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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => Honda CR / CRF / Africa Twin 1000 => Topic started by: teebag on April 27, 2021, 06:40:16 pm

Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on April 27, 2021, 06:40:16 pm
After a short hiatus on the other "H" brand I collected this on Friday from the Tygerberg Honda team  :ricky:



Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: Kobus Myburgh on April 27, 2021, 07:07:55 pm
After a short hiatus on the other "H" brand I collected this on Friday from the Tygerberg Honda team  :ricky:

Congrats JT.  Now tell us what it is.  :sip:
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: sidetrack on April 28, 2021, 08:42:27 am
Congrats do you still have the 690 ?
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: teebag on April 28, 2021, 10:15:00 am
Thanks guys.

No, I sold the 701 in Feb
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: Dux on April 28, 2021, 10:16:03 am
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on April 28, 2021, 10:25:24 am
CRF 300L?
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 28, 2021, 10:50:59 am
Come on TEEEE, done leave us hanging.

Whatcha get?.. it does look like the 300L
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: teebag on April 28, 2021, 11:44:05 am
I 1st rode this bike back when it launched in Feb 2019, and I so wanted to like it, so wanted it to work, but the performance was just not there, I just couldn't understand how Honda had made this new 450 with the same power as my 250 Rally  ??? , the way the power was delivered was different and the bike had many plus points, but also just a few too many negatives - such as the 8l fuel tank.  So I returned after the demo ride somewhat disappointed, handed back the keys and put it out of my mind.

At the time I wrote this, somewhere here:
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Ok I rode it, and in summary forget the spec sheet and go ride it. I have 24k km on the CRF250Rally so I feel I am qualified to make a comparison. Both have around 24hp so they should be similar right? Nope the 450 has toque that I wish was available in the 250, it pulls stronger everywhere right to the top end of about 125-130 kph (and my 250 is not stock, taller gearing, fmf, airbox mods so it is livelier than the stock one). It's lighter and more nimble, more fun to throw around and easier to keep on track. The suspension actually works. The seat is a plank, the stock tyres are average, but the same that come on the 250 so changing those should make a huge difference. On the highway the 450 is not as planted as the 250 and feels a little twitchy. The 450 will crash better. The 450 is quiet, in a pleasing kind of way.  Yes it could have more power, but is is still quick, and I am sure in time there will be options to free a couple more ponies.

I eventually sold the Rally after putting about 30k km on it in 2 years of ownership, Honda certainly know how to make solid little bikes, the CRF250/300 models should give many years of outstanding service provided they are shown a little love every now and again.

Experience has taught me, I don't enjoy big (200kg+) twins off-road, they are all incredible machines, but I am no Tarres or Birch and they are not for me. So my attention turned to the 500/501-690/701 range and for various reasons I ended up with a "lightly" used 2019 701 Enduro.  (fun fact, it's the tallest 701 they ever made and the 1st to replace the 4CS forks with the Xplor48) I owned that for just over a year for much of which a small virus managed to interfere with our riding plans, but that aside I did manage to put about 9k km on the clock.  I kitted it a little, and replaced the clutch slave seal as preventative maintenance. Incredible machine, hated the suspension and wrestled with the idea of spending almost half the value of the bike to make it work  :-\  (there are cheaper options, but I know how it goes, you start cheap and then more often than not end up back at the expensive choice). 

Apart from sheer enjoyment of nature, freedom and wide open spaces riding alone in remote places, at times one thinks, if this thing stops, can I get it going again.  Despite being fairly technical and with the KTM/Husq reputation I often doubted the answer would be yes.  (I don't want to start a brand bashing thread, these engines are amazing, they are highly tuned and highly strung and there are many documented cases of fuel pump failures, water pump failures, excessive oil consumption, and even total engine failures).

Fast forward to Jan this year, and I see an ad somewhere saying that the 450L was now available with an uprated ECU.  I contacted Jonathan at Tygerberg and confirmed it was in fact the case and they had a demo available, and that is how I found myself, bright and early the following Saturday morning collecting the bike for a 2nd test ride.

After the experience I wrote this here:
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Rode it again, this time with the US intake and ecu - a much better experience.

And this over on Instagram:
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Second chances - now this is how Honda intended this bike to perform #gorideit #hondacrf450l - thanks to Johann Botha and the team from #hondatygerberg for the opportunity.

Let's just say the bike is transformed and you can't really compare.

And so I started reading the "HONDA CRF450L MEGA THREAD" over on AdvRider which is now 777 pages or 15,535 posts long :o - A wealth of information on this little machine, and in comparison to the "Husqvarna 701 Super Moto and Enduro!" thread (1893 pages) on the same forum is not filled with questions on reliability and return trips to the dealer.

Early Feb and Hardy contacted me to see if I could drum up some interest in a small pre-launch demo of the 300L, an event which allowed me to ride that, the 701 and the 450L back-to-back.  This was to be my 3rd experience on the 450l and this time on the MTB tracks and trails of Kaleo Guest Farm, familiar ground for previous Quest Bootcamp participants. It's was this ride that made up my mind to sell the 701 and order a 450 from Tygerberg.

The Husqvarna sold quickly for pretty much what I paid for it and an order was placed with Jonathan, anyway enough ramblings for now - I finally collected it on Monday  :ricky:

To be continued...
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 28, 2021, 11:50:41 am
Safe travels on it Teebag!! :thumleft: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: Dorsland on April 28, 2021, 11:51:28 am
Damn, I was going to say a 450 when I looked closely at your first pic.  I could have won the free weekend in Port Nolloth if I'd had teh courage of my conviction to post here.

Very nice bike, be good to read some feedback as you get (s)miles on it.
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: Dorsland on April 28, 2021, 11:52:23 am
When I buy mine shortly after retiring, 1st mod will be gold rims.  :peepwall: :lol8:  Black doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: stcomza on April 28, 2021, 12:34:47 pm

Just a little jealous...there, I said it  :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: BliknÍrs on April 28, 2021, 01:21:03 pm
Lekker bike if or when I sell my 450x this would replace it.
Many happy kilos.
A fuel bladder only costs R600 or so.
Cycling pants about the same.
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on April 28, 2021, 01:45:29 pm
Lekker bike if or when I sell my 450x this would replace it.
Many happy kilos.
A fuel bladder only costs R600 or so.
Cycling pants about the same.
...on the comment about fuel bladders: our 450L luggage racks will now come supplied with a mounting plate, to fit a Pioneer Plastics 5L fuel cell or Pioneer Plastics water cell.

We can debate the merits of fuel that far back, etc, just know that it is now possible to FIT extra fuel to the luggage rack, and we have done same with the 250L luggage rack, 250 Rally luggage rack, and have JUST done the same with the 300L luggage rack...

Cheers
Chris & Team
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: big oil on April 28, 2021, 02:22:17 pm
Sweet bike, enjoy!
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: El Zeffo on April 28, 2021, 02:26:11 pm
Lekker Tbag
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: deapsquatter on April 28, 2021, 02:58:12 pm
Fantastic motorcycle  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: teebag on April 28, 2021, 04:02:07 pm
It's all your fault  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on April 28, 2021, 04:05:00 pm
Congrats, may happy km
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: sidetrack on April 28, 2021, 04:05:28 pm
Service intervals ? I'm of the opinion one can do 2000km easily and not worry too much about what is stated in the manual.
Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: teebag on April 28, 2021, 04:13:07 pm
Depends on riding conditions, but yes most owners are now pushing the oil changes out, several in the US have be doing detailed oil analysis with Blackstone for each oil change and made the decision after consistent results from repeated tests.


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Title: Re: Back to Honda
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 28, 2021, 04:27:39 pm
Depends on riding conditions, but yes most owners are now pushing the oil changes out, several in the US have be doing detailed oil analysis with Blackstone for each oil change and made the decision after consistent results from repeated tests.


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Congrats Tbag, gr8 choice

Interesting you mention the oil testing, I have serviced my pick up truck yesterday here in the US and they do a sample test and then give recommendations based on that. Some engines they advise to stop running like when they get antifreeze and some sort of metals in the sample. They also the recommend your oil service intervals based on the metals they find in the oil.
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on April 28, 2021, 04:48:25 pm
1st world countries hey. 

Not one of the guys testing, noted higher than expected metals, but some recorded unburnt fuel when using a Vortex ECU - and the recommendation that comes with that is to lower the service intervals, as the oil is becoming diluted, and therefore less effective.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on April 29, 2021, 01:27:02 pm
As mentioned previously the decision to re-visit this bike was based on Honda ZA offering the option of having the US ECU fitted as part of the deal.  However it is not just the ECU that makes the difference between the 2 versions of this machine.  From what I have found out reading the various forums, both the US and AUS (which got the same version we did) the main differences are:


Honda SA replace the 1st 2 and most in the US remove the 3rd completely when fitting aftermarket tuners.

Before taking delivery the ECU and Air intake boot were replaced with the US equivalent.

In days past you could just remove or drill any restrictions in the intake airflow, but that is no longer an option as Honda use a completely different moulding.  The 1st 2 pictures are the EU/Asia/Africa intake and the last one is the US version.  No pics of the ECU because apart from the P/N they look identical.




 
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 29, 2021, 01:49:12 pm
Lekker T

I've been eyeing out this bike as well.. very capable bike.

Congrats.. lets hook up for a ride in Parklands sometime
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: XRRX on April 30, 2021, 07:31:44 am
Congrats and many smiles!!!  :thumleft: :thumleft:
These are awesome bikes!!!
Just open up that exhaust a bit - you'll be surprised... ;)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: WynandV on April 30, 2021, 08:58:25 am
I bought a new CRF450L with US spec ecu.
I should have rather bought the Vortex ecu instead of US spec.
The stock US spec ecu has a really bad on - off throttle response. Not so much noticeable on the road, but terrible in slow technical riding.

 
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on April 30, 2021, 09:12:38 am
Yes, well documentedÖ but for me the Vortex is the last resort as it introduces other issues - if it could be tuned properly without having to buy the additional $700 software then it would be a no brainer.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: XRRX on April 30, 2021, 09:29:31 am
Yes, well documentedÖ but for me the Vortex is the last resort as it introduces other issues - if it could be tuned properly without having to buy the additional $700 software then it would be a no brainer.
I don't know what the experts will say, but I fitted a Boosterplug to my son's 450, EU ECU, opened exhaust and a small increase in the inlet rubber - transformed the bike completely!! No more on-off throttle!!
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: OomD on April 30, 2021, 09:29:59 am
What a nice bike, and definitely one I'd consider some point in the future. Many happy (s)miles!

A thought... you appear to have moved away from the 701 due to reliability, wondering how you would get it going again if it stopped out somewhere. How is this bike better, in that regard, it is all electronic as well? Or is it purely a reliability thing, Honda being known not to break down as much?
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on April 30, 2021, 09:47:55 am
Yes it has electronics, all modern bikes do, but looking at the wiring diagram tells me it is a whole lot simpler when compared to the 701.  The actual systems required to keep the bike running are less intricate, closer to a 500 but with a quality weather sealed wiring harness

And that perceived reliability thing you mentioned.

The 701 is the pinnacle of single cylinder engine development, with each generation refined to extract more power. The 450 is a proven competition engine, that has been de-tuned, adapted and strengthened for the intended use.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 01, 2021, 06:24:09 pm
I wonder how much money motorcycle manufacturers actually save using a small paintbrush to apply grease to bearings and shafts  ::) Maybe itís just they know they will make easy money with servicing and spares if they are frugal with the lubrication, and itís not just Honda before anyone starts pointing fingers.

With winter coming, I thought it may be a good idea to have a poke around and add a little quality grease of my own, too keep the wheels turning a little longer, so to speak - wheels, steering and suspension.

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 03, 2021, 02:03:27 pm
Fitted a set of Motoz Tractionator RallZ

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: BullSmit on May 03, 2021, 04:40:32 pm
Nice rubber!

That li'l 300 is gonna hook up nicely... On the dirt!!
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 03, 2021, 05:05:06 pm
itís a 450 at least I hope it is
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Mapog on May 03, 2021, 08:30:40 pm
TB
So what did you pay?
Did they include all the goodies for R125k?

I believe this bike has been discontinued by Honda SA?
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 03, 2021, 08:35:29 pm
Lets just say I got a very good deal

The L is not being sold by Honda anywhere, it has been replaced by the RL (cosmetic updates) in the States, currently the only place it is available. Not sure of the plans for the rest of the World.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 08, 2021, 03:51:50 pm
1st ride done, now the mods can begin

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 10, 2021, 07:26:58 pm
1st thing fit some FatBars

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: BullSmit on May 11, 2021, 01:11:24 pm
itís a 450 at least I hope it is

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Age is a bitch, hey!

Apologies.

Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 16, 2021, 06:27:23 pm
One of the features of this bike is the extra effort Honda went to, to make it quiet. Unfortunately some of these measures are better in theory than in practice, the engine has extra plastic side covers which will probably help prevent scuffing and scratches from light impact, so they will stay for now.

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They are however lined with open cell foam and this is know to retain moisture and dust, ultimately causing corrosion to form out of sight under the covers.  The solution - remove the foam.

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I havenít ridden the bike off road or washed the bike yet, even so there was moisture present when I removed the covers.

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 19, 2021, 05:59:21 pm
More preventative maintenance, dielectric grease in all the connections, helps prevent corrosion of the terminals - although in comparison to the 701 the Hondas electrics are pretty well weather sealed from the factory.

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Also took the chance to reroute the negative lead to the correct position, I assume the battery is installed after the bike is un-created.

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And a quick pic of the US ECU while iím in there - told ya they all look the same

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And finally removed some wiring and switches that are not really required, except by EU legislators. Also compared to the Husqvarna no dongles required.

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Iíll say more on the one on the left in my next update.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Dorsland on May 19, 2021, 07:10:33 pm
Wash your hands man. O0 :biggrin:  You are giving Honda a bad name.  Before long Honda and LandRover will be mentioned in the same sentence. :lol8:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 19, 2021, 08:03:45 pm
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There - is that better
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 20, 2021, 08:26:22 am
Replaced the rear brake switch with a hydraulic one, neatens things up and less moving parts.
 
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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on May 20, 2021, 08:34:24 am
Hi Bud - just a heads-up that I have had protective FRAME decals cut, for the CRF 300L frame, left and right - would like you to try out a pair, if you would, before we manufacture them...
(they are BLACK purely to show up against the GREY frame where they made need alteration - finals will be CLEAR...)

Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 20, 2021, 08:40:24 am
eish oom different bike
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on May 20, 2021, 08:47:33 am
eish oom different bike
DAMN! Where is the Facepalm emoji when I need it!  :o

OK, moving on..... :imaposer:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on May 20, 2021, 08:48:38 am
...note to self - do not post simultaneously, whilst on a speaker-phone call.... :P
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 20, 2021, 09:03:13 am
just glad you are enjoying the thread
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on May 20, 2021, 09:08:11 am
just glad you are enjoying the thread
always, lots to learn, and I am learning lots!
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Dorsland on May 20, 2021, 10:22:11 am
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There - is that better

Looks like a Honda factory engineer's hands now  :biggrin:

Quick hijack if I may.  It's clearly the same pic so how the hell did you do that?  Photoshop?  I could use that trick before coming home for lunch some days.  :lol8:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 20, 2021, 10:29:16 am
A quick (10 second) snapseed edit on the phone before posting - these are not meant to be works of art, and I like the grungy feel for wrenching pics  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: sidetrack on May 20, 2021, 10:30:05 am
Your 300L is looking good  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 20, 2021, 10:31:06 am
 :imaposer:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: sidetrack on May 20, 2021, 10:33:47 am
Only messing with you, obviously :lol8:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 20, 2021, 10:52:09 am
Ok itís time to stop playing around and open the box

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on May 20, 2021, 11:06:48 am
Ok itís time to stop playing around and open the box

 :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: deapsquatter on May 20, 2021, 11:14:43 am
Thats a big box for a Vortex  :pot:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 21, 2021, 11:14:50 am
I checked, no Vortex

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 21, 2021, 01:16:24 pm
Found this video - very informative  :thumleft:

Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 21, 2021, 05:52:12 pm
The choice of accessories for this model is not vast, but all of them are from over the ocean, with almost zero items available from local suppliers and one can hardly blame them considering the number of bikes sold.

Wanting to keep the mods to a minimum but at the same time provide necessary functionality or improved protection where it makes sense.

With that in mind the first item is a proper bash plate, the stock item will probably reduce gravel rash from the front wheel, but is too thin to provide any protection to the frame rails from any harder impacts.

Decided to try HDPE this time having always used aluminium in the past, and was happy to find that AXP make one for the 450.  Of course then came the agonising decision of which colour

Black orÖ itís a Honda it may as well be red

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I think it works
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on May 21, 2021, 05:54:07 pm
agonising decision of which colour

Black orÖ itís a Honda it may as well be red


Damn that is so nice!!! :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Tom van Brits on May 24, 2021, 02:15:44 am
agonising decision of which colour

Black orÖ itís a Honda it may as well be red


Damn that is so nice!!! :drif: :drif: :drif:

+ 1!!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Jacobsroodt on May 24, 2021, 07:42:16 am
Nice project! Glad the 450 is now sorted out.
Let us know what your actual oil change intervals are - 1000km is a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: FredBar on May 24, 2021, 12:34:45 pm
Hello Teebag, enjoying your fred, very informative

Question if i may, did you consider a road legal wr450? I'm still deciding between ktm 500 or crf 450l, but can pick up wr's for a bit cheaper, i'm obviously missing some drawbacks on the wr?
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 24, 2021, 01:13:30 pm
Rode my sons WR in NZ (admittedly a Sumo conversion) good fun, but it is a dirt bike, only a 5spd box, it even somehow manages to have a smaller tank from the factory - the Honda is better suited to mixed riding.

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Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 24, 2021, 06:38:27 pm
Talking of tanks 2 gallons (7.6L) is too small, but before we address that it is time to add a little protection for the radiators.

Minimal but strong from Adventure Spec in the UK.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/0e6b5c691e52709c64fd2bf9a6aea783.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/802fc647587578f35c1c7f3d9cd3a813.jpg)

Now we can get to the tank. The stock one is a lovely, pressed titanium item that is just too small to be of much use for the range we typically require between fuel stops.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/336c896790ecdf42eac25e5279aacfc6.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/58ec9b4ad23e685d3047b137180eeb9f.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/79ebe9c65ff71a1e63a703fe876b6139.jpg)

Only 11.4L from the IMS - the only other option is the 20L from Nomad in Australia, but that is just too bulky for my liking, and due to itís size and position of the pump, not easy to use all the available fuel.

I will probably still end up with a bladder for the long road, but this will work for most trips, and does not add much bulk to the Hondas lines.
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 25, 2021, 08:43:16 pm
The stock one is a lovely, pressed titanium item that is just too small to be of much use

It is a thing of beauty though

If anyone is interested it weighs 1144g

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210525/1dad081672a43b96e70e2268601dcbbb.jpg)
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 27, 2021, 05:51:18 pm
Next item of protection are some decent handguards. Barkbusters seem to be the go to ADV option and I have had them on previous bikes but this time I wanted something a little different, and of course colours had to be chosen - hope you donít mind, I went with the red again.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/d7af8afe4da87b6447e6774bf4afb740.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/d399ee75b37632ab0b217af2e0a99740.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: LanC on May 29, 2021, 02:25:53 pm
- hope you donít mind, I went with the red again
I don't mind. Thanks for sharing your build. It looks too pretty to get it dirty.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 29, 2021, 04:01:11 pm
Thanks Lance, don't worry it will get dirty  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 29, 2021, 04:03:47 pm
Now to the other end, most just remove everything and bolt the plate up under the tail light at a jaunty angle, or fit a tail tidy kit that replaces the rear lights and indicators. Being winter I thought iíd leave a bit more there and see if that helps keep some of the spray under control.

So for now I just modified the stock mount with a few cuts to enable me to flip the mounting plate.

Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on May 30, 2021, 02:15:32 pm
That's no tail tidy, that's a towbar!! ;) :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 30, 2021, 02:43:36 pm
No, I still havenít made my mind up about it, so no tail tidy for now.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on May 31, 2021, 02:48:41 pm
So getting close to the end of the mod list for now, and it is time for the only bit of bling  :biggrin:  However the supplier was supposed to include a spacer for fitment to the L and as they didn't have any they just left it out, effectively making the part unusable  :'(  An email confirms they will ship one when they have stock, but they have no idea when that will be.

I reached out to @SparkMark, who builds stuff, to ask if he knew where I might source something that would work. No luck, but he kindly offered to "print" me one if I sent him a sketch   ???

About a week later and I have this in my hands, and can finally get everything bolted up.

Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on June 01, 2021, 03:28:21 pm
Ok so whats it for then?

Itís a clutch perch spacer, to help the shorty clutch lever clear the Honda switch cluster.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/1efc5052d2fc45067ed38ac9393dc695.jpg)

and this is what it looks like all mounted up

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/88f96df7f47275ea006b6bd35a5d0b0c.jpg)


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/6e48cce537a4e4c3dc554ad687bf19be.jpg)

and the other side
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/a04fe9b2d11e9d8505e4068d00297ba3.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: XRRX on June 01, 2021, 06:41:29 pm
Very tasteful alterations!! :thumleft:
However - there is still a huge elephant in the room:  :peepwall: :patch:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Mapog on June 01, 2021, 08:07:04 pm
I would love a Yoshi pipe for mineÖ?
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on June 01, 2021, 08:22:41 pm
Will ride the bike some before deciding how best to address the elephant
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 04, 2021, 09:21:38 pm
Teebag your bike looks the business  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on June 20, 2021, 06:08:56 pm
With the cockpit all wrapped up I fitted the Double Take Enduro mirrors from my Husqvarna (I have since moved them further outward on the bar)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210620/1cd20b48631fbd2f2f56238e44197f1d.jpg)

The final item of practicality also arrived after a lengthy supplier backlog.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210620/7d145026f31515237a0c5042575b41bd.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210620/0a3858ea8fe5c2c3bf8219207c71c305.jpg)

That should make any longer days in the saddle a lot more comfortable.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210620/7fc9929195fd7e7eafcaf2689fa7041a.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210620/96f9e7c79966632ef27ecec6c9a7fad2.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: skydiver on June 20, 2021, 07:07:24 pm
This last photo looks great.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 21, 2021, 01:20:11 am
This last photo looks great.  :thumleft:

+1  :thumleft:
Title: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on June 21, 2021, 03:28:30 pm
Having ridden the grand total of 200km, I figured it was time for an oil change - service intervals eh

The main reason was to fit this Motion Pro filter magnet (PN 11-0064  18-22mm) for a little extra protection (no magnetic drain plug here)

Note to self: remember not to throw away when doing the next oil service

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210621/9603209fc670de2b2db7004bebeba390.jpg)

The oil was murky with no surprises, still after removing the ďoldĒ filter, I cut the element out and rinsed it in a little turps to see what we caught.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210621/ed6ca47e7773568d974d556778669b98.jpg)

Not unexpected, fine particles and shavings - I would expect to see less next time (and no I didnít get lucky and score a 10mm socket, I included it for scale )
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 06, 2021, 03:51:54 pm
I think it is run in now...

971km gravel long weekend - time for another oil change  :biggrin:

Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on July 06, 2021, 06:05:13 pm
Any water in the Gamkapoortdam Teebag? Nice route!!! :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 07, 2021, 09:45:42 am
We didn't get to the dam side, and didn't ride to the Boplaas gate so didn't see the river level, The road into the kloof was pretty dry with only a few stream crossings, It was my 1st time there, so I am not sure what is normal.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 07, 2021, 10:27:24 am
It was a blast  :ricky:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Sandban(g)k on July 07, 2021, 11:08:45 am
We really have a good looking bike  :drif: :drif:

Cant wait for my turn...
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 07, 2021, 11:12:53 am
anytime, just no riding with JoDan
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Andrew_Smith on July 07, 2021, 11:53:57 am
@ravingDIODE hier is jou volgende bike.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on July 07, 2021, 12:03:07 pm
What was comfortable cruising speed Teebag? For the engine?
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 07, 2021, 12:27:53 pm
Bearing in mind it has under 1000km on it I wasn't pushing too hard, and the route was rather twisty to ensure the engine got a good workout and not sit a constant revs for any length of time, but easily 115 GPS, for the final stretch on tar from Riversdale to Swellendam I varied from 120 to 130 GPS and it still had more to give and was able to perform overtakes without concern, I don't want to push it much harder at this stage while the engine is still tight.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on July 07, 2021, 12:29:43 pm
and the route was rather twisty to ensure the engine got a good workout and not sit a constant revs for any length of time,

Route would have been perfect for running a engine in!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 15, 2021, 06:52:29 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210715/7682b3c59df4c5cd705c124c2ad1b18c.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Dwerg on July 16, 2021, 12:41:30 pm
That is one nicely sorted bike TB  :thumleft:

I know it's well down on power but in real life, how does it compare to a 701 in terms of fun factor?

I've always been a Honda fanboy, it's just been a while since they made anything that suited what I wanted.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 16, 2021, 03:11:36 pm
Just focusing on the riding experience and ignoring all other aspects.

The Husqvarna is a better long range, gravel highway and touring bike, and feels more planted at higher speeds. Outright power it has the edge over the Honda.

The Honda comes into its own when it is time to play, and is more nimble and agile when changing direction. The Honda is certainly not lacking power with the US ECU and if I ever feel the need for more I can add a Vortex, and if I want to die, I can add a cam too.

I said the following to @deapsquatter after this ride

Quote
iím having to learn to ride again, 1st time I am riding the bike, and itís not riding me

Maybe he can add his 2c here as our last 3 bike journey has been the same, and he has just got back from the Specialised Adventures Namibia trip
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 18, 2021, 08:35:18 am
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210718/29f780a93acc8bff40488a3482458e53.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 20, 2021, 02:48:20 pm
The afternoon before the trip it was time to fit the GPS and throw some luggage on - but these things always take longer than expected.

I had a AdventureSpec mini fairing and a Giant Loop enduro rack, so i fitted those, drilling through the rear fender and wiring temporary keyed power from the factory supplied plug on the LHS frame.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210720/f5b1d2b15b032f9f29086fba63c3984b.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210720/fb48b3136d38af113e9d13943791ebe0.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210720/175edce194aaa53e75706a3991d09588.jpg)

Then it was on to the luggage.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210720/8491aa9e83da03bcf071880a6516efc7.jpg)

Disappointed that this probably wonít work, I need to fit it flat on the seat and see how much of an interference it is, but for this trip I left it at home because I didnít want to find out on day one it was in the way and have no place to move it.

After a quick update from @deapsquatter who had recently returned from his Nam trip i quickly decided to put some protective film on the side panels before fitting my Giant Loop Mojave, and post trip inspection show this helped minimise wear in that area.

All that was left was to bolt my tools etc contained in the GL Possibles pouch to the rack and it was good to go.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210720/82506696580832353a36e50bf734409f.jpg)

All in all, it worked well, but there are a few tweaks I will make to improve things for the next tripÖ or not, if I manage to get away again this coming weekend
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on July 20, 2021, 03:19:14 pm
Last photo is stunning teebag!! :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 20, 2021, 03:28:28 pm
looks good.. liking your work  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 20, 2021, 03:33:26 pm
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: XRRX on July 20, 2021, 07:22:40 pm
@teebag: You may just succeed in waking Honda SA and finally put the 450L on the Adv-map, which is a position it very well deserves!  ;)
We've beat you to the Hell though... :P
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: WynandV on July 26, 2021, 08:29:56 am
Took my CRF450L to Atlantis dunes yesterday. First time I really enjoyed the bike. In the sand dunes, the bad on/off throttle was not a problem, since you never really completely close the throttle.
Suspension and power was perfect for sand riding.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 26, 2021, 01:00:44 pm
Some cool pictures there Teebag!!
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on July 26, 2021, 05:48:37 pm
Ok one of the issues I had was the rear fender ďun-clippingĒ over bumps, the weight of the toolkit would pull the rack and fender upward and it would un-clip at the rear.  A simple RokStrap around the whole thing solved the problem for the rest of the trip.

Most aftermarket racks bolt to subframe brackets so this would not be an issue.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210726/7997ff0cc10cc2da2de32d7f8569327a.jpg)

Not a great design, but at least the plastic is flexible.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210726/03fbfedefec7af174a0f145621c34071.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210726/325758e25c88667409c450f5ac337383.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210726/f7a6db796e3d5055c8506a13bfc33309.jpg)

Feels solid now so shouldnít have the problem again.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on July 26, 2021, 05:51:01 pm
You have the knack to make a brand new bike better!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on August 01, 2021, 03:56:34 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210801/70228fd8cd65291fef71f5a6b2503ac6.jpg)
 
Letís see if this can work, modified @giantloopmoto tabs and some generic straps for the front, to mount the Enduristan Sandstorm 4X
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on August 05, 2021, 05:35:48 pm
Well if I am going to be changing the oil a lot then I may as well try to make the process a little slicker.

So I made something

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210805/c7ff9a9ecf1efc8836f6ac52d5f053b2.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210805/30f4e092a39af31a4182f3a12e9f47ba.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210805/70bf46f7d4d09abf16a2a4169692db36.jpg)

You can buy a bling billet version of thisÖ in America, when they have stock which they havenít, for the past few months, it would probably also set you back around R1000 landed

How do you use it? Well you warm the oil up then throw the bike down on the RHS, remove the drain plug, and insert one freshly printed tool. Stand the bike back up and remove stopper, drain the oil into a suitable container and continue from there as normal.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210805/24d25bfc556d9caf8570a50b16d324b4.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210805/b3b1a742cb1857802b8210e1a2aee2a9.jpg)

No need to remove the bash plate, no mess, no fuss.

Oh and I didnít forget the magnet

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210805/59690e19784c050260dd3a04ea1f5004.jpg)

It seemed to do itís job This time only small debris and almost nothing in the filter on inspection after cutting it open.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 11, 2021, 04:11:40 pm
Even though ive spent a bucket load of money on my 450X rally bike, I think this will be my next Honda, the 450X is a beast and i'm getting old  :imaposer: I recon an Africa Twin and the 450L is a good combo
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on August 11, 2021, 04:22:59 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on September 15, 2021, 03:58:40 pm
Went for an overnighter in the Karoo with @deapsquatter and Marcus to compare notes - 3 CRF450L's

+- 450km per day, with an AVG consumption of 22 km/L with the American ECU, which gives me a range of between 230-250km on the IMS 3 gal tank. The Vortex bikes were slightly thirstier but definitely had a slight edge on power.

Marcus proved the stock chain is crap, but other than that - no issues.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on September 15, 2021, 03:59:54 pm
 :ricky:

Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Ri on September 15, 2021, 05:04:04 pm
That last photo is pure magic :drif:

Rest also nice. Ouberg never disappoints <3
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 15, 2021, 09:31:34 pm
Second pic with Ouberg in the background. WOW!!! :thumleft: :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Grunder on September 18, 2021, 11:40:06 am
Quite informative video.

https://youtu.be/Qz9TjJS3EQU

Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on September 21, 2021, 02:41:39 pm
Did the 3rd oil change, not enough debris to photograph.  This was at +- 1500km interval and the oil (Motul 7100 full synthetic) though dirty, still had a reddish tinge and the filter still looked clean so could probably extend to 2K km between changes and maybe the filter only every 2nd change although they are cheap enough to change every time.

I didn't forget the magnet ;)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Tom van Brits on October 29, 2021, 01:06:36 am
That last photo is pure magic :drif:

Rest also nice. Ouberg never disappoints <3

 :3some:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Grunder on November 03, 2021, 02:57:45 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210718/29f780a93acc8bff40488a3482458e53.jpg)

Is that the 450 Adventure Spec Mini Fairing for the on there?

Looks good!!  :drif:

You enjoying it?

Friend of mine is bringing me the universal one from England in December.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 03, 2021, 03:39:40 pm
Yes it is (or rather was) I had a small  off which caused the fairing mount to fail and caused more damage than it is worth.

I will not be replacing it.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Grunder on November 03, 2021, 05:51:38 pm
Yes it is (or rather was) I had a small  off which caused the fairing mount to fail and caused more damage than it is worth.

I will not be replacing it.
Oh no.

Damage to the forks or only to the mount?
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 03, 2021, 06:04:06 pm
No thankfully not a mark on the forks - but same canít be said for several other parts in the cockpit area, had it not failed I recon I would have got away with almost zero damage
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 18, 2021, 10:45:01 am
A small update.

Replaced the stock sprocket cover with something a little more open, which should make it easier to keep clean and an eye on things.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211118/41fc4db7d7d977e5e935934af6a98fc8.jpg)

Although the main reason is to add a slightly beefier case saver, I have read a few cases of chain damage to the cases on these bikes.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211118/a77941c1c5927c3989ef664d4647bc9a.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211118/9de9e45d6229f5391f90923e918ad4fb.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 18, 2021, 01:41:54 pm
I recognize that black bike..

Busy looking for a 450L.. they are not easy to come across at a fair price
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: deapsquatter on November 18, 2021, 02:06:46 pm
I recognize that black bike..

Yes so do I!  ;)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 18, 2021, 02:36:01 pm
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 21, 2021, 02:26:26 pm
People complain that this bike is too heavy for a 450, but itís all the little things Honda added to add strength where necessary, to make the bike feel more solid, and to quiet things down.  I cleaned up the sprocket cover I removed and discovered this rather heavy duty rubber dampening - and yes there now considerably more drivetrain noise without it.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211121/49d42813f2c26339f4ca178adc7487da.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 27, 2021, 03:30:48 pm
Trip prep, time to ditch the budget stock no-ring chain +- 3000km and itís done.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/f628a4feffe77df720024dd4faae05bd.jpg)

and while we are at it, may as well try a gearing change, to allow for slightly lower revs at cruising speed.  A 48 DirtTricks sprocket, down from the OEM 51.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/b640d37019622c9e0b445ffd0ee794ae.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/d7d2c3790d2a3b6cb7b8be7485b34de0.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/c45ccfbbbf904791ab00a98db16822b9.jpg)

Careful not to go too wide with the replacement chain.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/9afc316c862a37a19e8118f0848e83a2.jpg)

All done

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/871e05a70a0639e8dc5a94393eeef717.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/2fbe72ed48f08895cbb5ea078eff1cc0.jpg)
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: skydiver on November 27, 2021, 04:10:02 pm
Any idea why the OEM chain only lasted 3k km?  :patch:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on November 27, 2021, 04:25:43 pm
I love how you improve your bikes always!! :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on November 27, 2021, 05:00:41 pm
Any idea why the OEM chain only lasted 3k km?  :patch:
I think Honda specíed this chain as std on all 450 models and with the other models you are probably not going to stick with stock gearing for long depending on how you intend to use the bike.

Like the stock tyres - they work but there are better options.
Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: teebag on December 02, 2021, 07:01:17 pm
Going somewhere

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: deapsquatter on December 02, 2021, 07:33:53 pm
Where you off to bud? #thanksfortheinvite

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Title: Re: Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
Post by: skydiver on December 02, 2021, 07:48:19 pm
Going somewhere

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That is a very nice set-up
Enjoy the trip.....hope to see an RR after the trip  :deal: