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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 01:11:02 am

Title: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 01:11:02 am
With the death of the R6, will Yamaha be milking the CP2 motor some more??

Some rumours suggest that they might introduce an R7 with this motor.

The 2020 R6 produces about 120hp.

Going from 120hp to 75hp.. must be the same mastermind behind their Dakar efforts.

Let's hope it's just a rumour or that the R7 will have a turbo

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 19, 2021, 06:21:26 am
Het jy al een gery?
Waar bly jy? Jy bly stil! :peepwall:
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 06:45:28 am
Looks like FZ07 on the side, far from an YZF R7
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dwerg on February 19, 2021, 07:17:12 am
Supersports are a thing of the past
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 07:21:06 am
Supersports are a thing of the past

Yes. Even KTM, when they looked for an excuse to discontinue the flop of an RC8, stated that these bikes are too dangerous for the roads.

Then they instead gave riders 150Hp adventure bikes........ :biggrin:

Superbikes are made for cornering, and handling, otherwise they become sports tourers. And as Capetonians know too well, few things will stay with a 50Hp 250 2stroke through the passes. :ricky:

But I guess Dirtwarp want to sit at 300 through the Freestate flats. ::)
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 09:51:09 am
300 on the autobahn

The R6 is such an icon and the supersport class is a welcomed choice for those that don't want the 150++ hp of the litre bikes.

I'm not seeing how this already underpowered parallel twin in the adv class, can hold a candle in supersport.


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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 19, 2021, 10:06:41 am
Why was the R6 pulled? Euro emissions?
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dwerg on February 19, 2021, 10:16:12 am
Supersports are a thing of the past

Why was the R6 pulled? Euro emissions?

The 600 supersport class has been declining for years and is all but disappearing completely
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dwerg on February 19, 2021, 10:24:14 am
Older article if you want some info one why.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/bikes/the-end-is-nigh-is-it-game-over-for-sports-600s
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 19, 2021, 10:32:09 am
Sad really.
Look where that red section sits on the tacho....
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 11:42:37 am
750's now that was a nice size, handling of a 600 but power closer to a 1000. Only Suzuki soldiered on with the GSXR 750.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: BuRP on February 19, 2021, 11:54:50 am
those that don't want the 150++ hp of the litre bikes.

That'll be me then!
A liter was too much for me so I got a "little" 600 CBR RR.
Dropped the gearing by almost 17% so I could use all the gears on most tracks, and hey presto, I could keep up with the 1000's or went past them!  :thumleft:
Few of them really dare to open them up I found out, and in the corners the lesser weight was noticeably quicker.
And also, gravel traps on such a lighter thing were waayy easier to plow through, I've visited many and never dropped it  :P

These days the electronics reign supers into submission, but for me that's confusing: who is doing the actual riding?  ???
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 12:29:06 pm
Sad really.
Look where that red section sits on the tacho....
I raise you 250 4 cylinder rev counter
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 01:14:51 pm
300 on the autobahn

The R6 is such an icon and the supersport class is a welcomed choice for those that don't want the 150++ hp of the litre bikes.

I'm not seeing how this already underpowered parallel twin in the adv class, can hold a candle in supersport.


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The way the class has been declining, perhaps it'll be the only candle?
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 02:12:00 pm
No just let the R6 die with dignity

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 19, 2021, 02:18:14 pm
No just let the R6 die with dignity

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R6 can still be bought here in the UK.. but now its a track only designated bike. Cant be licenced for road use.

And to answer a previous poster. The 600 class is now non existent as the none of the big manufacturers bothered getting the bikes to euro 5 specs. And they did not bother cos the sales were extremely poor in this class. us bikers are getting older an moving to more tourer type bikes cos our bodies dont like being convoluted. Which is a pity cos my RF600 is a machine amongst motorcyles.  the big jap companies stopped developing the 600's years ago so even an older 600 is on par with the ones they sold recently
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 02:22:37 pm
Yes so let's remember the class for what it once was.

The CP02 motor simply does not belong here. IMO

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 02:24:09 pm
2006 R6 was pretty  :drif: Stubby exhaust was born right there.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on February 19, 2021, 02:32:29 pm
What will happen to the Supersport class now in SBK ?
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 03:02:33 pm
Yes so let's remember the class for what it once was.

The CP02 motor simply does not belong here. IMO

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Yamaha is not intending the CP2 engined "R7" to be a replacement for the R6. They may both be roadbikes, but performance wise you cannot compare a twin to a 4-cylinder.

This is quite obvious, or one would think it is.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 04:33:01 pm
As long as they don't name it an R7 as that will be mutton dressed as lamb

i thought that was the obvious argument of this topic

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 04:42:29 pm
As long as they don't name it an R7 as that will be mutton dressed as lamb

i thought that was the obvious argument of this topic

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There is no existing model called the "R7", it was an old 750/4 sold by Yam to give Haga a bike to race on, so if they call the CP2 a "R7", it would make all the sense in the world.

T7=D/s

R7=roadbike.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: AfricaOffroad on February 19, 2021, 06:05:17 pm
The 600 super sport bikes got smaller and smaller. Would love one but I just canít fit the seating position. My 99 Aprillia RS125 has more room on it than a modern super sport. Love those peaky 600 motors though
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 07:50:31 pm
As long as they don't name it an R7 as that will be mutton dressed as lamb

i thought that was the obvious argument of this topic

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There is no existing model called the "R7", it was an old 750/4 sold by Yam to give Haga a bike to race on, so if they call the CP2 a "R7", it would make all the sense in the world.

T7=D/s

R7=roadbike.

R = road bike??
The R-line is a no compromise race bike, made road legal.


So it's not the 7, it's the R

R1 and R6 were thoroughbred race bikes.
This R7?
I'm a real fan of the R-line bikes and naming this anemic in comparison specimen an "R", is a slap in the face.

Seems to me you should pitch in on their Dakar strategic planning sessions, you certainly think like they do

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 08:19:36 pm
Next we'll have Dirtwarp moan about the naming of the R3 after the thoroughbred race lineage of Yamaha's R's.

Though in a way I agree with you DW, the CP2 does not seem fit to run with the real R's, although in a top handling package, we may be surprised at how well it could go.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 19, 2021, 08:32:09 pm
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 08:37:29 pm
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 19, 2021, 08:50:00 pm
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 19, 2021, 10:05:11 pm
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 19, 2021, 10:43:06 pm
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Maar jy hou mos van sukkel.
900km in een dag op n XT

Die res van ons gebruik eerder die regte tool vir die job.

'n bobbejaan spanner is handig ja, maar op die einde van die dag, is dit n spanner wat deur n bobbejaan gedraai word.

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 20, 2021, 07:09:08 am
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".

Ek dink nie jy verkies heel OK wees nie.
Vee maar eerder hierdie stelling uit.
En dan kom post jy dit die dag as jy die 701 verkoop het, en net met jou XT600 rondry. :pot:
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 20, 2021, 08:13:06 am
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Maar jy hou mos van sukkel.
900km in een dag op n XT

Die res van ons gebruik eerder die regte tool vir die job.

'n bobbejaan spanner is handig ja, maar op die einde van die dag, is dit n spanner wat deur n bobbejaan gedraai word.

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Net jammer jy kan nie 900km op n dag doen op jou "regte tool vir die job" nie.

En dis net in KTM werkswinkels waar n spanner deur n bobbejaan gedraai word. En clutchplate met skuurpapier "gediens" word. ::)

En Yamaha hoef nie vir jou te vra of hulle n bike n "R" mag nowm nie. :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 20, 2021, 09:32:17 am


Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Maar jy hou mos van sukkel.
900km in een dag op n XT

Die res van ons gebruik eerder die regte tool vir die job.

'n bobbejaan spanner is handig ja, maar op die einde van die dag, is dit n spanner wat deur n bobbejaan gedraai word.

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Net jammer jy kan nie 900km op n dag doen op jou "regte tool vir die job" nie.

En dis net in KTM werkswinkels waar n spanner deur n bobbejaan gedraai word. En clutchplate met skuurpapier "gediens" word. ::)

En Yamaha hoef nie vir jou te vra of hulle n bike n "R" mag nowm nie. :imaposer: :imaposer:


Inteendeel, die 990 was die regte tool vir die job en veel meer as 900km is met hom in 1 dag gery.

Maar ek sien jy trek alweer KTM in n Yamaha verhaal in.. dink aan jou blou onderbroekie, fokus op die onderwerp
:thumleft:

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 20, 2021, 10:52:28 am
OK, it is very important for you to deminish the CP2 engine, and this is evident on the T7 thread as well.

But let's look at the facts......in 1992 Carl Fogarty took the venerable Yamaha 750 OW-01 around the IOM at an average speed of 122mph, a record that stood for SEVEN years.

In 2015, 23 years later, James Hillier took a Suzuki SV650 V-twin to an average speed of 120.8mph, just 2mph shy of the R7 record of the 90's.

Say the "R7" can do no better than the SV650, then it still remains a highly respectable time around the mountain course.

The "R7", while it cannot hold a candle to Yamaha's razor-blade sharp R6, will still be a formidable tool, given it's easy to ride engine, and a capable chassis.

Lastly, at least wait till the 'r7" is out to denounce it as "mutton dressed up as lamb".

Orange panty.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 20, 2021, 01:20:34 pm

Some more Hilux drivel.

130hp vs 75..
Don't hold your breath

"orange panty"?
Jy nie enige oorspronklike grappe van jou eie nie?
:imaposer:

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 20, 2021, 02:36:17 pm
All Yam models brought to ZA should have some R in front of its model name.
Not so much R for fast, but for the premium Rands they get on the price tag.
Ek is nou so verveeld, niks clutch plate om te skuur nie. :ricky:
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 20, 2021, 02:43:35 pm
The two of you, Laurel and Hardy, go read my post reply#33, and come tell me again how the CP2 engined roadbike will be a disgrace to the R7?

Yamaha knows what they are doing, and doing it so well, for 60 years already, that they can now put Toyota-like premiums on their products.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on February 20, 2021, 03:15:31 pm
The two of you, Laurel and Hardy, go read my post reply#33, and come tell me again how the CP2 engined roadbike will be a disgrace to the R7?

Yamaha knows what they are doing, and doing it so well, for 60 years already, that they can now put Toyota-like premiums on their products.

Ok, ok, calm down Benny Hill.
Your R7 will be as fast as that totally stock standard SV650 of James Hillier.
Hell, even faster, this is a Yamaha.
I would call it Legend70.
Legendary 70 Hp.
Will also last 70 years.
Toyota will just have to skip their 70 year anniversary Hilux.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on February 20, 2021, 05:54:00 pm
OK, it is very important for you to deminish the CP2 engine, and this is evident on the T7 thread as well.

But let's look at the facts......in 1992 Carl Fogarty took the venerable Yamaha 750 OW-01 around the IOM at an average speed of 122mph, a record that stood for SEVEN years.

In 2015, 23 years later, James Hillier took a Suzuki SV650 V-twin to an average speed of 120.8mph, just 2mph shy of the R7 record of the 90's.

Say the "R7" can do no better than the SV650, then it still remains a highly respectable time around the mountain course.

The "R7", while it cannot hold a candle to Yamaha's razor-blade sharp R6, will still be a formidable tool, given it's easy to ride engine, and a capable chassis.

Lastly, at least wait till the 'r7" is out to denounce it as "mutton dressed up as lamb".

Orange panty.

OK as requested I've read #33 again.
In the T7 thread, I was diminishing the 'kadwaa!!' suspension more than anything else, followed by its ridiculous price.

How can the CP2, disguised as a modern-day R7 be a disgrace?
You might still be rocking your 92' velskoens, but the world has moved on since '92, an era when this was the style of the day:
(https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_fill,dpr_auto,f_auto,q_90,w_1400/fl_lossy,pg_1/pwcsf5zif5ztg5pmtbdy/90-greatest-90s-fashion-strap-down-overalls)

I sure as shit wont subscribe to a performance package that dates from '92 at a price tag, and you can quote me on this, that will be as ridiculous as the T7's   
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 20, 2021, 08:04:59 pm
But you certainly fight for a brand with 1929 reliability figures. :imaposer:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on May 18, 2021, 11:50:05 pm
Sadly, It's as I had thought:
https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/yamaha-r7-specs-and-features

Kyk, hy's wel mooi, maar met net 75hp, is dit n klein tottie wat alleen maar stink soos n grote

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Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dux on May 19, 2021, 05:51:48 am
Letís be honest , how many people can ride a modern 1000 to its potential on the roads , most do not have the skill , road conditions mostly donít allow it , something like this is probably a more controllable and safer bike if the riders can get over their egoís .
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: blauth on May 19, 2021, 06:24:57 am
I can't help but think that some of the most obvious points are being missed.

- The 600cc supersport class has been waning for long time. 1000cc bikes are now lurking around the 300k mark. Who's going to pay close to that for the smaller class? Not many as the market has illustrated.
- For the same reasons that KTM are moving away from v-twins, manufacturers are trying to find ways to keep bikes affordable. With all the additional cost of rider AIDS (traction control, abs, tilt control, wheelie control, quick shifters etc), the costs have to be reigned in somewhere else to keep the bikes affordable and still make a profit.
- The CP2 engine and mid-capacity twins are actually way better on the road compared to a the older supersports that develop power north of 10000rpm.
- The adv segment has been the fastest growing segment for years.....for logical reasons. They suite everyday use and road use from traffic to touring 600 times better than a supersport 600.

Personally, I think supersports have one place and only one place, a race track.

The intro of the R7 and Aprillia RS660 are welcome and moto journo's are raving about the RS660.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on May 19, 2021, 07:38:43 am
This will be a new segment with no comparison, like the T700?
The RS660 makes 99 hp and the 765 RS makes 125hp.
Yes, I know the Z1 900 made 80 odd horsepower, but that was 1972.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 19, 2021, 08:33:55 am
What a beautiful machine!
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: BuRP on May 19, 2021, 11:24:07 am
hy's wel mooi, maar met net 75hp, is dit n klein tottie wat alleen maar stink soos n grote

Kleurvolle (geurvolle?) taal, effens kras, maar wel n oor-oorduidelike omskrywing!

Die wail van n 600/4 wat sy conrods amper gooi laat n man moerlekker kry, en met n heelwat korter gearing bly jy by die 1000's op kort bane as jy bedrewe raak met die ratte, maar inni draaie score jy omdat die ding ligter is. Ook, as jy al klaar op jou oor le dan is n foutjie nie so gevaarlik soos met n 1000 nie, jou bande kan gewoonlik meer hanteer as wat die enjin lewer.
Dit maak die SS klas nie intimiderend nie en relatief veilig, dit terwyl die SB's 'teveel' vir meeste ouens is - kom nou, wie maak n 1000 rerig oop op n baan?
Nie ek nie, ek's bang vir die goed - en ek weet, alli elektronika hou dit teenwoordig bikie binne perke.... maar wie ry dan eintlik, ek of die CPU?
Ek het nie n 1000 nodig om te 'wys' nie, ek het klaar n groot tot  :P

Nou kom daar n 700-twin vir die baan, met dus n heelwat hoer koppel om jou agterband onder jou gat uit te trek.
As daai ding nie fancy rekenaarfunksies het nie sal manne die kittylitter gaan besoek, HKGK, selfs met sy baiebaiebeskeie kraglewering!
My beskeie mening is dat die fiets nie n groot fanbase sal maak nie, laat staan n resurrection van die klas sal teweeg bring.

Ou Haga jong, ek sal jou altyd onthou as jy jou ellemboe sleep oppi teer, magtig dit was n pragtige vertoning!
Never to be repeated, en hierdie fietsie beter 'Tam7' gedoop gaan word  :thumleft:
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: blauth on May 19, 2021, 11:48:29 am
I was behind a KTM890 duke type bike on the track the other day and in the correct hands, that thing hustles. I've decided to try smaller on the track. Going from Ducati 1098 to Triumph 675. It's going to be a learning experience me thinks....I'm really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: BuRP on May 19, 2021, 12:03:12 pm
I was behind a KTM890 duke type bike on the track the other day and in the correct hands .....

Lol blauth, that's FIFTY percent up on power than the Tam7!  :P

But yeah, a 'handy' rider can put things in perspective, or humuliate depending on one's character  :o
I remember I was going 'lekker' on Swartkops, and next a chap on a Suzi TL1000 (the one with the notoriously bad rotary rear shock/damper!) bumbled past on the inside without any obvious ado, and smoothly disappeared into the distance!  :lol8:
Spoke to the guy later, a young relaxed dude having limited means and loving tracks, so he just made do with what he had.
And make do he did - some guys have it, and I concluded I did not.
Mind, we both had our fun, the only thing that counts!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 19, 2021, 03:56:52 pm
Die manne wat so tekere gaan oor die min krag van die R7 is wat ons in bike terme na verwys as "straightliners".

Hulle het die groot krag nodig om op die straights inte haal wat hulle in die draaie verloor. :imaposer:

Die 790 Duke, n vol 800cc fiets, haal 100kmh in 3.3 sekondes.

Die MT-07, n fiets van 689cc, haal 100kmh in 3.7 sekondes.

Skryf die verskil af aan 110cc verskil. :thumleft: :thumleft:

Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on May 19, 2021, 07:14:18 pm
Vertel dit vir die TAMaha ouens wanneer Jack Miller hul op die back straight laat lyk of hul vir parking soek.

0-100 beteken minder as 100-200

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Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 19, 2021, 07:21:05 pm
Vertel dit vir die TAMaha ouens wanneer Jack Miller hul op die back straight laat lyk of hul vir parking soek.

0-100 beteken minder as 100-200

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Maar daai ouens is ongelukkig nie op R7's nie. :deal:

Perhaps you should use your wonder KTM's in this MotoGP example? :biggrin: They're still racing from last Sunday...... :snorting:
Title: Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dux on May 19, 2021, 08:11:34 pm
I was behind a KTM890 duke type bike on the track the other day and in the correct hands, that thing hustles. I've decided to try smaller on the track. Going from Ducati 1098 to Triumph 675. It's going to be a learning experience me thinks....I'm really looking forward to it.
The 675 has always been an amazing bike , much more midrange than the 600s make it a lot easier to ride , and the sound is just to die for
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on May 19, 2021, 08:35:00 pm
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

:peepwall:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 20, 2021, 07:17:14 am
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

:peepwall:

 :3some:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: blauth on May 20, 2021, 07:20:32 am
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

:peepwall:

 :3some:

 :pot:   :imaposer:    The red flag, she no working.....  >:D
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 20, 2021, 07:38:44 am
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

:peepwall:

 :3some:

 :pot:   :imaposer:    The red flag, she no working.....  >:D

I know Altus too well. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: BuRP on May 26, 2021, 11:34:13 pm
So it doesn't matter what gear you're in........ that's not a trackday bike then?

Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: blauth on May 27, 2021, 03:00:00 pm
Burp, I thought that was a pretty shitty review actually. The one from Cyclenews was much better and you could see the guy was way more experienced and spoke more sense.

&t=574s

Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 27, 2021, 04:21:11 pm
In 1969 Yamaha rewrote the books regarding "dualsport" machines with their DT-1.

In 1975 Yamaha rewrote the books regarding "thumpers"with their XT500.

In 1998 Yamaha rewrote the rule books regarding 4stroke offroad competition bikes with their YZ400F.

All these great andinnovative moments came along when a forward thinking company saw that things cannot stay the way they are.

Which brings us to the 2021 R7 Yamaha, a new direction for sportbikes.

Mark my words, Yamaha is being trendsetting again.
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: BuRP on May 27, 2021, 05:42:06 pm
Yamaha is being trendsetting again.

Not with the Tam7 Dan, wishful thinking...... like the below?


Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 27, 2021, 06:49:12 pm
Bart, think about it. Why is the Superbike market waning, so much that the 600 production is being ceased?

The R7 may seem very dull now, but in the right hands it is clearly fast on a track, without wearing out the top of your left boot-tip.

I think Yamaha is sensing the shift.

Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on May 27, 2021, 07:42:54 pm
Hy's mooi, lyk moer stadig en of hy meer suspension travel kan hÍ as die T7

As dit Tamaha se idee was om my te noop na die sportbike kant toe, slaag hul nie.

Ek hou maar eerder by my 81 xv750

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Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on May 27, 2021, 08:02:57 pm
Mense het keuses.
Jy kan na die Yamaha verkoopsman se deuntjie luister oor in die regte hande is die R7 n vinnige perd.
Of jy kan  by Suzuki instap en n 148hp 750 koop.
Of net langsaan 'n 125 hp street triple.
Ek kan maar net wonder watter perverse premie ons in SA sal betaal vir hierdie nuwe rocket. :ricky:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 27, 2021, 10:44:53 pm
Mense het keuses.
Jy kan na die Yamaha verkoopsman se deuntjie luister oor in die regte hande is die R7 n vinnige perd.
Of jy kan  by Suzuki instap en n 148hp 750 koop.
Of net langsaan 'n 125 hp street triple.
Ek kan maar net wonder watter perverse premie ons in SA sal betaal vir hierdie nuwe rocket. :ricky:

In die verkeerde hande is die 750 Suzuki n donkie.

Dis alles oor hande, Altie. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on May 27, 2021, 11:25:43 pm
hp/R moet jy ignoreer as die bike blou is.

Jy't belangriker dinge om op te moet fokus; soos hoe diep jou blou safari pak se sakke is.

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Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 28, 2021, 06:45:06 am
hp/R moet jy ignoreer as die bike blou is.

Jy't belangriker dinge om op te moet fokus; soos hoe diep jou blou safari pak se sakke is.

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Of jou oranje tronk-oorpak? :biggrin:

Die blou fiets is net eenmaal duur.......
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on May 28, 2021, 07:30:42 am
Ons tronkvoels sal nooit sukkel met rugpyn nie.
Al die gebuk om die olie level te check hou n man se rug in oefening..... :lol8:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 28, 2021, 07:58:09 am
Ons tronkvoels sal nooit sukkel met rugpyn nie.
Al die gebuk om die olie level te check hou n man se rug in oefening..... :lol8:

En ons bene bly sterk soos ons die kragtige Yamaha;s deur die sand moet help..... :imaposer:

Health-bikes. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dwerg on May 28, 2021, 09:21:28 am
Bart, think about it. Why is the Superbike market waning, so much that the 600 production is being ceased?

The R7 may seem very dull now, but in the right hands it is clearly fast on a track, without wearing out the top of your left boot-tip.

I think Yamaha is sensing the shift.

So what is the Aprilia 660 then?
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dwerg on May 28, 2021, 09:42:46 am
But yeah no ok Yahama are geniuses!! How do they come up with this stuff!!
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on May 28, 2021, 10:32:04 am
T7 genoeg geboelie nou beweeg julle aan na die R7, nee sies man  :pot:
This CP2 motor is something special it works really well in just about any type of bike  :drif:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Dwerg on May 28, 2021, 11:18:08 am
This CP2 motor is something special it works really well in just about any type of bike  :drif:

That we can all agree about  :thumleft:

But if this is groundbreaking then the Hyosung 650GT was marvel and way ahead of it's time
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on May 28, 2021, 12:15:16 pm
T7 genoeg geboelie nou beweeg julle aan na die R7, nee sies man  :pot:
This CP2 motor is something special it works really well in just about any type of bike  :drif:
Is alleen die benaming wat my dwars sit.
As hul hom RT-07 of iets genoem het, het ek nie my bek gerek nie.

In my opinie was die R7 een van die beste bikes ooit. N ware no compromise race bike.

Maar nou ja, hier is ons nou.
n R7 met Hyosung gt650 specs.

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Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on May 28, 2021, 12:20:51 pm
Wat weer uitgemaak word as Yamaha se geniale deurbraak.

Nes hul 5 jaar laat yz400f 'deurbraak'

Kom ons gee hul krediet vir hul bemarking en politieke spel in die AMA.

Hul is lank nie die voorloper op tegnologie nie.

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Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: sidetrack on May 28, 2021, 12:44:18 pm
Nog voor die R7 was die YZF750 ook n spesiale resiesperd wat in min getalle en teen n stywe prys verkoop het.
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 28, 2021, 07:16:29 pm
Wat weer uitgemaak word as Yamaha se geniale deurbraak.

Nes hul 5 jaar laat yz400f 'deurbraak'

Kom ons gee hul krediet vir hul bemarking en politieke spel in die AMA.

Hul is lank nie die voorloper op tegnologie nie.

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Yamaha hoef nie voorlopers in tegnologie te wees nie. Hulle bou hul bikes so goed, dit maak op.
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: blauth on May 31, 2021, 10:48:37 am
You okes are being unkind to this R7......it will be great for pizza delivery  &  first time riders      :thumleft:

In all seriousness, I think Yamaha are aiming this as an entry level track bike and in that I think it will be great for inexperienced riders getting into track riding. The mid level suspension is a giveaway as to their intentions.

Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: voorvel on June 14, 2021, 08:38:27 pm
The track-only version of the Aprilia RS660 is now available to buy from the Factory Works website
105hp uit sy parallel twin.

Hy gaan hierdie R7 jammer maak.

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Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 15, 2021, 07:21:48 am
The track-only version of the Aprilia RS660 is now available to buy from the Factory Works website
105hp uit sy parallel twin.

Hy gaan hierdie R7 jammer maak.

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Maar gaan hy die R6 jammer maak?  Is dit nie eintlik jou punt hier nie? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
Post by: Altie7deLaan on June 15, 2021, 09:38:58 am
Pfft die R6 is mos outyds, die moderne man wil mos nie sy linker boot uitwerk nie?
Dit  is juis om hierdie rede dat Yamaha die revolusie in die vorm van die R7 uit gebring het.... :peepwall: