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Title: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 04, 2012, 12:19:40 pm
Hey Ho Photography Campers

I have been wanting to start a Thread so we can Chat about Editing and STUFF

Photoshop CS 3 4 or 5

Lightroom 2 3 or the new 4

Adobe Elements 6 8 or the new improved 10


So Im a JUNKY when it comes to this software , guess thats why im a master of none  :mwink:.


For example I JUST Discovered PHOTOSHOP PLUGINS - WOW WTF , why didnt i know about these  :thumleft:

I have a 400 meg file of TOPAZ plugins if anyone wants

Would love to chat to like minded people about this

Wayne
0836264122


Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Kobus on June 04, 2012, 12:24:40 pm
that mountain pic is stunning.

Start off by telling us what you did to it.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Dirt Junkie on June 04, 2012, 12:31:44 pm
it would be quite interesting to see the original
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 04, 2012, 12:32:33 pm
Amazing mountain pic.

I've just started using CS6 (Photoshop and After Effects), I'm more into the creating side of things rather than pic editing, the new photoshop has some amazing improvements to content-aware engine etc.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Kobus on June 04, 2012, 12:38:01 pm
busy downloading LR4 ............
just need a licence
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 04, 2012, 02:18:28 pm
Hey Kobus


You and me Both on Light Room 4

Found a guy in Sea Point that may be able to help ...we should Chat  :mwink:

Ok will go into detail about pic

This is an HDR

Its a combination of 3 photos shot at -1 zero and +1 exposure

Using software like photmatix you blend all 3 to show all high and low lights

Here are the 3 original photos 
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: N[]vA on June 04, 2012, 03:47:58 pm
photoshop & lightroom cs5
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: White Rhino on June 04, 2012, 04:08:50 pm
Sub :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 04, 2012, 10:00:05 pm
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Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Lourens ツ on June 05, 2012, 12:04:58 pm
Hey Kobus


You and me Both on Light Room 4

Found a guy in Sea Point that may be able to help ...we should Chat  :mwink:

Ok will go into detail about pic

This is an HDR

Its a combination of 3 photos shot at -1 zero and +1 exposure

Using software like photmatix you blend all 3 to show all high and low lights

Here are the 3 original photos  

Thanks for posting the originals hayleyscomet. I hope you don't mind that I applied my HDR view to your originals and this is how I would do it.
Thanks, that was fun.  :thumleft:

BTW I use CS4.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Dirt Junkie on June 05, 2012, 12:11:02 pm
Lourens please share on how to do this in CS4  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Mzee on June 05, 2012, 12:23:57 pm
Hasn't photoshop killed the art of good ol photography?
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Dirt Junkie on June 05, 2012, 12:32:55 pm
Hasn't photoshop killed the art of good ol photography?
Editing photos to the extent of the above is not really photography I agree with you on that,"you can't print it and say you took that photo". but I get inspired to get out there more and experiment and learn more techniques
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: zetman on June 05, 2012, 12:37:15 pm
Hmm ek leer nog fotos neem... het n spoeg en plak kamera... watse free editing software is beskikbaar?
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Lourens ツ on June 05, 2012, 12:41:34 pm
Hasn't photoshop killed the art of good ol photography?

The art of "good ol photography" died with film.  Photography will never go back to its original roots.  But that's just it. Photography is ART and it evolved to what we see today. No modern day photographer is without some photo manipulating software. But then again, no modern digital camera captures images as film did.

I say "viva digital" but I'm also thankful that I learned my skills in the film days.  Being a pro photographer in those day was much easier because if you knew your equipment then you would be one in ten thousand who can pull of a difficult shot but nowadays any mik-en-druk can do the same.  I used to charge R3000 for a wedding in the late 80's excluding development/album or any post shooting involvement. I used to shoot 6-10  36 photo rolls and just handed them over to whoever paid me.  The vast majority of my photos I have never seen but I know I was good because nobody ever complained and I always got referrals.  Those where the days.  ;D

I feel sorry for today's pro's. Its MUCH harder work to make a success with photography nowadays.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Lourens ツ on June 05, 2012, 12:53:33 pm
Hasn't photoshop killed the art of good ol photography?
Editing photos to the extent of the above is not really photography I agree with you on that,"you can't print it and say you took that photo". but I get inspired to get out there more and experiment and learn more techniques

You will be surprised to know what the people where able to do in dark rooms way back then.  They could achieve much the same results as our HDR compilations.  Remember that one of the big shortfalls of digital is what is know as "dynamic range".  Film had a much broader range and that means it captured with the same exposure far more detail in very dark and very light areas.  Using darkroom techniques those details could easily be brought out.  HDR is the way why can overcome the narrow dynamic range of digital cameras.

Of course its still a photo that you took AND you can present it that way.  What's wrong with it?  I love hayleyscomet's HDR version and it is obvious he went for the arty feel while I went for a more natural feel.  More in-line with how the eye would actually see it.  However, as art I would rather hang a poster size print of hayleyscomet's version than mine simply because it challenges what we see as "normal" .  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Lourens ツ on June 05, 2012, 12:55:54 pm
Lourens please share on how to do this in CS4  :thumleft:

This could be a lengthy discussion.

Here is a useful HDR tutorial. (http://www.eventphotos.co.za/post/hdr.html) <- Click-click  (it takes a while to load)
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 14, 2012, 11:28:16 pm
Not photoshop..but along the same lines.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5it5sTTcr1rq74tpo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 15, 2012, 10:10:46 am
Lourens please share on how to do this in CS4  :thumleft:

This could be a lengthy discussion.

Here is a useful HDR tutorial. (http://www.eventphotos.co.za/post/hdr.html) <- Click-click  (it takes a while to load)

A great Tutorial Lourens

Thanks

Well done Ettienne
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 19, 2012, 09:56:24 am
Hey Guys and Dolls

Had to go see clients in Wolseley Ceres and Worcester last week.

SO the WIFE suggests I go sleep over and take camera with.

Suffice to say I said FOK YAAA end DANKIE en GoBYE.

Here are some photos from the trip up.

A FEW in HDR and some Star Trails at the END

ALLAS I did not go by bike so no bike photos

Wayne

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 19, 2012, 09:59:37 am

Last Few

My Favorite  :thumleft:

Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Minora on June 19, 2012, 10:44:58 am
Baie Mooi foto's!!!

How much for the Photoshop/Lightroom/Adobe elements software if I may ask?
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 19, 2012, 10:47:38 am
CS6 conference in CPT this Thurs :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Lourens ツ on June 19, 2012, 10:49:32 am
Beautiful pics hayleyscomet!  I also love the bridge and water one.  :thumleft:

I would hang your images as art work on my wall anytime. You should sell prints at some of those art-in-the-park days.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 19, 2012, 10:51:27 am
Thanks Lourens , hoped you would like

Minora ............YOu Can have lightroom

Where are you based ?

Wayne
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Minora on June 19, 2012, 11:32:07 am
Thanks Lourens , hoped you would like

Minora ............YOu Can have lightroom

Where are you based ?

Wayne

Thanks so much Wayne

I am based in Zambia...... >:(, but only till the end of the month then I return back South.

My fiance is in Cape-Town so can arrange something  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Kobus on June 19, 2012, 04:03:35 pm
Some gems there.

Are you enjoying the 10-22?
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Eisbein on June 19, 2012, 04:28:47 pm
Sheeet...

I love these two:

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99846.0;attach=204410;image)


(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99846.0;attach=204413;image)
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 26, 2012, 02:52:58 am
CS6 launch conference was amazing, they did a 10 week world tour with 3 of the developers as speakers, CPT was the last stop on the tour.

CS6 is amazing, one of the main features in Photoshop includes video editing too now.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 26, 2012, 03:04:11 am
Nowhere near Hayleyscomets level but,

Using LR

from this to this.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: hayleyscomet on June 26, 2012, 05:04:43 am


That's very well done Etiiene.

Show us some more
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: White Rhino on June 26, 2012, 05:52:36 am
Awsome stuff gents - nice to see skills at work with professional results :thumleft:
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Etienne2T on June 26, 2012, 10:26:19 am


That's very well done Etiiene.

Show us some more

Dankie, just got me a 550D, that shoots video :D , so just played around in the gardens yesterday.
Shooting a MX segment on Thurs if CPT hasn't been washed away.
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: Allegro on July 03, 2012, 03:29:46 pm

DEM  :drif: en ek het gedink ek kan nie te sleg kiekies neem nie...
Title: Re: Photoshop or Lightroom or Adobe Elements
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 03, 2012, 05:03:31 pm
Aaah at last....

some great pics there HayleysComet. HDR can be a great method of showing good photos.

I have been using photoshop for years, I think I first started off with version 7 and then carried on from there. I am currently running with CS4 extended. I would upgrade but have yet to find the cash for said upgrade.  :eek7:  I have tried Lightroom in the past, but I find photoshop is way better and can do a whole lot more stuff. As for plugins, I am running Color Efex pro and Silver Efex as well as Viveza but I dont use it as often as the other two. BUt in saying that, there is no substitute for a bad photo. you can tweak it all you like with any software on the market, but as far as I am concerned, a crap photo will remain just that!!

THen again, I will sometimes shoot a specific scene or subject with editing in mind, and other times I shoot to capture what i see in front of me. There are events I go to around  Africa where I have to shoot to capture the emotion of the people and scene. At those shoots i will mix my "shoot to edit" and "shoot to print" styles and for the most part I have had great success with that

for example, I shot this collection of human skulls and bones in eastern Europe. When I took the picture I already knew I wanted to do a black&white edit to it.

(http://darkhorsestudios.co.za/wp-content/gallery/gallery-1/Sedlec-6.jpg)

On the other hand, I shot these zebra in Kenya, I think the only edit I did was remove a dust spot from the sky, the rest is as I shot it...... Certainly one of my favourites

(http://darkhorsestudios.co.za/wp-content/gallery/gallery-2/jumping-stripes.jpg)


I have never been that good at doing HDR conversions, mine always end up looking like sh#t so I tend not to use this method in my work, but if done properly it can look amazing.... see haleyscomets work for a good example!

my attempt at HDR

(http://darkhorsestudios.co.za/wp-content/gallery/high-dynamic-range/down-the-road.jpg)