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General => General Bike Related Banter => To Buy or Not To Buy => Topic started by: michnus on July 31, 2010, 10:46:37 pm

Title: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: michnus on July 31, 2010, 10:46:37 pm
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Please add information for prospective new owners of second hand bikes, that you feel they ought to know and things they need to look out for, before spending the money.

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Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 31, 2010, 11:13:59 pm
Check fuel and oillevels.
Thats it. Nothing more to look for. :peepwall: :thumleft:
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Gypsybaron on August 01, 2010, 01:04:48 am
Try to make sure of the history of the bike - service history.

Check the spoke tension on the wheels - tap each spoke, all should sound basically the same. If one is too high, it's under too much tension. If it sounds dull, it is not tightened properly. If there is a big discrepancy on a wheel, the owner probably didn't have it serviced regularly, or hit a pothole and doesn't want to tell you the wheel is stuffed.

Check wheel bearing play / final drive backlash. Especially true after 150000+ km. YES, one hundred and fifty thousand kilometers!
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: lonerider on August 01, 2010, 01:40:35 am
Check the rubber boots on the shaft drive ends for signs of leaks and damage.

For the ABS models, make sure you can easily switch off the ABS without hassles. (Hold down the ABS button whilst turning ignition on - ABS light on dashboard should remain solidly lit to indicate ABS disabled.)
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Welsh on August 01, 2010, 08:25:57 am
Check around the rear of the motor for oil, residue, it may indicate a leaking crankshaft rear seal, check shocks for excessive sag, the GS ones can get really "pap" as they get older.
Check discs for movement they should float not rattle :biggrin:
Check front ball joint for tears in rubber, should not be any play. never had an issue, but you asked... 8)
 
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: PeterO on August 01, 2010, 09:04:07 am
OK I bought mine and had quite a bit to do to bring it up to scratch, but here are the main ones.

Calipers were sticking ... easy job just time consuming ... do it yourself so no cost, though pads are not cheap.

Discs .... almost R10,000 for new discs, but you can have your old ones ground by Waterjet (Fidel is a WD), or with some effort he can make new ones but it will take lots of time; worth the wait at 1/3 of the price!

Throttle Bodies ... this is a major one.  The bushes holding butterfly shaft that runs through the throttle bodies wears.  You can hear a clacking sound coming from the cam that the throttle cable runs over.  If they're badly worn you cannot tune the bike and it runs very unevenly.  Riding offroad can be a challenge with all the jerking. New throttle bodies ... about R10,000.  You can have them rebuilt by Colin Brown in Milnerton for R3,750

If you want your saddle recovered ... Less than R200 by Peter in Brooklyn close to Paarden Eiland.
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Welsh on August 01, 2010, 11:35:31 am
OK I bought mine and had quite a bit to do to bring it up to scratch, but here are the main ones.

Calipers were sticking ... easy job just time consuming ... do it yourself so no cost, though pads are not cheap.

Discs .... almost R10,000 for new discs, but you can have your old ones ground by Waterjet (Fidel is a WD), or with some effort he can make new ones but it will take lots of time; worth the wait at 1/3 of the price!

Throttle Bodies ... this is a major one.  The bushes holding butterfly shaft that runs through the throttle bodies wears.  You can hear a clacking sound coming from the cam that the throttle cable runs over.  If they're badly worn you cannot tune the bike and it runs very unevenly.  Riding offroad can be a challenge with all the jerking. New throttle bodies ... about R10,000.  You can have them rebuilt by Colin Brown in Milnerton for R3,750

If you want your saddle recovered ... Less than R200 by Peter in Brooklyn close to Paarden Eiland.

Forgot about the throttle bodies, quite true and the right one is usually the culprit... 8)
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Lem on August 11, 2010, 11:05:33 pm
OK I bought mine and had quite a bit to do to bring it up to scratch, but here are the main ones.

Calipers were sticking ... easy job just time consuming ... do it yourself so no cost, though pads are not cheap.

Discs .... almost R10,000 for new discs, but you can have your old ones ground by Waterjet (Fidel is a WD), or with some effort he can make new ones but it will take lots of time; worth the wait at 1/3 of the price!

Throttle Bodies ... this is a major one.  The bushes holding butterfly shaft that runs through the throttle bodies wears.  You can hear a clacking sound coming from the cam that the throttle cable runs over.  If they're badly worn you cannot tune the bike and it runs very unevenly.  Riding offroad can be a challenge with all the jerking. New throttle bodies ... about R10,000.  You can have them rebuilt by Colin Brown in Milnerton for R3,750

If you want your saddle recovered ... Less than R200 by Peter in Brooklyn close to Paarden Eiland.

Thanks Dr Peter

Ithe tips on the throttle bodies will come in handy for future. I musyt mention to our fellow dogs that your bike has got 125000km on the clock, that was when I met you before easter.

hope she gives you good servoce
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: DirtRebell on August 12, 2010, 04:51:36 pm
Check for cracks in alluminium topbox carrier

Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Great White on August 13, 2010, 03:54:40 pm
Check for cracks in alluminium topbox carrier


If you catch it early, you can still sort it out. If its too late, the box is gone.
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: PeterO on August 24, 2010, 09:14:20 pm

Thanks Dr Peter

Ithe tips on the throttle bodies will come in handy for future. I musyt mention to our fellow dogs that your bike has got 125000km on the clock, that was when I met you before easter.

hope she gives you good servoce

Just got back from some pretty rough riding along the Wild Coast ... 138,000 Km and not a problem, though I do need a new clutch now - I suppose that can be considered fair wear and tear?  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Lem on August 24, 2010, 11:11:10 pm
Have you found out the benefits of fitting a ceramic clutch, and how does that quote against fitting a stock BMW one?we'd like to know, as I know I have to make this decision at some stage as well.
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Lem on August 24, 2010, 11:12:21 pm
There is a Ceramic kit in the Touratech guide. Said to last as long as the bike itself, then it must be blerrie good. Can someone find out, or share some experience?
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: PeterO on October 28, 2010, 05:18:00 pm
Have you found out the benefits of fitting a ceramic clutch, and how does that quote against fitting a stock BMW one?we'd like to know, as I know I have to make this decision at some stage as well.

I honestly can't see what benefit there will be from a ceramic clutch.  How much longer do you need a clutch to last than 130,000 Km?

I had mine re-bonded for R250 ... if it only lasts another 100,000 Km it's a bargain compared with the price of the ceramic one, or even a new BMW clutch plate (at about R1,200).
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: CHANGUION on November 02, 2010, 12:30:49 pm
Check for cracks in alluminium topbox carrier


If you catch it early, you can still sort it out. If its too late, the box is gone.

Hi,

i checked my bike after seeing your comment and i do have hairline cracks in my carrier. how do i sort it out?
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: DirtRebell on November 02, 2010, 12:39:31 pm
Check for cracks in alluminium topbox carrier


If you catch it early, you can still sort it out. If its too late, the box is gone.

Hi,

i checked my bike after seeing your comment and i do have hairline cracks in my carrier. how do i sort it out?

James at Fourways BMW has a contact - he sorted mine out for R600 bucks I think it was. Excl stickers...
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Veldbrand on November 02, 2010, 12:57:07 pm
Check for cracks in alluminium topbox carrier


If you catch it early, you can still sort it out. If its too late, the box is gone.

Hi,

i checked my bike after seeing your comment and i do have hairline cracks in my carrier. how do i sort it out?

James at Fourways BMW has a contact - he sorted mine out for R600 bucks I think it was. Excl stickers...

James is the man.
Just remember it is made from magnesium and not aluminium so as I understand it is a very specific weld.
Had mine done and powder coated recently and it looks new.
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Great White on November 02, 2010, 01:05:58 pm
Check for cracks in alluminium topbox carrier


If you catch it early, you can still sort it out. If its too late, the box is gone.

Hi,

i checked my bike after seeing your comment and i do have hairline cracks in my carrier. how do i sort it out?
You can speak to Steven from Argoweld 011-795-2622 He fixed and reinforced it at the same time.
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: rose44 on March 27, 2014, 09:22:51 pm
I am thinking of buying a bmw 1150gs, 2001 model with 48000km on the clock! Would this be a wise decision?  Apparently its got a service record etc. Will have a look at the bike this coming weekend!
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: rose44 on March 27, 2014, 09:28:14 pm
I am thinking of buying a bmw 1150gs, 2001 model with 48000km on the clock! Would this be a wise decision?  Apparently its got a service record etc. Will have a look at the bike this coming weekend!
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: DirtRebell on March 29, 2014, 05:46:35 pm
I am thinking of buying a bmw 1150gs, 2001 model with 48000km on the clock! Would this be a wise decision?  Apparently its got a service record etc. Will have a look at the bike this coming weekend!

It would be a wise decision indeed!
Minor points depend on it, mileage, service hist, accident hist, price etc?
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: SmuGS on March 29, 2014, 08:13:59 pm
I am thinking of buying a bmw 1150gs, 2001 model with 48000km on the clock! Would this be a wise decision?  Apparently its got a service record etc. Will have a look at the bike this coming weekend!

It would be a wise decision indeed!
Minor points depend on it, mileage, service hist, accident hist, price etc?

+1 low km specimens are becoming harder to find nowdays..
Title: Re: BEFORE YOU BUY A 1150GS 1150GSA LOOK OUT FOR THIS
Post by: Pavlovski on November 11, 2015, 05:28:32 pm
*Dented headers and bent sub-frame my by indicators of a fall
*Some oukes remove the ABS servo pump. It it was done on the 1150 you're looking at...make sure it was done properly