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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: funacide on June 18, 2010, 06:58:23 pm

Title: Michnus Down !!! and up again, thanks!
Post by: funacide on June 18, 2010, 06:58:23 pm
Just spoke to Michnus's wife, he had an accident this evening on the way to the EC bash....

First off, he seems fine, they are keeping him in hospital tonight for observation but no broken bones or other injuries apparent.

Details are sketchy but seems he lost the front end on a fairly straight piece of road on the N2, his wife went back to the scene afterwards and could not see any oil, diesel or anything else on the road and it seems as if the front may have locked up. Hopefully have more details soon..

The Uvex helmet seems to have done it's job as it is cracked and Michnus is ok...

 
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Post by: GreenMamba1974 on June 18, 2010, 06:59:30 pm
glad he's ok!  strongs michnus!
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Post by: Rooies on June 18, 2010, 07:27:24 pm
Not a good weekend for the dogs. Glad he is okay!

I see a big helmet debate coming up and I, for one, will pay attention.
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Post by: Jerrycan on June 18, 2010, 07:28:27 pm
Should have redirected the ambulance to the bash, could have been observed there instead of hospital! Glad to hear nothing broken man. Ride again soon.
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Post by: boere on June 18, 2010, 07:29:24 pm
Looks like you guys are in competition with one another.

No GO

I am chicken >:D
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Post by: Poffmuis on June 18, 2010, 07:32:23 pm
Hope all is well.  ;)
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Post by: Kaptein Bos on June 18, 2010, 07:32:37 pm
Sad to hear... Get well soon...
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Post by: LeonDude on June 18, 2010, 07:34:02 pm
Shit, this is bad news. What is it with the big guys this week?

Michnus, hope all goes well and you get out soon.
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Post by: DRAZIL on June 18, 2010, 07:42:47 pm
heal and ride soon. :thumleft:
At least you have your own stretcher >:D
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Post by: Welsh on June 18, 2010, 07:45:20 pm
Good job he is also well padded, sort it out quick my mate...
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Post by: bighilt on June 18, 2010, 07:49:30 pm
Get well soon.
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Post by: Brink on June 18, 2010, 07:49:54 pm
Not news that one wants to hear :o

Heal up well and soon Michnus.

Strength to the best halve :thumleft:
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Post by: Jd Dakar on June 18, 2010, 07:53:47 pm
Hi Michnus strongd dog!
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Post by: JVR on June 18, 2010, 07:58:33 pm
Hope he is OK !
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Post by: BMWPE on June 18, 2010, 08:14:31 pm
Sad news  :o
All the best
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Post by: ChrisMann on June 18, 2010, 08:15:35 pm
Hope you ok Michnus.  Bike ok? Want me to look for good secondhand KTM?  ;) :ricky:

 
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Post by: Oetie on June 18, 2010, 08:17:24 pm
Shit!!
Hope your ok!!
 :o
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Post by: Ball and Chain on June 18, 2010, 08:39:22 pm
Hope you ok Michnus.  Bike ok? Want me to look for good secondhand KTM?  ;) :ricky:

 

He's already on a BMW.  The next step is a Harley.

He's anyway to full of shit to get hurt :thumleft:
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Post by: wacko on June 18, 2010, 08:50:42 pm
Sad news hope You are ok
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Post by: Swanniebraai on June 18, 2010, 08:56:36 pm
Sterkte ou grote! Bloudissels kry jy nie onder! Grace! :thumleft:
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Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 18, 2010, 09:01:36 pm
No whats going on with the dogs this weekend!!!
Hope youre out of hospital quick Michnus.
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Post by: Fiellie on June 18, 2010, 09:42:56 pm
Sterkte !!
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Post by: Manic on June 18, 2010, 09:46:16 pm
Sterkte my maat!!

Hoop jy word gou gesond :thumleft:
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Post by: Iron Shark on June 18, 2010, 10:12:47 pm
Get well soon mate, hope you out of hospital real soon!   :thumleft:
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Post by: Fugly on June 18, 2010, 10:16:36 pm
Fok the EC bash is hard core people!

Get well soon Michnus!!!
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Post by: IceCreamMan on June 18, 2010, 10:24:38 pm
Best wishes for a speedy recovery boet ....
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Post by: Crossed-up on June 18, 2010, 10:25:39 pm
Bad one - all the best.
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Post by: Moondog on June 18, 2010, 10:25:47 pm
Strongs Michnus! You guys at the bash take it easy on the way back - enough now!
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Post by: Roné on June 18, 2010, 10:26:49 pm
ag nee fok - hoop jy word gou gesond en maak dit nog tot die Bash - al is dit op 'n geleende bike.....
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Post by: Jacko on June 18, 2010, 10:30:26 pm
Fokkit Michnus. Ek hoop jy's okay.

Want as jy moet doodgaan, gaan ek jou doodbliksem.

Beskou dit as 'n laaste waarskuwing. Intussen moet jy die kak hospitaalkos geniet.
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Post by: LeonDude on June 18, 2010, 10:33:13 pm
Fokkit Michnus. Ek hoop jy's okay.

Want as jy moet doodgaan, gaan ek jou doodbliksem.

Beskou dit as 'n laaste waarskuwing. Intussen moet jy die kak hospitaalkos geniet.
Shame fokkit, daai ou gaan mos honger ly!
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Post by: Fugly on June 18, 2010, 10:34:55 pm
By the way, which hospital?? If in PE please give more detail :thumleft:
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 18, 2010, 10:36:40 pm
Nooit! Dog OK, hows the bike looking?

Sterkte. :thumleft:
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Post by: somewhere-els on June 18, 2010, 11:06:50 pm
'Mrs Michnus' here ...

Thanks for all the wishes.  When I left the hospital just before ten Michnus was doing much better.  He has fortunately no broken bones, but is quite badly bruised and we are a bit worried about his head injury.  Quite a bit of bruising around his hairline and under his hair, were told that the CT scan was fine - hoping to meet with the doctor in the morning.  

It happened SO fast, I need to still try and remember all the detail, but in short, it really just looked like his front wheel locked(??).  We were travelling down the highway, on a straight road only about 10km from home, and just passed a turnoff with traffic all around us. We were not going very fast, was actually 'cruising' behind the cars.  Next thing, Michnus' bike was tumbling into the barriers and he went first flying through the air and then tumbling into the the road.  Quite a bizarre incident.  Hopefully when we see the bike again we can piece it together.

He was passed out for a couple of minutes, and could not recall till he got to the hospital that we were on our way to the bash.  I am so grateful that he is alive.

Thanks for all the support, we will keep you guys updated.
 
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Post by: funacide on June 18, 2010, 11:29:04 pm
Thanks for the update...

Hope all goes well, make sure they look after him otherwise they will have all of us to answer to.

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Post by: JourneyMan on June 18, 2010, 11:50:50 pm
Eish! Glad to hear you are relative OK, Michnus. Vat dit kalm en hoop jy is gou weer op 2 wiele.B-)
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Post by: Eisbein on June 19, 2010, 12:12:32 am
Bliksem this wasn't lekker to hear when metaljockey told us. A bit of a shock. Better now when we heard he wasnt hurt that bad.
Still...
Sterkte Els, hou ons asb op hoogte.
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Post by: bungycool on June 19, 2010, 12:17:23 am
Nooit oke get strong soon and glad hat you are still with us!!
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Post by: TrailBlazer on June 19, 2010, 04:53:05 am
Sorry to hear... strongs Michnus, and heal well
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Post by: edgy on June 19, 2010, 05:31:07 am
Missing you here boet! Get well soon!
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Post by: Tusk on June 19, 2010, 05:47:04 am
 :( :( :(

Was this on the N2 between the Beacon Bay offramp and the NorthEast Expressway onramp at around 2pm? I was on the other side of the highway and saw a police vehicle with its lights on and an emergency vehicle arriving. There was someone on a bike, BMW I think. I just had the horrible feeling it had to be someone on the way to the bash.

Get Well Soon  Michnus
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Post by: TK-Ten on June 19, 2010, 06:04:35 am
Sorry to hear . Get well soon .
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Post by: Gypsybaron on June 19, 2010, 06:14:18 am
Sterkte boet! Maak maar soos ek moes en luister vir die dokters, bly maar vir 'n paar dae van die fiets af as hulle so sê.  :( Watse ATGATT het jy aangehad, en wat is oor van dit? Post pics sodat ons kan sien wat het jou lewe gered  :thumleft:
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Post by: Welsh on June 19, 2010, 06:41:48 am
Waiting..... update please...
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Post by: Marnus on June 19, 2010, 06:52:15 am
Ai tog!  Sorry to hear about the crash and hope you get well soon!

Just focus on getting better now.  No need to worry about your mod responsibilities - we'll take it easy on Wino  >:D

Would be interesting to hear why the bike locked up!  Scary sh!+
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Post by: Groenie on June 19, 2010, 06:55:59 am
Aag nee. Sterkte. Hoop dis net 'n paar blou kolle en 'n knop oppie kop.
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Post by: DeonDj on June 19, 2010, 07:12:26 am
Nie goed,hoop jy word gou beter Michnus!
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Post by: keithk on June 19, 2010, 07:28:41 am
Eishh guys! this does not bode well ride safely when you guys come home, Michnus glad to hear nothing broken get well soon.
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Post by: Pure-orange on June 19, 2010, 07:45:39 am
Get well soon.. :ricky:
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Post by: Adventurer on June 19, 2010, 08:35:09 am
Eish!!! Hope he gets outta horsepital soon (sp deliberate... :biggrin:)
Never good to hear these things, interested to hear how it happened....
Will they have to shave his head to inspect the damage? >:D
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Post by: Fenderbender on June 19, 2010, 08:55:52 am
Sorry to hear Michnus , get well soon . Just glad you're ok .
All the best my friend .
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Post by: letsgofishing on June 19, 2010, 09:03:35 am
Sorry to have to read this.
Hope everything's OK and that you heal soon.
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Post by: Kawasefi on June 19, 2010, 09:06:31 am
Michnus, good to hear you're relatively okay man, take it easy now!
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Post by: Billbob on June 19, 2010, 09:07:25 am
Not nice to hear. Hope you both heal well and quickly. :(
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Post by: JMOL on June 19, 2010, 09:25:15 am
Not nice to read, but sterkte to the family . . .

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Post by: BoJangels on June 19, 2010, 09:27:22 am
ag nee Mics!! glad you are okish, take it easy.
Strongs to you too Els, keep us posted.
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Post by: Ratel on June 19, 2010, 09:31:59 am
Sterkte daar!
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Post by: frogtoe on June 19, 2010, 09:32:25 am
get well soon dude
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Post by: Hentie @ Riders on June 19, 2010, 09:34:57 am
 :o Sterkte my vriend en ek hoop jy is gou weer op die been  :thumleft:  :thumleft:  :thumleft:
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Post by: Blou Zebu on June 19, 2010, 09:50:51 am
Sterkte Michnus. Hoop jy is gou weer op die been en op n fiets!
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Post by: Pickle on June 19, 2010, 10:05:30 am
Flip, another one.  Glad you seem to be OK.  Get better soon.
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Post by: EtienneXplore on June 19, 2010, 10:15:31 am
Ai Ai Ai,

Michnus, word gou beter, hoop jy is sommer gou weer op die bike. Dankie tog dit klink of jy darem OK is, dit kon baie erger gewees het!

 :thumleft:

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Post by: bronzy on June 19, 2010, 10:16:29 am
Sorry to hear, hope you ok  :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Post by: Welsh on June 19, 2010, 10:22:38 am
Elsebie says he is much better, some more X Rays and he can probably go home today.
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Post by: krister on June 19, 2010, 10:25:07 am
Jammer om te hoor, Michnus!   :o Sterkte en hoop jy herstel gou!  :thumleft:
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Post by: Karl on June 19, 2010, 10:43:54 am
Sorry to hear, get well soon!
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Post by: the_BOBNOB on June 19, 2010, 10:46:09 am
ag nee man buddy!

get better soon  :thumleft:

just cause i could not make the bash this year and all this crap - first andy660 and now you  :-\
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Operator on June 19, 2010, 10:52:12 am



It happened SO fast, I need to still try and remember all the detail, but in short, it really just looked like his front wheel locked(??).  We were travelling down the highway, on a straight road only about 10km from home, and just passed a turnoff with traffic all around us. We were not going very fast, was actually 'cruising' behind the cars.  Next thing, Michnus' bike was tumbling into the barriers and he went first flying through the air and then tumbling into the the road.  Quite a bizarre incident.  Hopefully when we see the bike again we can piece it together.



This sounds very similar to the accident that the Afrikaans singer Mattys Roets was involved in on his BMW  :-\
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Post by: Operator on June 19, 2010, 10:54:04 am
Good Luck Michnus............hoop jou pyne verdwyn gou.

In hindsight, one can also say that it could've been worse  ;)
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 19, 2010, 11:03:40 am
Elsebie says he is much better, some more X Rays and he can probably go home to the bash today.

Fixed. :biggrin:
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Post by: Adventurer on June 19, 2010, 11:08:46 am
Elsebie says he is much better, some more X Rays and he can probably go home to the bash today.

Fixed. :biggrin:

Eish!! That would be HARDCORE.... 8)
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Post by: Jacko on June 19, 2010, 11:39:10 am



It happened SO fast, I need to still try and remember all the detail, but in short, it really just looked like his front wheel locked(??).  We were travelling down the highway, on a straight road only about 10km from home, and just passed a turnoff with traffic all around us. We were not going very fast, was actually 'cruising' behind the cars.  Next thing, Michnus' bike was tumbling into the barriers and he went first flying through the air and then tumbling into the the road.  Quite a bizarre incident.  Hopefully when we see the bike again we can piece it together.



This sounds very similar to the accident that the Afrikaans singer Mattys Roets was involved in on his BMW  :-\

Negative. Matthys ran off the road. By his own admission he "probably lost concentration".
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Post by: tok-tokkie on June 19, 2010, 12:10:48 pm
Get better quickly Michnus.

Front brake problem?
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Post by: letsgofishing on June 19, 2010, 12:41:00 pm
Get better quickly Michnus.

Front brake problem?

I would really like to know what happened - really strange.
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Post by: Leftless on June 19, 2010, 12:58:58 pm
Hey, if the dogs carry on like this we’ll hane no one able to attend the year end bash.  We’ll. have to ban the E.C. bash in the futue. 

Strongs Machnus.
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Post by: chopperpilot on June 19, 2010, 01:36:05 pm
Sterkte Michnus! Ons dink aan jou! Word gou gesond! :thumleft:
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Post by: Joyride on June 19, 2010, 02:21:54 pm
Magtag, die ouens val die hele landkaart vol!! :o

Sterkte met die herstel Michnus, fisies sowel as geestelik :thumleft:
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Post by: oo7 on June 19, 2010, 02:35:28 pm
GET WELL SOON BUDDY!!!
  :thumleft:
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Post by: Biza on June 19, 2010, 03:55:16 pm
Glad u OK, get well soon
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Post by: Manic on June 19, 2010, 04:22:49 pm
Bling bling crashbars vir jou volgende my tjom.

Word gou gesond  :thumleft:
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Post by: chicco on June 19, 2010, 04:45:04 pm
sterkte met die herstel, ou bene breek moeilik.... :thumleft:
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Post by: Captain Zef on June 19, 2010, 05:07:45 pm
Sterkte Michnus bly jy is okay.
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Post by: buzzlightyear on June 19, 2010, 06:22:47 pm
Sterkte michnus,  hoop jy herstel spoedig!
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Post by: popipants on June 19, 2010, 06:34:20 pm
Hope all is ok.
Now we will have to send you a postcard from Bots !!!!
We will have a couple of Jameson's on you!!  >:D >:D >:D >:D
 
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Post by: HP FREAK on June 19, 2010, 06:34:51 pm
Sterkte boeta en word gou gesond ,ons kyk uit vir jou op die forum  :thumleft:
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Post by: ZAR on June 19, 2010, 06:55:16 pm
Aai Michnus,

Baie bly om te hoor jy is O.K.  :-\

Hoe voel jy vandag? Jy moet ons asb. laat weet wat het gebeur.

Sterkte en vat dit maar rustig....
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Post by: KiLRoy on June 19, 2010, 07:11:29 pm
Sterkte ou maat - dink aan jou
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Post by: GreenMachine on June 19, 2010, 07:48:10 pm
That's no way to start a bash, hope you feeling better and get well soon. How is the bike ?

Interested to find out what went wrong, that seems very troubling.
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Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on June 19, 2010, 08:13:23 pm
Only saw this right now, so sorry to hear! Everyone else would crash on their way to work, not a jol!! Get well real soon.
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Post by: Icemann on June 19, 2010, 08:38:34 pm
Shit, bly dit klink of jy ok is ou vriend.....   Hoop skade is minimaal! >:(
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Post by: ratrap on June 19, 2010, 08:53:46 pm
get well soon dude

+1
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Post by: funacide on June 19, 2010, 10:58:31 pm
Go the following SMS from Mrs Michnus this afternoon:

"Good News, Michnus is home. Very stiff and sleepy but doing well"

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Post by: madmike999 on June 19, 2010, 11:17:16 pm
cool good news
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Post by: Iron Shark on June 19, 2010, 11:22:35 pm
Go the following SMS from Mrs Michnus this afternoon:

"Good News, Michnus is home. Very stiff and sleepy but doing well"



Excellent news!!!   :thumleft:
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Post by: krister on June 20, 2010, 08:08:01 am
Go the following SMS from Mrs Michnus this afternoon:

"Good News, Michnus is home. Very stiff and sleepy but doing well"



Glad to hear!   :thumleft:
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Post by: Goose on June 20, 2010, 08:10:07 am
Another one.................. ag nee man. Sterkte Michnus.... miskien moet jy maar Kaap toe kom en saam met Andy innie bed kom klim..... julle sal albei baie vinninger recouperate!   :mwink:
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Post by: PinkGoat on June 20, 2010, 08:25:54 am
Not another one!!  :-\

Hope you're back to being 100s soon!!!
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Post by: Mello Yello on June 20, 2010, 08:49:09 am
Sterkte
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Post by: LeonDude on June 20, 2010, 09:46:11 am
Glad to hear Michnus is home, it's a much better place to be than hospital!

Hope you feel much better soon Michnus!  :thumleft:
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Post by: Hakbos on June 20, 2010, 10:12:47 am
Sterkte Michnus en 'n spoedige herstel.
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Post by: TeeJay on June 20, 2010, 10:15:10 am
Sterkte Michnus - hoop jy is gou weer gesond!
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Post by: briv on June 20, 2010, 10:52:49 am
Beterskap ou maat  ;)
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Post by: Watermat on June 20, 2010, 11:28:03 am
Herstel gou Ou Grote
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Post by: TVB on June 20, 2010, 12:29:54 pm
Baie Sterkte en beterskap!!
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Post by: JustBiking on June 20, 2010, 04:41:40 pm
Sorry to hear.... Get well soon  :thumleft:
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Post by: cracklin on June 20, 2010, 05:34:04 pm
Have been out of internet connection for a few days to find this :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Not good news at all but glad to hear that things are on the mend and that you are back home.

Hang in there Michnus
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Post by: Brakenjan on June 20, 2010, 05:36:18 pm
Bliksem, dit was nou 'n groot skrik!!  :eek7:

Bly jy's oraait Mich. Laat weet of ons solank kan begin om vir jou 'n HP2 te soek....  :deal:
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Post by: RobC on June 20, 2010, 05:37:41 pm
Sterkte Michnus! Glad you are home!
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Post by: Stofstreep on June 20, 2010, 05:44:42 pm
Als van die beste M
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Post by: DikZol on June 20, 2010, 06:15:51 pm
Bly jy is OK.  Sterkte!!!
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Post by: Padrone on June 20, 2010, 06:21:25 pm
Sterkte M
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Post by: Grootseun on June 20, 2010, 06:24:23 pm
sterkte michnus.

wys jou net, onkruid vergaan nie  ;) :biggrin:

hoop jy herstel vinnig
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Post by: somewhere-els on June 20, 2010, 06:27:33 pm
Michnus is home!  He is doing a lot better and sends his thanks for all the messages.  He will soon join the debates on helmets, neck braces and bikes.  ::)

The last x-rays that were taken yesterday showed a fracture on his top left rib and a small hemothorax.  The doctor was happy for him to re-coupe at home.  +-6 weeks of taking it easy ...

Here is some pics of his gear.  We will be replacing it with the same!!  They did the job well!

The gloves - only damage to one:
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907211422_ZP3Hk-M.jpg)

The pants - ripped on the pocket exactly where the hip pad should have been ...
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907211136_vh2SK-M.jpg)

The jacket, BMW Traveller:
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907209344_5KrU3-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907209719_bfBBt-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907210813_uvf6e-M.jpg)

The helmet came off the worst, but for sure did the work.  Michnus has not, although he is still on pain tablets, complained of any headaches.  The doctors was amazed that he came off that light.  His reactions and reflexes was almost back to normal within a couple of hours.  The bruising is looking a lot better today.
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907212169_iYdPh-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907211936_QAUxT-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907211682_p4d8w-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907213216_Ho2uc-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907212648_cipBB-M.jpg)
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/907212405_eQN33-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Marnus on June 20, 2010, 06:31:30 pm
One lucky guy!  Thanks to ATGATT!!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: JourneyMan on June 20, 2010, 06:31:32 pm
Eish! :eek7:

ATGATT rules!

At what speed did this accident happen?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: LeonDude on June 20, 2010, 06:49:20 pm
+1 on the ATGATT, without it that would have been a much more serious incident.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: tok-tokkie on June 20, 2010, 06:54:37 pm
They were in traffic so 60kph (big ? mark as that is all i know).  That Uvex certainly broke up a lot.  I assume it takes a lot of energy to break it like that = energy that would have been transmitted to his skull if it had not broken.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: krister on June 20, 2010, 07:19:31 pm
Good gear did a good job - thanks for the pics!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Welsh on June 20, 2010, 07:22:37 pm
They were in traffic so 60kph (big ? mark as that is all i know).  That Uvex certainly broke up a lot.  I assume it takes a lot of energy to break it like that = energy that would have been transmitted to his skull if it had not broken.

Yep, a crumple zone effect, plus his Hair Bear padding  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Nimmo on June 20, 2010, 07:49:44 pm
Hoop jy word gou beter ... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Iron Shark on June 20, 2010, 08:48:29 pm
 :o

Dam, now I'm happier than ever that I have one of them helmets... They sure worked well in this off!

ATGATT      :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: LuckyStriker on June 20, 2010, 08:57:15 pm
Oh no just look at those City Pants!

You'll have to get a new pair quick or no more sexyness!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: somewhere-els on June 20, 2010, 09:04:01 pm
Eish! :eek7:

ATGATT rules!

At what speed did this accident happen?

If I recall correctly we were doing between 100 and 120 km per hour.   Michnus were thrown from the bike, hit the barrier and then the rolled down the tar. 

My opnion - Uvex did the job and we need to seriously look at neck braces.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: somewhere-els on June 20, 2010, 09:10:01 pm
Oh no just look at those City Pants!

You'll have to get a new pair quick or no more sexyness!

The zip actual ripped - it looks a bit worse because they cut the pants open to see how much damage was done.  If M had the hip pad in I am sure there would have been no damage.  He has an abrasion on his hip of about 10 x 5cm.  The only other skin missing is on his elbow, but that was due to material friction. 
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Watty on June 20, 2010, 09:13:08 pm
Sterkte en beterskap.  Werklik jammer julle moes op so 'n manier verhoed word om die EC Bash te kom geniet.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Jacko on June 20, 2010, 10:03:04 pm
Bliksem, dit was nou 'n groot skrik!!  :eek7:

Bly jy's oraait Mich. Laat weet of ons solank kan begin om vir jou 'n HP2 te soek....  :deal:


+1

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Fugly on June 20, 2010, 10:25:50 pm
My next helmet = Uvex carbon fibre!
Thanks Cracklin for such an awesome product, saved our mod!
Get well soon Uncle Michnus ;D
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Skinny on June 21, 2010, 05:10:36 am
Goeie moer - bly jy's okay!!!  :o
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Mark Hardy on June 21, 2010, 07:34:36 am
All the best and heal well.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: BigEd on June 21, 2010, 07:44:31 am
Sterkte ou beer. Word gou weer gesond... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: bronzy on June 21, 2010, 08:07:31 am
Good to hear you are OK,
Can i post some naked girls on Buttism to Cheer you up??? :pot: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Varadero on June 21, 2010, 08:17:30 am
Hectic, wishing you a speedy recovery  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: BOER! on June 21, 2010, 08:21:03 am
Sterkte Mich.  Word gou beter, ons hoor binnekort van jou.

ATTGAT rules  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Wooly Bugger on June 21, 2010, 08:37:22 am
Glad to hear that you are OK!
 :thumleft:
Get better soon!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Pistol on June 21, 2010, 08:44:59 am
Shew, first topic on a Monday morning, not nice, but glad all is well, heal soon :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Zohan on June 21, 2010, 08:50:52 am
All the best, Michnus.  Glad you're okay...
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: cloudgazer on June 21, 2010, 08:59:04 am
Jesus, crazy stuff man.

glad you're ok. take it easy. recover well.

Take it easy out there dogs.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Roné on June 21, 2010, 09:00:20 am
Moer !!!!!!!!!!!!!   bly jy is OK -   een vragie - hoe werk die versekering met ATGATT - moet mens dit appart spesifiseer?  Hulle betaal sekerlik vir die bike , maar wat van al daai Gear - dit gaan jou sekerlik 'n paar rand terug sit?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: GIDEON on June 21, 2010, 09:15:55 am
Bliksem man Ry veiliger.  :pot:
Word gesond  ;D
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Go Big on June 21, 2010, 09:58:33 am
Looks like he landed on his head, or went head first into the barrier. If that was the case he is lucky not to have neck injuries!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Kaboef on June 21, 2010, 10:08:27 am
Agnee, waddafouk?  ???

Glad to hear you are ok.
Had a big skrik reading this topic heading. :o

Now spill the beans, what happened?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Wheelman on June 21, 2010, 10:39:04 am
Hi Michnus,

Glad you are OK! I echo the sentiments of all the Dogs in wishing you a speedy recovery.....

Take it easy :)
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: GEE-SH on June 21, 2010, 10:43:44 am
Sterkte Mich, baie bly jy is ok!!!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Lootch67 on June 21, 2010, 11:36:02 am
Eish! Glad to hear you're OK (ish) Michnus.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: mannemerak on June 21, 2010, 11:47:51 am
What a way to start a Monday!

Michnus, hope you have a speedy recovery and glad to hear there is no serious injuries! Strongs!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Cave Girl on June 21, 2010, 12:20:13 pm
Glad to hear you okay - Heal well
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Wayne on June 21, 2010, 12:49:43 pm
Not nice news. Get better soon. I was really looking forward to meeting you at the bash
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Spore on June 21, 2010, 12:57:15 pm
Spoedige herstel Michnus! Ek kan gelukkig ook soos jy se 'n goeie helmet is sy prys in goud werd! Groetnis. :o :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: fat b on June 21, 2010, 01:02:57 pm
Hey man , that's bad news ! Strongs !  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: BlueAlp on June 21, 2010, 03:32:51 pm
Never nice to hear a fellow biker has gone down Get well soon
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: RobbieR on June 21, 2010, 03:43:18 pm
Sterkte Michnus !!

Ek het die strechers ontvang en nou oefen die vrou om dit op te slaan. :bueller: Baie dankie vir die spoedige diens.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: ETS on June 21, 2010, 03:53:00 pm
There's a guy called Michnus, a Wilddog,
on his way to a bash he fell the hog!
Now all of us are concerned
if his ass he burned!
Hope you get well soon my fog(k)!!!!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: SlowPoke on June 21, 2010, 03:58:24 pm
Michnus

Get well soon dude. Do you need any biltong and bier to speed your recovery?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: GSASTERIX (RIP) on June 21, 2010, 06:46:57 pm
Sterkte

hoop jy is gou weer wielle!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: SmuGS on June 21, 2010, 07:15:36 pm
Not good news get well soon man
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Roné on June 21, 2010, 07:54:47 pm
Michnus

Get well soon dude. Do you need any biltong and bier to speed your recovery?

Eish - now you put your foot in it - Hy gaan mos nou nooit gesond word nie en jy gaan die heeltyd bier en biltong aandra  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: SmuGS on June 21, 2010, 08:14:26 pm
Michnus

Get well soon dude. Do you need any biltong and bier to speed your recovery?

Eish - now you put your foot in it - Hy gaan mos nou nooit gesond word nie en jy gaan die heeltyd bier en biltong aandra  :imaposer:

I crashed in February can I get beer and biltong backpay as im still not fully healed? ???
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: N[]vA on June 21, 2010, 08:24:00 pm
glad your ok man!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Pistonpete on June 21, 2010, 09:10:51 pm
Gave us a shock so soon after Andy's off....get well soon bud! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Doringboom on June 21, 2010, 09:18:55 pm
Sterkte en 'n spoedige herstel vir jou Michnus!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Plothond on June 21, 2010, 09:19:35 pm
Hey, glad to hear you doing OK

Best wishes and get well soon
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on June 21, 2010, 09:35:16 pm
Eish....nou kan jy maar die 2010 GS koep...ek hoor hul ping nie... :peepwall: :patch: :biggrin:

Strongs..... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Jim on June 21, 2010, 10:11:16 pm
Ouch, sterkte met die recovery!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: DanMan on June 22, 2010, 08:06:07 am
Sterkte M.
Hoop jy spring weer gou trug op die fiets.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: bmad on June 22, 2010, 08:09:33 am
Good to hear that you semi OK.

Heal well and soon.
 :3some:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: LanceSA on June 22, 2010, 07:07:27 pm
Spoke to M today. He is back to his old happy-go-lucky self. Bit sore but recovering. Has only good things to say about his Uvex helmet. He really belives it made a difference.
Mine is on order.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: GSing on June 22, 2010, 07:56:07 pm
Michnus, I have Uvex Carbon Helmets and Leatt Braces in stock, let me know when I must send it to you......... and STRETCHERS!!!

"Nag ou Grootte"!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

PS - Het Mamma vir jou my boodskap gegee?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Moondog on June 22, 2010, 08:12:36 pm
Glad you are OK - probably lucky you fell on your head - you might have broken something.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Baches on June 22, 2010, 08:21:41 pm
Sterkte !!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Maya on June 22, 2010, 09:11:02 pm
Alle sterkte! Moenie vou nie!
Hoop jy kan gou weer ry.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: michnus on June 23, 2010, 12:27:51 pm
bliksem thanks for all the best wishes, maak n man se hart warm  :biggrin:

Still feel like I lost a fight with the Springbok scrum, but luckily no cuts and broken bones except for the rib and punctured lung.

Well fok my!! Just been on the highway and I think I braked for a car and the next moment the fork break and jam the rim and tyre against the fork....wham..bahm ...thank you mam, and I am on my back in a ambulance. Like a ghost jamming a stick into your spokes, it happened that fast......could not even finish o fok, and it was all over.

Other issue I had was Elsebie's 1200 gave me lots of issues with her ABS and servo's not working properly due to the battery being slapgat, the day before the bash I switched my bike on, and the servo's start running like mad and the ABS light keeps blinking and shows a red triangle. Thought it was the same shit, so I took the battery out, charged it over night and same happens next morning, servo's running like hell.
Well fok that, even the GS911 did not show a fault, and I had the same shit months ago in the Transkei and nothing happened, BMW designed the system to cut the units that's not working, and you only have normal brakes. I am still unsure if this also had a link to the broken parts of the fork.
The bike slide and hit the barriers, that impact could also have twisted and broke the ears of the fork, maybe by servo's locked when I tried to brake. Weeetie!



Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Stofstreep on June 23, 2010, 12:33:55 pm
:o
Sterkte boet!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: LeonDude on June 23, 2010, 12:36:03 pm
Welcome back Michnus, good to hear from you. Hope you feel sorted quickly!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: oo7 on June 23, 2010, 12:36:20 pm
bliksem thanks for all the best wishes, maak n man se hart warm  :biggrin:

Still feel like I lost a fight with the Springbok scrum, but luckily no cuts and broken bones except for the rib and punctured lung.


Well fok my!! Just been on the highway and I think I braked for a car and the next moment the fork break and jam the rim and tyre against the fork....wham..bahm ...thank you mam, and I am on my back in a ambulance. Like a ghost jamming a stick into your spokes, it happened that fast......could not even finish o fok, and it was all over.

Other issue I had was Elsebie's 1200 gave me lots of issues with her ABS and servo's not working properly due to the battery being slapgat, the day before the bash I switched my bike on, and the servo's start running like mad and the ABS light keeps blinking and shows a red triangle. Thought it was the same shit, so I took the battery out, charged it over night and same happens next morning, servo's running like hell.
Well fok that, even the GS911 did not show a fault, and I had the same shit months ago in the Transkei and nothing happened, BMW designed the system to cut the units that's not working, and you only have normal brakes. I am still unsure if this also had a link to the broken parts of the fork.
The bike slide and hit the barriers, that impact could also have twisted and broke the ears of the fork, maybe by servo's locked when I tried to brake. Weeetie!




Mich - komaan - admit it - NOW you know - the clutch thingy is the one on the left.   :biggrin:

Glad you are ok!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: KiLRoy on June 23, 2010, 12:43:49 pm
Glad you are up and about M

Are you saying the fork just broke and caused the front wheel jam?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 23, 2010, 12:48:49 pm
Got any pics for us yet?

You mos know, the collective WD is going to want to play Columbo on the incident.

(http://www.grouchoreviews.com/content/films/2603/1.jpg)

"There's just one more thing..."
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: SlowPoke on June 23, 2010, 12:53:57 pm
Sure we play columbo - we all like helping...  :mwink:

The business with the servo's sound suspicious. Michnus - did you not also report hairline cracks in a wheel hub a little while ago? Is it the same wheel?


(Columbo notes: A tall blond walked past my window. I knew she was tall, I was on the second floor...)
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Eisbein on June 23, 2010, 01:09:55 pm
Sure we play columbo - we all like helping...  :mwink:

The business with the servo's sound suspicious. Michnus - did you not also report hairline cracks in a wheel hub a little while ago? Is it the same wheel?


(Columbo notes: A tall blond walked past my window. I knew she was tall, I was on the second floor...)

She came in to my office and gave me a burning kiss.
Then she took the cigarette out of her mouth and kissed me again...

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Battlestar on June 23, 2010, 01:23:51 pm
Eish just saw this thread now.

Glad you ok M. Heal quick man  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: michnus on June 23, 2010, 01:36:01 pm
Glad you are up and about M

Are you saying the fork just broke and caused the front wheel jam?

I am not sure, it either caused it or broke afterwards, will post more info when I can get to the bike and see what happened.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: KiLRoy on June 23, 2010, 01:47:31 pm
Kwaai - keep us informed

BTW - the international porn industry got a hell of fright from this .... you better send them some assurence all is well with Karl Hungus' johnson..... >:D :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Ama ride ride on June 23, 2010, 01:49:34 pm
M

I think your hairstyle saved your pip. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Oetie on June 23, 2010, 01:52:23 pm
M

I think your hairstyle saved your pip. :biggrin:

 :laughing4:

Ama, it is time we grow ours, let me re-phrase, attempt to grow ours  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Grootseun on June 23, 2010, 01:56:37 pm
did you say "O fok" or "O Fork"

Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Snafu on June 23, 2010, 02:08:34 pm
Michnus, just think about it, if it wasnt for the "additional protection", it could have been worse!!!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Beemer Man (RIP) on June 23, 2010, 02:17:52 pm
Eeish M just seen this thread haven't been on for a couple of days, glad you ok mate!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: bradleys on June 23, 2010, 03:48:44 pm
Heel well Michnus, missed you at the bash but there is always another.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: michnus on June 23, 2010, 03:57:40 pm
ye man super pissed I missed the bash, I was really seeing forward to the bash, and Herman and Funacide invited me to Bots with them on Tuesday for a week and now I am sitting at home.  :patch:

All I can do now is work on new porn stories for Kilroy and other fans.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Adventurer on June 23, 2010, 04:21:16 pm
I was just checking my crystal ball out properly just now, at first I saw a Super Tenere in your future, but it's looking more and more like a Katoom now...... :pot: :peepwall: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Mikedabike on June 23, 2010, 05:12:07 pm
Ouch eina fokkit....sorry to hear and glad U ok Michnus...Heal fast
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 23, 2010, 07:07:11 pm
Glad to hear you are okay M. Hulle maa die mense baie taai in die Kaap!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on June 24, 2010, 07:32:15 am
Hey Michnus, you sure it's not 'ole Hungus that got into the spokes? You should'nt play with it while riding.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Petrilkop on June 24, 2010, 08:14:14 am
Hope you are back on two wheels soon! By the looks of it this fork has been repaired with duct tape on a previous occation. I am no engineer, but I think you pushed the boundries a bit with the use of duct tape - I would at least ad a cable tie or two instead of only the duct tape. Could have saved you a lot of pain!
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: IDR on June 24, 2010, 08:29:25 am
 :imaposer:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Ama ride ride on June 24, 2010, 08:34:11 am
:imaposer:

+3

Lol, waiting for M te reply.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: ETS on June 24, 2010, 08:45:24 am
ye man super pissed I missed the bash, I was really seeing forward to the bash, and Herman and Funacide invited me to Bots with them on Tuesday for a week and now I am sitting at home.  :patch:

All I can do now is work on new porn stories for Kilroy and other fans.  :biggrin:


Please include me!!! :lamer:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: tau on June 24, 2010, 08:45:54 am
Jislaaik M hope all heals well!!!!!

I had a bad experience with my dads 2006 Gs when it was splitternuut. I went over a rail crossing and as I hit the crossing the bike cut out and the rear locked up. This was on tar I had a rear wheel sliding for 40 od meters. I don't know how I saved it just not my turn I suppose. BMW found the battery broke a cell in the battery made a dead short and blew something in the servo assited system.
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: SlowPoke on June 24, 2010, 02:22:37 pm
Other issue I had was Elsebie's 1200 gave me lots of issues with her ABS and servo's not working properly due to the battery being slapgat, the day before the bash I switched my bike on, and the servo's start running like mad and the ABS light keeps blinking and shows a red triangle. Thought it was the same shit, so I took the battery out, charged it over night and same happens next morning, servo's running like hell.
Well fok that, even the GS911 did not show a fault, and I had the same shit months ago in the Transkei and nothing happened, BMW designed the system to cut the units that's not working, and you only have normal brakes. I am still unsure if this also had a link to the broken parts of the fork.
The bike slide and hit the barriers, that impact could also have twisted and broke the ears of the fork, maybe by servo's locked when I tried to brake. Weeetie!


Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now that is interesting.. never knew.  :o  :o
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Huggels on June 24, 2010, 02:37:01 pm
Lees nou eers van die... Jammer om te hoor maar is bly om te hoor niks ernstigs het gebeur. Sterkte  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Rynet on June 24, 2010, 03:18:02 pm
Hi Michnus,  heard about your accident at the Bash , not nice !! Just glad you are ok in the circumstances. Get better soon  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: michnus on June 24, 2010, 03:41:31 pm
thanks, it's great to know such a bunch of trashy sub culture bikers care about each other.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: Pickle on June 24, 2010, 04:02:03 pm
Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: buzzlightyear on June 24, 2010, 04:04:45 pm
Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?

If you remove the servos, you remove your brakes  :-\
Title: Re: Michnus Down !!!
Post by: michnus on June 24, 2010, 04:20:40 pm
Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?

It might have been........and or added to the problem.  :-\

I am getting a bit gatvol off all this stront, every time a battery sneezes, my ABS or servo's or HID light goes on the blink, and it has happened to both the bikes varies times.
It makes it difficult to trace problems and eventually what do you shrug off as rubbish and what  do you take serious? It's like listening to cry wolf stories every now and then.


Bike fell on it's right side and slide the 30m down the road and into barriers.

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/912109963_jNVoW-M.jpg)

How's this for good, H&B crashbars did the job well.

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/912110299_Uggsw-M.jpg)

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/912110952_JWh7i-M.jpg)

Light housing ans frame all busted. Front wheel broken, forks broken and so on, and so on..

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/912111216_tBf9S-M.jpg)
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 24, 2010, 04:23:02 pm
Elaborate a little on the "so on".
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Post by: Eisbein on June 24, 2010, 04:26:23 pm
Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?

This isn't the norm - I've got a 2005 and I'm not worried.

When it starts blinking it's lights at you is when you have cause.

My opinion anyway.

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Post by: Eisbein on June 24, 2010, 04:26:47 pm
Sheez M - good crashbars that...

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Post by: Jacko on June 24, 2010, 04:31:31 pm
Hei psssssst! Michnus!

Hierdie bike het shaft drive, tubeless bande, 21-duim voorwiel, 1200cc en geen servo/ABS kak nie... hoe lyk dit?  >:D

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Post by: BiG DoM on June 24, 2010, 04:43:31 pm
Hei psssssst! Michnus!

Hierdie bike het shaft drive, tubeless bande, 21-duim voorwiel, 1200cc en geen servo/ABS kak nie... hoe lyk dit?  >:D



Seconded. This was my solution for replacement when my 1200 servo assist, ABS etc decided to have a mind of its own and throttle stuck open and then front breaks appeared to lock ... the breaks may have been me with a big right fist full with ABS off but all goes pear shaped very fast ... as Mich I am sure wil, attest. What I can say is that on my Adv I discovered that the whining story from servo was due to dirt and binding of the micro-switch within the RHS break lever assembly. Very easy to get gunged up and narrow tolerances (and very small screws!).

On another tack, Michnus I believe that fork may have been missing the pinch bolt? In which case could the axle not have backed out and the wheel then have twisted, jammed, broken the fork leg at that spot???
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Post by: michnus on June 24, 2010, 04:49:22 pm
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

scrapes here and there, broken flickers all just stuff that will increase the repair bill cosmetics. Amazingly no engine damage or final drive or rear end damage.

Jaaaaaaaaa Jaco.  :biggrin:

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.
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Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 24, 2010, 05:20:17 pm
Fix of Fuct!
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Post by: Fugly on June 24, 2010, 09:04:20 pm
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:
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Post by: Adventurer on June 24, 2010, 09:12:30 pm
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Nah, these days we just smile knowingly..... :peepwall: :biggrin:

It won't be long and the Super Tenere okes will be joining the Katoom okes on this bandwagon.... :biggrin:
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Post by: Puddles on June 25, 2010, 07:59:32 am
Phew M, sorry to hear about your tumble ... Glad you are ok  :biggrin:.

When I see that glove ... I wish my son had been wearing his when he had his off.  Wow - that helmet sure took a serious bash.  Luckily hubby also rides with one of those.  :thumleft:  :thumleft:

Heal soon !
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Post by: Reg on June 25, 2010, 08:51:26 am
Glad to hear that you are okay.

Get well soon, hate to say it, but get a KTM next time.  ;)
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Post by: Jacko on June 25, 2010, 08:54:04 am
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)
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Post by: GEE-SH on June 25, 2010, 09:28:16 am
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.


Fooook are you referring to the pinch bolt that secures the axle that was missing??
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Post by: BiG DoM on June 25, 2010, 10:26:44 am
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.


Fooook are you referring to the pinch bolt that secures the axle that was missing??

Shhhh..  :-\
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Post by: ETS on June 25, 2010, 10:29:44 am
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)

Opinions may differ on this...... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Post by: michnus on June 25, 2010, 03:18:00 pm
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.


Fooook are you referring to the pinch bolt that secures the axle that was missing??

Shhhh..  :-\

hehehe and also.  ;)

ETS you can call me a poepol, but if you say I love blue crocks.  >:(

  :biggrin:
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Post by: Adventurer on June 25, 2010, 03:21:38 pm
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)

Michnus on an HP2???? Rather his sister on a Harley....No chance either way.....
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Post by: BiG DoM on June 25, 2010, 03:26:51 pm
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)

Michnus on an HP2???? Rather his sister on a Harley....No chance either way.....

... or his Mother on a Buell  :ricky: Is a slightly scary thought, mind.
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Post by: ETS on June 25, 2010, 04:12:46 pm
Mich hoe gaan dit nou? Nog baie seer?
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Post by: >>Thump°C on June 25, 2010, 06:28:43 pm

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)
sounds a bit gay?

Glad you ok Michnus
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Post by: EssBee on June 25, 2010, 07:01:04 pm
Geeze, after being absent from this forum for a few weeks, I come back to see this...noooit!!!! Well, glad you're ok, man, sterkte!!!!!!!!!!

12 weeks today since my off....
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Post by: GreenMachine on July 01, 2010, 06:51:33 pm
Glad you are ok, this could have been much worse.

What does BMW have to say about all of this. If I had one, it would be for sale right now, brakes locking for no reason is just no acceptable. I am not sure whether no brakes would be either but holy crap!
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Post by: KobusL on July 01, 2010, 06:55:10 pm
 :o

Maybe we should change the thread titles on these threads to "xxxxxx down - but up again" once the rider is OK again...
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Post by: michnus on July 01, 2010, 07:05:42 pm
Glad you are ok, this could have been much worse.

What does BMW have to say about all of this. If I had one, it would be for sale right now, brakes locking for no reason is just no acceptable. I am not sure whether no brakes would be either but holy crap!


aaag not even going to bother  :-\

Am better, thanks for asking  ;)
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Post by: Groenie on July 01, 2010, 08:00:12 pm
Bly jy's weer up and about ou toppie.
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Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on July 01, 2010, 08:09:42 pm
Ai, al so baie vraagtekens oor hierdie BM's, maar ek kan nie n man skop as hy le nie, so Michnus, hier's op jou gesondheid!!!
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Post by: KobusL on July 01, 2010, 08:12:16 pm
Ai, al so baie vraagtekens oor hierdie BM's, maar ek kan nie n man skop as hy le nie, so Michnus, hier's op jou gesondheid!!!

Hy is mos weer op, skop maar  :imaposer:
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Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on July 01, 2010, 08:13:36 pm
Dis nog te gou, Michnus is nog in die rou-periode.
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Post by: KobusL on July 01, 2010, 08:15:53 pm
Is dit voor- of na denial?
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Post by: michnus on July 01, 2010, 08:42:19 pm
hahaha die ribbes pyn nog en nou gaat julle so aan, dis kak om te lag as jou ribbes pyn.  :biggrin:
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Post by: KobusL on July 01, 2010, 08:48:41 pm
hahaha die ribbes pyn nog en nou gaat julle so aan, dis kak om te lag as jou ribbes pyn.  :biggrin:

Moet net nie per ongeluk peper snuif nie, en as jy doen gaan sit maar op die wit pot voor jy nies want jy gaan jouself bek@k  :imaposer:
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Post by: Welsh on July 01, 2010, 08:50:03 pm
hahaha die ribbes pyn nog en nou gaat julle so aan, dis kak om te lag as jou ribbes pyn.  :biggrin:

Tell Else no lifting the knees and squeezing  :o :o
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Post by: michnus on July 01, 2010, 09:25:42 pm
 :imaposer:  moegoes

was also a bit of a sad day for me today, bike got loaded to go to Hentie, was really sad seeing it all broken on the trailer.
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Post by: Iron Shark on July 01, 2010, 10:42:34 pm
I bet that was a sad farewell....   :'(    So gaan dit maar ne!

So are you gonna look at getting another one to replace it Michnus?  :mwink:
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Post by: White Rhino on July 02, 2010, 02:50:46 am
Not exactly what anyone would expect from BMW technology. I bet there are a few 1200 BM owners checking their models and front forks and brakes.

Swift recovery Michnus.
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Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on July 02, 2010, 07:29:10 am
What technology? ABS,immobiliser, traction control? That is nowadays to be found on some pretty down-market cars as well, what's the big deal?
With the cars the wheels do not break off though.
BM riders, check your bikes thoroughly before and during each ride, I've always had a vague suspicion that there might be less reliability and durability
surrounding this brand than BMW and some owners would like us to believe.
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Post by: The TRANSPORTER on July 02, 2010, 07:57:40 am
Well looking at that bike if at a BMW shop its a write off.... :peepwall: :o :o

M koep maar nou jou GSA ek weet jy wil.... :mwink: :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Post by: Leo on July 02, 2010, 08:12:02 am
Hey Michnus

Bly om te sien alles is OK met jou! Word vinnig beter.
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Post by: Adventurer on July 02, 2010, 08:24:18 am
My crystal ball sees one of these in Michnus' future........ :ricky:
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Post by: Snafu on July 02, 2010, 08:38:55 am
My crystal ball sees one of these in Michnus' future........ :ricky:

Not a chance, he is to proud of his shaft! :P
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Post by: krister on July 02, 2010, 09:37:52 am
Gaan Hentie haar vir jou fix?
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Post by: KiLRoy on July 02, 2010, 09:53:29 am
Orange doesn't go well with his hair ;D >:D
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Post by: michnus on July 02, 2010, 10:02:18 am
 donners!  :laughing4: :biggrin:

Sal maar kyk Krister, nog niks gereel nie, hulle moet eers quote op die insurance of miskien die bike afskryf.
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Post by: EssBee on July 04, 2010, 05:37:20 pm


Not a chance, he is to proud of his shaft! :P
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Aren't we all?????? :deal:
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Post by: Wooly Bugger on July 09, 2010, 10:42:06 am


Not a chance, he is to proud of his shaft! :P



Aren't we all?????? :deal:
[/quote]

I can only speak for myself........ :biggrin:
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Post by: ETS on July 09, 2010, 10:45:02 am
donners!  :laughing4: :biggrin:

Sal maar kyk Krister, nog niks gereel nie, hulle moet eers quote op die insurance of miskien die bike afskryf.

Ek het vir jou n 2007 990 met 34 000km op. R 95 000. Oranje. Leo Vince pype. Heated grips. Chrashbars
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Post by: michnus on July 09, 2010, 11:11:27 am
donners!  :laughing4: :biggrin:

Sal maar kyk Krister, nog niks gereel nie, hulle moet eers quote op die insurance of miskien die bike afskryf.

Ek het vir jou n 2007 990 met 34 000km op. R 95 000. Oranje. Leo Vince pype. Heated grips. Chrashbars

why you want to sell yours, wanting to get a GS?  ;)
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Post by: Hentie @ Riders on July 09, 2010, 11:36:14 am
Nee Michnus se bike is MOERTOE!!!!!  :eek7:
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Post by: Kaboef on July 09, 2010, 12:08:52 pm
Nee Michnus se bike is MOERTOE!!!!!  :eek7:


I'm not surprised. BMW Insurance writes a bike off if exhaust headers are slightly discoloured.
 :biggrin:


Start a thread:

WHAT'S NEXT FOR MICHNUS!!!

Not a KTM (its a unreliable POS)  :pot:
Not another 1200 (crappy suspension)   :3some:
Not a Super10 (ABS cant switch off, vulnerable radiators)
Not a Vara (Michnus dont like Jap bikes)  :patch:

So: what could it be?  ???

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Post by: BiG DoM on July 09, 2010, 12:16:43 pm
Nee Michnus se bike is MOERTOE!!!!!  :eek7:


I'm not surprised. BMW Insurance writes a bike off if exhaust headers are slightly discoloured.
 :biggrin:


Start a thread:

WHAT'S NEXT FOR MICHNUS!!!

Not a KTM (its a unreliable POS)  :pot:
Not another 1200 (crappy suspension)   :3some:
Not a Super10 (ABS cant switch off, vulnerable radiators)
Not a Vara (Michnus dont like Jap bikes)  :patch:

So: what could it be?  ???



1, 2, 3 ... Eish....Pee...Twee  :biggrin:   
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Post by: Iron Shark on July 09, 2010, 12:45:43 pm
Nee Michnus se bike is MOERTOE!!!!!  :eek7:


I'm not surprised. BMW Insurance writes a bike off if exhaust headers are slightly discoloured.
 :biggrin:


Start a thread:

WHAT'S NEXT FOR MICHNUS!!!

Not a KTM (its a unreliable POS)  :pot:
Not another 1200 (crappy suspension)   :3some:
Not a Super10 (ABS cant switch off, vulnerable radiators)
Not a Vara (Michnus dont like Jap bikes)  :patch:

So: what could it be?  ???



1, 2, 3 ... Eish....Pee...Twee  :biggrin:   

Then he can farkel it just with all the tips from you guys here on the forum!    :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Post by: ETS on July 09, 2010, 12:47:16 pm
donners!  :laughing4: :biggrin:

Sal maar kyk Krister, nog niks gereel nie, hulle moet eers quote op die insurance of miskien die bike afskryf.

Ek het vir jou n 2007 990 met 34 000km op. R 95 000. Oranje. Leo Vince pype. Heated grips. Chrashbars

why you want to sell yours, wanting to get a GS?  ;)


Bought an Adventure S................
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Post by: michnus on July 09, 2010, 01:03:26 pm
Bliksem ek hoop jy het lekker tyd met daai fiets  :thumleft:

Not a KTM (its a unreliable POS)  I need a bit more convincing.  ;)
Not another 1200 (crappy suspension)   for sure not, but if it has to be I will take a normal GS and add bliksems nice GSA type suspension and keep the bike weight down.
Not a Super10 (ABS cant switch off, vulnerable radiators) nee wat, radiators, en a kwart ton, en ABS huuhuuuh nee pappie
Not a Vara (Michnus dont like Jap bikes) Love jap bikes, do not appreciate their view on D/S bikes, they have lost it.

HP2 or a SE, don't know, or must wait for the new Truimph and see what they come up with, or stick my head into it and let DustDevil guide me building my own bike HPN style, that suite me, but not for R300k, that's stupid money.  :mwink:
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Post by: Brakenjan on July 10, 2010, 08:11:36 am
HP2 or a SE, don't know, or must wait for the new Truimph and see what they come up with, or stick my head into it and let DustDevil guide me building my own bike HPN style, that suite me, but not for R300k, that's stupid money.  :mwink:


Mich, jy kon 'n politikus gewees het! Dis reg, maak die KTM-boys opgewonde deur hulle te laat dink jy oorweeg actually 'n SE.  :imaposer:

Joke net - kry nou vir jou 'n Eish Pee en begin solank met die HPN on the side......  :drif:
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Post by: Andy660 on July 10, 2010, 02:52:00 pm
Get well soon Michnus , this looks like your new bike , lol !

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/hunday/bikes/SuperTenere1-1.jpg)
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Post by: michnus on July 10, 2010, 03:18:04 pm
eish Andy... Angola 2 Yamaha 0  :biggrin:
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Post by: Andy660 on July 10, 2010, 03:30:39 pm
`Hey Michnus !
Ja nee , both my XT`s are in the garage,Still cant ride either of them.Lh broken collarbone , at the end of the shoulder and the rib broken on the same side in the middle of my back.
And driving the cage to work sucks.
My old XT660 has 73 000km on and my new XT660Z only 650km , but all I can do is look at them , still , we both still alive and the roads arent going anywhere.

Hope your are healing well too,
Andy
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Post by: michnus on July 10, 2010, 03:45:38 pm
`Hey Michnus !
Ja nee , both my XT`s are in the garage,Still cant ride either of them.Lh broken collarbone , at the end of the shoulder and the rib broken on the same side in the middle of my back.
And driving the cage to work sucks.
My old XT660 has 73 000km on and my new XT660Z only 650km , but all I can do is look at them , still , we both still alive and the roads arent going anywhere.

Hope your are healing well too,
Andy

I wanted to start a thread, "die hoekie vir moer toe's" but then I thought rather not, we will just get more flack form the rest of these oke's :biggrin:

Jeeez you really came off bad!  :eek7: We are middle aged china, it's going to take months not weeks to heal. I hope you get well soon man.  :thumleft:
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Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 10, 2010, 05:34:48 pm
`Hey Michnus !
Ja nee , both my XT`s are in the garage,Still cant ride either of them.Lh broken collarbone , at the end of the shoulder and the rib broken on the same side in the middle of my back.
And driving the cage to work sucks.
My old XT660 has 73 000km on and my new XT660Z only 650km , but all I can do is look at them , still , we both still alive and the roads arent going anywhere.

Hope your are healing well too,
Andy

I wanted to start a thread, "die hoekie vir moer toe's" but then I thought rather not, we will just get more flack form the rest of these oke's :biggrin:

Jeeez you really came off bad!  :eek7: We are middle aged china, it's going to take months not weeks to heal. I hope you get well soon man.  :thumleft:
Can I join the hoekie too? :thumleft: Patience by brothers patience!!
And I have none :biggrin: Heal fast!!