Wild Dog Adventure Riding

General => Wild Dog Pictures => Topic started by: Nardus on August 04, 2007, 01:28:27 pm

Title: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Nardus on August 04, 2007, 01:28:27 pm
Although 90% of us DS crowd is rather fanatical about our bikes, the performance of our bikes, what we can add onto our bikes, planning trips, packing luggage for trips, going onto trips and sharing our experience once back from a trip, it would be GREAT to share our interactions we had with the local fellows (Africans, PB's, locals, etc.) whilst on a trip.

I think a lot of us have brilliant pictures, not so much of us or our bikes, but of how, where and who we meet and interact with people along our journeys. We are fortunate here in our Republic to have a lot of different cultures within reach of a couple of tanks of fuel and often we capture those special moments on camara.

My hope with this subject is that one of our fellow Wild Dog comrades has a connection in the printing field that could at some stage (once we have enough pics) print the best ones into a coffee table book, or calendar. Somebody could even make a bit of smackeroos on the sideline - as long as I get a cut for the good idea !!

Let me start.

Here we were entertaining some youngsters in the Transkei whilst supporting the local shabeen. Needlesss to say that Hennie was not using his own helmet.


(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/16130440.jpg)

Here MetalJockey was having a cold one (one of many) at the same shabeen with the locals (also after a few cold ones) were entertaining us.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/27151657.jpg)

Whilst fixing a tyre we were joined by this friendly crowd - also in the Transkei.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/17134003.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/17133931.jpg)

On another trip in the Transkei, also whilst fixing a tyre, I was requested to take a picture of this fellow.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/16151303.jpg)

These school children in Lesotho were all too happy to inspect my intentions, rather than listening to the boring school work.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/02094338.jpg)

On route to Malealea in Lesotho, I took this colourful picture of some local fellows at their homestead.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/03160654.jpg)

During our stay at Malealea, this choir entertained us for a good hour. (Nice boobs)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/03181422.jpg)

On route to Lesotho, whilst I was drawing cash from the ATM in my old hometown (Ugie), MetalJockey took this picture of a "to be" trou vrou.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/Picture133.jpg)

On the way to Malawi we saw these sad fellows outside a bar in Zimbabwe. They had no money for a beer and even if they had, there were no beers in the bar !

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/01m.jpg)

This friendly crowd entertained us in a village called Chemba in Mozambique, next to the Zambezi river.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/8g.jpg)

Refueling at Sena in Mozambique. Thousand of people. Do sometimes wonder what they doing there, what their parents are doing for a living and what the future hold for them.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/11.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/14d.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/22.jpg)

At the Malawi border post, whilst I was convincing the officials to let me into Malawi without my Yellow fever card, Hein challenged a local for a game of Bawu.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/24b.jpg)

A very, very old Himba man came to have a look at the 3 bikers who were drinking beer at 08h00 in the morning in the middle of the Kaokoland. He earned himself a free one !

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/09220003b.jpg)

At Epupa falls, I was trying my best to take an arty shot of one of the pretty Himba girls at the river.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/09220011d.jpg)

MetalJockey posing for a photo next to a very pretty shop owner who stocked ice cold beer in her shop.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/09210008.jpg)

And then the Himba children - strange hair do's.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/09210007a.jpg)

My favourites are always these close-ups of the little kids !

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/24c.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/24d.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/AfricanFellows/60e.jpg)

That is it for now.

Come on, lets see yours !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: JonW on August 04, 2007, 02:41:46 pm
Great idea Nardus, and some cool pics there!

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Eisbein on August 04, 2007, 05:15:55 pm
Awesome !

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: JourneyMan on August 04, 2007, 07:00:04 pm
Nice post Nardus. :cool:

De Wildt Charity Run. Wild Dog Members giving freely towards Sport & Recreational for the local community.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a236/IWelshman/DSC02095.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a236/IWelshman/DSC02103.jpg)


(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/Plothond/WDTToyRun025a.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: JonW on August 04, 2007, 11:03:22 pm
Shy Lesotho herd boy

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k240/JonW_02/DSC00284.jpg)

KZN hunter with his dogs

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k240/JonW_02/DSC00771.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Kev on August 04, 2007, 11:48:44 pm
This thread has fantastic potential. Great idea! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: shark_za on August 05, 2007, 10:41:46 am
While my pics are mostly from bad cell phone cameras and wont make any book they did bring back a few memories.
I just browsed my post pics and pulled ones that had locals in them.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/shark_za/TheRock/DSC04737.jpg)
Enjoying the last of the papsak at the shabeen by the rock.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/shark_za/TheRock/DSC04738.jpg)
Chatting with the chief, this is were ideas like the sports kit came from.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/shark_za/DeWildt29July/treeboy.jpg)
In the tree - cool little guys following us mad bikers last week on School Trail.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/shark_za/Roof2006/DSC03258.jpg)
The best way down baboons pass in Lesotho.  (if you dont have a KDX!)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/shark_za/Roof2006/DSC03233.jpg)
Thaba Tseka DS rider
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Nardus on August 06, 2007, 08:31:05 am
Piele !!!

This is exactly what I had in mind. Keep them coming, there should be lots these in those trip folders !!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Trailrider on August 06, 2007, 01:03:14 pm
This is a nice thread  :)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Grunt on August 06, 2007, 02:27:04 pm
Piele !!!!

Lekker eastcape word for a piele post.... well done Nardus

Are you from PE ???
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Nardus on August 06, 2007, 04:21:27 pm
East London !!!!!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: SuperJuice on August 06, 2007, 04:29:45 pm
A recent trip to Groot Marico saw us stopping at a shop to get ice and some supplies, this guy was fascinated with my 250 and just had to sit on it (even if it was on the back of the bakkie) and made us take photos.  ;D

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i78/SuperJuice/DSCF0143800x600.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i78/SuperJuice/DSCF0140800x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Kat on August 06, 2007, 09:12:25 pm

I found this chap in Garies


(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1978/weskus2006058db8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Shot with Canon PowerShot A520 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+PowerShot+A520&make=Canon) at 2007-08-06
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: michnus on August 06, 2007, 09:48:42 pm
This weekend in Hogsback, this laaitie got OMO white when he gave the bike a good rev. The smile on his face afterwards, priceless.

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/181078279-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Oppad on August 07, 2007, 09:31:22 am
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: michnus on August 07, 2007, 10:54:01 am
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.

Why are you even looking at it that way? What's wrong in posting pics of the people that we meet and see on travels? We are not making fun of people, or degrading any one, or do you never interact with the people around you?
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: PoepolJack on August 07, 2007, 12:24:56 pm
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.

I think you are missing the the point here my friend. Go back to the beginning, skip the jail, don't collect R200 and read the opening of this thread carefully. We live in a beautiful country with beautiful people and with the most diversified cultures. Cant you see it??? This is a great thread and thank you for all the other positive feedback.

Piele Nardus!!!!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: mountainboy on August 07, 2007, 02:04:06 pm
I think its a brilliant idea

In the new SA, it's all important to recognise all cultures,recognise them and be to laugh at our dark past.

Like when Wes call me over to wash his bike - in exchange for some liquid payments  ;D. Its all in good spirit.

I find white ppl (no offence pls) are sometimes afraid to interact/comment about cultures cause they too afraid to offend. we nogal not that sensitive all the time

Juslaaik my broe -we different ek se, nah seriously lets ma laugh at our differences because in a nutshell:


WE LIVE IN ONE OF THE GREATEST COUNTRIES ON EARTH


Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: JourneyMan on August 07, 2007, 02:07:11 pm
Photo opportunity for the little ones near Loskop.

Must have been the Clown who attracted the kids! :biggrin:

(http://www.image-upload.net/files/5458/Loskop250906/IMG_0139.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: bmad on August 08, 2007, 07:31:42 am
Very cool thread Nardus  O0 Like Sharkie says, it's brings back plenty of memories

Roadside workshop in Lesotho, spectators:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/Memel/Kids.jpg)

Same spot:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/Memel/Elder.jpg)

Canarvon Hotel - GS Challenge 2005
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/P1010488.jpg)

Memel area:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/Locals.jpg)

The locals at De Wildt:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/9be3250c.jpg)

 ;D

Memel entertainment:  >:D >:D
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/Entertainment.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: shark_za on August 08, 2007, 07:42:23 am
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.

I dont think so, the guys who ride in Europe might have different locals to show us.
Its just every time I take photos of locals where I ride they are black!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Grootseun on August 08, 2007, 09:09:30 am
this is africa after all..chances are.. when taking a photo you will inevatibly have a black guy in it.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: bmad on August 08, 2007, 02:30:34 pm
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.

she is white!!! Trashed, but white >:D >:D

Memel entertainment:  >:D >:D
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/bmad_001/Entertainment.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Beemer Man (RIP) on August 08, 2007, 02:52:13 pm
Also in the Memel area, I just love this photo.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Nardus on August 08, 2007, 03:10:19 pm
This is great, but we want MORE !!!!

Awesome ! It is great to see what and who you see and interact with on these trips. It adds a bit of flavour to the trips and by sharing it, we also get a taste of that. Thanks.

Never mind the previous comment of somebody that obviously do not see himself as a fellow South African. Colonial thing - my ass !!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: LuckyStriker on August 08, 2007, 04:41:48 pm
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.
I can see why you asked what you asked <and I realise you didn't mean to stir>

I briefly considered asking if we are allowed to post pics of white people or if this thread was only about poor and 'uncivilised' natives...but then I realised people might mistake me for a racist.

Some of the pics posted here will be considered sad by some and those same pics will be seen as hillarious by others - at the end of the day they are just pics of things we see. No need to get angry or defensive <i'm talking to both the posters and the casual viewers here>
it is a little curious that except for bmad's one pic, all the rest depict locals as low-income black people - just an observation, I don't give a sh*t either way since I don't dwell on racial issues

<sorry, I just want to edit my post slightly. after re-reading it, it sonded a bit funny>
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: mountainboy on August 08, 2007, 04:43:24 pm
I may be looking for shite here but isn't this thread a bit Big-White-Bwana-in-Africa-lookee-at-all-the-curious-natives-in-the-hinterland-switch-my-Arai-for-a-pith-helmet kind of colonial thing? Just asking.

Nah - really don't think Oppad meant any offence. Just being a bit carefull, that's all.


Now keep those awesome pics coming!!

PS -can I post pics of locals on non-biking trips???
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: SGB on August 08, 2007, 10:24:18 pm
Guitarist providing entertainment
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/tjoenie/Roof%202006/DSC01132.jpg)

Conducting the choir
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/tjoenie/Roof%202006/DSC01105.jpg)

Spectators
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/tjoenie/Local/Nov060.jpg)

We employed this guy as a security guard, but my quad racing friends shared their courage with him, good party but useless guard - our stuff did not grow feet nonetheless....
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/tjoenie/Local/Nov071.jpg)

When the going gets tough - they can work too...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/tjoenie/Local/Nov063.jpg)

Another bit of "towing"
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/tjoenie/KTM/roof1.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: LuckyStriker on August 09, 2007, 01:54:10 am
Let's make no mistake about it (please flame me in the morning when I'm sober), I also thought that this thread was pretty fuc*ed up at first. What's with all the rich white dudes giving charity to the poor afros? (and all that know me will realise that I detest charity {too many Ayn Rand books?})
I particularly dislike the black kids waiting in line for handouts (I know I was not there and could not possibly understand the sentiment).

But I feel the need to add this pic of some kindly gentlemen who offered to look after our bikes in Luderitz. They asked for no money. They were merely concerned that we'd come away without bad experiences of their otherwise splendid town.

My hat is off to them. Even though we found even more secure parking I thank them for their diligence and graciousness.

Thanks Nam!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: LuckyStriker on August 09, 2007, 02:04:06 am
And I hasten to add

Thanks oom Giel and tannie Fien for making our trip extra special
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: letsgofishing on August 09, 2007, 08:44:06 am

I can see why you asked what you asked and I realise you didn't mean to stir

I briefly considered asking if we are allowed to post pics of white people or if this thread was only about poor and 'uncivilised' natives...but then I realised people might mistake me for a racist.

Some of the pics posted here will be considered sad by some and those same pics will be seen as hillarious by others - at the end of the day they are just pics of things we see. No need to get angry or defensive i'm talking to both the posters and the casual viewers here
it is a little curious that except for bmad's one pic, all the rest depict locals as low-income black people - just an observation, I don't give a sh*t either way since I don't dwell on racial issues

sorry, I just want to edit my post slightly. after re-reading it, it sonded a bit funny

Well I reckon that's because riding in off-the-beaten-track, remote areas, you're not too likely too find high income people of any colour, now are you?
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: michnus on August 09, 2007, 09:14:58 am
Quote
it is a little curious that except for bmad's one pic, all the rest depict locals as low-income black people


Only if you want to see it that way. That they have a lower income than you is true, I guarantee you they also have less debt than you, which makes you poorer than them, that does not make them less in my eyes, as I look through my Arai. :)
They might even feel offended by referring to as low-income blacks, they might have a better quality of life and feeling towards life than most city dwellers? Look at the pics again, see how many are smiling? They are just as curious about you and your bike.

Sit down and talk to the people on the next trip, your perception will for certainly change ;)

Keep it coming, it's a excellent thread. :thumright:
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Disselboom on August 09, 2007, 10:50:40 am
Some people say to be truly rich you have to be content with what you have,instead of yearning for that which you don't.I think there is a balance between contentment and ambition,though diffucult to achieve, where some truly happy people stay.After all, if everybody was just peachy with everything, we could've just stayed in the ape stage.A vast majority of people are content to dop their whole pay on Friday and suffer the rest of the week, because they have no awareness that things could be different.And it's mostly that awareness that differentiates most have nots from most haves.

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Beemer Man (RIP) on August 09, 2007, 11:28:40 am
it is a little curious that except for bmad's one pic, all the rest depict locals as low-income black people - just an observation, I don't give a sh*t either way since I don't dwell on racial issues.
 
I think Lucky Strker's comment is extremely bigoted, and is seriously questioning certainly my integrety, and he then makes a casual comment  about how he dosn't care either way, and does'nt dwell on Racist issues, bullshit to you Mr Lucky Striker!!! the reason why I love the photo I submitted is the absolute stark contrast between the two modes of transport, purely mechanical versus completely natural the way it's been for centuries, it in no way depicts the poor downtrodden plight of Blacks, and if you see it in that light SORRY FOR YOU!!,
I am sure most of the Forum members are as shocked with your implication as I am, for my 2c worth I think you are completely off sides.
Your only saving grace may be the fact you mention of your sobriety but as they say " In Vino Veritas"
" In wine the Truth"
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: shark_za on August 09, 2007, 12:23:54 pm
Easy now guys and gals, we all threw the ideas out there and general consensus is that this is not offensive or condescending in any manner.
Someone has to play devils advocate to get people to say what they feel.
Chill, point taken.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: brettp on August 09, 2007, 01:39:38 pm
To everyone that took the time and effort to submit thier pics - I salute you! To those that may have taken offence in terms of racial issues or social standings - I pity you cos you missed the entire point of this thread!

Its a fact of life that there will always be a multitude of races, there will always be those that have more or less than you do....and above all, there will always be those who are content with their "station in life".

So get off you bloody soap boxes, and enjoy this thread for what it is...a depiction of memory!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: LuckyStriker on August 09, 2007, 04:41:04 pm
I never implied that anyone on this thread are racist. Sorry if it appeared that way
I'm told my biggest failing is my tendency to be over-analytical and overly-sensitive. It's seems it has landed me in hot water today.
Please respect my right to have an opinion contrary to yours.

I think Lucky Strker's comment is extremely bigoted, and is seriously questioning certainly my integrety, and he then makes a casual comment  about how he dosn't care either way, and does'nt dwell on Racist issues, bullshit to you Mr Lucky Striker!!! the reason why I love the photo I submitted is the absolute stark contrast between the two modes of transport, purely mechanical versus completely natural the way it's been for centuries, it in no way depicts the poor downtrodden plight of Blacks, and if you see it in that light SORRY FOR YOU!!,
I am sure most of the Forum members are as shocked with your implication as I am, for my 2c worth I think you are completely off sides.
Your only saving grace may be the fact you mention of your sobriety but as they say " In Vino Veritas"
" In wine the Truth"

It's a pity you are so upset
I don't believe I attacked you personally on this thread so I'm a little surprised at your indignation. Ironically, I love your photo!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Welsh on August 09, 2007, 05:09:17 pm
Well it is national Womens Day, so Bitch Slaps are in  order I guess?


Welsh  ::) ::) ::)

Anti-wrinkle cream there may be, but anti-fat-bastard cream there is none.

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: SGB on August 09, 2007, 05:27:00 pm
The racial issue is up our noses all the time through the press and media, I am not surprised that it comes out here too.

I can honestly say that a place like Lesotho has changed my general thinking and attitude in some way, over the years.  I have been going there for ever, and have some friends there.  Wherever I have been, I have tried to shop where the locals shop, eat where they eat and hang out where they hang out.  This goes for America, Europe, Zambia, Namibia, Moz and Lesotho, etc etc.  One thing I have learnt, is that we always tend to want to change our situation and environment, but WE are not always prepared to change.  I regret not having taken enough pictures.  The ones I posted bring good memories, and that is all.  And they perfectly fit into a little bit of the bigger picture of who I am.  That's all.  Let us not allow any issues to kill the spirit of the thread.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: D7 on August 09, 2007, 07:55:25 pm
man...

SGB,  listen to him..

I get all riled up immediately with race.
that automatically distorts my perspective.

SGB - my fealings without the bitterness....

 O0
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: bmad on August 10, 2007, 10:39:25 am
The racial issue is up our noses all the time through the press and media, I am not surprised that it comes out here too.

I can honestly say that a place like Lesotho has changed my general thinking and attitude in some way, over the years.  I have been going there for ever, and have some friends there.  Wherever I have been, I have tried to shop where the locals shop, eat where they eat and hang out where they hang out.  This goes for America, Europe, Zambia, Namibia, Moz and Lesotho, etc etc.  One thing I have learnt, is that we always tend to want to change our situation and environment, but WE are not always prepared to change.  I regret not having taken enough pictures.  The ones I posted bring good memories, and that is all.  And they perfectly fit into a little bit of the bigger picture of who I am.  That's all.  Let us not allow any issues to kill the spirit of the thread.

Well spoken  :thumright:

Can we post some more pics please people!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: luke on August 11, 2007, 04:14:06 pm
Chill okes,
Most of these pics are awsome, the stuff good memories are made of, one thought, if you take pics on your regular routes, Dewildt etc, why not run a few prints and give them a copy or two when you pass that way again. Trust me, you think they smiled when you took it,,,,, you ain't seen nothing.
 I did it on way to Sodwana, when I took a copy a few months later, one of the kids in the picture had been killed in an accident, his folks didn't have a single picture to remember him, I went off the beaten track, followed some guys to the village and gave the print to his mom, had tea and left a very emotional family behind. I wasn't feeling to lekker either. Just an idea that worked for me.

cheers

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: SMD on August 17, 2007, 04:45:18 pm
On a recent trip to Lesotho, we stayed in a rural village one night and met a super bunch of friendly and kind people, here are there pics
(http://usera.imagecave.com/malcolmx/Lesotho/les035.JPG)
(http://usera.imagecave.com/malcolmx/Lesotho/les034.JPG)
(http://usera.imagecave.com/malcolmx/Lesotho/les025.JPG)
(http://usera.imagecave.com/malcolmx/Lesotho/IMGP7149.JPG)
(http://usera.imagecave.com/malcolmx/Lesotho/IMGP7161.JPG)
(http://usera.imagecave.com/malcolmx/Lesotho/IMGP7168.JPG)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Uiltjie on August 18, 2007, 07:49:44 am
My contribution
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Post by: LuckyStriker on August 20, 2007, 08:38:20 am
excellent pic Uiltjie - simply prefect!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: letsgofishing on August 20, 2007, 09:40:26 am
excellent pic Uiltjie - simply prefect!

+1  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Eisbein on August 20, 2007, 10:01:36 am
Yip, mr Uil - dit is 'n moerse cool foto.

W
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: buzzlightyear on August 20, 2007, 11:13:35 am
Uil, is jy seker dis jou foto?

Hier gesien (http://images.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://wwar.com/newsletter/images/2003/09/2003-09-26-5962.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.absolutearts.com/artsnews/2003/09/26/31399.html&h=99&w=150&sz=4&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=WHbebGW21ow2IM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnikki%2Brixon%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Uiltjie on August 20, 2007, 11:32:14 am
Nee, ek het nooit geclaim dis my werk nie!

Ek het eendag gesit en browse deur fotografiese uitstallings en hierdie foto het my so opgeval dat ek dit ge-copy het en gehou het.  Ek het dit tot op 'n stadium as desktop gebruik, net omdat dit so 'n spesiale foto is.

Jy sal sien dat die file naam Nikki Rixon is, dis die fotograaf.  As ek reg onthou, is sy 'n fotografiese lektor by die Kaapse Technicon.

Dit bly in my oë 'n baie besonderse foto!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: buzzlightyear on August 20, 2007, 11:40:02 am
Ok. Ek stem, dit is 'n mooi foto.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Uiltjie on August 20, 2007, 11:43:19 am
Ok. Ek stem, dit is 'n mooi foto.

Ek dink ek het nog 'n paar, sal gaan soek.

Nee wat, dis weer gestoor in een van daai  "moenie-worry-nie-ek-sal-dit-onthou" folders.  As ek weer daarop afkom, sal ek post.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: 1X on August 20, 2007, 01:26:25 pm
Het die outjie teegekom langs die oranje rivier. Hy gereken hy is 11 jaar oud. Toe ons hom vra of dit ooit reen in die wereld toe se hy, hy weet van drie keer wat hy kan onthou!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Mikedabike on August 20, 2007, 07:16:03 pm
awesome pic's that show the diversities of our beautiful country's many different peoples and their backgrounds and upbringing and finally that act as triggers to the memories good bad and other that come flooding back when they are looked at again and again and again and....................

oh and lets play nicely guys
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: KiLRoy on August 20, 2007, 08:33:10 pm
I love this thread and the comments it generates.  These are the issues we need to discuss and debate in SA.  Nothing wrong with both sides of the coin imho (even if the thread was started harmlessly).  Fact is, is Africa becoming a 'human zoo' for foreign (and local) travellers - and if so, are they allowed to take pictures.

Beemer Man, although I respect your comment about LS, I fail to see the connection between your pic and his response?

On the other hand, we can't claim to embrace the diversity of our continent's people, but would not allow a diverse view from forum members about this thread and how it is viewed.  Charity begins at home - even standing in a line...  Nardus I know you didn't mean to open a Pandora's box, but in a weird sense I find it refreshing and positive to touch on these issues while building this fine thread - well done to you sir; and with your permission, can we allow positive debate regarding these real issues without hijacking this thread?

The level of rhetoric and insight on this forum amazes me. 

My contribution - We found Piet Skiet - he said he needed a vacation after being 5years  unemployed due to restructuring, I couldn't agree more - hard work this unemployed thing....

Hein
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Nardus on August 21, 2007, 10:40:04 am
Thank you to all, I quite like the discussions happening on this site. Now we can see what colour the wilddoggers are !!!

Kilroy, you have summed it up well and let the pictures come and the views flow !

Gravelmad, is that some Lesotho Mountain Cabbage on top of that fuel drum - looks familiar and bring some with to the bash if there are any left !!!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Grondpad on August 21, 2007, 11:10:41 am
Pafuri Moz -  The sound echoing from a distance --------------SSSWWWEEEEEETSSSSSS!!!

(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4267/p1020558en5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6815/pafuriza7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Inhassoro Moz - This bloke depends on the generosity of visitors.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1701/p1020651ax6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Shebeen run, Inhassoro - My Brother and his new best friend :D
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/714/p1020687wr2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: bmad on August 23, 2007, 12:09:21 pm
Pafuri Moz -  The sound echoing from a distance --------------SSSWWWEEEEEETSSSSSS!!!
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6815/pafuriza7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Inhassoro Moz - This bloke depends on the generosity of visitors.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1701/p1020651ax6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Those eyes in the first pic - They tell a lot :(

I'm very curios on the second one, pray tell?
 
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Post by: Grondpad on August 23, 2007, 02:00:49 pm


Inhassoro Moz - This bloke depends on the generosity of visitors.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1701/p1020651ax6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



I'm very curios on the second one, pray tell?


[/quote]

He roams the town begging,  I felt so sorry for the bloke I gave him some $ and he bought food and off course cheap booz.   He talks like a smurf (non stop)
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Post by: Metaljockey on August 23, 2007, 09:54:29 pm
That looks like microcephaly.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Usurper on September 05, 2007, 03:53:46 pm
Here is an snippet from a review I posted, and thought that this bit does belong here:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i195/Demago/PIC-0041.jpg)
A fellow BMW rider, check the badge on the front fork. I not recognize the model but it may be a custom build. The locals came to look at the bikes; they were drooling over the BMW, but all our attempts to impress upon them that the KTM is the faster bike was met with a dismissive ??Ohh.. OK?. The chap with his BMW bicycle was eying my bike with a big smile and I told him ??but you also ride a BMW, his face quickly dropped and he said softly ??but, mine is a bit slow?? priceless.
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Post by: tok-tokkie on September 05, 2007, 06:27:56 pm
I have been inspired by this thread.  I intend doing a lot of touring in the future.  I intended taking photos of the countryside I see: now i will also try to document the locals I come across.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Tin-Tin on September 06, 2007, 07:26:16 pm
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/wimpie_2006/P1050571.jpg)
Met these boys on a trip threw Transkey thei loved our picnic.
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Post by: Nardus on October 19, 2007, 09:17:16 am
Hi All - Since the beginning of September a lot of Wilddoggers would have made a trip. This is a good time to add some pics of the people you have encountered !!!

As you know, we have been to Angola and now that MJ's ride report is almost done - eventually and after a lot of people have run out of patience - here are some of memorable ones of our trip. Enjoy !!

This young girl were met on the way to the Kunene, roaming around with her cattle all by herself.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/58.jpg)


On our arrival at Monte Negro at the Kunene River, we had a couple of cold ones with the local police. I just could not resist the temptation to test the power of such a big guy - it turns out that even after giving it my best, he still was not noticing me hanging onto his arm.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/70b.jpg)


Down at the river, we got some incredible footage of what life-forms hangs around at the Kunene !

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/106.jpg)


I just have to post these two family pictures of Michnus en MJ ...............

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/103a.jpg)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/91a.jpg)


Jose and Jose, our friends from Lubango. These good, friendly and loving people were supposed to be our enemies a couple of years back. What a privilledge to have met them and what blessing that they have survived !!!

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/328.jpg)


After entertaining us for the whole evening and after a lot of Ngola's, we got down to some serious reflections of the past and what could have been.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/339.jpg)


On the way back to Ruacana, we stopped at a couple of places. This pretty girl made us a very nice goat meat meal. Who would have thought it could actually taste good. We had some bad experiences on previous trips.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/374.jpg)


This was the shopkeeper.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/376.jpg)


And these were some of the youngsters who got exposed to the wonders of a digital camera.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/384.jpg)


This must be the most real cowboy in Africa, if not the world. At first he was reluctant, but MJ eventually got this awesome picture of him.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/380.jpg)


Fred Leask, from Ugie, sharing a gwaai with a local lady.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/371a.jpg)


At the next rest stop, Michnus befriended himself with another thirsty fellow and shared a last cold one.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/403.jpg)


I enjoyed Angola so much, I even got myself a shirt of which I am very proud. I never thought I would love another country more than my own, but I had no choice in this matter.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/Nardus950/Angola/353.jpg)

Cheers....., until a next time.

Love, because life is too short !
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: LuckyStriker on October 19, 2007, 10:00:46 am
I have new respect for this thread
and those pics are brilliant

PS. can I get a shirt like that at Edgars?
No? I'll just have to go to Angola then... 8)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: KiLRoy on October 19, 2007, 12:39:34 pm
Great one Nardus - see you in Hogsback

H
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Post by: michnus on October 19, 2007, 06:10:57 pm
Quote
I enjoyed Angola so much, I even got myself a shirt of which I am very proud. I never thought I would love another country more than my own, but I had no choice in this matter.


+10,000,000 ;D



Be-bliksem, Nardus, it's as good as a ride report. :headbang:



Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Welsh on October 19, 2007, 06:38:10 pm
You guys cheat, how can us mere mortals compete, gonna have to go talk to my Dog.

 
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: dustsucker on February 20, 2008, 05:12:24 pm
Handing out coulour in books, crayons and puzzles in Transkei on a beer stop. Swaerrie trekked it all the way in those saddle bags from CT...strong Katoem.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: dustsucker on February 21, 2008, 01:36:03 pm
Happy 'car guard' in De Rust....Number one is their drink.  2 bikes in background are two guys we met on their way to Namibia with a film crew. Third bike`s engine seized just ouside town.  Was about 40 deg Celsius that day.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Kamanya on February 29, 2008, 11:39:29 am
I did some charity work for some creche's. I went on my bike as it is a huge novelty and ice breaker. I got some great shots of the kids;

(http://kamanya.smugmug.com/photos/260116551_B3Cnk-L.jpg)

(http://kamanya.smugmug.com/photos/260116623_6PCCu-L.jpg)

(http://kamanya.smugmug.com/photos/260116930_JKzfu-L.jpg)

On my trip to the Kunene this one was taken by my mate Hannes;

(http://kamanya.smugmug.com/photos/260117614_8CoP6-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Jacko on February 29, 2008, 02:30:03 pm
That looks like microcephaly.

Is that what it's called?

When I was riding on the 800 GS launch in KZN in some remote, foresty area, I came across a chap that looked almost identical.

Is it a genetic mutation kind of thing?

The guy was quite surprised at this bike & rider (admitted, with out Darth Vader suits we do not exactly epitomise hippie culture  ;D), but when I waved (I alwas do) his face lit up. I will never forget that instant. It was almost haunting.

Then I found out I took a wrong turnoff 400 m further, turned around and rode past him again. Was he confused! But I waved anyway.

I sincerely feel sorry for the bloke. And I don't think he's the most popular guy in the village either, since everyone was walking in groups - except him, all on his ace.

Personally I try and engage locals wherever I go. That's just my personality. In the end we're all humans.

"Crawling on the planet's face
are insects called the human race.
Lost in time... and lost in space".

Rocky Horror Picture Show
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Uiltjie on March 02, 2008, 07:45:39 am
Kamaya, look at yourself in this picture...in fact, look at the reflection in all their eyes in your pics!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Operator on March 02, 2008, 09:22:13 am
Kamaya, look at yourself in this picture...in fact, look at the reflection in all their eyes in your pics!

10/10 for your observation Uil !! ;)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Uiltjie on March 02, 2008, 05:19:24 pm
Kamaya, look at yourself in this picture...in fact, look at the reflection in all their eyes in your pics!

10/10 for your observation Uil !! ;)

Thanx, maar ek was nugter............... ;D
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Nardus on March 04, 2008, 04:37:20 pm
Kamanya and Dustsucker, thanks, some lekker pictures !!!

Uiltjie, I hope you do not find any lip or tongue marks on some of our pics !!!??
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: tok-tokkie on March 04, 2008, 05:44:37 pm
Slave descendants.  Taken in Tesselaarsdal which is a community founded by a local farmer for his freed slaves.  It was quite usual for a slave owner to father children with his female slaves so there may be some of his benevolent genes here.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/2261334182_7ea80b7d00_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: logie on March 07, 2008, 03:04:16 pm
A young shepherd in Lesotho with a homemade guitar.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Groenie on March 12, 2008, 10:59:58 am
We came across this dude on the way up Sani. He just stood there and stared at us. Weird!

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1158.jpg)

And when we stopped for our first beer on the Sunday, this cute youngster decided he'll be D7's mechanic for the morning. He reminded me of my 2 sons, same age and just as cute.

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1174.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1176.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1177.jpg)

Then his mom wanted to try out the bike for size. Her legs are too short and she had to be helped on, but check the smile.

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1113.jpg)

And one of the local beer wagons

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1112.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: 1X on March 12, 2008, 12:43:08 pm

And one of the local beer wagons

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1112.jpg)

Groenie die pick laat my aan die song dink!

Oooooo die DONKIE is n wonderlike ding.......................................!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Maverick on March 15, 2008, 08:57:47 pm
Day 8 of our Kaokoland trip these boys was playing around the area of our bikes

(http://dirklottering.smugmug.com/photos/222145339_MBoEK-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Kev on March 19, 2008, 10:55:01 pm
We came across this dude on the way up Sani. He just stood there and stared at us. Weird!

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa161/gixrepsold/Lesotho/sm_1158.jpg)

Maybe he was being polite, and was waiting for you to say hello, and invite him over for a chat? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Cane Rat on March 24, 2008, 07:45:01 pm
Pic 1: Somewhere between Weenen and Colenso.
Pic 2: Local selling his walking sticks in Winterton. He insisted I take his pic. ???
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: michnus on August 12, 2008, 07:39:01 pm
(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/350471642_MncHJ-M.jpg)

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/350471798_auUcu-M.jpg)

(http://www.smugmug.com/photos/350471518_kKgV8-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 29, 2008, 11:50:13 pm
Michnus, Nardus, MJ, that Angolan ride report and these pics really are awesome. I can see it must have been a life changing experience to do that trip. You always tend to find the most amazing people on trips like that. RESPECT!  :thumleft:


If we stopped for a moment a bit more often and took notice of those around us, we would have much richer lives.


Not sure if this applies (its in Perú), but here is a delightful young lady selling fried casava at a toll gate near La Oroya, Peru, at 3600m.
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/girlr1.jpg)


Dogs in the high mountains love to chase cars and especially bikes.
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/early0001.jpg)


´n Baie bly sissie without a care in a the world.
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/TingoMaria0004.jpg)


Working hard in the poorer side of Lima
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/people7.jpg)


Heart breaking stuff, sometimes dogs are better off than people in this place.
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/people5.jpg)


Still, its important to make time for a nice Sunday Afternoon Stroll
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/people6.jpg)


I think some of the cars here are worse off than in Africa
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/people8.jpg)


This one has such character I had to include it
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/people9.jpg)


This post wouldnt be right without a pic of our charge hand, "Spanner" back home. He looks after our herd of Nguni´s. He´s happy in this pic because he was given some money for his cell phone.  Before you politically persuaded folk say anything, Spanner is his first name in his ID book, and he´s proud of it. I think thats great.
(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll338/Bluebull2007/spanner1.jpg)



Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Matroos (aka JJred) on August 30, 2008, 12:42:11 am
Hey BB very interesting pics, but I think spanner and his pride steels the show hands down.

Nice one!!!
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: SandMan on August 30, 2008, 06:44:54 pm
Swakopmund.......5 bucks a pic.
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 29, 2008, 10:14:17 am
2008 GS Challenge - Orange Day 3

We stopped at a shibeen in Macene and had a couple, and then played a game of soccer. The kids got a sweet everytime they could score a goal.

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008142.jpg)

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008148.jpg)

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: bmad on September 29, 2008, 10:31:39 am
2008 GS Challenge - Orange Day 3

We stopped at a shibeen in Macene and had a couple, and then played a game of soccer. The kids got a sweet everytime they could score a goal.

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008142.jpg)

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008148.jpg)



Nice one Sharkie  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Rolf on September 29, 2008, 01:58:37 pm
Taken en route to the Katse dam in Lesotho over the easter weekend earlier this year. Had to be the friendliest stranger I have ever met.
(http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp353/vilaishima/DSC07155.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Skinny on September 29, 2008, 04:41:25 pm
Mariental, Namibia - OppiKoppi (October 2006)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/skinny400/Namib346.jpg)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/skinny400/Namib360.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Lito on September 29, 2008, 04:45:13 pm
this boy has STRIKER written all over him! What talent - check out his form!

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008142.jpg)
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 29, 2008, 05:07:45 pm
this boy has STRIKER written all over him! What talent - check out his form!


Unfortunatly I cut this one off a bit, I'll tell you something, these boys can KICK !!! - I wonder how much "talent" slips through the cracks in these very rural areas !

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008140.jpg)

Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: Lito on September 29, 2008, 05:22:22 pm
Incredible.... thanks for sharing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Its not all about the bikes !
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 30, 2008, 10:05:39 am
And this was also at the same shabeen in Macene - This little girl was so pretty just sitting there.
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n459/Sharkie_123/GS%20Challenge%20-%202008/GSChallenge2008129.jpg)