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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: Dux on November 23, 2021, 08:02:30 pm

Title: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 23, 2021, 08:02:30 pm
Bimota KB4
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 23, 2021, 08:04:23 pm
MV Agusta adventure model
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Noneking on November 23, 2021, 08:41:45 pm
Some really good looking bikes

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Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: sidetrack on November 24, 2021, 12:08:29 pm
MV Agusta adventure model
Gives me AT vibes when I look at it
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Wooly Bugger on November 24, 2021, 12:16:21 pm
 :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: MildlyWild on November 24, 2021, 12:17:51 pm
Now if someone can just bring out a new, slightly refined +-160kg thumper with good suspension and decent fuel range, without all the fancy electronics, at a reasonable price...
Seems pretty easy to do
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: mox on November 24, 2021, 12:20:11 pm
That Bimota KB4  :drif:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 24, 2021, 12:32:07 pm
I have a bit of a crush on the Ducati Streetfighter V2 like I haven't crushed on a Duc since maybe the 748.

One publication also mentioned GASGAS to possibly debut road bikes plus a possible 890 adventure based model at EICMA this weekend but I'm skeptical
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Buff on November 24, 2021, 12:38:21 pm
Bimota KB4

Yoh, this bike makes me moist and I don't even like road bikes  :drif:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: BliknÍrs on November 24, 2021, 12:45:04 pm
2022 Honda 125 Trail.
New colour.
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/1m7Z9/s1/2022-honda-ct125-pearl-organic-green-right-side.webp)

And new for 2022. A 150cc
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Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Bappas on November 24, 2021, 01:02:14 pm
Now if someone can just bring out a new, slightly refined +-160kg thumper with good suspension and decent fuel range, without all the fancy electronics, at a reasonable price...
Seems pretty easy to do

That will not happen it is sensible! And our unsensable friend wants al the electronics they want the bike to be more like their cell phone !
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: MildlyWild on November 24, 2021, 01:35:39 pm
Now if someone can just bring out a new, slightly refined +-160kg thumper with good suspension and decent fuel range, without all the fancy electronics, at a reasonable price...
Seems pretty easy to do

That will not happen it is sensible! And our unsensable friend wants al the electronics they want the bike to be more like their cell phone !

New for 2032!
Tesla electric self drive (auto pilot) adventure bike, allowing the rider to take a nap while traversing rugged terrain
300kg
0-200km/h in 5 seconds
Suspension that isolates you from offroad surfaces so well, you'll feel like you're on rails
8 point personal safety system
In the highly unlikely event of a crash the built in airbag will prevent any injury or damage to the rider or bike
Cost: $50,000, or 1 testicle, 1 kidney and a lung
Pay your deposit now and be the alpha male in every group

Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: MildlyWild on November 24, 2021, 01:37:27 pm
Ok, highjack off
With a lekker pair of knobblies and some soft luggage on the back for a camping trip the Tuareg will look awesome :drif:
And 59kW, 187kg, 240mm travel front and rear on a 660 sounds good





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Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Grunder on November 24, 2021, 01:40:50 pm
2022 Honda 125 Trail.
New colour.
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/1m7Z9/s1/2022-honda-ct125-pearl-organic-green-right-side.webp)

And new for 2022. A 150cc
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GoxHit8Chbk/YMwyKlTzDDI/AAAAAAAACDU/udj1kxC9AEYC9Z4rrdvjBW3zJ7puTsQtACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1623994916796284-0.png)

Ek sal hom koop!
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: jaybiker on November 24, 2021, 02:56:42 pm
Ok, highjack off
With a lekker pair of knobblies and some soft luggage on the back for a camping trip the Tuareg will look awesome :drif:
And 59kW, 187kg, 240mm travel front and rear on a 660 sounds good


I'm not buying but if I was, 187kg for a single thumper would mean that I wasn't. Doesn't sound at all good to me.  :-\





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Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: MildlyWild on November 24, 2021, 03:57:48 pm
Ok, highjack off
With a lekker pair of knobblies and some soft luggage on the back for a camping trip the Tuareg will look awesome :drif:
And 59kW, 187kg, 240mm travel front and rear on a 660 sounds good


I'm not buying but if I was, 187kg for a single thumper would mean that I wasn't. Doesn't sound at all good to me.  :-\

By today's porky standards 187kgs is not bad, considering this is not a scrambler. Even the 660 Tenere weighs 183kgs, only makes 34kW, with 210mm travel
But yes, far from the desired 160kg range
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 24, 2021, 04:02:11 pm
That's a twin so the weight is actually pretty decent. Some people yearn for a refined single while others are having the time of their lives on 690 and 701. Makes almost the same power as that Tuareg too
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: XRRX on November 24, 2021, 06:38:20 pm
Pretty disappointing releases or lack thereoff from the bigger manufacturers!!!
That Aprilia seems legit though - dare I say it promises to be what the T7 should have been!!!
And damn I wouldn't mind that 125 Trial - listen Honda SA!!!
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 25, 2021, 01:28:43 pm
Spotted a brand called Fantic on one of the vids that I don't think I've heard of before. No idea if it's new for 2022 or if it's been around a while but the Caballero Rally looks quite cool. 449cc single, 160 dry weight
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 25, 2021, 01:33:35 pm
Frantic have been around for years , trials bikes and small bikes
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: IceCreamMan on November 25, 2021, 01:35:21 pm
That MV sure is sexyÖ.my donner
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: BuRP on November 25, 2021, 01:44:32 pm
Frantic have been around for years , trials bikes and small bikes

Frixed that for you  ;)
Fantic!
Old brand, used to make 50cc's mainly.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 25, 2021, 01:48:32 pm
Frantic have been around for years , trials bikes and small bikes

Frixed that for you  ;)
Fantic!
Old brand, used to make 50cc's mainly.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 25, 2021, 01:51:15 pm
Ok not new (the Caballero, not the brand itself). Zongshen built engines. Just read a review by MCN's Neevesy and he rates it quite highly (and I rate his opinion quite highly)
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Edgar on November 25, 2021, 02:06:33 pm
2022 Honda 125 Trail.
New colour.
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/1m7Z9/s1/2022-honda-ct125-pearl-organic-green-right-side.webp)

And new for 2022. A 150cc
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GoxHit8Chbk/YMwyKlTzDDI/AAAAAAAACDU/udj1kxC9AEYC9Z4rrdvjBW3zJ7puTsQtACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1623994916796284-0.png)

Jis, I would not mind having this as a second bike. :drif:

Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Tom van Brits on November 25, 2021, 02:07:06 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2021, 02:07:14 pm
I really don't understand the appeal of the Honda Trail ? I mean why would a XR125 for example not be a better all round bike ? Cheaper, bigger wheels for all types of terrain, bigger fuel tank, more comfortable seat, more comfy suspension  etc etc. Nee wat hou dit maar vir die Posman.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Edgar on November 25, 2021, 02:08:39 pm
I really don't understand the appeal of the Honda Trail ? I mean why would a XR125 for example not be a better all round bike ? Cheaper, bigger wheels for all types of terrain, bigger fuel tank, more comfortable seat, more comfy suspension  etc etc.

Unless you are a craft beer drinking hipster you would not understand the appeal :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2021, 02:10:53 pm
I really don't understand the appeal of the Honda Trail ? I mean why would a XR125 for example not be a better all round bike ? Cheaper, bigger wheels for all types of terrain, bigger fuel tank, more comfortable seat, more comfy suspension  etc etc.

Unless you are a craft beer drinking hipster you would not understand the appeal :thumleft:
Ah ok that explains it then, I prefer Lion
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: sidetrack on November 25, 2021, 02:12:17 pm
In many cases the Japanse are ridng on 1980's coat tails when it comes to DS bikes, time to catch a wake up. Worst offenders being Suzuki and Kawasaki.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Edgar on November 25, 2021, 02:13:32 pm
I really don't understand the appeal of the Honda Trail ? I mean why would a XR125 for example not be a better all round bike ? Cheaper, bigger wheels for all types of terrain, bigger fuel tank, more comfortable seat, more comfy suspension  etc etc.

Unless you are a craft beer drinking hipster you would not understand the appeal :thumleft:
Ah ok that explains it then, I prefer Lion

I recon it has to do with the nostalgia factor. I own a 1969 Honda Z50 Mini Trail. In the US, you can buy a brand new, street legal model Z50. Not a practical bike at all, but I would still love to have one.


Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Edgar on November 25, 2021, 02:46:12 pm
How cool is this. 2021 Honda Mini Trail
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 25, 2021, 02:52:58 pm
Pretty disappointing releases or lack thereoff from the bigger manufacturers!!!
That Aprilia seems legit though - dare I say it promises to be what the T7 should have been!!!
And damn I wouldn't mind that 125 Trial - listen Honda SA!!!

2 years of Covid and i'm surprised that there are ANY new models being released.  I think under the circumstances the new models that are coming out are brilliant, taking a bunch of cash for R&D to release it into pretty uncertain markets is a massive risk. Also I think many of the new models are being kept under wraps for now. I'm still expecting Honda to come out with the new Transalp and some others.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Clockwork Orange on November 25, 2021, 03:13:40 pm
Pretty disappointing releases or lack thereoff from the bigger manufacturers!!!
That Aprilia seems legit though - dare I say it promises to be what the T7 should have been!!!
And damn I wouldn't mind that 125 Trial - listen Honda SA!!!

2 years of Covid and i'm surprised that there are ANY new models being released.  I think under the circumstances the new models that are coming out are brilliant, taking a bunch of cash for R&D to release it into pretty uncertain markets is a massive risk. Also I think many of the new models are being kept under wraps for now. I'm still expecting Honda to come out with the new Transalp and some others.



Very good point you make there :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 25, 2021, 03:40:33 pm
How cool is this. 2021 Honda Mini Trail

These are awesome little bikes , only one problem though , everyone wants to ride it  :lol8:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 25, 2021, 03:51:42 pm
How cool is this. 2021 Honda Mini Trail
Hulle is al paar jaar uit. Een gesoek om langs my Ď71 model te parkeer maar Honda dealer het daai tyd nie eers van hom geweet nie. Hoop ons kry hom hier maar ek twyfel
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 25, 2021, 04:30:15 pm
How cool is this. 2021 Honda Mini Trail
Hulle is al paar jaar uit. Een gesoek om langs my Ď71 model te parkeer maar Honda dealer het daai tyd nie eers van hom geweet nie. Hoop ons kry hom hier maar ek twyfel

Some were imported  , but not by Honda , I rode a clients one and it is loads of fun  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fenderbender on November 25, 2021, 05:58:26 pm
Daai Agusta   lyk goed  , hy lyk baie goed , weet net nie van backup nie .
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: MildlyWild on November 25, 2021, 07:12:34 pm
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Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: BLK on November 25, 2021, 07:59:22 pm
The Tuareg is a T7 beater provided Aprilia can fix up their poor dealer base etc.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fudmucker on November 25, 2021, 08:03:47 pm
This is clearly the latest reiteration of the Honda Postie bike that is so popular in Australia.
I am sure it could be here too!

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Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: voorvel on November 25, 2021, 08:37:11 pm
Spotted a brand called Fantic on one of the vids that I don't think I've heard of before. No idea if it's new for 2022 or if it's been around a while but the Caballero Rally looks quite cool. 449cc single, 160 dry weight

They have a couple nice tweaked versions of Yamaha bikes.
Checkout this 450 rally, due to compete in Dakar'22
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Tom van Brits on November 25, 2021, 10:50:50 pm
The Tuareg is a T7 beater provided Aprilia can fix up their poor dealer base etc.

What is the changeÖ.
Sadly Aprillia, Cagiva, Bimota, MV and some are not well presented and dealership and backup in SA always sucked.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 26, 2021, 07:45:54 am
Some really good looking bikes

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I see there is a 9.5 and a 5.5 in that concept. 5.5 being a 550cc parallel twin which is an engine size/configuration lots of people have been hoping for
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dwerg on November 26, 2021, 10:00:15 am
Cool little Aprilia 'adventure' scoot

https://www.zigwheels.com/news-features/general-news/aprilia-sr-gt-adventure-scooter-unveiled-at-2021-eicma/43950/

(https://media.zigcdn.com/media/content/2021/Nov/208676417-apriliasrgt1_720x540.jpg)
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 26, 2021, 10:52:46 am
Spotted a brand called Fantic on one of the vids that I don't think I've heard of before. No idea if it's new for 2022 or if it's been around a while but the Caballero Rally looks quite cool. 449cc single, 160 dry weight

They have a couple nice tweaked versions of Yamaha bikes.
Checkout this 450 rally, due to compete in Dakar'22

That tank looks smaller than my std 450X , its not going to rally for long.. looks nice and slim though, I like it
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 26, 2021, 12:23:14 pm
Spotted a brand called Fantic on one of the vids that I don't think I've heard of before. No idea if it's new for 2022 or if it's been around a while but the Caballero Rally looks quite cool. 449cc single, 160 dry weight

They have a couple nice tweaked versions of Yamaha bikes.
Checkout this 450 rally, due to compete in Dakar'22

That tank looks smaller than my std 450X , its not going to rally for long.. looks nice and slim though, I like it

I don't know about that , side panel tanks like the KTM 950/990 and the subframe is a fuel tank just like the 690
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 26, 2021, 01:45:20 pm
Spotted a brand called Fantic on one of the vids that I don't think I've heard of before. No idea if it's new for 2022 or if it's been around a while but the Caballero Rally looks quite cool. 449cc single, 160 dry weight

They have a couple nice tweaked versions of Yamaha bikes.
Checkout this 450 rally, due to compete in Dakar'22


That tank looks smaller than my std 450X , its not going to rally for long.. looks nice and slim though, I like it

I don't know about that , side panel tanks like the KTM 950/990 and the subframe is a fuel tank just like the 690

I was trying to squint to see but its not a very clear pic.. I know some rally bikes are stuffing fuel tanks under seats and into the subframe but generally the top section of the tank is there for 10l or so.. dunno, would be nice to see the bike with the shroud off.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dux on November 26, 2021, 03:08:00 pm
Spotted a brand called Fantic on one of the vids that I don't think I've heard of before. No idea if it's new for 2022 or if it's been around a while but the Caballero Rally looks quite cool. 449cc single, 160 dry weight

They have a couple nice tweaked versions of Yamaha bikes.
Checkout this 450 rally, due to compete in Dakar'22


That tank looks smaller than my std 450X , its not going to rally for long.. looks nice and slim though, I like it

I don't know about that , side panel tanks like the KTM 950/990 and the subframe is a fuel tank just like the 690

I was trying to squint to see but its not a very clear pic.. I know some rally bikes are stuffing fuel tanks under seats and into the subframe but generally the top section of the tank is there for 10l or so.. dunno, would be nice to see the bike with the shroud off.

Time to visit the optician bud   ;)
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: iamgigglz on November 26, 2021, 03:22:58 pm
This is clearly the latest reiteration of the Honda Postie bike that is so popular in Australia.
I am sure it could be here too!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GoxHit8Chbk/YMwyKlTzDDI/AAAAAAAACDU/udj1kxC9AEYC9Z4rrdvjBW3zJ7puTsQtACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1623994916796284-0.png)

Slap a 650 in this frame and a jerrry-can on the back and half of WD will stop complaining about "the perfect bike"
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Dorsland on November 26, 2021, 03:45:09 pm
Whatever the weight, it should just have been a bit lighter though.  :lol8:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 26, 2021, 04:24:21 pm
Whatever the weight, it should just have been a bit lighter though.  :lol8:

 :imaposer: usually said by someone 20kg overweight  :laughing4:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Tonteldoos on November 26, 2021, 04:53:58 pm
This is clearly the latest reiteration of the Honda Postie bike that is so popular in Australia.
I am sure it could be here too!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GoxHit8Chbk/YMwyKlTzDDI/AAAAAAAACDU/udj1kxC9AEYC9Z4rrdvjBW3zJ7puTsQtACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1623994916796284-0.png)

Slap a 650 in this frame and a jerrry-can on the back and half of WD will stop complaining about "the perfect bike"
This got lots of appeal..but will be expensive.. a bigger motor in it will have you heaps of fun

"But thereís a catch: the CT125 costs eye-watering $6999 (plus on-road costs) or more than twice the price of Hondaís CB125E ($2600) commuter bike, which comes with a (conventional) five-speed gearbox. The CT125 joins the Monkey and the Super Cub as Hondaís third classic model to get a modern-day revamp."
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Tonteldoos on November 27, 2021, 07:36:16 am
Look at this one
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Fudmucker on November 28, 2021, 07:05:17 am
Great looking bike. :thumleft:
It shoud have a 250-300 motor.  :sip:

Why do they use colours that make it look like it was made from random recycled plastic?   ::)
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Welsh on November 28, 2021, 07:42:44 am
Frantic have been around for years , trials bikes and small bikes

Frixed that for you  ;)
Fantic!
Old brand, used to make 50cc's mainly.

For main stream yes, 50cc Minarelli engines generally, but they also made serious Enduro bikes, when the 50cc 80cc and 125cc classes were big in the 1970's the Welsh National Enduro still often gets won outright by the 125cc bikes.  8) `

A 1975 Fantic


Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: LouisXander on November 28, 2021, 08:07:39 am
Why don't they reinvent the better ones?

Posties are outdated, even in modern form??

Like the XR600R and XR650R? They will still be relavant even today, but then I'm biased :peepwall:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Vintage_Mania on November 28, 2021, 08:31:51 am
They have not reinvented the CT, in some parts of the world they have never stopped production of the CT110. And who can resist taking the monies of the man-bun, coffee-drinking yuppies? It's so easy to do, just ask almost any other manufacturer out there, they are all taking advantage of the retro fad. So increase the cc to 125, slap on off-the-shelf FI, add some LED lights, and stick a staggering price tag on it.

There is nothing to change really, why would you put a bigger motor in it? To what end?
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: MildlyWild on November 28, 2021, 09:02:42 am
They have not reinvented the CT, in some parts of the world they have never stopped production of the CT110. And who can resist taking the monies of the man-bun, coffee-drinking yuppies? It's so easy to do, just ask almost any other manufacturer out there, they are all taking advantage of the retro fad. So increase the cc to 125, slap on off-the-shelf FI, add some LED lights, and stick a staggering price tag on it.

There is nothing to change really, why would you put a bigger motor in it? To what end?

Oh come on!! They upped the power by 1kW - its a totally new bike now :imaposer:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Vintage_Mania on November 28, 2021, 09:51:17 am
Still don't get? I am referring to the remarks of...

Great looking bike. :thumleft:
It shoud have a 250-300 motor.  :sip:

Why do they use colours that make it look like it was made from random recycled plastic?   ::)

And...

Slap a 650 in this frame and a jerrry-can on the back and half of WD will stop complaining about "the perfect bike"

I definitely understand that it is what it is.
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: subie on November 28, 2021, 10:48:42 am
Talking shit about a postie ,new or old, is just sacrilegious to me  :xxbah:
Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Amsterdam on November 28, 2021, 11:46:37 am
The Tuareg is a T7 beater provided Aprilia can fix up their poor dealer base etc.

It won't be if Yamaha brings this one to market without the roadbook paraphernalia -

Title: Re: New 2022 models
Post by: Tom van Brits on November 28, 2021, 04:12:50 pm
Why don't they reinvent the better ones?

Posties are outdated, even in modern form??

Like the XR600R and XR650R? They will still be relavant even today, but then I'm biased :peepwall:

Posties may be outdated but today a bike I will buy without thinking twice if it comes back to SA.
Some get it and others donít
Different strokes