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Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« on: February 11, 2015, 10:03:16 am »
This is the first test case and will have major implications  :(

http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/fake-plates-lead-to-1907-charges-1.1816139#.VNsLpiwrL9o

Pretoria - An employee of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research has appeared briefly in the Pretoria Magistrate’s Court on 1907 fraud charges after he allegedly drove between Pretoria and Johannesburg using false number plates for about 10 months in an alleged bid to dodge paying e-toll fees.

The bulk of the charges against Stoyen Stoychev relate to using false number plates while driving on the N1 and each time he drove through a gantry, counted as one charge.

It appeared from the charge sheet that he owed Sanral about R15 000 in toll fees.

This is said to be the first case of this nature before the court since e-tolls were implemented in Gauteng in 2013.

From 3 December 2013 up to 2 October 2 last year, when he was arrested, Stoychev allegedly used the falsified number plates, in Pretoria and Johannesburg.

While he drove a white Hyundai i30 hatchback, one of the number plates he used belonged to the owner of a Ford Bantam bakkie - a certain BN Bunting.

SANRAL PREJUDICED

The Gauteng registration number he used (and which belonged to Bunting) started with CF, but it is claimed that Stoychev at times altered the C into an O.

According to the charge sheet, the number plate starting with “OF” did not exist on the national traffic information system (e-Natis), while the number starting with the CF was registered to Bunting.

The State said Stoychev, as an e-toll user, was required to pay for every gantry he crossed and thus using a falsified number plate resulted in fraud.

It was said that he used these number plates to evade the liability of paying e-tolls, which prejudiced Sanral.

Other charges include that he allegedly drove his vehicle while not displaying a number plate on the back of his car.

According to the national road traffic regulations, number plates must be attached to a vehicle in such a manner that they are not easily detachable.

Each letter and figure must also be clearly legible and visible.

Stoychev has not yet pleaded to the charges and the case was postponed to 25 February.

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2015, 10:20:54 am »
Aha. This will be interesting.
 

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2015, 10:26:20 am »
Aha. This will be interesting.

perhaps the Wilddogs should brief counsel to appear pro amico
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2015, 10:36:59 am »
Gonna be interesting.

Either way, if they have proof of dodge plates, he is guilty of an offence and will have to pay for that.

BUT

Lets see if they then gonna try and screw him for the toll fees.

They gonna try make it look like they gonna win the E toll fees to scare people, watch the press and article wordings carefully
 

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2015, 10:39:38 am »
How will they prove it is him? Did he have a etag?

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2015, 10:41:02 am »
If you want to refuse to pay eTolls then by all means, refuse. Strike, drive slow and do all that. But really, using false plates is just fraud. Plain and simple. And then sometimes altering the plates too? Stupid.  :eek7:
 

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 10:46:13 am »
If you want to refuse to pay eTolls then by all means, refuse. Strike, drive slow and do all that. But really, using false plates is just fraud. Plain and simple. And then sometimes altering the plates too? Stupid.  :eek7:
Agreed. He would've been better off just not paying.
 

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2015, 10:58:11 am »
I hope this piece of shit gets his due.  :dousing:

I got an e-toll invoice for my car too, although my car has never been to Gauteng. . . . .and on the photo it was not an Audi A4, it was a Chev with my reg no.  :sip:
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2015, 11:10:04 am »
If he gets judged guilty, it will set an interesting precedent. It follows that my plate may have been cloned, and therefore I cannot be liable for toll fees.
 

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2015, 11:11:03 am »
Non payment no problem, in fact it's the only way to go.
But false plates is just fraudulent, and no plates is just plain criminal.

At least if your gonna put dummy plates on go for a good target :biggrin:
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2015, 11:19:05 am »
Indeed.

He is being charged with Fraud, not non-payment of tolls...

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2015, 11:19:32 am »
How can they prove that each time he passed a gantry it was him. 

Someone else with an I 30 did the same and used the same reg number.  ??



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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2015, 11:22:15 am »
How can they prove that each time he passed a gantry it was him

Someone else with an I 30 did the same and used the same reg number.  ??





This is going to be interesting...

It may play Scamrals hand into showing how good/bad their cameras are... the pics we used to get (when they still sent out bills) had pretty crappy quality pics on.

Unless there is some distinguishing mark on his car (sticker/dent/accessory) it may lead to reasonable doubt?
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2015, 11:28:41 am »
Just receive the proposed changes to numberplates and the embossing or manufacture thereof to be Gazetted soon after consultation with stakeholders. (Should rather be steakholders with beer in hand in this heat). Western Cape & KZN will also change to digits like other provinces. Only aluminium plates. If vehicle first registered after July 2011 plates to be riveted or one way screws.
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2015, 11:32:04 am »
I see even the Zulu King gets his own ending with ZK. Wonder what showerhead will say about that , probably also would want his own series.
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2015, 11:33:08 am »
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Western Cape & KZN will also change to digits like other provinces.

digits as in ?

will we loose CY CA etc
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2015, 11:33:49 am »
I see even the Zulu King gets his own ending with ZK. Wonder what showerhead will say about that , probably also would want his own series.

Zooma just needs to register his vehicles in the Free State, last two digits will be completely apt

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2015, 11:38:03 am »
simple case imho - guilty of fraud and liable for toll fees.

but using this to prosecute law abiding non-payers ---- sorry not the same
 

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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2015, 11:38:45 am »
Yip Western Cape and KZN to go onto same system as other provinces. The 520mm plates is running out of space. Ek dink julle teel te veel in die Kaap. Hier in KZN werk "Natural Selection" te stadig.
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Re: Fake plates lead to 1907 charges - e toll court case
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2015, 11:39:35 am »
How can they prove that each time he passed a gantry it was him.  

Someone else with an I 30 did the same and used the same reg number.  ??





They will have three pictures of him for every gantry he passed under.  High quality and very clear.  Also he was apprehended in the car with the false plates some time ago.   Even if they cannot prove all charges,  they will have proof for some.
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