is all there. :eek7:

Repsol Hondas remind me of the Marlboro Yamahas. Beauties.

To be fair on the colour schemes, Repsol Honda is one of the few teams who only have one major sponsor.  The LCR team bike that AM73 rides share sponsorship with Givi and Castrol and a few smaller ones.  Also, even the Marlboro Yamahas (and like you I loved their looks) went through a few colour scheme design changes over the years.

I have to confess though, this was the most beautiful race bike ever, in my not so humble opinion.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/37/9b/2e379b0c21fe2467ae3a574748c28d71.jpg)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 24, 2021, 09:14:37 am
Only BB33 days to first MGP in Qatar!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Antonie on February 24, 2021, 05:11:16 pm
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950932/1/official-motogp-team-principal-fausto-gresini-has-died
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 24, 2021, 05:13:55 pm
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950932/1/official-motogp-team-principal-fausto-gresini-has-died

Yes all over the motorsport press. Very sad loss to motorsport and MotoGP. He was a double world champ himself. RIP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 24, 2021, 06:48:29 pm
 >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 24, 2021, 08:36:41 pm
 :eek7: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Antonie on February 24, 2021, 09:10:56 pm
>:D
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 25, 2021, 09:29:34 am
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/950932/1/official-motogp-team-principal-fausto-gresini-has-died

Yes all over the motorsport press. Very sad loss to motorsport and MotoGP. He was a double world champ himself. RIP.

Very sad news.  He spend 2 months in hospital prior to his passing.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=256251.0
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 25, 2021, 09:31:20 am
>:D

MODS!!!

KILROY!!!

I really, I mean REALLY need a " NUKE THE F*CK*R!" button urgently!   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 25, 2021, 11:18:37 am
Ducati and their MotoGP riders went private testing on Jerez a week or so ago.  Ducati test rider Michele Pirro was riding the 2021 MotoGP Desmosidici while the riders (not allowed to test) were on street legal V4R Panigales.  The Panigales had the same slick tyres on as the MotoGP bike and all go fast parts available for Ducati customers at Ducati dealers.  On average, at the end of the day, the MotoGP riders were just on 2s slower per lap than the MotoGP bike.

Now, 2s in that sport can be an age, but that is still bloody impressive and it does raise a few questions:

1. Is the Panigale V4R really that good?
2. Is the Desmocidici really that crap?
3. Is the Ducatio MotoGP riders that much better than their test rider?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 25, 2021, 12:14:30 pm
>:D

MODS!!!

KILROY!!!

I really, I mean REALLY need a " NUKE THE F*CK*R!" button urgently!   >:D

Guess what, Snow-white got no length increase there!

Perhaps some wood-splinters up her wagongyna.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 25, 2021, 12:22:21 pm
>:D

MODS!!!

KILROY!!!

I really, I mean REALLY need a " NUKE THE F*CK*R!" button urgently!   >:D

Guess what, Snow-white got no length increase there!

Perhaps some wood-splinters up her wagongyna.

I also feel she was left unsatisfied. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 25, 2021, 01:11:50 pm
I think he has a nose for these things  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 25, 2021, 05:11:07 pm
I think he has a nose for these things  :imaposer:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

For incredibly sharp wit you move from #1 to #5 on my TO BE NUKED list.   :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on February 25, 2021, 07:32:19 pm
I think he has a nose for these things  :imaposer:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

For incredibly sharp wit you move from #1 to #5 on my TO BE NUKED list.   :snorting:

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 25, 2021, 10:59:20 pm
Pramac Ducatis launched.  News is that both Pramac Ducatis will be 100% factory spec.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on February 26, 2021, 09:24:49 am
>:D

MODS!!!

KILROY!!!

I really, I mean REALLY need a " NUKE THE F*CK*R!" button urgently!   >:D

Had the button ready but it as unreliable - used Yamaha’s valves...

Btw - fark Suzuki. They must race in yellow or white, not farking blue like proper working yamahas.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 26, 2021, 09:53:07 am
>:D

MODS!!!

KILROY!!!

I really, I mean REALLY need a " NUKE THE F*CK*R!" button urgently!   >:D

Had the button ready but it as unreliable - used Yamaha’s valves...

Btw - fark Suzuki. They must race in yellow or white, not farking blue like proper working yamahas.

I told you to get the parts for the nuke button made in China.  Why did you not listen?

Agreed on the Suzukis.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on February 26, 2021, 10:31:13 am
Pramac Ducatis launched.  News is that both Pramac Ducatis will be 100% factory spec.


Jirrrrrrrr...... Daai bikes raak elke jaar net leliker!

Remember when they were beautiful and deadly creatures?






Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on February 26, 2021, 01:07:41 pm
Thankfully, pretty soon, we will be watching them at 330 km/h which will make them all rather pretty.    :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on February 26, 2021, 01:13:02 pm
Pramac Ducatis launched.  News is that both Pramac Ducatis will be 100% factory spec.


Jirrrrrrrr...... Daai bikes raak elke jaar net leliker!

Remember when they were beautiful and deadly creatures?

 Stem 100% saam Maar ons raak ook elke jaar ouer!!!!

Hulle is dalk mooier vir die nuwe generasie!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on February 27, 2021, 05:25:18 pm
Pramac Ducatis launched.  News is that both Pramac Ducatis will be 100% factory spec.


Jirrrrrrrr...... Daai bikes raak elke jaar net leliker!

Remember when they were beautiful and deadly creatures?

 Stem 100% saam Maar ons raak ook elke jaar ouer!!!!

Hulle is dalk mooier vir die nuwe generasie!!!

Feite broer!! :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 27, 2021, 08:22:51 pm
Pramac Ducatis launched.  News is that both Pramac Ducatis will be 100% factory spec.


Jirrrrrrrr...... Daai bikes raak elke jaar net leliker!

Remember when they were beautiful and deadly creatures?

 Stem 100% saam Maar ons raak ook elke jaar ouer!!!!

Hulle is dalk mooier vir die nuwe generasie!!!

As dit waar is, het die nuwe generasie mos swak smaak. :ricky: :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 01, 2021, 09:26:05 am
Casey Stoner days to first race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 01, 2021, 12:00:19 pm
Petronas Sepang Rcing Team Yamaha launched their bikes for the 2021 season today.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 01, 2021, 01:51:14 pm
Petronas Sepang Rcing Team Yamaha launched their bikes for the 2021 season today.
They dont look very excited
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: mox on March 01, 2021, 02:08:27 pm
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/03/01/petronas-sepang-racing-team-launch-their-2021-campaign/362128
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BullSmit on March 01, 2021, 02:46:19 pm
Petronas Sepang Rcing Team Yamaha launched their bikes for the 2021 season today.
They dont look very excited

They have their 'race faces' on!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 01, 2021, 02:53:28 pm
So bly VR ry nog met sulke dayglo inserts in sy mondering.
Dit is makliker om hom uit te ken in die middel van die veld. ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 01, 2021, 07:29:35 pm
So bly VR ry nog met sulke dayglo inserts in sy mondering.
Dit is makliker om hom uit te ken in die middel van die veld. ;)

Dan moet ou MM vir hom n dayglow huis bou dat ons hom daar kan uitken...... :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2021, 11:27:02 am
So bly VR ry nog met sulke dayglo inserts in sy mondering.
Dit is makliker om hom uit te ken in die middel van die veld. ;)

Dan moet ou MM vir hom n dayglow huis bou dat ons hom daar kan uitken...... :ricky:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2021, 11:27:41 am
So bly VR ry nog met sulke dayglo inserts in sy mondering.
Dit is makliker om hom uit te ken in die middel van die veld. ;)

Dis dus vir jou belangrik om hom uit te ken?  Mens kan verstaan.  The GOAT!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2021, 11:29:55 am
Dani Pedrosa days to the first race.

(Only a few days to first official testing!)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 02, 2021, 12:53:50 pm
Dani Pedrosa days to the first race.

(Only a few days to first official testing!)

Nefie, het hy omgeval daar of beweeg hy hmmm?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: ZK1 on March 02, 2021, 02:53:38 pm
Dani Pedrosa days to the first race.

(Only a few days to first official testing!)

Nefie, het hy omgeval daar of beweeg hy hmmm?
Jy sal dit nie glo nie, maar hy ry daar teen 'n vertikale muur..............
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 02, 2021, 02:57:21 pm
En sy klere is deesdae meer oranje...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 02, 2021, 04:31:52 pm
Dani Pedrosa days to the first race.

(Only a few days to first official testing!)

Nefie, het hy omgeval daar of beweeg hy hmmm?

Nee hel, my omie.  Ek weet nie.  Ek kyk ok maar net die kiekies.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on March 02, 2021, 05:23:31 pm
Dani Pedrosa

Is hy terug vanjaar?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 03, 2021, 08:09:44 am
Dani Pedrosa

Is hy terug vanjaar?

KTM Test Rider
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 03, 2021, 08:10:56 am
I see DB40 finished 7th yesterday after his first outing on the Honda. Ahead of his team mate and about .8 down on P1.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 03, 2021, 09:26:18 am
Is see DB40 finished 7th yesterday after his first outing on the Honda. Ahead of his team mate and about .8 down on P1.

I am hoping for big things from Darryn this season. It still seems so long to wait.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 03, 2021, 09:30:16 am
Is see DB40 finished 7th yesterday after his first outing on the Honda. Ahead of his team mate and about .8 down on P1.

I am hoping for big things from Darryn this season. It still seems so long to wait.

I'm holding thumbs too.
This year is probably his last chance to make a proper career out of it. He is in a proper team with a pipeline to MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on March 03, 2021, 10:16:18 am
Is see DB40 finished 7th yesterday after his first outing on the Honda. Ahead of his team mate and about .8 down on P1.

I am hoping for big things from Darryn this season. It still seems so long to wait.

I'm holding thumbs too.
This year is probably his last chance to make a proper career out of it. He is in a proper team with a pipeline to MotoGP.

I like his attitude and he seems to have matured a little. I always thought he was a little big for those smaller bikes. More hp might  be a great thing for him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 03, 2021, 10:29:57 am
Yeah, this year won't be easy, Moto3 never is.
But I believe it was the better move to stay behind for a seat in a major squad with arguably the best bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 03, 2021, 12:17:40 pm
Is see DB40 finished 7th yesterday after his first outing on the Honda. Ahead of his team mate and about .8 down on P1.

I am hoping for big things from Darryn this season. It still seems so long to wait.

I'm holding thumbs too.
This year is probably his last chance to make a proper career out of it. He is in a proper team with a pipeline to MotoGP.

I like his attitude and he seems to have matured a little. I always thought he was a little big for those smaller bikes. More hp might  be a great thing for him.

He is way better off on a #1 team's Moto3 bike, rather than a third team Moto2 bike.  Weak Moto2 teams is where great Moto3 riders go to disappear for ever.  The Petronas team is now arguably the best setup to be in as they are the only team competitive in all three classes.  There are only one other team competing in all three classes and that is the Gresini team who stinks on the Aprilias in MotoGP.  What about KTM you ask?  They do not have a team in Moto2.  The Ajo Racing team uses a Kalex with KTM sponsorship.  So, Darryn going into Petronas was a brilliant move on their part.

Darryn is an excellent rider and like BB33 will shine if on a bike, even a Moto3 bike, if the bike is competitive.  Many have already forgotten how often BB33, then BB41 crashed on the Mahindras and Hondas before he got the factory KTM ride.  A commentator once said about Brad: "If it wasn't for bad luck, this kid would have no luck". 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 03, 2021, 01:44:11 pm
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .

Who is this " everyone"  who want to change the Repsol colours?  I have yet to meet such a person.

Do you follow HRC on facebook?

Go look at the comments when Repsol release their livery.

You will find 100's of people commenting about how boring Honda is because the bikes look the same as the last year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 03, 2021, 02:52:30 pm
Repsol.. by far my favourite, but then again I'm a bit biased.

I'm not sure why everyone wants to have Honda change the Repsol Colours, I think it looks fantastic especially under the lights at Quatar.. .

Who is this " everyone"  who want to change the Repsol colours?  I have yet to meet such a person.

Do you follow HRC on facebook?

Go look at the comments when Repsol release their livery.

You will find 100's of people commenting about how boring Honda is because the bikes look the same as the last year.

No, I don't follow HRC on FB.  You will agree with me that 100's of people commenting on the boring Repsol colours would hardly
constitutes "everyone".   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 04, 2021, 10:34:15 am
I didnt know that we had to be so literal when discussing things on Wild Dogs, my mistake.

So to be clear then just for the sake of moving on. Not everyone.

I'll go and calculate the percentage of people being negative and compare it to people being positive and give you feedback on the correct percentage of people against the colours. :o

happy?

moving on. ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on March 04, 2021, 10:37:34 am
I didnt know that we had to be so literal when discussing things on Wild Dogs, my mistake.

So to be clear then just for the sake of moving on. Not everyone.

I'll go and calculate the percentage of people being negative and compare it to people being positive and give you feedback on the correct percentage of people against the colours. :o

happy?

moving on. ::)


Can we have a pie chart please Muzzy?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2021, 10:42:34 am
I didnt know that we had to be so literal when discussing things on Wild Dogs, my mistake.

So to be clear then just for the sake of moving on. Not everyone.

I'll go and calculate the percentage of people being negative and compare it to people being positive and give you feedback on the correct percentage of people against the colours. :o

happy?

moving on. ::)

No, not happy and most certainly not moving on.  You have yet to report back on your findings after the + and - comparison.  Step on it please.

You are now #2 on my "F*ck*r to be Nuked" list for rolling your little eyes at me.  Pasopa!   >:D

Side note:  I saw in another thread some dude singing your praises because you never insult people.  I thought to myself, "that can't be right. Fuzzy calls me an idiot at least once a week."   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2021, 10:43:49 am
I didnt know that we had to be so literal when discussing things on Wild Dogs, my mistake.

So to be clear then just for the sake of moving on. Not everyone.

I'll go and calculate the percentage of people being negative and compare it to people being positive and give you feedback on the correct percentage of people against the colours. :o

happy?

moving on. ::)


Can we have a pie chart please Muzzy?  :imaposer:

Oh!  Don't be so literal!  Just a list with numbers will be fine.   :snorting:

I wonder why everyone is demanding pie charts these days?   :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2021, 10:59:52 am
I see DB40 stayed within the top 7 during unofficial testing on Jerez yesterday.  Team mate McPhee ended the day 2nd fastest.  While we all know these early tests are not much of an indication, I do believe top 10 during these early tests is way better than bottom 10. 

Tomorrow, official testing starts at Qatar.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2021, 03:53:33 pm
One day before shake down testing starts at Qatar, Aprilia launched their 2021 colours.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 04, 2021, 05:51:09 pm
One day before shake down testing starts at Qatar, Aprilia launched their 2021 colours.

Well these colours aint saying much for democracy.. . :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 04, 2021, 06:06:02 pm
One day before shake down testing starts at Qatar, Aprilia launched their 2021 colours.
Going to look in the kitty litter  >:D Seriously I support the underdogs but come on MM, show them who is boss
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 04, 2021, 07:11:58 pm
If I had a company called Sky, I'd be sponsoring the blue bikes ........................................... which, incidentally, will be getting you a lot of coverage this year  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2021, 08:59:04 pm
If I had a company called Sky, I'd be sponsoring the blue bikes ........................................... which, incidentally, will be getting you a lot of coverage this year  >:D

You mean like the Sky VR46 teams in all three classes?  Those Sky bikes?   ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 04, 2021, 09:35:15 pm
One day before shake down testing starts at Qatar, Aprilia launched their 2021 colours.

Underwhelming much.  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on March 05, 2021, 07:45:26 am
Bring back the cigarettes- they knew how to brand bikes.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on March 05, 2021, 07:47:08 am
Own the night...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on March 05, 2021, 07:48:57 am
Men rate Gunston great...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 05, 2021, 11:38:30 am
This was my boyhood wet dream Gunston cage - Ford Capri Perana V8
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 05, 2021, 12:00:01 pm
BigDom, mine too, and they were standing on the floor of Donford motors in Stellenbosch in the 70's, when Donford was still the local Yamaha agent.

Yes, these monsters were on display next to AG100's. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 05, 2021, 12:01:25 pm
FOUR WHEELED MONSTROSITIES!!!

*gasp shock horror*

I sort of disagree with Kiljoy.  No shit, hey?  MotoGP bikes are a lot like racing greyhounds.  The one that crosses the finishing line first is the prettiest.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 05, 2021, 12:04:59 pm
BigDom, mine too, and they were standing on the floor of Donford motors in Stellenbosch in the 70's, when Donford was still the local Yamaha agent.

Yes, these monsters were on display next to AG100's. :eek7:

Yeah, I also drooled over them.  My uncle had a 3.0 V6 that was breathed upon by Basil Green.  It can't remember the details but cams and exhausts and all sorts of other go fast stuff.  This thing would go man.  It really did.  I used to feel like the main man when we went to Kyalami to watch the racing and those Gunston Peranas came by since I arrived in a Capri, albeit it not a Perana.

Even today, I rate the Capri as one of the more beautiful cars ever build.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 05, 2021, 12:15:44 pm
I didnt know that we had to be so literal when discussing things on Wild Dogs, my mistake.

So to be clear then just for the sake of moving on. Not everyone.

I'll go and calculate the percentage of people being negative and compare it to people being positive and give you feedback on the correct percentage of people against the colours. :o

happy?

moving on. ::)

No, not happy and most certainly not moving on.  You have yet to report back on your findings after the + and - comparison.  Step on it please.

You are now #2 on my "F*ck*r to be Nuked" list for rolling your little eyes at me.  Pasopa!   >:D

Side note:  I saw in another thread some dude singing your praises because you never insult people.  I thought to myself, "that can't be right. Fuzzy calls me an idiot at least once a week."   >:D

I don't recall calling you an idiot once a week..  I usually try to be as respectful as possible.

As for rolling my eyes.. did you mean these eyes  :laughing4: :laughing4:

All good, we all love GP here and I for one am very happy with the Repsol Livery seeing as I have 2 Repsol bikes.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 05, 2021, 02:09:24 pm
I didnt know that we had to be so literal when discussing things on Wild Dogs, my mistake.

So to be clear then just for the sake of moving on. Not everyone.

I'll go and calculate the percentage of people being negative and compare it to people being positive and give you feedback on the correct percentage of people against the colours. :o

happy?

moving on. ::)

No, not happy and most certainly not moving on.  You have yet to report back on your findings after the + and - comparison.  Step on it please.

You are now #2 on my "F*ck*r to be Nuked" list for rolling your little eyes at me.  Pasopa!   >:D

Side note:  I saw in another thread some dude singing your praises because you never insult people.  I thought to myself, "that can't be right. Fuzzy calls me an idiot at least once a week."   >:D

I don't recall calling you an idiot once a week.. 

I didn't know we had to be so literal on WDs, my mistake!   ::)

Ai tog Fuzzball dude, forgive me.  It is MotoGP withdrawal causing me to say these things. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 06, 2021, 06:57:47 pm
Suzuki unveils.  No major change except for the addition of the Monster Energy logos.  Can this be an early indication that there will be a VR46 Suzuki team on the grid in coming years?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 06, 2021, 07:05:18 pm
Final results from Qatar Shake down tests. Friday 5 February.

Only test riders and rookies allowed to ride.

1. Bradl - Repsol Honda
2. Yamaha Test Rider - Yamaha Test 2
3. Yamaha Test Rider - Yamaha Test 1
4. Bastianini - Avintia Esponsorama Ducati
5. Pirro - Lenovo Ducati
6. Yamaha Test Rider - Yamaha Test 3
7. Savadori - Aorilia Gresini
8. Marini - VR46 Ducati Avintia
9. Guintoli - Ecstar Suzuki
10. Martin - Pramac Ducati
11. Pedrosa - KTM Test
12. Tsuda - Ecstar Suzuki
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 06, 2021, 10:07:55 pm
BB Putting the hammer down early.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 07, 2021, 07:46:24 am
BB Putting the hammer down early.

BB also put the hammer down early last year, and that petered out, so let's see what happens.

Yamaha seems to be a bit worried about testing and first two races at Losail, as they do well there, but start struggling in Europe.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 07, 2021, 07:53:25 am
BB Putting the hammer down early.

BB also put the hammer down early last year, and that petered out, so let's see what happens.


Disingenuous much.

PS Please do not discuss Yamaha's woes in the same post as BB   :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 07, 2021, 08:05:48 am
BB Putting the hammer down early.

BB also put the hammer down early last year, and that petered out, so let's see what happens.


Disingenuous much.

PS Please do not discuss Yamaha's woes in the same post as BB   :imaposer:

With all it's woes, and I admit there were many, Yamaha still topped KTM in the manufacturer's championships....... O0

Seriously, Dom, Brad himself expressed unhappiness about his rookie year mistakes, basically throwing away a chance at better points.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 07, 2021, 09:24:10 am

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With all it's woes, and I admit there were many, Yamaha still topped KTM in the manufacturer's championships....... O0

And so they should having been in MotoGP forever unlike KTM!

Seriously, Dom, Brad himself expressed unhappiness about his rookie year mistakes, basically throwing away a chance at better points.

Pretty normal rookie year IMHO with some brilliant rides in the mix that gave him the Rookie of the Year trophy. Obviously he will kick himself for the over exuberance on occasion.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 07, 2021, 10:47:54 am
Final results from Saturday, Day 1 testing:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 07, 2021, 12:25:40 pm


With all it's woes, and I admit there were many, Yamaha still topped KTM in the manufacturer's championships....... O0

And so they should having been in MotoGP forever unlike KTM!

Seriously, Dom, Brad himself expressed unhappiness about his rookie year mistakes, basically throwing away a chance at better points.

Pretty normal rookie year IMHO with some brilliant rides in the mix that gave him the Rookie of the Year trophy. Obviously he will kick himself for the over exuberance on occasion.

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No anti-Brad sentiments from me, he himself expressed an opinion that he made stupid mistakes. He still did well though.

Also, in today's world of racing, it means nothing that you have been racing for a long time, things are too much on edge, and changes happen too quickly.

Given enough money an outsider can win a title. Has KTM not won titles in the smaller classes of GP?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 07, 2021, 02:12:35 pm
That spoiler on the RSV looks like it was stolen from a F1 bike  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 07, 2021, 03:23:10 pm
Final results from Saturday, Day 1 testing:
Why are certain names in red including Brad?

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 08, 2021, 11:43:18 am
Final results from Saturday, Day 1 testing:
Why are certain names in red including Brad?

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I don't know and I haven't been able to figure it out.  It doesn't say in the key to the table either. 

Sunday testing final times:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 08, 2021, 12:04:58 pm
I heard Brad had 2 falls, as had a number of others.

I guess finding the limit is partly what testing is for.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 08, 2021, 12:16:04 pm
I read that a lot of riders went down in turn 2 as the temp was dropping.

KTM were testing and working on their holeshot device which will now be working on the front suspension as well as the rear and were no that concerned with putting in fast laps.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 08, 2021, 12:31:06 pm
I heard Brad had 2 falls, as had a number of others.

I guess finding the limit is partly what testing is for.

He crashed once on Day 1 and twice on Day 2.  Hopefully he does all his crashing during testing.  It is difficult to draw conclusions from such early testing though, as we don't know what exactly which bike was testing.

Like Blockhead said, they were testing a new holeshot device and tere is a good chance that some of the bikes were testing their new engine.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 08, 2021, 05:18:26 pm
Fabio Quartararo days to first race!

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 10, 2021, 02:22:49 pm
For the next two days of testing at Qatar, Cal Crutchlow's bike will wear this special livery as Yamaha commemorate 60 years of motorcycle racing.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 10, 2021, 02:26:13 pm
That looks nice.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 10, 2021, 02:27:38 pm
Crashlow just needs a white stick to go with the ensemble  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 10, 2021, 02:31:00 pm
so I see MM93 is signed up to race in Qatar. Lets see how he does.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 10, 2021, 02:35:03 pm
Crashlow just needs a white stick to go with the ensemble  :imaposer:

 :imaposer: Sounds like you have been hanging out with Jorge to long. At least he has one friend
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BullSmit on March 10, 2021, 03:19:24 pm
For the next two days of testing at Qatar, Cal Crutchlow's bike will wear this special livery as Yamaha commemorate 60 years of motorcycle racing.

Maybe I am just old school, but these simpler colours look way better to me....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 10, 2021, 03:22:54 pm
For the next two days of testing at Qatar, Cal Crutchlow's bike will wear this special livery as Yamaha commemorate 60 years of motorcycle racing.

Maybe I am just old school, but these simpler colours look way better to me....

Totally agree.
The different manufacturers also had more distinguishable identities because of it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 10, 2021, 03:35:39 pm
For the next two days of testing at Qatar, Cal Crutchlow's bike will wear this special livery as Yamaha commemorate 60 years of motorcycle racing.

Maybe I am just old school, but these simpler colours look way better to me....

Totally agree.
The different manufacturers also had more distinguishable identities because of it.

It is the thing with race bikes these days.  When I was a race bike scrutineer we often commented on the fact that we could not distinguish a Yamaha from a Kawasaki or Honda in Parc Ferme, unless we read the name on the side covers of the gearbox.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 10, 2021, 03:38:21 pm
The KTM's are the only one's that stand out in their brand colours at the moment. Especially the Tech3 team.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 10, 2021, 05:28:59 pm
so I see MM93 is signed up to race in Qatar. Lets see how he does.

Sounds like you believe your one friend.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 10, 2021, 07:38:09 pm
Cal's speedblock Yamaha is just so beautiful....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 10, 2021, 08:13:37 pm
so I see MM93 is signed up to race in Qatar. Lets see how he does.

I believe he is on a provisional entry list, whatever the heck that is.

Pol is doing very well on the Honda during testing.  He may well be a force to be reckoned with as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on March 10, 2021, 08:17:45 pm
so I see MM93 is signed up to race in Qatar. Lets see how he does.

I believe he is on a provisional entry list, whatever the heck that is.

Pol is doing very well on the Honda during testing.  He may well be a force to be reckoned with as well.

Correct, does not mean he will race though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 10, 2021, 08:54:46 pm
Official testing from Qatar 10 March.

Highest top speed record so far.  Johann Zarco at 352,9 km/h. 

Some Ducatis were seen with a strange shape of tunnel inside the lower fairing.  It is guessed that it is some form of ground effect similar to F1 cars, but which will provide down force in the right direction when the bike is cranked over in a corner.  Could it be?  I don't know, but I do know Gigi at Ducati is a clever bugger and he regularly comes up with some very interesting firsts, all within the rules.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 10, 2021, 08:58:48 pm
The more I look at this Yamaha the prettier she gets.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210310/fe55acb544abbe311d7bb30c060f695a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210310/c9e1589b78d421089a11cda231921644.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210310/383bfb6f33719c22049aa51875f8e6fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210310/6e81b244f6ae08956ab4a316f0be193c.jpg)

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 10, 2021, 09:55:01 pm
Very, very pretty......

If I remember correctly, the red speedblocks on white background is the colours of Yamaha Europe, while the USA had the black blocks on yellow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 11, 2021, 09:01:42 am

Pol is doing very well on the Honda during testing.  He may well be a force to be reckoned with as well.

Agree with this. Makes it exciting.

I also hope the Duke is a better balanced package and performs well on more tracks, then we are in for some cool Miller podium interviews.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2021, 10:08:37 am
Very, very pretty......

If I remember correctly, the red speedblocks on white background is the colours of Yamaha Europe, while the USA had the black blocks on yellow.

I loved the yellow and black Yamahas.  This red and white was apparently the colour of the first Yamaha, 60 years ago, to race on the world stage.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2021, 10:10:53 am
Some old fart on a Yamaha days to the first race of 2021.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 11, 2021, 07:44:51 pm
 :laughing4:

Sting, on a bike, being pushed by princess Harry.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2021, 09:31:27 am
Holy moly!  Johann Zarco, on a beautiful red Ducati (which may, or may not remind some unnamed person of Lady Diana's red headed sister) did 357,67km/h yesterday.  That would certainly classify as rather rapid.
Yamahas seem hot, sort of like testing during the past few seasons.  I hope they keep on performing during the racing season as well.
Looks like Espargaro, P likes the Repsol Honda, but the Hondas are crashing more than any other bike.  Could this be an issue later in the season, or is it just bad luck.
Espargaro, A is doing surprisingly well on the all new Aprilia.
KTM struggling with BB33 best KTM in 16th place.  Maybe they are testing their slow riding handling?   :'(

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 12, 2021, 09:35:48 am
I figured out what the names in red were for while on crash.net this morning. If you click on them they open a link into a bio about the rider. So you can see their progression from their start of their career to moto GP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 13, 2021, 10:18:39 am
Final day of testing saw an huge sandstorm screwing it up and very few riders went on track.  In fact, only 5 did.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 13, 2021, 10:27:11 am
Combined times for all the testing from the past three days.  Nothing new compared to previous seasons. 

Yamaha doing great with three bikes in top 5 and all four bikes in top 11 with VR46 the slowest Yamaha.
Suzuki nicely middle of the pack.
Ducati fastest, middle of the pack and almost slowest.
KTM struggling with 16th their best effort.
One Aprilia looking good, one not so much.
Honda looking okay, but it must be a worry that the Honda rookie, Pol Espargaro is easily fastest of the lot.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on March 13, 2021, 02:44:21 pm
Yeah Bahrain also had a huge sandstorm where the F1 guys are testing. Maybe the same one that just blew over.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 14, 2021, 07:58:18 pm
Yeah Bahrain also had a huge sandstorm where the F1 guys are testing. Maybe the same one that just blew over.

Perhaps it's those Hondas in the sandtraps again.......... :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on March 14, 2021, 08:23:12 pm
I would love to see an engineering discussion on how chassis design affects turning in GP bikes. Not just the concept but an uber deep dive nerding out on the various designers and how they integrate their thinking into both the machine, but I presume, they also have some regard for the type of rider and their styles too.

But, like most things in that world, I suppose that's locked up behind some pretty epic non-disclosure contracts and serious professional competitiveness.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 14, 2021, 10:04:38 pm
I would love to see an engineering discussion on how chassis design affects turning in GP bikes. Not just the concept but an uber deep dive nerding out on the various designers and how they integrate their thinking into both the machine, but I presume, they also have some regard for the type of rider and their styles too.

But, like most things in that world, I suppose that's locked up behind some pretty epic non-disclosure contracts and serious professional competitiveness.

I think the basics is pretty straight forward and a few minutes on Google, or even with a club level racer will explain that.  It is once you measure success in 0,001s that it becomes a very complicated issue hidden behind some serious NDAs.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on March 14, 2021, 10:34:59 pm
I would love to see an engineering discussion on how chassis design affects turning in GP bikes. Not just the concept but an uber deep dive nerding out on the various designers and how they integrate their thinking into both the machine, but I presume, they also have some regard for the type of rider and their styles too.

But, like most things in that world, I suppose that's locked up behind some pretty epic non-disclosure contracts and serious professional competitiveness.

I think the basics is pretty straight forward and a few minutes on Google, or even with a club level racer will explain that.  It is once you measure success in 0,001s that it becomes a very complicated issue hidden behind some serious NDAs.

See that's the thing, google and YouTube parrot the same stuff; Stiffness in the vertical when out of the corner and under braking to give the suspension something solid to work from, but flexibility laterally when laid over to aid the tyre in absorbing bumps in the corners. I get it. But there's' no one who goes into the weeds about the finer details of design.

So, for example graphic plots of frame twist/flex at the same points per GP bike would be fun.... and never going to happen.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 14, 2021, 11:14:00 pm
I would love to see an engineering discussion on how chassis design affects turning in GP bikes. Not just the concept but an uber deep dive nerding out on the various designers and how they integrate their thinking into both the machine, but I presume, they also have some regard for the type of rider and their styles too.

But, like most things in that world, I suppose that's locked up behind some pretty epic non-disclosure contracts and serious professional competitiveness.

I think the basics is pretty straight forward and a few minutes on Google, or even with a club level racer will explain that.  It is once you measure success in 0,001s that it becomes a very complicated issue hidden behind some serious NDAs.

See that's the thing, google and YouTube parrot the same stuff; Stiffness in the vertical when out of the corner and under braking to give the suspension something solid to work from, but flexibility laterally when laid over to aid the tyre in absorbing bumps in the corners. I get it. But there's' no one who goes into the weeds about the finer details of design.

So, for example graphic plots of frame twist/flex at the same points per GP bike would be fun.... and never going to happen.

Yeah, it won't happen.  Not the finer detail, or at least not till some of these parts make it onto superbikes sold into the market.  Of course, while this happens, it is always some years behind where MotoGP is.

I also think most of the secrets these days are in the software and fine tuning of the software and of course certain hardware components.  If we take some of the hardware, like the suspensions.  All, bar the KTMs use Ohlins.  Brakes.  They all use Brembo with prescribed disc and caliper sizes.  So, if they all have the same suspensions and brakes, it stands to reason that how they fine tune that makes the difference.  The software sounds like a dark science though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 15, 2021, 11:28:24 am
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 15, 2021, 11:53:54 am
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 15, 2021, 12:03:26 pm
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.

Yes they are working with ground effect aerodynamics. Innovators as always. I must say Jack looks like a cat that found the cream.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 15, 2021, 12:30:04 pm
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.

Yes they are working with ground effect aerodynamics. Innovators as always. I must say Jack looks like a cat that found the cream.

Well, if I was Jack I would have a smile all the way around my head.  My ears would not even stop the smile.  It seems that they have that particular Ducati dialed in to be unbeatable.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 15, 2021, 12:35:44 pm
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.

Yes they are working with ground effect aerodynamics. Innovators as always. I must say Jack looks like a cat that found the cream.

Well, if I was Jack I would have a smile all the way around my head.  My ears would not even stop the smile.  It seems that they have that particular Ducati dialed in to be unbeatable.

On that track....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 15, 2021, 06:10:48 pm
35 in action....maybe an R1 coming out in a scheme like this

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on March 15, 2021, 07:30:21 pm
Celestino Vietti days to go..... :thumleft:




Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 15, 2021, 08:26:01 pm
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.

Yes they are working with ground effect aerodynamics. Innovators as always. I must say Jack looks like a cat that found the cream.

The way a motorcycle goes through turns, cranked over, will prevent the use of F1 type ground force designs, as that will have the same effect as adding weight in a corner, which slows corner speed.

The higher the topspeed attained, the harder or earlier you have to brake. the harder you brake, the more forces are fed into the chassis, and as we all know, bikes need to do 99% of hard braking BEFORE

they start turning.

I have always said that part of Ducati's "handling" problems is the top speeds they are being praised for. :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 15, 2021, 09:29:29 pm
Maybe ................ :thumleft:

That would explain why the slow Suzuki is the World Champion.

And that could explain why the previous year's Yamaha is always better than the current year's - it's too fast!!

Even though it's slower than the Ducati, the Honda, the KTM, the Aprilia, the Kawasaki, the BMW, the Loncin, etc ................... it's still too fast for itself
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 16, 2021, 11:10:13 am
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.

Yes they are working with ground effect aerodynamics. Innovators as always. I must say Jack looks like a cat that found the cream.

Well, if I was Jack I would have a smile all the way around my head.  My ears would not even stop the smile.  It seems that they have that particular Ducati dialed in to be unbeatable.

On that track....

Indeed ....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 16, 2021, 11:12:06 am
Celestino Vietti days to go..... :thumleft:

Nice one, but I had this Ida Zetterstrom chick in mind.   :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 16, 2021, 11:20:48 am
And interesting that the Ducati's have had laser sensors in place during practice measuring telemetry for all sorts of frame and aero inputs and tweaks. We know they have eye watering top speeds but have been working hard at the turn in and carrying corner speeds.

They are working very hard at cornering ability and I will not be surprised if sometime during the season, we hear some grumbling, possibly even a protest or two, about those strange looking tunnels inside their lowering fairings.  I have read that an F1 aerodynamic expert believes it is to work like winglets, while the bike is cranked over.  Personally, I cannot wait to see if this is true and if so, does it work.  Of course, if it works, dear old Uncle Gigi, once again, left the competition one step behind.

Yes they are working with ground effect aerodynamics. Innovators as always. I must say Jack looks like a cat that found the cream.

The way a motorcycle goes through turns, cranked over, will prevent the use of F1 type ground force designs, as that will have the same effect as adding weight in a corner, which slows corner speed.

The higher the topspeed attained, the harder or earlier you have to brake. the harder you brake, the more forces are fed into the chassis, and as we all know, bikes need to do 99% of hard braking BEFORE

they start turning.

I have always said that part of Ducati's "handling" problems is the top speeds they are being praised for. :snorting:

While I tend to want to agree with you, I can't as I have to accept that the guys building those bikes, developing them and riding them would probably know more than you or I would. 

Then Max Oxley in his recent column tells two interesting stories. 

One is that well know F1 designer, John Barnard 10 years ago, was already wondering whether some method could be found to make ground effects on MotoGP bikes work.

The other one was that he interviewed team Roberts top notch techies, Mike Sinclair and Warren Willing in the 1990s.  He asked them if traction control would ever be seen on MotoGP bikes, similar those found in F1.  Both categorically stated that this would be impossible since bikes were too complex.


Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 16, 2021, 01:06:38 pm
Ducati know what they are playing with - and yes it is ground effect aerodynamics with a focus on cornering. And yes because arriving in the corners rather hotter than most all others has its own challenges ... as well as chassis DNA that knows this long time 🙃
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 16, 2021, 07:11:33 pm
I would be interested to see how anyone is going to transfer "downforce into a bike's tyres, leaned over at say, 45degrees. There is no way, the way I see it, to transfer "downforce" through tyres into tarmac

while keeping that "downforce'  perpendicular to the tarmac. Anything else will add to outward force, and make the tyre lose grip.

Note; I am not saying Ducati's engineers are not brilliant, just that this one is sticky on a bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 16, 2021, 07:45:05 pm
Perhaps different airflow in corners can adjust the downforce to either the back or front wheel?

If TC keeps the back wheel in check, then adding downforce to the front wheel should help.

Or, perhaps playing with corner airflow gives you more speed at same lean angle, essentially meaning that you can travel at the same speed as everyone else but at less lean angle.

Good for tyres, which equals good tyres for longer, which equals a race win.

2c from me ....................... but, really worth a lot more .................... people normally get shot for giving out this info ....................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 17, 2021, 10:06:21 am
I would be interested to see how anyone is going to transfer "downforce into a bike's tyres, leaned over at say, 45degrees. There is no way, the way I see it, to transfer "downforce" through tyres into tarmac

while keeping that "downforce'  perpendicular to the tarmac. Anything else will add to outward force, and make the tyre lose grip.

Note; I am not saying Ducati's engineers are not brilliant, just that this one is sticky on a bike.

I agree and definately am not clever enough for this.
But if you harness the airflow in a corner and apply that pressure to a lever, it "just" depends where that lever is anchored to transfer said pressure and create a desired effect.

Or not... O0

Plus, what would the effect then be in a straight line.... :lamer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 17, 2021, 01:00:35 pm
I would be interested to see how anyone is going to transfer "downforce into a bike's tyres, leaned over at say, 45degrees. There is no way, the way I see it, to transfer "downforce" through tyres into tarmac

while keeping that "downforce'  perpendicular to the tarmac. Anything else will add to outward force, and make the tyre lose grip.

Note; I am not saying Ducati's engineers are not brilliant, just that this one is sticky on a bike.

I agree and definately am not clever enough for this.
But if you harness the airflow in a corner and apply that pressure to a lever, it "just" depends where that lever is anchored to transfer said pressure and create a desired effect.

Or not... O0

Plus, what would the effect then be in a straight line.... :lamer:

One would have to have the ability of onboard control of the ducting/wings.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 17, 2021, 01:00:39 pm
I would be interested to see how anyone is going to transfer "downforce into a bike's tyres, leaned over at say, 45degrees. There is no way, the way I see it, to transfer "downforce" through tyres into tarmac

while keeping that "downforce'  perpendicular to the tarmac. Anything else will add to outward force, and make the tyre lose grip.

Note; I am not saying Ducati's engineers are not brilliant, just that this one is sticky on a bike.

I fully agree that this sounds impossible.  I had no doubt that it cannot possibly be done.  Then, I saw those strange looking " tunnels" in the bottom part of the Ducati fairing and a bit of doubt crept in.  Now I am seriously wondering and if they do succeed, I would not be surprised.  Luckily, we will soon see.

Over the years, there has been a long list of " that is impossible"  issues that we saw become possible as the seasons went by.  It would be amazing to see yet another one ticked of as " possible actually".

I managed to fond the article again.  See link below.  Very clever aerodynamic engineers seems to believe it possible and already happening at Ducati since 2019.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/is-ducati-using-ground-effect-for-more-grip-in-motogp
 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 17, 2021, 01:11:25 pm
I would be interested to see how anyone is going to transfer "downforce into a bike's tyres, leaned over at say, 45degrees. There is no way, the way I see it, to transfer "downforce" through tyres into tarmac

while keeping that "downforce'  perpendicular to the tarmac. Anything else will add to outward force, and make the tyre lose grip.

Note; I am not saying Ducati's engineers are not brilliant, just that this one is sticky on a bike.

I fully agree that this sounds impossible.  I had no doubt that it cannot possibly be done.  Then, I saw those strange looking " tunnels" in the bottom part of the Ducati fairing and a bit of doubt crept in.  Now I am seriously wondering and if they do succeed, I would not be surprised.  Luckily, we will soon see.

Over the years, there has been a long list of " that is impossible"  issues that we saw become possible as the seasons went by.  It would be amazing to see yet another one ticked of as " possible actually".

I managed to fond the article again.  See link below.  Very clever aerodynamic engineers seems to believe it possible and already happening at Ducati since 2019.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/is-ducati-using-ground-effect-for-more-grip-in-motogp
 

I have never before seen anything on a car or motorcycle as "impossible", even this, just very hard to understand how they'll make it work.

Some of these things are psychological acting to work on other teams' self confidence. :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 17, 2021, 01:38:22 pm
I would be interested to see how anyone is going to transfer "downforce into a bike's tyres, leaned over at say, 45degrees. There is no way, the way I see it, to transfer "downforce" through tyres into tarmac

while keeping that "downforce'  perpendicular to the tarmac. Anything else will add to outward force, and make the tyre lose grip.

Note; I am not saying Ducati's engineers are not brilliant, just that this one is sticky on a bike.

I fully agree that this sounds impossible.  I had no doubt that it cannot possibly be done.  Then, I saw those strange looking " tunnels" in the bottom part of the Ducati fairing and a bit of doubt crept in.  Now I am seriously wondering and if they do succeed, I would not be surprised.  Luckily, we will soon see.

Over the years, there has been a long list of " that is impossible"  issues that we saw become possible as the seasons went by.  It would be amazing to see yet another one ticked of as " possible actually".

I managed to fond the article again.  See link below.  Very clever aerodynamic engineers seems to believe it possible and already happening at Ducati since 2019.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/is-ducati-using-ground-effect-for-more-grip-in-motogp
 

I have never before seen anything on a car or motorcycle as "impossible", even this, just very hard to understand how they'll make it work.

Some of these things are psychological acting to work on other teams' self confidence. :deal:

Well, of course.  If I can convince Rossi to go .5sec a lap faster because he patted his dog twice and it works, why not?  The chang emay be in the mind, as long as the results are real.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 17, 2021, 02:15:32 pm
MM93 on a Honda RC213V-S yesterday on the Barcelona track.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 17, 2021, 03:18:18 pm
MM93 on a Honda RC213V-S yesterday on the Barcelona track.


Champ is back
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 17, 2021, 04:25:55 pm
In a big way  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 17, 2021, 05:44:05 pm
MM93 on a Honda RC213V-S yesterday on the Barcelona track.


Champ is back

Mir was never gone.   :lol8:

MM93, not yet.  Testing his shoulder a long way from where the first MGP will be.  Perhaps once they return to start the European circuit.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 18, 2021, 11:56:44 am
Luca Marini days to first race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: punisher on March 18, 2021, 12:37:35 pm
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: mox on March 18, 2021, 12:46:00 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 18, 2021, 02:32:35 pm
MM93 on a Honda RC213V-S yesterday on the Barcelona track.


Champ is back

Mir was never gone.   :lol8:

MM93, not yet.  Testing his shoulder a long way from where the first MGP will be.  Perhaps once they return to start the European circuit.

The longer it takes the more we will see of the others!  This man like Rossi in the heydays is in a classof his own!  Hope he makes a full recovery!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 18, 2021, 06:57:44 pm
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer

The reason we see smaller fields in MotoGp is because of the exorbitant cost of developing fancy "aids'.

Of course, they say it pushes development of roadbikes, but then why stint development by using same tyres, same ECU's, etc?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 18, 2021, 07:38:52 pm
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer

The reason we see smaller fields in MotoGp is because of the exorbitant cost of developing fancy "aids'.

Of course, they say it pushes development of roadbikes, but then why stint development by using same tyres, same ECU's, etc?

We are not seeing smaller fields in any of the MotoGP classes.  Exactly the opposite. As little as 8 or so years ago, they had to bring in the Claim Rules Teams (CRT) in MotoGP to get the grid to be over 16 bikes.

M3 and M2 have no space on the grid and a few years ago, they actually had to trim the Moto2 field. 

MotoGP have 24 grid spots of which 22 are occupied.  This is why, if VR46 wants to field a team next year and Suzuki wants to bring in a satellite team and VR46 does not use Suzukis, one of them will have to buy an existing team like Avintia.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 18, 2021, 10:23:19 pm
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer

all these fancy 'aids' are gonna be needed if they wanna beat MM
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 19, 2021, 10:09:20 am
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer

all these fancy 'aids' are gonna be needed if they wanna beat MM

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

MM93 trolling this early in the season?   :o

Thing is, at present it is absolutely impossible for any of them to beat MM93, just like it is impossible for them to beat you, or me  since none of us are actually in the race to be beaten.   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 19, 2021, 10:42:45 am
Petrux days to first race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 19, 2021, 10:45:15 am
Obviously not on that bike next weekend.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 19, 2021, 10:50:19 am
Obviously not on that bike next weekend.

What do you mean?   :peepwall: ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 19, 2021, 09:47:45 pm
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer

all these fancy 'aids' are gonna be needed if they wanna beat MM

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

MM93 trolling this early in the season?   :o

Thing is, at present it is absolutely impossible for any of them to beat MM93, just like it is impossible for them to beat you, or me  since none of us are actually in the race to be beaten.   >:D

'At present' is the only time they CAN beat him.................................. the past and the future is his ............................  :biggrin:

Not that I know him but I don't really like him (yet) ........................... but, he is the benchmark ..................... they gonna need more than a 'ground effect' to beat him.

A big stick is probably the only thing that'll work.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: drewdza on March 20, 2021, 04:56:12 am
Is there a WD Superbru pool for MotoGP this year?🤔
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 20, 2021, 07:29:59 am
Divebomb Darryn fastest after yesterdays practice with his team mate John McFee 2nd.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 20, 2021, 08:27:09 am
all these fancy 'aids"  , they should just go back to basics ............  solid rubber tires , no suspension ..................  like some wild dogs would prefer

all these fancy 'aids' are gonna be needed if they wanna beat MM

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

MM93 trolling this early in the season?   :o

Thing is, at present it is absolutely impossible for any of them to beat MM93, just like it is impossible for them to beat you, or me  since none of us are actually in the race to be beaten.   >:D

'At present' is the only time they CAN beat him.................................. the past and the future is his ............................  :biggrin:

Not that I know him but I don't really like him (yet) ........................... but, he is the benchmark ..................... they gonna need more than a 'ground effect' to beat him.

A big stick is probably the only thing that'll work.

He unfortunately carries his own big stick that he likes to use on himself. Crashes too often, loses front ends too often.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 20, 2021, 11:15:36 am
Is there a WD Superbru pool for MotoGP this year?🤔

Join Wilddogs, my MotoGP league on @Superbru! You can find my pool here:

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 20, 2021, 11:20:09 am
MM93 spend a day on Portimao riding.  The rumour suggests it is to see if he should enter the first race at Qatar next weekend.

Divebomb Darryn fastest after yesterdays practice with his team mate John McFee 2nd.

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Excellent start.  Yes, first testing isn't much of an indicator, but fastest during first test is a heck of a lot better than slowest during first test.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 20, 2021, 10:37:32 pm
2nd day of testing and young Darryn Binder finished 13th fastest.  Team mate McPhee was fastest.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 21, 2021, 08:12:04 am
2nd day of testing and young Darryn Binder finished 13th fastest.  Team mate McPhee was fastest.

Ja was wondering what he was up to having been fastest the day before? Maybe trying other set ups?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: drewdza on March 21, 2021, 01:04:20 pm
Is there a WD Superbru pool for MotoGP this year?🤔

Join Wilddogs, my MotoGP league on @Superbru! You can find my pool here:

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👍🏻 Pretty lonesome in the pool at the moment, maybe get the word out?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 21, 2021, 02:34:06 pm
Is there a WD Superbru pool for MotoGP this year?🤔

Join Wilddogs, my MotoGP league on @Superbru! You can find my pool here:

https://www.superbru.com/motogp/pool.php?p=12318313

or by downloading the Superbru app and searching for the pool with code:

discpurr

👍🏻 Pretty lonesome in the pool at the moment, maybe get the word out?

Hopefully many of the dogs will be on the forum come Tuesday and then they will join up.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 21, 2021, 02:35:32 pm
2nd day of testing and young Darryn Binder finished 13th fastest.  Team mate McPhee was fastest.

Ja was wondering what he was up to having been fastest the day before? Maybe trying other set ups?

That is the issue with testing.  We never really know what they were doing.  Perhaps yesterday they were both going for a single fast lap while this time round McPhee did the single fast lap thing while Darryn did a race simulation.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 21, 2021, 02:36:10 pm
Barry Sheene days to first race.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 21, 2021, 05:52:03 pm
Is there a WD Superbru pool for MotoGP this year?🤔

Join Wilddogs, my MotoGP league on @Superbru! You can find my pool here:

https://www.superbru.com/motogp/pool.php?p=12318313

or by downloading the Superbru app and searching for the pool with code:

discpurr

👍🏻 Pretty lonesome in the pool at the moment, maybe get the word out?

Hopefully many of the dogs will be on the forum come Tuesday and then they will join up.

Ok, just joined ....................... first time, so will figure out what to do as the week goes on ........................  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 21, 2021, 07:15:13 pm
Barry Sheene days to first race.

 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 22, 2021, 12:28:07 pm
Darryn Binder 10th fastest on third day of testing and Mr. Agostini days to the first race for 2021.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 23, 2021, 07:18:00 am
Zarco Days (past)  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 23, 2021, 09:08:47 am
Confirmed MM93 will not be racing during the first race at Qatar. 

Fun fact.  8 of the riders on the MotoGP grid on Sunday was born after VR46 made his debut in 125GP (Moto3).



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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on March 23, 2021, 10:53:50 am
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 23, 2021, 10:57:29 am
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

They may go for the "limited run" homologation route superbike wise, which would make those bikes very sought after, possibly. Superbike market seem depressed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 23, 2021, 11:41:59 am
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

They may go for the "limited run" homologation route superbike wise, which would make those bikes very sought after, possibly. Superbike market seem depressed.

Plus they need their own "practise" bikes like that S from Honda.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on March 23, 2021, 12:11:13 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

They may go for the "limited run" homologation route superbike wise, which would make those bikes very sought after, possibly. Superbike market seem depressed.

...or similar to their Dakar bikes, make cutomer gp spec bikes
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 23, 2021, 12:17:10 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

They may go for the "limited run" homologation route superbike wise, which would make those bikes very sought after, possibly. Superbike market seem depressed.

...or similar to their Dakar bikes, make cutomer gp spec bikes

Yes, an RC8 RR. :eek7:

I'll start saving up..........so I can buy a poster of one from KTM.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 23, 2021, 01:48:03 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

While times change and with it strategy, KTM have indicated in the past that they have no wish to build another superbike.  Their previous attempt at it was not a great success and while never racing in superbikes, they got their arses kicked every which way in the superstock class.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 23, 2021, 02:00:52 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

While times change and with it strategy, KTM have indicated in the past that they have no wish to build another superbike.  Their previous attempt at it was not a great success and while never racing in superbikes, they got their arses kicked every which way in the superstock class.

That only means that they have a lot to prove there? But I agree that KTM will not race SBK, in fact, I am surprised that they are even in MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 23, 2021, 02:37:09 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

While times change and with it strategy, KTM have indicated in the past that they have no wish to build another superbike.  Their previous attempt at it was not a great success and while never racing in superbikes, they got their arses kicked every which way in the superstock class.

That only means that they have a lot to prove there? But I agree that KTM will not race SBK, in fact, I am surprised that they are even in MotoGP.

Ja.  I can't see them attempt WSBK again.  Not while the are in MotoGP anyway.  They quickly realized supplying all the Rookies Cup bikes, almost half the Moto3 bike for world championship, junior world championship, Spanish and Italian championship, with 4 bikes in Moto2 and 4 in MotoGP is a huge bite to manage.  They already withdrew from Moto2 to concentrate on MotoGP.  They would be silly to take a bite out of WSBK now.  Also, as you said, the superbike market is pretty flat these days.  The bikes you hate so much, big duellies, is what is selling.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on March 23, 2021, 02:43:57 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

While times change and with it strategy, KTM have indicated in the past that they have no wish to build another superbike.  Their previous attempt at it was not a great success and while never racing in superbikes, they got their arses kicked every which way in the superstock class.

That only means that they have a lot to prove there? But I agree that KTM will not race SBK, in fact, I am surprised that they are even in MotoGP.

Ja.  I can't see them attempt WSBK again.  Not while the are in MotoGP anyway.  They quickly realized supplying all the Rookies Cup bikes, almost half the Moto3 bike for world championship, junior world championship, Spanish and Italian championship, with 4 bikes in Moto2 and 4 in MotoGP is a huge bite to manage.  They already withdrew from Moto2 to concentrate on MotoGP.  They would be silly to take a bite out of WSBK now.  Also, as you said, the superbike market is pretty flat these days.  The bikes you hate so much, big duellies, is what is selling.
Perhaps it's time for a world adventure bike championship...

Oh wait, we already have the GS Trophy. And BMW wins every time! ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 23, 2021, 02:55:18 pm
So KTM have signed for another 5 years with MotoGP... I wonder when we'll see a superbike from them, and if that will lead them into WSBK...

While times change and with it strategy, KTM have indicated in the past that they have no wish to build another superbike.  Their previous attempt at it was not a great success and while never racing in superbikes, they got their arses kicked every which way in the superstock class.

That only means that they have a lot to prove there? But I agree that KTM will not race SBK, in fact, I am surprised that they are even in MotoGP.

Ja.  I can't see them attempt WSBK again.  Not while the are in MotoGP anyway.  They quickly realized supplying all the Rookies Cup bikes, almost half the Moto3 bike for world championship, junior world championship, Spanish and Italian championship, with 4 bikes in Moto2 and 4 in MotoGP is a huge bite to manage.  They already withdrew from Moto2 to concentrate on MotoGP.  They would be silly to take a bite out of WSBK now.  Also, as you said, the superbike market is pretty flat these days.  The bikes you hate so much, big duellies, is what is selling.
Perhaps it's time for a world adventure bike championship...

Oh wait, we already have the GS Trophy. And BMW wins every time! ;)

NOOOO!!!

Uhm Danie!  No.  He did not mention BMW.  It is your screen, I promise.  Njannies!  No really.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 23, 2021, 03:47:05 pm
Confirmed MM93 will not be racing during the first race at Qatar. 

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I see on MM's socials he is out for both Qatar rounds.

That's a 50 point championship knock.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 23, 2021, 06:58:49 pm
MM is just scared to face the DOCTOR.......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 24, 2021, 09:39:11 am
MM is just scared to face the DOCTOR.......

He's probably sick of Doctors by now....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2021, 10:14:46 am
Confirmed MM93 will not be racing during the first race at Qatar. 

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I see on MM's socials he is out for both Qatar rounds.

That's a 50 point championship knock.

He just spend two days on a RC213V-S on two race tracks to see if he was ready.  He clearly believes he wasn't, so a proper decision. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2021, 10:16:31 am
Dovi days to first race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 24, 2021, 10:39:11 am
Dovi days to first race.
Is he riding Ducati again ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2021, 10:42:38 am
Dovi days to first race.
Is he riding Ducati again ?

No.  He is not riding at all this season.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 24, 2021, 10:48:48 am
Dovi days to first race.
Is he riding Ducati again ?

No.  He is not riding at all this season.

Well, have the Aprilia thing been finalised?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2021, 10:54:52 am
Dovi days to first race.
Is he riding Ducati again ?

No.  He is not riding at all this season.

Well, have the Aprilia thing been finalised?

He was not going to ride the Aprilia this season.  He is scheduled for a single test 12 - 14 April this year.  If he likes the bike and Aprilia likes how he rides it, there may well be a contract from next year onward.  I suppose there could be one immediately, but then Aprilia would have to break contract with one of their contracted for 2021 factory riders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2021, 11:27:10 am
MM is just scared to face the DOCTOR.......

 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 24, 2021, 12:05:47 pm
Dovi days to first race.
Is he riding Ducati again ?

No.  He is not riding at all this season.

Well, have the Aprilia thing been finalised?

He was not going to ride the Aprilia this season.  He is scheduled for a single test 12 - 14 April this year.  If he likes the bike and Aprilia likes how he rides it, there may well be a contract from next year onward.  I suppose there could be one immediately, but then Aprilia would have to break contract with one of their contracted for 2021 factory riders.

Yeah, they also mentioned the vacant test rider spot.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 24, 2021, 12:07:31 pm
The Doctor should finish his career on Aprilia, that would be apt
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 25, 2021, 07:03:16 am
Dunlop Days (I know not MotoGP but Legend ... and I think we also need some Dunlop rubber on the Qatar track).
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 25, 2021, 09:11:47 am
 >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2021, 04:11:18 pm
>:D

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2021, 04:25:50 pm
Only 5 WDs going to play?

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 25, 2021, 04:26:48 pm
>:D

Rossi being Rossi, probably dreams about winning 20 titles........

Rossi is Italian, you see, they build Lamborghini, Maserati and Ferarri.

The Spaniards?  They assemble Seats, if I remember correctly. O0
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2021, 04:31:16 pm
>:D

Rossi being Rossi, probably dreams about winning 20 titles........

Rossi is Italian, you see, they build Lamborghini, Maserati and Ferarri.

The Spaniards?  They assemble Seats, if I remember correctly. O0

You should keep in mind that at one time the Spaniards were pretty good at building firearms.  Use it .....don't use it ....










Ag what the heck?  That was a very long time ago.  Doen met die Spanjaarde wat jy met die Sjinese wil doen.  Even the Seats were VW parts sorted into an assembled car form.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2021, 10:07:45 pm
Some old fart fooling around days to first race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 26, 2021, 08:56:30 am
Only 5 WDs going to play?

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I have already got my predictions in. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 26, 2021, 11:22:53 am
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I have already got my predictions in. :thumleft:

I will wait to the last minute.  Calculate FP1, FP2, FP3 and FP4 times to the nth degree.  Read feedback from riders.  Sniff the air coming from that direction and consult with the spirit of Nostrudamus as well as the local sangoma before making my prediction and get it wrong anyway.   :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: punisher on March 26, 2021, 11:43:56 am
and it still doesnt appear o n my DSTV , SO i can record it  ....... pffffft
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: adamktm on March 26, 2021, 11:57:05 am
On Channel 210 on Sunday. Quali on 206 on Saturday.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 26, 2021, 01:33:29 pm
DB40 2nd in FP1.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 26, 2021, 03:13:47 pm
Excellent run by DB40!   :thumleft:

BB33 in FP1 = 16th.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 26, 2021, 07:01:56 pm
Ok, picks done.

I have never won a thing in my life, I only compete to give others someone to beat. 

Therefore, if like me, you have chosen Jack Miller to win anything, I'm afraid you have chosen the wrong horse ......................  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 27, 2021, 09:16:41 am
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

I also have Jack Miller for the win.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 27, 2021, 11:00:36 am
Doohan Days To Go  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 27, 2021, 11:34:31 am
Doohan who?   ;)

Yellow and Black bike day to first race.  *drrrrroooooooooooooolll*

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 27, 2021, 11:38:47 am
Free Practise 2 results. 

Sjoe!  The KTMs are struggling.  BBB33 best KTM in 16th spot.  Disappointing for sure.  Whatever is causing their woes, I hope they get it sorted.

Those Ducatis seems on a roll.  Top speed second to none and it seems they are turning.  When Jack Miller was asked which fairing he would use for the race, he said that it would definitely be the new one.  Asked why, what difference it makes, he said in typical Jackass style: "nah, it just looks cool" .

The all new Aprilia seems to be on song as well.  Maybe Espargaro, A will have a reason to smile this season.  That is, if after a few seasons with Aprilia, he still remembers how to smile.  After seeing the Aprilia during FP1 and FP2, I bet there are a few Moto2 riders who declined offers to ride that Aprilia this year, pulling some rather large handfuls of hair from their heads.

All four Yamahas in top 10.  Is this good, or just like we have seen the past few seasons.  On song during FPs, then in the race, not so much.  I saw Maverick doing practice starts every time he left the bits.

Hondas seem to be right there as well.  Not running away from the field, but not filling up the bottom of the time sheets.  It must be a tad worrying to them that they fell off the most during the 2 FP sessions.

The Suzukis are doing what they did last year.  Not the fastest, but pretty consistent in terms of banging in lap times almost identical lap after lap.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 27, 2021, 03:18:52 pm
DB40 was 6th in FP3, but misses out on a spot in Q2 by a single position.  He will have to fight in Q1 to, hopefully get a spot in Q2 otherwise he will again start middle of the pack.

BB33 was 19th in FP3 , so definitely in Q1 with, as it looks at present, little hope of making it into Q2.  The KTMs are still struggling with Brad the fastest of the four (16th on combined times).  Riders straight to Q2 are:

Morbidelli, Miller, Bagnaia, Quartararo, Zarco, Rins, Vinales, Rossi, Espargaro A, Espargaro, P.



Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on March 27, 2021, 04:22:42 pm
one more sleep.. cannot wait
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 27, 2021, 04:38:47 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 27, 2021, 04:47:10 pm
DB40 was 6th in FP3, but misses out on a spot in Q2 by a single position.  He will have to fight in Q1 to, hopefully get a spot in Q2 otherwise he will again start middle of the pack.

BB33 was 19th in FP3 , so definitely in Q1 with, as it looks at present, little hope of making it into Q2.  The KTMs are still struggling with Brad the fastest of the four (16th on combined times).  Riders straight to Q2 are:

Morbidelli, Miller, Bagnaia, Quartararo, Zarco, Rins, Vinales, Rossi, Espargaro A, Espargaro, P.

Brilliant ride by DB in Q1 Position 1!  So into Q2  :thumleft: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 27, 2021, 05:00:00 pm
Vark and he is flying properly in Q2  - blitzed it straight out the box.  POLE!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 27, 2021, 06:00:09 pm
And a new lap record. I was NOT expecting that. Goosebumps.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Biesie on March 27, 2021, 07:40:18 pm
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Ok lets see what happens
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Breekbeen on March 27, 2021, 07:43:19 pm
Ou man op die scooter.......

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 27, 2021, 10:10:31 pm
Wow!  DB40 really shone today.  Missed Q2 by one spot.  Made it into Q2 from Q1, then as already said, new lap record and pole.  Bliksem!  Nicely done.  His team mate also on front row in 3rd.  This Petronas team is not there to play silly buggers. Staring 1 and 3 in Moto3, 7 and 15 in Moto2 and 4 and 7 in MotoGP. 

How about the old dude?  4th on the grid and first (and this sounds incredibly wrong on so many levels) independent rider.  When he went into Parc Ferme I thought, what the heck VR, did you not see you were knocked out of third?  Then I realised he is there because he is first independent rider.  I am going to have to say that to my self often to get used to the idea.

What about that top speed set by Zarco?  362,4km/h!  Holy moly!

Hardly start of the season and already someone cost me on Superbru as I had Quartararo for pole.  Pecco Bagnaia you shit!   :snorting:

Some observations.  We have had the debate on whether the bikes should be limited in any way, many times and the jury is out on that.  Unfortunately there were no MotoGP race on Losail in Qatar in 2020.  Due to Covid an engine development freeze was put in place by Dorna.  This means that the engines used by factory spec bikes were locked in in March 2020 and no upgrades or changes made since.  The satellite riders not on factory bikes are basically using 2019 engines.  Even with the engine development freeze for a year, bikes are faster. 

Top Speed Record:
2019 Marc Marquez  Honda 252km/h
2021 Johann Zarco  Ducati 262,4km/h

Fastest pole lap:
2019 Maverick Vinales Yamaha 1'53,546
2021 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati 1'52,772

Lap Record:
2019 Marc Marquez Honda 1'53,380
2021 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati 1'52,772  (Warm-up and race still to come, but unlikely to be broken in either)

Fastest Race Lap:
2016 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'54,927
2021 ???

VR46, with his lap that placed him 4th on the grid is the fastest lap he ever did around Losail.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 28, 2021, 04:23:06 pm
Insane racing. Go 40

So the king gonna beat 93 again. Cos93 got a sore shoulder.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 28, 2021, 08:59:02 pm
When the gaggle of Duke's got that tremendous holeshot, I thought I shat my pants.

But it was proven again that a well handling machine will beat a dragster.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 28, 2021, 09:35:18 pm
When the gaggle of Duke's got that tremendous holeshot, I thought I shat my pants.

But it was proven again that a well handling machine will beat a dragster.

Yes, Except they unfortunately dragged Mir to the finish  :o  (Ok he did run a bit wide but wonder if he would have held it nevertheless?).
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 28, 2021, 10:09:06 pm
When the gaggle of Duke's got that tremendous holeshot, I thought I shat my pants.

But it was proven again that a well handling machine will beat a dragster.

Yes, Except they unfortunately dragged Mir to the finish  :o  (Ok he did run a bit wide but wonder if he would have held it nevertheless?).

Poor Mir!  I do think the Ducatis would have caught him still, or at least one of them, they were quite far ahead by the time they crossed the line.

I also missed the explanation on how and why the Ducati's were apparently negatively influenced by the headwind, more than the others?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Antonie on March 28, 2021, 10:26:44 pm
When the gaggle of Duke's got that tremendous holeshot, I thought I shat my pants.

But it was proven again that a well handling machine will beat a dragster.

Yes, Except they unfortunately dragged Mir to the finish  :o  (Ok he did run a bit wide but wonder if he would have held it nevertheless?).

Poor Mir!  I do think the Ducatis would have caught him still, or at least one of them, they were quite far ahead by the time they crossed the line.

I also missed the explanation on how and why the Ducati's were apparently negatively influenced by the headwind, more than the others?
Apparently it had to do with fuel and engine mapping, they cannot use the go-fast mode as it consumes too much fuel and the race mode does not have enough poeier to reach that crazy top speeds into the head wind.


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 29, 2021, 07:12:03 am
At one stage, we had 3 different brands running top 3 spots.
Cant wait for 93 to come join the party.
Also great to zee Zarco got some mojo back.
Joan Mir showing his usual cool calm consistency, he really did deserve a 2nd spot.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 29, 2021, 07:56:38 am
The Suzuki's looks like the best package again, yes the finish was disappointing but they seem to get better and better s the race goes on. Fastest down the main straight and qualifying lap immaterial
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 29, 2021, 08:35:06 am
Wonder if Remy Gardner will follow in his father's footsteps  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 29, 2021, 08:54:41 am
When the gaggle of Duke's got that tremendous holeshot, I thought I shat my pants.

But it was proven again that a well handling machine will beat a dragster.

Especially if said dragster cannot run at full power due to fuel consumption.

A race around a track will always hold more surprises than a straight line drag anyway.  With the technology where it is now, we also have to factor in, over and above the bike and the rider, the group of white coated nerds behind laptops hiding in the pits. 

Personally I have never even thought that a strong headwind would impact so much on fuel consumption.  It would of course, but I never thought about it.  Rob the Ducati of 15 or so km/h top end and it is their end. We learn every day. 

What happened to MV?  He is the Yamaha rider who is supposed to race backwards, not Quartararo.  MV was impressive. It has been a couple of seasons since we have seen him this sure of himself on the bike. 

Yamahas rather disappointing for me as I want them to be 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th (Disclaimer: Unless BB33 is first).  Morbidelli suffered a most interesting failure.  His holeshot device refused to release. Bummer.  VR and FQ tyre woes?

KTMs was never in it.  I hope they get them sorted before next weekend.

Suzukis look like they will have another year of attacking from behind like a badly bred Doberman.  Must be weird racing in front and thinking, " okay, I worry about the bike 0,00001s directly behind me and the two bikes in 15th and 18th". 

Aprilia seems a tad better than previous years, but not podium contention yet.

Hondas like the kitty litter.  Those fron t wheels go away very quickly.  That said, Pol didn't look at all bad.

Bunch of a-holes properly screwed up my Superbru!   >:(

If it wasn't for Mr. Darryn Binder, the divebomber himself, yesterdays racing would have had me volunteering to do the dishes.  Ours and the neighbours.  Not because it was boring.  It wasn't, but because all my favourites, excluding Zarco, were racing to be 15th.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Rough Rider on March 29, 2021, 09:13:59 am
 :sip:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on March 29, 2021, 09:18:31 am
Wow!  DB40 really shone today.  Missed Q2 by one spot.  Made it into Q2 from Q1, then as already said, new lap record and pole.  Bliksem!  Nicely done.  His team mate also on front row in 3rd.  This Petronas team is not there to play silly buggers. Staring 1 and 3 in Moto3, 7 and 15 in Moto2 and 4 and 7 in MotoGP. 

How about the old dude?  4th on the grid and first (and this sounds incredibly wrong on so many levels) independent rider.  When he went into Parc Ferme I thought, what the heck VR, did you not see you were knocked out of third?  Then I realised he is there because he is first independent rider.  I am going to have to say that to my self often to get used to the idea.

What about that top speed set by Zarco?  362,4km/h!  Holy moly!

Hardly start of the season and already someone cost me on Superbru as I had Quartararo for pole.  Pecco Bagnaia you shit!   :snorting:

Some observations.  We have had the debate on whether the bikes should be limited in any way, many times and the jury is out on that.  Unfortunately there were no MotoGP race on Losail in Qatar in 2020.  Due to Covid an engine development freeze was put in place by Dorna.  This means that the engines used by factory spec bikes were locked in in March 2020 and no upgrades or changes made since.  The satellite riders not on factory bikes are basically using 2019 engines.  Even with the engine development freeze for a year, bikes are faster. 

Top Speed Record:
2019 Marc Marquez  Honda 252km/h
2021 Johann Zarco  Ducati 262,4km/h

Fastest pole lap:
2019 Maverick Vinales Yamaha 1'53,546
2021 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati 1'52,772

Lap Record:
2019 Marc Marquez Honda 1'53,380
2021 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati 1'52,772  (Warm-up and race still to come, but unlikely to be broken in either)

Fastest Race Lap:
2016 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'54,927
2021 ???

VR46, with his lap that placed him 4th on the grid is the fastest lap he ever did around Losail.



You can add another 100kph to those top speed records :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 29, 2021, 09:23:09 am
Wow!  DB40 really shone today.  Missed Q2 by one spot.  Made it into Q2 from Q1, then as already said, new lap record and pole.  Bliksem!  Nicely done.  His team mate also on front row in 3rd.  This Petronas team is not there to play silly buggers. Staring 1 and 3 in Moto3, 7 and 15 in Moto2 and 4 and 7 in MotoGP. 

How about the old dude?  4th on the grid and first (and this sounds incredibly wrong on so many levels) independent rider.  When he went into Parc Ferme I thought, what the heck VR, did you not see you were knocked out of third?  Then I realised he is there because he is first independent rider.  I am going to have to say that to my self often to get used to the idea.

What about that top speed set by Zarco?  362,4km/h!  Holy moly!

Hardly start of the season and already someone cost me on Superbru as I had Quartararo for pole.  Pecco Bagnaia you shit!   :snorting:

Some observations.  We have had the debate on whether the bikes should be limited in any way, many times and the jury is out on that.  Unfortunately there were no MotoGP race on Losail in Qatar in 2020.  Due to Covid an engine development freeze was put in place by Dorna.  This means that the engines used by factory spec bikes were locked in in March 2020 and no upgrades or changes made since.  The satellite riders not on factory bikes are basically using 2019 engines.  Even with the engine development freeze for a year, bikes are faster. 

Top Speed Record:
2019 Marc Marquez  Honda 252km/h
2021 Johann Zarco  Ducati 262,4km/h

Fastest pole lap:
2019 Maverick Vinales Yamaha 1'53,546
2021 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati 1'52,772

Lap Record:
2019 Marc Marquez Honda 1'53,380
2021 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati 1'52,772  (Warm-up and race still to come, but unlikely to be broken in either)

Fastest Race Lap:
2016 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'54,927
2021 ???

VR46, with his lap that placed him 4th on the grid is the fastest lap he ever did around Losail.



You can add another 100kph to those top speed records :lol8:

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Indeed.  Sometimes the connection between my brain and fingers work as well as the connection between Morbidellis holshot button and the holeshot device. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 29, 2021, 10:58:15 am
The Chassis is what I have always loved about Yamaha. And of course, many years ago, the 2stroke engines. :thumleft:

In the old day even, the NSR's would almost always have the power edge over the Yamaha YZR's, but it would be the handling that often gave Yamaha the championship.

Today, it has become a very fine balance between power, tyre wear, fuel consumption, etc.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 29, 2021, 11:24:20 am
The Chassis is what I have always loved about Yamaha. And of course, many years ago, the 2stroke engines. :thumleft:

In the old day even, the NSR's would almost always have the power edge over the Yamaha YZR's, but it would be the handling that often gave Yamaha the championship.

Today, it has become a very fine balance between power, tyre wear, fuel consumption, etc.

Same with me.  I have always liked the sweet handling bikes over the brutal powered ones.  Obviously on a track like Loseil, or Mugello with their very long straights outright power is an advantage, but handling is, in the greater scheme of things, better. 

These days that fine balance you mention is down to fractions and a minute error can cost a rider 10 places easily. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 29, 2021, 12:07:05 pm
The Chassis is what I have always loved about Yamaha. And of course, many years ago, the 2stroke engines. :thumleft:

In the old day even, the NSR's would almost always have the power edge over the Yamaha YZR's, but it would be the handling that often gave Yamaha the championship.

Today, it has become a very fine balance between power, tyre wear, fuel consumption, etc.

Same with me.  I have always liked the sweet handling bikes over the brutal powered ones.  Obviously on a track like Loseil, or Mugello with their very long straights outright power is an advantage, but handling is, in the greater scheme of things, better. 

These days that fine balance you mention is down to fractions and a minute error can cost a rider 10 places easily.

Zarco se Duc het sweet handling" vertoon toe hy gaan draai het in die kitty litter op die einde van die main straight , met sy 362kmph stootjie.... :lol8:
Dit is nou nie altemit nie, die man het uit en uit alles ingesit om die rekord te klap saam met `n stert windjie.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 29, 2021, 12:27:18 pm
i am going to console Mir's mom...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on March 29, 2021, 04:27:45 pm
i am going to console Mir's mom...
Milf, much? :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 29, 2021, 09:02:09 pm
I believe that Dorna, Cumbradius and the other few who runs MotoGP, should simply take this win by Vinhales on that Yamaha as the textbook race for future reference.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on March 29, 2021, 10:19:24 pm
I believe that Dorna, Cumbradius and the other few who runs MotoGP, should simply take this win by Vinhales on that Yamaha as the textbook race for future reference.
Valve gate chapter can now also be closed. Heard production moved from New Delhi back to Iwata.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 29, 2021, 10:45:46 pm
I believe that Dorna, Cumbradius and the other few who runs MotoGP, should simply take this win by Vinhales on that Yamaha as the textbook race for future reference.

It was a great race by Vinales, but one swallow does not make a porn star .... or is that a summer?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: big oil on March 29, 2021, 11:20:03 pm
I believe that Dorna, Cumbradius and the other few who runs MotoGP, should simply take this win by Vinhales on that Yamaha as the textbook race for future reference.

It was a great race by Vinales, but one swallow does not make a porn star .... or is that a summer?

 :spitcoffee: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 30, 2021, 07:27:08 am
I believe that Dorna, Cumbradius and the other few who runs MotoGP, should simply take this win by Vinhales on that Yamaha as the textbook race for future reference.

It was a great race by Vinales, but one swallow does not make a porn star .... or is that a summer?

But it did make winter for the Ducati's.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on March 30, 2021, 08:50:02 am
Incredible faultless clinical race by MV.  Always knew he can but great seeing him putting it all together. Hope he can keep some consistency.

What happened to the KTMs? Just not competitive?

Seems BB moered Oupa back to 19th :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2021, 10:03:54 am
I am wondering if Aprilia will break contract with Savadori after the much vaunted Dovi testing and set Dovi on the 2nd bike for th erest of the season.  Savadori is clearly not coming to the Aprilia party.


Incredible faultless clinical race by MV.  Always knew he can but great seeing him putting it all together. Hope he can keep some consistency.

What happened to the KTMs? Just not competitive?

Seems BB moered Oupa back to 19th :imaposer:

KTMs not competitive on this track for sure.  Let us hope they get their stuff sorted soonest. 

BB33 had better start thinking about his riding style.  They are getting ready to slap ride through penalties regularly and he may find himself on the wrong side of that stick.  Oupa still finished 12th ahead of all KTMs.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 30, 2021, 10:09:38 am
I am wondering if Aprilia will break contract with Savadori after the much vaunted Dovi testing and set Dovi on the 2nd bike for th erest of the season.  Savadori is clearly not coming to the Aprilia party.


Incredible faultless clinical race by MV.  Always knew he can but great seeing him putting it all together. Hope he can keep some consistency.

What happened to the KTMs? Just not competitive?

Seems BB moered Oupa back to 19th :imaposer:

KTMs not competitive on this track for sure.  Let us hope they get their stuff sorted soonest. 

BB33 had better start thinking about his riding style.  They are getting ready to slap ride through penalties regularly and he may find himself on the wrong side of that stick.  Oupa still finished 12th ahead of all KTMs.

Lets hope so  !  By the time they eventualy sorted the Moto 2 bike his season was down the drain!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2021, 10:20:19 am
I am wondering if Aprilia will break contract with Savadori after the much vaunted Dovi testing and set Dovi on the 2nd bike for th erest of the season.  Savadori is clearly not coming to the Aprilia party.


Incredible faultless clinical race by MV.  Always knew he can but great seeing him putting it all together. Hope he can keep some consistency.

What happened to the KTMs? Just not competitive?

Seems BB moered Oupa back to 19th :imaposer:

KTMs not competitive on this track for sure.  Let us hope they get their stuff sorted soonest. 

BB33 had better start thinking about his riding style.  They are getting ready to slap ride through penalties regularly and he may find himself on the wrong side of that stick.  Oupa still finished 12th ahead of all KTMs.

Lets hope so  !  By the time they eventualy sorted the Moto 2 bike his season was down the drain!

For sure and in the following year they withdrew from Moto2 with Aki Ajo Racing now doing extremely good in Moto2 with Kalex bikes in KTM livery.  So, they left Moto2, to put more resources in effort into MotoGP.  I believe they are doing exactly that.  Hopefully they will sort the bikes quickly.  My understanding is that the KTMs are struggling because this is a fast, flowing track.  The problem is, there is one more race here and then there are at least two more fast and flowing tracks coming.  I love BB33 at KTM.  It is a nice, long story, lekker to tell, but if KTM doesn't sort their bikes, he should move on.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: facmp on March 30, 2021, 11:40:36 am
Olivera was not happy with Michellin front tyres iether

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/pols-honda-motogp-debut-just-one-tenth-off-the-pace
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 30, 2021, 01:50:55 pm
Olivera was not happy with Michellin front tyres iether

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/pols-honda-motogp-debut-just-one-tenth-off-the-pace

Excellent point to do with the tyres, and that KTM and Honda are being compromised by the poor choice at Qatar.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 30, 2021, 01:54:40 pm
Olivera was not happy with Michellin front tyres iether

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/pols-honda-motogp-debut-just-one-tenth-off-the-pace

Blaming tyre s is not going to help!!!! It is the same tyre s for everyone!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Avontier on March 30, 2021, 02:26:54 pm
Olivera was not happy with Michellin front tyres iether

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/pols-honda-motogp-debut-just-one-tenth-off-the-pace

Blaming tyre s is not going to help!!!! It is the same tyre s for everyone!!!!

It's not that simple. When fractions of seconds make all the difference, you should at least be offered alternatives with something as crucial as tyres. His complaint about the medium not being used by anyone is a valid one if true.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BB King on March 30, 2021, 02:43:35 pm
Olivera was not happy with Michellin front tyres iether

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/pols-honda-motogp-debut-just-one-tenth-off-the-pace

Blaming tyre s is not going to help!!!! It is the same tyre s for everyone!!!!

It's not that simple. When fractions of seconds make all the difference, you should at least be offered alternatives with something as crucial as tyres. His complaint about the medium not being used by anyone is a valid one if true.

And, how do you (Michelin) debut a tyre at something as important as season opener.
At their level, you can certainly ride around "minor" tyre issue/wear. i.e. issues are bigger than even they expected...

Just my 2cents!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 30, 2021, 07:57:00 pm
Olivera was not happy with Michellin front tyres iether

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/pols-honda-motogp-debut-just-one-tenth-off-the-pace

Blaming tyre s is not going to help!!!! It is the same tyre s for everyone!!!!

But, it is not the same bike with the same rider with the same riding style and same weight for everyone.  It is absolute bollocks that Michelin is only contracted to bring 3 compounds of their choice to a race.  They should add at least two others.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 31, 2021, 07:19:30 am
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 31, 2021, 08:37:33 am
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 31, 2021, 08:56:39 am
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

I think you are missing the point - Michelin brought essentially a new front tyre to the track with no other choice ... now FFS if you had been "fixing your shit" all of last year using a different tyre as your benchmark then it is simply a fuckup. Just because it works better with some other brands does not make it right. We all know (or should do) that some bikes work better on certain tracks than others (rather than being a case of just "KTM's bike doesn't work") but to throw extra curve balls at teams in their first race of the season is bollocks.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 31, 2021, 11:45:15 am
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

I think you are missing the point - Michelin brought essentially a new front tyre to the track with no other choice ... now FFS if you had been "fixing your shit" all of last year using a different tyre as your benchmark then it is simply a fuckup. Just because it works better with some other brands does not make it right. We all know (or should do) that some bikes work better on certain tracks than others (rather than being a case of just "KTM's bike doesn't work") but to throw extra curve balls at teams in their first race of the season is bollocks.

My point is !!!! The curve ball is the same for everyone!!! The single tyre supllier is a cost saving level the playing field thing!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 31, 2021, 12:09:50 pm
Ja nee, the teams should have been given more time to develop a fuel map for the new tire ....
While the racers are farting around in their motorhomes.... :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 31, 2021, 12:44:28 pm
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

I think you are missing the point - Michelin brought essentially a new front tyre to the track with no other choice ... now FFS if you had been "fixing your shit" all of last year using a different tyre as your benchmark then it is simply a fuckup. Just because it works better with some other brands does not make it right. We all know (or should do) that some bikes work better on certain tracks than others (rather than being a case of just "KTM's bike doesn't work") but to throw extra curve balls at teams in their first race of the season is bollocks.

My point is !!!! The curve ball is the same for everyone!!! The single tyre supllier is a cost saving level the playing field thing!!

But the curveball isn't the same for everyone. If by luck the tyre suits your chassis then it isn't a curveball is it...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 31, 2021, 02:36:21 pm
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

When was that?  Before life TV coverage, internet interviews, etc?  Do you honestly believe they do not complain at the IOM TT races?  They do.  We just don't know because we only get a bloody 30 minute highlights package every year.


I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

You are now missing quite a few points.

Yes, they must sort the bike, crap tyre or not.  I am sure they know this. 

However, as already indicated, the tyre impact is not the same for everyone.  Not at all.  These are not old farts, farting about in the D-Class on a WD track day.  BB33 is well known for is hard and late braking while cornering.  Imagine the impact on him by a tyre that doesn't work in those circumstances, compared to a much smoother rider like Joan Mir.

Then you (and Altie it seems) also seem to think that these guys, when asked by interviewers from all over the world how their race went, must only sing praises.  None are allowed to state what they considered a problem.  Strange thinking.  Personally I want to hear from the horses mouth what went well and what did not.  I would hate to get fed only one side of the story.

Like Altie you yearn for a day gone by when there were apparently no complaints.  That was also the day when we had no news in SA and therefore no complaints.  I prefer this modern era where we have life racing and pretty much life coverage of media debriefs, interviews with riders, etc. and if a rider states he struggled with a tyre, or he loved a tyre, I like to know about that and try to understand the issue.





Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 31, 2021, 03:59:28 pm
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

When was that?  Before life TV coverage, internet interviews, etc?  Do you honestly believe they do not complain at the IOM TT races?  They do.  We just don't know because we only get a bloody 30 minute highlights package every year.


I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

You are now missing quite a few points.

Yes, they must sort the bike, crap tyre or not.  I am sure they know this. 

However, as already indicated, the tyre impact is not the same for everyone.  Not at all.  These are not old farts, farting about in the D-Class on a WD track day.  BB33 is well known for is hard and late braking while cornering.  Imagine the impact on him by a tyre that doesn't work in those circumstances, compared to a much smoother rider like Joan Mir.

Then you (and Altie it seems) also seem to think that these guys, when asked by interviewers from all over the world how their race went, must only sing praises.  None are allowed to state what they considered a problem.  Strange thinking.  Personally I want to hear from the horses mouth what went well and what did not.  I would hate to get fed only one side of the story.

Like Altie you yearn for a day gone by when there were apparently no complaints.  That was also the day when we had no news in SA and therefore no complaints.  I prefer this modern era where we have life racing and pretty much life coverage of media debriefs, interviews with riders, etc. and if a rider states he struggled with a tyre, or he loved a tyre, I like to know about that and try to understand the issue.

My point is !!! Everybody had the same crapy tyre!  Imagine how far ahead they would have been if they had perfect tyres!

Other teams would have had gains from a better tyre as well ! Towards the end most people were stugling with tyre problems!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 31, 2021, 04:01:51 pm
My point is !!! Everybody had the same crapy tyre!  Imagine how far ahead they would have been if they had perfect tyres!

Other teams would have had gains from a better tyre as well ! Towards the end most people were stugling with tyre problems!

Yes, you have clearly stated your point a few times now.  I fully understand your point, but I completely disagree with it. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on March 31, 2021, 04:04:49 pm
My point is !!! Everybody had the same crapy tyre!  Imagine how far ahead they would have been if they had perfect tyres!

Other teams would have had gains from a better tyre as well ! Towards the end most people were stugling with tyre problems!

Yes, you have clearly stated your point a few times now.  I fully understand your point, but I completely disagree with it.

Sorry for making the point then ! You have the right to disagree! As do I !
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on March 31, 2021, 04:09:08 pm
We don't have to worry, we will be referring back to this topic a lot during this season it seems.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on March 31, 2021, 04:25:59 pm
My point is !!! Everybody had the same crapy tyre!  Imagine how far ahead they would have been if they had perfect tyres!

Other teams would have had gains from a better tyre as well ! Towards the end most people were stugling with tyre problems!

Yes, you have clearly stated your point a few times now.  I fully understand your point, but I completely disagree with it.

Sorry for making the point then ! You have the right to disagree! As do I !

No need to apologize for making the point.  You have every right to do so.  I would just suggest you lay of the poor exclamation mark key.  It really is taking a hammering.   :ricky:


We don't have to worry, we will be referring back to this topic a lot during this season it seems.

For sure.  Just another 18 to 19 times or so.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 31, 2021, 04:43:30 pm
Incredible faultless clinical race by MV.  Always knew he can but great seeing him putting it all together. Hope he can keep some consistency.

What happened to the KTMs? Just not competitive?

Seems BB moered Oupa back to 19th :imaposer:

still beat the ou with the sore shoulder
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 31, 2021, 05:54:19 pm
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

I think you are missing the point - Michelin brought essentially a new front tyre to the track with no other choice ... now FFS if you had been "fixing your shit" all of last year using a different tyre as your benchmark then it is simply a fuckup. Just because it works better with some other brands does not make it right. We all know (or should do) that some bikes work better on certain tracks than others (rather than being a case of just "KTM's bike doesn't work") but to throw extra curve balls at teams in their first race of the season is bollocks.

My point is !!!! The curve ball is the same for everyone!!! The single tyre supllier is a cost saving level the playing field thing!!

We are not talking about a problem with a single supplier - we are talking about a single tyre!  You cannot offer a choice and have teams do R&D accordingly and then suddenly offer no choice only one tyre! BTW MotoGP is never a level playing field !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 31, 2021, 06:50:15 pm
Frankly, these teams must simply adapt to the "one type of tyre rule", like they adapted to the "one type of ECU rule".

I mean, the poor 600 class, they all have to ride the same engines.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on March 31, 2021, 07:06:07 pm
Talking about tyres, I can't see the point of having 1 manufacturer ...................... we should be arguing about which tyre is best, shouldn't we?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on March 31, 2021, 07:12:15 pm
Frankly, these teams must simply adapt to the "one type of tyre rule", like they adapted to the "one type of ECU rule".

I mean, the poor 600 class, they all have to ride the same engines.

They all have adapted and designed and developed bikes around them (except for Honda that have tyres designed around them  ;)) but are now being dry humped by Michelin who cannot supply a usable medium front forcing all teams to use the softs at Qatar. Piss poor showing from them.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: adamktm on March 31, 2021, 07:49:18 pm
Frankly, these teams must simply adapt to the "one type of tyre rule", like they adapted to the "one type of ECU rule".

I mean, the poor 600 class, they all have to ride the same engines.

765cc :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 31, 2021, 08:07:13 pm
Frankly, these teams must simply adapt to the "one type of tyre rule", like they adapted to the "one type of ECU rule".

I mean, the poor 600 class, they all have to ride the same engines.

765cc :pot:

Ja, ja :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on March 31, 2021, 08:30:48 pm
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

When was that?  Before life TV coverage, internet interviews, etc?  Do you honestly believe they do not complain at the IOM TT races?  They do.  We just don't know because we only get a bloody 30 minute highlights package every year.


I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

You are now missing quite a few points.

Yes, they must sort the bike, crap tyre or not.  I am sure they know this. 

However, as already indicated, the tyre impact is not the same for everyone.  Not at all.  These are not old farts, farting about in the D-Class on a WD track day.  BB33 is well known for is hard and late braking while cornering.  Imagine the impact on him by a tyre that doesn't work in those circumstances, compared to a much smoother rider like Joan Mir.

Then you (and Altie it seems) also seem to think that these guys, when asked by interviewers from all over the world how their race went, must only sing praises.  None are allowed to state what they considered a problem.  Strange thinking.  Personally I want to hear from the horses mouth what went well and what did not.  I would hate to get fed only one side of the story.

Like Altie you yearn for a day gone by when there were apparently no complaints.  That was also the day when we had no news in SA and therefore no complaints.  I prefer this modern era where we have life racing and pretty much life coverage of media debriefs, interviews with riders, etc. and if a rider states he struggled with a tyre, or he loved a tyre, I like to know about that and try to understand the issue.

Wat wil jy verstaan my bra? Dat die racers is `n victim is van moeder natuur, die bande vervaardiger, die wind van voor, `n fuel mapping wat jou `n straight line edge gee, maar dit suip te veel petrol, dalk `n conspiracy theory erens?
Ek verstaan as daar swaar gereen word by die IOM TT wil die ouens ry, maar race direction stop dit weens `n vraagteken oor veiligheid.
Dit werk andersom by Motogp.
Ek wil inskakel op Motogp op racing te kyk.
As ek belangestel in drama, kan ek mos elke dag my Betamax video kyk oor Oop parra se onderhoud met Herrie en sy strandloper Meggen...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2021, 05:18:36 pm
I recall a time when everyone did not bitch about everything, and put their heads down and work with what they had.
It is still like that in some other formats, like the IOM TT races etc.

When was that?  Before life TV coverage, internet interviews, etc?  Do you honestly believe they do not complain at the IOM TT races?  They do.  We just don't know because we only get a bloody 30 minute highlights package every year.


I whole agree 100%  And stress again everybody had the same tyre  KTM s bike doesn t work  !  Others do !  Shut up and fix your shit !  or come last your choice!

You are now missing quite a few points.

Yes, they must sort the bike, crap tyre or not.  I am sure they know this. 

However, as already indicated, the tyre impact is not the same for everyone.  Not at all.  These are not old farts, farting about in the D-Class on a WD track day.  BB33 is well known for is hard and late braking while cornering.  Imagine the impact on him by a tyre that doesn't work in those circumstances, compared to a much smoother rider like Joan Mir.

Then you (and Altie it seems) also seem to think that these guys, when asked by interviewers from all over the world how their race went, must only sing praises.  None are allowed to state what they considered a problem.  Strange thinking.  Personally I want to hear from the horses mouth what went well and what did not.  I would hate to get fed only one side of the story.

Like Altie you yearn for a day gone by when there were apparently no complaints.  That was also the day when we had no news in SA and therefore no complaints.  I prefer this modern era where we have life racing and pretty much life coverage of media debriefs, interviews with riders, etc. and if a rider states he struggled with a tyre, or he loved a tyre, I like to know about that and try to understand the issue.

Wat wil jy verstaan my bra? Dat die racers is `n victim is van moeder natuur, die bande vervaardiger, die wind van voor, `n fuel mapping wat jou `n straight line edge gee, maar dit suip te veel petrol, dalk `n conspiracy theory erens?
Ek verstaan as daar swaar gereen word by die IOM TT wil die ouens ry, maar race direction stop dit weens `n vraagteken oor veiligheid.
Dit werk andersom by Motogp.
Ek wil inskakel op Motogp op racing te kyk.
As ek belangestel in drama, kan ek mos elke dag my Betamax video kyk oor Oop parra se onderhoud met Herrie en sy strandloper Meggen...

Het jy dan boobs dat jy 'n bra nodig het?  Glo my vry, jy wil my nie as jou bra hę nie.  Ek is veels te swaar.   :lol8:

Ek verstaan jy verkies om Megan en Harry te kyk vir drama en niks belangstel in motorfiets wedrenne behalwe die ren self nie.  Dis okay.  Daar is baie wat ook so is.  Ek daarenteen verkies ook die drama en, inligting, nuus en kennis wat om die wedrenne draai.  Dit is as gevolg van die voorliefde van my dat ek weet dat die IoM TT jaers ook 'n veiligheidskommissie het, nes MotoGP en ook onder sekere omstandighede nie sal jaag nie.

Hoekom dink jy is daar so klompie van ons hier op die forum?  Ons sit nie hier en tik terwyl die wedren aan die gang is nie.  A nee a!  Dan kyk ons die wedren.  Voor en na die wedren gesels ons hier, dus wat jy noem die drama.  Van ons geniet dit.   

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: GavinB on April 01, 2021, 08:50:34 pm
In the interest of blowing some life into this thread herewith my predictions for the season:

10. Joan Mir smiles like a white shark who just saw a world class model swimming naked because he was fastest on track for two sectors of one race.  He is still leading the championship with one race to go.
9. Petrucci retires because the KTM scares him.  He becomes a food critic for an Italian newspaper.
8. Maverick Vinales start on pole and finish 19th, 19 times.
7. Cal Crutchlow, Andrea Dovizioso, Danny Pedrosa and Jorge Lorenzo are banned from race tracks as they get drunk during wild parties and then line up on the grip screaming BRAAAAAAPPP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP!
6. MM93 returns, but is a shadow of his old self.  Halfway through the season he retires from racing and becomes a visor cleaner guy for the Repsol Honda team.
5. Pol Espargaro crashes Repsol Hondas faster than Honda can build them.  Last 10 races they use old Honda SS50s that they dress up in Repsol fairings.  He still makes two podiums.
4. Fabio Quartararo sets a new record for the rider who crashed out of first place the most frequently in a single season.  Somehow he manages to crash every single time before the Yamaha throws valves.
3. Franco Morbidelli rides a perfect season and finishes 3rd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor VR46.
2. BB33 rides a picture perfect season with many podiums and finishes 2nd in the championship.  He becomes very irritating when he constantly thanks his mentor TheBear.
1. VR46 wins his 10th world championship.  At the after party it leaks out that Petronas actually used BMWs leased in a secret last minute deal .

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

#2 is so funny!!  :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:  ( not the BB bit, the mentor chirp)

I love it!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 02, 2021, 12:37:37 pm
Ag nee foei tog man.... ;)

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-questions-respect-of-some-motogp-riders/6028746/
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: adamktm on April 02, 2021, 01:13:49 pm
They all stuff it up the inside every now and then and that Rossi included!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2021, 01:16:30 pm
They all stuff it up the inside every now and then and that Rossi included!

Very true, but BB33 needs to take a bit more care.  The current climate in MotoGP is to dish out long lap penalties like they are Smarties at a kiddies birthday party.  They just spend millions to monitor track limits, for instance.  Malgeite, in my opinion, but there it is.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2021, 01:51:32 pm
Qatar starts all over again.  Me, I am not complaining.   :thumleft:

DB40, 13th in FP1.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 02, 2021, 02:14:56 pm
With track temps over 50 degrees the FP1 times are going to mean pretty little - mostly just seat time.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 02, 2021, 03:36:39 pm
Frankie's Yammie up in smoke. Must have forgot to turf the old valves.

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2021, 04:01:31 pm
Frankie's Yammie up in smoke. Must have forgot to turf the old valves.

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They went back to 2-stroke.   :lol8:

FP1 done and dusted and those infernal KTMs are still in the bottom half of the grid.  This excludes Petrux, who seemed to go pretty well throughout.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 02, 2021, 05:41:45 pm
 :imaposer: :imaposer: @TheBear

Yes, the Yammie's are back on two-stroke, but the stingy bastards is using BP ZIP at 20 to one.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 02, 2021, 08:23:25 pm
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 02, 2021, 09:41:29 pm
Ag nee foei tog man.... ;)

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-questions-respect-of-some-motogp-riders/6028746/

Says the guy who finished MotoGP for Stoner and Gibernau.......and possibly The Roman gladiator too. Through his own version of "disrespect" :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 08:58:03 am
Ja hypocrite much.  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Kamanya on April 03, 2021, 11:23:40 am
Materially, what is the difference between the factory and Petronas GP bikes?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 01:03:56 pm
Looks like a bit of a sandstorm brewing in Doha.  :o.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 01:26:00 pm
Ja hypocrite much.  :o

He grew older and wiser.  Would you, me, 2SD or anyone else at 60 tell our grand kids it is okay to do what we did at that age?  Did you at age 40 tell your kids it was okay to do what you did at 15?   :lol8:

I can see it now!  TheBear at 40 to MiniMeBear: "Nee, maar dis reg!  Gooi maar die bure se huis met eiers.  Ek het dit ook gedoen en ek wil nie 'n hipokraat wees nie!"  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 01:27:30 pm
FP2 Moto3:  DB40 fastest!  Cool.

FP2 MotoGP:  BB33 struggling, as are all other KTMs.  Petrux seems to be getting to grips with the bike though.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 01:41:52 pm
FP3 Moto3:  DB40 7th fastest, still fastest on Combined times.  Free pass to Q2.   :thumleft:

So far, 7 riders will start from pit lane tomorrow for "irresponsible" riding during FP2.  Read, " going slowly waiting for a slipstream in a dangerous part of the track".  Race Direction have warned them repeatedly from last year that penalties will become more severe.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 01:52:31 pm
Ja hypocrite much.  :o

He grew older and wiser.  Would you, me, 2SD or anyone else at 60 tell our grand kids it is okay to do what we did at that age?  Did you at age 40 tell your kids it was okay to do what you did at 15?   :lol8:

I can see it now!  TheBear at 40 to MiniMeBear: "Nee, maar dis reg!  Gooi maar die bure se huis met eiers.  Ek het dit ook gedoen en ek wil nie 'n hipokraat wees nie!"  :lol8:

Getting older and wiser should mitigate against being a hypocrite not feed it. It should give one the perspective to be self reflexive and allow one to realise that some younger than you are behaving normally for their age. To pull the respect card is just bollocks - and yes as a toppie over 60 it does not work with my kids either!  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 01:54:54 pm
Materially, what is the difference between the factory and Petronas GP bikes?

One Petronas bike is identical to the factory bikes.  It is easily recognizable by the large yellow number 46 on the front.

The other Petronas bike was a factory bike last year.  It means, this year and only this year, it is pretty similar as no engine development was allowed during 2020 due to Covid.  It would therefore have the same engine.  It would not have any of the go fast parts developed for the 2021 factory bike, such as an upgraded holeshot device, new fairing, etc.  It may well get it during the year if extras become available, but it pretty much starts the season as a 2020 factory bike.

It is not always easy to say exactly though because the deal between Yamaha and Petronas would include in great detail, what Petronas get for their money, so it could be a hybrid between 2020 and 2021 factory bike.

Another thing sometimes forgotten is, does the deal include, or exclude full factory support.  This could make a huge difference.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 01:54:55 pm
FP3 Moto3:  DB40 7th fastest.  Free pass to Q2.   :thumleft:

So far, 7 riders will start from pit lane tomorrow for "irresponsible" riding during FP2.  Read, " going slowly waiting for a slipstream in a dangerous part of the track".  Race Direction have warned them repeatedly from last year that penalties will become more severe.

I think they had to send the message as this playing silly buggers at the 11 hour has become the norm and is BS.  :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 01:55:53 pm
FP3 Moto3:  DB40 7th fastest.  Free pass to Q2.   :thumleft:

So far, 7 riders will start from pit lane tomorrow for "irresponsible" riding during FP2.  Read, " going slowly waiting for a slipstream in a dangerous part of the track".  Race Direction have warned them repeatedly from last year that penalties will become more severe.

I think they had to send the message as this playing silly buggers at the 11 hour has become the norm and is BS.  :3some:

Yep.  It was time to crack the whip a tad harder than previously.  If you watched FP2, the last 2 minutes or so was utter chaos.

Sjoe!  Conditions for MotoGP FP3 is terrible.  Serious wind with sand blown on track.  Only 15 bikes participating at the moment.  FQ's best lap today is 3 seconds slower than yesterday.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 02:32:58 pm
Ag nee foei tog man.... ;)

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-questions-respect-of-some-motogp-riders/6028746/

Says the guy who finished MotoGP for Stoner and Gibernau.......and possibly The Roman gladiator too. Through his own version of "disrespect" :imaposer:

When BB33 was asked about this incident, Brad said that he did not touch VR and perhaps VR is becoming a bit sensitive!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 03:06:18 pm
Ag nee foei tog man.... ;)

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-questions-respect-of-some-motogp-riders/6028746/

Says the guy who finished MotoGP for Stoner and Gibernau.......and possibly The Roman gladiator too. Through his own version of "disrespect" :imaposer:

When BB33 was asked about this incident, Brad said that he did not touch VR and perhaps VR is becoming a bit sensitive!   :lol8:

And well said indeed (even if it does sound like a chirp to a teacher after you have moered someone behind the bicycle shed at school break)  :thumleft: >:D.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 03:09:02 pm
Ag nee foei tog man.... ;)

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-questions-respect-of-some-motogp-riders/6028746/

Says the guy who finished MotoGP for Stoner and Gibernau.......and possibly The Roman gladiator too. Through his own version of "disrespect" :imaposer:

When BB33 was asked about this incident, Brad said that he did not touch VR and perhaps VR is becoming a bit sensitive!   :lol8:

And well said indeed (even if it does sound like a chirp to a teacher after you have moered someone behind the bicycle shed at school break)  :thumleft: >:D.

Janee!  It does sound like that, but then, the commentators stressed that BB is always brutally honest.  It is why they like interviewing him and that if he said he didn't touch VR, he probably did not. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 03:10:59 pm
MotoGP FP3 was a slow story due to terrible conditions.  In fact, four of the Ducatis didn't bother going out to participate. 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 03:24:19 pm
Ag nee foei tog man.... ;)

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-questions-respect-of-some-motogp-riders/6028746/

Says the guy who finished MotoGP for Stoner and Gibernau.......and possibly The Roman gladiator too. Through his own version of "disrespect" :imaposer:

When BB33 was asked about this incident, Brad said that he did not touch VR and perhaps VR is becoming a bit sensitive!   :lol8:

And well said indeed (even if it does sound like a chirp to a teacher after you have moered someone behind the bicycle shed at school break)  :thumleft: >:D.

Janee!  It does sound like that, but then, the commentators stressed that BB is always brutally honest.  It is why they like interviewing him and that if he said he didn't touch VR, he probably did not.

True story.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2021, 03:35:35 pm
I suggest VR swop bikes with BB.  Then BB would be in the top 3, VR in the bottom 3 and BB won't be able to shunt VR off the track.   :snorting:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 03, 2021, 04:22:00 pm
I suggest VR swop bikes with BB.  Then BB would be in the top 3, VR in the bottom 3 and BB won't be able to shunt VR off the track.   :snorting:

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Biesie on April 04, 2021, 07:41:49 am
Going to be a great race today.... hope Jorsie Martin can hold out to the finish.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on April 04, 2021, 08:59:07 am
What oupa is saying is that it is disrespectful nowadays to kick people off their bikes when they try to pass you. He demands to be respectfully passed... :imaposer:  indicators and all
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 04, 2021, 09:32:58 am
It's not Brad's fault, it's that ill-handling KTM arriving sideways into turns.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on April 04, 2021, 09:38:01 am
He said sorry I turned one way but the bike went another... Oupa should next time just push me in the right direction with his leg..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 04, 2021, 09:42:11 am
He said sorry I turned one way but the bike went another... Oupa should next time just push me in the right direction with his leg..

 :imaposer: KTM has too much experience in offroad bikes, that KTM is always looking for dirt.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: KiLRoy on April 04, 2021, 10:13:40 am
He said sorry I turned one way but the bike went another... Oupa should next time just push me in the right direction with his leg..

 :imaposer: KTM has too much experience in offroad bikes, that KTM is always looking for dirt.

Its looking for the garage...needs a spanner and replacement fuel pump..

Goodness gracious me..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: leading edge on April 04, 2021, 11:25:35 am
The European riders don't know that the Southern Hemisphere riders suffer from the CORIOLIS effect.. 8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2021, 11:26:08 am
What oupa is saying is that it is disrespectful nowadays to kick people off their bikes when they try to pass you. He demands to be respectfully passed... :imaposer:  indicators and all

Oupa would never say that as Oupa passed Grade 9 science and full well know it is impossible to kick someone of a bike while you are on a bike yourself.  We know he wouldn't say this because we know VR can talk k@k, but he is not stupid.

What he did however say was that it is disrespectful for an inhabitant of a shithole, who grew up on dried, raw meat to pass him on a bike that leaks oil from its suspension in the garage.  Also, that orange is a kickback to his racist past and should be changed forthwith.  He then whispered: "Kilroy is a twatwaffle", but I can't be sure.  He may have said " drol".  Sound wasn't that great.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on April 04, 2021, 11:37:04 am
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2021, 11:52:51 am
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!

BB will struggle here more than MO because the problem that the KTMs are experiencing is exactly what BBs riding style is.  The lack of front wheel grip hampers BB more than most because his riding style is dependent on proper front wheel grip.  One can only hope this gets sorted by KTM soonest and most certainly by the time they reach Europe.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2021, 11:58:40 am
Incredible how the conditions from one week to another can impact on these riders and bikes.  I guess it goes to show how their performance is balanced on a needle point.  Just a bible page thickness to either side and they are faster, or slower.  Check out these figures:

Pole time:  Qatar 1 = 1.52.77 / Qatar 2 = 1.53.10
Top speed during Q2: Qatar 1 = 357.6 / Qatar 2 = 349.5
Slowest (12th) during Q2: Qatar 1 = 1.53.93 / Qatar 2 = 1.55.09
Slowest top speed during Q2: Qatar 1 = 345.0 / Qatar 2 = 332.3

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 04, 2021, 12:17:16 pm
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!

BB will struggle here more than MO because the problem that the KTMs are experiencing is exactly what BBs riding style is.  The lack of front wheel grip hampers BB more than most because his riding style is dependent on proper front wheel grip.  One can only hope this gets sorted by KTM soonest and most certainly by the time they reach Europe.

Exactly - imho a pretty dof (ok uninformed) comment that he must shape up. Anyone who follows MotoGP closely will know why he is struggling and further that MO has a years more experience in MotoGP. Wait till he gets to Europe and away from night racing and the Qatar track before dissing him.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on April 04, 2021, 01:44:21 pm
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!

BB will struggle here more than MO because the problem that the KTMs are experiencing is exactly what BBs riding style is.  The lack of front wheel grip hampers BB more than most because his riding style is dependent on proper front wheel grip.  One can only hope this gets sorted by KTM soonest and most certainly by the time they reach Europe.



Exactly - imho a pretty dof (ok uninformed) comment that he must shape up. Anyone who follows MotoGP closely will know why he is struggling and further that MO has a years more experience in MotoGP. Wait till he gets to Europe and away from night racing and the Qatar track before dissing him.

Your level of support is admireable However calling me dof because I a have a diffrent opinion is not and a reflection of personality!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 04, 2021, 02:04:09 pm
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!

BB will struggle here more than MO because the problem that the KTMs are experiencing is exactly what BBs riding style is.  The lack of front wheel grip hampers BB more than most because his riding style is dependent on proper front wheel grip.  One can only hope this gets sorted by KTM soonest and most certainly by the time they reach Europe.



Exactly - imho a pretty dof (ok uninformed) comment that he must shape up. Anyone who follows MotoGP closely will know why he is struggling and further that MO has a years more experience in MotoGP. Wait till he gets to Europe and away from night racing and the Qatar track before dissing him.

Your level of support is admireable However calling me dof because I a have a diffrent opinion is not and a reflection of personality!

Sorry mate no offense meant. Not sure what personality has to do with it but those that know me know I shoot from the hip and am not in the personality polishing business.  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 04, 2021, 02:10:17 pm
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!

BB will struggle here more than MO because the problem that the KTMs are experiencing is exactly what BBs riding style is.  The lack of front wheel grip hampers BB more than most because his riding style is dependent on proper front wheel grip.  One can only hope this gets sorted by KTM soonest and most certainly by the time they reach Europe.

Exactly - imho a pretty dof (ok uninformed) comment that he must shape up. Anyone who follows MotoGP closely will know why he is struggling and further that MO has a years more experience in MotoGP. Wait till he gets to Europe and away from night racing and the Qatar track before dissing him.

One must consider that guys like MM and VR had no experience in MotoGP when they started winning in their first season.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on April 04, 2021, 03:44:54 pm
Been rooting for Brad since Moto 3 !  But  maybe the bike doesn t work ! But that aside! He is beaten by his teammate in every session! He needs to shape up!

BB will struggle here more than MO because the problem that the KTMs are experiencing is exactly what BBs riding style is.  The lack of front wheel grip hampers BB more than most because his riding style is dependent on proper front wheel grip.  One can only hope this gets sorted by KTM soonest and most certainly by the time they reach Europe.



Exactly - imho a pretty dof (ok uninformed) comment that he must shape up. Anyone who follows MotoGP closely will know why he is struggling and further that MO has a years more experience in MotoGP. Wait till he gets to Europe and away from night racing and the Qatar track before dissing him.

Your level of support is admireable However calling me dof because I a have a diffrent opinion is not and a reflection of personality!

Sorry mate no offense meant. Not sure what personality has to do with it but those that know me know I shoot from the hip and am not in the personality polishing business.  ;)

I should not ! But als not in the reading bussiness
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Serf on April 04, 2021, 07:46:36 pm
Well done BB33

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on April 04, 2021, 07:49:29 pm
Wow what a race! BB33 did pretty well to beat his teammate again, and end up 8th. What a ride! And JM, geez that rookie is doing things for himself, hey! Thoroughly entertaining.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on April 04, 2021, 08:00:36 pm
One thing is for sure .......................... if Rossi was riding that bike ....................... it would have lost!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 04, 2021, 08:19:31 pm
Absolute stonking racing in all classes today - some of the best in a long time.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: blockheadxl650v on April 04, 2021, 08:23:00 pm
Well done BB33

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And lets not forget Darryn p2 in moto 3.
2nd podium in a row.


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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Biesie on April 04, 2021, 08:29:40 pm
Absolute stonking racing in all classes today - some of the best in a long time.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:

Must agree was great to watch
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 04, 2021, 09:02:54 pm
MotoGP commentator; "It must be so incredibly frustrating for the Yamaha to be passed at will down the straight"

2StrokeDan; "It must be so incredibly frustrating for the Ducatis to be passed at will through the corners"

 :biggrin:

Best racing in a long time, how's that position changing in the 250's? :eek7: :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 04, 2021, 09:25:51 pm
Little slap on the wrist. Clearly the take home today was that a pitlane start is barely a penalty.  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 04, 2021, 09:49:44 pm
Great racing, not often you see  pack of top 10 together in one screen shot from the side.
Think it was 2 sec spread from one to ten at one time.
Couple of guys showing some calculated, matured riding, if that makes sense.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 05, 2021, 09:18:17 am
Great racing, not often you see  pack of top 10 together in one screen shot from the side.
Think it was 2 sec spread from one to ten at one time.
Couple of guys showing some calculated, matured riding, if that makes sense.

Certainly Fabio demonstrated a very well planned and executed mature race strategy. Brilliant race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2021, 11:12:01 am
Great racing, not often you see  pack of top 10 together in one screen shot from the side.
Think it was 2 sec spread from one to ten at one time.
Couple of guys showing some calculated, matured riding, if that makes sense.

Certainly Fabio demonstrated a very well planned and executed mature race strategy. Brilliant race.

Those Ducatis are so much more powerful, it reminded me of my friend racing his RD350 against 1100 Katana, CB900, etc. on Killarney. They would steam past down the straight, but he would repass around the rest of the track.

I am still convinced those Ducatis' power is their achilles heel.

Imagine the sort of extra heat you put into that rear pushing so much more top speed down the straight, then the front tyre has to handle braking heat from that higher top speed.

But as Ducati seem unable to match the Yamahas' handling, they need to pursue the engine power course.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 05, 2021, 12:23:22 pm
Great racing, not often you see  pack of top 10 together in one screen shot from the side.
Think it was 2 sec spread from one to ten at one time.
Couple of guys showing some calculated, matured riding, if that makes sense.

Certainly Fabio demonstrated a very well planned and executed mature race strategy. Brilliant race.

Those Ducatis are so much more powerful, it reminded me of my friend racing his RD350 against 1100 Katana, CB900, etc. on Killarney. They would steam past down the straight, but he would repass around the rest of the track.

I am still convinced those Ducatis' power is their achilles heel.

Imagine the sort of extra heat you put into that rear pushing so much more top speed down the straight, then the front tyre has to handle braking heat from that higher top speed.

But as Ducati seem unable to match the Yamahas' handling, they need to pursue the engine power course.


Looks like Yamaha and Suzuki both have a package that will prove difficult to beat in the European circuits,  lets see.
The Suzukis never look dangerously quick, but they creep up through the ranks, and somehow they preserve tires just about best in the field.
MM will come back to a class where the boys have honed some riding skills in leaps,  he will have to bring his A game.
However bad his fall was, and this k@k virus thing for the last last year, it has shaken up the class for sure.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2021, 01:43:44 pm
Great racing, not often you see  pack of top 10 together in one screen shot from the side.
Think it was 2 sec spread from one to ten at one time.
Couple of guys showing some calculated, matured riding, if that makes sense.

Moto 3:  Top 11 finished 2s apart.
Moto 2:  Top 11 finished 18s apart.
MotoGP:  Top 11 5,5s apart.

This was one of the closest MotoGP races in some time, for sure. A pleasure to watch.

Looks like Yamaha and Suzuki both have a package that will prove difficult to beat in the European circuits,  lets see.
The Suzukis never look dangerously quick, but they creep up through the ranks, and somehow they preserve tires just about best in the field.
MM will come back to a class where the boys have honed some riding skills in leaps,  he will have to bring his A game.
However bad his fall was, and this k@k virus thing for the last last year, it has shaken up the class for sure.

I am not convinced about Yamaha yet.  They seem a bit all over the place.  They are still suffering from rear tyre issues and these races were at night.  We will have to wait and see how they go when they hit the European tracks where racing will be during the day with warmer tarmac.

That said, I hope like hell you are right and I am totally wrong.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2021, 01:48:26 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Bappas on April 05, 2021, 02:16:15 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board

Ha Ha  I am actualy a Big Fan !  Very glad about his performance this weekend! However I still think, although this a personal opinion ! He can do beter with regards to the Bike!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2021, 02:57:14 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board

Ha Ha  I am actualy a Big Fan !  Very glad about his performance this weekend! However I still think, although this a personal opinion ! He can do beter with regards to the Bike!

We are all fans, so we will tend to get a tad heated.  He just gave KTM their first ever top 10 finish on the Loseil track and they have been there a few times, so can he do better?  He could, but he is already doing better than most on a KTM.  This doesn't mean he shouldn't improve though.

Just for interest sake, KTM history at Loseil:

2018:  18th and DNF
2019:  12th and 17th
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil
2021 (Race 1):  13th, 14th, 17th and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  8th, 15th, 19th and DNF

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 05, 2021, 03:27:46 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board

Ha Ha  I am actualy a Big Fan !  Very glad about his performance this weekend! However I still think, although this a personal opinion ! He can do beter with regards to the Bike!

We are all fans, so we will tend to get a tad heated.  He just gave KTM their first ever top 10 finish on the Loseil track and they have been there a few times, so can he do better?  He could, but he is already doing better than most on a KTM.  This doesn't mean he shouldn't improve though.

Just for interest sake, KTM history at Loseil:

2018:  18th and DNF
2019:  12th and 17th
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil
2021 (Race 1):  13th, 14th, 17th and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  8th, 15th, 19th and DNF

 :eek7: :eek7: What, are they on 790's?? :peepwall: :pot: :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2021, 03:32:59 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board

Ha Ha  I am actualy a Big Fan !  Very glad about his performance this weekend! However I still think, although this a personal opinion ! He can do beter with regards to the Bike!

We are all fans, so we will tend to get a tad heated.  He just gave KTM their first ever top 10 finish on the Loseil track and they have been there a few times, so can he do better?  He could, but he is already doing better than most on a KTM.  This doesn't mean he shouldn't improve though.

Just for interest sake, KTM history at Loseil:

2018:  18th and DNF
2019:  12th and 17th
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil
2021 (Race 1):  13th, 14th, 17th and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  8th, 15th, 19th and DNF

 :eek7: :eek7: What, are they on 790's?? :peepwall: :pot: :pot:

Then, so BigOil tells us, it would have been ...

2018:  DNF and DNF
2019:  DNF and DNF
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil, but DNF anyway.
2021 (Race 1):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 05, 2021, 03:38:27 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board

 >:D Here, here  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on April 05, 2021, 04:01:01 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board Bored

 >:D Here, here Hear, hear :imaposer:

Spelling, boys .................................... both of you ...................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2021, 04:11:37 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board Bored

 >:D Here, here Hear, hear :imaposer:

Spelling, boys .................................... both of you ...................  :biggrin:

Woolley Bugger!  You joined u ... oh, wait.  Sorry Croacker.   >:D

I have to admit, I am bloody jealous that I didn't think to replace "Board" with "Bored" myself.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 05, 2021, 05:00:43 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board Bored

 >:D Here, here Hear, hear :imaposer:

Spelling, boys .................................... both of you ...................  :biggrin:

Shit - I guess I must now do lines to get the spellin wright.  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 05, 2021, 05:05:55 pm
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board Bored

 >:D Here, here Hear, hear :imaposer:

Spelling, boys .................................... both of you ...................  :biggrin:

Shit - I guess I must now do lines to get the spellin wright.  :laughing4:

At least you know how to spell shit, or you might have come across dof... :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on April 05, 2021, 06:00:09 pm
Oi! ......................... no sex in this thread, please.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Rough Rider on April 06, 2021, 07:57:59 am
Is this a MotoGP thread or a spelling competition?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 06, 2021, 08:59:09 am
Great racing, not often you see  pack of top 10 together in one screen shot from the side.
Think it was 2 sec spread from one to ten at one time.
Couple of guys showing some calculated, matured riding, if that makes sense.

Certainly Fabio demonstrated a very well planned and executed mature race strategy. Brilliant race.

Those Ducatis are so much more powerful, it reminded me of my friend racing his RD350 against 1100 Katana, CB900, etc. on Killarney. They would steam past down the straight, but he would repass around the rest of the track.

I am still convinced those Ducatis' power is their achilles heel.

Imagine the sort of extra heat you put into that rear pushing so much more top speed down the straight, then the front tyre has to handle braking heat from that higher top speed.

But as Ducati seem unable to match the Yamahas' handling, they need to pursue the engine power course.
Well ill handling or not they still finished 2nd and 3rd
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: leading edge on April 06, 2021, 09:22:38 am
Someone must have put a spell on him :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2021, 09:49:34 am
Two GPs down the line and it really is early days yet, but I am wondering about the bikes.

Suzuki:  Similar to last year.  Not the fastest, but have some magical formula to keep their rear tyres intact for late in the race and only a fool would discount them, even if they are 10 or so positions down at the start.  They also seem consistent.  Could we again see a champion without a win from them this year?

KTM:  They seem pretty quick on the straight, but stank at this track on handling.  Then again, they have always struggled at this track.  BBs 8th is their best ever here.  I hope they get this sorted since no one will win a world championship by winning 4 races and not making points in 14.

Aprilia:  I see a huge improvement from last year.  If they are clever they will buy out the contract with Savadore (what is he doing there anyway?) and sign Dovi with immediate effect.  Not very loyal, but this is MotoGP not the Voortrekkers or Boys Scouts.

Honda:  Jawellnofine.  Middle of the pack and the kitty litter.  Nakagami who shone for Honda last year is nowhere so far.

Yamaha:  Looking good, but no consistency and still reliability issues?  Poor Morbidelli, who arguably lost out on being champion last year due to a blown engine, already opened his third engine, out of an allocation of 7 this year.  Agreed, the two removed from the bike can still be used at a later stage, if their smoking habit can be resolved, but they were withdrawn for further investigation.  After two races VR46 is equal with Morbidelli in the championship and we know VR did not rip the field apart.  As a Yamaha fan, I hope they can pull it together.  All four bikes.

Ducati:  Again one step ahead now sporting holeshot devices front and rear and some nifty tunnels in their fairing.  Mind blowing top speed, slightly crap in the corners.  Still, they look like contenders this year.  Their factory team just need to get their ducks in a straightish sort of line.    You can't, or shouldn't have to depend on your satellite team to do the winning.

After two races, who would have thought:

- Zarco leading the championship, after being down a deep dark hole with KTM only 18 months ago.
- Bastianinni on a customer Ducati is only 3 points behind Jack Miller on a factory Ducati in the championship.
- Mr Consistent from last year, Alex M must still finish a race this year.
- Rookie Jorge Martin is 7th in the championship.

Roll on Portimao!


Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2021, 09:53:45 am
Someone must have put a spell on him :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Minora Award, Gold to you Sir!   :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: big oil on April 08, 2021, 03:44:40 am
Dear Mr. Bappas,

You are herewith officially informed that the WildDogs MotoGP Arrogant and All Knowing Racing Supporters and Personality Modification Society appointed you, after a unanimous decision, as the official Brad Binder Jinxer.  It is expected that henceforth, you will make some dof remark about said BB33 pulling up his socks prior to every race.  It is expected that, as with this past weekend, this will clearly enhance his position by no less than 10 places on the track.  We expect no less from you during the rest of the season.

Regards
Chairman of the Board

Ha Ha  I am actualy a Big Fan !  Very glad about his performance this weekend! However I still think, although this a personal opinion ! He can do beter with regards to the Bike!

We are all fans, so we will tend to get a tad heated.  He just gave KTM their first ever top 10 finish on the Loseil track and they have been there a few times, so can he do better?  He could, but he is already doing better than most on a KTM.  This doesn't mean he shouldn't improve though.

Just for interest sake, KTM history at Loseil:

2018:  18th and DNF
2019:  12th and 17th
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil
2021 (Race 1):  13th, 14th, 17th and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  8th, 15th, 19th and DNF

 :eek7: :eek7: What, are they on 790's?? :peepwall: :pot: :pot:

Then, so BigOil tells us, it would have been ...

2018:  DNF and DNF
2019:  DNF and DNF
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil, but DNF anyway.
2021 (Race 1):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF

A KTM 790 would have failed inspection and not make it to qualifying.  A 790 would have likely been spewing oil through the countershaft seal or other parts on the racetrack. 

All would have been DQ'd, sayonara.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 08, 2021, 07:51:50 am
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2021, 10:42:43 am
Then, so BigOil tells us, it would have been ...

2018:  DNF and DNF
2019:  DNF and DNF
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil, but DNF anyway.
2021 (Race 1):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF
2021 (Race 2):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF

A KTM 790 would have failed inspection and not make it to qualifying.  A 790 would have likely been spewing oil through the countershaft seal or other parts on the racetrack. 

All would have been DQ'd, sayonara.

Actually, this reminds me.  It would have been:

2018:  DNS and DNS
2019:  DNS and DNS
2020:  No Moto GP at Loseil, but DNS anyway.
2021 (Race 1):  DNS, DNS, DNS and DNS
2021 (Race 2):  DNF, DNF, DNF and DNF

In fact, they would not have offloaded the crates as the riders, managers, mechanics, marketing people would all have been to busy posting their bike woes in social media for @big oil to find and repost on WDs  to do any work.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2021, 11:10:35 am
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 08, 2021, 11:33:18 am
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Who is jackass ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on April 08, 2021, 11:34:23 am
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Sounds like you can't wait for him to return.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 08, 2021, 01:26:47 pm


[/quote]

Who is jackass ?

[/quote]

An Ozzie with a wide red bike?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2021, 02:38:17 pm
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Who is jackass ?

Jack Miller.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2021, 02:39:57 pm
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Sounds like you can't wait for him to return.

Who are you talking about?  Be clear man!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on April 08, 2021, 04:02:31 pm



Who is jackass ?

[/quote]

An Ozzie with a wide red bike?
[/quote]


Who plays bumper cars with rivals.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 08, 2021, 11:23:02 pm
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Who is jackass ?

Jack Miller.
Ah yes dont know why but Miller looks a bit like a twatwaffle, his psyching antics during qualifying and silly moustache does not help  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 09, 2021, 08:32:28 am
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Who is jackass ?

Jack Miller.
Ah yes dont know why but Miller looks a bit like a twatwaffle, his psyching antics during qualifying and silly moustache does not help  >:D

What a judgmental comment - starting to wonder who the twat waffle is  ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 09, 2021, 08:48:28 am
Portimao in Portugal coming up.  This is to replace the GP of the Americas which cannot take place.  Some questions being asked:

- How will the bikes do?  We saw exciting racing end of season last year with MO88 kicking arse all weekend long, but it was at a very different time of year in terms of weather, heat, etc.  This leads to the next question:
- Will the KTMs fly high or crash and burn?  Last year they were 1st (MO), 4th (PE), DNF (BB) and DNS (Lecuona due to Covid).
- Will we see MM93 return?
- Will Jackass be 100% after his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will AM73 and Nakagami manage to stay on their bikes?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will Lecuona recover 100% from his arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- What's with all this arm pump surgery?
- Will MM93 return?
- Will the French attack on the podium continue?
- Will MM93 return?
Who is jackass ?

Jack Miller.
Ah yes dont know why but Miller looks a bit like a twatwaffle, his psyching antics during qualifying and silly moustache does not help  >:D

What a judgmental comment - starting to wonder who the twat waffle is  ::)
Ok lets leave him at jackass then which seems to fly  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Altie7deLaan on April 09, 2021, 08:57:23 am
Ek weet nie of Miller `n jackass is nie.
Maar hy gedra hom partykeer soos `n drol.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: facmp on April 09, 2021, 09:06:31 am
Ek weet nie of Miller `n jackass is nie.
Maar hy gedra hom partykeer soos `n drol. AUSTRALIAN
fixed
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 09, 2021, 09:27:41 am
What a judgmental comment - starting to wonder who the twat waffle is  ::)
Ok lets leave him at jackass then which seems to fly  :thumleft:

It flies because Jackass is a tad like Divebomb for Darryn Binder.  He got the nickname and held on to it.  The Jackass logo is often on his racing leathers and somewhere on the bike and Jack Miller memorabilia is available with his Jackass logo.  I am sure he would love Twatwaffle, but putting such on his leathers would surely cause somewhat of a furor with the powers to be.  :snorting:

(https://www.ladbrokes.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/jackass-the-patch-on-jack-s-leathers.jpg)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on April 09, 2021, 10:03:09 am
I like and rate him.

But us Saffers love to hate Aussies. Probably because they're the closest to us as a type.  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 09, 2021, 02:20:00 pm
I like and rate him.

But us Saffers love to hate Aussies. Probably because they're the closest to us as a type.  :pot:

Yes, that Casey was just as much of a little drol. :pot: :pot:

Not to mention Broc Park, Mick Doohan, Chris Vermeulen, that Doyle guy and Gardner. Horrible people.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: bud500 on April 09, 2021, 02:53:32 pm
I like and rate him.

But us Saffers love to hate Aussies. Probably because they're the closest to us as a type.  :pot:

Yes, that Casey was just as much of a little drol. :pot: :pot:

Not to mention Broc Park, Mick Doohan, Chris Vermeulen, that Doyle guy and Gardner. Horrible people.

Don't forget that bastard Bayliss.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 09, 2021, 03:28:50 pm
I believe they can play some other sports quite well also  ??? :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 09, 2021, 04:11:31 pm
And Troy Corser ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 09, 2021, 04:13:01 pm
Anyway Spanish racers the best
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on April 09, 2021, 07:47:33 pm
And Troy Corser ?

And Andrew Pitt, mentor to many and quite handy on the sticks....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 09, 2021, 10:17:05 pm
Anyway Spanish racers the best

Your Spaneeshboi pole-dancer is warming up  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 09, 2021, 10:35:23 pm
Wow!  It seems you lot cannot stop singing the praises of the men from the land down under.  Keep going and soon you will swap your biltong and droëwors for Vegemite sandwiches and prawns!  You are all so busy singing their praises, you didn't even notice the drunken poster who tried to say Spanish riders are the best.   :snorting:

So, next week the MotoGPs will test on Jerez and Dovi will be riding an Aprilia for the two days.  Aprilias hastily appointed Nr 2 rider, Lorenzo Savadori is not shaping much.  I wonder if Aprilia will give him a WSBK spec Aprilia and send him packing for the Italian SBK championships and appoint Dovi in his place. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 09, 2021, 11:15:44 pm
Anyway Spanish racers the best

Your Spaneeshboi pole-dancer is warming up  :laughing4:
Indeed we need someone to take charge of the field  :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 09, 2021, 11:16:53 pm
Wow!  It seems you lot cannot stop singing the praises of the men from the land down under.  Keep going and soon you will swap your biltong and droëwors for Vegemite sandwiches and prawns!  You are all so busy singing their praises, you didn't even notice the drunken poster who tried to say Spanish riders are the best.   :snorting:

So, next week the MotoGPs will test on Jerez and Dovi will be riding an Aprilia for the two days.  Aprilias hastily appointed Nr 2 rider, Lorenzo Savadori is not shaping much.  I wonder if Aprilia will give him a WSBK spec Aprilia and send him packing for the Italian SBK championships and appoint Dovi in his place.
I have a good feeling about Dovi on the Aprilia
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 09, 2021, 11:21:16 pm
Correction.  The testing at Jerez next week is one of the optional private test sessions, so it is not all of MotoGP that will be there.  It will be Aprilia, Yamaha, Honda and KTM test riders only.  It would still be interesting to see how Dovi's times compare to Kallio, Crutchlow and Bradl.


I have a good feeling about Dovi on the Aprilia

Same here.  I would like to see him back in MotoGP as I have always like him as one of the top riders, but also since Aprilia seems to have upped their game by some margin and young Lorenzi Savadori doesn't really belong in this crowd.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 10, 2021, 09:15:49 am
Well Spaneeshboi will be back next week!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 10, 2021, 09:17:56 am
Start your engine  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 10, 2021, 11:32:22 am
Great hope he wins by 5 seconds at least
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 10, 2021, 12:52:44 pm
Great hope he wins by 5 seconds at least

It is because he was always trying to win by that sort of margin that he was a long-term absentee from MotoGeePee. :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: RobD on April 10, 2021, 12:57:00 pm
Great hope he wins by 5 seconds at least

It is because he was always trying to win by that sort of margin that he was a long-term absentee from MotoGeePee. :biggrin:

Yeah, I think he has now learned that he is fragile like other mere mortals. I doubt he will be the same 93 we were used to seeing... If he returns as before he is an absolute freak! Will be interesting to see his state of mind and physical abilities.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 10, 2021, 12:59:28 pm
Great hope he wins by 5 seconds at least

It is because he was always trying to win by that sort of margin that he was a long-term absentee from MotoGeePee. :biggrin:

Yeah, I think he has now learned that he is fragile like other mere mortals. I doubt he will be the same 93 we were used to seeing... If he returns as before he is an absolute freak! Will be interesting to see his state of mind and physical abilities.

Indeed! Hopefully he has learned that he can actually beat others even when riding within his capabilities. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 10, 2021, 04:14:08 pm
I (and others) have often said that MM93 needs to start understanding that every single crash carries a heck of a lot of risk and that is was just a matter of time before he would suffer a nasty injury.  He got away with it so often that I got the impression he didn't care about crashing anymore.  On the one hand, this was amazing to see, but in the end, he paid an expensive price.  I sincerely hope that he has learned from this experience.  His capabilities on a halfway decent bike will always have him in the running to be champion.  There is seldomly a need to push it beyond the limits as he did.

My one worry is that, after having a champion that " is no champion since MM wasn't there"  according to most MM fans, we will crown a champion at the end of this year who is " no champion since MM wasn't himself yet". 

Whatever happens, I look forward to seeing the little shit back on the track.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 10, 2021, 04:21:45 pm
I think he will be fine ... he will though be a bit shocked that the circus has moved on without him and there are some new clowns on the block ... fast clowns at that!  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: sidetrack on April 10, 2021, 04:54:59 pm
Watch him come back and prove everyone wrong  :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Cracker on April 10, 2021, 05:33:57 pm
Never liked the little bugger ....................... but I'd love him to do just that  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 10, 2021, 06:21:04 pm
Never liked the little bugger ....................... but I'd love him to do just that  :thumleft:

MM has no chance.  In his absence the other Honda riders made those bikes lazy. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 10, 2021, 06:22:20 pm
Watch him come back and prove everyone wrong  :deal:

You have just made a hugely incorrect statement.  It is impossible for him to prove everyone wrong.  You are already excluded, so not everyone anymore.   :lol8:

MM has no chance.  In his absence the other Honda riders made those bikes lazy. :ricky:

I am  not sure Danie.  It seems those Hondas still remember MM well.  Look at how often during the past two race weekends they rolled around in the kitty litter.   >:D

Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: BiG DoM on April 10, 2021, 09:21:51 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 10, 2021, 09:41:54 pm
Dominique!!!

Die sonde darem......

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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: Antonie on April 10, 2021, 11:21:19 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: OomD on April 11, 2021, 12:12:15 pm
As much as I never really warned up to MM93 I'm glad he'll be back. He clearly still has the passion for it, so I think we can expect even more excitement in the next races.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2021
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2021, 12:25:04 pm
As much as I never really warned up to MM93 I'm glad he'll be back. He clearly still has the passion for it, so I think we can expect even more excitement in the next races.

Indeed.  We all have our favourites, but for racing to be really exciting there must be heros and villians and therefore we need different favourites.  Your hero, my villain and vice versa is what make it great.  It is why I feel WSBK is a tad boring at present.  They don't really have heros and villians.

I am not an MM fan either.  Don't get me wrong, I have huge respect for his capabilities, I just like the capabilities of another rider more.  Just one or two .... like ....

BB
VR
AD
JM
AE
PE
AM
JMir
AR
MO
DP
JZ
FB
LM

and one or two others ....   :lol8: