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Title: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 02:08:16 pm
What do you guys think?

I'm collecting my Bullet 500 EFI next week to expand my travels!

Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: ŽŠerrie on February 21, 2012, 02:11:57 pm
 :happy1:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 03:08:31 pm
baie geluk, ek is "military green" van jaloesie.

het self planne om een aan te skaf as die nommers begin te klop.

mag hy vreugde bring

ek is mal mal mal oor daai bikes.

om hulle te ry is soos n vakansie in die wildtuin, dit laat jou afslek tot op die tempo van die omgewing.

die idee van coolness terwyl mens daai bikes ry laat dit vir jou voel asof die hele wereld stadiger draai....en net kyk hoe mooi die bike is, en hoe breed jou smile is.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: JK on February 21, 2012, 03:10:26 pm
Waar in die Kaap koop julle hierdie ouens ?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 03:11:50 pm
ons kaapse dealer is Thruxton Motorcycles in Somerset Wes
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:17:39 pm
Dankie Lem

Ek sien self uit.!

Ek wil dit inkorpereer met merctravels.com, juis omdat dit 'n 'coolness' faktor het, en net iets anders is.
Ek beplan voorlopig, ja ek weet dis nog lank, om in 2018 'n Trans African toer te doen vir 'n jaar. Met die Enfield. Ek wil dit graag doen voor dit nog meer van 'n 'mode' is as wat dit reeds is.

Ek is daagliks met Garth van thruxton op die foon en epos, en ek kan julle een ding se, diens soos die het ek nie van BMW of KTM gekry nie. Die ouens gaan uit hul pad om hulpvaardig te wees en hulle werkswinkel is skoongenoeg om n restaurant te wees.

Hou die spasie dop vir foto's

Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on February 21, 2012, 03:27:52 pm
Wat kos hulle nuut?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:29:06 pm
R47 000 vir die gewones en R49 000 vir die Military green, maar hulle is VER vooruit bespreek... ek wou nie wag vir laas genoemde nie
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Kobus on February 21, 2012, 03:31:06 pm
some pics to drool on please.

Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on February 21, 2012, 03:36:38 pm
R47 000 vir die gewones en R49 000 vir die Military green, maar hulle is VER vooruit bespreek... ek wou nie wag vir laas genoemde nie
R2000 dus meer vir n spesifieke paintjob?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:38:31 pm
Kobus

Here are some pics i the mean time

I will post mine when i Collect!

The Military one

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/Royal_Enfield_19XX_2.jpg)

Trial kit... Yummie!!!

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/scrambler_kit_lg.jpg)

Classic Black

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/royal_enfield_bullet_india_55_sm.jpg)

Not a cruiser not a DS, not a speedbike

This was infact an ALL Purpose bike

Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:39:55 pm
ChrisL

Lyk so, dis net die groen een en die Chrome een wat bietjie duurder is. Die Military een is Matt verf.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Stofdonkie on February 21, 2012, 03:41:20 pm
Jy gaan lekker ry met daai bike.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: WabbitKiLR on February 21, 2012, 03:42:11 pm
I dig the look of these bikes. Really neat, reliable old thumpers :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 03:42:33 pm
wat die handelaar nice maak, is dis 'n proper bike shop, nie 'n donnerse boutique met skylites, glasportale en winkelpoppe nie.

dit word gerun deur twee broers, wat ou scruffy engelsman bikers in vel en been is. Garth het sy eie Truimph Bonneville verkoop om die winkel mee te begin.

dit lyk so skoon soos 'n restaurant daar, want hulle het planne om n coffee shop in die winkel oop te maak.

Garth is ook 'n freelance paramedic, so hys nie altyd by die winkel nie.
 
hulle gaan my uithelp vir my troue se fotos, op my engagement shoot en op die troudag met 'n Bullet 500.

dis 'n anderse tipe bike, een wat verskeie tipes kopers lok, maar geen stigma aan het nie. hulle jongste koper is 21, en hul oudste onlangse koper is 67.

net jammer dit klink vir my of die pryse van die bikes bietjie gestyg het.

Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on February 21, 2012, 03:45:52 pm
Ooooooooooo bliksem ma daai kezorst op die trail model gaan n ou se binneboud brand :deal: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: TVB on February 21, 2012, 03:46:36 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:48:57 pm
Dankie Stofdonkie

Julle kan nog BAIE RR sien op WD en merctravels. ek kan nou net nie meer wag vir die bike nie!

Lem

Ek sal beslis by so 'n koffie winkel iets gaan drink.
Hulle is besig om die plek oor te doen, en dis iets heeltemal anders, elke liewe stukkie gereedskap het sy plek.
Die mense is baie gaaf, en eerlik, daar word nie doekies omgedraai nie, en hulle ken hul produk. Dit gee my AL die rede in die wereld om die fiets te koop, omdat ek weet daar gaan baie goeie verhoudings en 'aftermarket' diens vanaf kom.

Ek dink op 23 maak dit my dalk die 2de jongste eienaar, maar soos jy se, almal kan die fiets waardeer, van my af tot verby my pa se ouderdom, en alles tussen in.

Ek sien regtig uit om 'n pad vorentoe te stap met Garth en Adrian, en hoop om jou ook gou in die RE 'scene' te sien.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 03:49:54 pm
ek het laasweek op facebook die Royal Enfield Tour of Rajastan gevolg.

moenie die goed onderskat nie, hulle kan nogal plekke gaan met daai kort vurkies
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Diesel & Dust on February 21, 2012, 03:52:01 pm
Donner, dis mooi :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:52:58 pm
LEM

Dis my hele punt. Ek gebruik 'n 1982 Diesel mercedes, en dan een van die dae die RE vir AL my travels, en dit bestaan meesal uit grondpaaie uit.

Ek dink meeste masjiene is in staat om BAIE dinge te verrig, maar daar moet motivering van die drywer se kant af kom. Ek kan miskien nie orals gaan waar 'n 990 of 1200gs kan nie, maar ek sal wel ander plekke sien
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Crossed-up on February 21, 2012, 03:53:18 pm
Cool bikes!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on February 21, 2012, 03:53:49 pm
Lyk of daar n happy button is? :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:55:52 pm
Chris

Happy Button EN Mikuni Fuel injection!

Geen meer rof idle en choke met punte en dinge nie

Ek dink ook enige DS bike MOET 'n kickstarter he, vir ingeval van nood.
Jy weet nooit wat gebeur langs die pad as jy solo is nie
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
dappermuis, dalk het ek die kat aan die gat beet, dalk was jy die een van wie Garth gepraat het as "jong koper"

toe ek onlangs deur Franschoek gery op n sondagoggend, en ek moet se, om so 14 Enfields ingeryg te sien staan is nogal baie mooi. dis n groot trekpleister vir my, en my verloofde like ook die idee, en is net so mal oor die gentleman's bikes.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Diesel & Dust on February 21, 2012, 03:57:10 pm
wat die handelaar nice maak, is dis 'n proper bike shop, nie 'n donnerse boutique met skylites, glasportale en winkelpoppe nie.
 
dit lyk so skoon soos 'n restaurant daar, want hulle het planne om n coffee shop in die winkel oop te maak.


Dis funny :ricky:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 03:57:36 pm
Lem

Laat weet as jy nog 'n 'trou fiets' nodig het.

Jinne, die outjies is moerse foto genies
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 03:58:42 pm
LEM

Dis my hele punt. Ek gebruik 'n 1982 Diesel mercedes, en dan een van die dae die RE vir AL my travels, en dit bestaan meesal uit grondpaaie uit.

Ek dink meeste masjiene is in staat om BAIE dinge te verrig, maar daar moet motivering van die drywer se kant af kom. Ek kan miskien nie orals gaan waar 'n 990 of 1200gs kan nie, maar ek sal wel ander plekke sien

wel, 'n riding buddy van my het onlangs sy KLR verkoop, omdat hy te min met hom by grondpad ry uitgekom het,  na sy sin. toe kry hy sy military green Enfield so ongeveer twee weke gelede. Nou commute hy daagliks tussen Paarl en Stellenbosch in styl. Dalk het jy hom al ontmoet, Deon Blaauw.  
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Stofdonkie on February 21, 2012, 04:03:32 pm
Smaak my Old School is besig om vinnig baie cool te word.


Old's Cool   :mwink:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 21, 2012, 04:10:10 pm
Smaak my Old School is besig om vinnig baie cool te word.


Old's Cool   :mwink:

Slow...is the new fast
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Boerie on February 21, 2012, 08:21:58 pm
sover ek dit het wil mother hier op die forum syne verkoop. ek eye baie daai RE in wekker straat
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Africanus on February 21, 2012, 09:25:14 pm
Waars daai shoppie in S-Wes presies?


Die goed laat my dink aan ou 303's, carbon steel Joseph Rogers knipmesse en daai Land Rovers wat se ligte so bymekaar staan.

 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 09:40:19 pm
Just not land rovers.. Please!

The shop is in Somerset business park, right next to the N2, close to a train bridge? Sorry I do not know the exact address.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: landieman on February 21, 2012, 10:02:42 pm
stem saam!donners mooi
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: dirtWarp on February 21, 2012, 10:09:14 pm
Ek het een.
Myne is die ouer motor met aparte ratkas.. hy's kuk stadig. 90KM/h max.

Maar mens behoort 'n sleepwa te trek teen 90km/h ook. Die bike het oraait torque.

Ek moes maar 'n Husaberg 550 koop.. anders sou my tottie gekrimp het met tyd  :eek7:

Mense neem foto's terwyl ek ry.. hulle shmaak hom  :3some:
Nuwe motor:
(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91786.0;attach=179521;image)
Ou motor is mooier:
(http://www.hoohoohoblin.com/RoyalEnfieldPictures/IMG_2068.jpg)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 10:17:24 pm
Dirtwarp, my vorige bike was ook 'n 'berg FC550, daai ding is iets anders!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: dirtWarp on February 21, 2012, 10:18:39 pm
Dirtwarp, my vorige bike was ook 'n 'berg FC550, daai ding is iets anders!
Het hy jou totter langer gemaak?  8)

Hulle is mal bikes daai. Ou Runner het 'n FE650 gery so ruk terug; 176KM/h op GPS, dans daar nog plenty krag en throttle oor in 6de.
Hy reken jou oee traan agter jou goggles  :ricky:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 21, 2012, 10:24:51 pm
Elke keer as ek hom gestart het! Daai is 'n baie mean bike, jy sal nie spyt wees nie. As jy weet wat jy doen, kan jy deur al 6 ratte wheelie, sonder clutch. Ek wou DS build gedoen het met hom. Ekt ook een keer 600km trip gedoen in 2 dae, maar die gearing moes vernader word, want die groot sprocket teen 80 het my klaar gemaak. Die seat is ook nie juis comfy nie. MAAR seker die enigste mx bike wat hom sal kan vang is CR/KX 500 NIKS anders nie.  'N vriend met 'n 300ktm en 'n ander met CRF450 het baie berg stof geeet
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: dirtWarp on February 21, 2012, 10:32:16 pm
 :thumleft:
Ja ek moet hom ook nog langer rat, die ding wil net wheelie die heeltyd, dis awesome  :drif:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: BlueBull2007 on February 22, 2012, 06:41:52 am
Lekker Dapper Muis!! :thumleft:

Let see some pics of the bike and your mods if you can please.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Pistonpete on February 22, 2012, 07:28:25 am
Lovely.. :drif:
Well done for taking that big leap!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: letsgofishing on February 22, 2012, 07:47:12 am
Nice one  :thumleft:
Looking forward to your 1st ride report....
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Diesel & Dust on February 22, 2012, 07:49:30 am
Ek dink "weet" my bike is nou in die mark - Ek like die ding bedonnerd :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 22, 2012, 07:49:56 am
Jip,  the 'berg can do 180 GPS...

Thanks Pistinpete, and let's go fishing.

I will post asap, counting the days to delivery!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: RobC on February 22, 2012, 08:11:27 am
Almost 50 Grand! Wow they must have a huge profit margin on these bikes then. Love to have one  :thumleft: but not at that price.  :'(
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Diesel & Dust on February 22, 2012, 08:22:52 am
What about passengers?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: dirtWarp on February 22, 2012, 08:30:20 am
What about passengers?
They lift rather nicely, if you have a pillion seat.

P.S. the newer motors can cruise @ 120km/h, no problem
Much smoother  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 22, 2012, 08:35:33 am
You get a removable Pillion seat with the bike.

RobC, 50k is a lot of money, but what other NEW  bike can you get for that price? This is a lot of bike for your money, or that is my opinion in any case.
The price is also regulated by the importer.

You can for 50k buy a secondhand 950 adv, with 50000km on the clock. BUT, the Royal Enfield is still so much different?
Plus I will be owning a legendary bike!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Africanus on February 22, 2012, 10:05:55 am
Just not land rovers.. Please!

The shop is in Somerset business park, right next to the N2, close to a train bridge? Sorry I do not know the exact address.

Thanks, I now know where that place is. I'll pop in to have a sqwizz. Good luck to them. Strange position to get a coffe shop going.

That bike needs leather saddlebags with a mounted Browning.
 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Diesel & Dust on February 22, 2012, 10:59:47 am
Is dit dieselfde as hierdie? Of is dit nuwes?

http://capetown-westerncape.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-motorcycles-scooters-Original-Royal-Enfields-built-how-you-want-it-W0QQAdIdZ344801569
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 22, 2012, 11:01:43 am
Is dit dieselfde as hierdie? Of is dit nuwes?

http://capetown-westerncape.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-motorcycles-scooters-Original-Royal-Enfields-built-how-you-want-it-W0QQAdIdZ344801569

Die bogenoemde is die original 60's modelle.

Ek koop 'n basies 2012 model met EFI.

Die ou waarvan jy praat bou die goed oor, maar sommige mense reken die 60's modelle was gemors, ander reken die nuwes is... Ons sal maar meot wag en sien...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Diesel & Dust on February 22, 2012, 11:05:21 am
Is dit dieselfde as hierdie? Of is dit nuwes?

http://capetown-westerncape.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-motorcycles-scooters-Original-Royal-Enfields-built-how-you-want-it-W0QQAdIdZ344801569

Die bogenoemde is die original 60's modelle.

Ek koop 'n basies 2012 model met EFI.

Die ou waarvan jy praat bou die goed oor, maar sommige mense reken die 60's modelle was gemors, ander reken die nuwes is... Ons sal maar meot wag en sien...

Dankie - ek is gehoek :biggrin:

My garage moet as volg wees - Honda XL / XR 500 en n 2012 Royal Enfield
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 22, 2012, 11:06:31 am

Dankie - ek is gehoek :biggrin:

My garage moet as volg wees - Honda XL / XR 500 en n 2012 Royal Enfield
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Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: kalahariben on February 23, 2012, 02:34:31 pm
...ek dink die Enfield moet hierdie jaar se Parys De Aar toer meemaak as opwarming vir die trans-Afrika trippie :-)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 23, 2012, 02:35:44 pm
Ben, ek dink ook so!
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Post by: Pistonpete on February 23, 2012, 02:37:30 pm
Tricky tyre choices?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 23, 2012, 02:39:21 pm
Nothing but Michelin T63
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Post by: Pistonpete on February 23, 2012, 02:40:14 pm
What sizes?
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Post by: DapperMuis on February 23, 2012, 02:44:05 pm
110 90 18 rear

90 90 18 front

Have you got?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Pistonpete on February 23, 2012, 02:49:38 pm
110 90 18 rear Mitas C04 Intermediate to Soft Terrain

90 90 18 front    xxx Change to a 21' or 19' front :)

Have you got?


Mission almost impossible
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 23, 2012, 03:00:36 pm
What will happen if i Run 110 infront as well? My brother's bike has same size tire on both tires.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: bmad on February 24, 2012, 02:24:08 pm
Just as a matter of interest, i have been travelling to India and back for a while for work.

Plenty of Royal Enfields there. What i love the most is that the city is massive and there are a ton of bikes around. But you will be working down the road and you will hear the thumper coming along. The sound of that RE is just so nice to hear.

You can pick up a brand new bullet 350 for around R12 500.00 and the top of the range 500 for around R20 000.00.
That is from the dealer in Mumbai.

Amazing. I have been chatting to the dealer there to get me some of the separate seats (Pillion that mounts on the rear bumper and seat)  so i can fit to my panther. I need to take back my measurements next visit to see if it will be possible, but don't see a problem.

Looking forward to pics of your bike.

Some RE's in Mumbai...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: 2phat on February 27, 2012, 09:16:55 pm
Dapper Muis
Jy moet die fred aan die gang hou as jy fiets bekom hebt - eks baie geinterreseerd ja?!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 27, 2012, 09:20:25 pm
2 phat. Maak so.. Dit sal seker die week wees! Sal almal op hoogte hou! Ek is baie bly dat daar nog net goeie en positiewe teruvoer gekom het.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: KaTooMatt on February 28, 2012, 11:21:58 am
Saw the most beautiful Enfields with Sidecars this weekend at Broadacres, The riders were nowhere to be seen so no further info but looking at that rig it makes a lot more sense than a Ural.

My kids waned to know when the Katoom was going to get a side car.  :o
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 28, 2012, 03:33:19 pm
Guess what I got today????

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/IMG00578-20120228-1428.jpg)

Thank you Garth and Adrian! your service is above excellent!

Stopped to get a cold drink about 10km from the shop, and had a group of people interested in the bike.

This was the most memorable 80km of my life, and the start of a life journey with Royal Enfield and Thruxton MC Sommerset Wes

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Post by: the_wes on February 28, 2012, 03:45:44 pm
awesome awesome awesome  :thumleft:

is that the bullet 500?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 28, 2012, 03:47:06 pm
That is exactly it the EFI model
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Stofdonkie on February 28, 2012, 03:48:39 pm
Nice!  :thumleft:


Jy gaan seker môreoggend vroeg in die garage wees om hom môre te sę  ...  :mwink:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 28, 2012, 03:49:51 pm
That is exactly it the EFI model

rad, i didn't know they brought in the bullet, I thought they just did the "classic" line (or whatever it's called)

what did it cost and how does it go?  :mwink:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 28, 2012, 03:51:43 pm
Stofdonkie

Ek probeer 'n plan maak om hom in my sitkamer te kry... ek slaap vanaand langs hom!

Wes

goes lekker, typical single cylinder has lekker torque.

new 45k

I think it is a lot of (new) bang for your buck, plus it has a very big appeal factor.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Kobus on February 28, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
Damn.

Nice...... lovely.

Very confused coming here after just reading about M's new HP2.  
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 28, 2012, 03:53:12 pm
wow Dappermuis

baie geluk!!

sy is pragtig. en die black & Ivory doen dit!!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 28, 2012, 03:55:04 pm
Stofdonkie

Ek probeer 'n plan maak om hom in my sitkamer te kry... ek slaap vanaand langs hom!

Wes

goes lekker, typical single cylinder has lekker torque.

new 45k

I think it is a lot of (new) bang for your buck, plus it has a very big appeal factor.

nice man, thanks for the info. you planning to customise it at all?  :deal:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 28, 2012, 03:57:05 pm
I like the Standard look.

But will like a screen up front, (small) and lekker saddle bags, like big bags etc, not leather.

I am also considering fitting DS tires for mmmm expiditions....
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: TheAnt on February 28, 2012, 04:33:20 pm
Congrats man! Sy is FLIPPIN STUNNING!  :ricky:

One Q: How do you clean and lube the chain? As far as I see it is between the zorst and wheel?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Pistonpete on February 28, 2012, 04:42:57 pm
Schweet! :drif:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 28, 2012, 05:26:02 pm
Congrats man! Sy is FLIPPIN STUNNING!  :ricky:

One Q: How do you clean and lube the chain? As far as I see it is between the zorst and wheel?

no problem, hy sit an die linkerkant, en daars net een exhaust, regs
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Kobus on February 28, 2012, 06:11:38 pm

you planning to customise it at all?  :deal:

Typical  >:D

Seriously though Wes, what would you consider doing?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 28, 2012, 06:28:53 pm

you planning to customise it at all?  :deal:

Typical  >:D

Seriously though Wes, what would you consider doing?

hehehehe

well, uhm, here's 2 shots of THE SAME enfield bullet (they customised it twice)  :mwink:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Pistonpete on February 28, 2012, 06:32:09 pm
Is the bike metric or imperial?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 28, 2012, 06:38:26 pm
Kobus - the RE is stunning as is, but you could do a nice nip and tuck without going extreme: smaller bullet indicators, small tail light, stripping those fork cover tubes off, smaller headlight mounting brackets, cafe racer bars and rear set pegs OR a more extreme "scrambler" bar, bar end or dropped mirrors, solo seat conversion, trim the fenders a bit, exhaust wrap, maybe a different end can, airbox conversion, headlight grill - all stuff that'll just tidy the bike up a bit...

BUT as I said, the bike is stunning as is  :thumleft: that's all just nitpicky stuff - you asked, I told  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Skipskop on February 28, 2012, 07:08:28 pm
Dit lyk nou flippen naais. Mmm ,ek het nog my leerbaaitjie en leer gloves wat ek met my eerste bike gekoop het on 1970,ek skiem ek sal nogal cool lyk op daai bike ;-)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: SchalkL on February 28, 2012, 07:22:15 pm
Congrats  :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on February 28, 2012, 09:41:59 pm
Kobus - the RE is stunning as is, but you could do a nice nip and tuck without going extreme: smaller bullet indicators, small tail light, stripping those fork cover tubes off, smaller headlight mounting brackets, cafe racer bars and rear set pegs OR a more extreme "scrambler" bar, bar end or dropped mirrors, solo seat conversion, trim the fenders a bit, exhaust wrap, maybe a different end can, airbox conversion, headlight grill - all stuff that'll just tidy the bike up a bit...

BUT as I said, the bike is stunning as is  :thumleft: that's all just nitpicky stuff - you asked, I told  :imaposer:

Wes, jy kry hom in Cafe racer model oorsee... net noggie hier nie.maar ek glo hy sal kom  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 28, 2012, 09:46:04 pm
Hy kom reeds met solo seat, en pillion seat bout gou gou af/op. Ek stem met miskien biejtjie 'minor' tweaks, maar die een moet vir nou net so bly. Verseker 'n lekker stel saddle bags! En dan, as dit moontlik is 'n paar Michelin T63. Ek sou ook minor goed gelike het soos: daytime running lights, in die vorm van indicators wat saam met die ligte aan kom.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 28, 2012, 09:49:51 pm
Pistonpete

Very good question

Bike is both metric and imperial, so I was told, and the supplied tools are both metric and imperial. I guess I have to visit a tool shop to stock up on metric tools...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Liz on February 29, 2012, 07:07:46 am
Wow Dappermuis - she's a beaut!  Enjoy!!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: letsgofishing on February 29, 2012, 08:58:10 am
VERY nice DM - congrats and enjoy...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 29, 2012, 09:05:32 am
Hy kom reeds met solo seat, en pillion seat bout gou gou af/op.

Lekker  :thumleft:

Regarding the tyres, I'm considering Pirelli MT 90/60s for my Kawa, or Heidi K60s... I think the T63 might be too aggressive. What are the wheel sizes?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 29, 2012, 09:09:53 am
Front is 90 90 19 while rear is 120 80 18.. Ideal for those T63..
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 29, 2012, 09:11:15 am
19/18 lekker  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: letsgofishing on February 29, 2012, 09:23:52 am
The American website has 3 bolt on kits for the Bullet - Cafe, Continental & Trials...
I think the Conti is quite yummy...
Not sure about that 'zorst on the Trials though...

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/other%20bikes/REcafe.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/other%20bikes/REcontinental.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/other%20bikes/REtrials.jpg)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on February 29, 2012, 09:25:31 am
The trial zorst is beauty!

Maybe not for a pillion though.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on February 29, 2012, 09:27:27 am
that scrambler kit looks a lot like this bike. It's Fred from Blitz Motorcycles in France's Enfield, that he customised quite some time ago...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Highlander on February 29, 2012, 12:42:45 pm
Lekker fiets :thumleft:

Het noudie dag hier iewers anderkant ook gepost. Het so bike vir 2 weke laas jaar gery in Nepal in die berge. Baie rowwe paaie gery maar stadig, en die bike het dit gevat, maar moes elke aand bietjie spanners op die ding neerlę om boute vas te maak. Die een wat ek gehad het was baie laag op kilos maar het olie nodig gehad elke aand.

Moet ook nie te veel worry as jy nie petrol het nie, gooi maar sommer enigiets anders ook in, dit werk selfs vir die fuel injection bikes :ricky:

Verder baie betroubaar en klink absoluut befork !!

(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/yellowfever100/2011%20Nepal/374-Nepal-D90.jpg)

(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/yellowfever100/2011%20Nepal/592-Nepal-D90.jpg)

(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/yellowfever100/2011%20Nepal/654-Nepal-D90.jpg)

Probeer nog werk aan n ride report, maar die lewe bietjie besig, kom nie nastenby daarby uit nie :-\
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on March 01, 2012, 09:07:26 am
Took the Enfield out to work this morning.. NOTHING like the sound of an Enflield before work!!!!!

Cant wait for the 'break' in period and the first service to be over and done with, it feels as if i am restraint with the 500km mark.
The RE needs to be set free, after the service, and stretch it's legs.


Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Lem on March 01, 2012, 09:11:51 am
kollega van my broer in Johannesburg en sy voru het laasjaar in Junievakansie 'n 4000km roundtrip gery... met hulle Enfield en Sidecar.

dink dit moet nogal awesome wees.

dink mens gaan meer met mense gesels by garages en Wimpys as wat jy op die pad gaan wees.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on March 01, 2012, 09:12:59 am
Lem

So waar.

Mense like die fiets, en klomp ouens staan oral nader om te kyk.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Phacochoerus on March 01, 2012, 09:51:08 am
What do you guys think?

I'm collecting my Bullet 500 EFI next week to expand my travels!


Here is a photo of my RE used offroad on non technical roads around Knysna ( Prince Alfred Pass, Seven Passes road to George and others.

It has bee reshod with Michelin Siracs which improve the handling and grip unbeliveably. 6000 K's not one problem
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Phacochoerus on March 01, 2012, 02:42:57 pm
What about passengers?
They lift rather nicely, if you have a pillion seat.

P.S. the newer motors can cruise @ 120km/h, no problem
Much smoother  :thumleft:
The speedo is about 15kph fast and the bike is happy at 90/95 kph one or two up.
I have fitted a sprung saddle to the back as my wife is very happy not to cruise at 180kph
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Fudmucker on March 01, 2012, 04:17:26 pm
I smaak the Desert Storm brown one stukkend !

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91786.0;attach=179520;image)

Add some canvas and brown leather saddlebags and stuff...   :mwink:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Pistonpete on March 01, 2012, 04:31:10 pm
Could i cross-over to something like this? It looks very appealing...lots of style :drif:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on March 01, 2012, 04:32:30 pm
Piston Pete :3some: 

For sure

This is DS with style!i am sure we have a winner here!
Plus it is very satisfactory to ride this
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: TVB on March 01, 2012, 04:32:43 pm
Agree, I would love to see both this and the Military green next to each other!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: whitedelight on March 01, 2012, 06:08:58 pm
Sorry but I fail to see the attraction??Sure it might be pure art to some,but it is an old bike with some Indian enhancements.It sells for R12000-00 where it is made ,and we pay 4 times that amount and think we are getting a bargain??
This thing should be a showpiece(if the styling catches your fancy)confined for indoor purposes.This is just a moving chicane..... ??? 
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on March 01, 2012, 06:19:38 pm
Sorry but I fail to see the attraction??

either you get it, or you don't. it's not for everyone, but I think it's awesome  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Adventurer on March 01, 2012, 06:26:43 pm
Sorry but I fail to see the attraction??

either you get it, or you don't. it's not for everyone, but I think it's awesome  :thumleft:

Wes, I can just see you on this bike....... 8)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: whitedelight on March 01, 2012, 07:04:55 pm
Could i cross-over to something like this? It looks very appealing...lots of style :drif:

Go do a top end run then decide.I passed a froup of Triumph riders a while back,fook me they were doing like 80km/h on the N7.Sorry but to have a chance as a rider you got to at least be a bit quicker than the average car.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: the_wes on March 01, 2012, 07:32:39 pm
Sorry but I fail to see the attraction??

either you get it, or you don't. it's not for everyone, but I think it's awesome  :thumleft:

Wes, I can just see you on this bike....... 8)

So can I, but I already have a super sexy modern classic  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: lecap on March 02, 2012, 07:50:33 am
Go do a top end run then decide...

He doesn't get it ::)

I think the Enfields are awesome too. Someone wants to donate one to a guaranteed good and caring home? :D Or maybe I win the lotto tomorrow.

I was always fascinated by bikes like the Zephyr, CB Seven Fifty, W650 / W800, the new Bonnie & especally the megacool Scrambler.. They allow you to own a "classic" without the drawbacks of worries about diminuishing parts supplies, feeble and breakdown prone mimosa rides and the omnipresent nightmare of binning an irreplaceable bike.

The day you realise that it's not about going faster than a car but having more joy than gong in a car regardless of your speed you're one huge step closer to end up with a bike like the Enfield in your garage.
It's like swimming with the dolphins off Glencairn Beach. You can't compete with it regardless how big and fancy your swimming pool is.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Stofdonkie on March 02, 2012, 07:54:08 am
Jip, I agree.

The grin factor is never quoted on the spec sheet.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Pistonpete on March 02, 2012, 08:17:05 am
Could i cross-over to something like this? It looks very appealing...lots of style :drif:

Go do a top end run then decide.I passed a froup of Triumph riders a while back,fook me they were doing like 80km/h on the N7.Sorry but to have a chance as a rider you got to at least be a bit quicker than the average car.


You are relentless... ;D This boney takes a mindset shift. Hell if you put a sidecar on it would be even slower! :laughing4:
Any bigbore kits available?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: whitedelight on March 02, 2012, 08:50:54 am
Go do a top end run then decide...

He doesn't get it ::)

I think the Enfields are awesome too. Someone wants to donate one to a guaranteed good and caring home? :D Or maybe I win the lotto tomorrow.

I was always fascinated by bikes like the Zephyr, CB Seven Fifty, W650 / W800, the new Bonnie & especally the megacool Scrambler.. They allow you to own a "classic" without the drawbacks of worries about diminuishing parts supplies, feeble and breakdown prone mimosa rides and the omnipresent nightmare of binning an irreplaceable bike.

The day you realise that it's not about going faster than a car but having more joy than gong in a car regardless of your speed you're one huge step closer to end up with a bike like the Enfield in your garage.
It's like swimming with the dolphins off Glencairn Beach. You can't compete with it regardless how big and fancy your swimming pool is.

Dude you can roll your eyes all you want.I did not say that it needs to be a speed demon,but just be able to move more than your average 30-40 ton truck,which it does'nt.
There are plenty retro bikes out there one can own,but a few of them are dog slow,and in my book that can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: whitedelight on March 02, 2012, 08:55:56 am
Could i cross-over to something like this? It looks very appealing...lots of style :drif:

Go do a top end run then decide.I passed a froup of Triumph riders a while back,fook me they were doing like 80km/h on the N7.Sorry but to have a chance as a rider you got to at least be a bit quicker than the average car.


You are relentless... ;D This boney takes a mindset shift. Hell if you put a sidecar on it would be even slower! :laughing4:
Any bigbore kits available?

Why a mindset,I own a Harley,to ride that in itself is a mindset.But owning a bike that cannot do the speedlimit,mmmm, not for me.
Look at the Ad on their website,they say "you will struggle to ride this baby under 60KM/H???"
But why do people get their backs up if your opinion differs from theirs?? ??? ???
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: dirtWarp on March 02, 2012, 09:34:38 am
You can tune the pre-2010 motors big time.

Doing a 535cc fireball kit doubles the power lol!  >:D
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/09/09/ace-fireball-535-royal-enfield-high-performance-kit/ (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/09/09/ace-fireball-535-royal-enfield-high-performance-kit/)
http://www.youtube.com/v/D8A5it-R9rA&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: whitedelight on March 02, 2012, 09:39:00 am
You can tune the pre-2010 motors big time.

Doing a 535cc fireball kit doubles the power lol!  >:D
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/09/09/ace-fireball-535-royal-enfield-high-performance-kit/ (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/09/09/ace-fireball-535-royal-enfield-high-performance-kit/)

So you own one Dirtwarp.What is your bike's comfort speed??You now all our bikes have that speed where they feel just right.My DRZ was like at about 100-110km/h,my Harley is at 130-140km/h and the Yammie is at about 150km/h.
My DRZ was on a national road about ten times and each time I felt my life was in serious danger.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: dirtWarp on March 02, 2012, 09:49:47 am
You can tune the pre-2010 motors big time.

Doing a 535cc fireball kit doubles the power lol!  >:D
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/09/09/ace-fireball-535-royal-enfield-high-performance-kit/ (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/09/09/ace-fireball-535-royal-enfield-high-performance-kit/)

So you own one Dirtwarp.What is your bike's comfort speed??You now all our bikes have that speed where they feel just right.My DRZ was like at about 100-110km/h,my Harley is at 130-140km/h and the Yammie is at about 150km/h.
My DRZ was on a national road about ten times and each time I felt my life was in serious danger.
80-90KM/h

The 2010 versions cruise @ higher speed (new motor)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on March 02, 2012, 11:41:53 am
Big bore kits are available.

Cruise speed is 110 easily, and I am happy with this, this is a speed that I can maintain up and downhill, without any discomfort. The cruise speed, that was comfortable, on my KTM 640 was also in the 100 to 110 range

This baby cruises 60 in town with a smile.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: jaybiker on March 02, 2012, 12:39:04 pm
I grew up with them in their heyday, and I wanted one for my first bike, but the spoilsports brought in a 250cc limit for learners. Back then they were good for a genuine 85 mph. which is what?, about 130 in today's jargon.
Nowadays they are strangled by all the emission and enviromental bollocks, but  no doubt a bit of after sale de-restriction should liberate a fair bit more power.

Further than that they are actually very 'tweakable' and there's a guy in England who races one in the vintage class, and he's been timed at 133mph.
Definitely a bike with some fun potential for those with the inclination.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: RobC on March 02, 2012, 12:48:19 pm
Guys complaining of speed should try a KLR...
That said, these bikes have a cool factor bar none! :thumleft:
Would love to own a "Desert Storm" model, get dressed in my browns and go roaring around the farms here... :mwink: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: DapperMuis on March 02, 2012, 12:48:59 pm
Mmmm... Doing a trip to Hermanus this weekend, will post pics!

500km service booked for Monday!
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: whitedelight on March 02, 2012, 01:09:21 pm
Mmmm... Doing a trip to Hermanus this weekend, will post pics!

500km service booked for Monday!

Well here is wishing you an awesome ride and a safe journey.... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: DapperMuis on March 02, 2012, 08:38:22 pm
Some pictures... Playing with my camera and bike.

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/IMG_5335.jpg)

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/IMG_5330.jpg)

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/IMG_5324.jpg)

My favourite:

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/IMG_5320.jpg)

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/darrellstrydom/IMG_5318-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: 2phat on March 02, 2012, 08:43:38 pm
STUNNING PICS!!!!!!!
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Walkaway on March 02, 2012, 08:46:21 pm

 Forget the hype, the thing is built in India, they are NOT well made. :pot:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: DapperMuis on March 02, 2012, 08:49:41 pm
Thanks 2phat

Got my Camera yesterday, first time round playing with a SLR, and I love it!

Bennet. I beg to differ. this machine is beautifully made, i have inspected it from top to bottom for a while now, and I have probably read every article on the net about it.

Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Walkaway on March 02, 2012, 08:52:56 pm
I do not mean to be insulting, but time will tell.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: DapperMuis on March 02, 2012, 09:00:02 pm
Bennet:

What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything?
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Walkaway on March 02, 2012, 09:01:11 pm
 :thumleft:    :imaposer: :Absolutely.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Pistonpete on March 02, 2012, 09:01:37 pm
I do not mean to be insulting, but time will tell.
All our dreams are different :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Walkaway on March 02, 2012, 09:02:55 pm
 :3some: spot on.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Pistonpete on March 02, 2012, 09:05:52 pm
:3some: spot on.
:laughing4:

As an only bike it's acceptable....the cool factor is undeniable. It's like rocking up in a Roller or Alpha...
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Walkaway on March 02, 2012, 10:06:44 pm
Just  pulling your leg here. On a recent trip to India I saw many Enfields, hundreds in fact. Just loved the look and sound of them. Enjoy your great ride.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: DeadMeat on March 03, 2012, 08:45:53 am
http://capetown-westerncape.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-motorcycles-scooters-Royal-Enfield-Project-W0QQAdIdZ359662842
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: dirtWarp on March 03, 2012, 08:58:27 am
Forget the hype, the thing is built in India, they are NOT well made. :pot:

Do you even know it's history?
News bulletin: They've been built in India since '62 using the tools bought from Enfiled Britain.
My version's head was reworked by the Austrians in 2005, that's the only big difference it has to the original motor from 1960.

I do not mean to be insulting, but time will tell.

Dude, how long should we wait?
Time has been "telling" since 1962
 ::)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: fat b on March 03, 2012, 09:14:25 am
:3some: spot on.
:laughing4:

As an only bike it's acceptable....the cool factor is undeniable. It's like rocking up in a Roller or Alpha...
Now you talking !
Congrats and many happy miles  :thumleft:
Your merc reminds me of my first exploration 4x4 it was a vw baja bug , and I had some of my best adventures in that baby  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Walkaway on March 03, 2012, 09:20:03 am
Forget the hype, the thing is built in India, they are NOT well made. :pot:

Do you even know it's history?
News bulletin: They've been built in India since '62 using the tools bought from Enfiled Britain.
My version's head was reworked by the Austrians in 2005, that's the only big difference it has to the original motor from 1960.

I do not mean to be insulting, but time will
Chill bro, read on down and you will see that I was only ragging. These bikes are cool beans and as I said there are hundreds and thousands ruling the roost in India.

Dude, how long should we wait?
Time has been "telling" since 1962
 ::)
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: dirtWarp on March 03, 2012, 09:25:38 am
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQncVyKFX9I3jRV4lk7222S2WmXeTSPDTyOH3NxLA6dNKpJ7g0n_Q)

Take one tablet before posting
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Chris_M on March 03, 2012, 09:34:57 am
:3some: spot on.
:laughing4:

As an only bike it's acceptable....the cool factor is undeniable. It's like rocking up in a Roller or Alpha...
Now you talking !
Congrats and many happy miles  :thumleft:
Your merc reminds me of my first exploration 4x4 it was a vw baja bug , and I had some of my best adventures in that baby  :thumleft:


Ed

Great bike, unfortunately they seem to not be well respected amongst classic enthusiasts. I'm not a huge fan myself but never ridden one, what is important iis it gives you wood then that's what counts.
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike
Post by: Phacochoerus on March 05, 2012, 09:22:43 am
Mmmm... Doing a trip to Hermanus this weekend, will post pics!

500km service booked for Monday!

How did your trip go? Well I Hope and I hope you are as Happy as I am
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: DapperMuis on March 05, 2012, 11:39:06 am
Trip did not happen this Saturday.. Bike was packed, Girlfriend and I were dressed and ready to go. Then she slipped down the stairs and tore ligaments in her right ankle..

So to make the best of the situation, I rented a chic movie, got her a Chocolate, and rode through Bainskloof pass, and Mitchells pass to Ceres in the afternoon, after all the doctor and x ray stuff.

Bike stood on 360km, with the fuel light still not lit, the last time I refueled the tank was on 113km.

Sunday was a bit rainy, but is soon cleared up. I got my Girlfriend on the bike and we headed for brunch at Station in Franschoek, with sore leg and 'all'.

I filled up in Franschoek at 415 km, I think? And worked out the mixed fuel consumption op 26.3 km per liter. Half of this was done through mountain passes, and the other half 2 up.

The bike is currently with Thruxton mc for the service..
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Pistonpete on March 05, 2012, 12:35:13 pm
Your sensitivity is to be commended....
Title: Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
Post by: Lem on March 05, 2012, 08:41:29 pm
I was at Thruxton MC this afternoon as well. Booked the demo-bike for use on two dates, on my engagement shoot as well as wedding day. Super excited about this. Super service by the brothers.
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Post by: DapperMuis on March 05, 2012, 08:48:53 pm
Lem

Awesome brothers.

That teal colour is going to look awesome with a wedding! I must say, I got beyond expected service from Garth, yet again.
I went for the 500km service, and got 700 on now.

How's this, on the N1 a metro police pulls me over, to get 'praat kak' about my bike!
Please post pics of the wedding!


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Post by: Ventana on March 05, 2012, 08:57:50 pm
I wonder if this absolutely stunning bike  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: shared any history with the arms manufacturer Lee Enfield?  If so thien this bike is going to last a lifetime.  Lee Enfield manufactured rifles for the British army in the 19th and well into the 20th Century and was the weapon of choice for Allied soldiers in WW1 and WW2, and are still being used by many shooting enthusiasts till today (myself included  ;)).

Your bike is bulletproof - may you share a lifetime of smiles - it's not just a lekker bike.........it's simply splendid, dear Watson....
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Post by: DapperMuis on March 05, 2012, 09:01:20 pm
Thanks Ventana.

The name Enfield is indeed derived from the small arms manufacturer, with Royal Enfield's slogan being ' Built like a gun, goes like a bullet'!
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Post by: Lem on March 05, 2012, 09:06:09 pm
Thanks Ventana.

The name Enfield is indeed derived from the small arms manufacturer, with Royal Enfield's slogan being ' Built like a gun, goes like a bullet'!

yes, that is why the brand emblem is a cannon, and they manufactured arms for WW 1.
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Post by: Ventana on March 05, 2012, 09:11:33 pm
Just have to get myself one then - decision made!

(now about that lotto ticket...........) :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Post by: vigilant on January 14, 2013, 10:32:23 pm
So i've been looking at these bikes, 47k new.
I like the desert one
http://royalenfield.com/motorcycles/classic-desert-storm/#!special-features
I've been unsure what to think, but clearly you dogs laaik it stukkend!!
Yamaha turned me into a mechanic, this is a proven low tech and maintenance bike ... i'm good with that.
Now for da finace
 :deal:
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Post by: Fudmucker on January 15, 2013, 12:27:16 pm
Now that RE is using the shorter slightly upswept exhaust, it has the makings of an "Around the world" bike - with the right preparation and tyres of course.
I have one on my wish list.
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Post by: Masai on January 15, 2013, 02:41:44 pm
It is not a modern bike with all sorts off modern features ....  but I think it will be really fun!!  As long as you are not expecting it to have great suspension, handling and  reliability.  ;D
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Post by: vigilant on January 15, 2013, 03:08:40 pm
As long as you are not expecting it to have ...  reliability. 

I'm not seeing reliability as an issue?
Especially not with the new EFI models.
?
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Post by: EATMYKTM. on January 15, 2013, 03:11:38 pm
sub!
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Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2013, 03:25:26 pm
Had a look at them myself a couple of days ago. looks very nice indeed.
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Post by: BiganDaft on January 15, 2013, 03:34:28 pm
Had a look at them myself a couple of days ago. looks very nice indeed.

So now you see a bit of chrome and go soft in the head?
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Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2013, 03:39:14 pm
Had a look at them myself a couple of days ago. looks very nice indeed.

So now you see a bit of chrome and go soft in the head?

:D

Nope. See bike shop - stop - go and look. Any bike shop. I like bike shops. ;D

No seriously, I liked what I saw. Was invited to come and test ride one so I'll reserve my judgement till then. I really like the old school stuff these days.
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Post by: Tommy Transalp on January 15, 2013, 04:20:20 pm
Hey TR.... post an opinion of what you think! ..... Am also thinking of going retro with one of these! :thumleft:
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Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2013, 04:26:01 pm
Will do TT. :thumleft:

Bigandaft aren't these similar to the ones you rode in India? FI / disck brakes etc?

What is your opinion of the bike since you have done extensive DS riding on it?
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Post by: subie on January 15, 2013, 04:56:48 pm
Dis nou nie n enfield nie maar ek kan myself sien op ver verlate paaie met so ene. Sien die een in Centurion.
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Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2013, 05:02:00 pm
Check die kombers!

Ek wonder of die ou regtig trips doen met hom. Hoop so.
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Post by: BiganDaft on January 15, 2013, 05:07:39 pm
Hi TR, we actually rode the older ones 350 "inverted" gear change, carb, kick start and no brakes.
the bloody things are indestructible.
bit of maintenance and thats about it.
We rode on "roads" that I would think twice about walking on, but, slow and steady and we done mountain passes, over 6 800 meters, river crossings, mud...
As long as you ride within your, and the bikes, abilities then you can take anything anywhere.
the only problem is, on longer rides, you will get very bored... But that isn't what it's about.
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Post by: Trailrider on January 15, 2013, 05:12:36 pm
Hi TR, we actually rode the older ones 350 "inverted" gear change, carb, kick start and no brakes.
the bloody things are indestructible.
bit of maintenance and thats about it.
We rode on "roads" that I would think twice about walking on, but, slow and steady and we done mountain passes, over 6 800 meters, river crossings, mud...
As long as you ride within your, and the bikes, abilities then you can take anything anywhere.
the only problem is, on longer rides, you will get very bored... But that isn't what it's about.

Thanks BD. Sounds good.

No getting bored around these parts. :D
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Post by: Lem on January 15, 2013, 06:43:25 pm
I definately have one on my wish list, and SWAMBO likes them as well, she says I can have one.

spares are really cheap, I went to Thruxton MC last week saturday again, and asked about maintenance. These bikes doesn't even need tappet adjustment from time to time, they have hydraulic lifters & tappets.

On the gearbox side, there is a little "proppie"where they adjust a short chain that I think runs off the flywheel. This is done every 6000kms or so.

I would also like to have one, just to honour the current co-owner of the shop, Garth Brandon-Podd, who has taken early retirment due to being terminally ill with testicular cancer. Such a super oke that! I'm not even a client of theirs (yet) and during my injuries form last years crash he phoned me three times, and supplied the bike for my engagement shoot in July.

I love these bikes! They have a certain character that is lacking in modern day thumpers. 

 
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 16, 2013, 06:51:35 am
The Royal Enfield is one purchase that should be extremely carefully considered before buying it. The sales pitch is dependant to a large scale on the past, with nostalgia dripping off the whole concept. Yet when you disect this bike, it is actually not up to scratch to a 1970's Japanese single. If you buy for the pre-war experience, you could find out that you paid a whole lot for frustration.
There are not really many people who can do long tours on underpowered 500cc singles.

P.S. I know I will sound mean, but think these purchases through.
Or search for a good XT/SR500, and go touring with the remaining R30 000. :eek7:
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Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2013, 07:04:25 am
Agree, I would love to see both this and the Military green next to each other!  :thumleft:
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Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2013, 07:05:32 am
The one with the sidecar belongs to a chap in Windhoek. He rode it back to Windhoek when he bought it, and rode it back to Cape Town for this visit.
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Post by: DapperMuis on January 16, 2013, 07:12:09 am
I am very sorry to hear about Garth - both him and Adrian are the reason why i bought my Enfield - their service is rated above excellent!

2SD

Ek dink jy moet bietjie jou comment revise, Yamaha is nie die enigste bike op die mark nie. - Ek sou begin deur mark navorsing te doen, en met iemand te praat wat een van die fietse al gery het.

Myne het 9000km op die klok, nog nie 'n druppel olie gebruik nie, nog geen probleem gehad nie. Ek kan enige tyd op hom klim, die sleutel aanskakel, en net ry, sonder om ooit oor iets bekommerd te wees.

'n diens by my vriendlike handelaar kos R300 - en die motofiets is nog onder waarborg. Daar is wel plek vir Yahama XT500/600 in die mark, ek sal mal daaroor wees om 'n XT600 Tenere te hy myself, maar sien nie elke dag kans om my kuite af te skop om hom aan die gang te kry nie. My Enfield lek ook nie olie nie, nog iets waarvoor ek nie kans sien nie.

Enige iemand wat belangstel om so 'n fiets te koop, sal ek voorstel dat jy self een gaan toetsrit by die handelaar, ek persoonlik dink jy gaan nie bter diens kry by enige ander motorfiets handelaar nie, en al die Royal Enfield handelaars is baie trots op hul produkte. Almal wat ek sover ontmoet het, het ook 'n passie vir klasieke motorfietse.

Ek het al 100de km grondpad gery met my Enfield, selfs die R354. R355 en R356, in reen en modder, toe ander mense nie kans gesien het daarvoor nie ( en my meisie was saam agterop met al die kamp toerusting vir 'n naweek)

Ek het baie respek vir Royal Enfield en Royal Enfield SA die laaste 900km gekry.

Oppad terug van WD bash af

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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 16, 2013, 07:14:52 am
Bly om te hoor jy is gelukkig Dappermuis, maar jy wou weer verkoop, nie so nie? Wat is die rede?
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Post by: DapperMuis on January 16, 2013, 07:18:46 am
Ek het 2 bikes - en ek het 'n studies om te betaal - die Enfield het die meeste her verkoop waarde tussen hom en die BMW.

Ek is nog elke dag hartseer omdat ek hom laat gaan het, en sal eendag weer een koop ek het my beste ry tyd op die Enfield gehad.
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Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2013, 07:33:29 am
Looks very cool with the knobblies! 8)
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Post by: DapperMuis on January 16, 2013, 07:41:53 am
Knoblies are awesome!!!!
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Post by: Lem on January 16, 2013, 08:14:39 am
as ek kan 'n algemene stelling maak. Die Royal Enfield is 'n spesifieke styl van fiets wat nie in almal se maak sal val nie. Dit is 'n gentlemans bike, net soos wat jy superbikes en cruisers kry met hulle eie unieke styl.

sommige mense op die forum hou daarvan om na motorfietse te kyk, ander om aan hulle te krap en mense soos ek, om net met hulle te ry.
 
Ek self is nie iemand wat as ek ry besluit om te jaag nie, wheelies gooi, powerslides gooi, my pegs deurskuur, front wheel stoppies maak nie ens. So die classic bike ding is dalk net vir my.

En ek hou eintlik baie van die analogy om 'n 2013 Royal Enfield te gaan vergelyk met n laat '70's XT500. Beide bikes is "dripping with nostalgia"soos 2SD hierbo noem. Ek sal nie graag verwys na n SR500 nie, want dis basies Masterparts se delivery bikes gewees, en ek sien niks romanties of ouliks of nostalgic daarin om my langverwagte saterdagoggend brekkie run met so iets te gaan doen nie. Maar XT500's is vir my mooi.
 
maar in 2013 kom 'n '70's XT500, maak nie saak hoe goed hy was in 1976 nie met verskeie drawbacks. Die goed is nou almal oor die 30 jaar oud, en stukkend, en bly gedurig stukkend. Al is dit ook klein foutjies, foutjies duik gereeld op. Jy kan tans nie die kans waag om enige XT500 te koop vir onder R 25 000 en dink jy gaan sorgvry rondom Suid-Afrika toer, sonder dat iets, maak nie saak hoe klein nie gaan breek nie. Want, in 2013 is bykans elke XT500 al minstens drie keer oorgedoen, meestal in agterplase, deur drie verkillende mense, met verskillende skill levels.   

Dis seker oraait as jy self n mechanic is, of opleiding daarin het, dan kan jy jou hand op sulke ou goed hou, en jy behoort die passie te he om daaraan te krap.

Maar net soos wat n mechanic nie my werk kan doen nie, kan ek nie syne doen nie. En daai reel geld vir 80% van hierdie forum se lede.

Vir n bike om tweedehands te kon raak, moes iemand hom nuut koop, en die hedendaagse nuwe koper is hoofsaaklik mense wie kantoorgebonde werke het, of vanuit professionele beroepe werk. Daardie ouens het nie die tyd, om as hulle wil gaan bike ry, te sukkel met ou goed nie. Daarom is die BMW GS, en Yamaha 660/1200 reeks, en KTM 990 reeks so gewild. want as sy battery gecharge is, en hyt petrol in, en jy druk die knoppie regs bo, dan sal hy in meeste gevalle start, en vir n hele paar jaar ook daarmee aanhou.


So die onlangse verbeteringe op die Royal Enfield van 12volt electrics, electric start, brandstofinspuiting en disk brakes voor is vir mense soos ek. En ek hou daarvan.  En vir my sal hy hou. 
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Post by: TheAnt on January 16, 2013, 08:45:55 am
as ek kan 'n algemene stelling maak. Die Royal Enfield is 'n spesifieke styl van fiets wat nie in almal se maak sal val nie. Dit is 'n gentlemans bike, net soos wat jy superbikes en cruisers kry met hulle eie unieke styl.

sommige mense op die forum hou daarvan om na motorfietse te kyk, ander om aan hulle te krap en mense soos ek, om net met hulle te ry.
 
Ek self is nie iemand wat as ek ry besluit om te jaag nie, wheelies gooi, powerslides gooi, my pegs deurskuur, front wheel stoppies maak nie ens. So die classic bike ding is dalk net vir my.

En ek hou eintlik baie van die analogy om 'n 2013 Royal Enfield te gaan vergelyk met n laat '70's XT500. Beide bikes is "dripping with nostalgia"soos 2SD hierbo noem. Ek sal nie graag verwys na n SR500 nie, want dis basies Masterparts se delivery bikes gewees, en ek sien niks romanties of ouliks of nostalgic daarin om my langverwagte saterdagoggend brekkie run met so iets te gaan doen nie. Maar XT500's is vir my mooi.
 
maar in 2013 kom 'n '70's XT500, maak nie saak hoe goed hy was in 1976 nie met verskeie drawbacks. Die goed is nou almal oor die 30 jaar oud, en stukkend, en bly gedurig stukkend. Al is dit ook klein foutjies, foutjies duik gereeld op. Jy kan tans nie die kans waag om enige XT500 te koop vir onder R 25 000 en dink jy gaan sorgvry rondom Suid-Afrika toer, sonder dat iets, maak nie saak hoe klein nie gaan breek nie. Want, in 2013 is bykans elke XT500 al minstens drie keer oorgedoen, meestal in agterplase, deur drie verkillende mense, met verskillende skill levels.   

Dis seker oraait as jy self n mechanic is, of opleiding daarin het, dan kan jy jou hand op sulke ou goed hou, en jy behoort die passie te he om daaraan te krap.

Maar net soos wat n mechanic nie my werk kan doen nie, kan ek nie syne doen nie. En daai reel geld vir 80% van hierdie forum se lede.

Vir n bike om tweedehands te kon raak, moes iemand hom nuut koop, en die hedendaagse nuwe koper is hoofsaaklik mense wie kantoorgebonde werke het, of vanuit professionele beroepe werk. Daardie ouens het nie die tyd, om as hulle wil gaan bike ry, te sukkel met ou goed nie. Daarom is die BMW GS, en Yamaha 660/1200 reeks, en KTM 990 reeks so gewild. want as sy battery gecharge is, en hyt petrol in, en jy druk die knoppie regs bo, dan sal hy in meeste gevalle start, en vir n hele paar jaar ook daarmee aanhou.


So die onlangse verbeteringe op die Royal Enfield van 12volt electrics, electric start, brandstofinspuiting en disk brakes voor is vir mense soos ek. En ek hou daarvan.  En vir my sal hy hou. 

Baie mooi gese Lem! Ek stem 100% saam met jou. Dit is nie 'n bike vir enige man nie, maar dit is iets anders en ek sal like om self een te ry eendag... :thumleft:
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Post by: TheAnt on January 16, 2013, 08:54:20 am
@ Dappermuis...

Paar vrae oor die bike en jy het een gehad so sal seker beste antwoorde kan gee...

Gemaklike cruising spoed op en af van die pad?
Hoe ver op 'n tank?
Diens intervals?
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Post by: TVB on January 16, 2013, 09:07:07 am
Ek is ook malm oor die bike, die geskiedenis, die ou skool 'look en gevoel' maar hier is my siening na n bietjie naviorsing:

Brits het n taamlike groot Indier gemeenskap en n hele paar kranige bikers> Dit maak sin om hul mening te kry maar ek het verwag dat hulle uit trots omdat dit 'van India' af is baie 'biased' gaan wees.
Groot was my verbasing om die volgende stellings te kry: 'Not reliable motorbike', 'Only old 350 was a good bike" en menigde ander meer negatiewe kommentaar. Hoewel die Enfields baie goedkoop aangebied word in India is Bajaj en Honda "Hero Honda..?" volgens hulle die bike!

Ek het toe op die internet begin rondgrawe en baie van die probleme soos uitgelig deur my 'spicey vriende' bevestig

Vir my is daar baie ander retro opsies wat voldoen aan die 'tempo' van ons moderne sameleweing. Nie te min, die Royal enfield sal steeds my n oomblik laat pause wanneer ek verby stap.

Heeltemal nou in n ander prysklas, is die W800 nie n stunning bike nie? Lanklaas n Triumph Scrambler gesien, selfs al n Bonyville met knoblies gesien in Brits. Ek dink n man moet passop om nie v3erblind te word deur n goeie retro look en prystag nie ???
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Post by: vigilant on January 16, 2013, 11:26:58 am

There are not really many people who can do long tours on underpowered 500cc singles.


There are not many bikes that do cross continent tours, RE appears more than any other, from 70's scramblers to gs1200's.

Surely there's a reason for that?

I need it for commuting my 30km each way, i'm most worried about top end on the highways, for commuting i want reliability. And then touring, i don't travel enough, i need a bike that can do long gravel roads.

I could go for a klr/vstrom modern bike, but i'm not convinced they'll last as long, or run as cheaply.

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Post by: Trailrider on January 16, 2013, 05:10:42 pm
as ek kan 'n algemene stelling maak. Die Royal Enfield is 'n spesifieke styl van fiets wat nie in almal se maak sal val nie. Dit is 'n gentlemans bike, net soos wat jy superbikes en cruisers kry met hulle eie unieke styl.

sommige mense op die forum hou daarvan om na motorfietse te kyk, ander om aan hulle te krap en mense soos ek, om net met hulle te ry.
 
Ek self is nie iemand wat as ek ry besluit om te jaag nie, wheelies gooi, powerslides gooi, my pegs deurskuur, front wheel stoppies maak nie ens. So die classic bike ding is dalk net vir my.

En ek hou eintlik baie van die analogy om 'n 2013 Royal Enfield te gaan vergelyk met n laat '70's XT500. Beide bikes is "dripping with nostalgia"soos 2SD hierbo noem. Ek sal nie graag verwys na n SR500 nie, want dis basies Masterparts se delivery bikes gewees, en ek sien niks romanties of ouliks of nostalgic daarin om my langverwagte saterdagoggend brekkie run met so iets te gaan doen nie. Maar XT500's is vir my mooi.
 
maar in 2013 kom 'n '70's XT500, maak nie saak hoe goed hy was in 1976 nie met verskeie drawbacks. Die goed is nou almal oor die 30 jaar oud, en stukkend, en bly gedurig stukkend. Al is dit ook klein foutjies, foutjies duik gereeld op. Jy kan tans nie die kans waag om enige XT500 te koop vir onder R 25 000 en dink jy gaan sorgvry rondom Suid-Afrika toer, sonder dat iets, maak nie saak hoe klein nie gaan breek nie. Want, in 2013 is bykans elke XT500 al minstens drie keer oorgedoen, meestal in agterplase, deur drie verkillende mense, met verskillende skill levels.   

Dis seker oraait as jy self n mechanic is, of opleiding daarin het, dan kan jy jou hand op sulke ou goed hou, en jy behoort die passie te he om daaraan te krap.

Maar net soos wat n mechanic nie my werk kan doen nie, kan ek nie syne doen nie. En daai reel geld vir 80% van hierdie forum se lede.

Vir n bike om tweedehands te kon raak, moes iemand hom nuut koop, en die hedendaagse nuwe koper is hoofsaaklik mense wie kantoorgebonde werke het, of vanuit professionele beroepe werk. Daardie ouens het nie die tyd, om as hulle wil gaan bike ry, te sukkel met ou goed nie. Daarom is die BMW GS, en Yamaha 660/1200 reeks, en KTM 990 reeks so gewild. want as sy battery gecharge is, en hyt petrol in, en jy druk die knoppie regs bo, dan sal hy in meeste gevalle start, en vir n hele paar jaar ook daarmee aanhou.


So die onlangse verbeteringe op die Royal Enfield van 12volt electrics, electric start, brandstofinspuiting en disk brakes voor is vir mense soos ek. En ek hou daarvan.  En vir my sal hy hou. 

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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 16, 2013, 05:28:48 pm
Lem, hier is mense op hierdie forum, ouens soos StrokeHer, GJ, Berserker wat al almal saam met my op n paar LANG trips was, ek op my XT500, en vra maar, as daar enige probleem is kom dit van van een van die ander make af, niks moeilikheid met n XT ooit nie.
Masterparts se delivery bikes was oorspronklik Suzuki GN250's, later Chinese nabootsings van n Suzuki GN250. Dit is n heelal weg van n SR500 af. :patch:
Ek noem n XT500, omdat dit die beste voorbeeld van n kanniedood enkelsilinder is wat jy kan kry, en al moet ek saamstem dat baie van hulle deurgeloop het onder breinchirurge met 10 duime, sien ek baie XT500's wat met min sorg n Enfield sal oorleef.
Wees nostalgies, maar wees oopkop ook.
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Post by: the_BOBNOB on January 16, 2013, 05:51:58 pm
...maar wees oopkop...

lol

as dit nou nie die mees ironieste post op die hele internet is nie  :peepwall:
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 16, 2013, 05:53:47 pm
...maar wees oopkop...

lol

as dit nou nie die mees ironieste post op die hele internet is nie  :peepwall:

Ek is brand-befok, maar is nog NOOIT langs die pad gelos deur n bike nie. Ek dink dit is dalk omdat ek oopkop is..... :imaposer:
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Post by: Lem on January 16, 2013, 06:05:50 pm
2SD

eks voor in die tou vir die integriteit van 'n 500cc aircooled thumper, maar

jys 'n mechanic, ek is nie. 'n probleem vir my is iets wat my dalk laat gaan staan, is vir jou dalk net 'n los draadjie wat jy onmiddelik optel en dalk nie eers sien as n probleem nie.

ek het al baie voor dieselfde keuse gestaan. maar as ek sien hoe sukkel baie forum lede met hul ou thumpers van verskeie fabrikate, XT's inkluis, dan besef ek dat vir my is oopkop, om so nuut as moontlik te kyk binne die budget wat ek het.

'n goeie voorbeeld is my skoonpa op Villiersdorp se 1993 Toyota Hilux bakkie.1800 SR, nes die destydse poliesvans. eenvoudige meganika, en n kanniedood, soos jy noem van die XT500. Hy het nou 493 000km op die klok, so hy het sy kant gebring en homself vele kere terugbetaal. Start steeds eerste swaai. Maar skoonpa ry al vir twee jaar nie verder as Caledon of Worcester met hom nie, ver ingeval iets breek. Want iets gaan breek, want hy is plein oud. En dit help nie jy doen enjin oor nie, want dan is die res van die bakkie steeds 20 jaar oud, en dis die wortel van die volgende probleme.    

  
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Post by: Vlakhaas on January 16, 2013, 06:22:49 pm
Daar is nie eintlik iets aan 'n XT wat kan breek nie................

Een van my werknemers het 'n 1983 XT500 by iemand op hierdie forum gekoop. Ek sien die fiets elke dag, en het vroeer self met hom in die Namib gery. Die laaste 30 000km het net bande en sprockets gekos.

'n Ou bike is nie noodwendig 'n money-pit of onbetroubaar nie.

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Post by: Vlakhaas on January 16, 2013, 06:23:53 pm
Ek moet erken die Enfield is baie mooi
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Post by: Footpeg se PA on January 16, 2013, 06:55:20 pm
Ek dink ook die bikes lyk goed. Sal graag een vir n test drive wil vat. :ricky:
Dit is miskien net wat ek nodig het as die 1150 ADV te swaar raak.
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 16, 2013, 06:59:02 pm
Daar is nie eintlik iets aan 'n XT wat kan breek nie................

Een van my werknemers het 'n 1983 XT500 by iemand op hierdie forum gekoop. Ek sien die fiets elke dag, en het vroeer self met hom in die Namib gery. Die laaste 30 000km het net bande en sprockets gekos.

'n Ou bike is nie noodwendig 'n money-pit of onbetroubaar nie.



Dankie Vlakhaas, ek het n bietjie ondersteuning nodig tussen hierdie klomp Filistyne. :pot: :imaposer:
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Post by: Tommy Transalp on January 16, 2013, 08:52:33 pm
FOCUS boys..... we're talking about Royal Enfields here... not Jamjars! :argue:
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Post by: Fudmucker on January 17, 2013, 05:47:39 am
If it was not for increasing EU standards for noise and emissions, older design engines like the RE would still be fully functional and capable of work as they are simpler and less stressed. 

The new designs do perform better and produce more power, torque amd fuel economy due to hi-tech engine management.  But it is the hi-tech that fails as they are not DESIGNED for durability without continuous repeated adjustment of hypercritical fuel-air ratio settings and replacement of the sensors that inform the system. 

Carbs were always a compromise for the whole rev range, whereas EFI can be different over the whole rev range. 

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 17, 2013, 07:07:05 am
Modern electronics are actually very reliable, considering the amount of vehicles sold nowadays. The cheaper level of vehicles, Tata, Enfield, Cherry, etc, does not use electronic components of the quality that say Yamaha would fit, so there is more of a reliability issue here. Aircraft are full of electronics, yet failures are uncommon.
Like Fudmucker pointed out, emission requirements is what is sounding the death knell for XT's, Enfields, etc.
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Post by: Single Cylinder on January 17, 2013, 02:48:50 pm
Die bikes lyk nice, maar 1950s' Britse tegnologie in India gebou, ek weetnie so mooi nie......   :pot:
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Post by: vigilant on January 17, 2013, 03:29:27 pm

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)


So how would a RE compare against an airhead?

Fuel / maintenance / speed / other?
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 17, 2013, 04:21:19 pm
Airhead is a twin, RE a single, difficult comparing.
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Post by: TVB on January 17, 2013, 04:55:42 pm

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)


So how would a RE compare against an airhead?

Fuel / maintenance / speed / other?

Royal Enfield:

Fuel: lighter
Maintenance: yet to be confirmed in SA but the airhead is known for reliability
Speed: RE is really slow and all day cruising speed is ariund 110 (more and the motor is stressed) acceleration and therefore overtaking is real slow but on the other hand, you are not going to do a lot of overtaking or win traffuc light dices. The airhead outperforms the RE but you cant compare a single and twin can you?
Other-posinng value maybe? Perfect bike for short breacfast runs with old style helmut and goggles


:thumleft:

This is only my opinion, it is a nice shirt distance classic
KLR is not much more money and with her you can do anything an even cruise two up for the whole day on 130 and still have enough power for swift overtaking

 
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Post by: Vlakhaas on January 18, 2013, 10:38:28 am
If it was not for increasing EU standards for noise and emissions, older design engines like the RE would still be fully functional and capable of work as they are simpler and less stressed. 

The new designs do perform better and produce more power, torque amd fuel economy due to hi-tech engine management.  But it is the hi-tech that fails as they are not DESIGNED for durability without continuous repeated adjustment of hypercritical fuel-air ratio settings and replacement of the sensors that inform the system. 

Carbs were always a compromise for the whole rev range, whereas EFI can be different over the whole rev range. 

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)


Ural, not India, but close enough. Concept is the same
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Post by: Fudmucker on January 18, 2013, 04:46:21 pm
Ural, not India, but close enough. Concept is the same

I was thinking more of the R50/60/75 engines - the Type 247.
The Ural is based on a circa 1941 BMW motor design, but with engineering to much coarser tolerances.
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Post by: Meulikopter on January 19, 2013, 05:31:33 pm
Magistraat maar die goed is mooi!  :ricky: Kan mens hulle test-drive daar in Somerset Wes?
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Post by: Vulcan on March 07, 2013, 08:35:20 am
Ek skeur vanoggend amper my nêrsderm mors af in die traffic. Net om die draai van WOA in Edwardsstraat in Bellvillle het n nuwe tak van Thruxton oopgemaak en hulle was besig om die Desert kleur ene op n ramp uit te stoot. O moedertjie maar dis mooi. Ek het lanklaas iets so mooi gesien.

Daar is definitief een in my toekoms.
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Post by: Swart Gevaar on March 07, 2013, 08:54:54 am
 :sip:
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Post by: Lem on March 07, 2013, 09:10:01 am
Ek skeur vanoggend amper my nęrsderm mors af in die traffic. Net om die draai van WOA in Edwardsstraat in Bellvillle het n nuwe tak van Thruxton oopgemaak en hulle was besig om die Desert kleur ene op n ramp uit te stoot. O moedertjie maar dis mooi. Ek het lanklaas iets so mooi gesien.

Daar is definitief een in my toekoms.

ek hou ook vol, ek MOET net weer my toetrede op een van hierdie outjies maak. goeie deals beskikbaar in die tweedehandse mark. 
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Post by: Pom17 on March 07, 2013, 09:11:59 am
 :sip:
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Post by: cloudgazer on March 07, 2013, 09:28:52 am
I'm seriously considering one of these with a side car - so i can take the wife and kid on rides.

how easy is it to remove the sidecar when not in use?

how is the bike for 2 up touring?
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Post by: BiganDaft on March 07, 2013, 10:43:58 am
2 weeks ago, coming back from Clarens, inna car, I saw a matte green RE on the highway near to the PPC factory.
the guy was one-up, but no slouch, doing probably 120, and seemed to have a bit in reserve.
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Post by: Tommy Transalp on March 07, 2013, 02:07:13 pm
Any body selling one? :deal:
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Post by: arno on March 07, 2013, 04:00:34 pm
They are opening right across the road from my office in Durbanville. Will pop in and check it out