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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: michnus on July 29, 2007, 04:55:13 pm

Title: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: michnus on July 29, 2007, 04:55:13 pm
 
The BMW R1200GS and R1200GS Adventure have broken all records at BMW. They have just rolled out the 100,000th unit, after some 2 years of introducing this popular motorcycle.

The 100,000 consist of R1200GS and the Adventure model (15,600 units). In the same time frame, only half of the old motorcycle, the R1150GS, were sold, so the 1200 version sold twice as many.
http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/bmw-roll-out-100000th-r1200gs-motorcycle.htm (http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/bmw-roll-out-100000th-r1200gs-motorcycle.htm)

Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tok-tokkie on July 29, 2007, 05:06:34 pm
That it sells twice as fast as the predecessor is a great marketing & engineering achievement.  I have no idea how those sales compare to the direct competitors like the KTM 990.

It is interesting that there are 3 okes with short sleeve shirts in the photo.  Not a suit to be seen - more marketing?
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Adventurer on July 29, 2007, 06:12:11 pm
I wonder how many discs they have replaced under warranty? >:D >:D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Plothond on July 29, 2007, 06:34:55 pm
I wonder how many discs they have replaced under warranty? >:D >:D

That will make it 200 000 discs

Highly unlikely !!1 :)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on July 29, 2007, 07:10:34 pm
Thats great ,the more the merrier.....LOVE that rims... ;) ;)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: MuttsNutts on July 30, 2007, 07:00:45 am
Yis those rims are kif ek se  :D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: LostDOG on July 30, 2007, 07:05:31 am
These 1200's sure are pretty!
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Ratel on July 30, 2007, 07:40:46 am
Just put some "spinners" on those kif rims, then they will check lekker cool ek se ;D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Grondpad on July 30, 2007, 07:45:49 am
Check tha clean floor!  8)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tsiklonaut on July 30, 2007, 08:10:52 am
This explains alot IMHO.

Why there's so much jelousy and BMW bashing going around. Normally experimental-bikes don't sell well (i.e. Benelli), they tend to be more rather a niche products, but BMW has broken that line and proven so called "experimental" (first DS with ABS, shaft drive, a DS with telelever, paralever, catalythic converter, add to that a lardy boxer engine, standard heated grips, different turn signals etc etc) bikes can sell very successfully if put into correct, user friendly (DS that is) package.

Socio-political result: jelousy and bashing.

One black sheep among cattle of whites is always hated and bashed. :D

2nd social fact is that any new and different approach or phenomenon that turns out to be different but also more popular than the old approach (good exaple is Einstein's special relativity theory) gets much more opponents, haters and bashers than the old-world's point of view got, but still remains to be the most popular and widely accepted theory among the scientist. But at the same time it has the most opponens, bashers and haters than any theory has ever got in the past.

I'd say pretty much the same phenomenon is happening in the marketing world. The more popular you get with a new approach, the more opponents-haters-bashers you collect.

For example in germany, BMW GS is the most buyed (you can translate it "the most popular") in its class but at the same time the most hated motorcycle trademark, statistics study shows.

Interpretations I leave to you...   ;)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: LostDOG on July 30, 2007, 08:37:21 am
This explains alot IMHO.

Why there's so much jelousy and BMW bashing going around. Normally experimental-bikes don't sell well (i.e. Benelli), they tend to be more rather a niche products, but BMW has broken that line and proven so called "experimental" (first DS with ABS, shaft drive, a DS with telelever, paralever, catalythic converter, add to that a lardy boxer engine, standard heated grips, different turn signals etc etc) bikes can sell very successfully if put into correct, user friendly (DS that is) package.

Socio-political result: jelousy and bashing.

One black sheep among cattle of whites is always hated and bashed. :D

2nd social fact is that any new and different approach or phenomenon that turns out to be different but also more popular than the old approach (good exaple is Einstein's special relativity theory) gets much more opponents, haters and bashers than the old-world's point of view got, but still remains to be the most popular and widely accepted theory among the scientist. But at the same time it has the most opponens, bashers and haters than any theory has ever got in the past.

I'd say pretty much the same phenomenon is happening in the marketing world. The more popular you get with a new approach, the more opponents-haters-bashers you collect.

For example in germany, BMW GS is the most buyed (you can translate it "the most popular") in its class but at the same time the most hated motorcycle trademark, statistics study shows.

Interpretations I leave to you...   ;)

You've lost me T - what are you ranting about?
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tsiklonaut on July 30, 2007, 08:41:01 am

You've lost me T - what are you ranting about?


Search around on this forum, or ANY other motorcycle forum and name me the trademark that is the most hated and bashed and try to understand why. Then you'll understand. ;D

EDIT: Good start here, see how many replys:

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=6325.0
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: IceCreamMan on July 30, 2007, 09:02:28 am
Tsiklonaut , why u call the boxer motor lardy? (serious question btw)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: LostDOG on July 30, 2007, 09:04:11 am

You've lost me T - what are you ranting about?


Search around on this forum, or ANY other motorcycle forum and name me the trademark that is the most hated and bashed and try to understand why. Then you'll understand. ;D

EDIT: Good start here, see how many replys:

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=6325.0

I dont see this thread to be bashing BMW in any way. Or am I wrong - all okes talking about rims ride the BMW's themselves.
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tsiklonaut on July 30, 2007, 09:13:40 am
Tsiklonaut , why u call the boxer motor lardy? (serious question btw)

No, just representing common myth. Seriously answered btw. ;D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tsiklonaut on July 30, 2007, 09:20:29 am

I dont see this thread to be bashing BMW in any way. Or am I wrong - all okes talking about rims ride the BMW's themselves.


Believe me, sooner or later this all turns into another BMW bash fest, 100 000 number is just another excuse to bash, whether in this or in another thread, I'm relatively sure about this ;D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tok-tokkie on July 30, 2007, 09:21:42 am

You've lost me T - what are you ranting about?


Search around on this forum, or ANY other motorcycle forum and name me the trademark that is the most hated and bashed and try to understand why. Then you'll understand. ;D

EDIT: Good start here, see how many replys:

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=6325.0

Come on.  Harley Davidson is bashed way more than BMW.  The common denominator between the two, and why they get bashed, is 'Lifestyle'.  Nothing to do with ground-breaking design or technology - Harley proves my point.
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: LostDOG on July 30, 2007, 09:25:32 am

I dont see this thread to be bashing BMW in any way. Or am I wrong - all okes talking about rims ride the BMW's themselves.


Believe me, sooner or later this all turns into another BMW bash fest, 100 000 number is just another excuse to bash, whether in this or in another thread, I'm relatively sure about this ;D


Wow - you are sensitive  ;D

Just for you - BMW sucks!!!! >:D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: tsiklonaut on July 30, 2007, 09:35:44 am
Come on.  Harley Davidson is bashed way more than BMW.  The common denominator between the two, and why they get bashed, is 'Lifestyle'.  Nothing to do with ground-breaking design or technology - Harley proves my point.

That's precisely my point.

Can you imagine there are now over 100 000 of those guys are fully lifestyle oriented riders only, no real riders, don't know anything about biking, they all buy tonz of expensive Touratech aftermarket crap, expensive Rukka or BMW clothing, always stand while riding, Arai Tour-X posers, never wave to others, all in all BMWs are sh*t bikes, big ugly unreliable awfully underpowered pigs, they never learn in that factory, BMW really does suck as said before.

But there are now over 100 000 of those guys riding the roads!!!??? That's a bloody shame to us all IMHO! ;D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Steady on July 30, 2007, 11:03:14 am
Back to topic.

100 000 bikes in the 1200 sized engine over that length of time is an awesome achievement. Good marketing, good selling and good back up service. I will take a few lessons from that.
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: LostDOG on July 30, 2007, 11:15:17 am
Back to topic.

100 000 bikes in the 1200 sized engine over that length of time is an awesome achievement. Good marketing, good selling and good back up service. I will take a few lessons from that.

You forgot to mention good styling - probably the nicest looking of all DS bikes at present, and that from an eternal KTM fan.
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Maverick on July 30, 2007, 02:42:38 pm
Jis those 1200 bikes are common, very happy I opted for the HP2 now  ;D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Kev on July 30, 2007, 04:51:27 pm
Jis those 1200 bikes are common, very happy I opted for the HP2 now  ;D

Snob!   >:D :P :D
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: GIDEON on July 30, 2007, 04:59:47 pm
Ag crap there still making 1200gs bikes  :o
When do they start the 800GS ::)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Adventurer on July 30, 2007, 07:13:31 pm
Ag crap there still making 1200gs bikes  :o
When do they start the 800GS ::)

Early next year, stick around. :) 8)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: hayleyscomet on July 30, 2007, 09:17:15 pm
The Best Bike ever...Jealousy get you nowhere
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Gooi-Mielies on August 02, 2007, 07:12:54 pm
tsik are you having a bad hair day
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: Elmo on August 06, 2007, 07:33:03 am
The Best Bike ever...Jealousy get you nowhere
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o294/neilloftus/0701320BMW20D220SS6a2020006.jpg)
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: popipants on August 06, 2007, 11:35:59 am
The Best Bike ever...Jealousy get you nowhere
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o294/neilloftus/0701320BMW20D220SS6a2020006.jpg)

Is that a leaky waterpump I see there?
Title: Re: BMW Roll Out 100,000th R1200GS Motorcycle
Post by: LuckyStriker on August 06, 2007, 12:03:22 pm
The Best Bike ever...Jealousy get you nowhere
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o294/neilloftus/0701320BMW20D220SS6a2020006.jpg)

Is that a leaky waterpump I see there?


or a rusting rim?