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Title: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 05:29:06 pm
I am so pissed at myself at the moment.....  >:(

I went down to Oudtshoorn this weekend with fully loaded bike.

On the way down everything was fine.

On Saturday i started hearing a tik tik tik noise coming from the engine.... i thought ahh maybe its cold oil a bit of valve noise maybe.

On my way back to PE today the tik tik noise started getting louder and i thought oh fuck!! what can make the noise...  :o :o

50km outside PE i started losing power and was only able to go at about 120km/h full taps...  :o

It suddenly became clear that the tik tik noise was spark jumping at a plug connection....

I haven't opened anything yet, will look tomorrow night...  :-[

Anybody got some advice on what to look for this can't be the first time this happened?

Is that black thing over the plug the coil?

Who has a 1200GS service manual on CD that i can have or where can i download...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: GreenMamba1974 on March 01, 2009, 05:33:32 pm
i hope it's nothing serious!   :o
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Pistonpete on March 01, 2009, 05:38:22 pm
Should have bought a KTM Cappie ! ;D Sorry...could not help myself! :laughing4: Hope its something simple & inexpensive. :)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 05:38:33 pm
i hope it's nothing serious!   :o

I think the worst it can be is a new coil and plug.... but being BMW it will probably cost a gizzillion dollars... :o :o
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 05:41:25 pm
Should have bought a KTM Cappie ! ;D Sorry...could not help myself! :laughing4: Hope its something simple & inexpensive. :)

Jaja Pete :thumleft:

Please guys don't use this thread to bash....
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Adventurer on March 01, 2009, 05:44:23 pm
You have a twin spark motor, but if the main/centre plug dies, the bike goes kak. Remove all the plugs and compare their colour, a dead plug will be all black, a good one should be light brown if you're running unleaded.
You could also have a dead spark plug coil, that big part attached to the centre plug, but, you could also just have a loose connection...check the flat oval plugs that connect to the coil.
Your spark plug under the head comes from a separate coil, but the cente plugs have a built in coil in the cap.
Process of elimination.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Pistonpete on March 01, 2009, 05:46:03 pm
Ag Cappie...was just joking. You seen i never brand bash ! 8)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 05:53:48 pm
You have a twin spark motor, but if the main/centre plug dies, the bike goes kak. Remove all the plugs and compare their colour, a dead plug will be all black, a good one should be light brown if you're running unleaded.
You could also have a dead spark plug coil, that big part attached to the centre plug, but, you could also just have a loose connection...check the flat oval plugs that connect to the coil.
Your spark plug under the head comes from a separate coil, but the cente plugs have a built in coil in the cap.
Process of elimination.

Thanks Adventurer.... now all i need is a service manual to get to the plugs....

My two bottom plugs also has coils attached to them.... the leads going to them look the same as the leads going to the main/center plug.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 05:54:02 pm
Ag Cappie...was just joking. You seen i never brand bash ! 8)

All fine...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Wolweseun on March 01, 2009, 06:00:08 pm
I have service manuals for you will scratch them out
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 06:01:15 pm
I have service manuals for you will scratch them out

Thanks...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: gerhad on March 01, 2009, 06:24:33 pm
My 1100 did the same at one stage, although it's not a twin spark and much different from the 1200 I'll still share.  Mine made the same tik tik tik sound and it's in rithm  with the cylinders.  The plugs were the problem cause the bike was running a little lean.  It happens when you do long distances at constant speed and the plug is running to hot.  When I removed the plug the white porcelain part were loose fron the iron part of the plug and the porcelain part could move up and down about 1.5-2mm.  The tik tik sound was the porcelain part thrown in and out in the iron part by the pressure and suction of the cylinder.  The tip of the plug was also gone......

Remove the plug and check if it's o.k. and what the colour of the plug is.  Hope you get sorted!!
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 06:36:17 pm
Thanks Gerhard i will have a look... :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Bakkie on March 01, 2009, 08:36:05 pm
that's a expensive thumper you got there skipper  ;)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 01, 2009, 08:37:21 pm
that's a expensive thumper you got there skipper  ;)

Ten miste het ek electric start... ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 08:28:09 am
Can someone advice me on how to get the spark coil off the plug?

Do i have to pull with a special tool?

Do i have wedge it with a screwdriver?

I don't want to break it...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: michnus on March 02, 2009, 08:39:54 am
just wedge it with a big flat screw driver, be careful.

Wait until go have another 1200 there, and swap the plugs first and then the coils, I did it when one of the coils on my bike went and it's a quick and easy method of determining the culprit, just looking a plug won't tell you much.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Wolweseun on March 02, 2009, 08:44:45 am
Come get the Manual on DVD from me
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 08:46:12 am
Michnus i heard alot of arching.... it should leave a mark. ::)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 08:46:35 am
Come get the Manual on DVD from me

Thanks.... i'll fetch tonight.... ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Eisbein on March 02, 2009, 08:54:13 am
Cappie - check this out:



1200 manual
 (http://www.carlsalter.com/download.asp?fileid=098109119045067068095095095082101112114111109032114049050048048071115046105115111046105115111)


It somehow only likes Internet Explorer and the 'anti bot' text is difficult to read sometimes. Just refresh if that's the case.

It's over 100MB and an ISO file, which means you must either extract it with something like 7zip or winrar, or burn it to a CD with something like Nero.




Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: michnus on March 02, 2009, 08:54:24 am
Michnus i heard alot of arching.... it should leave a mark. ::)

Maybe then the coil just got dislodged 9lack of better words) from the spark plug?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 09:04:30 am
Michnus i heard alot of arching.... it should leave a mark. ::)

Maybe then the coil just got dislodged 9lack of better words) from the spark plug?

That is what i am hoping for..... i can clearly hear the High tension spark when riding.... can't hear it when idling... :(
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: GEE-SH on March 02, 2009, 10:41:02 am
Druk jou hand teen die swart gedeelte waar jy dink die klik klik vandaan kom  >:D jy sal gou weet of dit die probleem is  ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 10:50:44 am
Druk jou hand teen die swart gedeelte waar jy dink die klik klik vandaan kom  >:D jy sal gou weet of dit die probleem is  ;D

Kan ek nie jou hand leen nie :P
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 02, 2009, 11:24:19 am
Michnus i heard alot of arching.... it should leave a mark. ::)

Maybe then the coil just got dislodged 9lack of better words) from the spark plug?

That is what i am hoping for..... i can clearly hear the High tension spark when riding.... can't hear it when idling... :(

You sure it was not ping-ing?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 11:28:01 am
Michnus i heard alot of arching.... it should leave a mark. ::)

Maybe then the coil just got dislodged 9lack of better words) from the spark plug?

That is what i am hoping for..... i can clearly hear the High tension spark when riding.... can't hear it when idling... :(

You sure it was not ping-ing?

I hope not because then something is really f**ked...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 02, 2009, 11:32:54 am
It will lose power due to a hole in the piston. Was the noise more prevalent on one side?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Eisbein on March 02, 2009, 11:34:13 am
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Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 11:39:40 am
It will lose power due to a hole in the piston. Was the noise more prevalent on one side?

FFS gaan weg man :D




Dankie Eisbein...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 02, 2009, 11:41:18 am
 :wave: cheers
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Mr.T on March 02, 2009, 07:27:47 pm
Alan Lewis has just recieved a box or two of plugs for the 1200
They are the Bosh plugs.

I bought a set of 4 and let me tell you, you will have a smile on your face
after you have paid for them compared to BMW parts center.  8)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 07:46:11 pm
Whoooooooooo hoooooooooooo   :headbang: :headbang:

The GS is back on full power.....  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Like with many electronic things i took it apart, inspected everything and put it back together again....  :thumleft:

Went for a quick 5 minute ride.... she has full power on tap and she idles right...  :thumleft:

Lets see how long it lasts...  :P
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Bakkie on March 02, 2009, 08:19:38 pm
wat was die probleem? of weet jy nie  :P
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 08:22:24 pm
wat was die probleem? of weet jy nie  :P

Loose connection.... nie seker nie
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 02, 2009, 08:22:31 pm
Hy't seker die golden touch  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 08:23:55 pm
Hy't seker die golden touch  :thumleft:

Ek was vir 5 jaar 'n electronic techie... BMW kan my maar aanstel.... ek weet alles can CanBus ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 02, 2009, 08:45:17 pm
Mooi man, ek is darem bly dis net 'n elektroniese probleem.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 02, 2009, 08:49:35 pm
Mooi man, ek is darem bly dis net 'n elektroniese probleem.

Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: kwassi on March 03, 2009, 01:04:33 pm
Mooi man, ek is darem bly dis net 'n elektroniese probleem.

Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.

Hvl kos so software upgrade?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 03, 2009, 01:11:53 pm
lekker Capn

root cause unknown = problem though
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 01:12:51 pm
Mooi man, ek is darem bly dis net 'n elektroniese probleem.

Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.

Hvl kos so software upgrade?

Ek weet nie.... kan hulle nie meer as 10 minute vat nie ::)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 03, 2009, 01:14:04 pm
Daai till het een rooi knop... >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 01:14:12 pm
lekker Capn

root cause unknown = problem though

Jip i am feeling a bit better but not feeling great.. :-\
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: kwassi on March 03, 2009, 01:15:56 pm
Dit vat dalk 10 minute maar hulle book 'n uur
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 01:16:29 pm
Dit vat dalk 10 minute maar hulle book 'n uur

Ons sal sien....
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: kwassi on March 03, 2009, 01:21:20 pm
Dit vat dalk 10 minute maar hulle book 'n uur

Ons sal sien....

Ja hou ons op hoogte asb.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Eisbein on March 03, 2009, 01:22:05 pm
Mooi man, ek is darem bly dis net 'n elektroniese probleem.

Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.

Hvl kos so software upgrade?

Ek weet nie.... kan hulle nie meer as 10 minute vat nie ::)

What's the advantage of having the software upgraded ?

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 01:23:30 pm
Mooi man, ek is darem bly dis net 'n elektroniese probleem.

Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.

Hvl kos so software upgrade?

Ek weet nie.... kan hulle nie meer as 10 minute vat nie ::)

What's the advantage of having the software upgraded ?



Not having your motor blow up between your legs ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 03, 2009, 01:24:26 pm
But the earlier 12s dont need the upgrade, not?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Eisbein on March 03, 2009, 01:30:11 pm
But the earlier 12s dont need the upgrade, not?

That's why I'm asking...

;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 01:30:14 pm
But the earlier 12s dont need the upgrade, not?

Dunno..... don't have time for it now.... it will have to wait.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 03, 2009, 01:37:09 pm
Some past references

Da Tazzman
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=13635.0

Leo
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=17633.0

Davy
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=11114.0
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 01:52:39 pm
Thanks Buzz

It a bit reassuring...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 07:46:52 pm
Went for a quick 70km ride after work.....

She pulls with all her ponies and the noise is gone...

I'm a happy chappy... ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Ama ride ride on March 03, 2009, 07:50:30 pm
Went for a quick 70km ride after work.....

She pulls with all her ponies and the noise is gone...

I'm a happy chappy... ;D

Dis lekker om die ponies los te laat ne......vergelyk die krag met 'n 650 s'n
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 03, 2009, 07:53:46 pm
Went for a quick 70km ride after work.....

She pulls with all her ponies and the noise is gone...

I'm a happy chappy... ;D

Dis lekker om die ponies los te laat ne......vergelyk die krag met 'n 650 s'n


Die remme werk ook lekker.... 210km/h op die hiway toe spring a taxi voor my in :o :o

Ek moes my onnebroek weggooi ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: NO GOOD on March 03, 2009, 10:15:55 pm
lekker Chappie!!!
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Sprocketbek on March 04, 2009, 01:43:07 am


Ek moes my onnebroek weggooi ;D

Ek dink ek is al deur 'n paar onderbroeke in die afgelope jaar.



Ten minste glo ek nie jou probleem is 'n foutiewe onderdeel nie, net 'n dodgy kontak. As dit weer voorkom hoort jy dit weer uit te sort.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Kaboef on March 04, 2009, 03:46:55 am
Captain, you've bought a lemon.

Sell it to me cheap-cheap and buy a KLR.




 :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: KiLRoy on March 04, 2009, 05:51:06 am
Quote
Alan Lewis has just recieved a box or two of plugs for the 1200
They are the Bosh plugs.

I bought a set of 4 and let me tell you, you will have a smile on your face
after you have paid for them compared to BMW parts center.

Which ones?

Still sitting with til-tik noise - mostly only there when hot and worse under load, mid-range (4-6k rpm) when opening up uphill or with pillion (worse).  Sounds like current on an electric fence.  plugs are fine, valves clearance fine ... bike is running a tad lean with the aftermarket zorst.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 07:31:18 am
Captain, you've bought a lemon.

Sell it to me cheap-cheap and buy a KLR.




 :biggrin:

NEVER!!! >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 07:33:00 am
Quote
Alan Lewis has just recieved a box or two of plugs for the 1200
They are the Bosh plugs.

I bought a set of 4 and let me tell you, you will have a smile on your face
after you have paid for them compared to BMW parts center.

Which ones?

Still sitting with til-tik noise - mostly only there when hot and worse under load, mid-range (4-6k rpm) when opening up uphill or with pillion (worse).  Sounds like current on an electric fence.  plugs are fine, valves clearance fine ... bike is running a tad lean with the aftermarket zorst.

Kilroy you just discribed my bike perfectly..... i also have tik tik up a hill when its hot in the midrange with an aftermarket pipe and pillion... :o :o

Is there a connection here?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: JacoM on March 04, 2009, 11:09:23 am
Well, I am "very much" interested in this thread. I also have this tik..tik sound on my bike. Sometimes its softer, sometimes more obvious!
Our local agent (Donford) checked it out and adjusted the tappets /clearance of some sort. Seemed solved at the time, but now it is back again. Somebody said it might by noize coming from the injectors?
The bike is a 2004 model with "only" 7700km. Had a complete fluid change at 6200km
The sound is a high pitch tik-tik - simular to the sound of a leak on a car exhaust manifold, but I see no evidence of a leak on the two exhaust gaskets.
Regards

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 11:22:27 am
This is getting interesting.... i wonder how many owners have the same sound.... ::)

Maybe it is normal.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Bakkie on March 04, 2009, 11:26:35 am
This is getting interesting.... i wonder how many owners have the same sound.... ::)

Maybe it is normal.

sounds like it   ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 11:28:59 am
This is getting interesting.... i wonder how many owners have the same sound.... ::)

Maybe it is normal.

sounds like it   ;D

Het jy nie 'n KTM om aan die brand te skop nie? Die is 'n ernstige thread.. ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Kuifie on March 04, 2009, 11:39:53 am
I am so pissed at myself at the moment.....  >:(

I went down to Oudtshoorn this weekend with fully loaded bike.

On the way down everything was fine.

On Saturday i started hearing a tik tik tik noise coming from the engine.... i thought ahh maybe its cold oil a bit of valve noise maybe.

On my way back to PE today the tik tik noise started getting louder and i thought oh fuck!! what can make the noise...  :o :o

50km outside PE i started losing power and was only able to go at about 120km/h full taps...  :o

It suddenly became clear that the tik tik noise was spark jumping at a plug connection....

I haven't opened anything yet, will look tomorrow night...  :-[

Anybody got some advice on what to look for this can't be the first time this happened?

Is that black thing over the plug the coil?

Who has a 1200GS service manual on CD that i can have or where can i download...

Is dit nou waar die BMW safe mode moet inkom
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 11:46:12 am
Is dit nou waar die BMW safe mode moet inkom

 :booty:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Kuifie on March 04, 2009, 11:49:45 am
mwhaaa . hey bly jou bike is reg
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 04, 2009, 12:40:20 pm
Quote
Alan Lewis has just recieved a box or two of plugs for the 1200
They are the Bosh plugs.

I bought a set of 4 and let me tell you, you will have a smile on your face
after you have paid for them compared to BMW parts center.

Which ones?

Still sitting with til-tik noise - mostly only there when hot and worse under load, mid-range (4-6k rpm) when opening up uphill or with pillion (worse).  Sounds like current on an electric fence.  plugs are fine, valves clearance fine ... bike is running a tad lean with the aftermarket zorst.

Kilroy you just discribed my bike perfectly..... i also have tik tik up a hill when its hot in the midrange with an aftermarket pipe and pillion... :o :o

Is there a connection here?

Jy wou my mos nie glo nie dis ping daai ou maat
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: RobC on March 04, 2009, 12:52:44 pm
Quote
Alan Lewis has just recieved a box or two of plugs for the 1200
They are the Bosh plugs.

I bought a set of 4 and let me tell you, you will have a smile on your face
after you have paid for them compared to BMW parts center.

Which ones?

Still sitting with til-tik noise - mostly only there when hot and worse under load, mid-range (4-6k rpm) when opening up uphill or with pillion (worse).  Sounds like current on an electric fence.  plugs are fine, valves clearance fine ... bike is running a tad lean with the aftermarket zorst.
Does a lean mixture not ignite easier than a overly rich one? You may need to richen the mix to get the preignition sorted?
(Stabbing wildly in the dark)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:03:20 pm
Quote
Alan Lewis has just recieved a box or two of plugs for the 1200
They are the Bosh plugs.

I bought a set of 4 and let me tell you, you will have a smile on your face
after you have paid for them compared to BMW parts center.

Which ones?

Still sitting with til-tik noise - mostly only there when hot and worse under load, mid-range (4-6k rpm) when opening up uphill or with pillion (worse).  Sounds like current on an electric fence.  plugs are fine, valves clearance fine ... bike is running a tad lean with the aftermarket zorst.

Kilroy you just discribed my bike perfectly..... i also have tik tik up a hill when its hot in the midrange with an aftermarket pipe and pillion... :o :o

Is there a connection here?

Jy wou my mos nie glo nie dis ping daai ou maat

Ek weet nie dis 'n raaisel...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: KiLRoy on March 04, 2009, 01:06:01 pm
According to Welsh - this maybe something to do with the ignition sensor - pre-igniting ???  Donno,  ping Welshman
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 04, 2009, 01:09:12 pm
pre-igniting is ping

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 04, 2009, 01:23:57 pm
ping or preignition is not going to be a faint tik-tik-tik sound

ping is when the piston is still on the upstroke and the petrol ignites and explodes before the pistons has passed TDC

so the explosion is trying to force the piston down but the piston cant to down as it is still going up

very bad for the engine and continue pinging will damage and destroy the engine

you will have very bad performance as the engine would be working against itself

and you will hear it - normally pinging happens at low RPM under heavy load

pinging at 5000rpm thats a bit strange  ???

does the bike still perform as it should when it makes this noise  ???

if it does then i doubt its ping  :-\

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:27:39 pm
My bike performs fine when you hear the sound....

I've felt it ping due to being in the wrong gear and the revs were to low, it makes the whole bike shake.... this is not what i feel in the midrange revs while hearing the tik tik sound...

I must add i am a perfectionist and very full of shit... so i'll investigate all funny sounds... maybe its normal....  :P


It could very well be injector noise... i've heard the same sound once on a BMW car... 325i.... injectors went tik tik tik as it idled...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: JacoM on March 04, 2009, 01:31:56 pm
I also think it is not pinging. (Obviously only a gues) .No it does not loose power.
I will now monitor it more closely from now on. hot vs cold noize, left vs right and try and spot the origin allthough I am "versigtig" for a high voltage spark to my ear! What I find strange is that it is not constant, which feels like some control related issue?!

ps. should this be moved to a new topic as in 1200GS tik...tik?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 04, 2009, 01:32:39 pm
I've felt it ping due to being in the wrong gear and the revs were to low, it makes the whole bike shake.... this is not what i feel in the midrange revs while hearing the tik tik sound...

exactly - ping the engine is trying to blow itself up - so you will feel and hear it trying to self destruct  :ricky:

if its a faint tik-tik-tik it could be valve noise but i doubt it - you dont normally hear the valves unless the bike is at idle  :-\

i think its probably the injectors - working overtime to push as much petrol in as possible to cater for the high rpm and the load

on a ktm or something similar the injectors are sitting inside the bike onder the seat and tank so you wont hear it

but on the boxer the injectors are out in the open and it might just be the source of the sound

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 04, 2009, 01:34:54 pm

and you will hear it - normally pinging happens at low RPM under heavy load

pinging at 5000rpm thats a bit strange  ???

does the bike still perform as it should when it makes this noise  ???

if it does then i doubt its ping  :-\



My car pings at 3-4k rpm on the highway due to the low octane rating, the fuel map was designed for a bit higher. The performance is a little bit worse, but not a lot. So it can happen throughout the rev range.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
ps. should this be moved to a new topic as in 1200GS tik...tik?

No need to split the threads.... i changed the name.... ;)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 04, 2009, 01:36:45 pm
My car pings at 3-4k rpm on the highway due to the low octane rating, the fuel map was designed for a bit higher. The performance is a little bit worse, but not a lot. So it can happen throughout the rev range.

what fuel your running?

i heard from a guy (he own a reputable dyno tuning place) that engen is the k@kest fuel - it pings easier than the rest

he said to (if possible) rather fill up with sasol or shell as its less prone to pre-ignition

whether its true or not i dont know  :-\
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 01:37:09 pm
My bike performs fine when you hear the sound....

I've felt it ping due to being in the wrong gear and the revs were to low, it makes the whole bike shake.... this is not what i feel in the midrange revs while hearing the tik tik sound...

I must add i am a perfectionist and very full of shit... so i'll investigate all funny sounds... maybe its normal....  :P


It could very well be injector noise... i've heard the same sound once on a BMW car... 325i.... injectors went tik tik tik as it idled...  :biggrin:

Is it on the left hand side ?

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:38:16 pm
My car pings at 3-4k rpm on the highway due to the low octane rating, the fuel map was designed for a bit higher. The performance is a little bit worse, but not a lot. So it can happen throughout the rev range.

Oh sh*t that is also true.... my brother's car did that... :-\
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 04, 2009, 01:38:47 pm
My car pings at 3-4k rpm on the highway due to the low octane rating, the fuel map was designed for a bit higher. The performance is a little bit worse, but not a lot. So it can happen throughout the rev range.

what fuel your running?

i heard from a guy (he own a reputable dyno tuning place) that engen is the k@kest fuel - it pings easier than the rest

he said to (if possible) rather fill up with sasol or shell as its less prone to pre-ignition

whether its true or not i dont know  :-\

I'm running Shell. Adding octane booster helps though.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:39:04 pm
My bike performs fine when you hear the sound....

I've felt it ping due to being in the wrong gear and the revs were to low, it makes the whole bike shake.... this is not what i feel in the midrange revs while hearing the tik tik sound...

I must add i am a perfectionist and very full of shit... so i'll investigate all funny sounds... maybe its normal....  :P


It could very well be injector noise... i've heard the same sound once on a BMW car... 325i.... injectors went tik tik tik as it idled...  :biggrin:

Is it on the left hand side ?



On the bike?

Can't tell.... it only happens while riding... does not happen at idle..
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 01:40:32 pm

if its a faint tik-tik-tik it could be valve noise but i doubt it - you dont normally hear the valves unless the bike is at idle  :-\


You haven't dealt much with the big boxers have you ?

;D ;D ;D ;D

The biggest skill on getting a new (big) GS is getting used to the sounds so that you can ID those that shouldn't be there...


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 01:41:03 pm
My bike performs fine when you hear the sound....

I've felt it ping due to being in the wrong gear and the revs were to low, it makes the whole bike shake.... this is not what i feel in the midrange revs while hearing the tik tik sound...

I must add i am a perfectionist and very full of shit... so i'll investigate all funny sounds... maybe its normal....  :P


It could very well be injector noise... i've heard the same sound once on a BMW car... 325i.... injectors went tik tik tik as it idled...  :biggrin:

Is it on the left hand side ?



On the bike?

Can't tell.... it only happens while riding... does not happen at idle..

Yeah - but you can bob your head to the left and right and hear if it goes louder or softer...


;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 04, 2009, 01:41:46 pm
anyone ever fitted a power commander to R1200GS with an after market exhaust?

and does this noise only appear on bikes with after market exhausts or OEM exhausts as well?

if both then i would not stress - if only on after market exhausts then it might very well be running a little bit lean  ???
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Vark on March 04, 2009, 01:48:12 pm
Mine is stock standard (2004 model, 33000Kms) and also ticks a little. Been like that forever.
It's probably normal.
Did you change helmets recently? Could it be that you're hearing more (or less of something else) than before??
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 04, 2009, 01:50:04 pm
maybe buy some ear plugs could be the cheapest way to fix this problem  >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:51:20 pm
Mine is stock standard (2004 model, 33000Kms) and also ticks a little. Been like that forever.
It's probably normal.
Did you change helmets recently? Could it be that you're hearing more (or less of something else) than before??


Only got the bike two weeks ago.... all new to me...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 01:51:49 pm

Yeah - but you can bob your head to the left and right and hear if it goes louder or softer...

;D

Jy wil nou he ek moet my gat sien.. ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Vark on March 04, 2009, 01:54:54 pm

Only got the bike two weeks ago.... all new to me...
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I'll make a point of listening for this on other boxers... Might just be a less than ideal set up and I did not even realise it.  :P
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 02:00:32 pm

Only got the bike two weeks ago.... all new to me...

I'll make a point of listening for this on other boxers... Might just be a less than ideal set up and I did not even realise it.  :P
[/quote]

Will give my bike to an experienced GS rider to ride and he can decide...
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Kaboef on March 04, 2009, 04:22:17 pm
The 1200 has a couple of weird noises.


But the 1150 takes the cake.   :eek7:
First time I rode my old 1150GSA I thought the bike might fall apart at any moment.  :biggrin:

But then again, I came from an Africa Twin, probably the smoothest-sounding bike ever built.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 04:24:15 pm
The 1200 has a couple of weird noises.


But the 1150 takes the cake.   :eek7:
First time I rode my old 1150GSA I thought the bike might fall apart at any moment.  :biggrin:

But then again, I came from an Africa Twin, probably the smoothest-sounding bike ever built.

The 1100 and the 1150 have the same base for the engine - I thought mine was about to have a main bearing knock.

It did that without using oil and without breaking from 95000km 'till just about 160 000km...

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 04:42:20 pm
Lyk my hulle maak maar baie geraas ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Joyride on March 04, 2009, 04:48:42 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 04, 2009, 04:51:05 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.

120 vir 'n 12GS is so goed soos gaan staan  >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 04:52:05 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.


;D ;D ;D


Die boxer se spieŽls is 'n goeie 'health check' op die engine.
So gou as wat dinge in die rear view mirror meer blurry begin raak, dan weet jy die engine is ongelukkig...

;D ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 04:55:20 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.


;D ;D ;D


Die boxer se spieŽls is 'n goeie 'health check' op die engine.
So gou as wat dinge in die rear view mirror meer blurry begin raak, dan weet jy die engine is ongelukkig...

;D ;D

:laughing4:

Met 'n KLR is dit anders om... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: buzzlightyear on March 04, 2009, 05:01:07 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.


;D ;D ;D


Die boxer se spieŽls is 'n goeie 'health check' op die engine.
So gou as wat dinge in die rear view mirror meer blurry begin raak, dan weet jy die engine is ongelukkig...

;D ;D

:laughing4:

Met 'n KLR is dit anders om... ;D ;D ;D

Ja, as die spieels nie blur nie is die enjin dood.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 05:03:52 pm
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: ktmmer on March 04, 2009, 05:46:56 pm
Ek sweer hulle het KTM plugs ingesit
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Paulsky on March 04, 2009, 07:12:25 pm
I told you come to the dark side, you know you want to
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 04, 2009, 07:47:19 pm
I told you come to the dark side, you know you want to

No jinne Paul KTM engine will have me biting the little bit of nail i have left... :D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!!!
Post by: TK-Ten on March 04, 2009, 08:37:24 pm

 


Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.
[/quote]

Captain , is jy seker dis nie jou anti-virus program wat 'n update kort nie ? :D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: GEE-SH on March 05, 2009, 09:10:40 am
Hou op worry - die boxers maak so, dit is wat hulle so spesiaal maak - elke boxer motor het n persoonlikheid.  Die getikkery is normaal.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 11:08:22 am
Ek kan eerlik nie dink die getikkery is normaal nie, moet setting issues of spark issues wees.  Die bike respond ook nie wanneer ek afgear (veral 3 na 2 en 2 na 1) en die throttle blip nie.  Partykeer is daar net niks nie (veral as ek dit bietjie oopgemaak het) en 3 of 4 keer het die bike al gevrek - dis donners gevaarlik dan, veral op gravel.  My feeling is that its running lean - and maybe have spark issues.  Sorry, this pinging or tikkking wil bug me forever, I can't just live with it.  It makes me not trusting the bike, even if its mental.

Only way I would guess - is to have a fully analysis on the machines at the next (40k) service??

H
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: GEE-SH on March 05, 2009, 11:55:12 am
Ek kan eerlik nie dink die getikkery is normaal nie, moet setting issues of spark issues wees.  Die bike respond ook nie wanneer ek afgear (veral 3 na 2 en 2 na 1) en die throttle blip nie.  Partykeer is daar net niks nie (veral as ek dit bietjie oopgemaak het) en 3 of 4 keer het die bike al gevrek - dis donners gevaarlik dan, veral op gravel.  My feeling is that its running lean - and maybe have spark issues.  Sorry, this pinging or tikkking wil bug me forever, I can't just live with it.  It makes me not trusting the bike, even if its mental.

Only way I would guess - is to have a fully analysis on the machines at the next (40k) service??

H

The main, causes of the tik-tik-tik sounds on a healthy engine are either the injectors which are suposed to do it, as they need to open and close or the tappits - the old saying comes to mind "a noisy tappit is a happy tappit" the moment you can not hear any tappit tik-tik-tik-tik the setting is wrong which means the it might be possible that the tappits do not close fully which directly results in burnt tappits.

If you have a fuel injected car hold your ear near die injectors or the tappit cover, you will hear the tik-tik-tik.  Or go by a Bosch agent and have alook and listen at the injectors that are tested on a test bench.



Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 12:18:16 pm
Checked the tappets - its fine.  The tik-tik is not as in a sound the tappets made, its got a electric sound it it, much like an electric fence or when a steel pipe runs down a wire on a foefie slide, but fast intermittently....if you know what I mean.  Closer to a pinging sound than a tappet sound.

hope i make sense :biggrin: ???
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 05, 2009, 12:21:50 pm
Its a tik tik with a crackle sounds inbetween..... ;D

Funny that the ex KLR riders hear these things :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: GEE-SH on March 05, 2009, 01:13:51 pm
Checked the tappets - its fine.  The tik-tik is not as in a sound the tappets made, its got a electric sound it it, much like an electric fence or when a steel pipe runs down a wire on a foefie slide, but fast intermittently....if you know what I mean.  Closer to a pinging sound than a tappet sound.

hope i make sense :biggrin: ???

It sounds like it is losing spark - hahahaha.

If it is losing spark, start the engine in a garage that is totally dark, if it is losing spark you will see the little blue miniature lightning bolts dancing on the plug leads, coil, or plug heads.  The only problem is to turn the headlight of the GS off, if it is the same as the 1200GS there is a way to do it, I've read it somewhere on the net. (easiest way is to pull plug out to the HL Globe(s) my 2c's
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: LeonDude on March 05, 2009, 01:16:40 pm
Checked the tappets - its fine.  The tik-tik is not as in a sound the tappets made, its got a electric sound it it, much like an electric fence or when a steel pipe runs down a wire on a foefie slide, but fast intermittently....if you know what I mean.  Closer to a pinging sound than a tappet sound.

hope i make sense :biggrin: ???

It sounds like it is losing spark - hahahaha.

If it is losing spark, start the engine in a garage that is totally dark, if it is losing spark you will see the little blue miniature lightning bolts dancing on the plug leads, coil, or plug heads.  The only problem is to turn the headlight of the GS off, if it is the same as the 1200GS there is a way to do it, I've read it somewhere on the net. (easiest way is to pull plug out to the HL Globe(s) my 2c's

And don't kill yourself by running the engine in an enclosed space for too long. Those russian brides will never get over it.

Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: TK-Ten on March 05, 2009, 01:18:07 pm
Its a tik tik with a crackle sounds inbetween..... ;D

Funny that the ex KLR riders hear these things :biggrin:
" Crackle sound " ? Maybe there is Rice Crispies in your oil !  :D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Kaboef on March 05, 2009, 01:19:36 pm
Ek kan eerlik nie dink die getikkery is normaal nie, moet setting issues of spark issues wees.  Die bike respond ook nie wanneer ek afgear (veral 3 na 2 en 2 na 1) en die throttle blip nie.  Partykeer is daar net niks nie (veral as ek dit bietjie oopgemaak het) en 3 of 4 keer het die bike al gevrek - dis donners gevaarlik dan, veral op gravel.  My feeling is that its running lean - and maybe have spark issues.  Sorry, this pinging or tikkking wil bug me forever, I can't just live with it.  It makes me not trusting the bike, even if its mental.

Only way I would guess - is to have a fully analysis on the machines at the next (40k) service??

H

Hein, dit klink my my soos fuelling issues.
Idle die bike reg?

As dit spark was sou dit heeltyd gebeur het. Laat die throttle bodies syncronize, en maak al jou sensors skoon  (al daai klomp kak op die throttle bodies en airbox).

'n Airflow sensor is 'n bliksem. As dit moet, leen iemand anders sin, sit hom in jou bike, en gaan ry die kak uit hom uit. Kyk of hy dit nogsteeds doen.

Maar laat jou throttle bodies syncronize. Dit maak genuine 'n moerse verskil.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 05:15:23 pm
Throttle bodies is gesync - bike idle vir my 'n bietjie laag en soek heeltyd choke om te start.  Dink nogsteeds dit run lean??  Met KLR was dit maklik - 1/2 draai op die skroef - met die ding is dit sensors en kak....??
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Adventurer on March 05, 2009, 05:35:40 pm
Throttle bodies is gesync - bike idle vir my 'n bietjie laag en soek heeltyd choke om te start.  Dink nogsteeds dit run lean??  Met KLR was dit maklik - 1/2 draai op die skroef - met die ding is dit sensors en kak....??

There are fuel enrichment adjusting screws on your throttle bodies, but you must know how to mess around with them.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 05, 2009, 09:01:31 pm
My bike is gecheck vanaand.... alles is reg....

Ek is maar net vol kak ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: the_BOBNOB on March 05, 2009, 09:34:49 pm
Ek is maar net vol kak ;D

vertel ons iets wat ons nie alreeds weet nie  >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Paulsky on March 05, 2009, 11:32:30 pm
I think you're on Tik
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: BiG DoM on March 06, 2009, 09:07:00 am
Quick tip full pulling the 1200 plug caps rather than using 'a big flat screwdriver' ... that can screw with the cap and paint if not careful ...

Loop a cable tie around the cap and give quick tug - cannot believe that BMW does not put a cap puller in the 'tool kit' (if one can even call it that) F*ckers  :laughing4:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 06, 2009, 09:14:20 am
Quick tip full pulling the 1200 plug caps rather than using 'a big flat screwdriver' ... that can screw with the cap and paint if not careful ...

Loop a cable tie around the cap and give quick tug - cannot believe that BMW does not put a cap puller in the 'tool kit' (if one can even call it that) F*ckers  :laughing4:

Bunch of tossers....

What about the plug spanner?
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: michnus on March 06, 2009, 09:19:10 am
Pre 05 or something you got a proper tool kit, then after that you got BMW ON CALL.

Go to Midas and make up a tool kit, look on the fische for parts they show the complete tool kit. The spark plug puller is a must, I had to use it last weekend my bike sucked water on the Commitees drift road.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: BiG DoM on March 06, 2009, 12:16:36 pm
Pre 05 or something you got a proper tool kit, then after that you got BMW ON CALL.

Go to Midas and make up a tool kit, look on the fische for parts they show the complete tool kit. The spark plug puller is a must, I had to use it last weekend my bike sucked water on the Commitees drift road.

Actually now I think of it I did get a plug cap puller - sat somewhere under the seat? Lasted only a month or so - piece of crap. Long reach (and thin so does not stick) plug spanner a must.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 06, 2009, 12:19:08 pm
Pre 05 or something you got a proper tool kit, then after that you got BMW ON CALL.

Go to Midas and make up a tool kit, look on the fische for parts they show the complete tool kit. The spark plug puller is a must, I had to use it last weekend my bike sucked water on the Commitees drift road.

Whats this?  :scratch:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Poffmuis on March 06, 2009, 12:37:03 pm
parts and part number lookup template

like this http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do?vin=&kind=M&arch=0
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Paulsky on March 08, 2009, 07:10:34 am
Come to the dark side Luke
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: GreenMamba1974 on March 08, 2009, 08:32:09 am
hehehe, cappie you're going to become a good mechanic after riding this bm.  make friends with your bank manager.  first thing monday morning go buy him/her something nice!   :pot:

bmw branded tools work much better according to bmw.   :mwink: >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: michnus on March 08, 2009, 08:33:58 am
Come to the dark side Luke

Touting not allowed, consider this your last warning.  >:D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on March 08, 2009, 08:01:55 pm
Nah i love my GS will not change. Goes like klappers. ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Paulsky on March 08, 2009, 08:09:17 pm
Tikkers more like
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Ganjora on March 08, 2009, 09:20:11 pm
somebody slap that rude man.
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Etienne2T on March 08, 2009, 10:29:37 pm
Nah i love my GS will not change. Goes like klappers. ;D

*click_save quote*
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on April 13, 2009, 06:17:22 pm
Interesting read for the guys that experience the Tik tik noise....

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20368&highlight=Ping

I've narrowed it down.... seems like many GS owners have the same problem...

Will take my bike in for diagnostics this week....  :xxbah:
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Bakkie on April 13, 2009, 06:20:38 pm
miskien is die tik tik jou biological clock  :imaposer:

jy moet nou vir jou 'n vrou kry skipper  ;D of het jy een waarvan ons nie weet nie  ;)
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on April 13, 2009, 06:23:51 pm
miskien is die tik tik jou biological clock  :imaposer:

jy moet nou vir jou 'n vrou kry skipper  ;D of het jy een waarvan ons nie weet nie  ;)

Moenie my thread hijack nie..... dammit ;D
Title: Re: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound
Post by: Captain Zef on April 13, 2009, 06:31:12 pm
Some more interesting stuff....

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86789&highlight=R1200GS+ping

Carbon... hmmm...

I like the part of revving the shit out of it... ;D