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Title: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on January 10, 2012, 11:10:18 am
It seems that there is not going to be a Botswana Desert race this year.

That is really bad news - was such a great event last year.

Let's hope it is something that the organisers are working on and hopefully we can have it sorted and have a race!!

Message from Alan Reid, last year's organiser:

"Hi
 
Thanks for the mail but due to an issue / dispute between Motorsport SA / Bike Commission and Botswana Motor Sport there will not be a Mantshwabisi in 2012
 
We are really disappointed but we cannot fight officialdom
 
Alan"
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Panne on January 10, 2012, 11:26:00 am
Biggest issue probably lies with MSA, if you ask me!  :dousing:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: RobC on January 10, 2012, 11:42:57 am
MX and Circuit Bikes have broken away from MSA afaik... the rest are bound to follow.
The court found MSA's rules to be in conflict with various laws and the Constitution.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: GRIM on January 10, 2012, 01:44:25 pm
MX and Circuit Bikes have broken away from MSA afaik... the rest are bound to follow.
The court found MSA's rules to be in conflict with various laws and the Constitution.

Wrong, The court dismissed the MSA application on technical grounds. So no actual ruling, MSA just stuffed up their application.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: RobC on January 10, 2012, 02:04:40 pm
MX and Circuit Bikes have broken away from MSA afaik... the rest are bound to follow.
The court found MSA's rules to be in conflict with various laws and the Constitution.

Wrong, The court dismissed the MSA application on technical grounds. So no actual ruling, MSA just stuffed up their application.

No, a dismissal is a ruling!
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/motorsport/msa-ruling-could-affect-other-sports-1.1182978
and the actual ruling
http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPPHC/2011/210.html
Reading between the lines and from my sources the judge has his doubts that this case would stand the test of the Constitution with regard to the right of free association and other laws, especially the Competition Act which opposes cartels etc.
MSA, if it was serious would have made haste in this regard but since the ruling has dragged its feet and turned a blind eye to the competitors wishes, they even closed shop and went on leave while they in fact have a crisis of magnitude to attend to... they have for far too long had the club in the hand to batter organizers, clubs and competitors into submission without really doing much to uplift the sport. Now they are exposed as toothless old dogs drooling on the stoep of mediocrity. >:D
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beemer Mike on January 11, 2012, 09:56:57 am
As one of the marshals I have heard nothing... yet I would not be surprised due to the lack of management of last year's race. Alot of key officials have stepped down this year as well.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on January 11, 2012, 10:18:01 am
As one of the marshals I have heard nothing... yet I would not be surprised due to the lack of management of last year's race. Alot of key officials have stepped down this year as well.

BM - will you check if you can find out something? I wonder if someone is pushing/ trying to get the thing going. Or is it laready a lost cause?

Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beemer Mike on January 11, 2012, 12:48:59 pm
As one of the marshals I have heard nothing... yet I would not be surprised due to the lack of management of last year's race. Alot of key officials have stepped down this year as well.

BM - will you check if you can find out something? I wonder if someone is pushing/ trying to get the thing going. Or is it laready a lost cause?



Will do. Stand by.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Hoofseun on January 12, 2012, 09:11:38 am
This is the race I was really looking forward to.  Have also sent and enquiry to the guys in Bots, but have not heard anything.  Only the cars are on the MSA Calendar.

This is a very nice event and I hope that they can get it off the ground!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beemer Mike on March 01, 2012, 03:18:26 pm
Well does anyone know anyone from Woemsa? If MSA dont want it then mebbe Woemsa can take it over?
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beemer Mike on March 07, 2012, 01:17:04 pm
(Ssssssccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but the race is back on) :thumleft:

Details still in planning stage.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on March 07, 2012, 02:55:05 pm
(Ssssssccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but the race is back on) :thumleft:

Details still in planning stage.
Saw on e-dirt - we are very happy to hear!!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Hoofseun on March 12, 2012, 10:19:02 am
Good news!!!

Press release

 In 1975 The Four Wheel Drive Club of Southern Africa – Gauteng Branch (FWDCSA) held the first Trans Kalahari Road race in the Vryburg area, then in 1980 the race moved to Botswana and the Toyota Desert Race was born. The first bikes competed in the event in 1986; with quads joining a few years later and for most of the time Bikes and Quads have been an integral part of the annual Toyota Desert 1000 Race (TDR), which is part of the ABSA Off Road series.

 The FWDCSA is pleased to announce that The Mantshwabisi 1000 event is once again an addition to the Southern Africa Off Road Bike and Quad calendar.

 This marathon race now in its second year as a stand-alone event is named after the village which the race used for many years as an overnight stop; brings with it all the history and the legacy of the past but in a new format for bikes and quads which will soon rival similar events such as the Roof of Africa and the Baja.

 Taking place on June 21st and 22nd 2012 (before the TDR) the competitors will use 2 loops of 250 kilometers as their route, beginning and ending at Race Headquarters / DSP located in the village of Kumakwane. The DSP is a fully fenced, secure 85 000 square meter “Dakar Style” encampment north of Kumakwane, a small village 25kms west of Gaborone, with dedicated pit areas, wash bays, full bar & catering, all amenities, medical facilities, camping area and spectator grand stands.

 Documentation takes place from 14h00 on the 20th and the competitors will race one or two laps of the 250km route; challenging the skills, tenacity and endurance of both rider and machine; then if that is not tough enough, riders will complete the event by doing another one or two laps of a different 250 km route the next day!

 Bronze 1 loop ridden either on Day 1 or Day 2 (250 Kms)
 Silver 1 loop ridden on each day (500kms)
 Gold 2 loops ridden on Day 1 and 1 loop on Day 2
 Platinum 2 loops ridden on each day (1000kms)

 Across the 500kms of route there are many spectator points and the support of the local population in Botswana is legendary.

 The event will not be part of any South African National or Regional championship.

 Classes are in based simply on engine size as well as the applicable MSA and FIM technical requirements.
 - Bikes Class A – 2 stroke below 200cc or 4 stroke below 250cc
 - Bikes Class B – all other engine sizes
 - Quads open class
 - Touring class for dual purpose or touring bikes of any engine size.

 Within each Class there will be a Ladies category. Within each Class there will a “Golden Oldies” category for riders over 35 years of age
 Minimum age for entry is 16 as at June 1st 2012, but only riders over the age 18 at the same date will be allowed to ride the full 500kms each day; younger riders will only do one lap of the 250km route each day (Bronze or Silver).

 In order to compete, riders will have to comply with the following:
 - Be holders of a valid and recognised National, Regional or Club competition licience for any form of Bike or Quad racing.
 - Have competed in at least 1event in the 12 months prior to June 1st 2012.
 - Be in possession of adequate medical insurance valid for competitive motorsport in Botswana.
 - Be physically fit and with a MSA medical clearance if applicable.

 Over the years, the challenge of riding and surviving the 1000kms through the Botswana bush has drawn many riders and those who have had the skill, spirit, courage and determination proudly display their finisher’s medals and trophies. Stories abound of the race amongst those who have risen to this challenge and completed the race.

 Prize money will be dependent on the final number of entries plus trophies and medals await those riders who have the “right stuff” to tackle this event with entries opening on April 15th 2012. Numbers will be restricted to 200 entrants in total and the entry fee will start from R650.

 The race is being organized by the team from the FWDCSA with all its more than 30 years’ experience of managing the TDR and promises to be a world class event. The competitors will be supported by a race structure second to none – 50 government officials, 450 policemen and women, 30 Marshals, 12 paramedics, 2 off-road ambulances and 2 road ambulances, a medical helicopter, all of which are managed via full coverage of the route via two radio networks.

 Fuel will be transported by the race organisers to the refuel points which will be manned by teams from the ATV Club in Pretoria who have fulfilled this role for many years.
 Nearby camping and host of other accommodation options in Gaborone are available to entrants and the organisers have agreements in place to smooth the crossing of the border at designated border posts.

 Issued by
 Alan Reid
 Chairman
 2012 Management Team
 info@toyotadesertrace.co.za
 +27834015218
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on March 12, 2012, 11:26:10 am
 :ricky: Will attempt Platinum. Die pens sal moet waai!!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Hoofseun on April 23, 2012, 01:53:46 pm
Just entered the Gold Class, who else is going?

Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Kenisis on April 23, 2012, 02:10:52 pm
:ricky: Will attempt Platinum. Die pens sal moet waai!!
:thumleft:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beserker on May 02, 2012, 12:13:24 pm
:ricky: Will attempt Platinum. Die pens sal moet waai!!

Well, if the "pens" is there at the start of the race..it will be considerably smaller by the end of day 2  :ricky:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: tau on May 02, 2012, 12:16:10 pm
Iemand draai my rubber arm!!!!!! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on May 02, 2012, 12:16:39 pm
:ricky: Will attempt Platinum. Die pens sal moet waai!!

Well, if the "pens" is there at the start of the race..it will be considerably smaller by the end of day 2  :ricky:
I have substantial proof that this is not the case (did it last year as well :deal:)
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on May 02, 2012, 12:18:23 pm
Iemand draai my rubber arm!!!!!! :biggrin:
Kom ouboet jy weet jy wil!!!

Ek wens meer van die honde wil dit doen, dan kan ons minder worry oor die Amageza "non-race" race results en mekaar actually bietjie dice in 'n actual race.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on May 14, 2012, 10:39:20 am
So hoe nou, wat nou?

Vir wie gaan ons in Botswana sien? (Anders as Hoofseun wat reeds ingeskryf het :thumleft:)

Tauster? Kom ouboet - jy kan vir Ross Branch bietjie kompetisie gee die jaar, laasjaar het hy almal goed weggejaag.

Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beserker on May 14, 2012, 10:57:18 am
This race is on my bucket list, and everything was set for me to do it last year (the reason why I did not plan a big trip last year)

2 months before the start, came down hard, broke my arm in four places and spent 9 months with it in a brace.
The Amageza qualifier was my first time on a bike since then..and although the temptation is there, and in my heart I want to, I did not even bother with a MSA license this year (or racing for that matter)

Obviously, the seed is now planted, and motivation for next year had me dusting my mountain bike off for some base fitness.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: tau on May 14, 2012, 11:13:35 am
Ai mense werk vir nuwe baas, my handbriek is erg opgetrek. Ek wag dat hulle my begin sponsor  :imaposer: en tyd afgee vir racing. Ek wil graag die Desert en Koes te gaan race.

NA Amageza het ek 'n absolute mindshift gemaak dat ek net wedrenne doen wat ek geniet en nie goed ry wat nie vir my lekker is nie. So liewers 4 lekker wedrenne per jaar as 8 regionals al om die rondte.

As ek 'n pel kan kry wat saam ry uit die kaap kan ek daaraan dink anders gaan dit te duur raak.(as ek kan afkry by die werk...)
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Panne on May 14, 2012, 11:16:15 am
So hoe nou, wat nou?

Vir wie gaan ons in Botswana sien? (Anders as Hoofseun wat reeds ingeskryf het :thumleft:)

Tauster? Kom ouboet - jy kan vir Ross Branch bietjie kompetisie gee die jaar, laasjaar het hy almal goed weggejaag.



Ek's daar. "Touring Class (Silver)"  :o ;D
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beserker on May 14, 2012, 11:25:54 am
As ek 'n pel kan kry wat saam ry uit die kaap kan ek daaraan dink anders gaan dit te duur raak.(as ek kan afkry by die werk...)

Skimp jy..   :mwink:

Ek sal commit, maar ongelukkig eers vir volgende jaar.

Ek moes 'n paar groot besluite maak aan die begin van die jaar, en omdat ek buite aksie was, was een die laaitie se eerste hap aan die nationals. Daai perd is nou opgesaal, en ek moet hom ry.. :-\
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: tau on May 14, 2012, 12:27:40 pm
As ek 'n pel kan kry wat saam ry uit die kaap kan ek daaraan dink anders gaan dit te duur raak.(as ek kan afkry by die werk...)

Skimp jy..   :mwink:

Ek sal commit, maar ongelukkig eers vir volgende jaar.

Ek moes 'n paar groot besluite maak aan die begin van die jaar, en omdat ek buite aksie was, was een die laaitie se eerste hap aan die nationals. Daai perd is nou opgesaal, en ek moet hom ry.. :-\

Erg pappie erg ..... :imaposer:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on May 14, 2012, 01:32:02 pm
So hoe nou, wat nou?

Vir wie gaan ons in Botswana sien? (Anders as Hoofseun wat reeds ingeskryf het :thumleft:)

Tauster? Kom ouboet - jy kan vir Ross Branch bietjie kompetisie gee die jaar, laasjaar het hy almal goed weggejaag.


Ek's daar. "Touring Class (Silver)"  :o ;D
Lekker Adriaan, laat weet of jy saam met ons wil gaan, dan reel ek die verblyf so.

My Frau wil nie meer saam nie. Harde werk met die kleintjies.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Panne on May 14, 2012, 01:36:20 pm
So hoe nou, wat nou?

Vir wie gaan ons in Botswana sien? (Anders as Hoofseun wat reeds ingeskryf het :thumleft:)

Tauster? Kom ouboet - jy kan vir Ross Branch bietjie kompetisie gee die jaar, laasjaar het hy almal goed weggejaag.


Ek's daar. "Touring Class (Silver)"  :o ;D
Lekker Adriaan, laat weet of jy saam met ons wil gaan, dan reel ek die verblyf so.

My Frau wil nie meer saam nie. Harde werk met die kleintjies.

 :thumleft: Gaan ons kamp?
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: SpeedMetal on May 14, 2012, 08:36:28 pm
Daar sy manne, ons gaan lekker race hierdie jaar. Ry klaar werk toe met n baksteen op my seat om my gat hard te maak!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on June 12, 2012, 09:35:52 pm
Hoofseun, het jy ontrek uit die race?

Nou min dae oor. Sien uit daarna om die race met die 2-stroke aan te pak, laasjaar het die groot 530 baie goed gedoen maar het swaar begin voel diep in die tweede dag. Daar is letterlik duisende sanderige draaie om te negotiate en 'n ligter fiets behoort 'n heel ander storie  te wees.

Sien nou baie uit!!!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: goingnowherequickly on June 24, 2012, 09:58:54 pm
Did you go..?
Love to hear about it if so...
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 25, 2012, 01:02:11 am
 :happy1:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Brakenjan on June 25, 2012, 09:07:32 am
:happy1:

+1  :mwink:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on June 25, 2012, 09:33:47 am
Eish Okes.

I am so disappointed, had a really big crash about 10 kms into the second day and injured my ribs quite badly. Had to retire from the race. My two best friends at the moment are Myprodol and Cataflam.

As far as the race went, the same two loops as last year were used and organisation was great as always. This made the terrain a little more "open" as you did not have to battle the thorn trees all the way, which made the riding even better and a little faster.

Five of us went up together, all the others finished with 1 x platinum, 1 x gold and 2 x silver classes.

This remains my favourite racing event and I will deifintely be there again next year, if there is a race.

For now I won't be riding for a while and will probably take a break from racing for a bit.

Cheers


Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beemer Mike on June 25, 2012, 01:00:57 pm
Some pics:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Beemer Mike on June 25, 2012, 01:02:26 pm
and:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 25, 2012, 06:17:39 pm
Great photees, keep them coming!

Darksider, sorry to hear about your crash.  :-[

That's racing I guess. Is your bike okay? How did you fare on the first day?
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Kenisis on June 25, 2012, 06:29:05 pm
Darksider, sorry to hear of your crash. I assume you have bruised ribs, enjoy the next 6 weeks of pain till it fades away!Happenned to me twice so  far!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on June 26, 2012, 10:05:11 am
Thanks guys, one rib is broken but at least no damage to any organs.

Day 1 riding was great and the bike is OK. Still can't say if the 2T or 4T is better suited for the race. Quite a few 300s in the top spots.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Brakenjan on June 26, 2012, 12:12:12 pm
Again, sorry to hear of your misfortune Darksider.  :'(

If I may, how did this race compare to this year's Amageza? It is obviously much faster and longer and does not include the navigational aspect of the Amageza. But can a novice and average rider like myself rock up and have a good time (like the Amageza)? Of is hierdie race vir die harde baarde soos jy en Chris?
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Katundu on June 26, 2012, 12:29:24 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on June 26, 2012, 01:10:18 pm
Again, sorry to hear of your misfortune Darksider.  :'(

If I may, how did this race compare to this year's Amageza? It is obviously much faster and longer and does not include the navigational aspect of the Amageza. But can a novice and average rider like myself rock up and have a good time (like the Amageza)? Of is hierdie race vir die harde baarde soos jy en Chris?
Heelwat moeiliker as Amageza van 'n uithouvermoe oogpunt, maar glad nie tegnies moeilik nie. Jy gaan nerens vassit nie maar jy moet kan aanhou ry teen 'n redelike pace. Ek hoop die Amageza gaan volgende jaar 'n heelwat taaier event wees.

My en Chris se tye was net onder 4 ure per 250km lap. Gee jou 'n gemiddeld van so 62km/hr. Die time bar is op 5 ure, maw 50km/hr - dit is baie doenbaar vir 'n gemiddelde ryer maar jy moet vir 5 ure kan ry teen 50km/hr, sonder om te rus. My GPS het ook op sy moer gekry so weet nie wat my top spoed was nie maar Chris het 130km/hr gedoen, jy moet gemaklik wees om teen so tipe spoed te kan ry met jou plastic (of minstens 110-120 vir 'n paar kilos) om die vinniger gedeeltes vinnig af te handel.

Jy moet gemaklik in los sand kan corner.

Silwer klas is 250km per dag, as jy nie seker is oor jou fiksheid kan jy altyd hierdie doen.   

Ons het die laaste paar weke by De Wildt 5+ ure rides ingesit (sonder om lank rond te staan of eintlik te rus), dit is goed genoeg - as jy volgende jaar wil doen dan is jy welkom om ons te join vir hierdie rides. Jy sal dan kan sien of jou bike fiksheid en skill level reg is vir die race.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Brakenjan on June 26, 2012, 01:40:38 pm
Ons het die laaste paar weke by De Wildt 5+ ure rides ingesit (sonder om lank rond te staan of eintlik te rus), dit is goed genoeg - as jy volgende jaar wil doen dan is jy welkom om ons te join vir hierdie rides. Jy sal dan kan sien of jou bike fiksheid en skill level reg is vir die race.

Moerse dankie F - dit klink soos 'n great idee. Ek het net gedink dat as volgende jaar se Amageza langer en harder gaan wees en ek (en Rolling Stone) in elk geval daarvoor sal moet oefen sal dit dalk sin maak om die momentum te behou en twee maande later ook hierdie race 'n go te gee - al is dit more likely om in die silwer klas te wees.  :biggrin:

Nogmaals dankie en sterkte met daai ribbes!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Rolling Stone on June 26, 2012, 07:18:46 pm
Sub
hoop die 2012 word n 2013
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 30, 2012, 01:25:10 pm
A friend of mine has his sights on this race in 2013 .. hmmm
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: SpeedMetal on July 22, 2012, 05:04:45 pm
Ja kom nou DS, ek raak nou moeg om sonder jou te gaan bike ry  :pot: kom ons sit vir jou n kidney belt voor ook vas  :imaposer:. PS. Brakenjan, wanneer sien ons julle weer?
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on July 22, 2012, 06:56:50 pm
Ja kom nou DS, ek raak nou moeg om sonder jou te gaan bike ry  :pot: kom ons sit vir jou n kidney belt voor ook vas  :imaposer:. PS. Brakenjan, wanneer sien ons julle weer?
My arme vrou kan ook nie meer met my huishou nie. Ek is soos n beer met n seer tand!
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: ChrisMann on August 05, 2012, 12:45:32 pm
Darksider hoeveel bikes was daar gewees? Ek sit hierdie een op my 2013 lysie. Het die motivering nodig om te begin oefen na ons koue winter.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 05, 2012, 10:36:49 pm
65km/hr average is actually pretty fast going. How is your injury healing DS?
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on August 06, 2012, 07:06:58 am
65km/hr average is actually pretty fast going. How is your injury healing DS?
OK thanks, went for my first ride on Saturday on the plastic and I was comfortable. Fitness not great after 6 weeks of doing nothing though

Chris, about 50-60 bikes over all classes. So still feels "small" which is nice.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Brakenjan on August 07, 2012, 05:44:44 pm
PS. Brakenjan, wanneer sien ons julle weer?

Pra jy Speedmetal!! Dis hoogtyd! Kom ons organise ietsie vir die vroee lente? Dit moet 'n plek met 'n enduro lap wees wat 'n ou kan ry. Sodat ek en Rolling Stone die eerste rondte saam kan ry en daarna kan sit en cheer vir julle boys vir die volgende 4 rondtes!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Rolling Stone on August 09, 2012, 05:05:47 pm
PS. Brakenjan, wanneer sien ons julle weer?

Pra jy Speedmetal!! Dis hoogtyd! Kom ons organise ietsie vir die vroee lente? Dit moet 'n plek met 'n enduro lap wees wat 'n ou kan ry. Sodat ek en Rolling Stone die eerste rondte saam kan ry en daarna kan sit en cheer vir julle boys vir die volgende 4 rondtes!  :biggrin:
Klink na n blink plan.
Some time in September of dalk nog die naweek klink goed. Brakkies is nie die naweek hier nie so ons sal hom nie se nie . ne :peepwall:
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Robski on January 08, 2013, 09:56:21 am
Any idea if the race is on for 2013? Cannot find any info.
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Motties on January 10, 2013, 03:15:16 pm
Any idea if the race is on for 2013? Cannot find any info.
PROVISIONAL Dates 2013 National Off-road Championship

26 Jan (GOC) SEEDING EVENT (TBA)
2 Mar (GOC) Sprint Event Radium (Bela-Bela)
27 Apr (GOC) Sprint Event Bronkhorstspruit
19-21 June (FWDCSA) Double-Header THE MANTSHWABISI (Botswana)
6 July (ZMSA) Standard Event Hluhluwe
10 Aug (GOC) Sprint Event Rysmierbult (Carltonville)
5 Oct (RORMC) Standard Event Ventersdorp
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: blazes on January 10, 2013, 03:40:41 pm
MX and Circuit Bikes have broken away from MSA afaik... the rest are bound to follow.
The court found MSA's rules to be in conflict with various laws and the Constitution.

And we are ALL in the DARK as to what is going to happen in 2013 -- >:(
Title: Re: Botswana Desert Race 2012
Post by: Robski on January 10, 2013, 04:06:54 pm
Thanks Darksider!

Just made a 2013 thread to stay current.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=115083.0