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Title: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on July 28, 2021, 12:35:10 pm
Hello people of the internet,

Quick background, we (myself, wife, 2x dogs) find ourselves with some excess free time on our hands and an equally hungry appetite for adventure before entering our dreaded 30's. We've been waiting for the embassy to allow us into the country we're emigrating too however covid has dealt its fair share of blows so last year I bought a Defender, kitted it out and we spent about 6 weeks touring as off the beaten track as possible - then the embassy said come along we're open, sold the landy only for the embassy to close the gates again leaving us in limbo until the gates eventually open.

I've been eyeing the market for a little motorhome for us to tour around SA for 2-3 months, but have little to know knowledge aside from renting one of those Maui campers for a few weeks.

With an old motorhome like this you could potentially be looking at old vehicle problems as well as old caravan problems bundled into one - which is a concern. Can anyone with some knowledge in the field weigh in on what potential problems there are with a 20 year old caravan/motorhome, is this a potential black pit or are they relatively straight forward?

Looking specifically to get a Mitsubishi L300,  and tow the 990 behind it, they seem to have quite a strong following in SA

Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Tommy Transalp on July 28, 2021, 12:47:57 pm
A lot of privately owned motorhomes are older, but not high mileage... You'll probably have to  some maintenance on a used unit, but  it'll more than likely be plastics and rubber parts. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on July 28, 2021, 01:01:54 pm
I wanted one of these very badly - then I went to the Kruger with some mates who have one - thank goodness I took my caping trailer....

The resulting thoughts on my behalf is that you have a caravan that you have to take everywhere with you - so you stop at a camp in the Kruger and you want to go on a game drive..... You have to pack everything up, leave, come back to someone else on the site you thought you had......
And you cant go down some roads because they are too narrow.....
And the fuel costs are the same as a car & small caravan....
BUT - no trailer with a 990 on it.....

My mates eventually bought another BIG Venter trailer to leave at the camp - they have a scooter in it, washer, dryer, another fridge/freezer, work-bench etc., but they also travel for 4-6 months a tear as well.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: DapperMuis on July 29, 2021, 04:40:34 am
Rent a few options on kampi.co.za before committing,


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Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on August 17, 2021, 09:44:10 am
Meet Betsie, a true barn find one owner 60k km 1994 model, as original as the day it left the WJ factory and the last edition of the WJ Mitsu's to be made.

Same age as the wife, both have questionable handling and performance but gets the job done.

Title: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Psycho Porra on August 17, 2021, 09:55:19 am

Same age as the wife, both have questionable handling and performance but gets the job done.

Brave man you are

Great looking motorhome


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Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Buff on August 17, 2021, 11:47:41 am
 :laughing4: Very cool looking old rig (the Campervan)  ;) :thumleft:
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Post by: Chukudeer on August 17, 2021, 11:51:17 am
Looks like plenty fun  :thumleft:.....the caravan  ::)
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: RyanI on August 17, 2021, 03:58:47 pm
Keen to hear how your adventure travels go. Maybe keep a thread going on it? also keen to hear about life in a camper van as we are renting a caravan next month to see how that goes - as opposed to normal camping.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on August 30, 2021, 09:01:34 am
Made it back to Hermanus with Betsie, picked it up in CPT and had it serviced, carb cleaned and reset and all the bits that a 27 year old would need.

The 990 is riding on the back as emergency tow vehicle  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Dwerg on August 30, 2021, 11:07:24 am
Made it back to Hermanus with Betsie, picked it up in CPT and had it serviced, carb cleaned and reset and all the bits that a 27 year old would need.

The 990 is riding on the back as emergency tow vehicle  :imaposer:

Nice. I tried convincing my wife to try living in a camper permanently but she didn't bite so we moved down instead. I'll still do it someday
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on September 14, 2021, 08:40:43 am
Few updates on the old girl, we’re doing the month of October on the road, 990 on the back, wife and dogs on the inside, so updated and brought the inside into the 2020’s a bit.

Bathroom before and after

Had a bed made to spec from swissmate, no sleeping on the cushions

Updated the flooring, changed the cupboards, took all the old 12v fluorescent lights out and replaced with LED’s, as well as a small kitchen update

Lastly for now added a small projector cinema setup in the back for F1 Sunday's when we’re on the road and occasional movie night if it’s storming outside. The screen rolls away into the curtain corner and the project shines out of the cupboard above.

We spent a few nights next to a river last week living out of Betsie

We’re waiting to hear if we can leave SA at the end of Oct, if our paperwork comes through then this old girl will go for sale.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: roxenz on September 14, 2021, 01:58:03 pm
Great job Etienne! The "old lady" looks quite sexy.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Knucklhead on September 14, 2021, 04:03:24 pm
Few updates on the old girl, weíre doing the month of October on the road, 990 on the back, wife and dogs on the inside, so updated and brought the inside into the 2020ís a bit.

Bathroom before and after

Had a bed made to spec from swissmate, no sleeping on the cushions

Updated the flooring, changed the cupboards, took all the old 12v fluorescent lights out and replaced with LEDís, as well as a small kitchen update

Lastly for now added a small projector cinema setup in the back for F1 Sunday's when weíre on the road and occasional movie night if itís storming outside. The screen rolls away into the curtain corner and the project shines out of the cupboard above.

We spent a few nights next to a river last week living out of Betsie

Weíre waiting to hear if we can leave SA at the end of Oct, if our paperwork comes through then this old girl will go for sale.


leaving, the dogs too ? mooi campervan that  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on September 14, 2021, 04:16:08 pm
Few updates on the old girl, weíre doing the month of October on the road, 990 on the back, wife and dogs on the inside, so updated and brought the inside into the 2020ís a bit.

Bathroom before and after

Had a bed made to spec from swissmate, no sleeping on the cushions

Updated the flooring, changed the cupboards, took all the old 12v fluorescent lights out and replaced with LEDís, as well as a small kitchen update

Lastly for now added a small projector cinema setup in the back for F1 Sunday's when weíre on the road and occasional movie night if itís storming outside. The screen rolls away into the curtain corner and the project shines out of the cupboard above.

We spent a few nights next to a river last week living out of Betsie

Weíre waiting to hear if we can leave SA at the end of Oct, if our paperwork comes through then this old girl will go for sale.


leaving, the dogs too ? mooi campervan that  :thumleft:

Thank you  :thumleft:

Quite a process getting them across the pond as most Airlines don't want to fly the breed..but they're coming, their crates are ready  :3some:

Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Knucklhead on September 14, 2021, 07:49:30 pm
Few updates on the old girl, weíre doing the month of October on the road, 990 on the back, wife and dogs on the inside, so updated and brought the inside into the 2020ís a bit.

Bathroom before and after

Had a bed made to spec from swissmate, no sleeping on the cushions

Updated the flooring, changed the cupboards, took all the old 12v fluorescent lights out and replaced with LEDís, as well as a small kitchen update

Lastly for now added a small projector cinema setup in the back for F1 Sunday's when weíre on the road and occasional movie night if itís storming outside. The screen rolls away into the curtain corner and the project shines out of the cupboard above.

We spent a few nights next to a river last week living out of Betsie

Weíre waiting to hear if we can leave SA at the end of Oct, if our paperwork comes through then this old girl will go for sale.


leaving, the dogs too ? mooi campervan that  :thumleft:

Thank you  :thumleft:

Quite a process getting them across the pond as most Airlines don't want to fly the breed..but they're coming, their crates are ready  :3some:

Legend  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Karoo Rider on September 14, 2021, 09:29:36 pm
I like these - my dad had a Mishu combi in the mid 80's which serves us well for many years. Never had a day's problem with it.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: SlŠinte Mhaith on September 14, 2021, 11:10:08 pm
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Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 15, 2021, 07:20:18 am
Wow, love the van looks like a comfortable place to take a long break
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Black_Hawk on September 15, 2021, 08:10:37 am
I think you found a gem in both of the '94 models. Great looking camper and I like the "renovations" that you've done.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Gerrard on September 15, 2021, 06:42:56 pm
 :patch:
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on September 15, 2021, 06:51:05 pm
:patch:



Pre trip precautions today replacing all the old gas lines there was a faint smell so opted to change all pipes and fittings throughout, one of the bigger jobs with a lot less fun factor but nice when it comes together and works as you anticipated

Soapy splatter on the wood confirms no leaks and then a celebratory beer to myself  because I made the effort to go to the gas shop and go through a days effort so that I don’t have to get up and open the gas cylinder every time  the stove or geyser wants to be used..
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Gerrard on September 16, 2021, 12:17:21 pm
What's it like to drive ? First time for me in the week to take  Camper, 1984 Bedford Prospector, for a drive I shat myself. But must add this thing was a piece of crap mechanically and would need the whole chassis, suspension, engine drive train etc rebuilt.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: ktmmer on September 16, 2021, 01:08:04 pm
Meet Betsie, a true barn find one owner 60k km 1994 model, as original as the day it left the WJ factory and the last edition of the WJ Mitsu's to be made.

Same age as the wife, both have questionable handling and performance but gets the job done.

A poor workman often blame their tools.  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Dorsland on September 16, 2021, 01:14:47 pm
Julle spul gee my nou erge jukvoete
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: El Zeffo on September 16, 2021, 02:58:03 pm
I've always dreamt about a camper and almost got one before i bought my flat in Mosselbay.

I might just do it in the States though. The RVs over here are awesome.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on September 20, 2021, 09:21:25 am
I've always dreamt about a camper and almost got one before i bought my flat in Mosselbay.

I might just do it in the States though. The RVs over here are awesome.

RV or van-life movement, like anything in the US is so much more accessible especially with Public land (camp where you want for free because itís your right 😀 ) we have big dreams of overlanding that side, Alaska to Mexico style. Are you that side now CS?
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: El Zeffo on September 20, 2021, 03:27:53 pm
I've always dreamt about a camper and almost got one before i bought my flat in Mosselbay.

I might just do it in the States though. The RVs over here are awesome.

RV or van-life movement, like anything in the US is so much more accessible especially with Public land (camp where you want for free because itís your right 😀 ) we have big dreams of overlanding that side, Alaska to Mexico style. Are you that side now CS?

Just flew back bud. In Pretoria now.
Title: Re: Motorhome/Caravan Experts weigh in please
Post by: Etienne2T on September 24, 2021, 06:36:02 pm
Some lovely braai day action, we found this spot on the KTM this morning only 10min from the house - first time running the fridge offí gas and it worked a charm
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2021, 11:35:26 am
A month on the road starts today, first week in the cederberg/tulbach area thereafter no plans yet aside from wanting to get over to the West Coast, would love to eventually go through verneukpan again and revisit there for a night or two we have fond memories of staying there last year.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: El Zeffo on September 30, 2021, 11:41:06 am
Mooi fotos.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: dieseldawie on September 30, 2021, 11:47:59 am
What engine is in it?
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: woody1 on September 30, 2021, 11:56:25 am
Lekker.  Geniet die trip
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on September 30, 2021, 12:36:28 pm
Jurre, how kak was you Braai Day?

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Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2021, 02:28:49 pm
What engine is in it?

Mitsu 2.0l petrol - upon researching you realize itís the same block that got used in the turbo charged lancer platform - there is actually one of these floating around in SA with a turbo kit on but a popular mod seems to be the 3.2 triton automatic motor that they put in there.
But Iím plenty happy with the standard motor in standard trim, bulletproof piece of mind and the mechanics of it resemble my first 125cc as a kid.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: dieseldawie on September 30, 2021, 02:53:47 pm
What engine is in it?

Mitsu 2.0l petrol - upon researching you realize itís the same block that got used in the turbo charged lancer platform - there is actually one of these floating around in SA with a turbo kit on but a popular mod seems to be the 3.2 triton automatic motor that they put in there.
But Iím plenty happy with the standard motor in standard trim, bulletproof piece of mind and the mechanics of it resemble my first 125cc as a kid.

Thanks. That is a strong motor. Plenty of torque. I don't suppose you actually want speed in something that shape. My colt V6 Bakkie of a similar vintage is bulletproof. It just really likes petrol a lot.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on September 30, 2021, 03:04:59 pm
What engine is in it?

Mitsu 2.0l petrol - upon researching you realize itís the same block that got used in the turbo charged lancer platform - there is actually one of these floating around in SA with a turbo kit on but a popular mod seems to be the 3.2 triton automatic motor that they put in there.
But Iím plenty happy with the standard motor in standard trim, bulletproof piece of mind and the mechanics of it resemble my first 125cc as a kid.

Thanks. That is a strong motor. Plenty of torque. I don't suppose you actually want speed in something that shape. My colt V6 Bakkie of a similar vintage is bulletproof. It just really likes petrol a lot.

The less speed the better for sure, itís essentially a bloated shoe box on wheelbarrow rims and tyres. The lack of speed is a safety feature 😂
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on October 01, 2021, 05:00:07 pm
Last minute necessary addition, fastened down and plumped into the 220v mains

Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Greenshields on October 02, 2021, 09:58:29 am
Great looking rig-where's the MTB rack?
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on October 07, 2021, 08:01:32 am
The morning started off in Stellenbosch with Betsie getting some much needed new shoes, the tyres were marked for 2003 so theyíve been on there for near 18 years and showed lots of signs of cracking. The tyre shop offered white-walls to which I politely declined however to make some taxi money on the side could be lucrative.

A strong tailwind blew us through the Breede Valley and into the Matroosberg for the next few days, a lovely spot at the foot of the mountain that normally sees every white fortuner from belville during snow season.

Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: El Zeffo on October 07, 2021, 08:38:59 am
Man that looks lekker.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: m0lt3n on October 07, 2021, 09:29:04 am
you are definitely making the most of being in-limbo. This is awesome
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: madmax on October 07, 2021, 10:34:42 am
im keen to keep eye on thred for if van comes on market at acceptable proce etc
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on October 08, 2021, 09:04:30 am
im keen to keep eye on thred for if van comes on market at acceptable proce etc

3 guys have expressed interest and are ďin lineĒ but Iíll list it accordingly once we have to sell - R189 000 not neg. Willing to do a 10% discount for someone who pays for it in Crypto.

Day loop through the cederberg, not often you get to come through here with no luggage, roads are knackered though if itís this corrugated on a bike it would be hell by car.

Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on October 13, 2021, 10:29:07 am
West Coast for a few days, thanks to the forum for recommending a spot to camp.

Wife got to go in the waves, I got to go in the sand - I guess thatís whatís referred to in the marriage industry as a ďfairĒ compromise.

Bit of admin and crayfish & beer sampling before we head to the next destination.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: 0012 on October 13, 2021, 10:56:55 am
awesome thread, sub!!
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on October 16, 2021, 07:44:10 pm
Back into the mountains from the coast, first time taking betsie on gravel, all went surprisingly well albeit slow going, but we were able to nestle in nicely next to the river for a good few days. Sneaky oil heater hidden in the cupboard helped the 2-3c nights, fair bit of rain was compensated for with red wine and chess inside.

Likely wonít take the 990 with again on the back, in theory it sounds great but itís more of a hassle than the experience is worth when youíre trying to have a ďcampingĒ experience. Let 990 trips be 990 trips on their own.

We want to return to some national parks next so trying to come up with a route the long way around to Addo for now.
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Etienne2T on October 27, 2021, 06:37:32 pm
Still on the road, we had to do a suspension replacement as the rear leaf springs sagged, all good and ready we hit the road ago slowly making our way to Addo via the southern coast. Quite a few weather days means more time inside, really is nice arriving and all you have to do is plug in the 220v plug 😅
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: mike gs on October 27, 2021, 08:37:51 pm
What a kak jol!

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Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: petri oosthuizen on October 27, 2021, 09:10:25 pm
Sorry if a silly question...but is this for sale, advertised in here?
I saw a L300 4 sale, cant find the link
Thanks
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on October 28, 2021, 05:12:00 am
Sorry if a silly question...but is this for sale, advertised in here?
I saw a L300 4 sale, cant find the link
Thanks

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=263015.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Motorhome Advice/Adventures of Betsie the L300
Post by: Gerrard on November 09, 2021, 05:15:26 pm
I moved the thread here as Ettiene is done with it. Its also a nice read.

Also a good indicator at what you looking at for a top end L300, as opposed to mine which was a tight budget buy. In the end you get what you pay for.