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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: Etienne2T on April 25, 2010, 04:41:47 pm

Title: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 25, 2010, 04:41:47 pm
Will this carrier work with a proper sized dirtbike?
Would help allot if I dont have to drive with a trailer behind my car

http://www.puzey.co.za/carrier/index.asp
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Pistonpete on April 25, 2010, 04:48:00 pm
Load bearing capacity?
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 25, 2010, 05:04:16 pm
Hurmf, well the bike only weighs 96kg's
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: the_BOBNOB on April 25, 2010, 05:22:54 pm
when did you get a car ???

and if you have not yet - rather get a small bakkie - will be a lot better
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 25, 2010, 05:32:53 pm
when did you get a car ???

Couple of weeks ago,

Like zees one...dont laugh!
(http://www.click-cars.co.uk/333/images/2691737.jpg)
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: the_BOBNOB on April 25, 2010, 05:37:43 pm
i had a clio

great car - only problem you will ever have with it is to sell it again  :peepwall:

and now that i have seen the car - no your idea will not work - ever!

the clio is about 90% plastic and most of it is sheet metal etc - dont think it will be able to carry 100kg like that

rather look at a single bike trailer - almost like this one below

(http://www.trailerworksinc.com/images/single.jpg)
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 25, 2010, 05:40:19 pm
i had a clio

great car - only problem you will ever have with it is to sell it again  :peepwall:

and now that i have seen the car - no your idea will not work - ever!

the clio is about 90% plastic and most of it is sheet metal etc - dont think it will be able to carry 100kg like that

rather look at a single bike trailer - almost like this one below

(http://www.trailerworksinc.com/images/single.jpg)

I got a two bike trailor with the car, but a rack like this would be more practical.
Might work on the trials bike.....

Seems the clio would do a permanent wheelie then with a bike on the tow hitch ;D :D
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 25, 2010, 05:41:14 pm
i had a clio

Dammit! I knew it was a girly car...now it's been confirmed..


:peepwall:
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: RobC on April 26, 2010, 12:02:57 am
You need a tow bar fitted to the Clio first... that rack mounts on the tow bar afaik. Should be able to carry at least 100kg.
What are the specs from Puzey?
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Poffmuis on April 26, 2010, 02:08:13 am
Jy besef dit is n pitbike wat agter op daai kar is?? ek dink nie dit is bedoel vir n vol grootte fiets nie
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Billbob on April 26, 2010, 07:04:50 am
The only one I've seen was Ralph Pitchford, of off road racing fame, he had it on the back of a Nissan SUV. Used to load his Husky on it. I don't know if I would trust one and don't think it will work on a dinky car. :imaposer:
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 26, 2010, 08:00:25 am
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Jy besef dit is n pitbike wat agter op daai kar is?? ek dink nie dit is bedoel vir n vol grootte fiets nie

Yep, dis hoekom die heel eerste sin in die topic dit is: ;D

Will this carrier work with a proper sized dirtbike?
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Stirrr on April 26, 2010, 08:47:34 am
No mudguards on that trailer, imagine the stone chips on the back of the car, never mind the bike!!!!
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: I&horse on April 26, 2010, 08:58:41 am
No mudguards on that trailer, imagine the stone chips on the back of the car, never mind the bike!!!!

Exactly!!!

Etienne, if you have a trailer use it, I use mine a lot and I should have done so yesterday as I ran out of juice 5 odd km from home >:(
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 26, 2010, 09:01:27 am
No mudguards on that trailer, imagine the stone chips on the back of the car, never mind the bike!!!!

Exactly!!!

Etienne, if you have a trailer use it, I use mine a lot and I should have done so yesterday as I ran out of juice 5 odd km from home >:(

Did you have to push the bike back?
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: I&horse on April 26, 2010, 09:06:23 am
No mudguards on that trailer, imagine the stone chips on the back of the car, never mind the bike!!!!

Exactly!!!

Etienne, if you have a trailer use it, I use mine a lot and I should have done so yesterday as I ran out of juice 5 odd km from home >:(

Did you have to push the bike back?

Yes in sand! Called the wife to bring pre-mix and got karked out for riding alone. :P

To get back to your question, You have to fit a towbar, but the Clio's chassis seems a bit lightweight for that bike rack, especially if you go over lots of bumps, which inevitable happens on SA roads.
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 26, 2010, 09:14:38 am
No mudguards on that trailer, imagine the stone chips on the back of the car, never mind the bike!!!!

Exactly!!!

Etienne, if you have a trailer use it, I use mine a lot and I should have done so yesterday as I ran out of juice 5 odd km from home >:(

Did you have to push the bike back?

Yes in sand! Called the wife to bring pre-mix and got karked out for riding alone. :P

Haha! Ai man, maar ek was verbaas hoe ver jy op daai tenk kon ry!

Sal maar 'n tow-bar aan die mini car sit dan
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Archangel on April 26, 2010, 10:03:22 am
No mudguards on that trailer, imagine the stone chips on the back of the car, never mind the bike!!!!

Exactly!!!

Etienne, if you have a trailer use it, I use mine a lot and I should have done so yesterday as I ran out of juice 5 odd km from home >:(

Did you have to push the bike back?

Yes in sand! Called the wife to bring pre-mix and got karked out for riding alone. :P

Haha! Ai man, maar ek was verbaas hoe ver jy op daai tenk kon ry!

Sal maar 'n tow-bar aan die mini car sit dan

Jy moes maar eerder vir my gebel het...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: lecap on April 27, 2010, 09:05:50 am
Most passenger car towbars are rated for a supported load of 50kg (smaller cars) to 75kg (full size like a Merc.).

That tells you how much load you can carry on any type of rear carrier, although you have to take off the towbar supported load already as the (bicycle) carrier often has considerably more overhang.

Do yourself a favor and drive a car with a heavy trailer for a day and you'll realise quickly that overloaded trailers, roof racks AND rear carriers are NOT funny.
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Tuareg on April 27, 2010, 03:28:00 pm
Etienne.......
I think this is what you're after

(http://img1.wantitall.co.za/images/ShowImage.aspx?ImageId=Hitch-Mounted-MX-Dirt-Bike-Scooter-Carrier|41G9EG25yJL.jpg)

The bike carrier is pretty useful, as well..........
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Tuareg on April 27, 2010, 03:32:51 pm
Check out this South African website
Xrad Trailers (http://www.xrad.co.za/Xrad_Hitchrack_M_Series.htm)

(http://www.xrad.co.za/layout/Xrad_Hitch-Rack_M3_Bike.gif)
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Tuareg on April 27, 2010, 04:18:01 pm
As tested by EnduroWorld
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Etienne2T on April 27, 2010, 04:28:52 pm
:imaposer:

Thats pretty cool lookin
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: TK-Ten on April 28, 2010, 05:01:44 am
The Clio is actually a nice little car . Have you heard that Renault and Toyota decided to merge the Clio and the Auris ?
Guess what the name will be .......... :peepwall: :D :D
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Tuareg on April 28, 2010, 07:14:39 pm
The Clio is actually a nice little car . Have you heard that Renault and Toyota decided to merge the Clio and the Auris ?
Guess what the name will be .......... :peepwall: :D :D

What.....
The Auricle  :mwink:
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on April 28, 2010, 07:36:30 pm
Ettienne, a bud of mine made a rack like that to fit onto the rear of his Landy Defender. Except for the fact that the Landy has a strong enough chassis to handle the stress, it was remarkable haw heavy the rack became by the time it was sturdy enough to hold his old WR426. Not for a small sedan/hatch.
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: runningbear on April 29, 2010, 05:30:52 am
50 kgs on a tow bar, my word i way 130kgs and stoot on the goose neck of a towbar on a citi Golf no problem, i too have been designing this type of mobibar for m/cycles how else do you get you bike anywhere without a trailer or bakkie?
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Kreef on April 29, 2010, 06:14:53 am
Hi Ettienne

Contact Goonrider and get some info on the racks. He made one for his MX bike a few years back.

He has now graciously donated the rack to me so that I can carry the pitbike on it :) Just have to fit the rack to my towbar and then no more petrol smell in my car :) Whoot whoot.

But on a serious note, these racks are heavy. Very heavy. So even without the weight of the bike, their is already quite a load on the towbar. And because the handlebars are quite wide, the bike is placed far to the rear. This places additional stress on the towbar.
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: lecap on April 29, 2010, 06:36:55 am
50 kgs on a tow bar, my word i way 130kgs and stoot on the goose neck of a towbar on a citi Golf no problem, i too have been designing this type of mobibar for m/cycles how else do you get you bike anywhere without a trailer or bakkie?

Try to stand on the towbar for 2500km with locked knees ::) There is a very slight difference between static and dynamic load. About the same as standing on a towbar and studying mechanical engineering :evil6:

Maybe have a look at what happens to your axle loads when attaching a carrier with a 100odd kg bike strapped onto it.
And consider the momentum in roll & jaw the load induces.
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: Captain Zef on May 04, 2010, 07:46:10 pm
i had a clio

Dammit! I knew it was a girly car...now it's been confirmed..


:peepwall:

Its only girly when a girl drives it. When a guy drives it its pretty gay. :D
But everyone needs at least one gay car in their lifetime :)
Title: Re: Will this work?
Post by: runningbear on May 04, 2010, 09:50:26 pm
50 kgs on a tow bar, my word i way 130kgs and stoot on the goose neck of a towbar on a citi Golf no problem, i too have been designing this type of mobibar for m/cycles how else do you get you bike anywhere without a trailer or bakkie?

Try to stand on the towbar for 2500km with locked knees ::) There is a very slight difference between static and dynamic load. About the same as standing on a towbar and studying mechanical engineering :evil6:

All my bikes have got shocks as well as my vehicles so i dont have a problem i have designed light weight high stress metal that can take a load up to 300kgs and made models that i am testing, problems with length of bike as only 300mm may protrude beyond either side of the vehicle carrying it, stone chip, wind resistance to fuel economy and wind noise. Traffic legislations etc. 8)

Maybe have a look at what happens to your axle loads when attaching a carrier with a 100odd kg bike strapped onto it.
And consider the momentum in roll & jaw the load induces.