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Title: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 11, 2010, 01:50:10 pm
May of 2010, a 2005 DRZ 400 E with 21000km on the clock.

3x3 Mod, bars and raisers, hand guards, stock pipe without any insides.

Here's my new bike:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/DRZ%20400%20E/IMG_1694.jpg)

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Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 12, 2010, 01:28:41 pm
All the 2003 and later models had no issues with the ACCT

good to know. i am servicing my bike with n[]va today, will do jetting and dyno this week, then i'll stop whining and worrying so much :)

is wes's bike running yet?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 13, 2010, 12:36:28 pm
sometimes, if i'm quite low down in the rev range and i suddenly whack open the throttle the bike makes a dull thud 'duh' kinda noise and it sounds like it misfires, so the bike jerks and slows down- its a similar to feeling to accelerating fast and hitting neutral instead of second. is that jerking because its running lean and is misfiring? i'm getting it jetted/dyno'd tomorrow. its happened 5 or 6 times now. it only happens with a sudden change from cruising to throttle wide open.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 13, 2010, 12:55:45 pm
sometimes, if i'm quite low down in the rev range and i suddenly whack open the throttle the bike makes a dull thud 'duh' kinda noise and it sounds like it misfires, so the bike jerks and slows down- its a similar to feeling to accelerating fast and hitting neutral instead of second. is that jerking because its running lean and is misfiring? i'm getting it jetted/dyno'd tomorrow. its happened 5 or 6 times now. it only happens with a sudden change from cruising to throttle wide open.
Could be the jetting there is a big difference between the coast and GP, does it pop or backfire when you gear down with the throttle closed ?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 13, 2010, 02:21:36 pm
Could be the jetting there is a big difference between the coast and GP, does it pop or backfire when you gear down with the throttle closed ?

yes. loud whipping/cracking noise when i close the throttle, happens more often with a cold engine. that sounds kinda cool though :) so jetting/dyno will fix that?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 13, 2010, 07:08:15 pm
Could be the jetting there is a big difference between the coast and GP, does it pop or backfire when you gear down with the throttle closed ?

yes. loud whipping/cracking noise when i close the throttle, happens more often with a cold engine. that sounds kinda cool though :) so jetting/dyno will fix that?
Yes you are running lean, at altitude you need more air and less fuel. Other way around at the coast, too lean can be bad for a motor. Get the ketting done  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 13, 2010, 10:45:43 pm
Yes you are running lean, at altitude you need more air and less fuel. Other way around at the coast, too lean can be bad for a motor. Get the ketting done  :thumleft:

Thought so. Jetting will be done tomorrow :) thanks! I've run it for about a week now, and generally not too hard, so hoping there won't be any lasting effect.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Bus on June 14, 2010, 08:03:18 am
sometimes, if i'm quite low down in the rev range and i suddenly whack open the throttle the bike makes a dull thud 'duh' kinda noise and it sounds like it misfires, so the bike jerks and slows down- its a similar to feeling to accelerating fast and hitting neutral instead of second. is that jerking because its running lean and is misfiring? i'm getting it jetted/dyno'd tomorrow. its happened 5 or 6 times now. it only happens with a sudden change from cruising to throttle wide open.

Thats called a "bog"

Your jetting needs to be richened and your accelerator pump might need a slight adjustment.

Keep us updated...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 14, 2010, 10:53:36 am
Thats called a "bog"

Your jetting needs to be richened and your accelerator pump might need a slight adjustment.

Keep us updated...

RE: the bog. Julian said its a flat-slide carb issue, if i remember right he said he'll replace the accelerator pump with a better one to fix that problem. But the jetting and valve clearance setting turns out to be quite an expensive project! Jetting will be done once finances allow :(

What size back tires do you guys fix on the zook? on the web the specs say REAR: 110/100-18 but thats a rather small tire...? I've got a 120/80 on the back now, it looks rather silly, also sizing up will increase my top speed, yeah?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 14, 2010, 12:30:54 pm
I usually run the Maxxis M6006

I have tried the 130 and 140 width. I couldnt find a 140 so I fit a 130 instead.

I wouldnt go smaller than 130 again... it looks crap and doesnt last

130 refers to width: does the other measurement matter, the aspect ratio? because mine is a 120 / 80, i want to go 130 or 140 wide, but also want to get a tire with x / 100, but cant find bigger than 130 / 90 or 140 / 90 neither are offered in x / 100.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 19, 2010, 09:14:47 pm
radiator maintenance: so in the spirit of learning more about my bike and trying to take good care of it, i stripped off the radiators today. I have them drained and will fill them will an equal mix of distilled water and anti freeze. I have run water through them, to try and rinse out some of the gunk. Should I do anything else to them while they are off? there are no leaks and very little damage to the fins on the radiator.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 20, 2010, 10:34:52 am
radiator maintenance: so in the spirit of learning more about my bike and trying to take good care of it, i stripped off the radiators today. I have them drained and will fill them will an equal mix of distilled water and anti freeze. I have run water through them, to try and rinse out some of the gunk. Should I do anything else to them while they are off? there are no leaks and very little damage to the fins on the radiator.
No don't fix something that is not broken  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 20, 2010, 11:27:20 pm
Techie question:

This weekend I drained, checked, flushed and then refilled my radiators. Very easy to do. I filled up the radiators and started the bike. It stalled and died, cold start, and made a very ugly metal on metal noise. I also checked the oil level just after that, and there was NO oil on the dip stick. I took it for a ride and then checked the oil, oil level was fine after that. SO: how does the fluid flow in the bike work? I know the oil doesn't move properly unless the bike has been ridden. So when I run the bike in the garage can I damage it if I run for too long? Does idling the bike damage it as the oil doesn't move around the engine (like in the morning, I'll start it with the choke on and run it for a few seconds)?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on June 21, 2010, 07:16:41 am
Techie question:

This weekend I drained, checked, flushed and then refilled my radiators. Very easy to do. I filled up the radiators and started the bike. It stalled and died, cold start, and made a very ugly metal on metal noise. I also checked the oil level just after that, and there was NO oil on the dip stick. I took it for a ride and then checked the oil, oil level was fine after that. SO: how does the fluid flow in the bike work? I know the oil doesn't move properly unless the bike has been ridden. So when I run the bike in the garage can I damage it if I run for too long? Does idling the bike damage it as the oil doesn't move around the engine (like in the morning, I'll start it with the choke on and run it for a few seconds)?
Dry sump setup if standing oil drains to engine and when you check the oil on dipstick in frame it will be low. That is why Suzuki recommends to let it idle or run for three minutes then wait three and then check it. Bit of a mission to check oil but it's critical on those bikes. The ugly metal sound is just from the starter motor as it disengaged. You won't hurt the bike as there will always be oil in the motor at startup (at least there should be even if level is low) I much prefer a sight glass like on the 525.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 22, 2010, 12:12:20 pm
So being ultimate cheap-ass (i.e. poor), i found a second hand DRZ clarke tank for sale. What is fair price for it? Given they retail for $200 new. I can get a brand new one from Clarke landed for $265. This guy is in Hong Kong and reckons shipping will be anywhere from $50-$70. He was asking $175 for it and had no offers over a month, the only response he had was one guy saying he was charging too much, and me. I am thinking of offering him $170 and then he covers shipping.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 22, 2010, 12:16:25 pm
and the guy selling the tank is called jim hendrix  O0
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on June 23, 2010, 09:44:16 am
...a brand new one from Clarke landed for $265...
US$200 PLUS South African VAT 14% = US$228
plus US$65 shipment = US$ 293
plus R25 customs clearance fee
plus R ??? clearing agent fee (you might be lucky and get away without it)

You will also have to pay VAT, clearance fee etc. for your importred second hand tank.
If your seller does not do the customs paperwork & invoicing correctly this will become a can tank of worms.
And then it's still a used tank ???

I'd rather save for another month.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: the_wes on June 23, 2010, 09:52:11 am
...a brand new one from Clarke landed for $265...
US$200 PLUS South African VAT 14% = US$228
plus US$65 shipment = US$ 293
plus R25 customs clearance fee
plus R ??? clearing agent fee (you might be lucky and get away without it)

You will also have to pay VAT, clearance fee etc. for your importred second hand tank.
If your seller does not do the customs paperwork & invoicing correctly this will become a can tank of worms.
And then it's still a used tank ???

I'd rather save for another month.

I never paid a clearance fee nor used a clearing agent... just VAT.... I would go for the new tank rather, peace of mind
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 23, 2010, 10:02:27 am
Paid $190 for my tank and $40 shipping, and R300 when they brought it to my house, thats all
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 23, 2010, 06:39:26 pm
Paid $190 for my tank and $40 shipping, and R300 when they brought it to my house, thats all

How did you get them to bring it to your house? that sounds like the deal :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on June 23, 2010, 09:34:17 pm
Its part of thumpertalks shipping thing, cheapest option
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 25, 2010, 09:42:51 am
Maxxis back tire = scary shit. but strangely fun. Driving on a moderately damp road this morning geared down, the back locked up and i started sliding sideways (+-40kms/hour) at the car parked about 3 meters away. quick thinking, clutch, front brake, adjust and i went around him. i am getting good at letting the back tire slide about :)

I love my bike :)

the dude with the second hand tank wants to charge me $265. That is more/the same as what TT will charge me for a brand new tank. Chop. I will be waiting a few months and then doing a large order from them.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 28, 2010, 09:29:36 am
BUMP. hahaha.

I am trying to re-install the tank on my bike, took it off to thread the HID wiring. and I am succeeding in threading the two screws on either side quite badly. Is there some trick to putting the tank bank on? I get the screws 3/4 of the way in and then they just get stuck.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on June 28, 2010, 09:52:10 am
No idea why you should have that problem.
Are the screws or the holes stripped?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 28, 2010, 10:10:01 am
No idea why you should have that problem.
Are the screws or the holes stripped?

the screws looked fine, will spray Q20 on the screws and into the holes and try again later. but the screw heads were quite threaded already. maybe the holes are full of grit or something.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 29, 2010, 08:51:21 am
Throttle cables routed wrong, some wiring in the way etc etc.

I bought new bolts and that sorted the problem out :) the bolts that were in there were not the Suzuki ones. Neither are the new ones, but they fit better and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3.

I have a terrible problem. Whenever I strip my bike I lose bolts or confuse where they are meant to go. Two bolts just disappeared this time. So the new bolts went into the tank and the old ones had to go into the mounts for my luggage  racks.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 29, 2010, 10:44:40 am
Throttle cables routed wrong, some wiring in the way etc etc.

I bought new bolts and that sorted the problem out :) the bolts that were in there were not the Suzuki ones. Neither are the new ones, but they fit better and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3.

I have a terrible problem. Whenever I strip my bike I lose bolts or confuse where they are meant to go. Two bolts just disappeared this time. So the new bolts went into the tank and the old ones had to go into the mounts for my luggage  racks.
o.O!

better make a habbit of noting where bolts go, use differant plastic cups/tubs or what ever and keep every thing as it should be
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on June 29, 2010, 11:30:57 am
Throttle cables routed wrong, some wiring in the way etc etc.

I bought new bolts and that sorted the problem out :) the bolts that were in there were not the Suzuki ones. Neither are the new ones, but they fit better and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3.

I have a terrible problem. Whenever I strip my bike I lose bolts or confuse where they are meant to go. Two bolts just disappeared this time. So the new bolts went into the tank and the old ones had to go into the mounts for my luggage  racks.
o.O!

better make a habbit of noting where bolts go, use differant plastic cups/tubs or what ever and keep every thing as it should be

or take pics when you disassemble something
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 29, 2010, 11:52:41 am
Throttle cables routed wrong, some wiring in the way etc etc.

I bought new bolts and that sorted the problem out :) the bolts that were in there were not the Suzuki ones. Neither are the new ones, but they fit better and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3.

I have a terrible problem. Whenever I strip my bike I lose bolts or confuse where they are meant to go. Two bolts just disappeared this time. So the new bolts went into the tank and the old ones had to go into the mounts for my luggage  racks.
o.O!

better make a habbit of noting where bolts go, use differant plastic cups/tubs or what ever and keep every thing as it should be

or take pics when you disassemble something
Yep that too.

I did that with my 990 for every thing, untill I learnt to remember it all. nowadays I have a full workshop manual on my tablet pc every time I do anything
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on July 01, 2010, 10:16:26 am
A T-bar & 30mm socket and a piece of fence pipe.
The shiftie is perfect to ruin the nut & strip skin off knuckles.

You'll need the socket to tighten the nut too as you don't get torque wrench shifties ;D

... and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3...

Take a close look at your R 3 bolts.

If the heads are marked with 4.5 ; 4.6; 4.8 or 5.6 or don't have any markings at all throw them away, book as R3 lesson learned and buy decent bolts:

Decent quality bolts carry markings like 8.8 , 10.9 , and 12.9
Decent quality stainless bolts are marked A2-70 or A4-80

Wrote a detailed thread about this a while ago.

Quintessence: Do not buy bolts from the Builders Warehouse and stainless is NOT always a good idea.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 01, 2010, 10:37:29 am
A T-bar & 30mm socket and a piece of fence pipe.
The shiftie is perfect to ruin the nut & strip skin off knuckles.

You'll need the socket to tighten the nut too as you don't get torque wrench shifties ;D

... and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3...

Take a close look at your R 3 bolts.

If the heads are marked with 4.5 ; 4.6; 4.8 or 5.6 or don't have any markings at all throw them away, book as R3 lesson learned and buy decent bolts:

Decent quality bolts carry markings like 8.8 , 10.9 , and 12.9
Decent quality stainless bolts are marked A2-70 or A4-80

Wrote a detailed thread about this a while ago.

Quintessence: Do not buy bolts from the Builders Warehouse and stainless is NOT always a good idea.

I think they all say 4.6 on them :( they are from 'bolt-it' the industrial fasteners shop in Diep River. Where is that thread? I want to learn more about bolts.

I need to invest in some decent tools. I only have basic spanners, screwdrivers and allan-keys. I want to get a sprocket/ratchet set next. What is the difference between that and a T-Bar? Where can I get this stuff that isn't going to cost me a fortune? :(

Thanks Jurgen  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 03, 2010, 10:42:06 am
So crossed-up very generously helped me to fit my chain and sprockets today. Turns out I was riding a 15-45. I am now riding a 14-44. Which feels kind of the same, a little shorter but not much...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: grego on July 03, 2010, 12:02:51 pm
A T-bar & 30mm socket and a piece of fence pipe.
The shiftie is perfect to ruin the nut & strip skin off knuckles.

You'll need the socket to tighten the nut too as you don't get torque wrench shifties ;D

... and for 16 assorted bolts it cost R3...

Take a close look at your R 3 bolts.

If the heads are marked with 4.5 ; 4.6; 4.8 or 5.6 or don't have any markings at all throw them away, book as R3 lesson learned and buy decent bolts:

Decent quality bolts carry markings like 8.8 , 10.9 , and 12.9
Decent quality stainless bolts are marked A2-70 or A4-80

Wrote a detailed thread about this a while ago.

Quintessence: Do not buy bolts from the Builders Warehouse and stainless is NOT always a good idea.

I think they all say 4.6 on them :( they are from 'bolt-it' the industrial fasteners shop in Diep River. Where is that thread? I want to learn more about bolts.

I need to invest in some decent tools. I only have basic spanners, screwdrivers and allan-keys. I want to get a sprocket/ratchet set next. What is the difference between that and a T-Bar? Where can I get this stuff that isn't going to cost me a fortune? :(

Thanks Jurgen  :thumleft:
Bolt-it in Dipe River sometimes has some nice socket sets on special.
Also try Makro. Get something decent (that has a lifetime warranty).
I find you ideally need 2 sockets sets for a bike... a 1/2'' drive set for the big bolts (suspension, engine mounts, chasis bolts) and a 1/4'' set for the smaller bolts as access is usually a problem with the big 1/2'' sockets. Usually 1/4'' sets go up to a 13mm socket... so if most of the work you are doing involves smaller bolts (13mm head and under) get a 1/4'' set to start.
you can always buy a 1/2'' drive later and just buy individual sockets as you need them.

The people at Bolt it are pretty helpful, so next time tell them what you'll be using the bolts for and they'll give you something better suited to the application.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 08, 2010, 11:03:24 pm
So, finally finished my HID install  :thumleft:

It took me about 2 weeks to do, on and off, I rode with the ballast taped to my speedo for a few days as well!

Thanks to Crossed-up for the all the install help.

I bought a cheapo HID kit from China Town for R350.

I bought a super-cool Polisport shroud from Bus.

The first problem was fitting the bulb into the shroud. I used the polisport bulb holder, removed the bulb and pushed the HID bulb through the middle. Some tape and silicone sealed it up and keeps it in place :)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1768.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1769.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1770.jpg)

Another problem with the polisport shroud is it 'leaks' alot of light out the top, so at night the HID reflects into my eyes. I solved this by putting black tape over the bit of the lens that shows from the top.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1773.jpg)

Then i had to move the wires out the way of the way, I simply moved the clutch cable to the outside of the wires and this pulled everything towards the bike (yes, I thought it was smart too, just hope it doesn't break anything).

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1774.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1775.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1776.jpg)

Then in comes crossed-up, he gave me a piece of ally and then helped me bend and cut it to look like this.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1771.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1772.jpg)

Double-sided tape and some cable ties secured the HID ballast to the crossed-up metal plate.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1777.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1778.jpg)

And then with some fiddling I put it all back together. See:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1779.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1780.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1783.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1786.jpg)

And that is my first real 'mod' on my bike. Yes its fairly simple to do and there are more pics than needed but it rocks :) it's KARK bright. Obnoxiously so. There is actually a noticeable difference in traffic, cars in front of me move much quickly out my way.

And here is an image of it on, it doesn't do it justice. I got a severe headache taking this picture. NICE :)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/HID/IMG_1790.jpg)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Slowmow on July 09, 2010, 01:09:21 am
Please post a pic or two of the light in action. Down the road, against a wall. Use dim in one set of pics and bright in another set.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 09, 2010, 10:24:44 am
Please post a pic or two of the light in action. Down the road, against a wall. Use dim in one set of pics and bright in another set.

Will do tonight, but the difference between dim and bright is simply the angle of the light :) as far as I can tell there's no difference in light emission.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 09, 2010, 10:28:58 am
Please post a pic or two of the light in action. Down the road, against a wall. Use dim in one set of pics and bright in another set.

Will do tonight, but the difference between dim and bright is simply the angle of the light :) as far as I can tell there's no difference in light emission.
yep, it just lifts the buld up for brights
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 09, 2010, 11:09:07 pm
yeah, looking at it again tonight it looks fairly waterproof... I may cling-film it but nothing more.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 12, 2010, 12:46:18 am
I drowned my DRZ today on an epic outride (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=52659)... I will be draining the oil tomorrow. Teach me how to undrown a bike?

So far I know:
1) drain oil
2) remove plugs (buy new ones?)

I know engine flush should be used (how?) and then drain it, put in cheap oil, 15-20km ride, drain it, put in good oil.

What bits am I missing? (except for the technical know-how?!)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: TVB on July 12, 2010, 04:57:10 am
You got it pretty much summarized. If you have a washable air filter, was and dry and ad air filter oil – or replace if paper element. You don’t need to replace the spark plug, make use of the opportunity and check the gab and clean the ‘electrode. If the air cleaner got flooded, you’ll have to clean the carb (not sure if your bike is carb or EFI)as well, there should be a drain screw (not sure about the DRZ) at the bottom of the carb.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 12, 2010, 11:14:29 am
What size plug spanners does this bike take? I am borrowing from a friend and don't have time to work it out before I need to go fetch them!?!?!

DRZ simming = fail.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=52677.0
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 12, 2010, 11:15:11 am
What size plug spanners does this bike take? I am borrowing from a friend and don't have time to work it out before I need to go fetch them!?!?!

DRZ simming = fail.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=52677.0
17 or wait 13...

any how what ever the size I have one you can borrow
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 01:49:39 am
as mentioned elsewhere, i dropped my bike in some water this weekend.

i have since drained the oil, full of mud and water and weird shit. and will put in cheap oil, engine flush, and cheap filter, run it for 20kms and drain again. then i'll put in the good stuff. i have also drained the carb and will do air filter tomorrow.

BUT

there seems to water around the spark plug, which worries me much more, i tipped the bike basically upside down (with no oil or spark plug) in it and nothing came out. how do i dry the inside of the cylinder? i put the bike in fifth and pushed it about 10 meters, without the plug in, but again no sign of water.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on July 13, 2010, 08:38:21 am
Crank the motor (with spark-plug removed) with the starter for a few seconds.  This swings the motor fast enough to get rid of almost all the water. Put the plug back in.  Make sure the engine has got oil in it and fire it up.  As long as the remaining water in the cylinder is appreciably less than the minimum swept volume it will be ejected on the first exhaust stroke when the engine fires.  In your bike's case the minimum swept volume is something like 40cc.
I don't know if your bike has a carb or FI.  If carb you should clean it.  You should also carefully drain a bit of fuel out of your tank into a glass jar to check there is no water in the fuel.  Water is denser than petrol and so you need to drain from the lowest point.  If there's water in the fuel it means it's also in the fuel pump and fuel line.  This is further PT.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 10:14:17 am
Thanks John. How do I clean the carb? I've drained whatever was in there using the drainage screw and then tipped the bike over so there's no fuel in it. will drain out 500ml from the tank just to be sure. Then run it with carb/fuel line cleaner- will that do the trick? Or do i need to remove the carb and learn how to clean it properly?

Apart from stripping one bolt this has been fairly easy.

Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on July 13, 2010, 11:25:58 am
I would strongly advise you not to learn carburettor maintenance on your highly strung DRZ.  (Practise on somebody else's lawn mower first.)  If you've drained the float chamber that will be enough, I hope.  If you've run a bit of fuel out of your tank and it looks OK that might also be good enough.  I would only do more on the fuel system if it won't start or run properly.  Then the fun starts.

I suppose that it's unlikely that you will harm your engine if the fuel is contaminated, but you will wreck it if there's the slightest problem with the oil.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 11:47:59 am
I would strongly advise you not to learn carburettor maintenance on your highly strung DRZ.  (Practise on somebody else's lawn mower first.)  If you've drained the float chamber that will be enough, I hope.  If you've run a bit of fuel out of your tank and it looks OK that might also be good enough.  I would only do more on the fuel system if it won't start or run properly.  Then the fun starts.

I suppose that it's unlikely that you will harm your engine if the fuel is contaminated, but you will wreck it if there's the slightest problem with the oil.
:imaposer: :imaposer: ok. will try fire it up later on today!!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on July 13, 2010, 12:09:48 pm
All depends on how well you sank the bike.

Fully submerged until engine died is nasty.
Did you drain out water and start the bike immediately after submerging?

I would not ride the bike if there is a chance that you still have water in your oil. Rather warm up engine whilst idling & watch consistency and colour of oil. As soon as oil turns to milk coffee stop & drain. Replace oil until it remains oily. To save some cost & resources you may run the engine without oil filter after the first oil & filter change until you put your final oil fill in.

Worst case scenario is drowned in sea water. Involves flushing with diesel. No fun. Have fixed a number of salvaged outboard engines ::)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 12:27:23 pm
ok. so far:

dropped the oil. filled with diesel. took out plug. pushed it up the road in fifth. water came shooting out the cylinder.

so there is water above and below piston. will drain diesel and replace with oil ASAP. then try start it without the plug in.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 12:43:14 pm
Thanks n[]va. will go buy one as soon as i have cash.

is there a way for water to be in my oil and in my cylinder that doesn't involve going via the rings and gaskets? i have water both sides of the piston and am worried this means i need to do a rebuild.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 13, 2010, 12:51:40 pm
Thanks n[]va. will go buy one as soon as i have cash.

is there a way for water to be in my oil and in my cylinder that doesn't involve going via the rings and gaskets? i have water both sides of the piston and am worried this means i need to do a rebuild.

to the crank via the air box venting tube and to the cylinder via the carb as I understand it? I might be wrong though, give it a few minutes and zee Germans are sure to correct me :D

Call Jurgen and ask his advice, knows his technical shit uber well
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 13, 2010, 12:57:47 pm
Thanks n[]va. will go buy one as soon as i have cash.

is there a way for water to be in my oil and in my cylinder that doesn't involve going via the rings and gaskets? i have water both sides of the piston and am worried this means i need to do a rebuild.

WTF? Whats happening?

http://www.youtube.com/v/7CxUThRW7H0
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: LouisXander on July 13, 2010, 03:11:06 pm
Phew!!

Hope you get it fixed ASAP! :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 05:30:45 pm
where does all the water come from?

drained out the diesel, i put in oil and flush and new filter. i pushed it round without the spark plug in, splashed lots of water out. then without the plug; swinging and swinging and swinging. all looked dry. closed it up. starter. no spark. huh. take out the plug. lots of water. swing: lots of water comes out  ??? hope i didn't damage anything. i swung it for less than 30 seconds when it was closed up.

battery is now flat. will jump it and swing some more.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: TVB on July 13, 2010, 05:49:13 pm
Ouch...hope you dont have damage there! Doesn't sound healthy  :o
Hope by now she is up and running...?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 05:49:29 pm
Phew!!

Hope you get it fixed ASAP! :)

Thanks, its proving a bit of a challenge! trying to get all the water out of the cylinder.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 05:51:31 pm
Ouch...hope you dont have damage there! Doesn't sound healthy  :o
Hope by now she is up and running...?

No, that was in the last ten minutes or so... waiting for the jumper cables to come home (in the boot of my mother's car), then will start again. Also a little bit worried about all that swinging with the spark plug in. Didn't sound particularly good. sh*t.

How do i get all the water out of the cylinder?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Maverick on July 13, 2010, 06:02:13 pm
Sounds like you busy breaking it as you go along sorry to say  :bueller:

Get the bike on a stand or something. Take the spark plug out. Take the sump plug out. Get a funnel and fill the cylinder from the top through the spark plug hole until the diesel starts dripping through the bottom or it start overflowing from the top. Stick the bike in the highest gear and turn the rear wheel by hand slowly forward to work the diesel out top and bottom. Do this until only diesel comes out - that's what I would do.

Did you get water in the exhaust? Don't try and start that bike until you are sure there are no more water in the motor. If it sucked in muddy water or dirt you will run bearings quicker than you dropped it!

Good luck.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 06:28:31 pm
Sounds like you busy breaking it as you go along sorry to say  :bueller:

Get the bike on a stand or something. Take the spark plug out. Take the sump plug out. Get a funnel and fill the cylinder from the top through the spark plug hole until the diesel starts dripping through the bottom or it start overflowing from the top. Stick the bike in the highest gear and turn the rear wheel by hand slowly forward to work the diesel out top and bottom. Do this until only diesel comes out - that's what I would do.

Did you get water in the exhaust? Don't try and start that bike until you are sure there are no more water in the motor. If it sucked in muddy water or dirt you will run bearings quicker than you dropped it!

Good luck.

Thanks. that makes sense :) then how do i get the diesel out after?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 13, 2010, 07:39:09 pm
is there a way for water to be in my oil and in my cylinder that doesn't involve going via the rings and gaskets? i have water both sides of the piston and am worried this means i need to do a rebuild.

turn bike upside down put it in 5th and turn the wheel backwards.... that way you wont compress any water

at least in theory it should work to get any water out
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MalcolmX on July 13, 2010, 07:53:35 pm
Man that part in the end is a water roost and a half on milddog!!  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: mrhyde on July 13, 2010, 08:59:17 pm
I Suggest you give Mario from dirtrider a call for some advise. 021 5560356

I reckon you should flush that motor a couple of times. Dont run it for long with the 1st flush.

Im happy for you, that you didnt crank the engine after the water incident.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Sprocketbek on July 13, 2010, 09:13:20 pm
Did you drown it more than was shown in the video?

What I saw in the video was not terminal ingress. Looked more like HT or ignition system. When you guys towed it did you gooi it in gear and drop the clutch a few times?  ???
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 09:39:19 pm
dropped it in mud puddle later, but no more drowning than shown in video.

no, i've been doing that all day with the spark plug out, but no didn't drop the clutch while being towed.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on July 13, 2010, 09:42:10 pm
Did you take the head off?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 13, 2010, 10:04:41 pm
Did you take the head off?

no. just spark plug. dunno how to do head.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on July 13, 2010, 10:18:17 pm
It's pretty easy, I did it myself, just remove that magnesium cover on the top, then you will see the cams, remove cams, and then remove bolts that hold that hold the head, you will be at the piston then, if you were looking to get to it.

I downloaded the workshop manual, explains it pretty easy
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: mrhyde on July 13, 2010, 11:19:34 pm
I reckon just flush it a few more times...

you should be fine:D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Sprocketbek on July 13, 2010, 11:20:00 pm
It's pretty easy

Even with one hand? >:D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 14, 2010, 12:53:01 am
I reckon just flush it a few more times...

you should be fine:D

i am thinking so. just struggling to get the diesel/water out of the cylinder, but it seems to have brought up lots gunk/dirt so i'm happy i chucked the diesel in there. i just need to get above the piston dry so i can start washing through oil and all that.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: AntonDP on July 14, 2010, 11:19:35 am
The following was written by Hoofseun when Puddles drowned her bike a while back.

FIRST THING - Get out the water to a safe place.

The first thing we did was to get Zanda out the water and then to get the
bike out the water.


Lesson learned:  During this event the first action by all was to jump in
the water and start helping.  The net effect is that cell phones, watches,
cameras that were not in water proofing got damaged.


SECOND THING - Decide what to do?


Decide whether to try and drain water from system next to road or take
bike home.


We decided on the latter as it would be safer and there is no reason that
force the fixing of the bike next to the road, except for showing off my
"technical" skills.


Lesson learned:  The better option was to take it home as all tools are
available, no sand from clothes and hands can enter bike.  It is also
easier to dry all components and leave it at a safe place.


THIRD THING - Get the bike home


The option was to either call a friend or tow the bike home.  We decided
on the latter as it was important to act while there is still a lot of
andrenaline as well as not to further effect the groups ride out.


Lesson learned:  Have a good tow strap on "each" bike or at least one in
the group.  Must have towed before.  Pull away and stand-up immediatedly
(both riders) as it goves more control.  Rear bike brake front bike. Take
it "rustig".  Can towe through traffic and town.


FOURTH THING - Gather information


Phone as many friends as possible and get information.  Decide what works.


There was also and option to take it to dealer next day for them to fix.
Decided aainst it as this is a real situation that can happen anywhere.


Lesson learned - Getting all information before you start gives you better
options.


FIFTH THING - Start working


1)  Take the exhaust off and drain all water.
2)  Remove, drain and dry and clean all other things like lights etc.
3)  Take airbox off and get filter and all water out.  24 Hours later the
air filter was not dry yet.
4)  Take spark plugs out.
5)  Put bike on its side, even close to upside down to drain all water
that may be caught in funny places.
6)  Put dry (petrol free rags) around the spark plug leads - seems right
thing to keep sparks off motor.  Keep fire extinguisher handy.
7)  Drain water out of air inlets (carburators must be drained)
8)  Turn motor with starter motor to get water out cylinder head.
9)  Drain fuel.
10)  Check engine oil colour (it was fine after recovery but white after
above process).
11) Drain all oil from engine.
12) Remove oil filter and throw away.
13) Stand overnight to drain.


SIX THING - Start wrapping up


1)  Buy enough good oil.
2)  Buy two engine oil filters.
3)  Buy one air filter.
4)  Fit new oil filter.
5)  Add new oil to the right level.
6)  Let bike idle for 10 minutes.
7)  Drain engine oil.
8)  Clean oil filter.


Redo process 4 to 8 four times.


9)  Fit new oil filter.
10) Add right oil.
11) Put new air filter back.


SEVENTH THING


1) Test all components.
2) Have checked by knowledgeable person.
3) Test ride for two weeks as it is a good commuter and nice excuse to use
the wifes bike.


Lessons learned: Do a good job as you will have to rely on the bike in
some future trip.  Do not be in a hurry.  Standard air filter does not dry
that easily.  No water in oil after recovery does not mean no water in oil
after cleaning water from cylinders.  Draining oil one cycles does not
clean wall water.  Oil filter takes a lot of water with oil.


And as Riel said,  at string water crossings, stop and plan for it and
have someone ready assist in case of mishap.


Biggest lesson:  If in doubt that you will make it, do not do it.  There
are always other alternatives.


Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Maverick on July 14, 2010, 11:48:35 am

Thanks. that makes sense :) then how do i get the diesel out after?

If the sump plug is out the diesel should just come out  ??? We used to flush big hydrovane compressors this way as well. Just fill it up with diesel and then drain it until there is no sign of water. It is cheaper than flushing with actual oil. Small amount of diesel left in the engine won't do any damage as it is oil based in any case.

The thread from Hoofseun seems a good thorough method as well.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 14, 2010, 12:14:47 pm
I think water is still in the header and has been drawing back into the cylinder. I will take the exhaust off today and possibly admit that I need help and take it to Tim at TMC.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 14, 2010, 05:09:22 pm
It was water in the header! Took off the entire exhaust. Sput it a bit. reassembled it all and she works  O0 I never thought I'd be so happy to see smoke pouring out of my bike! she idles fine. Seems there was no damage. Now for a bunch of oil changes and back on the alternate route we go  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Maverick on July 14, 2010, 05:22:36 pm
Good to hear and happy the bike is running again  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 14, 2010, 06:29:47 pm
yeah me too! I'm awesomely happy. Thanks to all those involved! Tim, Crossed-up, N[]va, new guy and a bunch of others offered advice and comments :) thanks!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on July 14, 2010, 06:32:56 pm
Yayyy!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 15, 2010, 06:42:38 am
water went up through the exhaust into the cylinder and down via the airbox. in future take off the header when you dry out the airbox, i kept drying the cylinder and then water from the header would bounce up into the cylinder and undo my drying efforts :) my bike's running just fine. 3 oil changes and i'll be good to go!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Nomad on July 15, 2010, 06:37:01 pm
Where did you get the light from? Does it take a while to switch the brights on?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 15, 2010, 07:40:21 pm
Where did you get the light from? Does it take a while to switch the brights on?

I got it from a shopping centre called china town- big bulk importers from the far east. R350 for the kit, with 6 month guarantee. It turns on with the bike (half second delay), but it takes a little while to get to full brightness. It turns on instantly but it takes about 3-4 seconds to get to full bright.

I am posting one to another WD from GP, if you want one PM me and we can sort it out.
R350 for HID + R50 for my time + postage = +- R450.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Poffmuis on July 15, 2010, 09:33:52 pm
good to hear your up and running. make sure the bike is nice and hot when draining the oil and careful not to burn from the steam. open all filler/drain/breather plugs to ensure trapped steam can escape.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 15, 2010, 09:39:43 pm
good to hear your up and running. make sure the bike is nice and hot when draining the oil and careful not to burn from the steam. open all filler/drain/breather plugs to ensure trapped steam can escape.

thanks! the oil's getting clearer, done 2 changes so far, most oil comes out clean but the first 500ml is still coming out looking like a cappuccino, very dark with a bit of white foam on top.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Operator on July 16, 2010, 09:25:42 am
Milddog...............this whole episode must be a pain in the butt for you, but the spin-off is that you now know your bike more intimately and understand the ins and outs of it much better.

Maybe, someday in future this knowledge might help you (or another dawg) again.

Experience = Knowledge  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 16, 2010, 12:12:37 pm
Milddog...............this whole episode must be a pain in the butt for you, but the spin-off is that you now know your bike more intimately and understand the ins and outs of it much better.

Maybe, someday in future this knowledge might help you (or another dawg) again.

Experience = Knowledge  :thumleft:

Apart from the chemical burn on my hands and the financial cost, I have REALLY enjoyed this whole episode. Provided no permanent damage has been done to the bike I am completely happy, it's been fun learning how to strip the bike down, and I am happy I now know how to un-drown a bike. It's also a nice distraction from the rest of my life, which at the moment is a bit stressful :) But yes, if any dogs drown their bikes in the near future I am very happy to help out, if I can.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 16, 2010, 11:18:22 pm
I drowned the bike in a puddle over the weekend! So been rather busy with oil changes and such things.

I have a wiring problem somewhere on my bike, the lights are not turning on. Will find and fix soon.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 18, 2010, 10:45:34 pm
Ok. the bike lives.

so i will have used 12.5 liters of oil when this all over. i bought 10 liters for R180 (some horrible stuff from suburban spares) and then 2 liters of castrol actyvo for R120. i bought 5 oil filters, 4 kak and 1 decent, and have been using the kak ones and washing them in paraffin and re-using them. my bike takes 1.7 liters of oil so i have done 6 oil changes and 1 diesel wash so far. will do 2 more oil changes and be done with it.

there is almost no water left in the oil, which is now coming out clean except for white foam on top (before it was black with white foam). i'm also running the bike hotter and doing short trips to circulate the oil properly. i bought a trickle charger and have charged the battery, the first two days i was rolling down the hill at my house and bump starting the fark! i have also made a serious mess with the oil, will be cleaning that up once it's all done. and there is a connection problem somewhere with my HID light :( it's not working.

but the bike's running smooth again. i'll put some fuel system cleaner through it as soon as there is decent oil in the tank. i've also replaced the spark plug, the last one was black from corrosion and muck.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on July 19, 2010, 06:42:53 am
Great!  You probably need to put a bit of distance on the bike now.  The oil needs to get fully warmed for quite some time so that it can get rid of the volatile contaminants (water).  These are scavenged from the motor through the engine breather, into the air box and through the combustion process, and out the exhaust.  In the old days engines breathed directly into the atmosphere which simplified the process.  Now the health and safety police insist that we feed the kak from our engines through the carburetor and try to burn it.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 19, 2010, 09:07:19 am
I was thinking that the warm-ups between oil changes should get longer and longer now, so maybe ride it for a day, then two days, then a week, then a month, then 3000kms... but that's a lot of PT!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 19, 2010, 11:41:27 am
So I need to replace my head gasket, quick Q.

I have an athena head (400cc) do I need to get a head gasket from athen or just the stock one?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on July 19, 2010, 01:38:39 pm
If it's not an overbore, the stock should be fine.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on July 19, 2010, 11:25:10 pm
They are compatible (if not identical).
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 20, 2010, 01:27:20 pm
They are compatible (if not identical).
Thanks man
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 30, 2010, 03:03:19 pm
My brakes suck, well, the front end seems to lack stopping power on tar. I ride an E-model. I do have some cheap no-name tire up front, which may have a lot to do with it. What can I do to improve braking the most cost-effective way? Braided hoses? Wave rotors? What else?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on July 30, 2010, 03:27:02 pm
Try just bleeding the front, might have air in, mine did stoppies on a dime
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 30, 2010, 04:14:33 pm
Try just bleeding the front, might have air in, mine did stoppies on a dime

How do i do that? Air in the system is likely, I opened the front brake reservoir a little while back, thought it had a leak, and obviously when I closed it up again some fluid spilt.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 30, 2010, 04:17:26 pm
Try just bleeding the front, might have air in, mine did stoppies on a dime

How do i do that? Air in the system is likely, I opened the front brake reservoir a little while back, thought it had a leak, and obviously when I closed it up again some fluid spilt.
lol dude

I will explain how its done tonight :-p
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on July 31, 2010, 11:34:26 pm
Rather leave your hands off your brakes unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing.

That includes replacing brake pads.

::)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 05, 2010, 03:37:53 pm
well you just coated your stock one..... and went for jetting today.... so the only reason you would want one is to get more power?

Do you want a high powered bike or a reliable bike?

Im gonna stop playing mom now >.<

Thanks Mom.

There was a slight problem and I need to replace the end-can, I was very happy with the stock pipe with the coating, but it's been damaged. I wasn't necessarily looking for more power!

Julian is awesome. I had such a cool morning hanging out there watching him dyno my bike.

I think I am going with the Scorch Oval pipe.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 05, 2010, 05:49:13 pm
I must just say, I freaking LOVE my DRZ. it's such an awesome little thing. I will post pics of my various 'mods' of late. HID and polisport headlamp shroud, ceramic coated header, scorch tail pipe, metal-bar handguards. with put on a UFX Polisport front fender and smaller indicators in the coming months :) then I suppose I should learn how to ride!!!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 06, 2010, 06:25:32 pm
OK, so earlier this week I had my exhaust ceramic coated. It is the stock DRZ end-can, that has been gutted. It looked quite miff and was covered in old mud. They ceramic coated it a nice shiny shilver, it set me back R430-odd. Which is quite a bit.

When I took delivery of the exhaust I noted that my header nut and bolt were gone, I handed in the exhaust with these two attached. I told their head guy and he said they would replace them, I drove straight to Suzuki South, bought them and then sent the invoice to the exahust people. Cost me about an hour of my time and some petrol, I billed them the R60 for the nut and bolt.

Then I fit the exhaust and ride out to Superbike Solutions, it's about a 20/30 minute ride. As I get about 5 minutes away my bike starts to sound like it's dieing. I am thinking 'fark, my big end bearing is gone', and I want to cry. The noise gets worse, weird rattling, uneven idling, backfiring, but strangely the bike still rides fine.

I get there and I see that the end cap of the exhaust has fallen off- they did not fasten it back on properly when they treated the exhaust. So the end cap has fallen off and ripped one of the threads out the back of the can, and tearing the gasket in half. Also, they removed the gasket from the header pipe (partly my fault because I did not notice when I put the pipe back on), so that has rattled loose, the header bracket is bouncing around and scratching the pipe and the two new nuts have fallen off.

I phone them immediately and tell them what has happened. The owner flips and starts swearing about his staff and then promises to pay for whatever it costs.

I get home phone scorch and phone suzuki, get prices and draft him a nice mail about it all. I ask him to pay for the new exhaust end-can, which is R2000 and the header gasket, which I guess is R50-R100, I offer to pay for the bolts that fell off because I didn't see the gasket was misisng.

Today he phones me and rather aggressively tells me I am being unreasonable and he's not paying R2000 for an exhaust that 'in his opinion is worth R200'. I feel bad asking him for R2000, but he damaged my exhaust and so should replace it.

We've chatted again and he reckons he will repair my end-can and not replace it. Is this fair? Should I push for the new tail pipe or accept a repair? If I had broken the pipe and was paying for it I would repair it, but I didn't, and I am not happy about having them break my pipe, even though the break is minor. However, I want to do what is honest/fair/acceptable in the industry under these circumstances?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: man0war on August 06, 2010, 06:43:43 pm
the pipe wasn't new to start with, so as long as the repair is done properly, i would not have a problem with them fixing it. it is their way of "fixing" their mistake.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Tyre kicker on August 06, 2010, 07:10:45 pm
the pipe wasn't new to start with, so as long as the repair is done properly, i would not have a problem with them fixing it. it is their way of "fixing" their mistake.

I do not agree with this as the oldest trick in the book is to say that it was not new to start off with.Well anything older than a day is no longer new anymore!

To some people an "old" object may well be worth more and in better condition than another persons almost new,replacement product  or even his new.
The fact remains that quality of work and customer satisfaction should be first and formost priority.

I believe that a person should be held fully accountable if he has the privilege of doing a job for me when I am rewarding him in turn for it.
Imagine if a surgeon f&cked up and has the same attitude as this guy."His eyesight was poor anyway????????It was not new to start off with!!!!!!!!"
As for his CRM skills well I guess you now know what to expect next time.I sure as hell would not visit him again. ;)

Infact because of his attitude I will tell as many people as I can of his "GREAT"service.
 

 
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 06, 2010, 07:17:09 pm
I must just say, I freaking LOVE my DRZ. it's such an awesome little thing. I will post pics of my various 'mods' of late. HID and polisport headlamp shroud, ceramic coated header, scorch tail pipe, metal-bar handguards. with put on a UFX Polisport front fender and smaller indicators in the coming months :) then I suppose I should learn how to ride!!!

GPS?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on August 06, 2010, 08:02:02 pm
I do not understand, Milddog, what was there that the coating people had to put together for you? They do coatings on articles you take to them, or do they also remove, coat and refit?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 06, 2010, 08:18:29 pm
Did the end cap fall off? You can just buy a replacement cap, the drz one screws on with allen head screws
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: man0war on August 06, 2010, 08:43:05 pm
comparing a bike's exhaust with a surgeon, well that's like comparing nathaniel with madona. what i would want, and i don't think it would be unreasonable, is to be no worse off than i was before. i would not expect to be better off than before, but at least compensated for my inconvenience of having to bring the items back again. something like refunding me for the job and making sure that the repairs are done 100%.

if you take your car in for a service and the guys test drive and ding it, do you expect them to replace it, or repair it.

all i am saying is that we all have to be reasonable, both client and service provider. milddog, you have to decide what is reasonable to you and what will make you happy.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Operator on August 06, 2010, 08:50:05 pm
R5300 for a Suzuki Exhaust  :o :o :o :o :o :o\

For that price you can put on a FMF Powercore 4 pipe with a Powerbomb headerpipe. ;)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: TerrorSA on August 06, 2010, 09:34:40 pm
At least the oke is willing to assist you in some way. Don't think its fair to ask for brand new parts.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 06, 2010, 10:45:20 pm
I do not understand, Milddog, what was there that the coating people had to put together for you? They do coatings on articles you take to them, or do they also remove, coat and refit?

I took them the full exhaust, they took off the endcap and coated everything else, then when they fitted it back on they did not fasten the bolts properly, so it came loose and tore one of the threads off the exhaust can.

Did the end cap fall off? You can just buy a replacement cap, the drz one screws on with allen head screws

I didn't think I could do that! If they can fix that missing thread, then that is the solution.

At least the oke is willing to assist you in some way. Don't think its fair to ask for brand new parts.
Ya, he is willing to come up with a solution, which is cool. I mailed him the solution that was suggested to me buy a mechanic, that he buys me a new aftermarket end pipe. But R2000 did seem a bit unfair. But for me riding with an exahust that obviously looks repaired will feel very unfair.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 06, 2010, 11:01:18 pm
Just by a new endcap, you can retap a thread for the bolt easily, don't think you can excpect to have some guy buy you a new aftermarket pipe for that.
Did you check the bolts before fitting the pipe?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on August 06, 2010, 11:14:21 pm
Watch out, if you don't stop whining, they'll give you a Bosson pipe :pot:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: JamesXRV on August 06, 2010, 11:55:25 pm
I know from experience, sh!t happens. If they are willing to repair, give them a chance. See how it comes out, it may look OK, if not, take it from there.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Ball and Chain on August 07, 2010, 07:38:46 am
Watch out, if you don't stop whining, they'll give you a Bosson pipe :pot:

:biggrin:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: TVB on August 07, 2010, 08:09:51 am
I know from experience, sh!t happens. If they are willing to repair, give them a chance. See how it comes out, it may look OK, if not, take it from there.

Agree
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: bronzy on August 07, 2010, 09:59:25 am
looks like their is fault on both sides here, if you did the final fitting yourself than if the part fell off surely you should hold your self responsible for not checking all the bolts and nuts on assembly. you must remember that these guys do ceramic coating to all sorts of different parts and half the time they don"t know what the parts are for,so if i sent something in for re coating i would make sure that i checked all bolts nuts gaskets where in order before and after i fitted the parts just my 2cents worth.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 07, 2010, 05:44:05 pm
Roughly 30% of the dogs have told me to stop whining.

Thanks guys :)

Lesson learnt: check everything when refitting parts.

As Etienne says 'life's hard hey'.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Yami Super 10 on August 07, 2010, 10:15:19 pm
Guys!

Lets get to the point. Does not matter what it was or how much it costs. Could be old or new, if old then they supplier/repair  station should notify you, and only on that do you take it on yourself.
#1 - one takes a part/item in to get repaired/made nice or revamp.
#2 - You paid for it, did not dispute the price.
#3 - If it happens that the part/item gets damaged due to THEIR shabby work.
Fark let them pay for their mistakes! Why must one walk away and be happy with second best.
Even if you fit a part, must you go through the item to check their workmanship ?
Ya right, go get a reman engine, strip it to see that all has been secured under the sump :deal:
Get a tube fitted strip it down to see that it has actually been fitted :imaposer:

SA is going down with service to the public!
When I buy something, and if anything goes wrong ??? It will be replaced with a new one! Thats what I paid for!
My dealer has a hard time with me :imaposer: If he does not want my business, I can and will go somewhere els :deal: There is a lot of businesses out there that would love my money :patch: So GIVE SERVICE!!

M 2c

I get for what I pay. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: 2 Stroke Dan on August 07, 2010, 10:19:50 pm
It is important that you strip the parts yourself and only take in the parts to be worked on, these guys' core business is coatings, not remove and fit.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 07, 2010, 11:27:20 pm
Milddog, was it just the endcap that fell off? The piece that is held on by 3 screws?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 08, 2010, 12:12:38 am
Milddog, was it just the endcap that fell off? The piece that is held on by 3 screws?

YES :( The top screw ripped the thread out of the can as well. Nothing huge, but annoying and not my fault. But I have stopped whining.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 13, 2010, 02:54:43 pm
Brief update on the whining:

I have sourced an end-cap from a very generous WD :) So I will take the pipe myself to Scorch and have it done, it's a simple fix and I wanted to insert a pipe down the middle anyways.

The guys who I was working with were willing to help, but un-necessarily rude/aggressive. He seemed to have forgotten that he fucked up and actually if anyone should be swearing on the phone it should be me. He got irate when I called with suggestions. He was willing to help, but he was just kak rude about it.

So i'll make another plan. Admittedly I should've taken the pipe to him sooner, but didn't feel like the 1 hour long trip AGAIN.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 26, 2010, 11:57:50 am
time to love my bike:

I am taking a black RMZ front fender and mounting it onto my zook, because it's going to look awesome.

I am taking off both wheels to change both tires. At the same time I'll be cleaning the back shock and front sprocket area. It is a serious mess under there.

I will be inspecting my rims for damage or wear or whatever and will check spokes for tightness and bends.

I will also check my wheel bearings front and back.

And will check brake pads and discs.

Is there anything else I should do while I have the wheels/tires off the bike?

I need the bike for next weekend for Nelson's Creek training day, so I have a few days to play mechanic-mechanic.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on August 26, 2010, 12:14:16 pm
Chain and sprockets OK?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 26, 2010, 12:22:59 pm
Chain and sprockets OK?

Oh yeah, those kind of go without saying :) They've done less than 1000kms, so they're great.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on August 26, 2010, 12:32:39 pm
Check valve clearance aswell! And clean and oil airfilter
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 26, 2010, 06:53:14 pm
How do i tighten a loose spoke?

My back wheel bearings are a disaster... Who's got the product codes so I can order from bearing man? :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 26, 2010, 09:58:32 pm
How do i tighten a loose spoke?

My back wheel bearings are a disaster... Who's got the product codes so I can order from bearing man? :)
will be looking at mine too after this weekend, ordered neck bearings from Mario @ DirtRider 360 for a set
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 27, 2010, 12:40:26 am
My zook has an 18" at the back. Is that stock? The spec sheet I looked at with julian said 17"??
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Poffmuis on August 27, 2010, 05:24:22 am
18 is stock for the offroads. 17 for the retard
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 27, 2010, 10:26:24 am
Thanks N[]va. That was highly informative. You okes are awesome.

I'm going to repost my questions because I fear your cool pictures may hijack the thread!

1) Can anyone give me the parts number for the throttle stop screw on the E-model carb?

2) what should i check while i have both wheels off? spokes, rims, rim locks, bearings, chain, sprockets.

3) anyone have the serial numbers for the back wheel bearings? both of mine are shot. thanks :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 04, 2010, 06:18:10 pm
So for the first time EVER I am riding with a good front tire, a TKC80.

On my DR650 I had a King KT966 for 3000kms.

On my DRZ I had a Hourang Fortune *cheap chinese kak, until 3am this morning when mounted my TKC80.

It has made SUCH A HUGE difference to how the bike feels on and offroad, it tracks better in corners, the front feels more solid, I corner faster, I can brake harder, and its much better offroad, tight technical stuff made me feels like a trials rider today :) it's just all round epic :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 08, 2010, 09:24:59 pm
So yeah, after powerkote broke my exhaust and were then rude about it Geoff Talbott and a WD sorted me out :) Powerkote were willing to fix my exhaust, but they were rude and cheap about it, and after I found a free end-cap of a WD (thanks Peter Stuyvestant) I figured I'd do it myself.

Geoff did an awesome job and welded in a 38mm pipe as well as chucked the end can on for me. All for R250. He works from home and so can offer very reasonable prices.

Powerkote, the coating is great, the service I got from them was rather poor.

As an aside, Time Freight couriers, I phoned them last Thursday and asked them to collect some MX gear for me from pretoria. Delivery was meant to happen monday morning. It's wednesday, it hasn't been collected, nor can they find the order form they filled out for me. Shocking.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 19, 2010, 05:43:40 pm
On the left side of the cylinder is a little hole, about 5mm in diameter. I think it is the spark plug drainage hole. my bike is leaking oil from there. I overheated it a few weeks ago, i let it idle standing still. what does this mean? am i to join the list of the fallen big end bearings?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on September 19, 2010, 08:15:50 pm
On the left side of the cylinder is a little hole, about 5mm in diameter. I think it is the spark plug drainage hole. my bike is leaking oil from there. I overheated it a few weeks ago, i let it idle standing still. what does this mean? am i to join the list of the fallen big end bearings?
Check if the spark plug is tightend properly, but there should be no oil at the plug at all unless the rings / valves are shot. Check to see if the cam cover is not leaking into the plug hole.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 19, 2010, 10:42:40 pm
Check if the spark plug is tightend properly, but there should be no oil at the plug at all unless the rings / valves are shot. Check to see if the cam cover is not leaking into the plug hole.

Thanks, will do. I forgot to mention the bike seems to be running fine.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on September 20, 2010, 07:21:48 am
On the left side of the cylinder is a little hole, about 5mm in diameter. I think it is the spark plug drainage hole. my bike is leaking oil from there. I overheated it a few weeks ago, i let it idle standing still. what does this mean? am i to join the list of the fallen big end bearings?

Valve cover gasket not fitted proplerly or pinched & damaged.

Not sure how a DRZ would blow oil from the plug hole ??? but hey it's a DRZ everything's possible :evil6:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on September 20, 2010, 08:39:37 am
The valve cover gasket is a rubber unit and sits in a groove if I remember correctly. It has three allen head bolts that needs to be installed in the correct order as one is longer than the other two.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on September 21, 2010, 08:04:47 am
The third bolt and its rubber is totally different than the other two. If you get that wrong you should try something else maybe Ikebana.

The valve cover needs to be seated and the three bolts fitted loosely. Then you tighten them hand tight & torque them.

Damage to the valve cover gasket often occurs if the round bit that fits around the plug tunnel is not placed correctly. Once tightened the cover will pinch and destroy the gasket (and it won't seal either).

If it's been pinched replace.

See below:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 25, 2010, 05:25:59 pm
N[]va came round yesterday and re-fitted the cam cover gasket. Seems to have stopped the oil leak :) thanks guys.

Acidfreak- you still need the specs? I can pull my rack off and give you the measurements between the attachment points if that will help you?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on October 28, 2010, 09:35:34 pm
So today I was taking a short cut through Wynberg Park, in Cape Town. Its just next to the highway. I sneak between two bollards, along a short gravel road, then a little climb and a few slow-ish bermed corners through the forest, back onto the tar and to the office. Today, however, I grabbed too much front brake, got a fright, blipped the throttle and rode straight into one of those highway barriers. Flew over the bars and scraped my leg. Total fail. Total muppet.

It's the first time I've ever damaged my bike in a fall: one indicator broken.

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1146/5123332150_a3b5cac23a.jpg)

Notice the large patch of ergonomically approved grass that saved my torso from damage:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/5122738449_a7ec0fca87.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1238/5122728479_1bf0b3045e.jpg)

You'll see also the highway was close enough for people to laugh as they drove past.

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1092/5122735061_70d7d44b31.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5122741453_b9880a46e9.jpg)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on October 28, 2010, 09:40:11 pm
Man Alive... that's luck for you...it could have been an arm and a leg.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: superfoxi on October 28, 2010, 09:40:31 pm
Shit happens... :ricky:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on October 28, 2010, 09:43:05 pm
:imaposer:

milddog, why do you fall so much? :D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 28, 2010, 10:10:41 pm
:D

Your exploits are becoming part of my morning coffee, better keep it up kid ^.^
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: alexTH3man on October 28, 2010, 10:11:27 pm
i'm sorry milddog...  but  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: the_wes on October 28, 2010, 10:17:42 pm
words fail  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on October 28, 2010, 10:20:28 pm
words fail  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

like my skills did today.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Aquatic on October 28, 2010, 11:18:25 pm
And the guy driving past that got to see it happen must have pissed himself laughing
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 29, 2010, 07:55:41 am
Sorry man, bit that is funny!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on November 09, 2010, 09:17:00 am
I had a gutted stock end can on the bike. It was very loud, fun to blip and ride with in the traffic, but rather obnoxious really, also you'll need to jet the bike after it's done (AFAIK). Don't do that. It's lame.

I recently acquired a full yoshi RS2 system, like the one bus has, and it is freaking awesome :) my bike is an E-model, so there wasn't a massive difference, but it has smoother power delivery, a much nicer sound and a lighter front wheel. All round win. That being said I don't think I would've shelled out the R4000k for one, I got it second hand. And yes the subframe mount points are slightly diff, but not that bad, made a plan.

The FCR carb is stock on the e-models, hey?

If you don't know there are 3 DRZ models, basically the same with a few differences:

E- enduro, sometimes no subframe, the FCR carb and a better header pipe. Also comes stock with shorter gearing. The hooligan offroad model :)

S- the diet coke of DRZ's, longer gearing and a less aggressive carb. Bus has one that he has made into a monster, new carb, header pipe, changed gearing, etc, but stock they are (better) for longer distances and slightly calmer riders?

SM- super motard, RMZ shocks and bigger disc brakes front and back. It however has a much worse carb on the bike, so it's a bit soft standard.

But bus and sidetrack know much more about this than me.

Apparently though the very recent (2008+) do not actually need the automatic cam chain tensioners, I am not sure.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Rolf on November 09, 2010, 09:33:26 am
I had a gutted stock end can on the bike. It was very loud, fun to blip and ride with in the traffic, but rather obnoxious really, also you'll need to jet the bike after it's done (AFAIK). Don't do that. It's lame.

I recently acquired a full yoshi RS2 system, like the one bus has, and it is freaking awesome :) my bike is an E-model, so there wasn't a massive difference, but it has smoother power delivery, a much nicer sound and a lighter front wheel. All round win. That being said I don't think I would've shelled out the R4000k for one, I got it second hand. And yes the subframe mount points are slightly diff, but not that bad, made a plan.

The FCR carb is stock on the e-models, hey?

If you don't know there are 3 DRZ models, basically the same with a few differences:

E- enduro, sometimes no subframe, the FCR carb and a better header pipe. Also comes stock with shorter gearing. The hooligan offroad model :)

S- the diet coke of DRZ's, longer gearing and a less aggressive carb. Bus has one that he has made into a monster, new carb, header pipe, changed gearing, etc, but stock they are (better) for longer distances and slightly calmer riders?

SM- super motard, RMZ shocks and bigger disc brakes front and back. It however has a much worse carb on the bike, so it's a bit soft standard.

But bus and sidetrack know much more about this than me.

Apparently though the very recent (2008+) do not actually need the automatic cam chain tensioners, I am not sure.

Yo missed the original K model - kickstart model  :thumleft:
The carb on the SM is same as the S bit with different jets. It is not soft really as it makes slightly, albeit insignificantly more, power than the S.
It also shares the RMZ swingarm.

There are also different E models. Earlier E models were the same as available in the rest of the world - offroad only. Later E models in South Africa are a bit of a "blend" between and S and an E - all the good stuff from the E with the lights, etc off the S. The S has also not been available in South Africa for quite some time.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 14, 2011, 04:23:42 pm
:( I noticed a day or two ago a hairline crack and a dent on the clutch-cover of my DRZ. Its from the gear selector from an off I had a month or so ago. It's not leaking oil, looks like it might be seeping very very slightly. I was thinking of filing off the paint and pratley puttying the problem. Out of ten how kak an idea is this? Who should I take this problem to?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 14, 2011, 05:53:09 pm
:( I noticed a day or two ago a hairline crack and a dent on the clutch-cover of my DRZ. Its from the gear selector from an off I had a month or so ago. It's not leaking oil, looks like it might be seeping very very slightly. I was thinking of filing off the paint and pratley puttying the problem. Out of ten how kak an idea is this? Who should I take this problem to?
Gear selector sits on the magneto side, rear brake on the clutch side. Anyhow JB weld will work (is it avaliable locally?). Also the case shields is a must on a DRZ, it would have prevented the crack.

http://shop.thumpertalk.com/DRZ_Case_Shields_p/bp_cfc_case.htm
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 14, 2011, 06:01:18 pm
Gear selector sits on the magneto side, rear brake on the clutch side. Anyhow JB weld will work (is it avaliable locally?). Also the case shields is a must on a DRZ, it would have prevented the crack.

http://shop.thumpertalk.com/DRZ_Case_Shields_p/bp_cfc_case.htm

My mistake, it is on the magneto side. case shields are a must. I am planning to get them soon, just been limited by finances. It's on the list :)

Whats the difference between JB weld and pratley steel?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 14, 2011, 07:13:46 pm
Gear selector sits on the magneto side, rear brake on the clutch side. Anyhow JB weld will work (is it avaliable locally?). Also the case shields is a must on a DRZ, it would have prevented the crack.

http://shop.thumpertalk.com/DRZ_Case_Shields_p/bp_cfc_case.htm

My mistake, it is on the magneto side. case shields are a must. I am planning to get them soon, just been limited by finances. It's on the list :)

Whats the difference between JB weld and pratley steel?
I made my own case savers from some alu plate, stuck them on with RTV. Worked a charm. Not sure about the adhesives but I'm sure you could use Pratley Steel.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 14, 2011, 07:18:13 pm
I made my own case savers from some alu plate, stuck them on with RTV. Worked a charm. Not sure about the adhesives but I'm sure you could use Pratley Steel.

I think I am going to go and bother superfoxi, he's got alu welding skills, will see what he can plugging the leak and then creating case savers :)

N()va's also slowly rebuilding his zook and I was gonna use his cases as a template to get them cut, as his bike's currently in pieces.

Thanks Sidetrack. Incidentally, what bikes haven't you owned?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: grego on March 14, 2011, 08:42:39 pm
I made my own case savers from some alu plate, stuck them on with RTV. Worked a charm. Not sure about the adhesives but I'm sure you could use Pratley Steel.

I think I am going to go and bother superfoxi, he's got alu welding skills, will see what he can plugging the leak and then creating case savers :)

N()va's also slowly rebuilding his zook and I was gonna use his cases as a template to get them cut, as his bike's currently in pieces.

Thanks Sidetrack. Incidentally, what bikes haven't you owned?
why not try make some case savers out of polycarbonate?
just heat it in the oven till it softens and mould it to the shape of the case. not sure if it'll work but worth a try.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 14, 2011, 10:00:58 pm
I made my own case savers from some alu plate, stuck them on with RTV. Worked a charm. Not sure about the adhesives but I'm sure you could use Pratley Steel.

I think I am going to go and bother superfoxi, he's got alu welding skills, will see what he can plugging the leak and then creating case savers :)

N()va's also slowly rebuilding his zook and I was gonna use his cases as a template to get them cut, as his bike's currently in pieces.

Thanks Sidetrack. Incidentally, what bikes haven't you owned?
DS bikes - XR250, DR250, KLE 500, DR650, DRZ 400, KTM 525. Spent the most time on the DRZ and still rate it as best of the lot. The DR650 was a real dissapointment after the DRZ.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 17, 2011, 11:04:43 am
I need new back wheel bearings and spacers:

what size are the bearings? wanna get from BMG. nice and cheap :)
Then need spacers from Suzuki South, assume no one else will stock them?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 17, 2011, 11:16:12 am
I need new back wheel bearings and spacers:

what size are the bearings? wanna get from BMG. nice and cheap :)
Then need spacers from Suzuki South, assume no one else will stock them?
Those aluminium spacers? naw borrow mine and have a set made

Front wheel
2 x 6904 2RS

Rear wheel
2 x 6004 2RS (R 25.04)
http://za.rs-online.com/web/6190345.html
1 x 6204 2RS (R 32.16)
http://za.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=searchProducts&searchTerm=6204-2RS&x=0&y=0
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 17, 2011, 11:46:03 am
Those aluminium spacers? naw borrow mine and have a set made

Front wheel
2 x 6904 2RS

Rear wheel
2 x 6004 2RS (R 25.04)
http://za.rs-online.com/web/6190345.html
1 x 6204 2RS (R 32.16)
http://za.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=searchProducts&searchTerm=6204-2RS&x=0&y=0

Where can I get those bearings? Preferably Today :)

Thanks, the SM spacers are different. So I am gonna have to get some E-model spacers. The punks at Suzuki wanna charge R226 per spacer.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Rolf on March 17, 2011, 11:51:24 am
Those aluminium spacers? naw borrow mine and have a set made

Front wheel
2 x 6904 2RS

Rear wheel
2 x 6004 2RS (R 25.04)
http://za.rs-online.com/web/6190345.html
1 x 6204 2RS (R 32.16)
http://za.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=searchProducts&searchTerm=6204-2RS&x=0&y=0

Where can I get those bearings? Preferably Today :)

Thanks, the SM spacers are different. So I am gonna have to get some E-model spacers. The punks at Suzuki wanna charge R226 per spacer.

Any industrial area will have a couple of bearing places. Take them the bearing numbers and they'll supply them to you.
I've bought "motorcycle bearings" at Centurion bearing Supplies and even at Acorn Fasteners.
Get some good quality bearings though: SKF, FAG, Nachi, etc.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 17, 2011, 02:31:33 pm
Any industrial area will have a couple of bearing places. Take them the bearing numbers and they'll supply them to you.
I've bought "motorcycle bearings" at Centurion bearing Supplies and even at Acorn Fasteners.
Get some good quality bearings though: SKF, FAG, Nachi, etc.
I got sealed NSK bearings from BMG for R150 for all three. However I think I've got a set of new All Balls racing bearings and partially used spacers from a WD  :thumleft:

Suzuki wanted R230 a spacer so I was going to take the stock ones to les stainex in wynberg for machining. Seems I won't need to do that either :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 18, 2011, 04:23:41 pm
Oil check method:
1) Ride bike (till warm/hot)
2) turn off bike
3) take out dipstick
4) wipe dipstick
5) insert dipstick back into bike, as far at it will go without using the thread
6) pull out dipstick, check level

Is this right?

I put in 2liters of oil when I did the service (changed oil filter and drained oil), it says do 1.9 liters when changing oil filter, so I figured the extra 100ml wouldn't make a difference. That was Around 1800kms ago. When I checked the oil today there was nothing on the dipstick at all. I put in 600ml then rode the bike and then put in another 400ml.

Thinking about it now I have most likely over-filled it.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 24, 2011, 09:54:26 am
Turns out I have oil on the spark plug. From the workshop manual it seems I am missing the cushion on one bolt of the tappet cover. May also need a new tappet cover gasket. Will phone the suzuki boys and find out the damage. I am really hoping its the cushion and gasket causing the oil leak, if it's not it'll be rings or something expensive sounding.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 24, 2011, 11:35:32 am
Can anyone provide me with the parts fiche pic of the tappet cover, bolts and washers?

I am not sure if I have all the bits yet. The 'cushion' that I bought today looks very different to the 2 washers that are already on the bike.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 24, 2011, 11:44:24 am
http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/Motorcycle/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/47/Year/2006/ModelID/7814/Model/DR_Z400E/GroupID/371323/Group/CYLINDER_HEAD_COVER_
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 29, 2011, 11:31:44 am
ALL of the gaskets and rubber pieces on my tappet cover have stopped working. Seems they stop sealing after a while. I think that also explains the water in the oil, I found an oily emulsion on the underside of the tappet cover that started at the two bolt holes.

Well, I have replaced the tappet cover gasket, without gasket sealant, so it pissed oil everywhere this weekend- will do a service and rectify all of that tomorrow or Thursday.

Also had to replace the two washers that go under the nuts on the breather side, R26 per washer!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on March 29, 2011, 04:46:47 pm
ALL of the gaskets and rubber pieces on my tappet cover have stopped working. Seems they stop sealing after a while. I think that also explains the water in the oil, I found an oily emulsion on the underside of the tappet cover that started at the two bolt holes.

Well, I have replaced the tappet cover gasket, without gasket sealant, so it pissed oil everywhere this weekend- will do a service and rectify all of that tomorrow or Thursday.

Also had to replace the two washers that go under the nuts on the breather side, R26 per washer!
Fork MD something is wrong, I had mine off about 5 times with cams and valve inspections and never used sealant on the tappet cover gasket. As it's rubber it's reusable  ???
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 29, 2011, 05:25:56 pm
Fork MD something is wrong, I had mine off about 5 times with cams and valve inspections and never used sealant on the tappet cover gasket. As it's rubber it's reusable  ???

This all started (I think) after I over-heated the bike at the Nelson's Creek training day. Could the magnesium tappet cover have warped? I will replace all the rubber bits, do the gasket sealant and then check what happens with the oil. It was leaking so much the spark plug got fouled and wouldn't spark. My bike is also 27 000kms old, so maybe the rubber has just lost its flexibility and is brittle and not sealing anymore.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on March 29, 2011, 05:31:45 pm
ALL of the gaskets and rubber pieces on my tappet cover have stopped working. Seems they stop sealing after a while. I think that also explains the water in the oil, I found an oily emulsion on the underside of the tappet cover that started at the two bolt holes.

Well, I have replaced the tappet cover gasket, without gasket sealant, so it pissed oil everywhere this weekend- will do a service and rectify all of that tomorrow or Thursday.

Also had to replace the two washers that go under the nuts on the breather side, R26 per washer!
Did it look anything like this?
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/4982531675_e2f6402bd2_b.jpg)
If so , given that the bike overheated I'd be inclined to think it might be the head gasket

If the bike runs do you get any bubbles or oily residue int he top of the radiator?

chemical test is also a good way to test
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on March 29, 2011, 08:01:37 pm
Did it look anything like this?

If so , given that the bike overheated I'd be inclined to think it might be the head gasket

If the bike runs do you get any bubbles or oily residue int he top of the radiator?

chemical test is also a good way to test

That is exactly how it looks! I wanted to take a pic but couldn't find the camera.

No, there are no bubbles in the radiator fluid. Also no loss of water at all, so the water pump is fine.

Yeah, other option is that the head gasket has gone :(

I am hoping after the service, and replacing all these rubber tappet cover bits the oil will stop leaking, but its unlikely.

There was oil on top of the spark plug (on the outside) as well as actually on the electrode.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: grego on March 30, 2011, 08:24:08 am
Fork MD something is wrong, I had mine off about 5 times with cams and valve inspections and never used sealant on the tappet cover gasket. As it's rubber it's reusable  ???

This all started (I think) after I over-heated the bike at the Nelson's Creek training day. Could the magnesium tappet cover have warped? I will replace all the rubber bits, do the gasket sealant and then check what happens with the oil. It was leaking so much the spark plug got fouled and wouldn't spark. My bike is also 27 000kms old, so maybe the rubber has just lost its flexibility and is brittle and not sealing anymore.
use a steel rule (or similar straight edge) across the gasket face of the tappet cover to check for warpage.
maybe with the high mileage and overheating the gasket failed  :-\
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 19, 2011, 02:33:47 pm
My bike is leaking oil from the gear lever/clutch cover area.

Initially I thought it was the hairline crack that I sealed with Pratley Steel.

On second inspection I can see that there is oil on the chain.

I think I am leaking oil from the front sprocket seal.

Is this common? Is it likely? Is it easily fixable?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on April 19, 2011, 03:37:43 pm
My bike is leaking oil from the gear lever/clutch cover area.

Initially I thought it was the hairline crack that I sealed with Pratley Steel.

On second inspection I can see that there is oil on the chain.

I think I am leaking oil from the front sprocket seal.

Is this common? Is it likely? Is it easily fixable?
Counter shaft seal.

I have 3 xrays that say DO NO RIDE THAT BIKE until you fix it.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-625998.html
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 19, 2011, 03:47:24 pm
My bike is leaking oil from the gear lever/clutch cover area.

Initially I thought it was the hairline crack that I sealed with Pratley Steel.

On second inspection I can see that there is oil on the chain.

I think I am leaking oil from the front sprocket seal.

Is this common? Is it likely? Is it easily fixable?
Some last forever, yes it's easily fixable. Remember the blue loctite on the CS nut and splines when you reinstall the sprocket. Read all about it on TT.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 19, 2011, 05:02:56 pm
Seal : R54
Washer : R7

Taking it all through to TMC tomorrow morning for sorting :)

When changing chain and sprockets; don't re-use that crush washer thing that holds the sprocket on. I did. It's only R7. Rather replace.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 21, 2011, 10:14:44 am
Yes, I realise that big bore kits are a terrible idea. but still. they're fun  >:D

I am looking at getting this kit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-DRZ400-JE-PISTON-440-BIG-BORE-KIT-DRZ-400-12-1-/360337342156?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e5c77ecc

I am worried that the sleeve is steel. How do I figure that out? my google-fu is weak. Apparently the steel sleeves have a problem with heat dispensation and they warp.

I am ALSO getting a 19 liter clarke tank. win.

Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Poffmuis on April 21, 2011, 10:23:27 am
The best kit for that bike is the full Athena kit, piston and barrel. The Athena barrel has bigger water channel = better cooling.
The best (only) way to go IMHO
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 23, 2011, 10:04:57 pm
yes, turns out buying from the states is a silly plan. NSC up in jo'burg stock the athena kits, waiting for a price from them, and renz.co.za have some very reasonably priced stuff kits. turns out the kit I bought has a steel sleeve, and the common opinion on the interweb is that putting a steel sleeve into an aluminum cylinder is a kak plan, the steel doesn't dissipate heat nicely and it can warp. either way it's considered a much better option to either buy a new cylinder like the athena kit or have your old barrel bored out and nikasil coated. apparently the only people who do that in this fine country are NSC up in jo'burg and they charge R1580 for it. so yes... we will see whether i keep this kit or not. may sell it on to mitigate costs of my clarke tank. may keep it and be awesome  >:D

and all this started because i found oil on spark plug and was worried about my rings  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 23, 2011, 10:06:39 pm
My clutch cover casing is leaking oil. This is not good. I'm taking it to try get it fixed this week. and then I'll source some case-savers from the interweb.

Make sure you get case-savers for your DRZ :) I'll post prices and such once I have them.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on April 24, 2011, 10:02:02 am
A big bore kit alone is a waste of money.

You will have to spend more to get extra performance. I'd start with cams & a nice exhaust (i.e. the awesome Yoshi pipe Nivea had on his SM).

And:
There's a reciprocal correlation between engine performance and service life :-\
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 24, 2011, 01:53:32 pm
Milddog, have you considered a bigger bike?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Copernicus on April 24, 2011, 03:08:55 pm
A big bore kit alone is a waste of money.

You will have to spend more to get extra performance. I'd start with cams & a nice exhaust (i.e. the awesome Yoshi pipe Nivea had on his SM).

And:
There's a reciprocal correlation between engine performance and service life :-\

I would call it inversely proportional...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 24, 2011, 04:23:38 pm
Milddog, have you considered a bigger bike?

I really really like my DRZ, I don't wanna change bikes, maybe just want more power :) haha. I'm well aware this is a moderately stupid plan.

@platbrak, yes it's called inversely proportial.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: tau on April 25, 2011, 10:38:45 am
I have doen it Before complete Stroker kit.

It is nice for a short time and then the repairs and maintanace becomes a pita.

Rethink how reliable your bike has been and how you want to use her in future. Not a bad Idea if she is a play bike, however as a primary DS bike......no I don't think it is a good idea.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on April 25, 2011, 11:37:06 am
I wen't with the Athena kit because my top end needed to be freshend up. The kit itself does not add much power. The bike revs a little slower and has slightly more torque. The stock 400 has a nice revvey motor and it has enough power as is. I did not notice any increased maintenance after I did this mod, it was still super reliable. For me the DRZ's week point was always something electrical related, in my case the stator. The motor was always rock solid.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 25, 2011, 05:03:01 pm
I wen't with the Athena kit because my top end needed to be freshend up. The kit itself does not add much power. The bike revs a little slower and has slightly more torque. The stock 400 has a nice revvey motor and it has enough power as is. I did not notice any increased maintenance after I did this mod, it was still super reliable. For me the DRZ's week point was always something electrical related, in my case the stator. The motor was always rock solid.

Yeah, my electrics are a bit odd. Nothing is broken, but they're just weird, not particularly reliable or straightforward.

That was the same reason I initially decided to buy this kit; dodgy rings.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on April 29, 2011, 06:25:36 pm
I ordered the kit. Firgured I can sell it on if I don't want it.

It seems to put it in I have to do quite a bit of other work as well. What else do I need to do for the BB kit to work? If I put it into a stock bike the bike just revs more like a tractor.

I am also considering selling it either pocketing the cash or going 400 forged piston, depending how my rings are looking at 30 000kms.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 04, 2011, 09:10:52 pm
Ok. I have very sadly had no offers on my BB kit.

This means I am going to have to convert my bike to a 434.

This may take some months as I am cash-strapped, as per usual.

I need to send my cylinder up to NSC for boring and nikasil coating.

Then my bike is stock. So I can't just go increasing the bore to a 434 on a stock bike, what else do I have to do to it to make it run properly?

I am thinking big gun exhaust system and hotcam on the intake side should do it. Hey?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MalcolmX on June 15, 2011, 04:57:41 pm
MILDDOG, waar ry jy heen op so 'n renerige dag in die stad??
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 15, 2011, 06:00:47 pm
Malcolm, my car's in the shop so i do all my usual commuting on the bike. Not cool on a rainy wet day like today. Was riding up wynberg hill, near Suzuki South.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2212.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2249.jpg)

WAHEY!!!! it sounds and looks epic!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: ChinaPete on June 15, 2011, 07:03:31 pm
Fortunately you and your bike are in good enough shape to enjoy the new pipes.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Pote on June 15, 2011, 08:17:17 pm
sien as jy nou daai pype al op gehad het sou jy nooit in die kar vas ge&^% het nie...loud pipes saves lives.... :peepwall:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 16, 2011, 01:55:21 pm
So I fell off my bike onto the tar and that was very unhappy... I got home and this was on my desk:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2212.jpg)

Inside the box, this is what I found :)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2213.jpg)

This is the kak that was on the bike:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2247.jpg)

Took it off:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2248.jpg)

And then stuck this bad boy on the back:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2249.jpg)

Took the quiet baffle out:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2258.jpg)

Put in a loud one:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2259.jpg)

Winner!!

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/IMG_2255.jpg)

So so cool. I used starcyle from http://global.ebay.com. I purchased it on the 6th of June. They shipped on the 7th and it arrived here 9 days later. Brilliant!! Total cost: R3300 (incl. vat).
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 16, 2011, 04:15:42 pm
Nice!  But does it sound good?   :deal:   :ricky:

SOOOOO good  >:D  >:D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Coffee Snob on June 16, 2011, 09:55:25 pm
eish! sorry to hear bout the mishap. but cool pipe! we'll have to compare to see whose DRZ sounds the coolest now  ;D !
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Operator on June 16, 2011, 10:20:47 pm
Doubt it if any DRZ can sound any better than mine with a Powercore 4 FMF pipe..... :mwink:


I must say that the Yoshi pipe BUS had on his ,now stolen, DRZ was also very nice..........
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 17, 2011, 01:41:42 pm
awesome pipe!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Pote on June 17, 2011, 10:47:09 pm
Doubt it if any DRZ can sound any better than mine with a Powercore 4 FMF pipe..... :mwink:


I must say that the Yoshi pipe BUS had on his ,now stolen, DRZ was also very nice..........
kon hy al iets verder uit gevind het?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: SACK on June 17, 2011, 11:31:33 pm
Glad  you're okay.

Had my first crash on tar about a month ago. Completely freaked me out. Not nearly as much fun as crashing on dirt. Too many sparks...and my gear got hurt.

Nice zorst!






Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on June 18, 2011, 08:40:46 am
Now take the baffles out completely then its nice...... :mwink: :mwink: :mwink:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 18, 2011, 10:09:13 am
Now take the baffles out completely then its nice...... :mwink: :mwink: :mwink:

Yeah I have, i did five minutes with that other baffle in and then took it out as well. Sounds WICKED without any baffle in  >:D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: seajaykay on June 18, 2011, 02:40:05 pm
Daai nommerplaatlyk nie vir my legal nie?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 30, 2011, 06:44:24 pm
Status: not being ridden, dented stanchion tube.

Stanchion Tube: haven't found a willing seller yet.

Clarke Tank: lost somewhere between Missoula, Montana, USA and my house in Cape Town.

Vapor: on order from renz.co.za

434cc piston, gaskets and such: sitting in pretty in my desk

434cc Cylinder, intake cam, timing chaing and valve springs: arrived in Cape Town this morning, will clear customs and be at my house early next week.

Leo vince slip on: on the bike  :thumleft:

Case savers: first round (made of 3mm perspex) was a fail, 2nd round will be attempted once i have purchase polystone from Maizey's Paarden Eiland.

Milddog: sad about not riding.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 30, 2011, 09:49:40 pm
im a need to fetch my engine casings and exhaust tomorrow btw  ::)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 30, 2011, 10:21:11 pm
im a need to fetch my engine casings and exhaust tomorrow btw  ::)

dude. hijack?!?! seriously.
this is my DRZ pimp thread!!
com'on guy!!!
sure, come by and collect your casings and exhaust.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on June 30, 2011, 10:31:12 pm
im a need to fetch my engine casings and exhaust tomorrow btw  ::)

dude. hijack?!?! seriously.
this is my DRZ pimp thread!!
com'on guy!!!
sure, come by and collect your casings and exhaust.
oh that reminds me, poker night on Saturday. you game?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 07, 2011, 05:32:47 pm
Stanchion tube is on the way.

Currently I am trying to fit my clarke tank onto my bike. I bought the 3.9 gallon tank designed for the S/SM model and am fitting it to the E model bike. The E-model clarke tank is a pathetic 3.2 gallon (13 or 14 litres). In retrospect, the acerbis tank would've been the best choice. 16 litres and no effort required.

I've got the tank on, but the clearance between the top of the engine/tapper cover is 0mm. So I am trying to raise it a bit. This is a small bike, and the tank is a hefty thing.

Here's how the stock tank looks on:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2313.jpg)

Compared to this:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2324.jpg)

So the problem is down here, on the right hand corner:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2308.jpg)

And here, no space to turn the choke on:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2310.jpg)

My solution, a foam thing:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2322.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2323.jpg)

Attached like this:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2326.jpg)

Tank clearance is better, but still not great:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2327.jpg)

Got about 10mm clearance but the tank is empty:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2329.jpg)

I can turn the choke on though:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2330.jpg)

How do I fix this?

More foam?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Etienne2T on July 07, 2011, 08:47:25 pm
I removed the plastic knob on the choke, and just cable tied carpet to the frame to raise the tank
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 17, 2011, 07:23:08 pm
Heat cycling, suggested by Axehead.

Doing heat cycle one now... reckon i can get a few more mm this way. Then I'll put some heat shield stuff on the bottom of the tank.

Pic of heat cycle one :) I am so glad my mother has gone away for the week. hahaha.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2331.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Clarke%20Tank/IMG_2332.jpg)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 17, 2011, 07:24:30 pm
OK. So I have put in Carpet instead of foam. MUCH BETTER.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2364.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2360.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2350.jpg)

After the heat-cycles and the carpet, the clearance is much better:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2349.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2348.jpg)

Got about 50mm now, and will add exhaust heat-shield under the closest point, just to be extra-cautious.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2351.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2352.jpg)

I'll post the rest of the updates, and the ensuing madness that I have planned in my build thread. 434cc, hotcam  and a superbike solutions tuning...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 17, 2011, 07:34:07 pm
I've taken off my speedo in preparation for my trailtech. The main reason I got it is to monitor temperature once I've done the 434 conversion.

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2346.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2344.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2368.jpg)

Notice the size difference:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2369.jpg)

Will mount the trailtech soon

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2367.jpg)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 17, 2011, 07:36:15 pm
It's happening thick and fast!!!

Some goodies arrived in the post :)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2333.jpg)

First order:

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2337.jpg)
434cc JE Forged Piston
Cometic Gaskets
Steel sleeve (for sale)

Second order: from Apex_racing on ebay, great guys!

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2342.jpg)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2338.jpg)
Namura 434 Cylinder

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2340.jpg)
Kibblewhite Valve Springs

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2341.jpg)
Wiseco Timing Chaing
Hotcams Intake Valve

Third order: from www.renz.co.za, also really good local suppliers :)

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/434%20Convert/IMG_2336.jpg)
Vapor Trailtech and ally bracket
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: the_wes on July 17, 2011, 09:03:50 pm
Dude, I dunno about that pile of carpet under the tank. I was thinking 1 layer at most. That can't be stable, or safe - there has to be a better way?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: S - 4 - B on July 17, 2011, 09:12:40 pm
Well Wes, seeing that you had the courage to bring it up , I agree, but have no idea what the solution is.

Maybe use it like this and look around for a sexier fix. FWIW I fitted the IMS tank, no mods needed plus it protects the radiators.

I like all the toys...seems this Drz is getting some longer legs...actually I think she is going to be standing on her hindlegs most of the time :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Wolweseun on July 17, 2011, 09:30:11 pm
I agree with Wes
That tank is a seriously kak idea
get rid of it and get something decent that fits properly
You are spending so much on the bike and farking it up with a serioiusly kak bloudraad plan
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: axehead on July 17, 2011, 09:42:45 pm
cool.

only found this thread now.

looks like you are having fun!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on July 18, 2011, 09:27:03 am
I agree with Wes
That tank is a seriously kak idea
get rid of it and get something decent that fits properly
You are spending so much on the bike and farking it up with a serioiusly kak bloudraad plan

Agree. Either make a decent mounting bracket using metal & elastomeres and bolts rather than cable ties & carpet or ditch the tank for something that fits off the shelf.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on July 19, 2011, 03:44:06 pm
It seems I'm doing everything at the same time.

I am OBVIOUSLY going to make metal brackets for the tank. I'm only a partial idiot. Not full retard, never go full 'tard.

I got my radiators straightened and fixed at Radiator King for R200, winning situation that one :)

Then I am half way through putting my vapor on. It is so simple I'm probably not going to post pictures. There are 4 wires to install. And a mounting bracket. bought the fancy steel bracket because I assumed it was bolt-on. It's not, and that is a bit gay. Otherwise it's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on July 19, 2011, 09:33:33 pm
I might take that bracket off your hands if you dont use it
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 18, 2011, 12:46:11 pm
hello sportsfan...

LOTS has been going on... My bike is now 434cc big, and runs a hotcam on the intake side.

My tank is sorted, metal brackets made for a fairly simple solution :)

As always I am SUPER impressed with the quality of workmanship that is rendered at Superbike Solutions. Julian and his boys are awesome.

I mounted N[]va old headlight shroud onto my bike, so it's all yellow and black and covered in stickers. Looks very cool. Will post pics of all the changes...

I almost ended myself last night using WD40 and an HID ballast. WD40 is a very effective conductor of electricity. And being electrocuted by an HID ballast is freaking SORE!!!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 18, 2011, 01:36:22 pm
I almost ended myself last night using WD40 and an HID ballast. WD40 is a very effective conductor of electricity. And being electrocuted by an HID ballast is freaking SORE!!!
It was broken funny though :-p
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on August 18, 2011, 02:46:36 pm
And WD40 propellant is super inflammable too.  You must go back and do it properly next time!  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on August 18, 2011, 02:51:08 pm
And WD40 propellant is super inflammable too.  You must go back and do it properly next time!  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
next time maybe in his garage and not mine -.-
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Operator on August 18, 2011, 02:52:44 pm
As always I am SUPER impressed with the quality of workmanship that is rendered at Superbike Solutions. Julian and his boys are awesome.

+ 1000
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on August 28, 2011, 02:14:15 pm
It looks and sounds good! 

Are you happy?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on August 28, 2011, 03:23:07 pm
It looks and sounds good!  

Are you happy?

Hahaha. yes. VERY. I'm not sure if its the extra power or just knowledge that the engine is a bit more powerful, but I was feeling much more confident off road today. And was lifting the front, doing small jumps off the whoops, that kinda sillyness. Great fun :)

I'll know whether it was worth the expense after i've put 30 000 kms on it :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: slicknick on September 20, 2011, 10:17:16 am
Milddog, what did the trailtech vapour unit cost? Also intersested in one as well as the polisport front light shroud. Where did you get it? How much? I'm also looking at getting new/used side shrouds for the 2001 DRZ (got mine yesterday) as mine is a bit dodgey, do you know of anyone that might have a good pair lying around?. I'm new to the DRZ family and want to get mine all "fixed" up, so any suggestions from you will be greatly appreciated ie what to check for etc etc etc. Tx :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 20, 2011, 11:14:28 am
Milddog, what did the trailtech vapour unit cost? Also intersested in one as well as the polisport front light shroud. Where did you get it? How much? I'm also looking at getting new/used side shrouds for the 2001 DRZ (got mine yesterday) as mine is a bit dodgey, do you know of anyone that might have a good pair lying around?. I'm new to the DRZ family and want to get mine all "fixed" up, so any suggestions from you will be greatly appreciated ie what to check for etc etc etc. Tx :thumleft:

Spend some time at the Thumpertalk shop (www.thumpertalk.com)!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: slicknick on September 20, 2011, 11:36:33 am
Milddog, what did the trailtech vapour unit cost? Also intersested in one as well as the polisport front light shroud. Where did you get it? How much? I'm also looking at getting new/used side shrouds for the 2001 DRZ (got mine yesterday) as mine is a bit dodgey, do you know of anyone that might have a good pair lying around?. I'm new to the DRZ family and want to get mine all "fixed" up, so any suggestions from you will be greatly appreciated ie what to check for etc etc etc. Tx :thumleft:

Spend some time at the Thumpertalk shop (www.thumpertalk.com)!

Will do, thanks. How much of an issue is it to get parts & accessories from there to SA (Rustenburg) Not to clued up on importing ???
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on September 20, 2011, 01:05:03 pm
Milddog, what did the trailtech vapour unit cost? Also intersested in one as well as the polisport front light shroud. Where did you get it? How much? I'm also looking at getting new/used side shrouds for the 2001 DRZ (got mine yesterday) as mine is a bit dodgey, do you know of anyone that might have a good pair lying around?. I'm new to the DRZ family and want to get mine all "fixed" up, so any suggestions from you will be greatly appreciated ie what to check for etc etc etc. Tx :thumleft:

Spend some time at the Thumpertalk shop (www.thumpertalk.com)!

Will do, thanks. How much of an issue is it to get parts & accessories from there to SA (Rustenburg) Not to clued up on importing ???

Pay by credit card or Paypal, takes about a week to get here.
Pay VAT at Post Office and, if you're unlucky, import duty as well - this seems to vary.
But no hassle to get the stuff here at all.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 23, 2011, 12:20:57 pm
Hey hey!!

Welcome! post pics... change oil regularly and ride a lot :)

I'm actually looking to sell that polisport shroud if you wanna buy it. It's sold new in Cape Town for R550.

Generally you get stuff in 2 weeks or so. It's not hard. Use a credit card and click away.
Use ebay and paypal, and add 20% to the total cost for tax and post office fees. (14% VAT and 6% for their admin fees).

Ebay can be a bit useless, especially with a new account they froze mine to verify address and such :)

There are also some really good local online shops. Who will ship stuff to you:

www.amxsa.com
www.renz.co.za

You can get a Vapor trailtech from Renz for R1150, which is really cheap. Importing you'll get it landed for R100 or R200 less.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on October 22, 2011, 07:24:17 pm
Bottom end = broken.

Milddog = sad.

My bike's with Julian at superbike. It was making some ugly noises so I took it in. Julian reckons all my gears in the gearbox are shot, one had 5mm of play in it. So that's going to cost a bit, and explains my recent silence. FML.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on October 22, 2011, 08:49:28 pm
Oh dear!  My condolences.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on October 24, 2011, 08:59:23 am
Man, that's bad news.....
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2011, 02:50:31 pm
Bottom end = broken.

Milddog = sad.

My bike's with Julian at superbike. It was making some ugly noises so I took it in. Julian reckons all my gears in the gearbox are shot, one had 5mm of play in it. So that's going to cost a bit, and explains my recent silence. FML.

fuck guy >.<
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on October 24, 2011, 03:40:02 pm
fuck guy >.<

this is cause your fucking bike is in my garage. it gave my bike "n[]va luck"...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2011, 05:15:01 pm
fuck guy >.<

this is cause your fucking bike is in my garage. it gave my bike "n[]va luck"...
Ha! I have yet to brake a scooter here :-p
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: the_wes on October 24, 2011, 05:19:34 pm
fuck guy >.<

this is cause your fucking bike is in my garage. it gave my bike "n[]va luck"...
Ha! I have yet to brake a scooter here :-p

how on earth do you stop?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2011, 06:15:23 pm
fuck guy >.<

this is cause your fucking bike is in my garage. it gave my bike "n[]va luck"...
Ha! I have yet to brake a scooter here :-p

how on earth do you stop?
power slides or a good collection of small Vietnamese girls
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on October 24, 2011, 07:49:40 pm
power slides or a good collection of small Vietnamese girls

Small to them or small to us?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 24, 2011, 08:02:18 pm
id guess like 38 kg's per
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on October 30, 2011, 08:01:19 pm
Ahhhh, MildDog's Drz "limp" thread  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 30, 2011, 08:03:48 pm
LOL thats foken rof!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on October 30, 2011, 08:51:17 pm
So what's news?  Today the quarry was gravely lacking in certain entertainment aspects.  Come back soon, MildDog.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: g1_ on November 02, 2011, 04:51:50 pm
sucks
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on November 03, 2011, 12:01:30 pm
So what's news?  Today the quarry was gravely lacking in certain entertainment aspects.  Come back soon, MildDog.

Bike is with Julian. Gearbox bearings are farked. It is digging a deep hole into my very shallow pockets.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on December 10, 2011, 11:30:34 am
Hey Milddog, where you been buddy?

dealing with this:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Kid1.jpg)
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Kid2.jpg)

and this:
(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Broken.jpg)

 :'(

Superbike Solutions are sorting me out this week. Love those guys :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on December 24, 2011, 04:38:09 am
I see the haircut fund has been channelled into the gearbox fund  :peepwall:   :laughing4:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on December 28, 2011, 03:41:17 pm
I see the haircut fund has been channelled into the gearbox fund  :peepwall:   :laughing4:

kwa kwa kwa.

the nappies and gearbox bearings are costing lots. I did get my haircut though  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on December 29, 2011, 07:46:03 am
Hi me up for a ride as soon as is going again, and before my bike breaks again. Having some funky elecrical problems a the mo  :patch:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on December 29, 2011, 07:57:13 am
I did get my haircut though  :thumleft:

Why???  You don't need a haircut to ride.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on December 29, 2011, 07:58:08 am
I did get my haircut though  :thumleft:

Why???  You don't need a haircut to ride.
:deal:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on December 29, 2011, 08:54:32 pm
I did get my haircut though  :thumleft:

Why???  You don't need a haircut to ride.

Figured it would help pass the time while Superbike fix my gearbox bearings - you do need those to ride  :'(
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on December 30, 2011, 07:06:20 am
I did get my haircut though  :thumleft:

Why???  You don't need a haircut to ride.

Figured it would help pass the time while Superbike fix my gearbox bearings - you do need those to ride  :'(
So while your waiting why not price some parts for me :deal:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on December 30, 2011, 11:14:09 pm
So while your waiting why not price some parts for me :deal:

This is not helping my pimp-thread.

Sure. What you want priced?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on December 31, 2011, 06:24:09 am
So while your waiting why not price some parts for me :deal:

This is not helping my pimp-thread.

Sure. What you want priced?
Ah that oil line spacer I was missing and a chain slider for the swing arm :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 02, 2012, 02:03:56 pm
Hi me up for a ride as soon as is going again, and before my bike breaks again. Having some funky elecrical problems a the mo  :patch:

BMW quality  :imaposer: when are you gonna buy a real bike dude?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 18, 2012, 12:08:17 pm
I should get my bike back on Monday  :thumleft:

There are rumours of 50bhp. I suppose I should learn how to ride.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: g1_ on January 18, 2012, 12:53:42 pm
There are rumours of 50bhp. I suppose I should learn how to ride.

That's a fair few more hp's than normal. Is that because of the big bore kit?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Bus on January 18, 2012, 04:40:19 pm
Dont bet on 50 at the wheel... Unless you added a stroker kit

Mine was touching on 46 at the wheel...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 18, 2012, 08:54:17 pm
Hot cam
434 piston - big bore barrel
Some fancy air-flow mod on the bottom end of the piston

It's not confirmed yet, we'll see once it's all back together and on the road.

50bhp does seem a lot, stock I was getting 39bhp.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Bus on January 19, 2012, 08:16:14 am
50rwhp on a DRZ requires a big bore kit, stroker kit, FCR41 and extensive valve work. Also a proper header pipe.

Lets see.

Good luck...
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 20, 2012, 09:22:40 pm
Engine's READY!!!!!!

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Engine.jpg)

Collecting on Monday or Tuesday.

I may ask for the crank to be tig-welded, for extra strength  :thumleft: but otherwise we're all good.

Looking at between 45 and 50 bhp :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 23, 2012, 08:09:06 am
 :thumleft:

 :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Wildcoast on January 23, 2012, 08:48:55 am
Sub. post some dyno results and crazy wheelie pics  >:D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on January 26, 2012, 08:31:31 am
Sub. post some dyno results and crazy wheelie pics  >:D

Wheelie pics would insinuate that Milddog can actually ride his 50hp anchor  :deal:  :peepwall:

When we going riding dude?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on January 26, 2012, 08:46:59 am
When we going riding dude?

And is your Yamakar behaving?


MildDog - Bugger the horsepower!  When ARE we riding?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 26, 2012, 09:36:14 am
Yah, this bike will be far faster than I can ride.

I should get it back today (leaky clutch actuator seal that Suzuki South were slow to deliver).

We'll ride this weekend.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on January 26, 2012, 12:14:56 pm
Its behaving now. Turns out it was a faulty relay switch which was difficult to detect. but now my back brake is not releasing the pads properly so riding without back brake for now  :eek7: It's a function of the piston getting stuck in the up position and not sliding down like it is meant to, right near the rear back-brake pedal.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 26, 2012, 03:15:36 pm
Yah, this bike will be far faster than I can ride.
phft so is my 49cc granny scooter ^.^
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on January 26, 2012, 08:35:28 pm
Engine's READY!!!!!!

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Engine.jpg)

Collecting on Monday or Tuesday.

I may ask for the crank to be tig-welded, for extra strength  :thumleft: but otherwise we're all good.

Looking at between 45 and 50 bhp :)

Does it make espresso's  as well or is it just cappuccino's?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: lecap on January 27, 2012, 11:02:46 am
Engine's READY!!!!!!

(http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/adamaa13/Engine.jpg)

Collecting on Monday or Tuesday.

I may ask for the crank to be tig-welded, for extra strength  :thumleft: but otherwise we're all good.

Looking at between 45 and 50 bhp :)

Does it make espresso's  as well or is it just cappuccino's?

Sharp! Lol

I'd still rather use the Bialetti which goes onto the camping stove :D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 27, 2012, 08:32:01 pm
Its way too fast for me now. Rode it last night. Awesome fun.

434 piston and barrel. Light-weight valve springs. Intake-cam. Leo vince pipe. Superbike Solutions air-flow mod.

Haven't dyno'd yet. Will post results when it's done.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Kykdaar on January 28, 2012, 03:41:05 pm
Just read the entire thread now. Jeez, what a rollercoaster ;D

Seems DRZ ownership is everything but boring.

Glad the bike is fixed again :thumleft:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on January 28, 2012, 05:08:42 pm
You're just 16 cc's short of Amageza entry or the cut-off for the Dakar!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 28, 2012, 08:00:31 pm
You're just 16 cc's short of Amageza entry or the cut-off for the Dakar!
+ a rider :-p
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 28, 2012, 10:44:24 pm
I would guess 45hp
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on February 23, 2012, 08:28:45 am
Its way too fast for me now. Rode it last night. Awesome fun.

434 piston and barrel. Light-weight valve springs. Intake-cam. Leo vince pipe. Superbike Solutions air-flow mod.

Haven't dyno'd yet. Will post results when it's done.

Shit, that's some setup you've got there - it's gonna FLY..... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on February 23, 2012, 03:57:00 pm
Shit, that's some setup you've got there - it's gonna FLY..... :biggrin:

It does :) scary. 3rd feels like 2nd used to. 2nd is just insane. lots fun in the sand.

Still haven't dyno'd. will do soon.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MalcolmX on March 15, 2012, 02:18:42 pm
we need to see some pimping man!!
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: letsgofishing on March 15, 2012, 02:23:42 pm
What gearing you running?
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on June 03, 2012, 09:07:50 pm
What gearing you running?

HAHAHA. sorry for the delayed response. been busy being a Dad. so little time to ride :(

I am running 14 - 44.

I will probably go even longer though, like a  15 - 45 or something next.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Dakarboy on August 31, 2012, 03:09:38 pm
Where you been MD?? Been very quiet on the forum? I have't even received any chirps on my bike rebuild that I was suspecting  :peepwall:??
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: Crossed-up on August 31, 2012, 03:35:38 pm
This addictive forum is an occupational hazard for him now. 

How's the DRZ going, and what about some exercise on Sunday???
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on September 05, 2012, 11:22:13 pm
I now have a job that means I cannot check the internet or my phone during the day.

It's pretty weird. But my bike will be all sorted and I will be riding again in the next week or so :)
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: NevMcGyver on October 22, 2012, 04:43:09 pm
Aghh... just a note of thanks... and a little feedback.

Milddog, you may remember selling me a radiator fan...
Just wanted to say Thanks again. Fitted beautifully to my bike - on the LH radiator. Works a dream, especially when tackling some of my fav rides, such as the hill I wanted to conquer (see pic).
 :laughing4:

The ol' DRZ is just so very versatile!
 ;D
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: N[]vA on October 22, 2012, 04:52:25 pm
If you bike is overheating on that hill climb your doing it wrong, just saying :-p
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on October 30, 2012, 08:40:27 am
Aghh... just a note of thanks... and a little feedback.

Milddog, you may remember selling me a radiator fan...
Just wanted to say Thanks again. Fitted beautifully to my bike - on the LH radiator. Works a dream, especially when tackling some of my fav rides, such as the hill I wanted to conquer (see pic).
 :laughing4:

The ol' DRZ is just so very versatile!
 ;D



Very happy to hear you are getting good use out of the fan :)

My bike is up and running. Now to find time between work and parenting to ride...  :'(
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on November 12, 2012, 11:48:31 am
Took it for a burn last night. Bishopscourt to Constantia Nek and back. Gave my cousin on his GSXR 400 a good run through the corners. Very fun. Very silly. Full knobs, riding like a motard.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: LouisXander on January 08, 2013, 03:16:37 pm
OK, I read through the whole thread now. Where are some recent pics of your DRZ? I'm looking at buying one again.
Title: Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
Post by: MildDog on January 13, 2013, 09:33:22 pm
OK, I read through the whole thread now. Where are some recent pics of your DRZ? I'm looking at buying one again.

Will post later this week :)