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Title: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Smidty on December 08, 2009, 03:57:16 pm
Anybody know about his?

Apparantly 2 people killed
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Post by: Panne on December 08, 2009, 03:59:12 pm
Ping chrisL.
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Post by: DUSTRIDERS on December 08, 2009, 04:03:12 pm
Just heard about it meself.
Both dead.
Grapevine says both were not wearing helmets.
Sad!!
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Post by: DirtRebell on December 08, 2009, 04:03:41 pm
Francois?
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Smidty on December 08, 2009, 04:40:15 pm
WD members?

Very sad when people die, wearing helmets or not. :'(
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Post by: Trailrider on December 08, 2009, 04:54:46 pm
Francois?

Shit no hope not!
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Post by: ShaunF on December 08, 2009, 04:57:51 pm
I agree, I would hope us WD would no better than to ride without Helmuts.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on December 08, 2009, 05:27:39 pm
Nee nie Francois. Mosselbaai mense blykbaar.
Rider in Bayview hospitaal oorlede en vroulike pillion op die toneel.
Spoke to Francios. Apparently bike was a 990.
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Post by: Brink on December 08, 2009, 05:37:03 pm
Sad news :'( R.I.P x 2
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Post by: DUSTRIDERS on December 08, 2009, 05:39:54 pm
Francois says the rider worked as a manager at the casino in Mosselbay.
Agent Orange works there.
Spoke to someone at the casino.
It seems we have lost another WD this year..... :(
RIP Agent Orange.
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Post by: Trailrider on December 08, 2009, 05:49:02 pm
Francois says the rider worked as a manager at the casino in George.
Agent Orange works there.
Hope its not him.

Was thinking the same thing? What happened?
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Post by: Sir Rat on December 08, 2009, 06:01:35 pm
R.I.P  :'(
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Post by: Yami Super 10 on December 08, 2009, 06:05:24 pm
R.I.P X 2
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Post by: Hondsekierie on December 08, 2009, 06:14:44 pm
OMG this is beyond sad - absolutely terrible :'(

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Post by: Frannarossi on December 08, 2009, 06:52:12 pm
They had too much to drink.The guy wanted to take a girl for a spin just after 2 this morning.When she didn't want to get onto the bike,her friend wanted to go with and when they told het she should put on a helmet that was in the one guy's car,she apparently didn't want to.He wore a helmet as far as i know,but even that didn't help.The bike took out a chevron board from the side (I think he wheelied into the board because there's no brake marks on the gravel either).
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Post by: Trailrider on December 08, 2009, 06:55:19 pm
Shit. That's bad.

RIP
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Post by: Pistonpete on December 08, 2009, 06:56:16 pm
RIP x2.
I'm sad but a little angry to.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Trailrider on December 08, 2009, 06:59:17 pm
Francois says the rider worked as a manager at the casino in George.
Agent Orange works there.
Spoke to someone at the casino.
It seems we have lost another WD this year..... :(
RIP Agent Orange.

Ag no!!! Only saw this edit now. :'(

RIP A.O.

(http://media6.dropshots.com/photos/507043/20090826/181548.jpg)
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Pistonpete on December 08, 2009, 07:01:00 pm
Francois says the rider worked as a manager at the casino in George.
Agent Orange works there.
Spoke to someone at the casino.
It seems we have lost another WD this year..... :(
RIP Agent Orange.

Ag no!!! Only saw this edit now. :'(

RIP A.O.

(http://media6.dropshots.com/photos/507043/20090826/181548.jpg)
Nooo....i dont believe it was him! Good guy
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Trailrider on December 08, 2009, 07:04:00 pm

Nooo....i dont believe it was him! Good guy


I am sitting here shocked...
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Post by: JVR on December 08, 2009, 07:15:39 pm
Sad news   R.I.P
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Post by: Smidty on December 08, 2009, 07:28:57 pm
 :'(   RIP


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Post by: Smithey on December 08, 2009, 07:34:13 pm
Sad news.

RIP
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Post by: eikeboom on December 08, 2009, 08:19:56 pm
Ride safely guys
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Post by: whitedelight on December 08, 2009, 08:27:22 pm
That sucks..... :o :o RIP.Please guys be careful out there.Friends do not let friends ride bikes after they have been drinking.....
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Post by: Beagle Boy on December 08, 2009, 08:41:56 pm
Please guys be careful out there.Friends do not let friends ride bikes after they have been drinking.....
+1 , shocking and upsetting news .....

RIP x2
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Post by: Kat on December 08, 2009, 09:19:13 pm
R.I.P
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: edgy on December 08, 2009, 09:20:43 pm
Stupid!...but rest in peace! :'(
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Post by: Hondsiff Honda on December 08, 2009, 09:28:22 pm
thats really sh!t, accidents happen i guess but total waist of life..RIP
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Trailrider on December 08, 2009, 09:29:28 pm
What has happened is very sad, but lets not judge after the fact please. We did not walk in his shoes. People make mistakes.

He has been having a tough time it seems.


Hi all,

I bought my bike not 3 months ago, and now i have to sell it.

If you are interested, please give me a call before my divorce  :( is final otherwise i may lose all of this as well.

Cheers

John



Lets rather learn from the unfortunate event and let him rest in peace.
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Post by: Poffmuis on December 08, 2009, 11:16:40 pm
 :'(  RIP
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Post by: Marnus on December 09, 2009, 12:05:36 am
Flippit! Hierdie jaar moet nou klaarkry.  Genoeg verdriet.  Jammer om te hoor  :'(
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Yefimovich˛ on December 09, 2009, 01:06:50 am
Dammit!

How incredibly sad, regardless of circumstances.

RIP!
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Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 09, 2009, 02:50:58 am
RIP :(  So sad.

Trailrider, can you confirm this really Agent Orange?

Does anyone know about the funeral arrangements? It would be great if some dogs could make it.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Airborne on December 09, 2009, 05:55:43 am
R.I.P   :'(
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Post by: Apie on December 09, 2009, 08:22:58 am
Dit is regtig tragies en totaal onnodig.
Ek is van Mosselbaai, as iemand kan uitvind van reelings kan ons miskien paar mense bymekaar maak.
Het nie die persoon geken nie,maar sal graag iets wil doen indien moontlik.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Dusty on December 09, 2009, 08:54:08 am
I am very sad to hear this.  R.I.P x 2
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Post by: Kykdaar on December 09, 2009, 11:02:27 am
Eish.......what a bad year. RIP
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Post by: Trailrider on December 09, 2009, 11:11:10 am
Seems it is Agent Orange yes.

Piston Pete that guy on the Photo is not A.O. That's Flatspin. All you KTM okes look the same. I mixed them up as both are on 990's and from M/bay. Sorry about the mixup. Wrong pic.

Still A.O. though. RIP.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: KiLRoy on December 09, 2009, 11:15:45 am
Sad news, RIP...
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Post by: mountainboy on December 09, 2009, 11:18:30 am
RIP brother and sister

too sad............
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Post by: TornadoF5 on December 09, 2009, 11:26:04 am
My heart felt condolences to the family and friends.
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Post by: ChristoffGS on December 09, 2009, 12:05:49 pm
RIP
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Post by: Milkybar on December 09, 2009, 12:12:15 pm
RIP!
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Post by: Lourens ツ on December 09, 2009, 12:16:37 pm
RIP  :(

Agent Orange's signature:

Far better it is to dare mighty things, even though chequered by failure, than to forever dwell in that perpetual light that knows not victory nor defeat!
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: redtiger on December 09, 2009, 01:00:31 pm
RIP X 2, Kak one, warning to all of us over festive season keep it real but keep it safe.
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Post by: Laban on December 09, 2009, 01:10:32 pm

Ride the skyways RIP.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: bmad on December 09, 2009, 01:46:19 pm
Very tragic and unnecessary  :'(

RIP and all condolences to the families
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: roxenz on December 09, 2009, 03:24:58 pm
Terrible news - the deaths and the way.  RIP AO and condolences to all who knew them.
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Post by: lemac on December 09, 2009, 03:35:21 pm
RIP AO. Sad to hear!!!
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Post by: Baches on December 09, 2009, 03:49:55 pm
Het netnou met 'n verpleegster gepraat wat die ou gesien het. Hy het nie 'n helmet gedra nie. Hulle altwee het massiewe kop beserings gehad. Die meisie wat oorlede is se ma het 'n kleuterskool op Stilbaai. Is erg om jou kind op so 'n manier en so naby kersfees te verloor. RIP.
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on December 09, 2009, 03:50:53 pm
As stated by TR, I can confirm that Agent Orange is not the guy in the picture. That is FlatSpin whom I just (like in 20 minutes ago) had a ride with to George.

Had an invite to do a trip with AO a couple of weeks ago, but couldnt make it. My Lady works at the hospital, I'll see what I can find out.

Sincere condolences.
RIP
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Varadero on December 09, 2009, 03:52:50 pm
This is just way too crazy and so sad.  RIP
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Post by: Road Rage on December 09, 2009, 04:15:53 pm
R.I.P
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Eisbein on December 09, 2009, 04:17:09 pm
Very very sad.

:(

 
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Post by: RobC on December 09, 2009, 04:30:36 pm
So sad and uneccessary, condolences to family and friends.
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Post by: JamesXRV on December 09, 2009, 04:33:44 pm
A guy got killed at the Hooligans' fun day on Saturday, also not wearing a helmet.
All very sad and tragic, a lesson to us all.
Condolences to friends & family.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on December 09, 2009, 04:35:05 pm
Saw the bike this morning.
Brand new and now it is all broken and bent.
Sad my friends. Very sad :'(
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Chrispy on December 09, 2009, 04:36:09 pm
Hi all,
To confirm AO was tragically killed in an accident this week. He was a good friend and we did a few trips together. The passenger was killed instantly and AO died later in hospital, no helmets were worn. At this stage not much more is known (incl by the police) - tragedy for all involved, please pay your respects by wearing helmets and riding safely.
RIP buddy
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on December 09, 2009, 04:37:35 pm
Crispy, sounds like you are close? Wanna let us in on the funeral arrangement so we we can do a ride?
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Post by: Chrispy on December 09, 2009, 04:41:03 pm
Family in PE on the way, will let you know.
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Post by: ZAR on December 09, 2009, 05:02:26 pm
Dit is so hartseer en onnodig.....   :'(

Rus in Vrede.

Sterkte aan die wat agter bly. 
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Post by: KobusL on December 09, 2009, 05:06:12 pm
Sad to hear reagrdless of how it happened.
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Post by: XRV-Boy on December 09, 2009, 06:19:27 pm
Realy sad mews, rest in peace
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Post by: JourneyMan on December 09, 2009, 06:27:24 pm
RIP x2.
I'm sad but a little angry to.

Same here.

Leave the show off's on bikes when intoxicated to the odd tire burnout on bar counters. Enough said.

RIP. Always sad no matter how it happened. Strength to family and friends.

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Post by: Leo on December 09, 2009, 07:31:06 pm
RIP
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Post by: Fudmucker on December 09, 2009, 07:39:27 pm
 :-\
Sadly, Booze and Barks don't mix well.
One or the other, guys.

R.I.P. brother and sister.

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Post by: Mother on December 09, 2009, 07:45:46 pm
so bad this...so suddenly ....one minute u here then u not... :o ....my condolences to the family and friends
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Post by: Hondsekierie on December 10, 2009, 06:43:26 am
Even though I never met AO i can't stop thinking about this thread - it's all so senseless :xxbah:
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Post by: Elmo on December 10, 2009, 07:00:15 am
Even though I never met AO i can't stop thinking about this thread - it's all so senseless :xxbah:

Same, .... very sad news   :(
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Post by: CHorse on December 10, 2009, 07:45:48 am
Very sad to hear.     RIP
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Post by: Kaptein Bos on December 10, 2009, 07:50:40 am
What scares me the most is having to go when intoxicated...  It's almost like an intoxicated person committing suicide...  Which happened to a friend of mine....  Do you know what you doing?  Obviously semi...  But sh!t it sucks >:(
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Berm_Rooster on December 10, 2009, 08:33:01 am
I see a lot of assumptions being made and dont quite know whether it is the right thing to do. I heard last night that the accident happened on the N2. Why would someone not wear a helmet while travelling from one point to another? Was it really a case of fooling around on the bike?

Is there anyone who can give us the correct information of what happened where?
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Post by: DUSTRIDERS on December 10, 2009, 08:46:11 am
Not on the N2 BR.
In Stillbay town itself.
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Post by: Battlestar on December 10, 2009, 08:51:00 am
Dam  :'(
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on December 10, 2009, 09:12:16 am
Not on the N2 BR.
In Stillbay town itself.

OK.

Point is that there is too many rumours dong the rounds.
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Post by: Eisbein on December 10, 2009, 09:16:27 am
Not on the N2 BR.
In Stillbay town itself.

OK.

Point is that there is too many rumours dong the rounds.

+10

The how and why at this stage isn't as important as the fact that it did happen.

Strength to the family.
:(
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Post by: Falcon on December 10, 2009, 10:24:44 am
I never met AO. Very very sad though to hear this.
Will be praying for the loved ones who have to deal with their loss.
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Post by: Would I? on December 10, 2009, 11:11:19 am
Rip. Very Sad.
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Post by: Ama ride ride on December 10, 2009, 11:12:02 am
R.I.P
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Post by: Smidty on December 11, 2009, 06:00:18 am
Chrispie   Any news?

Are we going to do a ride?
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Post by: neil123 on December 11, 2009, 07:23:05 am
P. I. P.

All the best the the family

 :( :( :(
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Post by: Tweets on December 11, 2009, 10:08:02 am
Sad :( :(
May AO ride the goldern trails in heaven for ever
RIP
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Post by: cracklin on December 11, 2009, 11:56:45 am
RIP and very very sad.

There is much speculation as to the cause of the accident however it will not alter this tragedy.

AO's mother, Rose, is a family friend and part of the local community where I stay. Not an easy time for her but we are all here for her now and in the future.
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Post by: Frog on December 11, 2009, 12:09:39 pm
RIP and strength to the family members that are left behind.
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Post by: N[]vA on December 11, 2009, 12:11:57 pm
RIP
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Post by: Jim on December 11, 2009, 12:20:49 pm
RIP
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Post by: serf on December 11, 2009, 02:04:57 pm
R.I.P.
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Post by: gonedown on December 12, 2009, 09:55:44 am
Some information from the TB forum from someone who spoke to the family:

Quote:

 Stilbaai accident 8 Dec 2009

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With reference to my post Ryer en pillion op Stilbaai on 9 Dec, I obtained the following information from Claudia's parents. This post is not to be seen as an apportionment of blame but rather as a warning to how easily and quickly things can go very wrong and end in tragedy. I spoke to Claudia's parents on the evening of 9 Dec and her dad requested me to post the details.

Claudia and the rider (Agent Orange from Mossel Bay according to the WD forum) were in a pub in Stilbaai on Monday night. Apparently he wasn't much of a drinker but he had at least 2 brandies and a couple of shooters that night. Claudia also had a few drinks and according to her dad she was a bit of a speed freak. They also haven't known each other before.

At some stage in the early hours of Tuesday morning he took his bike keys to go and show her his bike, a fairly new KTM 990. The idea was only to show her the bike and they didn't take helmets or any other form of ATGATT. Nobody heard them leaving with the bike either, but there was a black rubber mark on the tar where the bike was parked.

Estimates are that they hit a chevron at about 200 km/h. The chevron was taken out of the ground with it's pole. The bike must have ramped from there and finally came to rest about 25m further towards the river. Their bodies were about another 25m further on.

They both had severe head wounds. Claudia must have died on impact, the rider later in the Bayview clinic in Mossel bay.

Basic TB guidelines that weren't followed:

* Bottle and throttle don't mix
* ATGATT
* Ride at a safe speed

and something often seen on the forum, perhaps a bit harsh under the circumstances:

* If you show off you are going to fall off

Other possible contributing factors:

* The rider had only a learner's licence (rumour however has it that he has been riding for a while without a licence)
* The learner's licence was issued on 13 Aug 2009, thus very recently.
* The KTM was almost brand new, so the rider may perhaps not have been completely familiar with the bike

As a matter of interest, Claudia's dad used to ride regularly (commuting about 42 km) until recently when he sold his bike and she used to ride only with him.
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Post by: Trailrider on December 12, 2009, 10:03:00 am
Sjoe.
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Post by: Stoetbul on December 12, 2009, 11:00:42 am
Always sad to hear these things.
My thoughts go  out to the respective families.
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Post by: ETS on December 12, 2009, 11:20:41 am
Live and learn and live.....................
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Post by: BoJangels on December 12, 2009, 11:59:16 am
terrible.....
RIP and condolences to the family  :'( :'(
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Post by: nick-fish on December 12, 2009, 12:55:03 pm
R.I.P
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Post by: jenn on December 12, 2009, 01:27:13 pm
sterkte aan die familie en mag hulle berusting vind.
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Post by: Pure-orange on December 13, 2009, 12:43:38 pm
R.I.P.
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Post by: igundwane on December 13, 2009, 05:42:54 pm
As so many of you have said, this is really sad and whatever happened out there is past and we can't change it but we can each learn from it. We have all made it OUR choice to ride bikes and we know that something similar could happen to any one of us at any time - it comes with the territory! So, lets wear our helmets and the other gear available to us and most importantly, let Jesus be your saviour and friend.
My humblest condolences to both families.
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on December 13, 2009, 06:20:40 pm
As so many of you have said, this is really sad and whatever happened out there is past and we can't change it but we can each learn from it. We have all made it OUR choice to ride bikes and we know that something similar could happen to any one of us at any time - it comes with the territory! So, lets wear our helmets and the other gear available to us and most importantly, let Jesus be your saviour and friend.
My humblest condolences to both families.

+10
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Post by: Adventure MX on December 13, 2009, 06:31:43 pm
R.I.P  :'(  Very Sad.

Condolences to family & friends.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 13, 2009, 06:43:58 pm
RIP

eish , this is a bad one.
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: Jaymoer on December 13, 2009, 07:14:14 pm
R.I.P

Thinking of the Familes
Title: Re: Bike accident in Stilbaai?
Post by: cracklin on December 14, 2009, 08:54:26 am
The service for John (AO) will be held at:

St. Peters Roman Catholic Church
The Strand
Swartkops
Port Elizabeth

Wednesday , 16 December 2009  at 13h00
Title: Stilbaai accident
Post by: Berm_Rooster on December 14, 2009, 08:44:14 pm
Damn, I wont be able to make that. If the family allows, Im sure there will be some PE dogs who wont mind a ride in honor.
Title: Re: Stilbaai accident
Post by: cracklin on December 14, 2009, 09:34:43 pm
Damn, I wont be able to make that. If the family allows, Im sure there will be some PE dogs who wont mind a ride in honor.

The family would certainly not mind and IMHO would be touched by it