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Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 07, 2006, 02:50:34 am
I realized that the previous topic name was a bit presumptuous, the "original"adventure ride was probably back in the 1890's by some brave soul wearing a derby. So I thought I'd stick closer to the truth. :D

I have about 170 photos of my all expenses paid, "a little more adventure than you planned" tour of southern Africa in 1982,. According to the masters of puppets at the time it was "just barely inside SWA and nowhere near Angola". All righty then.
In that case these photos were taken in the mine dumps outside Brakpan by Simon Fourie.
A few of these have been seen by maybe 5 or 6 people, but most have just sat in a box, lately I've been looking at them more often.
While scanning these I remembered many details that I had forgotten. I also noticed several things that I never even realized at the time: even when screwing around, R4's were always close at hand, the way the guys  always kept good separation especially when stopped, the way the bikes turned from brown to red as the weeks went by and the paint was rubbed and scratched off.
Except for photos of our 3 serious casualties, they are all "happy" shots, of a bunch of 19 and 20 year-olds having a jol, wheelying, swimming, braaing, and fixing flats. I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but if I close my eyes I can hear conversations and see images and "footage" from 25 years ago as if it happened 25 minutes ago. Good and bad, and some that I wish I could print so, for instance, the smiling face of a dead parabat would stay in sharper focus. The other senses remember too - touch and especially smell, it's an amazing capability of the mind.
All the faces in these photos went safely home to mama, minus a reasonable amount of blood, skin, and bone sacrificed to the Gods of Moto :D
These are shots of fun on two wheels, plain and simple. No political statements or subliminal messages.

Bike squad was based at SWASPES outside the little town of Otavi, together with the other specialist units like horses (berede), tracker dogs, and human trackers. It's an area of dense bush, hot as hell in summer and very cold nights in winter. During the annual dry season "farm incursion" by swapo's special forces my platoon was heavily involved as were gunships, Ratels, parabats, and Koevoet units. This terrain wasn't really suitable for bikes so we spent much of it in Buffels or on foot. Tracking took up much of our time, after a while I could do a decent bloodhound impression from sticking close to the highly-trained trackers, who were, by the way, all white guys in this case.  We still had the "old" XR's, with the 23 inch front wheel. They had huge bashplates and brushbars mounted, which contradicted the mission: if the bush was dense enough to need them, you couldn't go fast anyways. Bike doctrine was all about SPEED. :D  Not only that, but it made them handle like pigs, and the bashplates were designed as the perfect tool for breaking ankles. We didn't like them much.
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Wasting our time somewhere, channeled onto a track through bush too dense to ride in.

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Early one morning after riding up and down a railway line all night shooting off massive amounts of ammo as a diversion.

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We spent some nights doing farm protection. This specific farmer had a very sexy daughter who was going to university in SA the next year, we assured them that we'd pull in any time protection was needed. :D
At another farm, another story.........

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We were not the only ones with fun toys: Alouette gunships, with the 20mm cannon sticking out the left door. One of the pilots could wheelie rather well. The gunners were incredibly good shots.

Around May we fetched 60 or 70 brand-new XR's from a transport depot in Grootfontein. My bike had 0.5 km on the clock. As I recall, the highest mileage on any one of them was 4 km. Of course, one of the guys moered down on the tar road turning left out of the depot, total mileage 0.8 km  :P  :P
After the farm show, a new loot and I took over the other bike platoon from the July intake leadership who were headed home. There were only two bike platoons, a  total of not quite 60 guys. We spent some time training, basically all we did was ride all day every day. As the platoon sergeant, I quickly figured out that my guys couldn't partake in picking up cigarette butts or digging toilets, we had "maintenance and training" every day. It was also a very effective way to control 25 hooligans - I made them a deal, as long as they didn't cause shit and get me in trouble, I'd stick to that story, but if I got ONE BIT of grief from the higher-ups they would dig or sweep or scrub something until my problem went away. Of course, the troublemakers in the platoon had to test the terms of the agreement once or twice, but they saw the wisdom of my system right away :D  I have always been a firm believer in the principle of mutual benefit.

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Daily training. The oke closest to the camera was 16 years old at the time. Next to him, the 19 year old loot executes a perfect front wheel landing. New bikes, still all brown.

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Our local MX track, called "Back of the Stables". Second moto in progress. We laid out tracks everywhere and raced around like madmen, even in Angola.

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About 40 k's away at a mine named Kombat was an actual track, mostly deep sand with a few jumps, it was good training for what was to follow. Practicing my sand riding.

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Right next to swaspes base was a rock quarry that provided excellent training and lots of thrills and spills.

We did a lot of riding on railway service roads, they were typically fairly nice tweespoors that switched back and forth across the rails where terrain dictated. On one such ride, two guys kept playing the old falling-back-and-racing-to-catch-up game, and I warned them they were headed for a fall. We came to a spot where the track went between two bushes and made a blind, sharp left turn across the railway line, and we all knew this was going to be a laugh. I hid behind one bush, and everybody else waited and watched across the rails out of sight. As expected, the two hotshots came screaming between the two bushes at about 80, and never even saw the turn. I heard them swearing as they went by me, they bashed a long way into the bush and one moered down. The rest of us were in stitches. I  still clearly remember the sheepish looks on their faces after they got themselves extracted from the thornbushes and rocks and got back on the track. Much later I discovered what a brilliant shot I managed to snap as they went by me:
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Note the audience at top left, and the fact that neither is even on the brakes yet :P  :P  :P

At the races. This base was called Tsintsabis, we laid out a mean track in the thick sand just outside the wall. I learned a lot about sand riding that day, mainly KEEP IT PINNED!!
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8156/tsintsabisracesob8.jpg)

OK, it's beer o'clock. Be back later.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: shark_za on December 07, 2006, 06:55:21 am
Sweet post man.

I saw most of these bikes parked in 4VRP when I was near there.
Rows and rows in a warehouse.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: wino on December 07, 2006, 07:55:24 am
excellent!!!
that pic of the 2 hotshots creating a new track is classic :D  :D
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: funacide on December 07, 2006, 08:04:02 am
Aewsome pics man, keep them coming!!!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: BlouVark on December 07, 2006, 08:10:33 am
More please, best report yet. I dig this stuff.
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Post by: macduff on December 07, 2006, 08:51:54 am
ditto to above...
i was in the navy, and had no idea of what was going on up there...

keep it coming  :lol:  :lol:
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: JourneyMan on December 07, 2006, 09:21:13 am
"Hoennervleis" report there!

We regulars held you okes in the bike squad in awe. 8)

I did the Lohatla thing on a DR500. Not closely related to what you guys did. But still fun doing crazy things on equipment and repairs provided free of charge!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: LuckyStriker on December 07, 2006, 10:59:39 am
Amazing - thanks for posting this!

two questions:
Were the bikes made more stealthy (dampened exhausts) or did you roar wherever you went?
Those boots - did you wear the slightly longer parabat boots or normal infantry stinkers. They look longer than the ones I wore

brilliant thread. those bikes look schweet!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Clockwork Orange on December 07, 2006, 11:40:24 am
What I would have given to be part of your "regiment". The only thing I drove/rode in the airforce besides a desk was the odd jaunt on the Yamaha XJF (i think) 400 shaft drive piece of sh!t. Besides the obvious Nissan 120Y and toyota hilux bakkie (with column shift)

Fantastic report there something completely different.

MORE!!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Kev on December 07, 2006, 12:58:51 pm
Looks like you had more fun than what I did in Soweto! More please!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: D7 on December 07, 2006, 01:30:04 pm
excellent post.   loving the pics. more after the beer 'o clock....PLEASE!!!
 :shock:  :shock:  :)
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: X Banana Boy on December 07, 2006, 04:02:07 pm
Excellent  more more  :D  :D
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: toucan on December 07, 2006, 04:39:36 pm
great stuff, have you posted it at advrider.com? they like guns and bikes. 8)  :roll:
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Lito on December 07, 2006, 04:48:18 pm
fook me... this is ace.

HUGE THUMBS UP  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

what size rear wheel? that bashplate looks designed not to break angles, but to slice them off.

fooking heck
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: GIDEON on December 07, 2006, 06:34:29 pm
BEVANGE
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: MrBig on December 07, 2006, 08:29:19 pm
BLIKSEM!

Great stuff!

I wish I had taken more pics of my army days..
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Post by: mango on December 07, 2006, 10:36:03 pm
Wow, fantastic stuff....more please?
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Post by: masehare on December 08, 2006, 07:59:46 am
Uber cool! More please!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: krazy-eyes on December 08, 2006, 10:41:56 am
dude!!!!!!!!! you should write a book!
this is awesome stuff!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Grootseun on December 08, 2006, 11:55:31 am
I need to echo what every-one else said...

This is an absolutely awesome report, thos pics are unbelievable, a real insider's look into the happenings, not some propganda bullshit.

Dude, whethefakareyou.. you should be back in sunny SA....you will like it here.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 09, 2006, 06:13:41 am
Back from the tooth fundi.
Re the questions,
1. The silencers on those XR's were very efficient, as long as you didn't take the baffle out it was surprisingly quiet.  Notihng like modern Hondas and KTMs, if anything they were very much choked off. In the first week or two in Ovambo we got curious about it, and did some informal testing, found that a single bike could sneak up to about 150m before you'd hear it, a section or more made a rumble at 300m or so, but it was very hard to determine what direction it came from. While doing this, we also noticed what a huge difference it made when the headlights were disconnected. With lights on you could easily see bikes coming towards you 2k's away, without lights you couldn't make out what it was till 3 or 400m away. A captured swap at Mahanene later told us that they were shit scared of the bikes, because we would appear so suddenly at high speed.
2. We were all issued red and black MX boots at Berede in Potch, but those soon ended up at the bottom of our balsaks cause walking in them was a bitch. We did lots of THAT during the farm caper, I can remember one specific morning tracking for 15k's nonstop. They were kak boots anyways, I never wore them.
3. The rear wheels were standard 19 inchers, just like modern dirt bikes. Honda moered off the wagon with that big front wheel, they had some handling theory that turned out to be just that.

After the last "special forces" terr, whom we chased for weeks, was accidentally captured by a farmer and his son out hunting not far from our quarry racetrack, we did a period of training with the new (to the loot and me) platoon on the new bikes. We went to Oshivelo for 2 weeks of typical infantry rondfok: ambushes, TB's, mine drills etc etc, as if  there was more to a mine drill for bikes than picking up bits and pieces. A "coin refresher" they called it There was a big commotion the day we left,  some huge operation starting, the most interesting thing to us was a dog on one of the Kwevoels, by the name of Smoke - he was supposed to be the meanest, most  vicious mutt in the whole dog unit. Didn't look like much, just your average pavement special with a curly tail. We kept more than his leash distance away to compensate for errors in judgement  though.
Once in Ovambo, for admin purposes we were based at 52 Bn at Ogongo, we only spent enough time there to make a mortal enemy of a typical PF twatwaffle, this one was an Intelligence captain (what an oxymoron) who wore a fucking beret in the bush, in addition to shorts with kneelength socks and GRASSHOPPERS :lol: A total wanker, he made us run 2,4's and 7 k's in the sand, and gave me and the loot a sandbag opfok one day just cause he could. I hated that bastard with a passion, especially since he tried and came within a whisker of killing me once, only a decision made in the middle of the night by who or what I don't know to this day caused a Buffel to set off a cheesemine on the cutline instead of me on my bike.
But the RSM was an exceptional character, we called him Asterix cause he looked just like him. Asterix had been my CompanySM at Oudtshoorn in 1980, he remembered me, from day one he assigned us "maintenance" at every morning's parade while the other okes got to pick up stompies and scrub toilets :D Asterix was hilarious to watch and listen to, I can still hear him yelling at an MP we had in the platoon in 1980:  ....kopperaal Raubenheiiiimeeeeeer!!!! .......maak die plante nat, dis so droog soos 'n non se twassock!!!!   Pardon my french. A really good oke, not all PF's were bad.
We started doing patrols, first time out we didn't wear helmets, and had a few fuckups, but we learned quickly. We had most of the relatively few flats we ever got during the first week or two, never quite figured out why.
The locals were almost always friendly, they lent us a pump this time:
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One of my favourite shots, shows the formation we rode when crossing open shonas

Within the first two or three weeks we had our first serious casualty, the locals cut trees down to just over a metre and used them as preinstalled fenceposts. Just after sunset one day we hit one such steel wire fence, everybody managed to stop except for one poor oke who went right through, the top wire caught him by the throat and he did a double summy off the back of the bike, I was about 30m away on his right and saw it happen in slow motion. The wire tore his windpipe, so that his neck started to swell up from air escaping under the skin. He was casevaced, as I recall vehicles came and fetched him to the nearest base from where a chopper flew him to Oshakati. It was a shame, he was a real character and a good oke, always smiling, he joined the platoon again when we left Ovambo on the way home in December.

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Right after the incident, our wounded oke is standing 4th from the right by the bike's front wheel.

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On one of our early outings before we wised up and started wearing helmets

Initially we spent some time in the area south of Ogongo, absolutely the best riding terrain I have EVER been on. Supposedly there are no rocks in Ovamboland, from what  saw I'd have to agree. Wide open spaces, where we could ride in posed formations:
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When on the move, the formation was much more spread out, and these guys were good - they always did it without having to be told:
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One of the main reasons we loved these wide open spaces was, of course:
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We actually had 14 guys on the back wheel spread out in a line, this was part of it. And yes china, these were balance point wheelies, in 5th gear  :D

Wheelying led, of course, to backflips.  I was at the back of the line one Sunday morning, on the back wheel in 5th gear doing at least 80, and flipped it. I could never figure out why, but I now suspect that the front wheel had stopped spinning and the lack of gyroscopic effect changed the balance point.  Regardless of exactly which law of physics bit me in the arse that day, I went skidding down a concrete-hard dirt road on my back, my shirt bunched up around my neck - I never tucked it in, for ventilation purposes. I still piss myself laughing every time I replay this in my head, which I can do in excruciating detail, including the glass shards  from the flattened speedo tumbling towards me in slow motion. I will never forget that one. When I finally stopped sliding, I sat up, looked around in a daze, took my helmet off, said "fuuuuuuck me..." and next thing I knew I woke up on my back, helmet next to me and not a fucking soul in sight. Those bastards had ridden off without even seeing me go down. I slowly and painfully got up, started the bike and rode off in search of "friendly forces". Just how friendly I found out when, about 5 k's down the road, I found the platoon spread in a circle around a huge tree, bakking ballas and making coffee. I came riding into this circle with seriously bent handlebars, a flattened speedo and the biggest fucking roastie I've ever had - basically my whole back. The whole platoon started rolling on the ground they were laughing so hard, not a fucking ONE asked if I was OK, or what happened - they could tell.  After the hilarity had died down all I wanted to do was sleep - I realize with hindsight I probably had a bloody concussion, but I wasn't going to whinge at any cost :D

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Sleeping on the softest thing around after flipping at 80, I was not a happy chappy in this shot, my back was bloody but I fell asleep anyways. We actually rode in this position whenever we had to cover distance on the tar road, if we'd had throttle locks it would have been like sitting on a sofa.

Every night, before sunset, we'd go through the TB (temporary base - tydelike basis) drill. Stop, spread out, make food and coffee, then, when it was almost completely dark, ride 2 or 3 k's and pick a spot with some cover for the night. The idea was that if swapo was watching you, they wouldn't know where to throw the mortars later that night :D This drill saved many many lives. We often slept in these hollows, in the dry season they provided  perfect cover but once it started raining they all became 2 and 3 metre deep mini-lakes. My bed in left foreground and someone just crawling out of his fart sack in the middle rear:
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Because we never had a full platoon of 3 sections X 10 men plus HQ section, we modified the guard system. Instead of 2 okes from each section on guard at any time, ie 6 in a standard platoon, two guys at a time would position themselves inside the TB in a spot where they had a good field of vision, and sit or stand there with little movement and zero noise. Shifts rotated every two hours, it typically took 2 or so nights for everybody to get his turn in the rotation. In Angola this was taken very seriously indeed.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 09, 2006, 08:45:26 am
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Dinner routine before moving a few k's away for the night. Wood was never a problem, in 2 minutes you could gather enough sticks to cook a can of bully beef or sweetcorn and make some coffee. You simply put the opened can in the fire, just had to be careful not to eat the liner inside the can when it separated from the heat - it would made you shit like a racing chicken.

We came across Kawasaki's MX track bulding crew one day: :D
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Strict anti-mine discipline saved us several times, including one occasion when we beat 50% odds - we had to ride through a bottleneck one afternoon going into a base, where the fences came right up to the tweespoor and forced us to ride on the road. We hated doing that, but this time we had no choice, so we flipped a coin and rode in on the soft and sandy middelmannetjie. Very early the next morning we rode out in the tracks, simply out of habit never to do the same thing twice. A few days later in some base someone walked up and told the loot that after we had left, the sappers swept the road and found a cheesemine in the middelmannetjie. Turns out a swap was on top of a cuca shop close by and watched us ride in -  after that we were even more fanatical about varying our routine.
We especially stayed off the main road where it was unpaved. If we had to go that way, we'd ride alongside the road, weaving between telephone poles, anthills and tree stumps. It was usually a quick way of getting somewhere, but not always:
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The loot and one of the section leaders, fearless pathfinders that they were. As can be expected, much rolling around resulted from this one. They went from 60 to zero in 5 seconds or so. :lol:

Except in the 3 serious injury cases, we were always merciless about someone's misfortune, or more accurately put, show-off or stupid move that resulted in some measure of pain and/or humiliation. Like the oke who tried to pop a wheelie from a standing start, leaving a base called Okalongo one day. In front of at least 200 troops from other units sitting on vehicles ready to move out on some big sweep, he flipped that XR right on its back without moving one inch. It was one of those powder-white surfaces you found in some places, he practically bounced from flat on his back with the bike on top of him right forward onto the wheels again, and jaaged out of the gap in the wall with his tail between his legs. I was sitting there watching him and actually fell off my bike I was laughing so hard.
Aother hilarious day, this 101Bn interpreter was assigned to us for a reason I forget, one of the funniest characters in the platoon by the name of "Brommer" carried him initially but bliksemed down twice in the space of 100m in a sandy tweespoor, so his buddy from the same hometown had to carry the poor oke. We were all laughing our arses off when this was taken, even the 101 oke could see the joke. The next day he never showed up :lol:
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In Angola one day, a section leader clipped a sawn-off treestump with his foot peg in the dust  at 80+. I was last in line as usual and just saw one moer of a dust cloud, bikes bombshelling left and right, and XR 500, section leader, waterbottles, sleeping bag and radio blowing outwards as if from an explosion. After the initial skrik and realising it wasn't a mine, I started laughing at him. Ooooh boy did that piss him off. He was not amused in the least. He had actually taken one hell of a tumble, so I ended up sympathising with him. He stayed the moer in with me for a long time after that, but hey - it was fucking hilarious, what was I supposed to do? Here is the immediate aftermath, he is still gathering his wits with arms folded:
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We got along very well with the locals for the most part, of course they were caught between a rock and a hard place in many cases, we would only confront young men of obvious military age and exaimne them for webbing marks on their shoulders and soft feet, which meant they wore boots regularly.  We gave many young boys rides on the bikes, two okes especially would wheelie up and down with them on the back - always good for a thrill, both for the boy and his watching mates. This was one of the wheeliers, Dave, getting a reciprocal ride from a local boy:
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3951/opsnieuwoudtquu1.jpg)

The big and heavy B25 radio was hated by all, whomever caused shit of some kind usually got to carry it. I never did, but it must have been like riding with panniers. The loot making the daily sitrep, from somewhere in Angola:
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Ovamboland was full of donkeys, pigs, and goats wandering around, they obviously belonged to somebody but were apparently allowed to roam around looking for grazing. After a while I got bored when we'd sit and wait for whatever reason, so I started chasing pigs and donkeys on my bike. Pigs were lots of fun, they could change direction incredibly quickly while squealing as if they were getting their throats cut, which is probably what they thought I was planning to do :lol:  It took quick reflexes and, once I figured out how they usually reacted, some anticipation to catch them. Donkeys were very nafi, it took a lot to get them going, and even then they'd only gallop at a fast idle, lazy bastards.  
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6688/opsdonkeychase2ju1.jpg)

Must go sleep, a few more to come.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: macduff on December 09, 2006, 10:19:51 am
excellent reading  :thumbleft:  :thumbleft:  :thumbleft:
i particularly love your descriptive writing skills...
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it would made you shit like a racing chicken.
 :D  :D  :D
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: brettp on December 09, 2006, 10:22:24 am
These pics bring back only good memories (you never remember the bad times, right?).

I was based at "Bereede" in potch, with the bike boys. We used to swap horses for bike at any oppertunity, and biy did we have loads of belly aching fun!!!!!

Thanks for the post, really had a smile on my dial!!!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: GIDEON on December 09, 2006, 01:37:43 pm
I love it alles is so natuurlik bef@k
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: KiLRoy on December 09, 2006, 01:50:30 pm
This is so lekka reading - the whole environment brings up fond memories - well well well done and moerse thanx

Maybe we must start a ex-army tread???  Lekka pics and stuff

H
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 10, 2006, 02:04:31 am
It's true, one tends to remember only the good parts, even so, I can honestly say that at least 90% of the good days I had in the army were during the year in the bush. The only shit days I remember there were the ones spent in Ogongo, with the idiot captain making life difficult for us. The rest was a jol, even though we probably came close to disaster many more times than we knew.
And we also swapped bikes for horses, I went on a "dawn patrol" around Ogongo one day with our donkey-driving friends. They did that every day, forget what the exact term was. Last time I EVER set foot on a horse. Let's just say I figured out that horses and I don't get along. :D
A few more photos then I have to go work on a bike.
We were in and out of Angola all the time, sometimes spent longer periods across the cutline. It got to the point where we'd be racing through the mopani trees and just see a flash of sand stretching off to the sides as we left "friendly" territory behind. Angola didn't look any different, but I saw for the first time local kraals that were destroyed. It always amazed me that a landscape as simple as some farm fields with a little kraal could be destroyed, but it was. We saw very few people until we'd get further in, the ones we did usually came up and asked for medicine and water, it was pathetic but we couldn't do much for them.
On one long patrol we were hungry and tired of our kak canned food, so we bought a goat and some salt from a local. Several of the guys were farm boys, so it was butchered and on the fire in short order.
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It was almost like being in the Kruger Park with your mates for a while, but when we packed up to comtinue on, the tension returned. We were always on edge in Angola, the deeper we went the more tense it was.  But - like any self-respecting bunch of bikers, we still found time for screwing around. After the rains began the sand was the stuff any dirtbiker dreams of - semi-packed and moist. we laid out MX tracks a few times and raced around till we had just enough petrol to make it back into Ovamboland. I once laid out a figure 8 around twol bushes and just went round and round dragging the footpegs and handlebars in the sand. That's the god's honest truth - you didn't need much speed, you'd just not slow down and lay it over. Unfortunately I had run out of film by then, it was a once in a lifetime experience.

On another trip in Angola, other units were involved too, this time we stayed out for a month. It was far to the west, towards Ruacana. We got so filthy that I used to write orders on my pants legs with twigs.
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The same two who got stuck in the mud along the main road one time.

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Angola got green very quickly after the rains started.

When we came across dams in both Ovambo and Angola, we usually went for a dip to clean up and cool down. In Angola fishing with hand grenades supplemented our miserable rations.
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Surf's up ovambo style

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A local woman came to fetch water while half the platoon was in the dam, nobody got out until she left :D

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One of the last photos I took, ran out of film soon after. This dam in Angola had been breached on one side, it made a perfect "daytona". I wasn't able to ride it - I had flipped pulling a wheelie and stuck out my left hand to break the fall, my wrist instantly swelled up to the point where my hand was a claw, couldn't even bend my fingers.  I rode around in Angola for 2 or 3 days with my left arm in a sling - after a while it was easy, and became one of the most thrilling rides I've ever had. Of course the loot out front never slowed down one bit - still rode as hard as he could, and we kept up.

We'd had another casualty in Ovambo, racing between Ogongo and Okalongo one day going for the time record.  One oke crashed and broke his leg, 2/3 of the platoon went by him less than 30m away and never even saw him despite him firing his R4 into the air.  We found he was missing when we reached Okalongo and raced back, found him under a tree where some locals had carried him. He was another good guy, quiet and dependable and highly regarded by everyone.
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We improved the record between the two bases from around an hour and 15 minutes to 26 minutes though. That shut up the loudmouth Buffel drivers who had challenged us. We did 120+ on the shona and 90 through the trees :D

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On the tar road right outside Mahanene gate, the base was far to the west towards Ruacana and 4 k's from the border. Swapo shot the shit out of it many times with mortars, we lucked out when we were there. The wildest pissup I have EVER been in happened in the officer/NCO pub here. Long story.

Somewhere near Mahanene we stopped for the midday siesta by this old bakkie and found ways to amuse ourselves with the help of some smoke grenades. When this got old we hunted boomslangs, and I found two anthills which became the first double jump I ever did.
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We planned on sending this to Bike SA as the "Official bike squad Roof of Africa entry", but never got around to it.
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As so often happened, things got out of hand, the smoke flooded the bakkie, the two clowns started to choke and had to get out, the windows were the fastest way out. 
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As usual the rest of us were laughing hard by this time.

After the rains started the mopani flies came out - an absolute plague that drove us mad, they crawled into eyes, nose and mouth, any moist spot as soon as we stopped. We tried various methods to keep them away, smoke was the only effective deterrent.
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I am highly amused by the fact that I have a photo of one of tbe three occasions I've ever had a cigarette in my mouth.

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From left, the loot, me, the section leader who got the moer in with me for laughing at him when he crashed (seems he was over it by this time) and a guy called HAPS try different anti-mopani fly techniques. We  kept moving as much as possible, those fucking miggies would drive you insane.

Last one, of a chance meeting between us and one of the horse platoons on a shona one day.
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In a week or so it will be 24 years since I left Ovambo with my platoon, we flew back to Waterkloof in a flossie, all I remember from that is the throng of people inside the terminal after we landed. A huge anticlimax.
I still see and hear with crystal clarity incredible amounts of images,  thinking about one thing will invariably trigger some other memory that makes me laugh out loud or shake my head in disbelief that we sustained so little damage. Just 2 weeks ago I had a dream of us screwing around somewhere, pushing the odds but coming out unscathed :D
We were lucky, and we had a jol - not your average stint in the military, I would say.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: D7 on December 10, 2006, 06:27:47 am
fantastic stuff
brilliant reading
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: JonW on December 10, 2006, 09:58:07 am
Killer report

Great reading

Many thanks.

Jon
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Leo on December 10, 2006, 03:59:29 pm
Thanks for sharing Fakawi.

Excellent report. Sure brings back some happy memories.

..........as the saying goes:"Those were the days".

 :wink:
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: mango on December 10, 2006, 09:43:02 pm
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/994/opswheelyiniu6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

All the pics are amazing, but this one is my favourite  :shock:

Fantastic stuff...thanks
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: funacide on December 10, 2006, 11:34:38 pm
Awesome stuff, thanks for taking all the effort to post this report.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: shark_za on December 11, 2006, 07:44:48 am
When you are in SA again, come present this as a display to my collectors association.
This is some awesome stuff captured on film!
Title: Great!
Post by: SGB on December 11, 2006, 08:16:41 am
What a story!   Those pics are awesome and bring back distant memories of my own addiction to diesel, dust and cordite.  As an Artillery Gunner (who spent a bit of time over and above the 2 yrs nat. service), the question still remains:  Do adults enjoy adultery as much as infants enjoy infantry?..... :D   :twisted:  Thank you for taking the trouble to share this.  :)  :)
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Lito on December 11, 2006, 09:59:53 am
This is a AAA+ report dude.

Bedonnerd lekker


I know those mopani flies. I never had a name for them, but in the Kruger Park on the kaftan line in the army, they would fooking be everywhere all the time, and I thought I was going to go insane - the description if fooking perfect.




 8)  8)  8) !!!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Kev on December 11, 2006, 11:56:23 am
Wow! Respect! :notworthy: Thanks for showing us. Much appreciated!
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Dorje on December 11, 2006, 01:14:38 pm
hey thanks ! :D
amazing pics  :D
amazing report  :D
amazing nostalgia  :D

was in the bats near Otavi around '81 or '82, my memory is not as  good as yours :scratch:

in the middle of this insanity we were sent on a opfok, ripples of rebellion spread through our unit . . . i remeber scenes reminiscent of Apocolypse Now . . . 60 guys spread out over two or more clicks . . .  white sand road shimmering in the heat . . . then some isolated shots, then automatic fire and coloured smoke grenades left and right of the road . . . uncontainable frustration and anger.

myself and a buddy walked into the bush, put up a bivvy and made a fire . . .

to cut a long storry short . . . after unsuccesful attempts by our officers to 'discipline' us . . . night began to fall . . . and in the distance i heard the sound of XR500's . . .you guys rode out and picked most of us up and rode us back to our camp in the Otavi caravan park . . . THANKS AGAIN  :thumbleft:

shows you . . . bikers have the BIGGEST Hearts . . . they know what it means to LIVE
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: shark_za on December 11, 2006, 02:51:49 pm
When I was there last, one of the smaller warehouses was packed with XR500's.   Wall to wall.

I wonder how many are still there.
Tons of other vehicles, thats for sure.

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Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Lootch67 on December 11, 2006, 05:05:20 pm
I grew up on a farm about 40km south of Otavi so these photos really made me homesick. You guys were on our farm once. Don't know why or when. All I remember was looking at the bikes and wondering whether my dad's C90 off-road would be able to keep up. I guess not. Thanks for posting.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 13, 2006, 11:20:43 pm
LITO - did you know a captain Devy when you were in Kruger? He's my bro now in Uganda, was an ex-bike squad troop and loot.
Lootch67 - small world, I can remember most of the farms we went to, the loot from the first platoon I was with was a local, a german guy from Otjiwarongo and he knew many of the farmers, we used to go vist his parents in Otjiwarongo. Where exactly was your farm?
Dorje - when you mentioned the lifts back to camp I had a very faint brainwave, I vaguely recall hearing about the "batlift" but I wasn't part of it, would have been April or May 82. Where you there when the bat captain was killed by a swapo hand grenade?
Cheers
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Dorje on December 14, 2006, 02:25:30 pm
'batlift' - nice  :D

i wasn't in the contact but drove with his body in the ambulance to Grootfontein . . .
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 14, 2006, 09:18:26 pm
Small world. Me and the loot talked to him as he left the HQ around 4 pm, we chatted for a few minutes, I still recall him smiling as he came walkimg up to where we sat on the steps across the street.  So it goes hey.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Lootch67 on December 15, 2006, 11:08:01 pm
Quote from: "Whethefakawe"
Lootch67 - small world, I can remember most of the farms we went to, the loot from the first platoon I was with was a local, a german guy from Otjiwarongo and he knew many of the farmers, we used to go vist his parents in Otjiwarongo. Where exactly was your farm?


"Okaruiput" lat=-20.0602008206, lon=17.1529095543

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The name of the farm is Okaruiput (Herero name which means "log with water") - farm 336 on the maps you would've been using. The turnoff from the main road is about 3km north of Platveld Station and then it's a further 17kms east. There is an amethist mine (not ours) on the farm and the terrs sought refuge there from time to time. That's probably what brought you there. Fortunately they were usually half dead by the time they reached us. I can imagine that you'll get tired running from those b@stards on bikes for days on end :D
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: sidetrack on December 16, 2006, 12:16:36 am
Awesome stuff ! I still say that XR's are the best offroad tough as nails bikes ever.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 22, 2006, 09:33:45 am
Howzit Lootch,
After consulting my "Namibia tourist map" I recognize the white road off the tar road as the one where we laid a big ambush with the Ratels one crack of 3 am - I've got some interesting stories about THAT one believe me. Do you remember the case of oom Dirk and the three cheetahs? From what I see, it looks like your dad's farm may have been the site of one of my misadventures. :D
Cheers
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 22, 2006, 01:19:39 pm
Yes boet
XR's rule, to this day.
 :D Cheers
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: chrisB on December 22, 2006, 09:21:57 pm
Best report I've seen!

Quote
..kopperaal Raubenheiiiimeeeeeer!!!! .......maak die plante nat, dis so droog soos 'n non se twassock!!!!
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Lootch67 on December 23, 2006, 12:30:57 am
Quote from: "Whethefakawe"
Do you remember the case of oom Dirk and the three cheetahs?


It rings a bell, but pray tell!! Dirk de Bott?

Quote from: "Whethefakawe"
From what I see, it looks like your dad's farm may have been the site of one of my misadventures. :D


You didn't moer into the "inspeksie gat" with the bike did you? Oh wait a minute, that was my brother.
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: growweblaar on December 28, 2006, 05:16:16 pm
Quote from: "Whethefakawe"
Yes boet
XR's rule, to this day.
 :D Cheers


Great report, Whethefakawe!

If I'm not mistaken, Armscor made their own 500cc Rotax-powered bike at some stage? Did you guys ever see/use one, or was it always the XR500?
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on May 17, 2007, 02:20:48 pm
Yes, it was called the "Kriek". A 500cc Rotax engined bike with 19 inch wheels fromt and rear. The frame was designed by Ron Wood, who is a leading figure in flat track racing in the US. We took him out in Hillbrow and taught him about africa!!
Cheers
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: KiLRoy on May 17, 2007, 02:37:50 pm
Quote
We took him out in Hillbrow and taught him about africa!!
 

You didn't ... .... .... ....  :shock:  :shock:   - Vlakplaas??/  :shock:  :D

H

Ps Hozit mate? where have you been?
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Oppad on May 17, 2007, 04:00:08 pm
Thanks for bumping this thread to the top again. Missed it completely until now as I was not very active on the forum in December when it was first posted.

Amazing and excellent stuff. Thank you very much
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistol on May 18, 2007, 05:23:37 am
Fakawe,

Great report - also not active in December, so missed it. I was also based at Berede in Potch for my 2 years - 86/87 - so way after you :lol:  But we still had a bike squad, and in particular a bike demo squad, and those guys were also real hooligans - travelling around the country doing displays for the public, and just generally enjoying life for 2 years :lol:

Brettp - when were you there?
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: SMD on May 18, 2007, 04:34:39 pm
Quote from: "Oppad"
Thanks for bumping this thread to the top again. Missed it completely until now as I was not very active on the forum in December when it was first posted.

Amazing and excellent stuff. Thank you very much


DITTO ...
Brings back awsome memories of 85/86 de brug-Luathla-Ruacana-Oshikati etc
Title: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Extreme Velcro on May 19, 2007, 05:51:16 am
The pic of the hotshots going off into the bushes had me in hysterics.  Thanks for starting my day off with a good giggle......
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Freestyler on July 07, 2007, 07:49:51 am
I knew one or two guys who had the same amazing experiences as you and your mates, only they never kept any of the photos, so thanks.
Be great to see more. :D
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: keithk on July 07, 2007, 09:15:03 am
This is an absolutely great thread well done as one has mentioned before this should be transfered into book form with a title like "War on two wheels" or "the two wheeled posse" with all the pics and info this will make for a "good"seller". This has definitely brought back my past . I was one of the troops worst nightmare I was a P T I but I never had the privilege to enjoy the adventure that I have just read. Great Stuff :) :) :)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Trailrider on July 07, 2007, 10:11:26 am
Just read the whole thing again. Simply amazing.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: tok-tokkie on July 07, 2007, 11:19:20 am
This is all new to me as I joined this board after December and missed the army as it was still the ballot system when I was eligible.  A most interesting and well written report, I read it through with rapt fascination.
Only thing I can contribute was my brother-in-law was a prof at Stellenbosch (Industrial Engineering) & he showed me round the place in 71; they had a bike there that they were trying to silence for the army.  He said it was difficult to do.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Raider on July 11, 2007, 09:39:56 pm
Man I enjoyed your report and pic's :)

I have many fond memories of the area.

We were posted from Otavi/SWASPES to places such as Eenhana, Ilundu etc.

Great country!!

Any more pic's of the area?



Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Ektoknbike on July 13, 2007, 04:18:04 pm
These pics bring back only good memories (you never remember the bad times, right?).

I was based at "Bereede" in potch, with the bike boys. We used to swap horses for bike at any oppertunity, and biy did we have loads of belly aching fun!!!!!

Thanks for the post, really had a smile on my dial!!!

Wat jaar? ???
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: KiLRoy on October 16, 2007, 10:46:27 am
Great stuff, I can't wait.  This thread is one of my favourites.  Arguably one of the best documented and photographed stories of SA's bike squad.  Well done WTFAW!!!!

H
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Propeller on October 16, 2007, 10:52:13 am
WTFAW

Do you remember a troep with the name Jacques Rossouw. Does the name rings a bell?

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Dirt Dog on October 16, 2007, 11:44:11 am
Excellent report. Good ole days.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on January 27, 2008, 10:32:45 am
WOW....this stuff is coming out the grave bigtime. I was the one who had a mid-air crash with a guy called Craig Lindique from Durbs. We were practicing for a Demo in Ojiworongo. End of game. Gotta look him up!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Goose on January 27, 2008, 01:24:24 pm
Great rep man. Memories come flooding back.... after 7SAI, I ended up in Tiffies.... had a couple of those XR's that we had to put together again... always wondered who were the lucky okes destroying them....  ;D
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Highlander on January 27, 2008, 02:14:26 pm
I'm not old enough to have any remembrance of the war nor do I know anyone that was involved. I do however have a bit of an interest in this period of time that shape our country. Have read one or 2 books about it.

Don't know why this is the first time I see this, it just made my weekend!!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: wayneh on January 27, 2008, 06:39:33 pm
...2 years of National Defense Force brings back such a mix of emotions. Even today, I have told my guys at work, "Ja it's kak now. But it's like the army - the tough times will define your character. And you'll look back on them with a gritty fondness."

I did my training at Artillary... Just down the road form the Breede, in Potch. We had more than one 'oop f@k' for having a stray shell land a little too close to you guys  ;D

Great report. Awesome pics, man.  :o

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Waghond on January 27, 2008, 11:13:52 pm
Military is not what it used to be. I am so sorry I never got too experience it
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Ballies on January 28, 2008, 09:47:20 am
you should post this in advrider.com!!! It will be a hit!! ;)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on January 28, 2008, 10:04:17 am
Ja...you artillary types had us bikers running around like muppets putting out your fires not to mention one time when the brede ouks forgot about your practice & we had to herd horses off the veld....pronto!  :BLACK2:
Got some crazy memories of that place but will post in future book....
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Mike B on January 28, 2008, 02:01:40 pm
Loved this read, one of the best in a long time especially since it brings out the memories of great camaraderie and mates long since lost in time and travel. The military was one of my most cherished memories. I had a mate that was in the bike squad in '87 Barry Kruger aka Donkey Piel, anyone know him or his whereabouts?

Thanks for picken up this thread
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on January 29, 2008, 12:27:48 pm
Jeez - talk about "back to the future"  :o

I posted this story about a year ago, in response to photos of a Malaysian (or somewhere in Asia) army soldier standing up on a bike, shooting over the handlebars. I laughed my arse off, cause he was on a tar road, for one thing. And believe me, we never even THOUGHT of tryng that in the ovambo sand  :laughing4:  :laughing4:  

Like anybody who spent time in combat units back then, I have many stories and anecdotes, and because we rode the hottest (stock) 4-strokes money could buy in 1982, most of them are f@@king hilarious. Not all bike squad riders were national MX, road racing or trials champs  ;D Those guys stayed in Potch and did their amazing displays at the Rand Show, Durban Tattoo and similar venues. The platoons had about 50-50 experienced dirtbikers and novices and it was a source of much hilarity in the beginning. Later, when everybody became very good, showing off and plain stupidity caused most of the laughs. The two best riders in my platoon were national-level MX racers, one was a top-ten guy.

But I digress. After posting the story, long-forgotten memories and huge amounts of minute detail came flooding back after 25 years, so I wrote it down. It was enough to literally fill a book, so after 6 months of editing it's at a publisher now, in fact at KilRoy's connection John Dovey in Durbs.

We'll see how that goes, I have never told most of the stories before, and out of the 170 or so photos I took in 1982 maybe a dozen or so had been seen by a few bike-related friends before I posted them a year ago. 

My bro Patrick in Uganda spent a total of almost 8 years in bike squad, starting as a rifleman in platoon 6 and ending up as a captain and OC. Combined with my 3 years it covers probably 2/3's of the unit's existence. Between us we knew most of the important personalities
and I have been in contact with several members here who were either in BS or knew people who were. Through other contacts I have made some amazing connections over the last 3 months. All I can say is, it's a small world.

I decided to take a (permanent) sabbatical from the corporation, they just don't know it yet  ;D  to research and write the history of bike squad. The plan is to be done by end of 2008. I am leaving here (Arizona) tomorrow, stopping in Brisbane to see my bro John, who was in my old Inf School platoon and went to bike squad with me in Jan 81. Arriving SA around Saturday, have several meetings set up and then on to Uganda. I expect to be in SA (and U) permanently after March. My 950 and XR 650 too  :evil6:

SO - If anybody who reads this spent any time in the spes units (berede, SWASPES etc) please contact me, I will set up a hotmail address but for now through WD.  Depending on how the bike project goes, I may end up researching the horse side of the equation as well, ie, the berede platoons, or "Ops Wing" as it was officially known. My ex-berede friend who works in Hong Kong suggested that yesterday.

The idea spawned around the fire in Uganda that night has gathered a lot of momentum, and I'm very excited about the project. Except for when I'm out riding, I've been bored lately so this will cure THAT condition ;D
  

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: SuperJuice on January 29, 2008, 12:53:58 pm
Whethefakawe,

Some useless but coincidental information for you.

My old man worked at Midmacor in the early 80's, the then Honda agents for SA.

One of the reps there, Fred Pretorius, was the guy that sold those XR's to the Army. He was in with the Generals of the time and the stories he used to tell us of the 'entertainment' these guys demanded was incredible, lots and lots of 'schmoozing'.

Interestingly, the orders were by the hundreds and continued for many years. They (Fred and my old man) even flew over to Japan to find out from Honda whether the bikes could be painted in the army green shown in your pics. The Honda execs refused and the bikes had to painted here in SA before being delivered to the Army.

I used to go to Midmacor and marvel at the HUNDREDS of XR's sitting there waiting to be painted and delivered.

I showed my old man your post and it's great to see where those bikes went and how and by who they were used.

Thanks for this it brought back many memories for me and for my old man.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on January 29, 2008, 01:01:16 pm
Anybody remember the training bikes at Potch. We had those Honda pig-of-a-bike XL350's. If by itself not heavy enough they had skid plates & heavy duty crash bars & handle bar protectors. Eish. Also the Susuki SP370.....now that bony could wheelie!!
After that course one could throw those thing around no problem!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Thumpernut on January 29, 2008, 01:45:31 pm
I took about 1000 slides of the '83-'84 Bike Squad, including training and over a year on the border. We trained on XRs and Suzuki DR350s, and rode XR500RCs (first model with ProLink suspension). My platoon was split up into three sections posted at Ruacana, Ogongo and Okatope (also known as PoesPlaas).

Every time I read this story the idea crosses my mind to write the story up, but I'm still grappling with what angle to tackle it from. In hindsight, the whole concept of National Service is so screwed up that I wouldn't want to glorify the stupid free trip to lie under the palm trees.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on January 29, 2008, 02:11:52 pm
Maybe we should all get it down on paper then send off to Yuri & he can make recommendations. Maybe slide the angle before the writeup?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Mungo Park 2 on January 29, 2008, 02:57:06 pm
I think your positive and engaging posting may give some consolation to those who suffered losses. Great documentary stuff - please shout the title of your book loudly once it's available!
Thanks for making the time to scan and to share!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Mike B on January 30, 2008, 08:50:51 am
I had a little to do with the biker boys, worked in SWA for a long time, give us that hotmail addy, maybe a hookup is in order, then we can really talk shit and stumble down amnesia lane with intent, also with a dop in the hand  ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: BigEd on January 30, 2008, 10:35:48 pm
Whethefakawe, I'll buy your book. Put me down somma now...
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: GSing on January 30, 2008, 11:01:35 pm
Whethefakawe, I'll buy your book. Put me down somma now...
Me too!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on February 01, 2008, 08:12:15 am
Whethefakawe,

Some useless but coincidental information for you.

My old man worked at Midmacor in the early 80's, the then Honda agents for SA.

One of the reps there, Fred Pretorius, was the guy that sold those XR's to the Army. He was in with the Generals of the time and the stories he used to tell us of the 'entertainment' these guys demanded was incredible, lots and lots of 'schmoozing'.

Interestingly, the orders were by the hundreds and continued for many years. They (Fred and my old man) even flew over to Japan to find out from Honda whether the bikes could be painted in the army green shown in your pics. The Honda execs refused and the bikes had to painted here in SA before being delivered to the Army.

I used to go to Midmacor and marvel at the HUNDREDS of XR's sitting there waiting to be painted and delivered.

I showed my old man your post and it's great to see where those bikes went and how and by who they were used.

Thanks for this it brought back many memories for me and for my old man.

 :o :o

Jissis China, that's anything BUT useless trivia!!!

Superjuice, I reeeeallly want to talk to you and your dad. I met with an oke named Ron Wood a month ago who designed the "Kriek", a custom bike he built to compete for the army bike contract in 1983. He mentioned that Honda won because of some general who had a finger in the pie with Midmacor, didn't know who it was. He is still a bit miffed about it, basically all he got out of it was a SA vacation. A really nice oke. My bro  Patrick confirmed the "generals" bit, but he doesn't know names either.

The plot thickens........

Did your dad know Jimmy McDaniels? He was one of the MMWC's at Midmacor, his son Craig was in BS in 1983. Craig scored me a Honda CR480 fuel tank when somebody stole the one off my loot friend Herbert's bike that I raced for a while. A sarcastic, funny oke Craig was.

The title for my own kakpraat stories will be decided soon, however I plan on naming the factual history simply "Bike Squad". The format will be, as stated, a historically and factually accurate account, with probably a section of "stories", peoples' personal angles, which are mostly funny, judging by my own. 

Thumpernut, if you were there in 83 and 84 we crossed paths, I was the workshop manager in 83 and spent some time with platoons 13 and 14. I would appreciate your input, too.

Small world, did I mention that? ;D
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Thumpernut on February 01, 2008, 06:09:29 pm
Does this bring back memories? I recall it's after a day of riding training at "Saddleback" (the MX track where Bike Squad used to go for laughs):
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3531/bikesquad005dz8.jpg)

I recall we also had those useless Sukuki DR400s for road training. They handled like pigs, but at least they got the whole platoon to the roadhouse at Potch once or twice:
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4673/bikesquad002tf2.jpg)

We even rode them in the bush - I think the place was called BlouBos?? No match for an XR500RC like we had on the border (that was to prove itself as one helluva tough bike):
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4534/bikesquad006jx2.jpg)

During our training we used XR500RBs which were great bikes. I still think the XR was a better bike than the Kriek, although the Kriek had some clever features like interchangeable front and rear wheels.
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1337/bikesquad003hc3.jpg)

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Thumpernut on February 01, 2008, 07:08:36 pm
Once we ('83-'84 Bike Squad) got to the border in late '83, we had XR500RCs painted the Army "shakhi" colour (a mixture of shit and khaki). Our helmets were still white and we had stupid glass goggles which we soon replaced with Smith plastic MX goggles that our families would post up to us. That made a heck of a difference. We later painted the helmets shaki too. The shaki paint kept coming off the bikes' plastics so it was really difficult to keep them semi-camouflaged.

We bought a lot of our own kit to make riding easier, and later even bought our own spares to keep the bikes running so as to avoid having to become foot-slogging infantry if our bikes packed up. There's a fascinating story in itself about the tricks we employed to deal with stretched timing chains, and worn chains and sprockets.

The platoon was split into three sections stationed at Okatope, Ogongo and Ruacana.

This pic is taken at the Ruacana Dam hydro-electric scheme around end '83, perhaps early '84. The bike squad section from Ogongo had ridden up past Ombalantu and Mahenene, to Ruacana, and met up with the Ruacana section, who took the Ogongo guys for a tour of the dam. We all rode down the huge tunnel inside the dam wall, to the turbine and generator hall of the hydro-electric plant. On the way back out there was much wheelieing up the tunnel back to daylight. There was a massive sliding door protecting the entrance to the tunnel, and mortarists from 3SAI stationed on top of the dam wall to protect the dam from attack.
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3655/bikesquad007kn7.jpg)

The '83-'84 Bike Squad section based at Ruacana worked mainly in hilly terrain, protecting the SWAWEK (South West Africa Water and Electricity Corporation) powerlines that ran from Ruacana Dam southwards through the Kaokoveld.

In contrast with this, the section based at Ogongo patrolled the flat "shonas" which were like shallow lakes that extended for kilometers at times.
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8358/bikesquad009fz5.jpg)

Around Dec - Mar there was always more rain on the way. Here another shona can be seen behind the "Noddy Car" (Eland armoured car).
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9227/bikesquad008fu1.jpg)

One got used to wet boots and soggy feet. Periodically, someone would disappear into a canal or a hole and the bike would drown. Somehow those XRs just kept on going, month after month, after draining the water and changing the oil. Heck, ask anyone in Bike Squad and they'll have huge respect for those bikes, considering what they went through.

Sometimes (rarely) we had to dump the bikes for a few days and head out on a "mynjag" (mine hunt) in Buffels. Here we are stuck and trying to pull a Buffel out the mud. I think the Buffel patrols just made us appreciate the freedom our bikes gave us when we got back to riding patrol. Nobody really bugged Bike Squad so we could come and go as we pleased, to some extent.
(http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/76/bikesquadvt8.jpg)

I haven't looked at some of these photos in over 20 years. And I have 1000 more showing us being a lot more mischievous and having some great riding fun. The downside was that one could always ride into a trip wire or hit a land mine or fall really hard.

The good side - great memories of a contentious time in history, and the ability to wheelie for 20km today!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: BigEd on February 02, 2008, 01:44:17 pm
Thanks Thumpernut and of course, Whethefakawe, for this insightful glance of a era gone by.

I only made it to the army in 1989, thus missed all the going-ons. In fact midway through my first year we started pulling back from Grootfontein. We, the SP Gaurds, had to do the final handover parade in Windhoek, but the night before we flew up we got a det to stay for safety. One poor little section leader had to go alone and was hit by a stone marching off the parade ground and knocked out. Poor sod. We disbanded 4 months later - the end to another era.

Sorry for being younger than you okes...
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Scrat on February 02, 2008, 06:59:44 pm
Great report guys!!

I missed that era - nog nat agter di ore gewees!! but my ouboet told me some great stories about the same time you okes were there!

I always loved the XR's and in 2006 managed to get my hands on 2 XR500RE's (twin carb model)  still had the brown army paint on the carbs and smaller parts. What great bikes they were!! i redid the motors and me and a mate did the 2006 Desert run with them - funny to see all these WR/CR/KLX and so on new bikes fail and the calssic thumpers just carried on - kanni-dood bikes!!

my boet still stays up in Katima Malilo and has one of those XR500R's still half brown/ half red!! still going strong!!



Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on February 17, 2008, 10:20:23 pm
Geez - I was looking for the post, couldn't find it thought they dumped it cause I said f*** once too often!
Glad to entertain anybody with kakpraat.

Thumpernut, those are some astounding photos! Were you the official photographer or something?

I finally made it to SA, had a hell of a time getting on a flight to the southern hemisphere for some reason. I'll PM a few of yer, hopefully we can hook up.

Thanks again for the kind replies.
Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Iron Shark on February 17, 2008, 11:24:38 pm
What a great read, you are a master at this topic!!!

Thanks again for all the great memories, I was in the Pantzer unit (School of Armour) then the tour around the country etc. thus spent much time in the dust too...  ;D ;D :)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 24, 2008, 01:26:02 am
Brilliant thread...please update from time to time with tasters of your book to come.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Tengai on March 26, 2008, 10:37:39 am
What a great read. Thanks

Iron Shark, what year were you at the school of armour? I was there in 82/83. Did the officers thing and shipped out to Angola thereafter. What a time.........

Let us know when the book is ready, I will get one for sure 8) 8)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Iron Shark on March 28, 2008, 01:35:13 pm
What a great read. Thanks

Iron Shark, what year were you at the school of armour? I was there in 82/83. Did the officers thing and shipped out to Angola thereafter. What a time.........

Let us know when the book is ready, I will get one for sure 8) 8)

No Tengai, I only got there in 89, bit late for most of the action. But you know the tankers, spent PLENTY time in the bush!!!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Naartjie on March 28, 2008, 05:07:39 pm
Man , this was a great read!!!!!!!!

I remember the SADF having a motocross team in the early 80's.... They always used an army tent in the pits!!!!!

If I recall correctly, David van der Merwe was one of the guys that raced for the team while doing national service.
And Peter Hills as well.....

Also had a good friend (Guy Ladeira) who raced with me that served in the demonstration bike squad in '82 and '83.... Needless to say he was the clown!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on March 28, 2008, 08:24:54 pm
Man , this was a great read!!!!!!!!

I remember the SADF having a motocross team in the early 80's.... They always used an army tent in the pits!!!!!

If I recall correctly, David van der Merwe was one of the guys that raced for the team while doing national service.
And Peter Hills as well.....

Also had a good friend (Guy Ladeira) who raced with me that served in the demonstration bike squad in '82 and '83.... Needless to say he was the clown!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Howzit Naartjie,

Yes I knew all those okes, I don't remember an official MX team, but I was in Potch with Peter Hills who raced 125's, David vd Merwe who raced 500's for Butch Hirsch KTM, Shane Thomas who raced 500 Enduro, Deon Roux, 125's, Patrick O'keefe 125's, Gavin Murphy 125's, Kenny vd Merwe, and also old Guy Ladeira. Guy was a funny oke, he raced a 125 Cagiva at the time. I used to see all of them at the races, of course they were experts, I was NOT!.  O0   I was just wondering recently where Guy is,  do you still have contact with him?

The manuscript for the kakpraat stories is ready and at the publisher, just working on the photos and layout etc.

The full-on history project is on simmer at the moment, I just got back from SA and Uganda and am working overtime to make up the lost tom and trying to sell/give away/burn all my stuff so I can leave here.

I'll say it again, if anybody knows someone who was in bike squad or had interaction with same back then, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!

Thanks
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: RobC on March 30, 2008, 09:49:30 pm
Great story WTF... 1978 (I think) was when I had contact with the Bike Squad, July/August as I recall, there was a huge sweep all the way down to Otavi in pursuit of Terrs... This was during our refresher at Oshivello. I was amazed at how many bikes were at the disposal of the squad, they had a whole maguires loaded with bikes and spares as I recall. We were 3 month Regt Dan Pienaar Campers and after this we deployed to Okattope, what an anticlimax that was compared to running around the farm area.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Beserker on May 30, 2008, 06:38:55 am
Posting this on behalf of the guy I ride with, he does not have a PC but I mentioned this report knowing he was in the Berede, he has hundreds of photos and is a great story teller. He was in the Berede 79 to 80..If you need to contact him, PM me, he knows a lot of the history and mostl of the funnies that went down.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: KiLRoy on May 30, 2008, 09:44:12 am
Ask him to post - or post on his behalf - plse........
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Goose on May 30, 2008, 06:56:45 pm
Ask him to post - or post on his behalf - plse........

+100
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Beserker on June 02, 2008, 06:44:06 am
We're going up to Namibia in July, will but a report together, have the stuff scanned in and post...
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Wolweseun on June 02, 2008, 08:45:43 pm
What a great posting
it is very seldom i get to see so many photos I was in Armoured corps 82-83 and we were always searched for cameras etc.
I also never knew Ford made so many F100 Bakkies as what I saw up there, we would take the bonnet off an old one and tie it with a cable behind the buffel and ski until the bonnet skin wore through.
I also scored a whole lot of XR spares from one of the Tiffies from Oshakati to take home for my bike.
I was also very envious of the bike squad guys and the only time I ever saw them not wheelying was when they were in base camps.
Very nice post and will definitely consider purchasing your book
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Mark Hardy on June 02, 2008, 10:10:01 pm
It's been a while since I sat down to read a thread and never got up the get another beer. Thanks for the report and pics and menories. I did my basic training at Potch 3 SAI, then Nambia
IN 84/85. Never meet any of the BS guys, but your pics and stories just brings back really good memories.

Thanks
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Malcolm on July 04, 2008, 03:09:10 pm
So is this book out yet?  anyone know?  It is definitely something i want a copy of.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on July 13, 2008, 09:38:02 am
At the publisher, should be done soon. Second volume, the factual history of bike squad, is in progress. I was hoping to be done by end 2008 but the best laid plans of men and mice......

Currently living out of two panniers and a tank bag, a bit off the grid!

Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: KiLRoy on July 14, 2008, 10:00:11 am
Great stuff - shout if you want forum support ito advertising

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Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Maverick on August 03, 2008, 07:49:04 pm
Thanks for a brilliant Sunday evening's reading. Great report and awesome pics  :deal: It certainly belongs with the best of the best ride reports I have read over the years  8)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Copernicus on August 19, 2008, 02:28:30 pm
Thank you for this WTFAW.  It is true that this part of our history is stooped in political controversy but I guess we did not make the policy, we were the cannon fodder and often managed to make the best of the situation.

I calculated the other day that I spent almost 4 years in the military, two continuious and the rest doing camps at various times.  Although it was in the infantry (5 SAI and 1SAI, 1979/80), it was not all bad, some camps were more like holidays but is still messed with my life though.  I spent a lot of time in Ovamboland and always appreciated the fact that they forced you to quietly watch the sun set and rise during klaarstaan.  I wonder if they realise what a favour they did us?

My brother-in-law was also in spesmagte in the late seventies, early eighties.  I think he started out as berede and later joined the spoorsnyers.  He later got a job in the Kruger National Park as a tracker to battle against poachers.  Anyway, his name was Douw Swanepoel (with a red beard) and I think he left as a sergeant.  He recently passed away after a struggle with cancer.

I guess he cannot contribute to the knowledge you require here but some of you guys may have known him.

WTFAW, this is a great post and the fact that you are publishing a book makes it even better, especially since you were part of it and it is not merely an academic recount of history.  Every success with this.

Kind regards,

Leon
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: YNOTINSA on August 19, 2008, 02:42:30 pm
Brilliant pics love to see more.
I have a few pics from those days too.
I was in the bike squad in 83-84 in okatope
We had a section in Ruacana and Rundu and my section in Okatope
Also part of 1 SWASPES with home base in Tsumeb.
Spent 14 months doing exacly what you showed in your pics.
I will have to scan some and post some on the site.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Thumpernut on August 20, 2008, 08:28:14 am
Hey YNOTINSA,

The memory gets fuzzy after 25 years!  The 83-84 bike squad had sections in Okatope, Ogongo and Ruacana (not Rundu). Your section at Okatope (affectionately known as PoesPlaas) certainly drew the short straw being posted to that nutcase Yati. Incidentally, the stories on the 'Net about how he got his nickname are apparently grossly inflated - but I'd be curious if you could fill us in since you must have got to know him well. I'm sure Uikerman was there too at some stage - he's a pilot for Cathy Pacific now I hear.

Do you recognise any of the guys in the photos I posted on the previous page? They're all 83-84 guys - platoon 13 as Whethefakawe recently reminded me. Send me a PM with your contact details and it's likely I have a photo of you.

Regards
ThumperNut
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on August 20, 2008, 11:52:30 am
Howzit Platbrak,

Sorry to hear about Douw. Was he called sergeant Rooibaard by any chance? My buddy Patrick worked with someone by that name a lot in 1980 and 81.

Cheers

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Copernicus on August 20, 2008, 02:33:17 pm
Hi WTFAW,

Yes, I think it was him.  At some point they moved the trackers to Eastern Transvaal (Graskop or Sabie) but I think this was closer to the middle of the eighties.  He was definitely in Potch.  One of my school mates was there too but he is serving time for manslaughter (or perhaps murder - I am not sure).  Dragged somebody behind his bakkie on the farm.  I will refrain from mentioning his name but I guess it takes all types to make this world.

I think your thread/post has the potential to start an avalanche.  Although we were not all so lucky to do the two wheel thing in the SAW, there should be many dawgs that did service with many stories to tell under other headings. With fifty approaching my sense of adventure is more or less limited to spooning ordinary coffee in with the decaf so I often think back to the days of free food, clothes and lodging...and exiting hardware to play with.

Every success with your book.  I will surely buy a copy.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Copernicus on August 20, 2008, 02:36:21 pm
And by the way, if you ever pass through Nairobi to or from Uganda, please drop me a PM.  It would be nice to meet you.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on August 21, 2008, 10:17:00 am
That's too bad - my buddy had a lot of respect for Rooibaard, he wrote me his account of the day the section leader hit a cheesemine on his bike and he mentions Rooibaard several times. They thought the world of him.

Patrick actually spent a year or two in Kruger on horses doing the anti-poaching thing. around 86 to 88, I'll have to let him know that Douw was there too.

I'll make a point of contacting you next time I go to Uganda, probably very soon.

Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: SuperJuice on August 21, 2008, 11:08:43 am
WTFAW,

Let me know if you still need some info from Midmacor's side. I could probably get hold of Fred for you and I'm sure my old man can help you out too.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on August 25, 2008, 01:05:21 pm
Thanks SJ I definitely will, I'm in the transition phase at the moment, will shortly devote much more time to the project.
Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Big E on October 03, 2008, 12:16:45 pm
Great stuff
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Hoofseun on October 03, 2008, 12:47:25 pm
Very good report and overview!  Big Ed refered me here, thanxs bud.  As I said on the previous thread about the RE rebuild, it brings about good memories.

Did my bit in 84/85 in the BS, first Berede at Potch, then 1 SWA SPES at Otavi and the full next year at Okatopi Base 53 Bn.

Will collect some photos that I may still have and start some feedback as soon as the photos are scanned in.  As you may remember we did not have digital cameras in those days only the 124 stuff so scanning is the in thing.

"Yati" was our feared and respected leader at the base for those that can remember him.

ta

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: mrg46 on October 07, 2008, 05:26:54 pm
Just finished reading this thread - really epic, and so good that you're saving a bit of history that would be a lot fuzzier if someone didn't take their finger out and do the work.

cheers!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Kanadoos on November 27, 2008, 10:07:56 pm
Just finished reading this thread - really epic, and so good that you're saving a bit of history that would be a lot fuzzier if someone didn't take their finger out and do the work.

cheers!

Hey Mark, so glad you pointed me to this forum. Really great reading here. I loved the BS (bike squad) stories, no idea we even had them.  :ricky:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: steveindar on March 17, 2009, 02:13:24 pm
And by the way, if you ever pass through Nairobi to or from Uganda, please drop me a PM.  It would be nice to meet you.

Just read this amazing post.

Likewise if you pass through Dar es Salaam, pop in for a few chilly ones.
Amazingly, when I first moved up here I brought an ex army xr500 with me, still decked out in most of it's original khaki paint. I eventually managed to remove most of it from the plastics, but that stuff stuck like shit to the engine. I sold the bike since, but it is still here and temporarily down for rebuild.

I served in the Rhodesian army, and often ran across the bike squad there operating on XT250's. Picked one lad up who'd dropped a wheelie on the tar road between Kariba and Makuti, didn't have much skin left on his back. We fed him a bottle of vodka we had been saving for a camp bash. Made him a little more cheerful.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: ktmmer on March 17, 2009, 04:26:13 pm
Brilliant all the best with the book.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: captain redheart on March 19, 2009, 09:19:14 pm
Chees...! This really brings back memories! It all feels like yesterday and it's already 25 years ago. I remember watching you guys with envy once up God knows were someshere in 1 zero - cheese I was so envious. Infantry-get where you need to be-in your own two boots-avante antie-graspol in die hol en daar gat jy-crap. Great reporting!!!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Hupie on March 20, 2009, 11:31:43 am
[Around May we fetched 60 or 70 brand-new XR's from a transport depot in Grootfontein. My bike had 0.5 km on the clock. As I recall, the highest mileage on any one of them was 4 km.]

Hi whethefakawe

Was this around 1983/84 ?  I was doing time at Grootfontein from July 83 till end of 84 at Movements on the old section of the air base (old control tower, painted in Nissan red, white & blue colours) as a loadmaster.  I remember unloading a flossie freighter (or was that 2) from the 'states' containing about 50+ brand new XR500R's, destined for the bush.  It looked almost as though they had been parked in a line and literally sprayed brown completely, everything was brown, exept the tires, lights and seats!
Some already had thick layers of paint chipping off the plastics in large chunks, from bending of the mudguards and bumping around during loading and offloading of the plane, revealing the brand new red plastic underneath.  A few of us were bikers and litterally drooled over the prospect of riding these things through the bush.....what a blast!  It made me long for my KE175 waiting for me at home in Cape Town.

A few months later we received consolation in the form of a Yammie IT495 2-stroke, which was posted to Grootfontein.  According to the paperwork, it was some officer dude's private bike.  It stood in our freight yard for months and no one ever came to collect it??!!  On weekends we used to siphon fuel from our army issue 'garry' (land rover), 2-stroke oil came from our 'connection' at the military stores and we'd 'steal' the IT for regular spins on the dirt roads around the airfield and messed about on it in the 'as gat' (afrikaans for rubbish dumps).  We even did a few hi-speed drag runs down the runway on weekends with runway clearance from our buddies at the ops room.  What a beast!  I can remember hagging on for dear life when opening the throttle on that monster!  Wouldn't mind having one of those as my toy today.  They don't build them like that anymore........mean, f@%king mean is all I can say!

Thanks for that post, it brought back some good memories of those days.  Those XR's were great bikes too, pity they don't build those anymore.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pongo on April 25, 2009, 03:59:12 pm
Hi WTF, only read your story now – absolutely brilliant! I was not with the Bike squad but it brought back a lot of good old memories. I’ve been in Charlie Kompanie in ’80 in Faffaskool, had Killer (HG F@kken Smit) as KSM, remember Asterix as well.

Should you still be looking for material or people that were involved, the SABOV website might be a good medium for just that: http://www.sabwv.co.za/

Thanks for a great read.
Pongo
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Bakkie on April 25, 2009, 05:27:55 pm
this is flippen amazing.... thanks for sharing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: dust rat on May 03, 2009, 11:03:58 pm
Howsit WTFAW
I was based at vrp Grooties,those bikes didnt have 4km on we used to disconect the speedos and ride the k%^&k
out of them,it was a little after your time 84 intake but im sure the okes before us done the same thing
So I spose we rode them in for you guys ,great memories  >:D

cheers DR
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on May 08, 2009, 08:20:00 pm
Thanks for the input guys.

We picked up the new XR's in May 82 - the C and D models,I believe - only thing that changed from 81 to 82 was the front fender, the 82's stuck up higher.

Ja wouldn't surprise me if they'd been ridden before we got them, although to the best of my memory the batch we got were spotless - the tyres still had sharp edges etc. One thing I DO know, is that rifleman Seb Barnard of platoon 11 had the honour of the first crash, leaving the gate. And he did that afer 0,3 k's, I remember my buddy JB who was the platoon sergeant of PL 11 then kakking him out! Poor Seb is dead now,car accident JB tells me.

The 83/84 bikes were for platoons 13 and 14, I am in touch with several of those okes. They were still C and D models,I'm not sure when the  model with the twin carbs,disc brake etc came into use. One more thing to dig up. 

Steve in Dar, I'll make a note thanks, still have my KTM 950in Greece that must come to SA somehow. I'd love to ride through Tanzania, nice country.

Pongo, so you were charlie, eh? Remember ... hak-hak,Charlie is kak......? ha ha some inter-company jealousy competition. .Was Killer Smith your CSM? I vaguely rememer that, but I've forgotten much of that year. I do remember that sgt-maj Steenkamp from HQ coy though. I was Alpha, Asterix was our CSM, hilarious man. My boet was in Charlie in 1982,by that time all the personnel had changed of course.

The kakpraat stories book is being printed as we speak, I'm busy with research for the History - big job, getting documents etc from the SANDF archives, lengthy process and mountains of paper to wade through.

Thanks for the input - every bit of info helps.

Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Big E on May 08, 2009, 09:51:23 pm
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Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: charlw on May 11, 2009, 01:18:50 pm
Great read - any date yet for the release of the book?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on May 18, 2009, 05:27:41 pm
No,but should be soon, the FINAL final edit went to John the publisher two weeks ago, he has the layout done already. It will be a low-key affair, on John's website www.justdone.co.za we'll see after that, Kilroy offered to help too will take him up on that.  I'll put a note on here when it's done.
Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Big E on May 18, 2009, 07:26:02 pm
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Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Polo on May 30, 2009, 12:16:24 pm
Great report...i't brings back lots of memories...I don't know if this is any help,but i do know of a guy who was part of the bike squad named George Jayes...total mal oke..lots of stories etc.I don't know where he is at the moment but i will find out and let you know...
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on June 22, 2009, 11:10:48 pm
Hi from kazakhstan
Patrick Devy was my loot in 83 Bike Squad. I left Plt 13 after bike riding and
maitance course for Infantry school still got the t shirt "SWAPO IS OUR TRACTION"
Working in Kaz on construction got a Russian wife and child you think us SA booitjies can party no match for the locals.
Thanks for all the photo`s  lots of memories " Mosieta -Okatopi and the Elgro hotel
cheers
Fakawidan
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistol on June 23, 2009, 08:36:23 am
Hi from kazakhstan
Patrick Devy was my loot in 83 Bike Squad. I left Plt 13 after bike riding and
maitance course for Infantry school still got the t shirt "SWAPO IS OUR TRACTION"
Working in Kaz on construction got a Russian wife and child you think us SA booitjies can party no match for the locals.
Thanks for all the photo`s  lots of memories " Mosieta -Okatopi and the Elgro hotel
cheers
Fakawidan


Oooooo windsurfing(langarm) in the Elgro hotel :-[ me too
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Animaal on June 24, 2009, 12:04:45 am
I was pointed this thread by a mate only now. See it's been running some time.

I too was in the Bike Squad. SWA Spes. July 1984 to July 1985. I completed JL's in SWATF in Okahandja.

I was fortunately at the receiving end of some of the 1984 Honda XR500RE's (front disk brakes and dry sump), brand new, roughly ~50-60 of them when we started. BRAND spanking new, but all sprayed Army brown. After few weeks my bike was almost back to Honda red.

I have lods of photos and will post them when I get back from my business trip and have had  a chance to scan them.

I was in charge of training about 50-60 SWATF local troops, all but one had actually ridden a bicycle  before. Was a real challenge to train these guys,  but after lots of training, most were proficient on the XR50RE's....

We did some border trips from SWA Spes / Otavi.

I met a couple of the guys from Okitoppi bike sqaud (SADF guys) when they were stationed with us for a month or two before they klaared out.

Was keen to know what happened to Aubrey Cavanaugh (~Dec 1984)... anyone know ?

I will post some of the photos... Gimme a few days.

We had an absolute jol riding for more than 12 months day in and out... I remember being able to Wheelie like a deamon. Geez, those were the young and reckless days.

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Thumpernut on June 24, 2009, 08:40:58 am
still got the t shirt "SWAPO IS OUR TRACTION"

Hey Le Roux - upload a pic of that T-shirt.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on June 24, 2009, 03:43:20 pm
Yes I've got Aubrey k's number, also Tony's - he has been very helpful too.

Fakawidan and animaal,  please pm me some time if you don't mind?  I have a few questions. 

here's the t-shirt



(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8994/swapotraction.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/swapotraction.jpg/)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on June 24, 2009, 07:58:49 pm
any body remember "plakkies van Rensberg" he had some problem with his feet got a medical letter to wear sanddels dont now wat he and the sister some woman major we doing.
I just remember the OC of the motorcycle wing or(Vleul) was Major J Strobel
but he left to go and work for BMW.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on June 24, 2009, 08:34:32 pm
Seen and reading all these story's and foto's bring back memories just had a back flash the palatoon sargent was Icks Ukerman he also left and went to work for Safair met him again on Ondangwa he was the Loadmaster on the Flossie back to the states.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Rbacknz on June 25, 2009, 05:35:16 am
Hi Guys. Great photos Yuri . has brought back many good memories. If my memory serves me correctly ,I think I was one of the trouble makers in your platoon.  :laughing4:
Was good fun. I had my Bike Squad t-shirt stolen . It was one of the black ones with the  "HELL ON WHEELS" emblem. I still have the orange 'BEREDE' t-shirt.  Problem is that it doesn't fit me anymore.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on June 25, 2009, 09:06:30 pm
Start to remember more . There was one more BS instructor cant remember his name he left aswell to the USA and become a com diver to work on Rigs.
83 BS Plt was also para jump qualifield as Lt P.Devy first put us threw PT cource and the we went to "jumpschool" civvie at Klerksdorp every wednesday for "sports parade" afk@k we did but there was good times aswell
Title: Groetfontein 16 VRP
Post by: gobby on June 26, 2009, 05:19:14 am
Hi Guys,

Just found this thread, and boy did it bring back memories.
I was in Groetfontein 86 to 88, and we had a shed full of brand new XR500's, used to take them for "onderhouds route" or maintenance rides - just an excuse to get them out, and take them for a blast.

They all had a 5 ltr header tank, and still had their original tool kits.

Recall getting an "oop vok", for doing dounuts once.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on June 26, 2009, 08:07:20 pm
Start to remember more . There was one more BS instructor cant remember his name he left aswell to the USA and become a com diver to work on Rigs.


He he that was me, long sad story since :biggrin:

Captain Stroebel left in 1983, went to BMW but he has been dead for several years, I'm talking to his mom and brother to get whatever they have left of his stuff too.

The plot thickens......
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on June 26, 2009, 08:29:02 pm
So you were also ryding the sandmaster on the parade ground the RSM had a fit!!
If i am not mistake you went to test uther offroads 3wheelers and a quad near Upington to evaluate for us in the sadf
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on June 26, 2009, 10:03:52 pm
talking about the header tank wat the okes did is to gut the top off and put the B25 radio in
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: steveindar on June 27, 2009, 06:35:29 pm

Steve in Dar, I'll make a note thanks, still have my KTM 950in Greece that must come to SA somehow. I'd love to ride through Tanzania, nice country.

You're welcome

Steve
Tanzania
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on July 19, 2009, 03:58:27 pm
Hozit all
There were two tragic insidents during my time in berede 83 to 87

1.One bike squad demo team member was bitten by a "meercat" on sunday
morning and taken to hosp but was released next day about 3 day's after he past away the "meercat" had rabies.

2.We had to stand guard at the ammo dump near north west command when the truck samil 100  driver cold not make his turn and stop to reverse
one troop jump of to pick up stones to trow at sign boards. He slipped and fell
under the back wheels and was run over.He died on the spot.

Does anybody remember these insidents

Cheers

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistol on July 20, 2009, 10:51:46 am
Another one in 87 I think was with the bike demo squad at a show, when one of the guys fell "asleep" under a samil late one night, and did not wake up when it was started, and they rode over him - Think the surname was Stubbs?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Wildthing on September 18, 2009, 10:40:57 am
Hi I was in BS in 85/86 we were the first to deploy from SWASES to Soweto.. I remember the incidents that you talking about there was another incident at a training base called (Misita) Northern Cape. One of my troops shot him self through the chest with a R4.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: IRISH on September 18, 2009, 12:08:50 pm
The troop who died from rabies might have been Bruce West who was from East London. The army doctor stuffed up big time and the whole issue could easily been avoided. I was his teacher and I used to ride in the bush on their farm near Nahoon Dam with him and his younger brother.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Hoofseun on October 01, 2009, 03:26:12 pm
Hozit all
There were two tragic insidents during my time in berede 83 to 87

1.One bike squad demo team member was bitten by a "meercat" on sunday
morning and taken to hosp but was released next day about 3 day's after he past away the "meercat" had rabies.

2.We had to stand guard at the ammo dump near north west command when the truck samil 100  driver cold not make his turn and stop to reverse
one troop jump of to pick up stones to trow at sign boards. He slipped and fell
under the back wheels and was run over.He died on the spot.

Does anybody remember these insidents

Cheers


Not sure if your 2nd one is the same one I recall.  We were on sport pass (Wednesday) in '84 to Potch when one of the oaks tried to get onto a Samil 100 and landed inbetween the rear wheels.  Think the oak was a Corporal, quite a big man.   I think Henry Honniball may remember some more of this.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Hoofseun on October 01, 2009, 03:29:09 pm
We had another incident in '85.  The Guys from 2 SWAPES left Onathinge bridge at night back for Okatope Base.  The Platoon Sgt (Cpl) left after the rest to ensure everything was fine and then tried to catch up with the rest.  He ended up riding into the rear end of the last bike in the squad.  He did not make it.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: 63magic on October 29, 2009, 12:13:29 pm
wondering if these two bikes were used on the border??

on gumtree

http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-ViewAdLargeImage?AdId=165096263&back=-1&ImageIndex=1
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on November 02, 2009, 02:48:32 pm
We had another incident in '85.  The Guys from 2 SWAPES left Onathinge bridge at night back for Okatope Base.  The Platoon Sgt (Cpl) left after the rest to ensure everything was fine and then tried to catch up with the rest.  He ended up riding into the rear end of the last bike in the squad.  He did not make it.

I have heard about this incident. Apparently he wasn't wearing a helmet and hit the tar road head first. Anybody know more?

Confirm the Stubbs accident. I'm in northern Uganda at the moment, at my bro Patrick's, he was the officer in charge at that show. Durban, if I remember correctly. Stubbs got pissed and belligerent, was ordered to go sleep it off and disobeyed, left the barracks again, passed out under a SAMIL and was run over. He was very flat around the chest. Patrick told me the story just the other night. He picked Stubbs up and put him in the ambulance, the others wouldn't touch him. The investigation determined that he had acted absolutely correct, witnesses testified the same.

That makes at least 7 okes I know of who died while in bike squad. Only one was operational.

2 weeks before I got there in January 1981, a Lt named Burger was killed at the back of Berede, where the road went between the lane of trees by old Commandant Stark's house. He raced the MX nationals and had his own CR 250 in the camp, went screaming down the road out the back of the base and hit an old Bedford garbage truck at the left dogleg between the trees back there. Some of my other B/S corporal connections talked to him as he was leaving camp and less than a minute later heard him hit the truck. Killed instantly.

About a week later L/cpl Swanepoel hit a cheese mine near Oshigambo in Ovamboland. Patrick was the rider right behind him, he's told me the story in detail. Then a few weeks later, one of the new loots who had arrived with me, Neil Johnson from Cape Town, was killed at Brickor MX track in Edenvale near Joburg airport. Just past Corobrik. He raced 125's and crashed after the start and a bunch of bikes ran over him.

Re the bikes on Gumtree (what is that, an online classified or something?) the one in the foreground is either an 81 or 82, front fender looks 81-ish. The bike's been afro-engineered to a certain extent. Frame is silver, brown paint ?? Looks in decent shape for an 81. Doubt if it's ex-SADF. All those were pretty well trashed. Can't see any evidence of luggage rack welded on behind the seat - it ended up breaking the subframe on almost all the bikes.
 
I have 2 82's in a container that just docked in Cape Town yesterday, and one at my dad's house in Florida. I like to sit on them - the muscle memory is very enjoyable.

The bike in the backgound is not 81 or 82 - check the engine and exhaust. It's a wreck, from the looks of it.

Do any of you 84/85/86 okes remember Sgts Ruben de Kock and Joe D'Abreu? And De Wet? He was a nasty piece of work, sadistic PF type, was 6 months junior to me. We didn't see eye to eye, needless to say. Came v-e-e-e-ry close to a rumble in the jungle a few times :biggrin: He didn't enjoy being called a PF p**s, apparently. Sensitive type, below the skin.   

I'm still collecting stories and info about B/S for the unit history, running a bit behind cause I'm out of the country at the moment. Please contact me, your story will help complete the project.

Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Mike B on November 02, 2009, 03:19:02 pm
I have a mate barry Kruger I think he was in Bike squad in 86 0r 7 now runs a knock shop in Pretoria, will pm you his number when I find it, you could hook up for a wild ride on the wild side  :3some:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistol on November 02, 2009, 03:21:17 pm
 Wherethefuckarewe - I remember the names De Wet and De Kock - what is Patrick's surname??
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on November 02, 2009, 04:18:11 pm
MikeB - thanks - everybody I speak to adds one more piece to the puzzle. We spke on the phone once, right? Must chat again sometime when I get back. Over a beer.

Pistol - it's Devy. He was a troop in pl 6/7 and later came back as a lt, later Captain and the CO. I never met Ruben De Kock, but Patrick has told me many stories about him, same with D'Abreu. Crazy bastards too. Ja old de Wet was originally a donkey driver, never did much with the bikes, just the infantry training. Tough oke, as far as he knew. I believe he is still in the South African National Disgrace Force.

I suppose it's typical, I am still good friends with several of my gabbas from those days, I see 3 from B/S 1981/2/3 all the time..... maybe it's time gone by, but I remember all the bikers as good okes :biggrin:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Manic on November 02, 2009, 06:46:23 pm
When I was in std 7 I use to ride with a guy who use to be in the bike squad.

He could lift the XR in 1 st gear, take it to 5th, start gearing down to 1st again. All on the back wheel. His record for a wheelie was 28km. Changing hands, gearing up and down, going around corners everything. He had lotsa pics in his house. Where they would built jumps and snap the Xr's in half etc.

Man could he ride!!!!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistol on November 03, 2009, 09:10:08 am
MikeB - thanks - everybody I speak to adds one more piece to the puzzle. We spke on the phone once, right? Must chat again sometime when I get back. Over a beer.

Pistol - it's Devy. He was a troop in pl 6/7 and later came back as a lt, later Captain and the CO. I never met Ruben De Kock, but Patrick has told me many stories about him, same with D'Abreu. Crazy bastards too. Ja old de Wet was originally a donkey driver, never did much with the bikes, just the infantry training. Tough oke, as far as he knew. I believe he is still in the South African National Disgrace Force.

I suppose it's typical, I am still good friends with several of my gabbas from those days, I see 3 from B/S 1981/2/3 all the time..... maybe it's time gone by, but I remember all the bikers as good okes :biggrin:

Thats it, do remember him - he came back as Cpt, and was the Adjudant for the period that I was there - Kmdt Ackerman was in charge when I left. RSM Van Coller was there at the time - also a "different one" that!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Mike B on November 04, 2009, 04:09:55 pm
Yeah we chatted on the phone a while back, couldn't seem to get our scheduals to gel, but I'm always up for a beer or two, let me know when you get back and you can head out to the farm for a day or two. :thumleft:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: graybeard on January 24, 2010, 09:15:15 pm
WTFAW Was mazed to see all the info you have on BS. I was in Potch Platoon 6. Passed out at Potch and then went to join Film Bureuax in Pretoria when all the guys went to the border. I had many photos mostly in storage now. The scene of Pa Burgers crash and many others from around Potch and near Mafeking. I will try dig them out if you are interested. I live in UK now and have been working North sea as ROV pilot. Do quite a bit of off road here in UK. Anyway good to read all the posts and looking forward to hearing more about when the book will be published.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on January 30, 2010, 04:43:14 pm
Hello Greybeard,

Yes, please dig them out, I'm VERY interested.

I got to Berede around the 10th of January 1981, from what I was told just a week or so after Lt. Burger got killed, I remember seeing the Bedford garbage truck in the vehicle park. Should have taken a photo of it, but wasn't thinking about the future (the past) then. Two of my corporal friends spoke to him as he jaaged out the back, heard him hit the truck and were first on the scene.

My best friend was in Pl 6 (or 7, he can't remember, the dumbshit) and I knew Dave Buck then, he lives 3 k's away from where I am now.  Do you remember any of these okes? .....Brian Dial (have contact with him), Derek Bruff, Johan le Roux, Craig Cousins, CP Nel,  Olwage,  Jerry du Preez, and of course Pieter Swanepoel who hit the mine. Or Peter Fourie? I just made contact with him too, he's in Windhoek. Or any of the corporals? Clem da Mata? Dommiekie de Klerk? Claassen, Froneman, Chandler? Staff Beets? Or the loots, Wannenburg or Basson? I am also in contact with Capt. Stroebel's family, he's been dead for more than ten years now.

Please PM me, we have a lot to talk about. My first job after SADF was diver for SubSea Intl. Never got to the North Sea, but knew many okes from there. I have some interesting shots of ROV's in the mid-80's that you'd like.

Looks like I'll be living in the UK part-time towards the end of the year, too. May need some advice. You know, the INSIDER info  :ricky:

It'sa fun project, making contact with many old connections after living overseas for a long time.
Cheers   
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: fakawidan on February 07, 2010, 06:41:24 pm
Howzit all
In 83 -84 demo team used xr 200 R,s 1 honda 3wheeler a suzuki 500 dr with no shocks for a 8 man piramid.
Any body out there got foto,s or video of there demo,s i saw some okes do frontwheel stoppies.

just became a proud owner of a xt 600 "93 model" boaght it over the internet as i am in kazakhstan
and have only tweeks in SA for riding
cheers All
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Just Blip It! on February 20, 2010, 10:24:39 pm
2 friends I ride with were in Bike squad. Peter Silver and Darryl Cleaver, do you remember them? Actually I think they were much later on around '86 or '87.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Tubeless on March 14, 2010, 05:30:44 pm
Enjoyed thanks :mwink:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on March 15, 2010, 11:03:30 am
Hello Blipit,

No don't know them. But i'd like to get in contact with them if you could facilitate? I do know some people who i'm sure know them though.

sorry for tardy reply, I'm in Dar es salaam playing with vintage toys1

Cheers
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: kwagga-sakkie on March 15, 2010, 08:09:19 pm
I went to Okatope from "faffaskool"(Oudshoorn) late 1986.
The BS as well as horses were stationed there.Just after we arived SWA SPES troops departed to Otavi  and with them most of the Bikes.Capt Jan Truter and his twin Brother Sergeant Major Truter were in command and tried to keep a BS going.We had about 15 bikes left.They started a small demo squad for Ovambo land.Most of the time we used the Bikes for Pleasure rides and to commute to Ondangwa and back.After long patrols of working in the Bush we would return back to Okatope for a few days.These days and nights were spend in the bar where we would try and waste our R120 "danger pay"
The XR"s usualy came to the bar too and many a night we trashed the bar with them,together with the local Koevoet guys.
We once got the order to escort a group of BMW travelers that traveled through Ovamboland from Oshivello to Oshakati,then on to Ruacana and back to Oshakati.Next day out at Oshivello again.
We did this with no Goggles,no gear,R4 around the shoulder and XR" flatout for 2 days.Me and several of my squat members also got bitten by a Tame Meerkat we had.This was just after a trooper died of Rabies that "klaared out" a month before.
All of us that was bitten had to wait an agonising 90 days of not knowing whether we got infected or not,and had several treatments during this time in Oshakati.
Okatope stayed active until middle 1987 when we moved to Ondangwa as Intellegence reaction force with our Ovambo troops.We stayed there until end of 1987.
I think when the original BS members left Okatope early 1987 it was the end of the BS"s active service in Ovamboland.
Thanks for this report,great to be part of it and the memories it stirrs!
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Post by: Whethefakawe on March 22, 2010, 11:20:19 pm
Thanks boet, good info. I remember Jan Truter as Sersant ROOIMOER. There were 2 or them, twins, it got confusing at times -  :laughing4:
The one I knew went to Formative Course and became an officer and a twatwaffle. Whaaa-haaa.

I believe he is dead now.

Your post confirms the end of BS around 1987 - 10-12 years total time.

Please email of you feel like it

Cheers
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Post by: Wolf on May 21, 2010, 10:03:45 pm
Quote from: Whethefakawe
Do you remember the case of oom Dirk and the three cheetahs?

It rings a bell, but pray tell!! Dirk de Bott?

Quote from: Whethefakawe
From what I see, it looks like your dad's farm may have been the site of one of my misadventures. :D

You didn't moer into the "inspeksie gat" with the bike did you? Oh wait a minute, that was my brother.
Wow so many memories come flooding back reading this report, I was based in Oshakati for a while and clearly remember our staff seargent moering int othe inspection hole at the main gate one evening
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Post by: Rbacknz on May 24, 2010, 09:23:16 am
The photo of the 2 guys that couldn't make it around the corner and ended up in the bush,  were Johnny Welsh (from Kimberly)  and Slang. Cant for the life of me remember his name but spent many a night paired up with him in TB's. He nearly broke his neck late one afternoon when he hit a low branch with his head. For some reason he had put his pisspot helmet on.(We weren't in the habit of wearing them then) . He carried on riding for 400m before falling off. He was unconscious for the 400m. His dad then his mum past away while he was in the army and I remember how cut up he was during this period . He didn't much help from the army then. How he stayed sane is beyond me.
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Post by: Whethefakawe on May 24, 2010, 10:13:35 pm
Yip. Johnnie Welsh and Reeves - forget his first name - they were always together just like Myburgh and Blignaut, and Sutton and Heath! And Red Heart and Coke.!

Is that you, Patrick?
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Post by: Rbacknz on May 24, 2010, 10:33:44 pm
It is Patrick. Ridgeback is my nick name here in New Zealand given to me by my sponsor when I was roadracing. Got taken out on the track oneday, when I got going again all I wanted to do was catch the arsehole that took me out. My sponsor said I was like a ridgeback. The name has stuck. Reeves. Thanks I have been trying to remember that name for ages. Was it him or Welsh that crashed after both sights of the shotgun and his R4 came up and hit him in the temple after doing a jump. Was freeking funny when it happened. After that they stopped carrying the shotty. Have you been able to contact anymore of the guys. AND when are we going to see the book??
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Post by: krister on June 07, 2010, 10:44:50 am
Wow!  What a read and what nice pics!  I grew up in Potch and can still remember the brown XRs and DRs that came later... My schoolboy fantasy was exchanging my TS50ER for one of those  :thumleft:

I only just missed national service, and sometimes I think I'm worse off for it.  Will definitely invest in your book!  Let us know when it's done...  ;)
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Post by: Whethefakawe on June 13, 2010, 05:31:09 pm
It is Patrick. Ridgeback is my nick name here in New Zealand given to me by my sponsor when I was roadracing. Got taken out on the track oneday, when I got going again all I wanted to do was catch the arsehole that took me out. My sponsor said I was like a ridgeback. The name has stuck. Reeves. Thanks I have been trying to remember that name for ages. Was it him or Welsh that crashed after both sights of the shotgun and his R4 came up and hit him in the temple after doing a jump. Was freeking funny when it happened. After that they stopped carrying the shotty. Have you been able to contact anymore of the guys. AND when are we going to see the book??

It was Johnny Welsh who got bliksemed by his R4 on one side of the head and the Snotneus 40 mil on the other. Here's the proof!
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/559/61opswelshturban.jpg) (http://img810.imageshack.us/i/61opswelshturban.jpg/)


I remember that day very clearly, as usual I was at the very back end of the line. We hit an old mahangu field at 90 degrees, remember? It was like a f**king MX whoop section and we hit it at 70 or so. As I recall nobody crashed but that was just pure luck. Old Johnny was the only casualty. He bled like stuck pig, from deep cuts to the scalp. It was friggin hilarious.

The only other pl 12 oke I'm in touch with is Fritz, in fact saw him in Cape Town last weekend. I'll send you his email.

Book at the publisher, hopefully soon!

Cheers
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Post by: fakawidan on June 13, 2010, 05:32:22 pm
Yes Juri
Any photo,s of Demo team
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Post by: Stones on June 21, 2010, 02:57:25 pm

Somone just sent this link to me and instead of doing the work thing I am on memory lane. I only have a few pics but slowly, as I read and cast my mind back to the bike squad days, the memories and faces come back.

After infantry school in 1979 I joined the bike squad around October of the same year until December 1980. Did the Potch thing and Swaspes thing. Remember Cpt Stroebel, Lt Wannenburg, Lt Greg Cochran, Beets, Lt Burger ( chatted to him before he crashed ) Sgt Francois Strauss, Mark (in contact with) etc. etc.

One of the worst and lasting incidents I recall was the mine that one of the guys hit. We were about to fly back to the States and one evening he still said he cannot wait to see "Appel" his girlfriend again. A few days later he hit the mine, have a pic of his bike or what was left in a trailer somewhere.

Stoffel the baboon that raided the kitchen in Swaspes every so often...!
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Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on June 21, 2010, 10:18:13 pm
Stones, we must have been in BS together then. Danie Winterbach, Wayne Hitge, Charlie Holden, Rob Spence, "Shorty" Holland, Robin Gwynne,
"Porky" Hepburn, Leon van Jaarsveld, JP Groenewald, Wit + Swart Gouws, Lemmer Visser, Steyn, Terence Paterson, Kevin Atkins,
Colin "Bobs" Botha, Martin Postma. Kan nie nou almal onthou nie.
Kpl Heard, kpl little,[Des], en korporaal Reed.
Wie ken nog enigiemand uit daardie April 1979-Des 1980 BS groep uit? Ek dink al hoe ernstiger aan die reel van n re-unie.
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Post by: Stones on June 22, 2010, 01:38:15 pm

Hi 2 Stroke Dan,

Since I saw this link it is just amazing how the guys faces start popping up in ones mind. We still started off with the Honda 350's and Suzuki Sp370's. The XR500's came a little later on and I recall Stroebel got the first one of course.

I promised myself to go digging a bit and see what pics I still have, I might still have a full Berede photo of 1980. Some of the guys bought their own private XR500's, all walked in at a Honda dealer at the same time, got time off from Stroebs for the sole purpose. We had a black t-shirt with a bike wheel and wings as a logo/avatar.

A re-union, even in terms of contact numbers and names to share stories and pics will be awesome. Sure I will be able to get hold of some of the okes.

I see u are in the Western Cape as well
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Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on June 26, 2010, 03:54:35 pm
There was at SWA Spes Oshivello a very short, but hardegat Sgt. Scheepers. Big moustache. He once made the chef run to the gate carrying one of his big cooking pots :imaposer:

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Post by: MOGGIE on July 22, 2010, 07:45:31 pm
I was on the border from 1978 periodically until 1987. Had a lot to do with the Berede guys. I always envied them I had a MT 250 Hoda Elsinor scrambler. Can someone still remember it. It was one of the first 2 stroke Honda's built. My MX bike was a CR 400 red rocket. On the border I used to borrow the bikes from guys at Ondangwa and Ruacana to play with. Cant remember names but slowly remembering it again. I was with DMI at the time.
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Post by: Animaal on October 19, 2010, 08:42:17 pm
Hi Guys,

I managed to scan some of the pics, not all...

Time: July 1984 to July 1985
Places: based at SWAPES / Otavi,
Trips into: Oshakati, Enhana, Ondangwa, Kovangoland, Owamboland, Bushmanland
People: Kapt Wim van Niekerk, myself as Lt, Sgt Heinrich ..., Corp ..., ~60 local Namibian "black" permanent force members

Quick Story:
I was drafted into SWATF's initiative to start a SWATF Bike Squad. I did first 12 months of JL's at Okahanja. After becoming Sub-Lt was allocated to SWATF Bike squad as I had been racing some Enduros while living in Swakopmund prior to Army.
We were allocated ~80 or so brand new XR500RE's. 1984 model. Brand spanking new and spray painted army  brown. 
I was responsible for training roughly ~80 or so permanent force local Namibian black staff (mostly Owmabo's, Kavango's, Nama's, etc..) to ride bikes and participate in motorised infantry. All of the 80 never ever rode a bicycle. Onl yone coloured chap had ridden a bicycle before. So you can imagine the daunting task ahead.  There were quite a few that did not make it. And more bikes that did not survive. But we ended up with about ~50 or so well qualified black bike squad members.

I remember the guys being the envy of many a RSA bike quad  member as many of them were still on old XR500's.... and not on the new XR500RE's.

We did some demo's at Oshivelo.... and few others.. mostly we tripped into border zone, and probably were the only ones to actually do patrols into the border areas. I know many of the RSA bike guys at that time (1984/1985) were only doing road patrols.

We did some really nice patrols through Kavangoland, Owamboland, a neat trip was into Bushmanland (south of Kavangoland)... and we also had to provide security patrols to a guy that was awarded contract to remove indigenous forests from the border areas as the good old RS of A decided to install a 100m no-go zone between Namibia and Angola....

We did not see contact during my 12 month stint. But, we did on a few occasions pick up terr spoor's and reported for further follow-up. Detected some mines in Owamboland. And did a few surprise trips into villages to smoke out terr's.

All in all I can say it was a magic time in the Bike Squad. Meeting many challenges and achieving a great success of training locals for the bike squad. I would love to know how many of these guys did something with their skills way afterwards ?

See:
Pic #2 : Line-up of ~30 bikes and bike squad members of local SWATF. Probably the first BEE initiative in the world.
Pic #3: Picture or how a rider was kitted out. R4 rifle, with extended magazine (50 rounds), and battle jackets.
Pic #4: Front end wheelie, at base, Eenhana
Pic #5: Wheeling at brick works outside SWAPES base in Otavi (Imagine 12 months on a bike, sleeping next to it every night)
Pic #6: Standing on seat wheeling, outside one of the bases on Owamboland
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Post by: Animaal on October 19, 2010, 08:43:24 pm
more:
Pic #7: One foot wheeling on back seat
Pic #8: mucking around again wheeling on one of border control lines
Pic #9: Lots of one handed wheelies, victory, somewhere in Bushmandland (in Namibia south of Kavangoland), this was probably one of the best places to ride an offroad bike EVER, give it a try one day !!!!
Pic #10: local motocross practice track outside SWASPES base in Otavi at Brick Works.
Pic #11: How we transported the bikes into border patrols
 
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Post by: Animaal on October 19, 2010, 08:44:08 pm
More #2:
Pic #12: Radio on back with R4 Rifle and Wheeling once again... man was this a jol.... I remember Kapt Wim van Niekerk was not impressed at some point in the bike squad trip into border area
Pic #13: at SWAPES base on parade ground, RSM (J.C. Jnr) was not impressed with us messing around on parade ground. Remember a few guys falling their moer off including Sgt Heinrich ? that fell and concussed himself and went into epileptic fit at one point.
Pic #14:  Wheeling with fellow bike squaders (SWATF biek squad meets RSA bike squaders). Myself on right and middle was Jeff van Pletzen (very good rider from Natal) and on left was a Corp from SA Bike Squad.
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Post by: wreckit on October 21, 2010, 08:52:08 am
I was in Bike Squad in 81/82,

I was with Mark Flemington, Erick Birkner, Anton Coetzee and my platoon Sarge was "Snor" Aka Sgt Scheepers if I can recall. I was supposed to stay back in the demo team, but gave up my space for Gary Keiser. I remmember one opps bringing back a suspected terrorist on the back of my xr,he was blindfolded, his hands tied together and sitting the wrong way around holding on to the rack at the back ( so he couldn't get to my R4). I was flat out on the xr in the shona when Huffnagel (who always had to race) came pass me. The fence which was laying flat after the buffels had ridden over them stood straight up in front of me and caught the bike. As I tried in vain to hold on, I ended up flat over the handle bars on the bike and my back acted as a launch pad for the poor bugger on the back. I had already fallen and was getting up when I saw him hit the ground 20 metres in front of me in a puff of dust.  His blindfold had come of the one eye and he was covered in scratches, and his hands was still tied together. He came running to me and probably convinced that I was trying to kill him, tried to show his cooperation by picking up my xr for me . Unfortunately he chose the cherry red twin exhausts headers which burnted of all the skin on the palms of his hands. When I handed him over to the intelligence guys, the captain took one look at the ,scratched,bleeding and burnt bugger and wanted to kla me on, on the spot because he was convinced that i had taken matters into my own hands and tortured him on the way. It was only after much explaining that I was let off.
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Post by: Bees on October 21, 2010, 11:25:49 am
subscribe !  :thumleft:
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Post by: pieman on October 21, 2010, 03:23:53 pm
Was in the new fangled SAW after the withdraw in 89.  SWATF combined into on unit in the SAW, 12 SAI based in Potch.  Although I was a Doggie I did a course on the bikes (and guess what, XR's  ;D ).  Good days.

The D'Abreu you guys are talking about, was he from the Vaal?
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Post by: Whethefakawe on October 26, 2010, 03:12:40 am
I was in Bike Squad in 81/82,

I was with Mark Flemington, Erick Birkner, Anton Coetzee and my platoon Sarge was "Snor" Aka Sgt Scheepers if I can recall. I was supposed to stay back in the demo team, but gave up my space for Gary Keiser. I remmember one opps bringing back a suspected terrorist on the back of my xr,he was blindfolded, his hands tied together and sitting the wrong way around holding on to the rack at the back ( so he couldn't get to my R4). I was flat out on the xr in the shona when Huffnagel (who always had to race) came pass me. The fence which was laying flat after the buffels had ridden over them stood straight up in front of me and caught the bike. As I tried in vain to hold on, I ended up flat over the handle bars on the bike and my back acted as a launch pad for the poor bugger on the back. I had already fallen and was getting up when I saw him hit the ground 20 metres in front of me in a puff of dust.  His blindfold had come of the one eye and he was covered in scratches, and his hands was still tied together. He came running to me and probably convinced that I was trying to kill him, tried to show his cooperation by picking up my xr for me . Unfortunately he chose the cherry red twin exhausts headers which burnted of all the skin on the palms of his hands. When I handed him over to the intelligence guys, the captain took one look at the ,scratched,bleeding and burnt bugger and wanted to kla me on, on the spot because he was convinced that i had taken matters into my own hands and tortured him on the way. It was only after much explaining that I was let off.

I wasyour pl sgt first half ofthe year when we did ops yahoo, remember?

pls pm me! Im in Abu Dhabi airport so may take a dayor 2 to getback.

Ivegot many photos of you okes, remember Birkner very well-good oke. Also remember Huffnagel, Franken, Lewarne, Verster, Russell, Kruger, and others. I just made contact with Herbert Schubert too, heis on faeboo SWASPES page

cheers
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Post by: Airguitar on October 27, 2010, 10:52:54 am
Any news on the book?
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Post by: Albany Farm on November 29, 2010, 12:56:34 pm
I really enjoyed reading everything and the photo's have brought back so many memories . Herewith my take (written for another forum ) on a similar experience .


I was in the SADF July 1980 to July 1982 . My Bike Squad /SADF experience is not very flattering to the old SADF nor will it rate very highly as far as “ grensvegter” or " biker" stories go , but that is the way it was . I think it is necessary put things into perspective . Joining the army was something I did in order to ride bikes and of course avoid prison . I have always been a mediocre rider but I love it . Basics at 6 SAI Grahamstown was fairly uneventful with the exception of very crap weather , and getting to know and understand Afrikaners for the first time in my life . My objective was to put up with what ever shit came my way as long as I ended up in Bike Squad . ( My older brother had told me many stories of the fun he had had as part of Bike Squad Demo unit in Heidelberg in 1975) .

Towards the end of basics we were advised that unless we wanted to be foot soldiers we had to apply for transfer to other units . I immediately selected Bike Squad as my first choice with Parrabats as second choice  ( very romantic and totally clueless ). To my shock and horror we were asked to pass a fitness test as well as a one or two hour written test on our bike handling and mechanical abilities . At this stage my bike experience was limited to a Honda 50  cc Monkey bike from age 9 to 12 and a few trail rides on a 1979 Suzuki PE 250 I had bought on HP the year before . This totally un roadworthy bike was also my only means of transport . ( I still have many of the fines to prove it ) . As luck would have it I befriended two fairly good riders who were not lacking in technical experience . I sat next to these guys during the written exam and passed with flying colors . I cant remember what the fitness test was all about except that we had to be able to run the 2.4 in under 10 minutes . I think 12 minutes was the normal acceptable requirement to be considered 60% fit for the infantry . I was elated when they announced the successful applicants and my name was on the list .

 We were put on a milk train to what we thought was Bike Squad in Potch . Sometime during the tedious trip we realized that we were heading in the wrong direction . The powers that be continued the lie by informing us that Bike Squad had been moved to Upington . I have vivid memories of the excitement that prevailed in the back of the Bedford truck as we arrived at 8 SAI . We were all crowded around the back opening of the covered truck trying to get our first view of the Bikes . ( It would be another 6 or 7 months before we saw our first bike).

We were told that we were part of a new experimental unit which was the brainchild of Lieutenant General Geldenhuys . We were soon transferred to Riemvasmaak which was fairly close to the Namibian border .( The Riemvasmaak Community of about 700 families had been forcibly relocated to Namibia in the mid 70's to make way for the SADF )
 

Some of us were housed in tents whilst others had there beds packed like sardines on the wrap around stoep of a very old  Missionary house . What followed was a few months of intense afkack training including courses in  tracking , sharp shooter , infiltration , escape and evasion and a few others I cant remember .The whole process involved more afkack than I thought I was capable of handling . We ended up with two highly trained and disciplined Platoons and were told we were now qualified " Junior Recces " . Because the unit was new they had not even designed the unit logo yet.

We were than transferred to Bike Squad at Potch Equestrian Centre for the final phase of our training . We were brimming with pride and enthusiasm because our achievements. Things began to fall apart almost immediately . We were issued with Honda 350 xl,s and Suzuki 370 SP's . The bikes were in a shocking condition with minimal spares available . We were advised that our bikes would not be replaced until they were all totally buggered  , and besides the replacement bikes (XR 500R Pro-link) had not been delivered by Midmacor yet . There were many rumors of officers ( not Bike Squad ) all over the region riding around on our new bikes . I had contacts at Midmacor and soon discovered that Midmacor had delivered the Bikes a few months before . Captain Stroebel  could be resourceful when he wanted to . I think the unofficial order came from him but I am not sure . Collectors of those old relics would be heart broken, but we were instructed to destroy our bikes . We spent the following day doing exactly that , crashing the bikes and generally having fun . We were issued with brand new Pro-Links . The bike training was nothing to write home about , although I did learn a few tricks , like dropping a bike at high speed in order to use it as cover . Most of all I recall the fun we had racing our privately owned bikes at the track behind the camp . It was very competitive as many of the guys had ridden competitively in MX or enduro's prior to national service . Being a mediocre but competitive rider I often came off second best and spent a week in hospital prior to leaving for the border . Occasionally the nearby Fourteenth Field Artillery would mistakenly land a few misplaced shells close to the horse stables and we were sent out on bikes to locate the horses who had escaped in fear . Bike  training at potch was pretty uneventful as most of the guys already had sufficient riding skills and the instructors were on the same learning curve . Just before we finished the course a stock take was done in the stores . It was discovered that over a million rands worth of stock was missing . Many of the guys had a few pairs of army issue RG MX boots .( so did the Berede guys ) . Some of the guys had privately owned Pro-links and probably rarely payed for spares again. I recall once seeing a queue of about 30 people lining up outside stores at midnight . We refueled our bikes at the end of every day, only to find the the tank empty the next day. My platoon was sent to the border and the other platoon stayed behind as demo squad .

We were exited to go up to the border ( SWASPES in Otavi ) and some actually looked forward to some "action"  . What followed was a travesty for the South African Tax Payer . We had a holiday second to none . One of the fundamental problems was the fact that none of the Rank had completed all of the courses with us.There was no predetermined plan on how best to utilize our skills and more importantly how to manage us . Due to a constant shortage of bikes and spares we were normally only able to put together enough bikes for one section to operate effectively . We took turns at doing patrols which by and large and due to poor leadership were just an excuse for a trail ride or enduro race complete with pit stops at the kuka shops . More than once guys returned from a "patrol" slightly pissed. It is a miracle that our intake never suffered any casualties and I don't mean as a result of a conflict situation. More often than not we lazed about or were used to escort Teff for the hoses to where ever they were being utilized . When the bikes were functional we played allot. Our discipline was atrocious and being bored we drank allot . The food prepared by the chef at Swaspes was brilliant and would not be out of place in any up market hotel .It makes you wonder why, with same budget, the food was generally not edible elsewhere.

The platoon was then sent to Tsumeb , probably because there were not enough bikes to go around . Although we did the occasional Kap line patrol and guarded the odd farm , there was no plan for us . The commanding officer was a very religious man and a soft touch . He allowed us to phone home and arrange for civvies to be sent up . Many days were spent lounging around the pool with civilians at the Tsumeb hotel . Waiters served the drinks at the pool ( Tough life on the grens ) . Being a soft touch , the Captain often gave Bike Squad members compassionate leave to return to South Africa . All that was needed was a phone call with a sob story about a grand mother on her death bed. Being very religious he requested that the least we could do was wake up in the morning for parade and a prayer . Most did not bother . Discipline was non existent . One of guys from Natal even grew dagga plants in a neat garden around the tent . The same guy was given a weeks leave to attend a civilian court case back home . I will never forget his return . He drove his private vehicle ( a Mini ) , goofed , all the way from Durban to Tsumeb ending up with a doughnut spin on the parade ground . I think his punishment was to work in the Captains garden for a few hours.

A few of us were klaad aan for drunk and disorderly behavior or what ever, whilst on escort duty. Our Ratel broke down and we were forced to sleep over at 61 Bat. We were invited to the officers mess for drinks and expected to spend the night . Just after midnight and thoroughly pissed , we were advised that the vehicle had been repaired and we were to continue with our escort duty immediately . To make matters worse our new friends gave us each a six pack for the road . To cut a long story short ,we were advised that when everyone else returned to Potch to Kla out of the Army we would have to remain behind at SWASPES for a court martial . We ignored the order , arranged forged travel orders and returned to Potch . I will for ever be grateful to Captain Stroebel who although being aware of our pending court martial allowed us to Kla out .

Although my bike squad experience was a total waste of tax payers money ,it was a lot of fun and the life lessons learnt from the whole SADF experience proved to be invaluable . I did a few camps thereafter, which involved Soweto patrols in bakkie's . The experience was a wake up call . By this time I was mature enough to realize the devastation that Apartheid had inflicted on so many South Africans . For the first time I was ashamed to have been part of the SADF . I also realized just how little the average white South African knew about life in the townships and just how much effort the National Party had put into molding our thoughts and hiding the truth . The tragedy for white South Africa and our descendants is that it will take many generations before we are trusted , if ever .



Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on December 07, 2010, 08:07:45 am
Were you in platoon 10?
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Post by: Stones on February 25, 2011, 11:53:42 am
 :pot: whethefakatheboek  :peepwall:
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Post by: Dctr46 on July 26, 2011, 11:25:59 am
awesome we want more
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Post by: DeeCeeBee on November 12, 2011, 03:42:04 pm
the closest i got to the bereedes was a cousin who in the unit.

What happened to the book???

BUMP BUMP_
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Post by: Laban on November 12, 2011, 08:33:49 pm
Thanks boet, good info. I remember Jan Truter as Sersant ROOIMOER. There were 2 or them, twins, it got confusing at times -  :laughing4:
The one I knew went to Formative Course and became an officer and a twatwaffle. Whaaa-haaa.

I believe he is dead now.

Your post confirms the end of BS around 1987 - 10-12 years total time.

Please email of you feel like it

Cheers

Both Truter Brothers are alive, living at the west coast!!  :thumleft:
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Post by: Whethefakawe on December 14, 2011, 12:47:06 pm

Despite my previous remarks - some good okes back then turned into dooses and many ex-dooses turned into good okes

When you're an Infantry Corporal - one step lower than GOD - any sergeant (or Staff or Sarmajor) who makes YOU run to the tree on the horizon to fetch a leaf is a twatwaffle   :imaposer:

If both Truters are still well that's excellent  :biggrin:
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Post by: V-Strom on December 14, 2011, 02:55:41 pm
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Post by: BlueBull2007 on February 03, 2012, 04:38:04 pm
This thread just gets better and better. How is it going with the book?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 03, 2012, 09:19:44 pm
I need to make contact with some of my intake bike squadders, to sort out my memory. For instance, at one stage we did quite a bit of fuel tanker escorting from Swaspes base at the Owambo gate to Ondagwa and Oshakati. At one stage we did a series of night escorts for the mine sweeping guys, to check for mines in the tar road previously mentioned. We would go from Oshaks to Ondangs 2 to 3 a night, and one evening travelling south from Oshakati to Ondangwa, our sweeper Buffel hit a landmine in the tar road. It was a rainy evening and up to about a kilo or two, I was tailgating this vehicle to avoid the downpour, but backed off due to obvious danger of tailgating. Minutes later it hit the mine and I remember this incredibly bright flash in which I saw the Buffel suspended in mid-air at a 45degree angle. We went down to protect the Buffel immediately in case there is an accompanying ambush to the mine. I cannot remember where the Buffel guys were from, and their Buffel cammander got his arms broken if I remember correctly. I also remember extreme bravery, in that this commander who was sitting upright in six inches of water, still shouted at his men to spread out in case of a ambush. This is why I would love a get-together of my intake, to brainstorm, or rather memory-storm these events, to get clarity. It sometimes feel even more distant than the 30 odd years that lies in between us and them.
Those 21 months of bike squad was perhaps the best years of my life, and I do not say this lightly. Obviously helped along by a sick perversive obsession over motorcycles.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on February 03, 2012, 09:28:12 pm
Dan...there a group on Facebook but they are a bunch of twats
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 04, 2012, 08:22:08 am
Thanks Pete, I am not on Facebook, but will ask my wife to worm me in :imaposer:
I would really like to meet some guys to put memory into perspective.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on February 17, 2012, 08:10:18 pm
 :imaposer:

Jeez Pete that's a bit harsh boet  But it's getting there.....

Dan - which intake were you again? Pardon my dumb question - just got home from the pub  :biggrin:

I offered to set up a SWASPES website if someone will administer it - I don't know enough, or have the time, to do so.

The problem with Facebook is, anything you put on there they consider THEIR property.  Fuck 'em. I proposed a private, CLOSED SWASPES site where okes can put their stories and photos and KEEP THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, and the response was very loud and positive.  No Hardly-Ableson wankers, Dutch activists or yank know-it-all right wing gun nuts - just okes who actually served in the unit.  

I personally have almost 200 photos and 60 stories I refuse to post on FB because of mentioned privacy issues.

I'm also withdrawing completely from FB - only went there to look at Spes page anyways, but it's getting too generic for me.

Cheers

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: LONG BOB on February 21, 2012, 01:56:27 pm
Hi , here on the south coast lives a Flippy Barnard, was a L/Corp in 1980/81 if any one interested i have his contact details
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Ratt on October 16, 2012, 09:19:46 pm
Ek het nou flippen lank gelees en vergeet om te eet. Ek is seker daarvan ek lewe in verkeerde tyd.

Die thread is op December 07, 2006 gemaak en daar is nog replies in 2012!! Awesome

Na ek die hele storie en kommentaar/getuigskrifte gelees het, bly een ding by my vas steek....

Waar is die boek? Wat is sy naam?

Sal like om vir my toppie 'n copy te kry. Hy is direk na skool mag toe en is nogsteeds daar.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Ratt on October 16, 2012, 09:54:25 pm


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Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: zetman on October 16, 2012, 10:22:40 pm
Ek sal graag ook n boek wil bestel julle manne was ysters
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: zacapa on November 11, 2012, 02:45:50 pm
Fantastic RideReport :thumleft: must have read it 3 times by now.
Surprisingly I came across what looks like one of the old SADF XR500's
on gumtree:
http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-motorcycles-scooters-3X-HONDA-XR500-W0QQAdIdZ423450805
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 13, 2012, 01:15:12 am
Its not one bike but three!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 20, 2012, 06:59:25 pm
:imaposer:

Jeez Pete that's a bit harsh boet  But it's getting there.....

Dan - which intake were you again? Pardon my dumb question - just got home from the pub  :biggrin:

I offered to set up a SWASPES website if someone will administer it - I don't know enough, or have the time, to do so.

The problem with Facebook is, anything you put on there they consider THEIR property.  Fuck 'em. I proposed a private, CLOSED SWASPES site where okes can put their stories and photos and KEEP THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, and the response was very loud and positive.  No Hardly-Ableson wankers, Dutch activists or yank know-it-all right wing gun nuts - just okes who actually served in the unit.  

I personally have almost 200 photos and 60 stories I refuse to post on FB because of mentioned privacy issues.

I'm also withdrawing completely from FB - only went there to look at Spes page anyways, but it's getting too generic for me.

Cheers



I arrived in Berede in Potch for training at the beginning of April 1979, and after about 3 months we moved up to Swaspes base in Oshvello. I klaared out end of 1980. Our oumanne were on XL350's, and we were the first guys to get XR500's, steel tank twinshock bikes with the angular rear fenders.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: ZK1 on December 04, 2012, 01:32:35 pm

Ek het hierdie ook baie geniet, alhoewel ek baie jonger is, was ek tussen 1980 en 1983 op Omega Basis gewees saam my ouers wat daar was vir 'n troue. Ek was maar tussen 3 en 4 jaar oud maar wens ek was ouer om beter te verstaan het wat daar aangaan. Al wat ek nou nog kon onthou was hoe die Vlossie binne geruik het, en die dag wat hulle ons op 'n buffel gevat het en die gaste gewys het hoe goed gedoen word. Ek onthou ook daar was 'n volstuis in 'n kampie wat glo enige iets geeet het wat jy vir hom gegee het. Ek sal bietjie uitvind wie die mense was wie se troue dit was, maar hy het glo met een van die nursies wat ook daar was getrou en hy het ook glo rooi hare gehad.

Sal bietjie probeer uitvind wie dit was. En of my ouers dalk foto's het van dit.


Zaak
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: usarose on December 26, 2012, 04:47:54 am
Wherethefuckarewe - I remember the names De Wet and De Kock - what is Patrick's surname??

I remember those 2 pricks De Wet and De Kock (ugly little dark skin - almost sif looking okes) - I was in Plt 9 and during a big inspection the Cpl from platoon 8 came over and did my inspection Cpl Greg Richmond - nothing ever pleased him...for once he said he was impressed and then these new PF arse holes come into
the bungalow and trash my shit - throw my kas over tip my bed on the floor and kak on my head for a shit inspection... - Cpl. Greg Richmond and Cpl. Steenkamp had some words with them about their behavior and they backed off.

I am in contact with about a dozen of our guys.
Lt. Goosen Platoon 8 and my Lt. was Greg Cochran.

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: usarose on December 26, 2012, 05:19:20 am


My best friend was in Pl 6 (or 7, he can't remember, the dumbshit) and I knew Dave Buck then, he lives 3 k's away from where I am now.  Do you remember any of these okes? .....Brian Dial (have contact with him), Derek Bruff, Johan le Roux, Craig Cousins, CP Nel,  Olwage,  Jerry du Preez, and of course Pieter Swanepoel who hit the mine. Or Peter Fourie? I just made contact with him too, he's in Windhoek. Or any of the corporals? Clem da Mata? Dommiekie de Klerk? Claassen, Froneman, Chandler? Staff Beets? Or the loots, Wannenburg or Basson? I am also in contact with Capt. Stroebel's family, he's been dead for more than ten years now.

 

These guys were our platoon 8/9 Ou manne I was in Platoon 9 and am in contact with about a dozen of the okes from then. Intesting reading - I have lots of pictures as well.
Guys that I was with in those platoons - Rob and Fred Grant, Kiepie Malherbe, Angie Tissen, Robbie Dirksen, Ian Scanlen, Meiring Beetge, William Labuschagne (Monty), Anton Barnard, Brian Scott , Steve Scott, Craig DeVilliers, Dougie Will, Barnie Barnard, Giovanni Palmieri, Juan Van Der Spek, Mark Williamson, L.Cpl Wilson, Peter Said, Trevor Binder to name a few.

Regards
Rob
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on December 26, 2012, 09:35:03 am
Robin Rose...is that you from Parkmore?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: usarose on December 26, 2012, 06:00:26 pm
Robin Rose...is that you from Parkmore?

Yes Pete - you doing well? Did the book ever get printed? If yes what is it called?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: dirtyXT on December 26, 2012, 08:00:40 pm
just re-read the entire thread!!! amazing. what is the book called? did it get finished?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: usarose on January 15, 2013, 04:06:26 pm
Robin Rose...is that you from Parkmore?

Yes Pete - it is me.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Pistonpete on January 15, 2013, 04:08:04 pm
Robin Rose...is that you from Parkmore?

Yes Pete - it is me.
haha you had a B120 that ran on cooking oil at one time? Are you in contact with Ira, Mark & Donald?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: usarose on January 15, 2013, 04:30:04 pm
:pot: whethefakatheboek  :peepwall:

 :pot:whethefakatheboek :peepwall: - agreed wtf where is the book? Do you need some upfront funds to help finance it? I am sure many people would pre pay for the book to help off set the costs - I have 16 plus email addresses of Platoon 8/9 guys.
Rob Rose
Platoon 9
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: redbikejohn on February 10, 2013, 10:03:35 pm
This thread was a good read today as i sit in a wet cold England. I was a British immigrant and while I didn’t need to go into the army I volunteered in std 8 at school!  I had a xr250 (old steel tank 1980 model) that I used to ride to school and play on the mine dumps on the weekend.  I ended up in 6 SAI in 1983 and asked to join the bike squad when they asked what we wanted to do.  The corporal told me I was wasting my time as they weren’t taking guys anymore.  Seems like he/they were lying seeing as someone else joined from 6SAI (as mentioned above).  As bikes were all I thought about this was devastating for me and I lost all interest in the army and looked for the easiest time possible after that – got in some trouble too so got shipped off to the border for six months and again for three months after that. This completely changed my life as my long term girlfriend slept with someone else and got pregnant!  Hence a different path in life which brought me back to the UK and I’m still totally immersed in dirt bikes – did a big enduro last Sunday in Wales.
Anyway the reason I’m posting this is: I was in bed reading the thread and my wife looked over and asked what I was reading as she could see the old blurred pics of the bikes.  I explained to her it was the ‘bike squad’ in the army and told her it was my dream at the time to join.  She replied “bloody hell, if you did join you’d still be there now”.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Casting from Turd on February 10, 2013, 10:50:06 pm
This thread was a good read today as i sit in a wet cold England. I was a British immigrant and while I didn’t need to go into the army I volunteered in std 8 at school!  I had a xr250 (old steel tank 1980 model) that I used to ride to school and play on the mine dumps on the weekend.  I ended up in 6 SAI in 1983 and asked to join the bike squad when they asked what we wanted to do.  The corporal told me I was wasting my time as they weren’t taking guys anymore.  Seems like he/they were lying seeing as someone else joined from 6SAI (as mentioned above).  As bikes were all I thought about this was devastating for me and I lost all interest in the army and looked for the easiest time possible after that – got in some trouble too so got shipped off to the border for six months and again for three months after that. This completely changed my life as my long term girlfriend slept with someone else and got pregnant!  Hence a different path in life which brought me back to the UK and I’m still totally immersed in dirt bikes – did a big enduro last Sunday in Wales.
Anyway the reason I’m posting this is: I was in bed reading the thread and my wife looked over and asked what I was reading as she could see the old blurred pics of the bikes.  I explained to her it was the ‘bike squad’ in the army and told her it was my dream at the time to join.  She replied “bloody hell, if you did join you’d still be there now”.  ;D ;D ;D


Jan or july intake????
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: redbikejohn on February 10, 2013, 11:14:31 pm
July - Bravo Company. 
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Casting from Turd on February 12, 2013, 07:48:34 am
July - Bravo Company. 

Me too!!!!! With the PE guys in the bungalow. Not the opmans though the old Bravo bungalows!!!! Had Iverson and the likes in my platoon
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: redbikejohn on February 12, 2013, 10:06:39 am
July - Bravo Company.  

Me too!!!!! With the PE guys in the bungalow. Not the opmans though the old Bravo bungalows!!!! Had Iverson and the likes in my platoon

hell its too long ago now to remember the guys names. i think we were last but one from the end?  yep those crappy old ones!  i remember there were PE guys in the bungalow but more English/Durban guys. i think the PE guys were further along near the front?  Our corporal was killed in a car crash at one point during basic training.  Near the end of basic training i caused a bit of a problem as i refused a punishment drill one night (a sick and tired of taking crap for others) and the sergeant (massive permanent force guy) gave me a bit of a slap about.  I think they were worried what I might say so they offered me anything I wanted.  Seeing as I was nearly though the worst I decided to stay in the army but moved to HQ Company after basic training.  Got into some crap in the township one night, which followed us back to the main gate and kicked off again.  Got declared a fair fight and got shipped out with alpha company for six months then again for three months.
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Casting from Turd on February 12, 2013, 11:35:24 am
July - Bravo Company.  

Me too!!!!! With the PE guys in the bungalow. Not the opmans though the old Bravo bungalows!!!! Had Iverson and the likes in my platoon

hell its too long ago now to remember the guys names. i think we were last but one from the end?  yep those crappy old ones!  i remember there were PE guys in the bungalow but more English/Durban guys. i think the PE guys were further along near the front?  Our corporal was killed in a car crash at one point during basic training.  Near the end of basic training i caused a bit of a problem as i refused a punishment drill one night (a sick and tired of taking crap for others) and the sergeant (massive permanent force guy) gave me a bit of a slap about.  I think they were worried what I might say so they offered me anything I wanted.  Seeing as I was nearly though the worst I decided to stay in the army but moved to HQ Company after basic training.  Got into some crap in the township one night, which followed us back to the main gate and kicked off again.  Got declared a fair fight and got shipped out with alpha company for six months then again for three months.

Holy crap. I was in HQ after jumping off the back of a moving Bedford during Steedlike tuin ops. Fucked my knee up. Did the " Bantu Admin" for a while then sent to Queenstown to be an interpreter on signals etc.

Small world, I remember the "clap" thing though!!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: whitedelight on February 20, 2013, 11:07:05 am
Man , this was a great read!!!!!!!!

I remember the SADF having a motocross team in the early 80's.... They always used an army tent in the pits!!!!!

If I recall correctly, David van der Merwe was one of the guys that raced for the team while doing national service.
And Peter Hills as well.....

Also had a good friend (Guy Ladeira) who raced with me that served in the demonstration bike squad in '82 and '83.... Needless to say he was the clown!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D



Peter Hill became a factory works rider after the army,was pretty good as well. He is a member of our Harley club in cape town. Still rides offroad and DS. Great guy. :thumleft:

Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Airguitar on May 14, 2013, 05:42:07 pm
These pics got posted on my XR500 build thread, but they definitely belong on here:-
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/bikesquadfullflight.jpg/)


(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9864/bikesquadfullflight2.jpg)

Apparently photos from a SADF demo for the British army..
These boys kicked ass!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Airguitar on May 14, 2013, 05:44:23 pm
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3545/bikesquadfullflight.jpg)
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: ALLEN I on September 15, 2013, 12:15:03 am
bloody marvelous. memories. it brings back the good and the bad. photos a thing to share.good one
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: dassie on September 15, 2013, 10:24:20 am
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3545/bikesquadfullflight.jpg)

That is a greeaaat fotie.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: CUZZY on April 13, 2014, 05:05:03 pm
Fantastic! Just read this for the first time. Some great pics and anecdotes. I was with Bike Squad platoon 6 and 7 July 79 to June 81. Partick Devy and I were up on the border at the same time. I did hear from who I now gather is Patrick's boet a few years ago about doing a book. Where can I buy 1? I am still in contact with a number of the guys. I still ride , a red XR 650 not a brown XR500!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: ThomasT on May 28, 2014, 02:08:13 pm
Just finished reading this thread and must say there are many names I recall,

I was Demo Team in 87 and 88.

The guys crushed by the Samil was Nick Stubbs in happened in 86 and I think it was at Eshowe not Durban.

His cousin was with me in 87 and 88.

I have posted a few pics in the military section as welll as the Swap was our Traction thread.

Will scrounge out one or two more and post them here.

We did the Durban Tatoo in 87 with Patrick Devy as our Lt. We had to meet him at Magoos every day at two so that he could make sure where sober and capable of riding  >:D
 
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: opesinorbit on October 01, 2015, 11:17:48 am
Hi Whethefakawe

Is your book project still going forward?

Please continue with this, it's an amazing story.

I'd be happy to administer a website for you mahala.

Keep riding...braaaap!
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: 1ougat on October 01, 2015, 11:54:11 am
What happened to the photos in the original post?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Whethefakawe on October 06, 2015, 12:46:59 pm
Fantastic! Just read this for the first time. Some great pics and anecdotes. I was with Bike Squad platoon 6 and 7 July 79 to June 81. Partick Devy and I were up on the border at the same time. I did hear from who I now gather is Patrick's boet a few years ago about doing a book. Where can I buy 1? I am still in contact with a number of the guys. I still ride , a red XR 650 not a brown XR500!

Hello Cuzzy,

That "boet' would be me, Pat's brother-from-another-mother  :biggrin:

Still sitting on the manuscript, set up a publishing company LLC recently so if I can get off my KTM..... :biggrin:

I do have a XR 650 though, (and four 500's, including a bigwheel) it's in Joburg......getting that shipped to my current domicile soon  :biggrin:

Please get in touch, I'd love to chat.

Cheers

Yuri
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Fermoer on December 15, 2016, 10:04:30 am
Jis ek lees die nou net ma die fotos werk nie meer nie, laai hulle weer op please man!


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Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: CUZZY on October 28, 2017, 09:30:37 am
Just went through all this again! Whatever happened to 'the book" ?
Title: Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
Post by: Rbacknz on January 19, 2018, 05:17:29 am
MAYBE, Yuri is enjoying himself so much in “Trump Land”  that he has forgotten about the book.   :biggrin: