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Title: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 06, 2011, 01:00:49 pm
Following the unsuccessful attempt to sell my DRZ400 I am now shaping a plug from which to produce a dakar-style fairing.
As soon as the first one comes out of the mould I can mod that to fit other bikes: WR's, XR's. pre-2008 KLR's, XT's etc, etc.
It is planned as a quick release set-up to get in for servicing. First pic will be on tomorrow.
Please indicate your interest and bike model so I can determine my MO.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Wolweseun on June 06, 2011, 01:03:00 pm
We first need to see one

If it looks good you may have interest
If it looks like shite obviously I wont have any interest
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Tr0jan on June 06, 2011, 02:49:11 pm
Following the unsuccessful attempt to sell my DRZ400 I am now shaping a plug from which to produce a dakar-style fairing.
As soon as the first one comes out of the mould I can mod that to fit other bikes: WR's, XR's. pre-2008 KLR's, XT's etc, etc.
It is planned as a quick release set-up to get in for servicing. First pic will be on tomorrow.
Please indicate your interest and bike model so I can determine my MO.

if it looks good im in too!

Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Panjo on June 06, 2011, 04:32:13 pm
Yeah, if it's good, I'll be interested, for the 640 Enduro, Thanks
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Lew on June 06, 2011, 06:28:05 pm
lets see pictures.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Teapot on June 06, 2011, 06:33:54 pm
Yes post some pictures please.
If it looks good there is interest.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 07, 2011, 07:42:59 am
Here's the initial angular shape, cover in first sealer layer. Wire frame and or wooden dowels used to measure lines and reach limits around bars, instruments and fender. Top half would fit precise onto DRZ radiator shrouds, but full version should be stronger and look better.

All edges and corners will be rounded off after first fibre glass layer has gone on, so watch this space as it develops.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: edgy on June 07, 2011, 07:44:07 am
Not too shabby! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: TheAnt on June 07, 2011, 07:46:33 am
Subscribe!!! Cant wait to see end result  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Lew on June 07, 2011, 08:01:52 am
Looks good, hurry up want to see final result.I think you might be busy soon.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Dwerg on June 07, 2011, 08:05:07 am
Subscribe
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Tr0jan on June 07, 2011, 09:37:43 am
so far I like!!!! can see the potential!


gooi finished pics man!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: S - 4 - B on June 07, 2011, 12:11:17 pm
Please do not shoot me for asking

I also have a DRz and the frsit thing I did was bin the small tank in favour of an IMS 17/18 litre tank as the Drz std tank gives it very little range.

In my case the IMS covers the radiators as well.

I feel you are limiting yourself by designing that "far"down the bike. Would it not have been better to design to where the original Radiator shrouds are...that way allowing ALL aftermarket tanks to work with your design ?

Otherwise , great work...I love composites , keep it up  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 07, 2011, 01:56:53 pm
Please do not shoot me for asking

I also have a DRz and the frsit thing I did was bin the small tank in favour of an IMS 17/18 litre tank as the Drz std tank gives it very little range.

In my case the IMS covers the radiators as well.

I feel you are limiting yourself by designing that "far"down the bike. Would it not have been better to design to where the original Radiator shrouds are...that way allowing ALL aftermarket tanks to work with your design ?


The red line on this pic is where the original DRZ shroud meets the fairing before I started work on the full set-up. The fairing-half above the red line can easily be mated onto your IMS tank. I'm thinking SIKA-FLEX to join the two. (it's like super silicon)

The beauty of working from a good mould is that mould 2 can easily be built onto the modified artifact taken from mould 1 etc, etc.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: S - 4 - B on June 07, 2011, 02:07:22 pm
Thanks for clarifying that.

I look forward to seeing this progress.

Sheet , the kevlar + carbon mix material could look quite nice left natural if the mould is good and strong enough to vacuum... :thumleft:  The Suz is yellow after all  :mwink:

Suppose it would make the fairing too expensive though ?

Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Wolfmother on June 07, 2011, 02:08:51 pm
Coooooooooooooooool.  :eek7:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: DJ on June 07, 2011, 02:33:12 pm
Here is another nice looking fairing on a DRZ
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: mtbbiker on June 07, 2011, 03:42:03 pm
Subscribed
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: ktmmer on June 07, 2011, 03:44:05 pm
That looks like a 640 fairing.

I actually have a mould for one like that.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Rufus115 on June 08, 2011, 08:56:04 am
and i got one off KTMMER, its well made and was reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: mtbbiker on June 08, 2011, 10:08:01 am
Hi

Just a suggestion, check that the "screen" is forward enough when you stand and ride or when you sit and you "hide" behind the screen for wind protection that your helmet is not against the screen. See the picture posted with 640 fairing

My 2C
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 08, 2011, 12:59:28 pm
Hi

Just a suggestion, check that the "screen" is forward enough when you stand and ride or when you sit and you "hide" behind the screen for wind protection that your helmet is not against the screen. See the picture posted with 640 fairing

My 2C

It's worth more than 2 cents! but yes I have considered it carefully. Broke my collar bone coming off my R80 on which the screen was too high, too far forward and far too strong! No one person can cover all the angles so I'm taking any advice or comments as handy and appreciate it.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Dwarf on June 08, 2011, 01:17:16 pm
Subscribe  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Teapot on June 08, 2011, 08:57:33 pm
Very nice,i see where its going.
Cant wait to see the finish resilts.
Maybe i will do it to my f650 gs Dakar.

 O0 A dakar,dakar style... :imaposer:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 08, 2011, 10:14:35 pm
I dont have a DRZee or a need for a fairing, but damn, nice thread!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: madmike999 on June 08, 2011, 10:23:03 pm
+100000
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: GRUNT on June 09, 2011, 06:58:10 am
That fairing looks really cool, if it could be made to fit an old shape KLR ( A model ) I would be really interested, I have been toying with the idea of importing a fairing from Britanica composites in Canada but the landed cost does not justify the mod.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: desert dueler on June 09, 2011, 08:22:33 am
That fairing looks really cool, if it could be made to fit an old shape KLR ( A model ) I would be really interested, I have been toying with the idea of importing a fairing from Britanica composites in Canada but the landed cost does not justify the mod.

what did the cost come out to?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: GRUNT on June 09, 2011, 04:20:47 pm
All inclusive about ZAR 7850.00, shipping cost alone $250.00 Can.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 10, 2011, 01:04:29 pm
That fairing looks really cool, if it could be made to fit an old shape KLR ( A model ) I would be really interested, I have been toying with the idea of importing a fairing from Britanica composites in Canada but the landed cost does not justify the mod.

I change bikes approx. every 18 months. next one will most likely be an old shape KLR with the 685cc conversion, so yes this fairing should be easily altered to fit the KLR.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 10, 2011, 01:07:42 pm
All inclusive about ZAR 7850.00, shipping cost alone $250.00 Can.

The high shipping cost is because you get charged per volume before weight. Fairing takes up lots of space in a container. So we should all clap hands that pistons are so nice and small in size and low in weight!

Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Chairman Meow on June 10, 2011, 01:46:16 pm
Very Very nice and very talented :thumleft:

What about a mod one for R80G/S with PD tank??.....
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: alli on June 10, 2011, 07:12:54 pm
 :thumleft: subscribed
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on June 10, 2011, 07:17:44 pm
Subscribed :)
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Sir Rat on June 10, 2011, 07:49:16 pm
I am all ears eyes on this one!!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: ChinaPete on June 10, 2011, 08:52:13 pm
Looking good, nice bike too.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: westfrogger on June 12, 2011, 06:45:14 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: letsgofishing on June 13, 2011, 09:05:00 am
Really nice work there TC  :thumleft:
Have you perhaps considered making the screen bit shorter and then attaching a polycarbonate wind shield so that riders of different heights can have the final piece of screen the right height to suit them?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 14, 2011, 02:11:20 pm
Really nice work there TC  :thumleft:
Have you perhaps considered making the screen bit shorter and then attaching a polycarbonate wind shield so that riders of different heights can have the final piece of screen the right height to suit them?


yes and no. The screen height on the plug is maximum. The mould would therefore produce the maximum height fairing which will be cut to requirements before final finishing. On mine I'll probably cut out the whole centre section of the screen and replace it with off-set polycarbonate to prevent buffetting...
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 14, 2011, 02:15:01 pm
Very Very nice and very talented :thumleft:

What about a mod one for R80G/S with PD tank??.....

Anything is possible. The beauty of working with fibre glass plugs and moulds is that they can be widened, lengthened etc. The process takes time to produce new moulds from modified plugs, but that is what winters are for init?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: fixit on June 14, 2011, 02:39:11 pm
I like people with talent.  :thumleft:

Looking good so far. Are you going to split the mould?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: wave rider on June 14, 2011, 06:42:40 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but what is LDPE sheeting? 
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on June 14, 2011, 07:02:27 pm
Excuse my ignorance, but what is LDPE sheeting? 

Low Density Polyethylene (LDPE) Sheeting :mwink:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23655
 ;)
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: wave rider on June 14, 2011, 09:25:50 pm


Low Density Polyethylene (LDPE) Sheeting :mwink:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23655
 ;)
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Thanks
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: desert dueler on June 15, 2011, 07:46:06 am
looking good. cant wait to see the final product. well done. very interested.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on June 15, 2011, 01:05:05 pm
looking good. cant wait to see the final product. well done. very interested.

 :thumleft: +1
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: mtbbiker on June 15, 2011, 07:25:49 pm
Hi
What are you planning to use for the head light. Are you going to use the stock light?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: ChinaPete on June 15, 2011, 07:30:22 pm
Good point, if you're going Dakar style fairing you probably want to look at some decent lighting.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Kreef on June 15, 2011, 09:02:46 pm
 :happy1:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Rokie on June 23, 2011, 01:14:49 pm
lookin guuuud
keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: g1_ on June 26, 2011, 07:39:59 pm
Subscribed
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 26, 2011, 07:52:50 pm
Pardon the interruption, but should this thread not be in the DRZ section of Tech?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Ronsard on June 26, 2011, 08:33:28 pm
awesome....like what you are doing,
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Gérrard on June 26, 2011, 08:48:01 pm
Pardon the interruption, but should this thread not be in the DRZ section of Tech?

Projects ?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: DaveT on June 26, 2011, 09:16:13 pm
I think the mods did a search on "Dakar" and dumped all related threads under the 650/Dakar section when the new technical section was made up recently.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 26, 2011, 10:56:10 pm
I think the mods did a search on "Dakar" and dumped all related threads under the 650/Dakar section when the new technical section was made up recently.
+1
FN Useless!!! :amazon:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: KlipKop on June 27, 2011, 12:56:09 pm
Great job wit the fairing, that DRZ is going to look awsome!!! Lookout my bra all DRZ owners will be contacting u shortly!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Grumpleton on June 28, 2011, 06:01:10 pm
I got a custom screen from Suzuki Vredendburg speak to Milan he has them made to fit the DRZ400 easy fit with 4 bolts R1250.00 took about 45 min to fit with limited tools.  sorry about the pic it is a single perspex screan
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 30, 2011, 05:29:43 pm
Mmm, I was away for a while and now I sommer wake up in a different room! Anyway I'm hoping those dogs who subscribed to the dakar style fairing thread gets my update: After removing the fairing plug from the bike and having started some straightening out with body-filler, I noticed some issues with the symmetry. This I only realised once I set the plug up on a marking table over centre lines and started measing points with a height vernier etc. The 1980-ish look of the fairing also bothered me somewhat.
To cut a long story short I started from scratch and here's the basic concept. It's aff the bike already and measured up 100% !! So shaping continues to get that mould done before my holiday expires.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: cloudgazer on June 30, 2011, 05:36:42 pm
The 1980-ish look of the fairing also bothered me somewhat.


Its what i thought, but didn't want to say - I'm glad you said it.

New shape looks a million times better.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on June 30, 2011, 08:53:59 pm
The 1980-ish look of the fairing also bothered me somewhat.


Its what i thought, but didn't want to say - I'm glad you said it.

New shape looks a million times better.  :thumleft:


+1 :thumleft: :thumleft: Looking very nice. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 30, 2011, 08:59:25 pm
Lookin good! A 990ish look to it. People are gonna ask you where you get a yellow KTM
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: SuperDavexlv750r on July 04, 2011, 03:56:15 pm
I have a DR650R - supposedly a DAKAR model.

Has the piece below the tank giving it the look of a larger tank - 1992 model.

Do you think I could fit this to my bike?

If so imagine making it orange LOL?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: letsgofishing on July 05, 2011, 05:00:30 pm
The 1980-ish look of the fairing also bothered me somewhat.


Its what i thought, but didn't want to say - I'm glad you said it.

New shape looks a million times better.  :thumleft:


New shape looks a million times better.  :thumleft:

+100!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: ChristoffGS on July 05, 2011, 05:06:37 pm
Looks good  :thumleft:  Is it just me or does the 'windscreen' part look a bit too high?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Roadcat on July 06, 2011, 10:51:08 am
We need more pics! Please let us see what it looks like from the front and at an off-set angle!

 :useless:
                                                                          ^
                                                                        MORE

Haha, see what I did there!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on July 06, 2011, 12:34:17 pm
We need more pics! Please let us see what it looks like from the front and at an off-set angle!

 :useless:
                                                                          ^
                                                                        MORE

Haha, see what I did there!


There you go
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on July 06, 2011, 12:42:39 pm
Looks good  :thumleft:  Is it just me or does the 'windscreen' part look a bit too high?

Nope, it's just you  ;). I made it too high so it can be trimmed down as aal riders prefer different action from their fairings depending on rider height, riding style etc. Most guys would want to cut a center section out to insert clear panel too.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on July 06, 2011, 12:56:31 pm
I have a DR650R - supposedly a DAKAR model.

Has the piece below the tank giving it the look of a larger tank - 1992 model.

Do you think I could fit this to my bike?

If so imagine making it orange LOL?

I had a look at pics of your model DR. I guess its a steel tank. The fairing can be cut to fit the edge of your tank, but fitting will be limited to Sika-flex straight onto the steel + bracket from headstock. Stick vynil over tank before Sika-flex goes on to make removal effortless in future because Sika sticks like nothing else!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: SuperDavexlv750r on July 06, 2011, 01:46:23 pm
Thanks for that TC.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: N[]vA on July 06, 2011, 01:51:50 pm
I will be keen to see how this project turns out
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on July 06, 2011, 07:20:00 pm
I will be keen to see how this project turns out

+1 :thumleft:

Looking good so far.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: axehead on July 06, 2011, 07:50:05 pm
Looks pretty cool. For some reason all the triangles remind me of this:

(http://sandyspadaro.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/stealth-bomber.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on July 06, 2011, 08:23:55 pm
+1 ;) :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on August 12, 2011, 11:28:29 am
Eventhough my DRZ is in the market I'm still working on the fairing. The plug is finally done so I'll have the mould ready by the end of August. If my bike is gone by then I'll need someone's Z to take final measurements which means that person gets first fairing cheap-cheap!

Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: NevMcGyver on August 15, 2011, 10:47:09 pm
I'm in the EC... and I'm interested to see the final product.
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: desert dueler on August 23, 2011, 08:26:59 am
hows the fairing going?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: andy 27 on August 23, 2011, 12:33:17 pm
Interested for a XR 600 honda. Pls let's c pics
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on August 23, 2011, 01:14:44 pm
Sorry guys, I'm spending too much time on the paths at drift sands lately and had some spectacular wipe-outs too. Anyone have a spare original indicator perhaps? New = R570 FFS!

Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: N[]vA on August 23, 2011, 03:19:04 pm
Sorry guys, I'm spending too much time on the paths at drift sands lately and had some spectacular wipe-outs too. Anyone have a spare original indicator perhaps? New = R570 FFS!


dont bother with originals, can replace all 4 for that money
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on August 24, 2011, 10:02:56 am
Sorry guys, I'm spending too much time on the paths at drift sands lately and had some spectacular wipe-outs too. Anyone have a spare original indicator perhaps? New = R570 FFS!


dont bother with originals, can replace all 4 for that money

I was shocked to find that new indicators for DL's and DRZ's cost R570 each. Please check for sale thread for offer on mine.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=76567.0
 
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: punisher on September 26, 2011, 06:11:54 pm
how far is the fairing ???
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Bring It On on September 26, 2011, 10:08:23 pm
how far is the fairing ???

Also wondered about it as well. Things have been a little quiet.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Wildcoast on September 27, 2011, 03:12:19 pm
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: mtbbiker on November 13, 2011, 07:43:58 pm
Any news\progress.

I have finaly started working on my prototype. See page 3 on the following link
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=54687.40;topicseen

Any ideas for lights ?
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on June 27, 2012, 05:05:15 pm
I've just bought Kykdaar's DRZ. The bike's life is well documented in this section.
I'm sure this fairing project will restart as soon as I get my hands on that boney!

Delay caused by bike write-off, broken collar bone and a 9 month 660 Tenere-experience. Soon to be back on a winner - can't wait!
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: LouisXander on January 09, 2013, 10:11:09 am
Het jy nou al weer met die fairing idee begin speel, of het die enjin werk joute besig gehou?

Dankie vir die hulp met die kyk van daai DRz, ek waardeur. Laat weet as ek iets diekant moet gaan loer vir jou.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: Torque Curve on January 11, 2013, 09:04:40 am
Nee, ek het mos so klein faring wat vasmaak aan die headlight cover, maar gebruik dit min want ek ry meestal off-road met die bike. Was gister en eergister deur die Baviaans, Willowmore, Steytlerville en Grootrivierpoort-roete met my DRZ en daai ekstra perde van 462cc was nogal welkom. Verbruik was tussen 16 en 18 km/l.
Ek sal nog fotos van daai ander DRZ vir jou stuur sodat jy kan sien hoekom ek dink die ding is verwaarloos.
Title: Re: Fairing mould dakar style
Post by: LouisXander on January 11, 2013, 09:54:16 am
Als reg, gaan die naweek kyk na n Dogs s'n in Roodepoort, onder 6000km's, hoop hy is reg.