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Title: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Jamaj on September 06, 2021, 11:58:46 am
Good day gents

Does anyone have any experience with this type of product for a mororbike and can recommend a brand/supplier with contacts?

Mines a XR650L so the lateral mounted option is not suitable.  Not considering a trailer yet owing to limited budget.

Kind regards

Cheers

Jamaj
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 06, 2021, 12:57:58 pm
They tow 1250GS's lateral, and they weight around 280-300kg.

650L will be easy peasy
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Jamaj on September 06, 2021, 03:14:35 pm
They tow 1250GS's lateral, and they weight around 280-300kg.

650L will be easy peasy
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many thanks for that, but sadly out of my price range.  I have other options I may have to persue.  Thanks again and to Flying Brick for the telephonic advice
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Bill the Bong on September 06, 2021, 03:17:48 pm
this?
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: peteb on September 06, 2021, 06:04:57 pm
The real problem (not mentioned in the advertising blurb obviously) is that you have to take your chain off every time you tow, otherwise (from what I have heard 'back in the day' when guys tried similar home made solutions) is that the chain and sprockets get trashed in no time. Also if you have knobbies on your bike don't expect them to last too long.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Beserker on September 07, 2021, 07:09:04 am
The real problem (not mentioned in the advertising blurb obviously) is that you have to take your chain off every time you tow, otherwise (from what I have heard 'back in the day' when guys tried similar home made solutions) is that the chain and sprockets get trashed in no time. Also if you have knobbies on your bike don't expect them to last too long.

Especially with the chain on, it causes drag.  It is a pain in the butt concept.

ping @BurpSa, he made his own lateral rack

Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 07, 2021, 08:09:31 am
I was thinking of making a sled for the rear wheel, small frame with 2 wheels on each side that you strap the rear wheel on, and than place the front as you wanted.

No need for chain removal or wear on tyres or extra lights as you can see the bakkies
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: ktmmer on September 07, 2021, 08:45:49 am
The best idea I have seen is where you tow it backwards on the front wheel . It then  has a pivot at the hitch. 
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 07, 2021, 09:09:06 am
That will be easiest yes.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Cracker on September 07, 2021, 09:32:26 am
Won't the front wheel tend to steer itself if you tow it backwards? Or does the bike need to lean to turn the steering?
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 07, 2021, 10:06:28 am
He mentioned a pivot at the hitch. That's the crucial part.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: BuRP on September 07, 2021, 11:26:51 am
ping @BurpSa, he made his own lateral rack

..... which works like an absolute charm if I may say so myself!
Not suited for small cars or 1400 bakkies though, at least not if the bike's bigger than a plastic.

Ride on & off alone with use of the ramp, strap the wheels with all-metal clamps, then use some straps to secure further until 'mooi vas'.
Xramp's idea taken and improved on, any offroad driving zero problem.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Bill the Bong on September 07, 2021, 08:20:52 pm
I was thinking of making a sled for the rear wheel, small frame with 2 wheels on each side that you strap the rear wheel on, and than place the front as you wanted.

No need for chain removal or wear on tyres or extra lights as you can see the bakkies

That is called a trailer
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Cracker on September 07, 2021, 09:11:44 pm
He mentioned a pivot at the hitch. That's the crucial part.

googled it - you need to tie the bars - that was the bit was bothering me -  a simple solution, though.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 07, 2021, 09:21:38 pm
I towed lots of bikes behind cars, with the front wheel in a channel, or wheel removed and forks bolted onto a welded-onto-the-towbar axle.

No serious drag from the chain, and minimal wear on the tyre too.

Problem is if your bike gets jolted into gear by chance, while doing 120......hence suggestions that you remove the chain.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Bill the Bong on September 07, 2021, 09:33:27 pm
I towed lots of bikes behind cars, with the front wheel in a channel, or wheel removed and forks bolted onto a welded-onto-the-towbar axle.

No serious drag from the chain, and minimal wear on the tyre too.

Problem is if your bike gets jolted into gear by chance, while doing 120......hence suggestions that you remove the chain.

I guess for a short trip I would just zip tie the clutch lever to the bars. At least that would help a bit if it dropped into gear
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 07, 2021, 09:53:33 pm
I towed lots of bikes behind cars, with the front wheel in a channel, or wheel removed and forks bolted onto a welded-onto-the-towbar axle.

No serious drag from the chain, and minimal wear on the tyre too.

Problem is if your bike gets jolted into gear by chance, while doing 120......hence suggestions that you remove the chain.

I guess for a short trip I would just zip tie the clutch lever to the bars. At least that would help a bit if it dropped into gear


Good idea! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 08, 2021, 08:00:38 am
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Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Beebop on September 08, 2021, 08:22:27 am
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Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 08, 2021, 08:32:18 am
Oh fok :imaposer:
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Skeltonsc on September 09, 2021, 03:00:03 pm
I towed lots of bikes behind cars, with the front wheel in a channel, or wheel removed and forks bolted onto a welded-onto-the-towbar axle.

No serious drag from the chain, and minimal wear on the tyre too.

Problem is if your bike gets jolted into gear by chance, while doing 120......hence suggestions that you remove the chain.

I have one of these, was given it, but never had reason to use it yet. prefer riding my bike to the destination. But good to know I have the option
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: chicco on September 09, 2021, 03:40:42 pm
I build one like these myself with 100mm x 25mm x 6mm channel. bolt onto towbar after removing bal. worked fine, just had to remove the chain. The side arms was used to fit the tie down straps.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 09, 2021, 03:56:04 pm
I'll just cable tie the clutch level, and oil the chain well.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: chicco on September 09, 2021, 04:06:58 pm
I'll just cable tie the clutch level, and oil the chain well.

With the bike in neutral and clutch cable tied it can work Im sure on certain bikes. Problem is where you have a pressurised lub system on the drive shaft. I towed my Dirt bikes, KLR, 950 & 990's plenty times over 400km + distances.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 09, 2021, 04:26:15 pm
I build one like these myself with 100mm x 25mm x 6mm channel. bolt onto towbar after removing bal. worked fine, just had to remove the chain. The side arms was used to fit the tie down straps.
I made the same thing for my VW bakkie and towed my DR500 to NAM  in 1988. Took the chain off the back sprocket and tied it to the left shock. Did not even know the bike was there it towed so nice.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: LouisXander on September 09, 2021, 04:26:23 pm
"Problem is where you have a pressurised lub system on the drive shaft"

Is that like GS'se and S10's with drive shafts?
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: chicco on September 09, 2021, 05:46:56 pm
sorry should have explained better. output shaft from engine on which front sprocket is mounted. Not sure on a BMW or S10 what to do.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: Skeltonsc on September 09, 2021, 06:04:13 pm
sorry should have explained better. output shaft from engine on which front sprocket is mounted. Not sure if it is a BMW or S10.

even my Vstom had oil pressure at this output shaft, so this is a very valid point.
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: chicco on September 09, 2021, 06:07:54 pm
just safer to remove the chain  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Product Advice - Towbar Mounted "Tow-Ster" type bike frontwheel towing solutions
Post by: 73 Peanut on September 09, 2021, 08:02:38 pm
Have a look at the   MOTOW  unit that the guy mounts the bike in reverse . Awesome design with a hinge to allow the bike to turn without tilting.  I will be making myself one very soon to tow the xr behind my little panelvan .