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Title: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 12, 2021, 11:08:33 am
I'm starting to understand why they always score so well on the happiness indexes.

Rules are of course needed to maintain some form of order, but it seems that if applied+executed in a sensible way, its possible to have more freedom as a society.
If the level of trust improves, lesser rules are needed and more freedom of movement can be allowed.

This can be seen in the ability of free camping and exploring private property. Also in the way that the shelters are shared by all. Similar to how a community of developers contribute to the same open-source codebase, the shelters are often stocked with commodities by the community of users. 

So many dirt roads
(https://i.imgur.com/20737kb.png)

Free shelters with no booking required
(https://i.imgur.com/7020yB0.png)
some of which are cabins
(https://vindskyddskartan.se/api/images/60A756846335B8CB.jpg)
(https://vindskyddskartan.se/api/images/60A75687A50AA098.jpg)

Free to camp wherever
(https://i.imgur.com/pEN1Fqy.png)
You can also explore private property (by foot of course)
(https://i.imgur.com/PaBPcZj.png)

Check it out:

Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: JustBendIt on June 12, 2021, 01:21:18 pm
Looks beautiful

Imagine if that sentiment and culture was shared in Southern Africa ...
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 12, 2021, 01:24:21 pm
Many South Africans already claim the right to explore our private property on foot. :ricky:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Fransw on June 12, 2021, 02:03:05 pm
Cant do much with only 21 days of sunshine pa.. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 12, 2021, 02:10:45 pm
Cant do much with only 21 days of sunshine pa.. :thumleft:

Well, an annual 21-day vacation around there would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: sidetrack on June 12, 2021, 02:31:38 pm
Throw in Norway for a bit of variation and it will be a cool trip
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Odd Dog on June 12, 2021, 02:42:17 pm
Cant do much with only 21 days of sunshine pa.. :thumleft:

And then 344 miserable days, will get yourself a decent tan.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Gerrard on June 12, 2021, 03:03:19 pm
Looks beautiful

Imagine if that sentiment and culture was shared in Southern Africa ...

My son emigrated there earlier this year. He says its a culture shock
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Fransw on June 12, 2021, 04:02:24 pm
Cant do much with only 21 days of sunshine pa.. :thumleft:

Well, an annual 21-day vacation around there would be wonderful.

true!
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 12, 2021, 06:38:15 pm
Many South Africans already claim the right to explore our private property on foot. :ricky:
Imagine a society where you can trust a stranger to that extent.


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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: JIMMI on June 12, 2021, 07:10:15 pm
Cant do much with only 21 days of sunshine pa.. :thumleft:

And then 344 miserable days, will get yourself a decent tan.

I'm willing to give it a go.
Anything to get the fuck away from over active under achievers dressed in Red overalls.....
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 12, 2021, 07:44:54 pm
Winter is baie mooi en moenie dat dit jou terug hou nie.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: frankmac on June 12, 2021, 08:07:48 pm
Scandinavian women would be my motivation.

Then again, I doubt the missus would be impressed nor do I think the Scandinavian lasses.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Aprilian on June 12, 2021, 08:40:08 pm
Not so trustworthy! Don't you read Jo Nesbo and Harlan Coben???

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Cracker on June 12, 2021, 08:43:04 pm
Nice vid on Swedish adventure biking, voorvel.

I like the idea about the huts (got them in Scotland as well, if you're ever there, called a bothy) where there's no money involved. I could quite easily travel like that, minimal camping kit and spending the money I have in a B&B very 3rd or 4th day.

I'm doing too much dreaming in Europe and not enough doing .......... need to get out there soon ................

Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 12, 2021, 10:03:23 pm
Nice vid on Swedish adventure biking, voorvel.

I like the idea about the huts (got them in Scotland as well, if you're ever there, called a bothy) where there's no money involved. I could quite easily travel like that, minimal camping kit and spending the money I have in a B&B very 3rd or 4th day.

I'm doing too much dreaming in Europe and not enough doing .......... need to get out there soon ................
Give me a shout when you are ready to go explore


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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 12, 2021, 10:22:42 pm


This can be seen in the ability of free camping and exploring private property. Also in the way that the shelters are shared by all. Similar to how a community of developers contribute to the same open-source codebase, the shelters are often stocked with commodities by the community of users.

Real Ubuntu.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: GRIM on June 13, 2021, 03:21:37 pm
I've spent a fair bit of time in all seasons in a town called Sodankylla - about 150km north of the Arctic circle in Finland.
It's an interesting area - there are a bunch of things called "Every Mans Rights" - basically the right to freely explore the wilderness. At the same time, guys there will often spent their own free time randomly caring for and tending the forests. But there are also limits to it - not intruding on others, not messing things up, etc. The weather is fantastic - warm in Summer (about 25 degrees) and in my area it has about a month of continuous sunlight. Winter is cold, but you dress for it and you are prepared for it - I get colder here in JHB than I do in -30 winters there. There is always something to do. Summer is biking, cycling fly fishing, etc. and winter is Skiing, Snowmobiles, ice fishing, etc. basically your activities follow the seasons. It is not cheap though. And the Mosquitos are something else.
I'd live there in a heartbeat, but it will be difficult fitting in for most - the people and personalities are very different to anything you will have encountered here.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 13, 2021, 03:36:39 pm
Inderdaad, dis elke man vir homself, waar ek vandaan kom.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Chemist on June 13, 2021, 07:28:38 pm
Let's rather list the only challenge when visiting Sweden: the weather. I worked and studied in Lund, it is a lovely place.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Rob_A on June 14, 2021, 07:45:01 am
I've spent a fair bit of time in all seasons in a town called Sodankylla - about 150km north of the Arctic circle in Finland.
It's an interesting area - there are a bunch of things called "Every Mans Rights" - basically the right to freely explore the wilderness. At the same time, guys there will often spent their own free time randomly caring for and tending the forests. But there are also limits to it - not intruding on others, not messing things up, etc. The weather is fantastic - warm in Summer (about 25 degrees) and in my area it has about a month of continuous sunlight. Winter is cold, but you dress for it and you are prepared for it - I get colder here in JHB than I do in -30 winters there. There is always something to do. Summer is biking, cycling fly fishing, etc. and winter is Skiing, Snowmobiles, ice fishing, etc. basically your activities follow the seasons. It is not cheap though. And the Mosquitos are something else.
I'd live there in a heartbeat, but it will be difficult fitting in for most - the people and personalities are very different to anything you will have encountered here.
What he said - mosquitoes. If you plan to camp or stay in a cabin next to a lake be prepared. There are swarms of them.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: sidetrack on June 14, 2021, 08:07:13 am
I've spent a fair bit of time in all seasons in a town called Sodankylla - about 150km north of the Arctic circle in Finland.
It's an interesting area - there are a bunch of things called "Every Mans Rights" - basically the right to freely explore the wilderness. At the same time, guys there will often spent their own free time randomly caring for and tending the forests. But there are also limits to it - not intruding on others, not messing things up, etc. The weather is fantastic - warm in Summer (about 25 degrees) and in my area it has about a month of continuous sunlight. Winter is cold, but you dress for it and you are prepared for it - I get colder here in JHB than I do in -30 winters there. There is always something to do. Summer is biking, cycling fly fishing, etc. and winter is Skiing, Snowmobiles, ice fishing, etc. basically your activities follow the seasons. It is not cheap though. And the Mosquitos are something else.
I'd live there in a heartbeat, but it will be difficult fitting in for most - the people and personalities are very different to anything you will have encountered here.
What he said - mosquitoes. If you plan to camp or stay in a cabin next to a lake be prepared. There are swarms of them.

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Like the flies in the Outback  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Omninorm on June 14, 2021, 11:06:46 am
Can confirm.
The everyman right (In Norway) is basically applicable to "uncultivated land" which is practically everywhere where there are not homes or farms. Roads leading through them are open to use though unless locked which I have yet to come across.

Riding season, at least here in the South, will be between April - mid to end September. You can of course fit spikes if you want. Nice thing about riding in summer over here you can with sunshine until midnight. So I guess you get your double dose :)
Many of the guys ride ATV's in winter. Lots of trails you can go on and ride in the snow.
But yeah, not really riding in winter gives me time for snowboarding.

I walked down to the river near my house and did a bit of that fly fishing you speak of @GRIM  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/3kdNU7o.jpg)

Missing my 690 though, but will be trying out the Yamaha T7 in July.  Will make a plan next year perhaps to get  back on 2 wheels. Want to start doing all those trails voorvel posted. Also the Trans European Trail awaits.
https://transeurotrail.org/



Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Fransw on June 14, 2021, 11:57:38 am
I'm starting to understand why they always score so well on the happiness indexes.

Rules are of course needed to maintain some form of order, but it seems that if applied+executed in a sensible way, its possible to have more freedom as a society.
If the level of trust improves, lesser rules are needed and more freedom of movement can be allowed.

This can be seen in the ability of free camping and exploring private property. Also in the way that the shelters are shared by all. Similar to how a community of developers contribute to the same open-source codebase, the shelters are often stocked with commodities by the community of users. 

So many dirt roads
(https://i.imgur.com/20737kb.png)

Free shelters with no booking required
(https://i.imgur.com/7020yB0.png)
some of which are cabins
(https://vindskyddskartan.se/api/images/60A756846335B8CB.jpg)
(https://vindskyddskartan.se/api/images/60A75687A50AA098.jpg)

Free to camp wherever
(https://i.imgur.com/pEN1Fqy.png)
You can also explore private property (by foot of course)
(https://i.imgur.com/PaBPcZj.png)

Check it out:


There are so many dirt roads... Why don't they just make the whole place a dirt road?! :lol8:

Why so many dirt roads?

(Nothing like the wild open spaces of Africa!)
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: m0lt3n on June 14, 2021, 12:00:14 pm
Scandinavian women would be my motivation.

Then again, I doubt the missus would be impressed nor do I think the Scandinavian lasses.  :biggrin:

Glad its not only me expecting a different thread when I clicked on it
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 14, 2021, 02:14:56 pm


I'm starting to understand why they always score so well on the happiness indexes.

Rules are of course needed to maintain some form of order, but it seems that if applied+executed in a sensible way, its possible to have more freedom as a society.
If the level of trust improves, lesser rules are needed and more freedom of movement can be allowed.

This can be seen in the ability of free camping and exploring private property. Also in the way that the shelters are shared by all. Similar to how a community of developers contribute to the same open-source codebase, the shelters are often stocked with commodities by the community of users. 

So many dirt roads
(https://i.imgur.com/20737kb.png)

Free shelters with no booking required
(https://i.imgur.com/7020yB0.png)
some of which are cabins
(https://vindskyddskartan.se/api/images/60A756846335B8CB.jpg)
(https://vindskyddskartan.se/api/images/60A75687A50AA098.jpg)

Free to camp wherever
(https://i.imgur.com/pEN1Fqy.png)
You can also explore private property (by foot of course)
(https://i.imgur.com/PaBPcZj.png)

Check it out:


There are so many dirt roads... Why don't they just make the whole place a dirt road?! 8:

Why so many dirt roads?

(Nothing like the wild open spaces of Africa!)

Lol
That's because of all the forests and it's zoomed out a lot.

You can't compare it to Africa, not even remotely.
Soos ek ges het; die mense daar is gelukkig vir n rede.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Blou Zebu on June 14, 2021, 02:24:53 pm
Scandinavian women would be my motivation.

Then again, I doubt the missus would be impressed nor do I think the Scandinavian lasses.  :biggrin:

In the wild old days of WDF this would be post 2 and not post 12.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 14, 2021, 02:32:29 pm
Scandinavian women would be my motivation.

Then again, I doubt the missus would be impressed nor do I think the Scandinavian lasses.  :biggrin:

In the wild old days of WDF this would be post 2 and not post 12.

 :biggrin:

WE become woke ek se
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: JC on June 14, 2021, 04:20:31 pm
Let's rather list the only challenge when visiting Sweden: the weather. I worked and studied in Lund, it is a lovely place.

my colleague in Lund bought a Harley this year, the weather can't be THAT bad  ;D He also has a few vintage MX bikes.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Chemist on June 14, 2021, 07:43:18 pm
I was always surprised with the amount of bikes and sports cars that gets "dusted off" on sunny days. We are simply spoiled with the fact that we can use our bikes all year round.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Rynet on June 15, 2021, 04:03:28 am
Interesting thread, thanks  :thumleft: Scandinavia is on my bucket list to visit / ride bike in, but not to live.

Two of my 40-something Swedish clients immigrated to South Africa about 2 years ago, sak and pak with Swedish wives and children and are happily living here . They were here on holiday and loved it so much they moved here. The one's work is still Sweden- based but he does it all online from SA and the other one now works locally. They love it here and say they have no plans to go back. ( maybe they did not like fishing or skiing ?  :biggrin:)

I think the lovely year long mostly nice weather we have here has a lot to do with their decision.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Blou Zebu on June 15, 2021, 07:20:04 am
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=259536

A Reason not to visit Scandinavia!
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Master Beerkie on June 15, 2021, 07:40:42 am
My son emigrated there earlier this year. He says its a culture shock

@Gerrard  - agree fully with your son and there are also reasons not to visit Sweden at least.
My future ex worked in Gothenburg for a year and she found the swedes most anti-social.
2 things: Lagom (just the right amount) and Systembolaget (state owned monopoly on liquor sales). Go Google.
In most swedish municipalities it is forbidden to drink alcohol in public and overly happiness is frowned upon everywhere.
Die land is soos Potch varsity jy mag dans en spyker solank jy nie wys dat jy dit geniet nie
Tos plek punt - my 2c





Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 15, 2021, 09:27:04 am
Looks beautiful

Imagine if that sentiment and culture was shared in Southern Africa ...

Exactly.. here we have farmers who lock gates on private roads just to try and save their stock
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Rynet on June 15, 2021, 05:42:34 pm
My son emigrated there earlier this year. He says its a culture shock

@Gerrard  - agree fully with your son and there are also reasons not to visit Sweden at least.
My future ex worked in Gothenburg for a year and she found the swedes most anti-social.
2 things: Lagom (just the right amount) and Systembolaget (state owned monopoly on liquor sales). Go Google.
In most swedish municipalities it is forbidden to drink alcohol in public and overly happiness is frowned upon everywhere.
Die land is soos Potch varsity jy mag dans en spyker solank jy nie wys dat jy dit geniet nie
Tos plek punt - my 2c
haha I must agree, when I was younger and working in a pub on a Greek island for a while all the travellers drank lots but ohgosh, the Swedes would get ridiculously mortiyingly drunk in the most uncool way.  They would arrive for their holiday and a few minutes in , and in broad daylight , they would get motherless. ::) ::) ::) We always thought it was because alcohol was too expensive in Sweden but haha you've just explained it is because getting drunik is not allowed in Sweden  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Thanks for the links : I did google

haha Systembolaget :  "exists for one reason: To minimize alcohol-related problems by selling alcohol in a responsible way, without profit motive. Our vision is a society in which everyone can enjoy alcoholic drinks with consideration about health and without harming either themselves or others.https://www.omsystembolaget.se/english/ "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagom :" the word can be variously translated as "in moderation", "in balance", "perfect-simple", and "suitable" (in matter of amounts). Whereas words like sufficient and average suggest some degree of abstinence, scarcity, or failure, lagom carries the connotation of appropriateness, although not necessarily perfection. The archetypical Swedish proverb "Lagom r bst", literally "The right amount is best", is also translated as "Enough is as good as a feast",[1] or as "There is virtue in moderation".[
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 15, 2021, 08:34:18 pm
Walk through the centre of any SA small town on any Saturday morning, and you regret not having Sweden's control over alcohol abuse.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 15, 2021, 10:27:16 pm
Lagom is definitely anti-saffer

This thread is about riding your/a damn bike there at some point in your life.-thats it...

I find it curious how some immediately tried to compare Sweden to ZA on the basis of permanent residency and having the one-trick weather pony do it's thing. Hahahaha 

I'm not saying you live in a shit hole country, I'm saying you should try to explore more.


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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 15, 2021, 10:32:06 pm
Lagom is definitely anti-saffer

This thread is about riding your/a damn bike there at some point in your life.-thats it...

I find it curious how some immediately tried to compare Sweden to ZA on the basis of permanent residency and having the one-trick weather pony do it's thing. Hahahaha 

I'm not saying you live in a shit hole country, I'm saying you should try to explore more.


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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 15, 2021, 10:32:29 pm
Booze is expensive in Sweden. And ppl drink on weekends mostly.

An they can like to  drink lots.

But public drinking is frowned upon. Unlike here where its encouraged.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 15, 2021, 10:44:02 pm
Booze is expensive in Sweden. And ppl drink on weekends mostly.

An they can like to  drink lots.

But public drinking is frowned upon. Unlike here where its encouraged.
Getting sloshed and tripping over your own feet, is mos good football practice?

Clever folks those Brits.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: sidetrack on June 16, 2021, 06:08:38 pm
Booze is expensive in Sweden. And ppl drink on weekends mostly.

An they can like to  drink lots.

But public drinking is frowned upon. Unlike here where its encouraged.
Getting sloshed and tripping over your own feet, is mos good football practice?

Clever folks those Brits.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Cracker on June 16, 2021, 08:58:22 pm
Lagom is definitely anti-saffer

This thread is about riding your/a damn bike there at some point in your life.-thats it...

I find it curious how some immediately tried to compare Sweden to ZA on the basis of permanent residency and having the one-trick weather pony do it's thing. Hahahaha 

I'm not saying you live in a shit hole country, I'm saying you should try to explore more.


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I third that ......................  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: GRIM on June 16, 2021, 10:08:51 pm
The Finns have an interesting drinking culture. They sit down, and they drink. And they get drunk, and they fall over. All with minimal change to their somber mood. Everyone else seems to get happy, loud, roaring drunk, unintelligible, comatose. but the Finns do go from sitting down to comatose on the floor without all the bits in between.

How to piss off a Finn:
Drink more then them, or tell them to hurry up their drink because you have already bought the next round (double points when it is their pint sized British girlfiend doing it to them)
Show them that you own more firearms than them
And if that fails the sure fire winner is to tell them that you don't think that Putin is actually too bad.

(The above is applicable in a small town 100km from the Russian border - it may not work in Helsinki.)
*except the last one... that works in the whole of Finland  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 16, 2021, 10:17:40 pm
Booze is expensive in Sweden. And ppl drink on weekends mostly.

An they can like to  drink lots.

But public drinking is frowned upon. Unlike here where its encouraged.
Getting sloshed and tripping over your own feet, is mos good football practice?

Clever folks those Brits.

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Bovva boys innit guv.

French, Germans, Belgians, ities, Spanish, porras, Russians an most east euro countries have em. Hardcore ous with no future
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 16, 2021, 10:30:27 pm
The Finns have an interesting drinking culture. They sit down, and they drink. And they get drunk, and they fall over. All with minimal change to their somber mood. Everyone else seems to get happy, loud, roaring drunk, unintelligible, comatose. but the Finns do go from sitting down to comatose on the floor without all the bits in between.

How to piss off a Finn:
Drink more then them, or tell them to hurry up their drink because you have already bought the next round (double points when it is their pint sized British girlfiend doing it to them)
Show them that you own more firearms than them
And if that fails the sure fire winner is to tell them that you don't think that Putin is actually too bad.

(The above is applicable in a small town 100km from the Russian border - it may not work in Helsinki.)
*except the last one... that works in the whole of Finland  :peepwall:


"All with minimal change to their somber mood". That is funny! :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Master Beerkie on June 17, 2021, 08:50:57 am
Lagom is definitely anti-saffer

This thread is about riding your/a damn bike there at some point in your life.-thats it...

I find it curious how some immediately tried to compare Sweden to ZA on the basis of permanent residency........

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Noted  :thumleft:
Ps - I was comparing Sweden to Potch varsity only
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Omninorm on June 17, 2021, 11:37:59 am
Lagom is definitely anti-saffer

This thread is about riding your/a damn bike there at some point in your life.-thats it...

I find it curious how some immediately tried to compare Sweden to ZA on the basis of permanent residency and having the one-trick weather pony do it's thing. Hahahaha 

I'm not saying you live in a shit hole country, I'm saying you should try to explore more.


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Africa only has mud huts lions and elephants. Scandinavia only has ice, snow and Vikings.

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This guy has some good videos.


Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Odd Dog on June 17, 2021, 02:54:17 pm
 :laughing4: Doing the laundry.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Rob_A on June 17, 2021, 08:39:10 pm
The Finns have an interesting drinking culture. They sit down, and they drink. And they get drunk, and they fall over. All with minimal change to their somber mood. Everyone else seems to get happy, loud, roaring drunk, unintelligible, comatose. but the Finns do go from sitting down to comatose on the floor without all the bits in between.

How to piss off a Finn:
Drink more then them, or tell them to hurry up their drink because you have already bought the next round (double points when it is their pint sized British girlfiend doing it to them)
Show them that you own more firearms than them
And if that fails the sure fire winner is to tell them that you don't think that Putin is actually too bad.

(The above is applicable in a small town 100km from the Russian border - it may not work in Helsinki.)
*except the last one... that works in the whole of Finland  :peepwall:
The Swedes also get drunk gracefully. Something you seldom see in SA.

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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: BuRP on June 25, 2021, 01:41:24 pm
I'm doing too much dreaming in Europe and not enough doing .......... need to get out there soon ................
Give me a shout when you are ready to go explore

May I appoint myself as an additional volunteer?
Time enough on my hands, willing to travel, will rent some wheels.
Balkan rather than Scandinavia  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: voorvel on June 25, 2021, 06:24:44 pm
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Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Grant650x on June 29, 2021, 11:04:37 am
I work for a Swedish company and all of my colleagues in Sweden seem to be in a permanent state of depression
One of the ladies husbands bought himself a Ferrari to feel good about himself and all the neighbors get really pissed off with him when he takes it for a drive as it is to noisy
All his neighbors have asked him to sell his car.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Grant650x on June 29, 2021, 11:11:36 am
One thing that I do notice is that when I am in Sweden and we go out with work mates after a meal the guys at the clubs get blitzed on the booze when you hit the booze to the extent that 90% of the time the chicks in the clubs are all dancing on their own or with other girls as the guys are to dronk.
Title: Re: Reasons for visiting Scandinavia
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 29, 2021, 11:28:35 am
I work for a Swedish company and all of my colleagues in Sweden seem to be in a permanent state of depression
One of the ladies husbands bought himself a Ferrari to feel good about himself and all the neighbors get really pissed off with him when he takes it for a drive as it is to noisy
All his neighbors have asked him to sell his car.

There is so much going on in that sentence that the sheer number of reactions I have just lead to this comment  :imaposer: