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Title: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Noneking on July 21, 2021, 05:25:44 am
Triumph expanding their range of bikes to include MotoX , Enduro and Dual Sport bikes,

Didn’t see that coming…..

https://www.advpulse.com/adv-news/triumph-confirms-dirt-bikes-and-dual-sport-motorcycles-are-coming/?fbclid=IwAR1S-JoOoM5juTxac6Of14MQ10tbqe405erl_SrY_ug9iw3DazKSFL4s728
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Vintage_Mania on July 21, 2021, 05:32:29 am
That will be a welcome relief to orange, white and red KTM's?
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 21, 2021, 07:43:11 am
This is indeed highly surprising, and great news.

When Triumph embarked on their current range, John Bloor went to great trouble ensuring efficient production with good quality control, and he copied the Japanese system.

Now in this new venture, Triumph again is turning to the experts in this segment, the people who successfully raced these type of machines.

The right attitude, I would say.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Dwerg on July 21, 2021, 08:04:49 am
That is unexpected for sure! Their quality of late has been second to none so I can’t wait to see the result
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Tony the Boney on July 21, 2021, 08:09:01 am
This is a bold move into a strong market
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: m0lt3n on July 21, 2021, 08:32:07 am
Triumph is featuring more and more as a serious contender in the adventure market, this will be very interesting to keep an eye on
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: roxenz on July 21, 2021, 08:56:44 am
I've always thought of Triumph bikes as somewhat like Landrover Defenders, old tech, underpowered, weekends spent fixing and not riding. But the current crop are very impressive! A friend had one of the first 1200 Explorers and I crawled over and under it to check it out (he was a bit bemused, I was paying more attention to the building quality than he cared about). I was impressed. I think by now we all know that the Explorers and Tigers are extremely reliable. And if I could afford another bike, I'd most likely look at the 1200 Scrambler, which really tickles me.

So good to see Triumph to have earned their place as a viable option when thinking of a new adventure bike. And I look forward with interest on what they may come up with in  line of smaller bikes, where I see a real gap between the segment of high performance (expensive to run) enduro bikes and the segment of  pap, overweight "adventure" bikes.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: AfricaOffroad on July 21, 2021, 09:21:42 am
Hope they do it better than BMW did
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: edgy on July 21, 2021, 09:29:24 am
 :lol8:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: mtr89 on July 21, 2021, 09:34:45 am
It would be great for them to have some pics, even if they're concept drawings, for us to have an idea of what they'll look like.
Even more important, will there be any two-strokes?
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: BuRP on July 21, 2021, 09:51:46 am
Hmmmmm, perhaps we'll see a Triumph twostroke then also?
Superenduro's ruled by these so......
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 21, 2021, 01:11:23 pm
Hope they do it better than BMW did

Shame man, BMW started off with a Boxer scrambler. It could only be downhill from there. :pot:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: petri oosthuizen on July 21, 2021, 01:12:12 pm
Nice......I never thought of Triumph as being "into" dirt racing etc etc, although I love the Tiger.

Exciting news.

And this, from that article.............https://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/triumph-grabs-impressive-finish-at-mexican-1000-on-scrambler-1200/

5th overall on a stock standard bike, competing against MUCH lighter ones............ :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: CycleC on July 21, 2021, 02:08:17 pm
Hope they do it better than BMW did

Amen to that, if they are going to make MX and Enduro bikes they better do it properly and be better if not match the current range of MX/ Enduro bikes. Really no use making a heap of sh*t like that 450 BMW, Anyone with half a brain could see that the BM was destined to fail. Hopefully they can make a Top of the range of 2 stroke Enduro bikes to compete with KTM as well as a full range of MX bikes.
I am hoping with RC in there corner he will at least add some proper information and ensure a top quality product. I will take my hat off to Triumph who's MD must have a set of Iron balls to venture into this market under the current circumstances- Good Luck !!
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: IanTheTooth on July 21, 2021, 02:13:21 pm
I had a little snigger when I read the title of this post.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Fransw on July 22, 2021, 08:28:51 am
Good news!

Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Fransw on July 22, 2021, 08:36:08 am
This is a bold move into a strong market

Not for good quality machines imo..
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: BuRP on July 22, 2021, 08:53:52 am
Not for good quality machines imo..

I will disagree with you on that!
John Bloor (read: Mr. Triumph himself!) is known for driving the quality of his products, a thing I remember reading when this brand re-started.
Look now, Triumphs are a good quality, and actually they've had very few fuckups in this regard!
Yeah, that's roadbikes, sure.... but when the same dude decides to publicize that they'll venture into the offroad market then I bet their homework has been largely done already, with bikes sortof ready even - and their quality must be of a good-enough standard that he's happy with the overall quality hence his OK to announce their new-for-them avenue into the Off market  :thumleft:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: mark250gp on July 22, 2021, 09:22:41 am
Found a leaked pic on the web.

(https://i.postimg.cc/K85zPwHt/Whats-App-Image-2021-07-22-at-07-40-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVJDZ2Zb)
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Vintage_Mania on July 22, 2021, 09:25:26 am
This is a bold move into a strong market

Not for good quality machines imo..

Have to agree. If they keep with their current and longstanding quality machinery they will have all the success they deserve.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: lowrider on July 22, 2021, 09:35:19 am
Found a leaked pic on the web.

(https://i.postimg.cc/K85zPwHt/Whats-App-Image-2021-07-22-at-07-40-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVJDZ2Zb)

 :laughing4:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: jaybiker on July 22, 2021, 10:16:41 am
They wouldn't be the only firm to just take another manufacturer's bike and stick their badge on it.  >:D
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Beserker on July 22, 2021, 11:05:10 am
Racing against 13 year old bikes, I might add    :ricky:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: hawkeye on July 22, 2021, 04:12:39 pm
Found a leaked pic on the web.

(https://i.postimg.cc/K85zPwHt/Whats-App-Image-2021-07-22-at-07-40-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVJDZ2Zb)

With a KTM pipe     :imaposer:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Fransw on July 22, 2021, 06:26:01 pm
Not for good quality machines imo..

I will disagree with you on that!
John Bloor (read: Mr. Triumph himself!) is known for driving the quality of his products, a thing I remember reading when this brand re-started.
Look now, Triumphs are a good quality, and actually they've had very few fuckups in this regard!
Yeah, that's roadbikes, sure.... but when the same dude decides to publicize that they'll venture into the offroad market then I bet their homework has been largely done already, with bikes sortof ready even - and their quality must be of a good-enough standard that he's happy with the overall quality hence his OK to announce their new-for-them avenue into the Off market  :thumleft:

Ons stem eintlik saam. Wt ek bedoel het is dat daar eintlik ruimte is vir n goeie kwaliteit masjien al is die mark baie crowded... Ek is baie opgewonde oor hierdie!  Capish! :thumleft:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Wolzak on July 22, 2021, 07:09:56 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: BuRP on July 22, 2021, 09:22:34 pm
Capish!

Si Senor  :P
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: sidetrack on July 23, 2021, 10:07:22 am
Found a leaked pic on the web.

(https://i.postimg.cc/K85zPwHt/Whats-App-Image-2021-07-22-at-07-40-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVJDZ2Zb)

With a KTM pipe     :imaposer:
But they will tell you it has another linkage and different suspension so definitely not a KTM  :biggrin:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: voorvel on July 23, 2021, 04:03:43 pm
Here is the thing though; even after so many years, the Japs are still not able to make up the weight difference to the KTM, and after 20 years, finally started adding e-start + hydraulic clutch

So let me be the first to state that the Triumph will be:
1) underpowered
2) over weight
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2021, 08:55:05 pm
Here is the thing though; even after so many years, the Japs are still not able to make up the weight difference to the KTM, and after 20 years, finally started adding e-start + hydraulic clutch

So let me be the first to state that the Triumph will be:
1) underpowered
2) over weight
 :peepwall:




I am truly perplexed with the Japs' apparent dismissive attitude toward competition off-road bikes.

The Japs brought the world mass production electric start, yet they cannot get to fit them to their offroad bikes.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2021, 11:04:31 pm
Suzuki has the Yellow, Kawa the lime green,

Honda's are red, and Yammies blue.

Ktm's are citrussy while Husky is white.

Which colour for Triumph offroaders?

There's still pink left, as is Lilac, brown and triple black.

But triple black makes a bike slack.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: skydiver on July 24, 2021, 07:39:28 am
Maybe they will be camo ..... that way, if they do not perform well, they can disappear before anyone notice them.  :pot:
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: Bill the Bong on July 24, 2021, 01:56:08 pm
Suzuki has the Yellow, Kawa the lime green,

Honda's are red, and Yammies blue.

Ktm's are citrussy while Husky is white.

Which colour for Triumph offroaders?

There's still pink left, as is Lilac, brown and triple black.

But triple black makes a bike slack.


Old Triumphs used to be silver
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 24, 2021, 05:40:19 pm
Suzuki has the Yellow, Kawa the lime green,

Honda's are red, and Yammies blue.

Ktm's are citrussy while Husky is white.

Which colour for Triumph offroaders?

There's still pink left, as is Lilac, brown and triple black.

But triple black makes a bike slack.


Old Triumphs used to be silver

Indeed. But I cannot picture a silver MX/enduro bike. :eek7:  Unless it's a BSA...... :ricky: with titanium frame.
Title: Re: So who’s buying a Triumph for next year’s Roof?
Post by: sackett on July 24, 2021, 08:19:11 pm
They will be Khaki Green!!!