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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => BMW F800GS / 700GS / 650GS Twins => Topic started by: Remy on September 16, 2011, 11:42:03 am

Title: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 16, 2011, 11:42:03 am
AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH Ek kry nie my fiets gelig in 2de rat nie  :'(
Ek wheelie ni honderde meters nie ek hou net da van om hom nou en dan te lig en dan weer neer te sit dis maklik in eerste ek gee gas en maak toe op 4.5k refs en maak weer oop en dan lig hy maar ek kry dit nie in 2de nie

Moet ek die ding double clutch? en as ja op watse refs help biethie uit asb
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2011, 11:56:20 am
Dunno about the 800, but I got the XT660R up quite easily in 2nd without clutch by accelerating gently to just before the sweet spot in the power and then pushing down on the front and pulling back hard (while sitting back) while whacking the throttle all the way open.

I can imagine the 800 really have enough power to do that (at least more than the 660R)

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 16, 2011, 12:28:11 pm
Yea and Ive seen it done on you tube with the 800 easy so it can do it, I just dont know how or on what refs to wack it I suppose its probably low refs not sure
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2011, 12:30:48 pm
On my bike (the 1200) it is just under the power curve when I start.

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 16, 2011, 12:37:18 pm
On my bike (the 1200) it is just under the power curve when I start.



 :eek7: ok didnt expect it to be that low but will try it this afternoon  hah maybe try it from 500 up to 5000 it has to do something somewhere between those refs.........
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2011, 12:49:21 pm
On mine it is around 2500 - 3000 when I start.


I'll be happy to try it on your bike if you sign a disclaimer

:biggrin:

 :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:


Having said that - the only bikes I have wheelied (by meaning it) was my 1200, a KTM990R and a XT660R.
I know my 1200 well, the 990R just wasn't fair how easy it lifted (even in 3rd) just because of the raw power and the XT660 have a very punchy single with lots of torque and a lekker light front end.

I don't know how the rev happy parallel twin 800 will need to be managed.

You might need to try at different revs and see what happens.

Just be aware - if the bike is anything like mine it will climb relatively slowly up to a point where it will feel like it is 'jumping' for the balance point and beyond.

That is where the 'groot skrik' lies if you're not ready for it.
;D
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 16, 2011, 01:12:13 pm
that groot skrik area is where I shit myself and slam on the break  :biggrin:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: buzzlightyear on September 16, 2011, 01:21:45 pm
some oke did a standing wheelie all the way up the onramp to the n1 at jip de jager next to me, on a roadbike. Only put it down to join the n1, was awesome to see.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2011, 01:30:27 pm
some oke did a standing wheelie all the way up the onramp to the n1 at jip de jager next to me, on a roadbike. Only put it down to join the n1, was awesome to see.

Towards the city ?

I love wheelying up that onramp.

I always just wonder what will happen if I get to the top and a spietkop is already on the N1 looking down on this.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Battlestar on September 16, 2011, 01:33:31 pm
I so wish I was able to wheelie
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 16, 2011, 02:21:29 pm
I so wish I was able to wheelie

It feels good putting smiles on peoples faces when you just lift the nose with ease even if it is a small wheelie atleast its a start
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Gee S on September 17, 2011, 12:19:17 am
I wheelie my 800 into the revlimiter in 1st but have never been able to get it up in 2nd and I am too scared to change to 2nd during a wheelie. I hope someone will share the secret >:D
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 17, 2011, 08:00:58 am
I wheelie my 800 into the revlimiter in 1st but have never been able to get it up in 2nd and I am too scared to change to 2nd during a wheelie. I hope someone will share the secret >:D

I am too scared to lift it in first and shift over neutral into 2nd.

If I lift in 1st its just for a quick 'over an intersection' lift.

If I want to do a longer one (for me at least) it have to start in 2nd as the shift from 2nd to 3rd and 4th is way less scary than the shift from 1st to 2nd.

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 17, 2011, 08:43:00 am
This is not a huge awesome wheelie, but the guy makes it look sooooooo easy. This must be in 2nd gear as his speed looks way to fast for first gear. Nice power wheelies. I wish I could do this.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5Wb90_kyNrU&feature=player_embedded

 :ricky:

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: buzzlightyear on September 17, 2011, 08:58:45 am
some oke did a standing wheelie all the way up the onramp to the n1 at jip de jager next to me, on a roadbike. Only put it down to join the n1, was awesome to see.

Towards the city ?

I love wheelying up that onramp.

I always just wonder what will happen if I get to the top and a spietkop is already on the N1 looking down on this.

;D ;D ;D

Yip, I pulled away at the same time as him, and couldn't understand why he was not overtaking, and why his engine sound stayed constant, then I looked in my mirror  ;D
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 17, 2011, 09:18:07 am
Remy - I just thought about it when I saw the guy with the luggage on - when I started out things were easier when I had the topbox on.

If you have one it could ease you into the feeling of lifting the front a little higher.

Not saying you need to put a car battery in it, but if there is some weight in it the front comes up easier and balance point is a little lower.

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 17, 2011, 09:19:40 am
Yip, I pulled away at the same time as him, and couldn't understand why he was not overtaking, and why his engine sound stayed constant, then I looked in my mirror  ;D

I wish I could do that.

I can make it accelerate slower, but I can't do a controlled balance point stay at the same speed one.

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Runner on September 17, 2011, 08:41:54 pm
This is not a huge awesome wheelie, but the guy makes it look sooooooo easy. This must be in 2nd gear as his speed looks way to fast for first gear. Nice power wheelies. I wish I could do this.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5Wb90_kyNrU&feature=player_embedded

 :ricky:



Die ou wheelie soos 'n girl.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 17, 2011, 10:03:05 pm
Die ou wheelie soos 'n girl.

Wel, daai girl wheelie beter as ek!!!

 :imaposer: :imaposer:

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 18, 2011, 09:13:42 am
wee die naweek probeer en niks nie 1ste baie maklik 2de wil net nie wheelie nie ek kort serious help
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on September 18, 2011, 10:13:32 am
Remy, ek het al die 800 probeer wheelie en ook my gat af gesukkel in 2de. Probeer bietjie verder agtertoe sit, dit maak groot verskil.
PM dalk vir Backwheelbandit hier opie forum. Ek weet hy wheelie sy 800 laat dit klap. Hy sal jou moontlik die geheim vir die 800 kan gee.
En op hele ander trant, kan jy kleiner voor sprocket opsit, dit behoort baie te help. Gearing maak moerse verskil met wheelies.
Hou ons op hoogte.
Bus
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 19, 2011, 12:38:50 pm
Het die PM gestuur wag nou maar vir die GURU advise  :thumleft:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Smittie Weskus on September 19, 2011, 01:09:15 pm
Clutch hom!, Ek is glad nie 'n ekspert nie, maar wat werk vir my met die KTM is tweede rat, 'n lekker groot hand vol clutch, die adv. bikes se krag le mos omtrent almal in die mid range, 3500rpm, dan spring hy sommer na daar waar jy hom wil he, wees net reg vir hom as hy kom. Het al 'n paar DVD's gekyk oor wheelie, 2de rat is baie meer stable as 1ste rat se hulle en dan sprocketing, verander daai voor sprocket met 'n tant, jy kan dan lekker oefen en dan weer later die standard terug sit.

Moet nie bang wees om te val nie, jy val net tot op die grond! >:D

Ek sukkel weer om ratte te wissel in die wheelie, daar gaan niks van daai KTM se ratkas oor wees soos dit nou aan gaan nie.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 19, 2011, 01:13:57 pm
 :ricky: Lyk my die Wheelie is n ewil
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Pote on September 19, 2011, 01:24:36 pm
Het die PM gestuur wag nou maar vir die GURU advise  :thumleft:
bring jou 800 die Vrydag na Kriges, Bus sal nie omgee om seker weer te probeer nie   >:D
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 19, 2011, 01:27:24 pm
Het die PM gestuur wag nou maar vir die GURU advise  :thumleft:
bring jou 800 die Vrydag na Kriges, Bus sal nie omgee om seker weer te probeer nie   >:D

Hah ek sal ma self my 800 proebeer dankie  :biggrin: wag net vir die ding om nou uit die diens te kom   :patch:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on September 19, 2011, 01:41:08 pm
Smittie, die GS is 'n baie makker perd as die SE...

Maar ek stem saam, die maklikste sal wees om die gearing aan te pas in die leerproses
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 21, 2011, 11:38:15 am
 :'( still no reply or luck lifting it in second guess I will have to try clutching it  :xxbah:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on September 21, 2011, 11:43:42 am
Have you tried sitting further back?
Another more risky way is to stand on the pillion pegs and see what happens...
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Pote on September 21, 2011, 11:44:10 am
:'( still no reply or luck lifting it in second guess I will have to try clutching it  :xxbah:
bring hom Kriges toe, daar sal genoeg advies vir jou wees na so paar biere...
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 21, 2011, 11:59:09 am
Ja ek sit op die pillion se seat al  ???

Lyk my julle wil my gesuip maak en dan advies gee
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on September 21, 2011, 12:01:20 pm
Hehehe...
Ja, dan is wheelies op hulle lekkerste

:laughing7:

Ek dink regtig jy moet dalk na daai voorste sprocket kyk...
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 21, 2011, 12:22:34 pm
Wat is n goeie sprocket Kom-binne-hasie?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on September 21, 2011, 12:37:59 pm
Maklikste antwoord is om 1 tand kleiner te gaan voor. Dan hoef jy nie te worry oor ketting lengte etc nie. Miskien hou jy genoeg daarvan om dit op te hou. Dit gaan obviously jou cruising revs lig, maar jou trekkrag deur die ratte verbeter.
Hang natuurlik af of daar kleiner voor sprockets beskikbaar is  vir die 800.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: weskus on September 21, 2011, 04:02:21 pm
Ek het 'n 16 front sprocket op en optel in 2de is nie 'n probleem nie, as die revs reg is selfs in 3de, veral oor 'n speedbump...Jy boet bietjie top-end in maar op die 800 hardloop die fiets uit krag uit voordat dit uit revs hardloop so die fiets trek heelwat beter.. 190km/h gemaklik tot teen redline!
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: bonova on September 21, 2011, 04:11:40 pm
I loved wheelying my 800. the way i did it was picking it up in 1st and changing to second once up. it's easier than u think, and saves the clutch, cause i found in second that i had to either clutch it or pull like hell!

If u looking at the rev counter, u looking in the wrong place  ;) ... look for taxi's rather!!!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 21, 2011, 04:28:53 pm
 :thumleft: Dankie ouens sal bietjie kyk

Ek wheelie nie wa taxi's kinders of velkro voor my kan in hardloop ni
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Stoetbul on September 21, 2011, 04:32:24 pm
:thumleft: Dankie ouens sal bietjie kyk

Ek wheelie nie wa taxi's kinders of velkro voor my kan in hardloop ni
Remy,gooi my 'n PM dan ry jy met daai fiets tot by my innie Paarl in. Ons vat my fiets,jy ry langs my en kyk wat ek doen en try dit op joune. Wat vir die 1 werk,werk nie altyd vir die ander nie,maar die prinsiep bly dieselfde.
Jy sal dit gouer onder die knie kry as jy sien wat iemand anders doen.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on September 21, 2011, 04:34:14 pm
Is daar 'n wheelie machine in Slaapstad ?




Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Pote on September 21, 2011, 04:35:18 pm
:thumleft: Dankie ouens sal bietjie kyk

Ek wheelie nie wa taxi's kinders of velkro voor my kan in hardloop ni
en passop as daar 'n cast iron in die voertuig is
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on September 21, 2011, 06:03:10 pm
Ek het 'n 16 front sprocket op en optel in 2de is nie 'n probleem nie, as die revs reg is selfs in 3de, veral oor 'n speedbump...Jy boet bietjie top-end in maar op die 800 hardloop die fiets uit krag uit voordat dit uit revs hardloop so die fiets trek heelwat beter.. 190km/h gemaklik tot teen redline!

Da het jy dit nou uit die perd se bek uit!

Ek dink jy moet die sprocket doen en dan vir Stootie gan kuier. Ek sal saamkom met kampstoel en bier.

:evil6:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Moondog on September 21, 2011, 06:10:23 pm
Ek het 'n 16 front sprocket op en optel in 2de is nie 'n probleem nie, as die revs reg is selfs in 3de, veral oor 'n speedbump...Jy boet bietjie top-end in maar op die 800 hardloop die fiets uit krag uit voordat dit uit revs hardloop so die fiets trek heelwat beter.. 190km/h gemaklik tot teen redline!

Da het jy dit nou uit die perd se bek uit!

Ek dink jy moet die sprocket doen en dan vir Stootie gan kuier. Ek sal saamkom met kampstoel en bier.

:evil6:

En 'n kamera!
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: backwheelbandit on September 21, 2011, 07:30:46 pm
thanks for the recommendation Bus.  :laughing4:

im a first gear wheelie person, only ever got the GS up in second by standing and loading the front ...

saying that, my GS has just eaten another clutch  >:( >:( >:( >:(   4500km ....WTF, hopefully its a fault. I've wheelied every bike i have ever owned and never had clutch issues.



Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 26, 2011, 07:53:08 am
ek kort n wheelie machine het my quad amper die naweek omged*nder net omdat my throtle control kak is  :patch:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Jacobsroodt on October 13, 2011, 10:39:09 am
Het jy al 'n Accelerator Module probeer? Dit verminder die throttle sensitiwiteit en gee meer krag. My fiets was maar pap onder 4000rpm. Die AM het dit verander - trek baie lekker as jy die oor draai. Van die 1200GS ryers het al ges dat hulle makliker wheelie met 'n AM.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Andre.Bike on January 05, 2012, 09:34:53 am
Remy, ek het die acc module gehad met n volle Remus sisteem op die 800 en kon ook net die bike in eerst rat gelig kry. Het dit ook net gedoen tot die revs uithardloop en kon hom nooit op balancing point hou nie - te farking bang. Het my gat al lelik vroeer jare met my RZ50 gesien. Ek sal dink dat as jy die voorste sprocket verander sal dit baie help. Wees maar net versigtag - dit pad is nie van spons gemaak nie. My GSA lig maklik in tweede, maar ek hou hom ook nie daar vir te lank nie. Het al amper my gat so n slag of wat gesien, maar dit in farking lekker as jy so n ent in die lug was. Die regte manier is seker om na n ou te gaan wat kan weelie dat hy jou so n paar pointers gee.  :)
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Dwerg on January 05, 2012, 09:56:09 am
Daar het ander dag 'n ou voor my gery op lynwood weg. 800GS met 'n Vrystaat nommerplaat en hy het shorts en t-shirt aangehad. Hy het die bike in tweede tot by die balance punt opgetel en hom daar gehou vir 'n goeie stuk tot hy op die N1 opgedraai het. Daars darem min dinge so mooi soos 'n goeie wheelie. Ek kan net in eerste rat tot die revs uithardloop  :ricky:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: donovan paton on January 05, 2012, 10:25:41 am
Easy way to practice, find a bump in the road, find a comfortable speed, as you hit the bump slip the clutch, pull a bit on the bars and it will lift. I can get my KLr to lift in 3rd if I get it just right. Just don't pull morsa hard on the bars, you will kak yourself if you loose your grip.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Dwerg on April 11, 2013, 03:53:20 pm
Revive...

Begin nou vir die eerste keer my 800 wheelie. Die toe oop ding lig glad nie. Kry hom net op lae revs in eerste met clutch gelig. Nog te bang om te probeer ratte verander. Het iemand anders al vordering gemaak?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: jeandrep on April 11, 2013, 08:31:04 pm
Ek sukkel net so met die 800. Ek kon my KLR in 2de oplig, maar kry nie eers die 800 op gelig in 1ste nie. Hoe lig julle in eerste? Maak net oop :)
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: WP on April 12, 2013, 08:56:04 am
Ek het van 'n ou wat kan wheelie gehoor jy lig hom in eerste, en sodra hy begin lig sit jy hom oor 2de toe en speel van daar af verder... :ricky:

Ek kan lekker wheelie met my 250 2 stroke, en ek moet se die oefening op die klein bike help baie met die groter bikes...
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Dwerg on April 12, 2013, 09:31:12 am
Ek het van 'n ou wat kan wheelie gehoor jy lig hom in eerste, en sodra hy begin lig sit jy hom oor 2de toe en speel van daar af verder... :ricky:

Ek kan lekker wheelie met my 250 2 stroke, en ek moet se die oefening op die klein bike help baie met die groter bikes...

Yip as mens hom clutch op lae revs in eerste sping hy mooi op. Eks net nog besig om dit gewoond te raak met die agter briek storie voor ek die ratte storie probeer  :P

Eks besig om te soek vir 'n plastic want as dinge verkeerd gaan met sulke goed is dit darem bietjie cheaper
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: WP on April 12, 2013, 10:28:25 am
Ek het van 'n ou wat kan wheelie gehoor jy lig hom in eerste, en sodra hy begin lig sit jy hom oor 2de toe en speel van daar af verder... :ricky:

Ek kan lekker wheelie met my 250 2 stroke, en ek moet se die oefening op die klein bike help baie met die groter bikes...

Yip as mens hom clutch op lae revs in eerste sping hy mooi op. Eks net nog besig om dit gewoond te raak met die agter briek storie voor ek die ratte storie probeer  :P

Eks besig om te soek vir 'n plastic want as dinge verkeerd gaan met sulke goed is dit darem bietjie cheaper

Die wortel wil mos syne smous...

Nevermind cheaper, ek het myne geflip nou die dag teen 'n redelike spoed, het net die bike gesoek, opgetel en verder gery...
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Dwerg on April 12, 2013, 10:30:39 am
Ek het van 'n ou wat kan wheelie gehoor jy lig hom in eerste, en sodra hy begin lig sit jy hom oor 2de toe en speel van daar af verder... :ricky:

Ek kan lekker wheelie met my 250 2 stroke, en ek moet se die oefening op die klein bike help baie met die groter bikes...

Yip as mens hom clutch op lae revs in eerste sping hy mooi op. Eks net nog besig om dit gewoond te raak met die agter briek storie voor ek die ratte storie probeer  :P

Eks besig om te soek vir 'n plastic want as dinge verkeerd gaan met sulke goed is dit darem bietjie cheaper

Die wortel wil mos syne smous...

Nevermind cheaper, ek het myne geflip nou die dag teen 'n redelike spoed, het net die bike gesoek, opgetel en verder gery...

Eks tempted vir syne maar ek soek 2 stroke eintlik. Eerste prys is 'n 200
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Tman21 on June 20, 2013, 07:15:33 am
Ekt my bike nou al 3 keer gery, die oop toe werk te lekker en kon so paar keer eerste rat klaar maak mt voorwiel ini lug maar di revs tel nog biki vinnig op. ek dink ek het n comfort seat of iets so dis biki moeilik om terug te skyf, maar soos wat ek die krag gage sal die optel in 1ste en 2de toe sit die beste en maklikeste wees!
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: w@nted on June 20, 2013, 07:29:57 am
Ekt my bike nou al 3 keer gery, die oop toe werk te lekker en kon so paar keer eerste rat klaar maak mt voorwiel ini lug maar di revs tel nog biki vinnig op. ek dink ek het n comfort seat of iets so dis biki moeilik om terug te skyf, maar soos wat ek die krag gage sal die optel in 1ste en 2de toe sit die beste en maklikeste wees!

Se my maar net as jy wil ontslae raak van die comfort seat...Om gemakliker te kan wheelie  :deal:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Pom17 on June 20, 2013, 08:12:05 am
Ekt my bike nou al 3 keer gery, die oop toe werk te lekker en kon so paar keer eerste rat klaar maak mt voorwiel ini lug maar di revs tel nog biki vinnig op. ek dink ek het n comfort seat of iets so dis biki moeilik om terug te skyf, maar soos wat ek die krag gage sal die optel in 1ste en 2de toe sit die beste en maklikeste wees!

Se my maar net as jy wil ontslae raak van die comfort seat...Om gemakliker te kan wheelie  :deal:

If its the seat in the ppic its not a comfort seat but a lower seat, same as the standard seat but it has the dip to lower it. The lower seat is nice for us shorties but the comfort seat is truly a next level of comfortable compared to the lower and standard seat. It also has the dip but is wider

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s397/Pom1717/sadfg_zps71318af0.jpg) (http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/Pom1717/media/sadfg_zps71318af0.jpg.html)


Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Tman21 on June 20, 2013, 08:34:12 am
Ahaa! Thanx, yes indeed I have a lowered seat, and coming of a plastic and a SV1000 its a comfort seat to me :ricky:!
Thanx for clarification tho! :thumleft:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Wit Roftie on July 25, 2013, 04:19:29 pm
Hoe gaan dit nou Remy?

Al gevorder met die probleem?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Wit Roftie on July 30, 2013, 03:59:59 pm
Het julle nou maar opgegee?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Tman21 on July 30, 2013, 04:36:53 pm
Het hom al op gekry in 2de, maar jy moet hard werk om hom op te kry en hy lig redelik vinnig.
Eerste rat het ek hom amper op balance point maar nou wil ek by julle weet???
Hoe die ford sien jy voor jo as daai centre console voor jo is? Ek try aan die kant verby kyk maar dt trek my biki skeef!
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Eisbein on July 30, 2013, 05:07:46 pm
Het hom al op gekry in 2de, maar jy moet hard werk om hom op te kry en hy lig redelik vinnig.
Eerste rat het ek hom amper op balance point maar nou wil ek by julle weet???
Hoe die ford sien jy voor jo as daai centre console voor jo is? Ek try aan die kant verby kyk maar dt trek my biki skeef!

Ek sit bietjie 'off centre' sodat ek langs die tenk verby kan loer sonder dat hy skeef trek.

Op die 1200 is die beste plek om tussen die indicator en die BMW badge deur te loer, maar jy moet seker maak voor jy hom lig daar's geen moontlike verassings aan die ander kant as waar jy kyk nie, want jy is totaal blind aan daardie kant wanneer die voorwiel in die lug is.

Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Tman21 on July 30, 2013, 06:36:39 pm
Daar het ander dag 'n ou voor my gery op lynwood weg. 800GS met 'n Vrystaat nommerplaat en hy het shorts en t-shirt aangehad. Hy het die bike in tweede tot by die balance punt opgetel en hom daar gehou vir 'n goeie stuk tot hy op die N1 opgedraai het. Daars darem min dinge so mooi soos 'n goeie wheelie. Ek kan net in eerste rat tot die revs uithardloop  :ricky:

Het daai GS soos myne gelyk? :biggrin:
Ek het nou 'n GP plate maar ek ry nogsteeds rond hier in die Ooste met plakkies en my PT shorts!
My redenasie van so 'n kaalgat wheelie is dat ek gaan nie veel pyn voel as ek dink aan die skade op my bike as die poef die waaier tref! :pottytrain5:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Dwerg on July 30, 2013, 06:43:39 pm
Daar het ander dag 'n ou voor my gery op lynwood weg. 800GS met 'n Vrystaat nommerplaat en hy het shorts en t-shirt aangehad. Hy het die bike in tweede tot by die balance punt opgetel en hom daar gehou vir 'n goeie stuk tot hy op die N1 opgedraai het. Daars darem min dinge so mooi soos 'n goeie wheelie. Ek kan net in eerste rat tot die revs uithardloop  :ricky:

Het daai GS soos myne gelyk? :biggrin:
Ek het nou 'n GP plate maar ek ry nogsteeds rond hier in die Ooste met plakkies en my PT shorts!
My redenasie van so 'n kaalgat wheelie is dat ek gaan nie veel pyn voel as ek dink aan die skade op my bike as die poef die waaier tref! :pottytrain5:

Hoe lank het jy al jou gs?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Tman21 on July 30, 2013, 06:50:59 pm
Ekt gou op my online banking gaan loer, ek het haar die 6de Junie gan haal!
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on September 16, 2013, 08:40:18 pm
brag julle???? :patch:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Jaaks on September 27, 2013, 02:06:47 pm
Wie gaan vi ons 'n "wheely" klas reel ?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bligw on September 28, 2013, 07:30:29 pm
My bike nou twee weke. Geniet dit verskriklik maar dink nie ek moet nou al try wheelie nie. Nie bang ek val nie maar eerder vir my snot klap van my vrou 
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: DirtHound on September 28, 2013, 08:05:11 pm
To you okes who wheelie your bikes on 1st, I'm sure you'll feel a bit more comfortable starting in a higher gear with a slight dip of the clutch.
I only lift the front wheel in 3rd - it feels so much safer. Wheel comes gradually up, not like in first or second where the front "explodes" from the ground.
3rd also lets you ride on the back wheel longer before you need to shift. I'm not comfortable enough yet to shift with the front wheel in the air. Perhaps that will change in time.

Best advice is to practice, practice practice.
Title: Re: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: G Steyn on September 28, 2013, 08:15:49 pm
Daar is nie 'n manier dat daai GS van my gaan lig in 3de nie.

My WR450 is 'n ander storie......

Die GS800 het nogals heelwat oorreding nodig om in eerste op te tel.

Persoonlik voel ek, gebruik die ratkas soos dit veronderstel is. Tel op in eerste, tweede, derde, ens.

Dit voel my mens trek die fiets deur deur te probeer optel in tweede, ens....
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Pom17 on September 29, 2013, 08:44:44 am
The 800GS can't lift in 3rd. I don't think it will lift even if you have a fat wife sitting on your top box with a car battery inside accelerating on an incline while popping the clutch
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: jeandrep on September 29, 2013, 07:22:05 pm
I have tried in second as well. I manage to lift the wheel in first gear by slipping the clutch. No luck in second yet.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: jeandrep on December 13, 2013, 03:29:35 pm
Any progress anybody. Getting better in first when slipping the clutch. I can get it to balance point quite easy now, but to keep it there, thats the problem :).

Does anybody have some new tips for second gear?
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Jacobsroodt on May 28, 2014, 05:54:21 pm
On a recent gravel road trip from Cape Town to the Eastern Cape, fully laden with pillion and ASC off I lifted the front unintentionally in 3rd at 80km/h+ while passing a car on Bains Kloof. It was a proper but unintended wheelie past slower traffic. My sister's son aged 18 - pillion - enjoyed it the most :pot:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on May 28, 2014, 06:08:32 pm
Hoe dik is daai laaitie?

:oscar:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Herklaas on May 28, 2014, 06:45:52 pm
 :spitcoffee: :imaposer: Wat gaan aan ek sien nie een Tiger 800 responce nie, ek dink die 800 xc behoort gou te kan wheelie in tweede as ek na die groote van die agterste sprokket kyk.
Nee, ek willie wheelie nie, eks te bang dit gaan my 'n klomp geld kos in die leer proses.  :sip:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Jacobsroodt on June 02, 2014, 08:45:44 am
Hoe dik is daai laaitie?

:oscar:
Nee - hy is lig. Weeg maar 65kg :-\
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2014, 08:50:10 am
Hehehe... Ek skeer sommer gek.

Het ook al amper geflip met iemand agter op.

Die centre of gravity skuif redelik ver agtertoe en is goeie vermaak as jy nie daarvoor beplan nie.

 ;)
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Lommies on June 02, 2014, 09:48:14 am
Hehehe... Ek skeer sommer gek.

Het ook al amper geflip met iemand agter op.

Die centre of gravity skuif redelik ver agtertoe en is goeie vermaak as jy nie daarvoor beplan nie.

 ;)

volgende rally bash, dan kyk ons bietjie of my 800 2up kan voorwiel lig  :imaposer:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Bus on June 02, 2014, 09:52:27 am
Jy alleen tel mos as 2up, so laat ons mar weet...

:evil6:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Lommies on June 02, 2014, 10:31:55 am
maak jy my gevoelentes nou seer  :'(
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Heddles on November 22, 2014, 08:06:19 am
Any progress anybody. Getting better in first when slipping the clutch. I can get it to balance point quite easy now, but to keep it there, thats the problem :).

Does anybody have some new tips for second gear?

When I first rode one, I tried and sort of thought, nah.. Gonna hurt this bike. But I spotted some guy on one on the M5, pulled away from a light and as he put it in 2nd, hoisted it up high. I didn't see him put it down, changed at least three gears before I lost sight. High up in the air, low revs, steady throttle, relaxed, controlled wheelie. Next time I rode one, I started to feel my way around first gear. took a few tries and I was picking it up in second as well.. But as  personal choice, I like to gently lift it in first and go to second in the hoist. Balance it and gently go through the gears. Depends on the road, what gear I stay in. About 110km/h max, and they will go through to sixth...

Your skill and experience will allow for different approaches. Confidence also helps. The lower the gear, the easier it is to lift. But the more snappy the response is. I learned back in the day, to lift a small XR200, in third. But that was a small light bike. As the skill improved, I was able to balance wheelie it it 1st, up reasonably steep hills...
But beware.. The higher the gear, the higher the speed, the more work involved in lifting the bike. Keep your wits about you.. Throttle control is of massive importance. Practice that while riding normally.. Make sure that you are able to make tiny changes in throttle position. It is what you require to control a bike on it's back wheel...

And yes, these bikes have clutch issues. I don't know the intricacies of them but they have issues. I am not convinced that wheelies will make them any worse though..

Correctly used, a clutch doesn't take strain with wheelies. It loads it no more than a normal fast, hard pullaway...
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Omninorm on November 24, 2014, 09:43:51 am
It's easier than you think by lookign at this vid  :biggrin:    

I'm not sure if those panniers were loaded but one thing I did notice... how balanced is that bike!!?? it continues without him until it runs out of steam

http://www.youtube.com/v/1NpMNnvMfUk
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?---update
Post by: Remy on August 25, 2016, 03:34:26 pm
Ok here is how

1st gear. Speed up quick to 4k-5k revs dip the throttle and wack it open again

2nd gear. Around 4k-5k revs pull clutch in, wack the throttle, tap the rear break with your boot quickly and release clutch .

This should be done without losing to much speed in other words practice to do it quick 1 motion. It also works on 3rd
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: FrancoisTz on August 25, 2016, 03:43:16 pm
Nou weet ons hoekom hy stukkend is.
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Remy on August 25, 2016, 03:46:44 pm
Electrical issues van wheeli??? Sou dink doe grond pad het meer invloed as ek na my ry styl kyk
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: StevenGS on October 25, 2016, 08:19:55 pm
All this talk of clutching and pulling. You're all doing it wrong.  I have a KTM 1290 Super Duke R, all you do is twist the throttle and viola, done.  O0
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Tom van Brits on October 27, 2016, 12:17:17 pm
It is easier to learn on a bike that is not yours  :peepwall: I have worked for a year on a medical response bike and started by accelerating hard, clos throttle and open all the way and sitting back. The 650 VStrom lifted and son soon I leaned to shift to second. Do not use the clutch, just tip it up and you find that you immideatlely need to give more throttle or she goes down. I got a few fingers from the public on the highway sometimes, the old tannies did not like the tricks but probably because they through I was a traffic cop  :imaposer:
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: Sandvreter on December 08, 2016, 07:12:41 am
Wel ek het gedink die 800 GSA is die most underpowered bleddie ding wat ek kon koop.
Moet werk om hom te wheelie.
Toe sien ek nee, ek kan net nie f@king bike ry nie


Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: m0lt3n on December 08, 2016, 08:36:33 am
julle ouens maak my net jaloers. ek sal maar net verder volg en droom
Title: Re: F800GS Wheelie in second gear?
Post by: XRRX on December 08, 2016, 12:31:05 pm
Wel ek het gedink die 800 GSA is die most underpowered bleddie ding wat ek kon koop.
Moet werk om hom te wheelie.
Toe sien ek nee, ek kan net nie f@king bike ry nie



Blixem, ek leen nie daai ou 'n geroeste kruiwa sonder 'n wiel nie!!!  :o :o :o