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Title: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 16, 2010, 08:56:36 pm
Hello fellow riders. I was refered to Wild Dog bulletin board by ADVRIDER and Horizon's Unlimited. As the title states, my wife and I are traveling to South Africa for the 2010 World Cup. We are coming from Houston, Texas. We are following team USA for the first round and hopefully the 2nd round! We are so excited to visit your country.

I've been adicted to adventure riding for years now. In the past we've had a lot of help from ADVRIDER and Horizon's unlimited on previous moto trips. So I thought I'd try Wild dog for some assistance.

So far we've purchased our airline and match tickets. We are traveling on June 5th and returning on July 4th. We are looking for some help with finding a motorcycle and lodging. Our basic idea is to find a "home base" and travel around the country by motorcycle when not watching matches. The USA is playing games in Johannesburg, Rustenburg and Pretoria. To my understanding they are all relatively close by, especially compared to Cape Town.

The Bike:
I've done some preliminary research on shipping, renting and purchasing a motorcycle in SA. I've narrowed it down to either purchasing or renting a motorcycle. To be honest I prefer to purchase a bike with an agreement for buy back. I'm looking for something 600cc or larger with passenger pegs. I'm not really brand loyal, but do prefer japanese only because that's what I'm familiar with. It can be a dual sport or sport tourer. Since we will only be in the country for 1 month, size and comfort can be comprimised a bit. For example, the furthest trip we may take is to Durban.

Any recommendations on who to contact for something like this? I'd like to start the conversation early.

Lodging:
Anyone want to host a fellow adventure rider or know someone who may want to host? We would like to find a "home base" near the Jo-berg or Pretoria areas. We will pay a monthly rent for a single room in a family home. We are traveling on June 5th and returning on July 4th 2010. Looking FWD to meet some South Africans folk and actually get to know them. My wife and I are both professional, laid back types who like to travel. We are both 30 years old. I work in the oil business and she works in environmental consulting. Can share more info with interested parties.

Here's a link my post on ADVRIDER, basically the same info but with some pictures thrown in.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12419887#post12419887

Looking forward to seeing our wonderfull country!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: HVDM on March 16, 2010, 09:10:43 pm
he he I also do environmental consulting as part of our consulting engineering firm. EIAs and EMPs. Im in pretoria. I have a large house and spare rooms. You would be welcome to pop in and stay.

How many days accomodation do you need? Just a few nights between trips? Im not confortable taking money from people. Especially just to stay in something already here and paid for.. Maybe just throw in some meet or whiskey. Its not like you moving in, just a home base while you tour.

Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: BMWPE on March 16, 2010, 09:27:17 pm
a pic of them on advrider
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 16, 2010, 10:27:48 pm
he he I also do environmental consulting as part of our consulting engineering firm. EIAs and EMPs. Im in pretoria. I have a large house and spare rooms. You would be welcome to pop in and stay.

How many days accomodation do you need? Just a few nights between trips? Im not confortable taking money from people. Especially just to stay in something already here and paid for.. Maybe just throw in some meet or whiskey. Its not like you moving in, just a home base while you tour.
We need a place we can stay / sleep off and on during this month period and store our stuff - helmets, soft luggage, boots etc. The USA games are on June 12th, June 18th, June 23rd. We have match tickets for June 26 or June 27th depending on group game outcome. Before the games start, in between games and after June 27th we will be traveling around SA. Don't know where yet on the off days. We are still researching trips consisting of a few days at a time. Our goal is to find a safe and steady place and actually get to know some South Africans, who happen to ride.

We MUST pay rent for our stay, etiher money, food, booze or some combination.

Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.

Thanks for being straight about this.
I'm Mexican American and my wife is White. Now what does that mean to you? I guess you could say I have Spanish and American Indian blood in me. I have olive colored skin. Here's a link to a photo of me
http://tunastuna.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/A-moto-Christmas-in-Mexico/1002327/450778626_KpAPE-M.jpg

I can share more information via PM or email if you want.
Thanks so much for replying!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Manic on March 16, 2010, 10:51:16 pm
We have lotsa places to ride here, after all it is Africa!!  :thumleft:

Awesome scenery, lovely gravel roads. You guys will love it here.

I can see in the end you will skip the soccer games and just ride and ride  :imaposer:  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Robski on March 16, 2010, 10:51:47 pm
Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.


Wow, thats a little embarrassing... but each to their own I guess?...  :-\
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Manic on March 16, 2010, 10:55:03 pm
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             To be honest I prefer to purchase a bike with an agreement for buy back.                     

Don't know if you will be able to pull that off bud. Cheapest way is to rent, believe me!! The money you will loose when selling after a month, will be more than the rental bill I think. Maybe someone can correct me here if I'm wrong.

Maybe a WD member on here has a second bike they will rent out? Don't know, worth a try?
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Manic on March 16, 2010, 10:56:08 pm
Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.


Thats a little embarrassing... but each to their own I guess...  :-\

Maybe, but let it slide. If this turns into a R&P thread it will be even more embarrasing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Robski on March 16, 2010, 10:58:24 pm
Should I delete to keep the peace?
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: HeadNorth on March 16, 2010, 11:29:21 pm
Welcome in advance to our country!! I am in Nelspruit, awesome area for riding, stunning mountain passes and close to Kruger Park. I have a vacant garden cottage on my property. You are welcome to stay here, be glad to show you some South African hospitality.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Oppad on March 17, 2010, 05:34:29 am
Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.
Thats a little embarrassing... but each to their own I guess...  :-\

I'm afraid the damage has been done. FFS, these are educated, well-travelled people. On the one hand HVDM has to commended for his honesty, if not for his views. I'm afraid that attitudes like this will only serve to entrench perceptions that South Africans and Afrikaners are die-hard racists - even worse, attitudes like this bode nothing good about a future South Africa. Since about December last year this site has become a repository of right-wing views rather than a biking site. I do not feel at home here anymore and will be taking a break for a while.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: fixit on March 17, 2010, 05:44:19 am
Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.


Thats a little embarrassing... but each to their own I guess...  :-\

What!!! FFS!!! What is the bloody difference. HVDM, I cannot believe you said that?????WTF!!!

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: jshump on March 17, 2010, 07:27:59 am
WTF indeed!!!!! :dousing:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 17, 2010, 07:39:14 am
The man is entitles to invite into his home whomever he wishes to .... its his home.

its possibly a tad off colour though
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: GreenMamba1974 on March 17, 2010, 07:51:36 am
he he I also do environmental consulting as part of our consulting engineering firm. EIAs and EMPs. Im in pretoria. I have a large house and spare rooms. You would be welcome to pop in and stay.

How many days accomodation do you need? Just a few nights between trips? Im not confortable taking money from people. Especially just to stay in something already here and paid for.. Maybe just throw in some meet or whiskey. Its not like you moving in, just a home base while you tour.

Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.

bad darts hvdm.  :o
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: michnus on March 17, 2010, 08:01:00 am
Insensitive, sad and really embarrassing.  :-\

To add too Sot's comment, this is not the view and ideology of most white South African's and also of this site.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: HVDM on March 17, 2010, 08:08:06 am
he he I also do environmental consulting as part of our consulting engineering firm. EIAs and EMPs. Im in pretoria. I have a large house and spare rooms. You would be welcome to pop in and stay.

How many days accomodation do you need? Just a few nights between trips? Im not confortable taking money from people. Especially just to stay in something already here and paid for.. Maybe just throw in some meet or whiskey. Its not like you moving in, just a home base while you tour.
We need a place we can stay / sleep off and on during this month period and store our stuff - helmets, soft luggage, boots etc. The USA games are on June 12th, June 18th, June 23rd. We have match tickets for June 26 or June 27th depending on group game outcome. Before the games start, in between games and after June 27th we will be traveling around SA. Don't know where yet on the off days. We are still researching trips consisting of a few days at a time. Our goal is to find a safe and steady place and actually get to know some South Africans, who happen to ride.

We MUST pay rent for our stay, etiher money, food, booze or some combination.

Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.

Thanks for being straight about this.
I'm Mexican American and my wife is White. Now what does that mean to you? I guess you could say I have Spanish and American Indian blood in me. I have olive colored skin. Here's a link to a photo of me
http://tunastuna.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/A-moto-Christmas-in-Mexico/1002327/450778626_KpAPE-M.jpg

I can share more information via PM or email if you want.
Thanks so much for replying!

Ok, then you are welcome. Drop your stuff, stay the nights you need in Pta, make any contribution you feel you need to make. I have an outside room with toilet seperate entrance etc, or you can stay in the main house. Give me notice when you arrive, and if you need transport from the airport etc.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: MaxThePanda on March 17, 2010, 10:07:14 am
Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.
Thats a little embarrassing... but each to their own I guess...  :-\

I'm afraid the damage has been done. FFS, these are educated, well-travelled people. On the one hand HVDM has to commended for his honesty, if not for his views. I'm afraid that attitudes like this will only serve to entrench perceptions that South Africans and Afrikaners are die-hard racists - even worse, attitudes like this bode nothing good about a future South Africa. Since about December last year this site has become a repository of right-wing views rather than a biking site. I do not feel at home here anymore and will be taking a break for a while.

Agreed.

Racist views appear to be in the majority (perhaps just amongst the vocal participants) on this site. International adventure riding sites seem to mostly be populated by open-minded types who are delighted to encounter and explore the world and all its peoples.

Our site, because it's so local, has become a social/friendship space for many of its members, and as such, apparently a free space for expression of offensive (at least to some of us) views. I often think that international riders - not to mention the few black riders who happen by here (and immediately leave) - must be quite shocked by some of what they read.

Personally I'm of the opinion that expressions of racism in any form should be restricted to sordid little braais or AWB forums of some other type. Really, they've got nothing to do with riding a bike, and are quite at odds with SA today, let alone a SA about to host the World Cup. Orania beckons - and the busts of all the old monsters on the hill need a polish!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: espresso on March 17, 2010, 10:30:06 am
WTF indeed!!!!! :dousing:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAargh.
WTF. HVDM keep your racist remarks for amongst your friends - I certainly aren't one of them.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: the_wes on March 17, 2010, 10:47:28 am

Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.

Thanks for being straight about this.
I'm Mexican American and my wife is White. Now what does that mean to you? I guess you could say I have Spanish and American Indian blood in me. I have olive colored skin. Here's a link to a photo of me
http://tunastuna.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/A-moto-Christmas-in-Mexico/1002327/450778626_KpAPE-M.jpg

I can share more information via PM or email if you want.
Thanks so much for replying!

you're very understanding of the issue... that aside though, welcome to SA. Please note, we don't all share this view (in fact from what you've seen as replies on this thread most of us are opposed)

be that as it may, i have 1 question, 1 suggestion and 1 request:

question: will you be visiting cape town at all?
suggestion: organise a dual sport bike
request: see as much of the country, and travel as many far away gravel roads as you possibly can! the real beauty of south africa is neatly tucked away in it's backroads and small towns, and, of course, the cape  :mwink:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Carlos on March 17, 2010, 10:51:41 am
I have a 1 bedroom flat that I rent out as a self-catering unit..if you in Port Elizabeth and need a place let me know and I can keep it for you..otherwise just pop in for a drink :)
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Tagsy on March 17, 2010, 11:05:20 am
Hi Guys
Based in Limpopo, North West 2-3 hours from Pretoria, we have spare rooms etc, if you come this side no problem, PM  if you need anything
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: TC on March 17, 2010, 12:27:49 pm
HVDM
Wow - in today's day and age comments like yours boggle my brain. I feel sorry for your kids being brought up in such a racist manner. Hopefully they will learn that prejudice based on religion / sex  / skin colour etc is a load of BS! I could go off on a tirade for another 10 pages, but I suspect that your beliefs are so deep rooted that you wouldn't pay 2 seconds worth of attention to any logic.
I'm proudly South African, as long as the majority of South Africans are not like you! Moron.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Oetie on March 17, 2010, 06:11:26 pm
I am speechless  ???  :-[
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Iron Shark on March 17, 2010, 06:35:55 pm
Guys get a life... YOU are all entitled to your own views and opinions....

HVDM was man enough to speak his mind and the "Guests" were fine with responding to his comments ....

SO DROP IT NOW PLEASE ...

Go talk race and politics somewhere else!

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Welsh on March 17, 2010, 06:54:53 pm
Only one condition, some may take offence, but then they dont have to come here. Its just my beliefs; You are both white. I raise my kids like that. If not, no offence.
Thats a little embarrassing... but each to their own I guess...  :-\

I'm afraid the damage has been done. FFS, these are educated, well-travelled people. On the one hand HVDM has to commended for his honesty, if not for his views. I'm afraid that attitudes like this will only serve to entrench perceptions that South Africans and Afrikaners are die-hard racists - even worse, attitudes like this bode nothing good about a future South Africa. Since about December last year this site has become a repository of right-wing views rather than a biking site. I do not feel at home here anymore and will be taking a break for a while.

Not all of us Sot, but the technical section has died
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Kaptein Bos on March 17, 2010, 07:03:20 pm
I'm sure there was another way this cat could have been skinned...   
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Manic on March 17, 2010, 07:43:56 pm
Fook I can't believe you guys ran with this.

Nice, fooked up thread, thx agfain to "YES we are allowed to discuss R&P on the forum"  >:D

I so wish that section will dissapear overnight  >:D  >:D

Sick and tired of reading about it, only place were there is NOTHING about it is in the For Sale section  :pot:  :pot:  :pot:

I think he must rather avoid any of us WD members and search overnight place somewhere else, well if I was him I would do that in anycase.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:27:09 pm
I didn't expect my thread would turn out this way. It is puzzling to me.

Anyways,  I didn't know how to respond, but I appreciate his honesty because IF we arrived and didn't meet his criteria to enter his house, then we would have a tremendous problem.  It is his house and I would have to obey his rules if I were to stay there.

I would appreciate it if we can keep the R & P out of this thread. My wife and I really need some help and want to meet fellow adventure riders!

I will respond to each post individually.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:33:31 pm
Don't know if you will be able to pull that off bud. Cheapest way is to rent, believe me!! The money you will loose when selling after a month, will be more than the rental bill I think. Maybe someone can correct me here if I'm wrong.

Maybe a WD member on here has a second bike they will rent out? Don't know, worth a try?

I should clarify, I wa thinking of purchasing a USED bike.

The idea I roughly had, was to purchase the bike (basically a full 100% deposit) use it while we are there, return it to the owner, receiving my deposit back LESS some previously agreed upon amount. In the worst case bike is stolen or damaged beyond repair, the owner has his money. If there is slight damage I pay for repairs. The agreement could include new tires, oil change etc, in exchange for use for this period.

Hopefully I've explained this well enough.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:37:48 pm
Welcome in advance to our country!! I am in Nelspruit, awesome area for riding, stunning mountain passes and close to Kruger Park. I have a vacant garden cottage on my property. You are welcome to stay here, be glad to show you some South African hospitality.

Thank you so much for the offer. I can find Nelspruit on the map, in general to the North West of Johannesburg.

What is the traveling time to Pretoria, Johannesburg and Rustenburg?

The matches we have tickets to are in these cities. Some Matches will end in the evening, so I need to consider traveling at night back to your place.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:42:06 pm
Ok, then you are welcome. Drop your stuff, stay the nights you need in Pta, make any contribution you feel you need to make. I have an outside room with toilet seperate entrance etc, or you can stay in the main house. Give me notice when you arrive, and if you need transport from the airport etc.

I will respond via private message with my email address so we can discuss further.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:49:27 pm
be that as it may, i have 1 question, 1 suggestion and 1 request:

question: will you be visiting cape town at all?
suggestion: organise a dual sport bike
request: see as much of the country, and travel as many far away gravel roads as you possibly can! the real beauty of south Africa is neatly tucked away in it's backroads and small towns, and, of course, the cape  :mwink:

Thanks for responding. My wife and I will try to visit Cape Town, it appears to be very far from the Johannesburg / Pretoria area. We have gap days of roughly 5 days. Is this enough time to travel round trip to Cape Town and actually get a feel for the city.

One of our objectives is to travel on as many gravel roads as possible, that's why I'm here on this website.  I'm originally from New Mexico, which is very rural and high desert area with lots of Mountains. One can travel hundreds of miles on dirt roads without seeing another person. Unfortunately Texas is not like that.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: EtienneXplore on March 17, 2010, 09:50:23 pm
WELCOME !!!!

Ignore some of the shit and dumbass comments above, lets talk bikes and all the AWESOME places to ride and see in SA.

I agree with the_wes, get a Dual Purpose bike, any brand will be fine. KLR650, DR650, 650GS, Transalp, all of these will be more than suitable for your requirements.

With regards to riding places, Gauteng will be a great base to ride from, the only "problem" is that all the really nice places to ride (Mpumalanga, Eastern Freestate, Lesotho, Kwa Zulu Natal etc etc) is between 2 and 4 hours away. But there are some great rides in the areas around PTA/JHB that is great for day rides.

I cannot help with a bike or place to stay, but I can take you on some rides in the areas surrounding Gauteng, even a trip or two to the Eastern Freestate.

Enjoy your time here!

Just remember you will always get the small minority, that share completely different views from the main. I guess you get that everywhere, don't let that upset you or spoil your trip to our amazing country.

 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:53:32 pm
I have a 1 bedroom flat that I rent out as a self-catering unit..if you in Port Elizabeth and need a place let me know and I can keep it for you..otherwise just pop in for a drink :)

We will keep you in mind. My wife and I are thinking of visiting Durban or Port Elizabeth on the coast, especially because Cape Town is so far away from Johannesburg / Pretoria area. I'm thinking travel time to Port Elizabeth is less than Cape Town?

I'm interested in the coast because I work as naval architect. We've had projects stop in Durban before.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 09:57:12 pm
Hi Guys
Based in Limpopo, North West 2-3 hours from Pretoria, we have spare rooms etc, if you come this side no problem, PM  if you need anything

Thanks so much for the offer!

We will keep you in mind. Please understand we are still working out our accomodation and travel details. I'm trying to learn as much as possible about the country. I think I found the "Limpopo" state on the map. Since I'm still getting my bearings, I can't commit right now. We have a few months to work out arrangements.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 10:11:35 pm
WELCOME !!!!

I agree with the_wes, get a Dual Purpose bike, any brand will be fine. KLR650, DR650, 650GS, Transalp, all of these will be more than suitable for your requirements.

With regards to riding places, Gauteng will be a great base to ride from, the only "problem" is that all the really nice places to ride (Mpumalanga, Eastern Freestate, Lesotho, Kwa Zulu Natal etc etc) is between 2 and 4 hours away. But there are some great rides in the areas around PTA/JHB that is great for day rides.

Yes I'm looking for any of those types of bikes to either rent or purchased used from a member here. They would work just fine. In between games, we will have roughly three seperate 5 day gaps to visit some places. The 1st and last days would be travel days, anywhere from a few hours ride away to the entire day. while we are away will need to find a place to stay such as guest house, but most of our stuff would stay at our home base.

I cannot help with a bike or place to stay, but I can take you on some rides in the areas surrounding Gauteng, even a trip or two to the Eastern Freestate.

Enjoy your time here!

 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

We are really looking forward to our trip. We've been losts of places before, but we consider this a trip of a life time. Once we have a home base sorted out and a bike sorted out, we will be asking for information about destinations and routes.
 :ricky:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Manic on March 17, 2010, 10:24:27 pm
SA is not that small as it may appear  :biggrin:

You will have to do alot of planning to go everywhere you want, and still work in your Soccer Matches.

JHB to Cape Town is around 17hours. That is via tar, not gravel. Nonstop riding.
JHB to Durban around 6hours.
JHB to Port Elizabeth 13hours.
JHB to Nelspruit 4 hours.
JHB to Pietersburg 3hours.

There is alot of far off places to see via gravel, but that takes time. So in the end, if your planning is not tip top, you may loose out on some places  :thumleft:

I suggest you decide on two or three areas, and go do a decent ride there. Otherwise you will hop so fast from one place to another to be everywhere you will miss out on alot.

But just ask, we all here will help bud  :thumleft:

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: darkhelmet on March 17, 2010, 10:24:51 pm
Don't know if you will be able to pull that off bud. Cheapest way is to rent, believe me!! The money you will loose when selling after a month, will be more than the rental bill I think. Maybe someone can correct me here if I'm wrong.

Maybe a WD member on here has a second bike they will rent out? Don't know, worth a try?

I should clarify, I wa thinking of purchasing a USED bike.

The idea I roughly had, was to purchase the bike (basically a full 100% deposit) use it while we are there, return it to the owner, receiving my deposit back LESS some previously agreed upon amount. In the worst case bike is stolen or damaged beyond repair, the owner has his money. If there is slight damage I pay for repairs. The agreement could include new tires, oil change etc, in exchange for use for this period.

Hopefully I've explained this well enough.

I think your stay is too short to consider buying a bike.
And riding a bike in some one elses name is what hiring is invented for  ::)
I think that hiring is the best most hassle free option you have

I've had very good experiences with Sama Tours in Pretoria. Prices for 7+ days can be negotiated. They picked me up from the airport and I could leave all the stuff I wanted behind. They are very helpfull, maybe you can send them and email : http://www.samatours.co.za/

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 17, 2010, 11:07:26 pm
I think your stay is too short to consider buying a bike.
And riding a bike in some one elses name is what hiring is invented for  ::)
I think that hiring is the best most hassle free option you have

I've had very good experiences with Sama Tours in Pretoria. Prices for 7+ days can be negotiated. They picked me up from the airport and I could leave all the stuff I wanted behind. They are very helpfull, maybe you can send them and email : http://www.samatours.co.za/

Thank you for the suggestion on Sama Tours. I've seen thier website. Some tour operators and motorcycle hiring companies are using "high" season" rates for the time period during world cup, when normally this is "low season".  I'm still researching my options.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: the_wes on March 17, 2010, 11:10:42 pm
just a suggestion - if you're set on buying, something like a BMW R 80 GS can be bought and sold again fairly easily... (although, not always easy to find)
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: MaxThePanda on March 18, 2010, 05:53:23 am
A bigger bike like a R1200GS is probably best for what you want for 2-up. Why not contact a BMW branch in Joburg and discuss buying a 2nd hand bike with a guaranteed buy-back along the terms you suggested? If there's profit in it for them, I'm sure you can find a deal. And I'm sure that there's loads of people on this forum who can suggest some contacts for that.

Probably the first decision is what kind of bike, and price range and then you can work out the best way to do it...
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: EddieS on March 18, 2010, 09:57:20 am
NMEXPAT I am in Northern KZN, about 160 km from Durban, a town callled Empangeni/Richardsbay. Five to six hours tar from Pta/Jhb. You are more than welcome to stay over at my place for a day or two, if you decide to come this way.

Plenty of good rides around here.

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Rooies on March 18, 2010, 11:43:49 am
Howzit NMEXPAT,

You've probably seen this, but these sights could help with you planning:

http://www.streetmaps.co.za/

http://www.saexplorer.co.za/south-africa/distance/travel_distance_calculator.asp

Regarding lodging, the wife and I live in a small town house with a guest room and seperate bathroom in Johannesburg.  You and your wife are welcome to stay over for a night or two.  Payment will have to be in beers which we will consume while a lekker (you'll have to pick up on the lingo) rump steak is being braaied.

I also think a lot of the Dogs would like to meet you.  Maybe some of the Dogs familiar with the canals can organise a ride?

Cheers,
Roux
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Grumpy on March 18, 2010, 12:22:34 pm
Shocking reflection on South African biking community and South Africans as a whole. I guess it's always the actions of the minority that stuff it up for the majority.

1 x embarrassed South African here.   :xxbah:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: DeonDj on March 18, 2010, 12:32:39 pm
Nmexpat,yes I am in the Eastern Free state,town called Bethlehem, I know that the Mexican sports fans have booked the whole Frontier Inn Casino hotel for two months,a so the Tequila will flow in town,we are looking forward to welcome them in our town,if you come past please feel free to come and have a drink,will have a spare room for you and your wife.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 18, 2010, 04:17:28 pm
:blob7: My wife and I are amazed, but not for the reasons you suspect! :D

We are now presented with a unique and unexpected problem, which you all should be proud of. :mwink:

We have received many PMs and emails from Wild Dog members offering assistance with lodging and with finding a ride.

The offers of HOSPITALITY are truely amazing! Despite the appearance of R & P tension in this thread, we have been welcomed warmly by many Wild Dog members.

You all should be proud of yourselves. South African Riders are representing themselves very well  :thumleft:

My wife and I are digesting all the many offers. We have so much to learn about geography and locations. We will continue to PM and email those we have already contacted us and share more information about ourselves including dates. Just wanted to share the positive news with everyone! :ricky:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Fugly on March 18, 2010, 06:14:35 pm
HVDM
Wow - in today's day and age comments like yours boggle my brain. I feel sorry for your kids being brought up in such a racist manner. Hopefully they will learn that prejudice based on religion / sex  / skin colour etc is a load of BS! I could go off on a tirade for another 10 pages, but I suspect that your beliefs are so deep rooted that you wouldn't pay 2 seconds worth of attention to any logic.
I'm proudly South African, as long as the majority of South Africans are not like you! Moron.

TC go and introduce yourself and go and read what he said and meant and take in context before shooting your mouth off and calling him names.

Becky and Diego, I hope you do enjoy your stay in SA and please don't listen to some of these peoples tirades.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Fugly on March 18, 2010, 06:21:50 pm
Here are Mr and Mrs :thumleft:

Becky
(http://tunastuna.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/A-moto-Christmas-in-Mexico/1002079/450774191_Hy6Mm-XL.jpg)

Diego
(http://tunastuna.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/A-moto-Christmas-in-Mexico/1002393/450778867_yaDwv-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: RobC on March 18, 2010, 06:39:14 pm
NMEXPAT
Looks like you guys have quite a bit of sifting to do as to what offer to take or not... glad the positive is outshining the negative! :thumleft:
If you do happen to be in Bloemfontein there are a few WD's here that will be happy to meet you both as well. Let me know. :ricky:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: IceCreamMan on March 19, 2010, 07:07:41 am
Fanta ?? WTF

Some things we happy to overlook, fanta drinking ,,never
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Hermanator on March 19, 2010, 10:44:33 am
Hi guys,

Sent you an email with some information. We are NOT charging high season rates during world cup. Also, for the distance you'll be riding (two-up) a single cylinder 650 would not be my recommendation.

Check out our VStroms at www.longwaymoto.co.za

Cheers

Lawrence
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: RobC on March 19, 2010, 11:45:25 am
Fanta ?? WTF

Some things we happy to overlook, fanta drinking ,,never
We WILL get hold of him and teach him to drink a proper drink... Zamalek or Windhoek? :imaposer:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 26, 2010, 05:47:55 pm
Fanta ?? WTF

In Mexico, Fanta is given away for free during christmas time by the friendly Coke distributor.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on March 26, 2010, 05:50:04 pm
Becky and I are still trying to digest all the wonderfull offers and learn about South Africa. Good thing we still have a few short months to go! :ricky:

I've been a little slow responding to WD members emails. I'm sorry. I believe I've responded to everyone at least once. If not, please understand I'm slow at this thing.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Thuel on April 04, 2010, 05:57:50 pm
I also have a gap in my World Cup trip when I first get there and wait for friends to arrive.  I'll have time from the morning of June 8th til June 11th to do a little exploring.  It seems like heading towards Lesotho and the Drakensbergs would be a great trip for that time frame, but I'm open.  There just seems to be so much great ground to cover in such little time and it's hard to get an understanding how long things will actually take me.  Any suggestions on loops, places to stop, hikes, or bike rentals would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

J.R.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Rooies on April 04, 2010, 07:25:50 pm
Howzit Thuel, welcome to the forum.

Suggestion - perhaps start your own thread and give us some idea of where you are from, where you'll be staying etc.  Sure many Dogs will like to assist with your planning.   Let's keep this thread dedicated to NMEXPAT's plan.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Thuel on April 05, 2010, 07:10:24 am
Will do, thanks for the welcome!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: McSpafter on April 07, 2010, 12:39:46 pm
Here's an idea... why don't we make arrangements for a central point for everyone to meet! We could have a braai... some drinks (no fanta)... and make acquaintance with Wild dogs! Good opportunity to "kuier"?!?!

McS
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: IceCreamMan on April 07, 2010, 12:48:46 pm
Here's an idea... why don't we make arrangements for a central point for everyone to meet! We could have a braai... some drinks (no fanta)... and make acquaintance with Wild dogs! Good opportunity to "kuier"?!?!

McS


+1 , great idea ....

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on April 08, 2010, 08:27:13 pm
Wife and I are open to a "braai" and meeting Wild Dog members and other international riders. I don't mind discussing this topic in my thread. Doesn't bother me one bit. Glad to know some more riders are coming over for the games!

Can't wait to meet everyone!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: must be... on April 10, 2010, 10:56:51 am
Well, this is awesome, I hope to find more riders who will be using our roads during the world cup... NMEXPAT - What I suggest is what I was advised by adverturer and I will be doing the same.

Once you have planned your routes, and have a solid Itinerary, then best would be to post it in the Planning a ride section, there we can all see where we could maybe hook up for said "braai" & "kuier" plus it's also important so that if you ever run into problems along the way there are always Dogs around to help out.

I will be touring the world cup following the dutch team on the bike throughout the whole tournament so it would be awesome to check out others who are doing similar ventures. Cannot wait!

If anyone wants an idea of our tour, without Itinerary yet... you could always check out the blog - http://bikeworldcup.blogspot.com/ and if we're in the same area at the same time, we'd dig to meet as many Dogs along the way...

 O0
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Tuareg on April 10, 2010, 06:29:25 pm
Diego....
If you decide on Cape Town for a stop over, let me know
We've got a spare room, a view of the mountain & a couple of vuvuzelas
Payment down south is far more sophisticated........ Tequila!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 14, 2010, 01:40:57 pm
If you find yourself in Cape Town and you need a place to stay I have more than enough room, you are more than welcome. You are welcome to PM me your e-mail address if you need to correspond closer to the time. Even if you find yourself here and whatever you planned did'nt work out we will be here even at short notice. I have access to a full bike workshop and spares if you need to do any maintainance.

Muz
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Archangel on April 14, 2010, 02:47:55 pm
I will be touring the world cup following the dutch team on the bike throughout the whole tournament so it would be awesome to check out others who are doing similar ventures. Cannot wait!

Wooohooo! I will also be supporting fellow Dutchmen at their game in Cape Town!

PS. I like the color of their shirts...
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Loka on April 20, 2010, 11:12:07 pm
What's up NMEXPAT! Another Yank... I'm coming out from NYC, checking out a couple of matches as well (Germany vs. Australia in Durban). C U there.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on May 27, 2010, 10:35:28 pm
Just wanted to give an update on Becky's and I World Cup plans.

With the help of so many WD members we have a place to stay in the Joburg area.  :ricky:

We've discussed having a brai and we want to meet the WD members. I'll discuss with our hosts and see what they have in mind. I don't want to over step here.

We've receive offers to stay at other WD members homes. Unfortunately we're not heading out West to Cape town and such, so we can't take them up on their gracious offer. The offers are very much appreciated.

We are just over 1 week away from our departure to SA. We can't wait!

We've finally worked out a tentative plan for the days between matches. Our basic travel plans are for Eastern SA, Kwazulu- Natal, Mpumalanga and Limpopo areas.  There is a chance of traveling to Bloemfontein for a round 16 game. Depends on the group stage.

Any suggestions on where to stay in Rustenburg for the night of June 12th?

I'll list them out our travel plans below, please give me your advice

June 13th - 17th 5 days / 4 nights
St. Lucia / Isimangaliso wetland park area on the East coast

June 19th -22nd 4 days / 3 nights
Hoedspruit area / Kruger Nat. park

June 28th - July 1st 4 days / 3 nights
Drkensburg / Lady Smith area

Who do you guys think?

Mark and Hannalie if your reading this, plese PM me!

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: CaptainCrash on May 28, 2010, 09:35:40 am
There is quite distance between Ladysmith and the Berg. So unless you are staying with some one there I would try and find a place in the Drakensberg there is lots more to see and do there.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: DeepBass9 on May 28, 2010, 09:42:16 am
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Any suggestions on where to stay in Rustenburg for the night of June 12th?

Come stay in Magaliesburg, I am 35km from Rustenburg. PM if interested.


Here's my view  ;D

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Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Beemer Mike on May 28, 2010, 10:37:44 am
Give us a call if I can help with  ANYTHING, even suggest ride routes, etc.

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on May 28, 2010, 09:41:07 pm
There is quite distance between Ladysmith and the Berg. So unless you are staying with some one there I would try and find a place in the Drakensberg there is lots more to see and do there.

Thanks for the advice. I simpy stated Ladysmith since on my map it looks like the biggest village around. Believe it or not trying to find places to stay from the US is quite difficult, names, general location and booking is not as easy for us.

Yes the point is to see the Drakensberg area.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on May 28, 2010, 09:48:26 pm
Come stay in Magaliesburg, I am 35km from Rustenburg. PM if interested.

We would love to but I'm unsure of the logistics.

The game this particular evening USA vs England begins at 8:30pm. Game is 90 minutes, so we won't be leaving untill 10:00pm in a perfect world. Traveling at night on a motorcycle has us concerned. We have a place to stay near Joberg, but have been advised not to travel back at this time at night.

We are trying to find a place closer to town or near the park and ride facilities.

Is this even realisitic?

Without actually having set foot in SA yet, I don't know what to believe.

If you believe FIFA, everythings grand and perfect. If you read other news (even R &P here on WD) things are otherwise. The other media gives us the impression there's a mugger on every corner at night. Not trying to start a R & P thread but explain the dilema of a traveler and reading the various biased news sources.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on May 28, 2010, 09:50:44 pm
Give us a call if I can help with  ANYTHING, even suggest ride routes, etc.

Cheers
Mike

Since we now have a known general idea of where we want to go and when, I've been checking out the other parts of WD. I found the recommended accomodation thread and it was very helpfull.

I'm going to PM some other members who have offered us a place to stay in other parts. so keep an eye out for a PM if you contacted awhile back.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Manic on May 28, 2010, 11:32:51 pm
Like any other Country we also have our more high risk areas. But the places you will overnight, will tell you where to go and where not.

If you go to any game in Soweto, go in and go out. Don't go look at the night life after the game ended at 22h00.

But when you are here, just ask any local peeps about the different risk areas, they will help.

Generally speaking it is safe here, as long as you don't go looking for trouble. Overseas media always makes it 10 times worse than it actually is.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: must be... on May 29, 2010, 10:14:32 am
I love this country, it's beautiful... I went to a rugby match in Soweto for the first time last week, and the locals are so inviting, but I agree, don't go looking for nightlife there after the game, the country will be awake this whole month, so you'll always find a place to be...

I really think the overseas media blows everything out of the water... if it were the way they said, we'd be in the middle of a civil war.

I'm sure you'll love every moment of it! it's just like any other place, it's just that our dirty laundry has been there for everyone to see for years.

Hope to spot you on the road! I'll actually be in the Drakensberg region on the 28th June, I'm sleeping over in Fouriesburg on the 27th... it's one of the most beautiful parts of the country, be sure to plan your route that it passes through the Golden Gate National park... breathtaking!
 O0
13 days to go!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: CaptainCrash on May 31, 2010, 02:29:11 pm
There is quite distance between Ladysmith and the Berg. So unless you are staying with some one there I would try and find a place in the Drakensberg there is lots more to see and do there.

Thanks for the advice. I simpy stated Ladysmith since on my map it looks like the biggest village around. Believe it or not trying to find places to stay from the US is quite difficult, names, general location and booking is not as easy for us.

Yes the point is to see the Drakensberg area.

Thanks again!

No problem there are quite a few sites dedicated to tourism in the Berg area which will give you places to stay and things to do. Here are links to a few:
http://www.drakensberg.org.za/ (http://www.drakensberg.org.za/)
http://www.drakensberg-tourism.com/ (http://www.drakensberg-tourism.com/)
www.drakensberg-accommodation.com/ (http://www.drakensberg-accommodation.com/)

One of the earlier posts mentioned Golden Gate, if you are staying in the Northern Berg it is definitely worth riding through here to Clarens there is some great scenery. 
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on May 31, 2010, 08:50:58 pm
2 places to stay in the Drakensberg area, I have stayed at both & loved them :
cheap , clean, with good food

Fouriesburg Country Inn
http://www.fouriesburgcountryinn.co.za/

Bingelela
http://www.bingelela.co.za/

both extremely biker friendly
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Jakes1 on June 01, 2010, 10:36:29 am
Hi There

You must be excited by now. Well if you decide to come down to cape towm you are more than welcome to stay a night or two at my place. My wife and i live in a town called Paarl and is about 60 km from cape town. You can rent a bike from ktm cape towm. email - jakesdebeer@yahoo.cm

Cheers
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Rooies on June 01, 2010, 03:04:58 pm

The game this particular evening USA vs England begins at 8:30pm. Game is 90 minutes, so we won't be leaving untill 10:00pm in a perfect world. Traveling at night on a motorcycle has us concerned. We have a place to stay near Joberg, but have been advised not to travel back at this time at night.


Agree with your concern.  My wife and I don't travel at night either, especially between towns.  The risk and stress associated is in my opinion not worth it.

I'm glad to see your trip is coming together nicely.  Hope we can meet at the Big Braai.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Casting from Turd on June 02, 2010, 08:37:52 am
Well if any of you are down in the Addo area, we have the Orange Elephant. FREE camping to Wild dog members and tourists :laughing4: on bikes. Pull in and join the fun!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 02, 2010, 09:22:17 pm
I really think the overseas media blows everything out of the water... if it were the way they said, we'd be in the middle of a civil war.

Thanks for replying and letting us know more about the situation in SA. Sometime's my replies and questions to WD members makes me feel like an idiot. At least I know not to believe the media 100%. Thanks for being patient with my questions and concerns.


Hope to spot you on the road! I'll actually be in the Drakensberg region on the 28th June, I'm sleeping over in Fouriesburg on the 27th... it's one of the most beautiful parts of the country, be sure to plan your route that it passes through the Golden Gate National park... breathtaking!

Thanks for the heads up about Golden Gate National park and Fouriesburg. I found it in our atlas. We will look it up on the internet. This is near bethlehem and Lesotho border, right?
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 02, 2010, 09:25:27 pm
No problem there are quite a few sites dedicated to tourism in the Berg area which will give you places to stay and things to do. Here are links to a few:
http://www.drakensberg.org.za/ (http://www.drakensberg.org.za/)
http://www.drakensberg-tourism.com/ (http://www.drakensberg-tourism.com/)
www.drakensberg-accommodation.com/ (http://www.drakensberg-accommodation.com/)

One of the earlier posts mentioned Golden Gate, if you are staying in the Northern Berg it is definitely worth riding through here to Clarens there is some great scenery. 

 :thumleft: Thanks for the websites. I'm checking them out right now. You don't know how helpfull they are for us! For some reason when we internet search we never find the good SA sites. I think it has to do with our IP address in USA that google wants to give us other types of sites.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 02, 2010, 09:28:58 pm
2 places to stay in the Drakensberg area, I have stayed at both & loved them :
cheap , clean, with good food

Fouriesburg Country Inn
http://www.fouriesburgcountryinn.co.za/

Bingelela
http://www.bingelela.co.za/

both extremely biker friendly
WOW! :thumleft: Excellent websites. Very informative. Thanks! Need to show the wife.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 02, 2010, 09:30:01 pm
Hi There

You must be excited by now. Well if you decide to come down to cape towm you are more than welcome to stay a night or two at my place. My wife and i live in a town called Paarl and is about 60 km from cape town. You can rent a bike from ktm cape towm. email - jakesdebeer@yahoo.cm

Cheers

Thanks for the offer Jakes1. Unfortunately we can't make it to Cape town. Thanks for other invitation!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 02, 2010, 09:32:04 pm
Agree with your concern.  My wife and I don't travel at night either, especially between towns.  The risk and stress associated is in my opinion not worth it.

I'm glad to see your trip is coming together nicely.  Hope we can meet at the Big Braai.

Thanks for confirming previous advice. It now looks like we will take a match day bus from Joburg to Rustenburg round trip. Looking forward to meeting!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 02, 2010, 09:35:58 pm
Well if any of you are down in the Addo area, we have the Orange Elephant. FREE camping to Wild dog members and tourists :laughing4: on bikes. Pull in and join the fun!!!!!!!

Addo is near Port Elizibeth? If so we won't be making it near there. Thanks for the invitation!

 :deal: WD members continue to impress with the never ending invitations and warm welcome! Becky and I wish we had more time in SA! :ricky:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on June 04, 2010, 07:41:29 pm
Just had a thought .........
With all this talk of riding round the Drakensberg / Fouriesburg etc - you are aware that it is winter here ?

http://www.southafrica.co.za/weather/
http://www.southafrica.co.za/what-you-need-to-know-about-visiting-south-africa/

I had a mental picture of you both riding through Golden Gate in shorts & a t shirt in the freezing cold
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on June 04, 2010, 09:03:10 pm
Just had a thought .........
With all this talk of riding round the Drakensberg / Fouriesburg etc - you are aware that it is winter here ?

Yes, we're aware that it is winter. We're bringing our winter gear, which in short consist of the following for riding:

1. sock liners
2. wool socks
3. BMW Santiago pants, jackets with liners
4. Wool sweater
5. Long underwear, tops and bottoms
6. Leather gloves & liners.
7. helmet liner.


Sticking to mostly tarmac and not planning on riding any of the high / major passes.

Thanks for thinking of us!!
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Welsh on June 05, 2010, 07:03:32 am
Just had a thought .........
With all this talk of riding round the Drakensberg / Fouriesburg etc - you are aware that it is winter here ?

Yes, we're aware that it is winter. We're bringing our winter gear, which in short consist of the following for riding:

1. sock liners
2. wool socks
3. BMW Santiago pants, jackets with liners
4. Wool sweater
5. Long underwear, tops and bottoms
6. Leather gloves & liners.
7. helmet liner.


Sticking to mostly tarmac and not planning on riding any of the high / major passes.

Thanks for thinking of us!!

yep at dawn each day this week it has been sub zero, but a pleastn 18 to 20 C in the afternoon...see you soon
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Minora on June 14, 2010, 12:27:38 pm
Man I can't wait for your ride report NMEXPAT. . .   :deal:  Please share your experience with us when you return home.

Enjoy every single moment of your stay!!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 14, 2010, 12:50:46 pm
i am going ot be at the usa game on froday afternoon , so if you wanna hook up and have a bud or 2 pm me yr mobile number and i will call u
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Pistol on June 14, 2010, 12:58:54 pm
Man I can't wait for your ride report NMEXPAT. . .   :deal:  Please share your experience with us when you return home.

Enjoy every single moment of your stay!!! :thumleft:

Diego and Becky are staying with me while in JHB, and went to the opening concert - got home at 2am, then went to Eng/USA game in Rustenburg, and got home close to 3am - on a bike!!! Respect!! Say the park and ride is not up to scratch. Currently off to visit another dog in Empangeni till Friday, but sure they will update sometime :thumleft:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: must be... on June 14, 2010, 06:33:05 pm
Man I can't wait for your ride report NMEXPAT. . .   :deal:  Please share your experience with us when you return home.

Enjoy every single moment of your stay!!! :thumleft:

Diego and Becky are staying with me while in JHB, and went to the opening concert - got home at 2am, then went to Eng/USA game in Rustenburg, and got home close to 3am - on a bike!!! Respect!! Say the park and ride is not up to scratch. Currently off to visit another dog in Empangeni till Friday, but sure they will update sometime :thumleft:

Cool stuff Pistol... would dig to meet you Diego and Becky - I live in the area... we leave on Saturday for our 2010 World Cup Bike Tour.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Brink on June 14, 2010, 06:48:48 pm
Would like to have a drink with them Pistol - maybe we can organize get-together at Cesco's???
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Pistol on June 15, 2010, 08:41:25 am
Trying to get the drinks thing together when they return on Friday - Would I has offered his house as a potential BBQ!!! venue.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: must be... on June 15, 2010, 09:43:39 am
Man I can't wait for your ride report NMEXPAT. . .   :deal:  Please share your experience with us when you return home.

Enjoy every single moment of your stay!!! :thumleft:

Diego and Becky are staying with me while in JHB, and went to the opening concert - got home at 2am, then went to Eng/USA game in Rustenburg, and got home close to 3am - on a bike!!! Respect!! Say the park and ride is not up to scratch. Currently off to visit another dog in Empangeni till Friday, but sure they will update sometime :thumleft:

Cool stuff Pistol... would dig to meet you Diego and Becky - I live in the area... we leave on Saturday for our 2010 World Cup Bike Tour.

Plans have changed, we leaving on Friday... maybe we'll see you guys in the Berg round the 28th June... please PM your mobile number if you keen... thanks
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Just Blip It! on June 27, 2010, 06:52:08 pm
Diego here, at just blip it's house. we haven't checked WD while we've been here in SA, we've been going every where having a good time.

Becky and I are having a great time in SA. We've been here nearly three weeks now and it has been fantastic. We've met quite a few Wild dogs, and everyone is so nice. The only thing that has upset us, is the quality of the play by team USA.

Becky and I will be posting as ride report when we return to the USA.

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: RobC on June 27, 2010, 09:15:49 pm
Pity the USA did not make it to Bloem... would have been a blast meeting you guys. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Minora on July 07, 2010, 01:38:30 pm
Come on Diego, the suspense is killing - we want a report  ;)
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on July 09, 2010, 04:18:18 pm
Come on Diego, the suspense is killing - we want a report  ;)

You know the symptoms of an excellent trip? Upon returning and facing the real world at home gives you one huge headache. It hasn't been easy coming to terms that our trip is over. The worst part of the trip, was not riding in below freezing weather but realizing that our new found "Africa disease" will not get a fix soon enough...

Becky and I have made it home safely. In short we had an outstanding trip to South Africa. This was a trip of a lifetime for so many reasons!

We will be posting a ride report at Wild Dogs. We are still sorting through the 2900 photos we took. We're also trying to find time together to put our words down from both perspectives.

Wild Dogs should not only be proud of their members but their entire country.

A ride report is coming please be patient.

Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: dakardrix on July 10, 2010, 12:02:28 am
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Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Fudmucker on July 10, 2010, 05:43:56 am
Come on Diego, the suspense is killing - we want a report  ;)
A ride report is coming please be patient.
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Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: nemodakar on July 10, 2010, 07:20:38 am
Come along now, I'm hanging for the RR.
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: Just Blip It! on July 11, 2010, 10:25:59 pm
Glad you and Becky got home safely.........looking forward to the RR. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Traveling to South Africa for World Cup 2010
Post by: NMEXPAT on July 17, 2010, 06:28:27 pm
Becky and I have began our ride report. It is posted over in ride reports. I've got the first few days covered. More to come! :thumleft: