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Title: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: petri oosthuizen on June 26, 2021, 04:34:35 pm
As Above

1) How to clean and lube this correcty to maximise life and expected wear??

2) How often do you so this??

3) Without taking the chain off every time..............???

THANKS :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Hando on June 26, 2021, 04:42:41 pm
I can tell you how NOT to do it.

main stand. Idle in first gear. Take a lappie and wipe the chain running between fr and rear sprocket.

I was extremely lucky in that I only lost about 15% of my left thumb.

Some okes had all their fingers amputated.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: petri oosthuizen on June 26, 2021, 04:43:52 pm
I can tell you how NOT to do it.

main stand. Idle in first gear. Take a lappie and wipe the chain running between fr and rear sprocket.

I was extremely lucky in that I only lost about 15% of my left thumb.

Some okes had all their fingers amputated.

Eina Pyn
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Grunder on June 26, 2021, 04:54:08 pm
Ek het een van daai chain brushes.

Ek spyt hom met bliksem, borsel borsel borsel.

Rinse

droog die ketting af.

Olie hom liggies met ratkas olie.

job done.


Dan elke 500kmish dan olie ek hom net weer sommer met dieselfde vuil olie lappie.  Ek het bottel leftover olie wat ek die lappie heeltyd mee optop.


Dan een of ander tyd.... bliksem ek hom weer.... rinse and repeat
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Hando on June 26, 2021, 04:55:40 pm
Bliksem is koning !!!!

so onverdund - hy was n kettang silverskoon.

Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Gerrard on June 26, 2021, 05:40:22 pm
Spuit hom sopnat met Q20. Ry hom en olie. Doen dit elke keer as jy van grondpad tip af kom. Mens was nie ketting nie
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Grunder on June 26, 2021, 05:49:56 pm
Spuit hom sopnat met Q20. Ry hom en olie. Doen dit elke keer as jy van grondpad tip af kom. Mens was nie ketting nie

My vrou stem nie saam nie.

Ek yank net jou chain  :biggrin:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Kobus Myburgh on June 26, 2021, 06:04:22 pm
Jy gaan baie verskillende opinies kry Petri.

Begin by n ordentlike ketting - O-ring of X-ring.  Ek olie my ketting elke keer as ek my bike was.  Vir my gaan dit oor roes voorkoming. 

Ek haat n wax, party manne glo net daaraan.  Wurth se dry lube is awesome, maar duur as jy baie lube.  Ek gebruik deesdae Spanjaard chain lube.

Ek glo nie regtig aan lube tydens n trip nie.  Jy trek net stof.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Gerrard on June 26, 2021, 06:13:47 pm
Jy gaan baie verskillende opinies kry Petri.

Begin by n ordentlike ketting - O-ring of X-ring.  Ek olie my ketting elke keer as ek my bike was.  Vir my gaan dit oor roes voorkoming. 

Ek haat n wax, party manne glo net daaraan.  Wurth se dry lube is awesome, maar duur as jy baie lube.  Ek gebruik deesdae Spanjaard chain lube.

Ek glo nie regtig aan lube tydens n trip nie.  Jy trek net stof.

Dit is hoekom ek Q20. Gebruik. Jy beskerm en was die ketting terwyl jy. Ry. Duisende moto xs kannie verkeerd wees nie
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Challa on June 26, 2021, 07:01:13 pm
Paraffien en n ou tande borsel. Skrop liggies , maak skoon met n lappie en n bietjie ratkas olie vir lube.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Grunder on June 26, 2021, 07:34:05 pm
Jy gaan baie verskillende opinies kry Petri.

Begin by n ordentlike ketting - O-ring of X-ring.  Ek olie my ketting elke keer as ek my bike was.  Vir my gaan dit oor roes voorkoming. 

Ek haat n wax, party manne glo net daaraan.  Wurth se dry lube is awesome, maar duur as jy baie lube.  Ek gebruik deesdae Spanjaard chain lube.

Ek glo nie regtig aan lube tydens n trip nie.  Jy trek net stof.

Dit is hoekom ek Q20. Gebruik. Jy beskerm en was die ketting terwyl jy. Ry. Duisende moto xs kannie verkeerd wees nie

Dis wat hul van Black Label drinkers ook s  :deal:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: petri oosthuizen on June 27, 2021, 07:24:22 am
Wat is die "bliksem" wat jylle van praat?? Paraffien??
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: gastank on June 27, 2021, 07:58:45 am
Fit a chain oiler.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Altie7deLaan on June 27, 2021, 09:08:04 am
Ek gebruik chain wax.
Sowat elke 5 tenks/1000km.
As jy by huis stop, is die ketting lekker warm en die wax is relatief "dun".
Ek het `n blackwattle houtstomp wat daar in garage le, druk dit onder die swingarm in, regs agter.
Bike rus op sidestand en hout, agterwiel net net in lig.
Hou `n lappie om die ketting, en spin die die wiel met die ander hand.
Doen dit `n paar keer, terwyl die lap bietjie roteer word, dit raak gou vuil.
Dan, lube gou met n bietjie wax.
Gebruik weer skoon gedeelte van die lap, en vee die excess af.
Nou staan jou bike tot jy weer ry, die wax sal lekker settle en sy werk doen.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 27, 2021, 10:54:04 am
Ek het nog nooit in my lewe n ketting gewas nie.

Ek vervang hom maar so elke 20 000km.

Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Dorsland on June 27, 2021, 11:07:48 am
As jy voel jy mt jou ketting was gebruik diesel.  Ander goeters gaan jou ketting opwetter.

Ek is met @2StrokeDan op hierdie onderwerp. Los hom net so.  Vervang wanneer ketting en tandratte moeg is.  Op my Bushlander het ek sy vervangingsketting nog nooit gewas nie en slegs na was met Q20 gespuit om roes te voorkom.  Hy hou langer as die OEM ketting wat ek gereeld geolie het.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Gerrard on June 27, 2021, 11:13:43 am
Die probleem met enige oplosmiddel om jou ketting te was, selffs soos diesel, is jy was die ghries in die rollers uit. Q20 !
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Dorsland on June 27, 2021, 11:16:36 am
Diesel! :lol8:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: subie on June 27, 2021, 11:18:31 am
Die probleem met enige oplosmiddel om jou ketting te was, selffs soos diesel, is jy was die ghries in die rollers uit. Q20 !

+1  :thumleft:
Belangrik ook is chain tension en bly ver weg met n high pressure washer van jou ketting af
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 27, 2021, 11:26:18 am
Die probleem met enige oplosmiddel om jou ketting te was, selffs soos diesel, is jy was die ghries in die rollers uit. Q20 !

+1  :thumleft:
Belangrik ook is chain tension en bly ver weg met n high pressure washer van jou ketting af

Bly weg met n high pressure washer van jou BIKE af!!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Altie7deLaan on June 27, 2021, 12:13:54 pm
Die probleem met enige oplosmiddel om jou ketting te was, selffs soos diesel, is jy was die ghries in die rollers uit. Q20 !

+1  :thumleft:
Belangrik ook is chain tension en bly ver weg met n high pressure washer van jou ketting af

Bly weg met n high pressure washer van jou BIKE af!!! :thumleft:

Absoluut. En degreasers ook maar `n nare ding.. Daar wat n sagte straal water en seep nie kan bykom nie, hoef `n man nie oor te komkommer nie.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Fenderbender on June 27, 2021, 12:53:01 pm
En daar dog ek dit geld net vir BMW"s     .............
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 27, 2021, 12:59:59 pm
En daar dog ek dit geld net vir BMW"s     .............

Ons praat nou van motorfietse....
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on June 27, 2021, 05:17:08 pm
Spuit hom sopnat met Q20. Ry hom en olie. Doen dit elke keer as jy van grondpad tip af kom. Mens was nie ketting nie

En as mens op plaas bly en elke dag grondpad ry?  :o

Ek was nooit my ketting nie, smeer net GO op, selfde goed wat Alfie Cox hulle gebruik en werk soos 'n bom.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Hando on June 27, 2021, 05:28:20 pm
Wat is die "bliksem" wat jylle van praat?? Paraffien??

https://autozone.co.za/brands/leading-brands/blixem

As jy n ding wat vol olie en gries is wil skoonmaak.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Nimmo on June 28, 2021, 08:00:39 am
Wat is die "bliksem" wat jylle van praat?? Paraffien??

https://autozone.co.za/brands/leading-brands/blixem

As jy n ding wat vol olie en gries is wil skoonmaak.

Jou vrou kan haar taai vuilgeid in storte en plekke in en om die huis ook was - werk soos 'n bom.  :thumleft:

Edit - Parafien en 'n kwas werk wonders, en is nie skadelik op die o-rings nie, is olierig  :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: jaybiker on June 28, 2021, 09:42:07 am
I reckon the answer is to do it your way.  I'll do it my way, and he'll do it his way, and maybe she'll do it her way. That's the best way.  :3some:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: petri oosthuizen on June 28, 2021, 10:00:55 am
Thanks - sal maar net Q20 as sy gewas word om roes te beheer.

Eks anyway maar 'n BAIE lui moer, en HAAT olie op enige body part.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Grunder on June 28, 2021, 10:07:47 am
Thanks - sal maar net Q20 as sy gewas word om roes te beheer.

Eks anyway maar 'n BAIE lui moer, en HAAT olie op enige body part.

ja bly weg van die ratkas olie dan... hy fling maar so bietjie  - op bike parts en heel moontlik op body parts  :deal:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Jamaj on June 28, 2021, 10:54:22 am
En daar dog ek dit geld net vir BMW"s     .............

Ons praat nou van motorfietse....
hahaha  :lol8:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: PLUTO on June 28, 2021, 11:32:02 am
high pressure hose water to get the mud and muck off.  Spray prepsol degreaser liberally on the chain and sprockets.  wait 10 min.  More high pressure hose water.

Repeat the process. 

Spin the wheel and dry chain with a hair dryer.

Lube.

Replace chain and sprockets after maximum 50 engine hours, or sooner if the sprocket teeth are getting that "hook" shape. 

this is for 250 enduro bike riding constantly in winter in mud and sandy conditions
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: ETS on June 28, 2021, 11:36:12 am
As jy voel jy mt jou ketting was gebruik diesel.  Ander goeters gaan jou ketting opwetter.

Ek is met @2StrokeDan op hierdie onderwerp. Los hom net so.  Vervang wanneer ketting en tandratte moeg is.  Op my Bushlander het ek sy vervangingsketting nog nooit gewas nie en slegs na was met Q20 gespuit om roes te voorkom.  Hy hou langer as die OEM ketting wat ek gereeld geolie het.


 :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Grunder on June 28, 2021, 11:36:34 am
Ok, so I think this thread had reached it's goal.

One person says wash with running water next says pressure hose.

One says clean the chain the other said don't.


Hope the OP found what he was looking for  :lol8: :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on June 28, 2021, 11:39:33 am
Paraffien en n ou tande borsel. Skrop liggies , maak skoon met n lappie en n bietjie ratkas olie vir lube.
Moet nooit parrafien gebruik, ketting se o-rings hou niks daarvan. :deal:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 28, 2021, 12:50:12 pm
high pressure hose water to get the mud and muck off.  Spray prepsol degreaser liberally on the chain and sprockets.  wait 10 min.  More high pressure hose water.

Repeat the process. 

Spin the wheel and dry chain with a hair dryer.

Lube.

Replace chain and sprockets after maximum 50 engine hours, or sooner if the sprocket teeth are getting that "hook" shape. 

this is for 250 enduro bike riding constantly in winter in mud and sandy conditions

Im holy about staying away from a high pressure hose. Unless you riding in mud all day there is no need to spray a bike with a very high pressure, stick to a normal hosepipe and a brush, works just as well without killing things like bearings.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 28, 2021, 12:56:14 pm
Ok, so I think this thread had reached it's goal.

One person says wash with running water next says pressure hose.

One says clean the chain the other said don't.


Hope the OP found what he was looking for  :lol8: :thumleft:

Guys who use high pressure hoses are either very rich , ie: they don't notice the damage it causes, or they are sponsored or they have new bikes which they sell for newer bikes every season or so. The reality is that a high pressure hose causes damage to a bike, it lifts sticker kits, it pushes water into bearings, it strips coatings off or everything, it eats at rubber etc, you will spend twice the amount of product trying to lube a bike after a high pressure hose has been on it.

Logically its a moving part, so it should be cleaned and lubed , even if it is an O ring or X ring, those chains still rust even if there is an O ring... if you dont mind rust then dont lube, personally I dont like rust so I lube

Ta daaa

Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Roxtar on June 28, 2021, 01:19:56 pm
Jy gaan baie verskillende opinies kry Petri.

Begin by n ordentlike ketting - O-ring of X-ring.  Ek olie my ketting elke keer as ek my bike was.  Vir my gaan dit oor roes voorkoming. 

Ek haat n wax, party manne glo net daaraan.  Wurth se dry lube is awesome, maar duur as jy baie lube.  Ek gebruik deesdae Spanjaard chain lube.

Ek glo nie regtig aan lube tydens n trip nie.  Jy trek net stof.

Hierdie is beste raad hier Petri.... as jy moet was gebruik net diesel en n lap om skoon te vee, die diesel is cheap, droog niks uit maar haal gunk af.... Mens kan niks regtig lube in rollers met goeie o of x ring ketting. Biki nat lubesoos WD40 nou n dan vir roes voorkoming al wat mens eintlik kan doen  :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: PLUTO on June 28, 2021, 02:21:59 pm
Have to agree that a high pressure hose in the wrong hands can do much damage to a motorcycle.  Same applies to most power tools in the wrong hands.

However if you operate your high pressure hose with finesse, it makes the cleaning job 30x easier, faster, and more efficient in terms of less water consumption. 

For example, a tyre doesn't care anything for high pressure water cleaning.  Nor does the underside of your mudguards.  Nor the chain.  Nor the back sprocket. nor the foot pegs.  Nor the underbelly skid plate.  That's almost half the bike that doesn't care about high pressure water cleaning.

Agreed; care and finesse with the high pressure cleaner for rest of the bike.  It is an easy "how to".  With the hose on, you just step back 1 m. 

Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Karoo Rider on June 28, 2021, 02:47:24 pm
Ek wou net laasweek ook vra oor kettings en hul maintenance so nou hoef ek nie verder te worry nie - lyk my anything goes! ;D
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Kobus Myburgh on June 28, 2021, 05:59:16 pm
Have to agree that a high pressure hose in the wrong hands can do much damage to a motorcycle.  Same applies to most power tools in the wrong hands.

However if you operate your high pressure hose with finesse, it makes the cleaning job 30x easier, faster, and more efficient in terms of less water consumption. 

For example, a tyre doesn't care anything for high pressure water cleaning.  Nor does the underside of your mudguards.  Nor the chain.  Nor the back sprocket. nor the foot pegs.  Nor the underbelly skid plate.  That's almost half the bike that doesn't care about high pressure water cleaning.

Agreed; care and finesse with the high pressure cleaner for rest of the bike.  It is an easy "how to".  With the hose on, you just step back 1 m.


I agree.  Ive owned my little pressure washer since 2004 and its cleaned every bike since owned.  Yet to find any damage because of that.

Prepsol, Blixem, Dirt Nurse, they all work.  Just dont spray it on your windshield.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: dw1 on June 28, 2021, 05:59:16 pm
@petri oosthuizen i

Koop 'n R80G/S dan hoef jy nie te worry nie   :laughing4:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Saddle Up on June 28, 2021, 06:15:09 pm
Ketting skoon maak prosedure, of band keuse, is n bietjie, soos om n girl te kies, wat nice is vir een ou, is dalk n ramp vir n ander

Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 28, 2021, 06:20:00 pm
Petri

Koop 'n R80G/S dan hoef jy nie te worry nie   :laughing4:

Hoekom worry oor n ketting as jy oor n FD kan worry?  Dink groot! :thumleft:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: RyC on June 28, 2021, 06:24:49 pm
Some food for thought

https://youtu.be/VnPYdcbcAe0

And then

https://youtu.be/VnPYdcbcAe0
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Karoo Rider on June 28, 2021, 07:11:47 pm
Some food for thought

https://youtu.be/VnPYdcbcAe0

And then

https://youtu.be/VnPYdcbcAe0

Quite an eye opener.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Noneking on June 28, 2021, 07:27:21 pm
Have to agree that a high pressure hose in the wrong hands can do much damage to a motorcycle.  Same applies to most power tools in the wrong hands.

However if you operate your high pressure hose with finesse, it makes the cleaning job 30x easier, faster, and more efficient in terms of less water consumption. 

For example, a tyre doesn't care anything for high pressure water cleaning.  Nor does the underside of your mudguards.  Nor the chain.  Nor the back sprocket. nor the foot pegs.  Nor the underbelly skid plate.  That's almost half the bike that doesn't care about high pressure water cleaning.

Agreed; care and finesse with the high pressure cleaner for rest of the bike.  It is an easy "how to".  With the hose on, you just step back 1 m.
Some sense at last..
Jy kan jou pinkie in jou &@ afbreek met genoeg geweld..
I use pressure wash with care and works well for me without causing any issues
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 28, 2021, 07:43:03 pm
Have to agree that a high pressure hose in the wrong hands can do much damage to a motorcycle.  Same applies to most power tools in the wrong hands.

However if you operate your high pressure hose with finesse, it makes the cleaning job 30x easier, faster, and more efficient in terms of less water consumption. 

For example, a tyre doesn't care anything for high pressure water cleaning.  Nor does the underside of your mudguards.  Nor the chain.  Nor the back sprocket. nor the foot pegs.  Nor the underbelly skid plate.  That's almost half the bike that doesn't care about high pressure water cleaning.

Agreed; care and finesse with the high pressure cleaner for rest of the bike.  It is an easy "how to".  With the hose on, you just step back 1 m.
Some sense at last..
Jy kan jou pinkie in jou &@ afbreek met genoeg geweld..
I use pressure wash with care and works well for me without causing any issues

Except tht the rear end of the underbelly skidplate ends right near the........swingarm bearings :eek7:

And the chain, which apparently does not care about high pressure water through it's "O" ring seals, pivots at two ends at oil seals and bearings. :eek7:
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Altie7deLaan on June 28, 2021, 09:49:23 pm
Uhm...
Die joetjoep video is bietjie misleidend.
Al die apllications is via n pressurised can, hoe dan nou met die gear olie?
As jy vryhand dit moet opsit, is dit nie eweredig nie. Maar wel oorbodig, so maak nie seker eintlik saak nie.

Dit is eintlik hoekom n scott oiler so goed werk, drup dun olue op die binnekant van jou ketting wat dan deur die ketting werk na buite.
Dit lube jou rollers en oorkom roes, ten koste van n bietjie gemors?
Of baie gemors, afhangend van jou dosing  rate.
Title: Re: How to Clean a Chain and Sprockets Correctly??
Post by: Tampan on June 29, 2021, 06:19:15 am
Soos al genoem. Kry n goeie ketting en karring so min as moontlik met hom.
As jy moet, vee hom skoon met n lap en lube met enige goeie dry lube, maar nie te veel nie. As jy grondpaaie ry, bly weg van enige wet lube of olie. Dit trek stof en sand, wat nie goed is vir jou ketting nie en dit maak n MOERSE gemors, veral rondom die voorste sprocket.

As ek bv my bike by n handelaar laat diens, gee ek hulle baie uitdruklik opdrag om NIE aan die ketting te raak nie. Baie van hulle spuit n lube op wat glad nie met grondpaaie saamwerk nie en dit maak so taai aanpaksel om die voorste sprocket wat bitter moeilik skoonmaak.