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Title: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 30, 2021, 10:36:07 am
So SARS decided to afford me the opportunity to get some of my tax back.  So I have a few things to do with it and over this weekend I was browsing Facebook and other markets to see what is available in the R55k max price class.  Then I see other bikes like the Suszuki DL250 V Strom and BMW 310GS at under R70k and I start to get confused.

I had GI JANE my KLR.  Loved her, but she gave me a lot of shit.  Then I had Candy my 2007 650 V Strom which I sold as I did not ride that much and I had to use the money when i bought my house.
Now i am very confused about what I want.  All I know is I don't want a heavy bike.  I am 100kg and ride alone so hopefully the smaller CC should not be a problem.

What am I to do?  Saw the thread of a new vs old bike too.  How much is age and kilos really having an issue?

Is BMW really so expensive compared to other brands when servicing?  Spares I know can be costly?

I am open minded about any brand as long as I have a comfy seat.

Then I see this:

https://www.autotrader.co.za/bike-for-sale/honda/nc/26138254?vf=1&db=0&s360=0&so=0&pl=0

https://www.autotrader.co.za/bike-for-sale/suzuki/dl/25962215?vf=3&db=0&s360=0&so=0&pl=0

https://www.autotrader.co.za/bike-for-sale/kawasaki/klr-650/26180328?vf=2&db=1&s360=0&so=1&pl=1

https://www.autotrader.co.za/bike-for-sale/crosby/adventure-400/25571712?vf=1&db=0&s360=0&so=0&pl=0  - Don't know this but seems cute

 
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 30, 2021, 10:40:22 am
Cant help you.. asking someone to pick a bike for you is like asking someone to pick your wife.  :imaposer:

Get on the bike, ride it.. make up your mind.

I like Honda, someone else likes KTM and someone else likes Sizuki.. that's the answers you are going to get

Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 30, 2021, 10:43:48 am
Cant help you.. asking someone to pick a bike for you is like asking someone to pick your wife.  :imaposer:

Get on the bike, ride it.. make up your mind.

I like Honda, someone else likes KTM and someone else likes Sizuki.. that's the answers you are going to get

Yes i know that.  More about old vs new vs comfy vs ... ag fok ek is confused
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: dirtyXT on August 30, 2021, 10:44:27 am
on a similar journey, smaller is better.

check this out : https://www.samotorcycles.co.za/voge-300ds

having said that, for me KLX300 is the bees knees, but so far i don't think it is coming to us. consider a XR650L there are a couple floating around for 50k.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Grunder on August 30, 2021, 11:02:09 am
Cant help you.. asking someone to pick a bike for you is like asking someone to pick your wife.  :imaposer:

Get on the bike, ride it.. make up your mind.

I like Honda, someone else likes KTM and someone else likes Sizuki.. that's the answers you are going to get
He said nothing about the last bike so nobody likes that then
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 30, 2021, 11:04:28 am
on a similar journey, smaller is better.

check this out : https://www.samotorcycles.co.za/voge-300ds

having said that, for me KLX300 is the bees knees, but so far i don't think it is coming to us. consider a XR650L there are a couple floating around for 50k.

I saw the VOGE.  That is beautiful, but also not sure ?   backup?
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 30, 2021, 11:10:55 am
Cant help you.. asking someone to pick a bike for you is like asking someone to pick your wife.  :imaposer:

Get on the bike, ride it.. make up your mind.

I like Honda, someone else likes KTM and someone else likes Sizuki.. that's the answers you are going to get

Yes i know that.  More about old vs new vs comfy vs ... ag fok ek is confused

With R1000 you can make almost any uncomfortable seat comfortable, I think I paid R650 to have my KLE500 seat redone and its as plush as you can get now... That would'nt feature as a criteria for a bike if it was me, I would look more to match the bike to the ride.

I do rally style riding for which I have a CRF450x rally bike, for adventure riding I have a Transalp 700 and an Africa Twin 1000, now I'm looking for something I can do enduro with actually considering a 2T for the 1st time

For R50k you are limited, so the decision should really be quite simple in terms of what is available.. With second hand bike prices as they are I would match a bike to the riding you are doing and when you see one come up for sale, grab it.

I'm also around 100kg, I can tell you that the 250/300cc wont cut it unless its a performance bike, so for example I had a CRF250X, one of the best bush bikes I ever owned but I if I get on a new 250L now its just too pap, so not every 250 will give you the same ride

Why dont you just get a 650 V Strom again.. solid bike.

I know what you mean by confused.. at the moment I cant make up my mind between a KTM 350 4T or  300 2T.. 
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: dirtyXT on August 30, 2021, 11:12:20 am
on a similar journey, smaller is better.

check this out : https://www.samotorcycles.co.za/voge-300ds

having said that, for me KLX300 is the bees knees, but so far i don't think it is coming to us. consider a XR650L there are a couple floating around for 50k.

I saw the VOGE.  That is beautiful, but also not sure ?   backup?
not sure, but they have a large footprint, cant say anything about their support or spares situation, perhaps order from manufacturer as and when? could run into ordering delays or price fluctuations.

https://www.samotorcycles.co.za/store-locator

I forgot or missed the crosby in my last search. thank for that.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: sidetrack on August 30, 2021, 11:50:48 am
XT660Z if you are tall, XT660R if you are not
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: m0lt3n on August 30, 2021, 12:17:23 pm
I would say an oldish 1200GS would be cheapest to maintain of just about anything you are looking at...


Being the top seller means it has the biggest second hand parts bin out there
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: dirtyXT on August 30, 2021, 12:30:10 pm
I would say an oldish 1200GS would be cheapest to maintain of just about anything you are looking at...


Being the top seller means it has the biggest second hand parts bin out there
@2StrokeDan! this cannot be true.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 30, 2021, 12:54:20 pm
I would say an oldish 1200GS would be cheapest to maintain of just about anything you are looking at...


Being the top seller means it has the biggest second hand parts bin out there

a block of flats?
way too heavy

Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: 73 Peanut on August 30, 2021, 01:13:42 pm
What do you want to use the bike for and how tall are you ????   10%  gravel 90%  tar .  Give the guy's more info so that they can sell you something on the forum .
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 30, 2021, 01:16:39 pm
What do you want to use the bike for and how tall are you ????   10%  gravel 90%  tar .  Give the guy's more info so that they can sell you something on the forum .
1.83m tall
60% - 70% road
40% - 30% off if I go to the farm etc
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: m0lt3n on August 30, 2021, 03:45:34 pm
was the 650 vstrom heavy for you? How old are you?
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 30, 2021, 04:01:09 pm
was the 650 vstrom heavy for you? How old are you?

I am 50y old.  I am fit and strong but the 650 was getting too much for me in a sense,  Maybe taking it in and out where i stayed had to do with it.
I loved my 650 but lighter is where i want to go.  Then I might want to ride more.  Miss the little 200 of the farm.  Nimble
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: the ruffian on August 30, 2021, 04:51:14 pm
DR or XR... both lighter than v-strom or 660 or KLR ( 2nd Gen - first gen much lighter).

If youre only 50 - and fit and strong -  the DR and XR can feel quite nimble, especially if you dont compromise them with all sorts of bling...
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Gerrard on August 30, 2021, 05:04:54 pm
Ek voerl jou pyn. Ek is net so verward, want die eerste keer in jare is daar nie 'n bike wat ek wil koop nie  :lol8:

Jy kannie fout maak met daai 660 Z nie.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Grunder on August 30, 2021, 05:59:46 pm
Ek voerl jou pyn. Ek is net so verward, want die eerste keer in jare is daar nie 'n bike wat ek wil koop nie  8:

Jy kannie fout maak met daai 660 Z nie.
Is daar nie onlangs 2 bikes in die stal in nie?
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Gerrard on August 30, 2021, 06:30:56 pm
Ek voerl jou pyn. Ek is net so verward, want die eerste keer in jare is daar nie 'n bike wat ek wil koop nie  8:

Jy kannie fout maak met daai 660 Z nie.
Is daar nie onlangs 2 bikes in die stal in nie?

2 in en 2 uit. Maar die Guzzi vervul my so ek kannie dink wat ek nog moet nodig h nie.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Bliknrs on August 30, 2021, 06:39:29 pm
Jy kannie fout maak met daai 660 Z nie.
660z sal my keuse ook wees.
In jou budget is hulle dun gesaai.
Ek geniet my 450x baie. Lekker lig en wakker.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 30, 2021, 07:34:30 pm
I would say an oldish 1200GS would be cheapest to maintain of just about anything you are looking at...


Being the top seller means it has the biggest second hand parts bin out there
@2StrokeDan! this cannot be true.




Correct Dirty, this is indeed fake news.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: voorvel on August 30, 2021, 11:48:22 pm
Jy kannie fout maak met daai 660 Z nie.
660z sal my keuse ook wees.
In jou budget is hulle dun gesaai.
Ek geniet my 450x baie. Lekker lig en wakker.

+1
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: m0lt3n on August 31, 2021, 08:32:56 am
Jy kannie fout maak met daai 660 Z nie.
660z sal my keuse ook wees.
In jou budget is hulle dun gesaai.
Ek geniet my 450x baie. Lekker lig en wakker.

+1

reken jou 2 beste opsies is hier genoem.

660 Z, maar dalk bietjie hoog en swaar steeds. Hulle was besonder swaar as ek dit nie mis het nie, maag dalk swaarder as jou vstrom deur kom.
450 bmw thingamagic as jy meer speelerig wil verkeer.

Daai 250 honda opsies nie in jou prysklas nie? Ek het al Ben10 saam n vriend op een gedoen, ons het nie te veel vir hom gewag nie
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on August 31, 2021, 09:25:39 am
Ek sal maar soos enige ordentlike analis weer na die EXCEL sheets gaan en my eie comparisions begin maak.  Goed wat defnitief nie vir meeste saak gaan maak nie, mag dalk vir my.
Prys vs wat ek kry vir dit bly hoog op die lys.

660Z klink goed maar gewig is dalk issue. Dan kan ek maar weer V Strom doen ook.

Ek het gese ek is sterk en so aan, maar die rumatiek begin die joints moer.  Ek wil nie alleen sukkel as ek dalk erens om bliksem nie.  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: sidetrack on August 31, 2021, 09:36:38 am
Ek sal maar soos enige ordentlike analis weer na die EXCEL sheets gaan en my eie comparisions begin maak.  Goed wat defnitief nie vir meeste saak gaan maak nie, mag dalk vir my.
Prys vs wat ek kry vir dit bly hoog op die lys.

660Z klink goed maar gewig is dalk issue. Dan kan ek maar weer V Strom doen ook.

Ek het gese ek is sterk en so aan, maar die rumatiek begin die joints moer.  Ek wil nie alleen sukkel as ek dalk erens om bliksem nie.  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Ding is 660Z is baie top heavy en hoog, laat hom nog swaarder voel veral as sy groot tank vol is maar ek like daai bikes. Moet hom net nie vergelyk met n twin op die teer nie, dag en nag. Ek reken die XT660R kan werk vir jou  :thumleft:
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: skydiver on September 04, 2021, 10:43:09 am
@MegaPix
https://www.facebook.com/groups/456213278070593/permalink/1466700273688550/?sale_post_id=1466700273688550
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Grunder on September 04, 2021, 11:22:44 am
@MegaPix
https://www.facebook.com/groups/456213278070593/permalink/1466700273688550/?sale_post_id=1466700273688550
Wow! KOOP HOM!!
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on September 06, 2021, 10:08:42 am
@MegaPix
https://www.facebook.com/groups/456213278070593/permalink/1466700273688550/?sale_post_id=1466700273688550
Wow! KOOP HOM!!

Ek het hom gesien.  Net effe ver vir my
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Bliknrs on September 07, 2021, 06:57:05 am
Ek weet darem nie. Almal gaan nou hulle 250s probeer swaai.
Hulle behoort so rondom 45k te wees in n goeie toestand.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on September 07, 2021, 08:05:19 am
Ek weet darem nie. Almal gaan nou hulle 250s probeer swaai.
Hulle behoort so rondom 45k te wees in n goeie toestand.

Ek gaan niks rush nie.  Die regte fiets sal kom , as sy kom.  Ek is oopkop oor die hele proses
Die ene van [aarl is mooi maar met ekstra koerier raakd it nog duurder.  Ek kan daai geld op ander ekstras gebruik
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: skydiver on September 07, 2021, 09:38:20 am
Die ene van [aarl is mooi maar met ekstra koerier raakd it nog duurder.  Ek kan daai geld op ander ekstras gebruik
Toe ek 'n CRF250L wou koop, het ek my budget ge-capp op R45k
Jy is reg....kourier koste van CT to GP gaan omtrent R2.5k wees
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on September 07, 2021, 09:50:57 am
Die ene van [aarl is mooi maar met ekstra koerier raakd it nog duurder.  Ek kan daai geld op ander ekstras gebruik
Toe ek 'n CRF250L wou koop, het ek my budget ge-capp op R45k
Jy is reg....kourier koste van CT to GP gaan omtrent R2.5k wees

Ek dink ek cap my koop op R50k.  So as ek iets vir r45k kry kan ek paar Rand gebruik om by te sit wat dalk kort
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: skydiver on September 07, 2021, 11:23:08 am
Die ene van [aarl is mooi maar met ekstra koerier raakd it nog duurder.  Ek kan daai geld op ander ekstras gebruik
Toe ek 'n CRF250L wou koop, het ek my budget ge-capp op R45k
Jy is reg....kourier koste van CT to GP gaan omtrent R2.5k wees

Ek dink ek cap my koop op R50k.  So as ek iets vir r45k kry kan ek paar Rand gebruik om by te sit wat dalk kort
:thumleft:
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: AAK on September 09, 2021, 04:56:10 pm
Tenere 660 is te swaar. Ding weeg net soveel as n 990.

Wat van die Kle 300 versys?Dis seker bietjie bo jou budget,maar dit lyk na lekker ligte allrounder.

Anders sal ek rondkyk vir n XT660r.Maar jy gaan lank soek👍
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Grunder on September 10, 2021, 10:58:59 am
Die ene van [aarl is mooi maar met ekstra koerier raakd it nog duurder.  Ek kan daai geld op ander ekstras gebruik
Toe ek 'n CRF250L wou koop, het ek my budget ge-capp op R45k
Jy is reg....kourier koste van CT to GP gaan omtrent R2.5k wees

kan nog steeds nie glo jy het hom so goedkoop gekry nie
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: MegaPix on September 10, 2021, 11:11:56 am
Die ene van [aarl is mooi maar met ekstra koerier raakd it nog duurder.  Ek kan daai geld op ander ekstras gebruik
Toe ek 'n CRF250L wou koop, het ek my budget ge-capp op R45k
Jy is reg....kourier koste van CT to GP gaan omtrent R2.5k wees

kan nog steeds nie glo jy het hom so goedkoop gekry nie

Daar is 'n 2012 CRF250L op facebook vir R28k.  Maar die ou se een shock seel lek.
46917km op

Is die prys reg?
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Bliknrs on September 10, 2021, 11:11:08 pm
Om die vurk seels te laat doen is nie duur nie.
Is jy seker dis die L?
Die Rs verkoop in daardie prysklas.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 10, 2021, 11:46:12 pm
Tenere 660 is te swaar. Ding weeg net soveel as n 990.

Wat van die Kle 300 versys?Dis seker bietjie bo jou budget,maar dit lyk na lekker ligte allrounder.

Anders sal ek rondkyk vir n XT660r.Maar jy gaan lank soek👍


XT660Z Tenere dry weight 183.

KTM 990 dry weight 209.

Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Dirt Junkie on September 11, 2021, 07:56:08 am
Tenere 660 is te swaar. Ding weeg net soveel as n 990.

Wat van die Kle 300 versys?Dis seker bietjie bo jou budget,maar dit lyk na lekker ligte allrounder.

Anders sal ek rondkyk vir n XT660r.Maar jy gaan lank soek👍


XT660Z Tenere dry weight 183.     

KTM 990 dry weight 209.

KTM has more than double the power also.

Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Dirt Junkie on September 11, 2021, 07:59:14 am
DRZ400 might tick your boxes
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 11, 2021, 08:14:31 am
Tenere 660 is te swaar. Ding weeg net soveel as n 990.

Wat van die Kle 300 versys?Dis seker bietjie bo jou budget,maar dit lyk na lekker ligte allrounder.

Anders sal ek rondkyk vir n XT660r.Maar jy gaan lank soek👍


XT660Z Tenere dry weight 183.     

KTM 990 dry weight 209.

KTM has more than double the power also.



Which, coupled with the extra weight, becomes a handful in some places.

Double the power unfortunately does not take extra weight away.

990's also fuel-inefficient.
Title: Re: CONFUSED MUCH - R55k budget - ITCHY ASS
Post by: Dirt Junkie on September 11, 2021, 09:52:43 am
Tenere 660 is te swaar. Ding weeg net soveel as n 990.

Wat van die Kle 300 versys?Dis seker bietjie bo jou budget,maar dit lyk na lekker ligte allrounder.

Anders sal ek rondkyk vir n XT660r.Maar jy gaan lank soek👍


XT660Z Tenere dry weight 183.     

KTM 990 dry weight 209.

KTM has more than double the power also.



Which, coupled with the extra weight, becomes a handful in some places.

Double the power unfortunately does not take extra weight away.

990's also fuel-inefficient.
that's a fact yes and another fact is the Xt660z is over weight and under powered for some