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Life in New Zealand - The move has been made...
« on: April 29, 2018, 10:08:55 am »
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The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
The Potential Journey to a first world country..... (NZ Offer received!)
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The Potential Journey to a first world country..... (NZ Work VISA approved!)
Life in New Zealand - The move has been made...
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I am starting this thread to what we currently looking/doing to move to a first world country in the hopes that it can be a guide for anyone else looking to make the move.

As most of you know we recently had an armed robbery, and as it was not the cause of the idea of moving, as we investigate this 2 years ago, it was the catalyst to deciding to move now.

I will keep this thread up to date with links, ideas, what we tried, what worked and didn't work.

Currently it is called the potential as there is a lot that needs to fall into place to enable us to get out of SA, so at this point it is not a definite but definitely the plan.
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2018, 10:24:56 am »
Armed robbery - 19 March 2018 - Catalyst and final drawback making the answer a big YES to moving and leaving a country we love but don't see a future in.
Sorting out temp licenses etc and going on 2week leave.

Starting discussion and research on Canada -
After research, our points have dropped to about 350 with the EE pool being a min of 430 abouit for CRS points to get picked and get an ITA.

We, therefore, turn our attention to New Zealand (which wife and I agree why didn't we think about it in the first place) as we have 2 family friends that are in NZ now.
I am also visiting them in any case in June for a holiday to NZ so decided its a good time to also try and see some people.

Immediate residency applications are at a point level of 160 points, and we only come in at 130 points. We can obtain another 50 points for a job offer, another 5 points once living there for more then 2 years and another 20 points if working outside major areas.

We are therefore comfortable that once we there we can apply for residency and not have to return once our work visas expire.

So first step to looking to leave for any country is to get documents in place.

Checklist
Passports - DONE
ID's - DONE
unabridged birth certificates - DONE
unabridged marriage certificate - Not done - stupid DAH cant find the BI-30 form. So got a copy from our church that married us and hopefully that will resolve it)
Police clearance - DONE
Education Verifications - 1 DONE

Offical Start is thus
20 April
Applied for marriage certificates, unabridged birth certificates, passports, ID's (as they were stolen).

Left to do are sons and wife passport as they have to be physically present.
Police clearance once we have word that all is good to go.

Apply for visitors VISA to go visit friends with potential one or two interviews lined up.

Once visa approved I am heading over for 2weeks to NZ either in June or July.

COST RECORD
UPDATED  6 December 2018
Certificates (R75 per marriage/birth certificate) x 3 - R225
Passports (R600 for adult maxi and R400 for son) - R1600
In NZ professional CV and cover letter agency - $300 (R2700 out of the bank)
Toll Fees, Petrol etc to fetch passport -R500
Prelim flight book for NZ visit -R19,000 -  I am fortunate enough to have friends over there that will lodge me for the 2weeks and allow me to use of their car)
So total cost for NZ visit in June was about R25,000
R42,000 paid for the shortfall on car settlement
VISA application fee's - R3,500
Passport verification Fee - R505
Agent Fees - R15,000
My Medicals - R3,000
Wife Police Clearance - R700
Wife medicals - R3,000
Son's Medical - R1,000
One way ticket to Wellington - R11,500
Doggies shots and chips - R1,900
First months living expenses - R20,000 (roughly $2,000, split to about $1,400 for airbnb and the rest food, train tickets, etc)
Rental house deposit, first-week rent, bond and letting (R34,400) fee - $3430
NZ driver license conversion - R250 ($25) but you can drive with your SA licence for up to a year as long as its valid
AA applications - R890 ($89)
Wife Visa fee's - R3,500
Son's Visa Fee's - R2,000

TALLY - R173, 260
*car rentals etc not added as it would work the same out as our car payments so irrelevant (no extra cost)
* have started buying some new stuff for the rental house (furniture, linen etc) but its more replacement so not part of immigration cost - roughly R30,000

Upcoming immediate future expenses
Wife degree verification - $1,300


Planned expenses
R50,000 - Dogs Relocation costs - R25,000 SA side for the transport and vet seal. 2,500 NZD on NZ side for 10 day quarantine
R30,000 - Family Airticket to NZ
R40,000 - Permanent residence applications
R3,500 IELTS test for me
R3,500IELTS test for my wife


To do:
Sell car - DONE
Sell Bike - 50% DONE
Sell house -  in the market
Pack - 90% done
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2018, 07:56:08 am »
Good luck  :thumleft:
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2018, 08:16:55 am »
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2018, 10:20:49 am »
Update from the weekend....

I am winging it with a CV template i found on the net and applied for about 10 Jobs so far until i get my professional CV from the lady in NZ.

On the facebook page (will share links later when not at work) i have a lead for a potential job and have a 22h00 call tonight with an agent.

Quotes received for doggies:
R25,000 Transport Fees
R5,000 Vet fees and Vet seal.
$1,400 or roughly R14,000 for 10 day quarantine NZ side.

Total R45,000 to take 2 x pugs over  :patch:

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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2018, 10:24:21 am »
Armed robbery - 19 March 2018 - Catalyst and final drawback making the answer a big YES to moving and leaving a country we love but don't see a future in.
Sorting out temp licenses etc and going on 2week leave.

Starting discussion and research on Canada -
After research, our points have dropped to about 350 with the EE pool being a min of 430 abouit for CRS points to get picked and get an ITA.

We, therefore, turn our attention to New Zealand (which wife and I agree why didn't we think about it in the first place) as we have 2 family friends that are in NZ now.

Immediate residency applications are at a point level of 160 points, and we only come in at 130 points. We can obtain another 50 points for a job offer, another 5 points once living there for more then 2 years and another 20 points if working outside major areas.

We are therefore comfortable that once we there we can apply for residency and not have to return once our work visas expire.

So first step to looking to leave for any country is to get documents in place.

Checklist
Passports
ID's
unabridged birth certificates
unabridged marriage certificate
Police clearance
Education Verifications

Offical Start is thus
20 April
Applied for marriage certificates, unabridged birth certificates, passports, ID's (as they were stolen).

Left to do are sons and wife passport as they have to be physically present.
Police clearance once we have word that all is good to go.

Apply for visitors VISA to go visit friends with potential one or two interviews lined up.

Once visa approved I am heading over for 2weeks to NZ either in June or July.

COST RECORD
Certificates (R75 per marriage/birth certificate) x 3 - R225
Passports (R600 for adult maxi and R400 for son) - R1600
In NZ professional CV and cover letter agency - $300 (R2700 out of the bank)

Upcoming immediate future expenses
Wife degree verification - $1,300
Air ticket to NZ - R15,000 - I am fortunate enough to have friends over there that will lodge me for the 2weeks and allow me to use of their car)
Police clearance x 2 - R200
Visa application - $150
International driver license - $25
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 10:33:21 am »
Armed robbery - 19 March 2018 - Catalyst and final drawback making the answer a big YES to moving and leaving a country we love but don't see a future in.
Sorting out temp licenses etc and going on 2week leave.

Starting discussion and research on Canada -
After research, our points have dropped to about 350 with the EE pool being a min of 430 abouit for CRS points to get picked and get an ITA.

We, therefore, turn our attention to New Zealand (which wife and I agree why didn't we think about it in the first place) as we have 2 family friends that are in NZ now.

Immediate residency applications are at a point level of 160 points, and we only come in at 130 points. We can obtain another 50 points for a job offer, another 5 points once living there for more then 2 years and another 20 points if working outside major areas.

We are therefore comfortable that once we there we can apply for residency and not have to return once our work visas expire.

So first step to looking to leave for any country is to get documents in place.

Checklist
Passports
ID's
unabridged birth certificates
unabridged marriage certificate
Police clearance
Education Verifications

Offical Start is thus
20 April
Applied for marriage certificates, unabridged birth certificates, passports, ID's (as they were stolen).

Left to do are sons and wife passport as they have to be physically present.
Police clearance once we have word that all is good to go.

Apply for visitors VISA to go visit friends with potential one or two interviews lined up.

Once visa approved I am heading over for 2weeks to NZ either in June or July.

COST RECORD
Certificates (R75 per marriage/birth certificate) x 3 - R225
Passports (R600 for adult maxi and R400 for son) - R1600
In NZ professional CV and cover letter agency - $300 (R2700 out of the bank)

Upcoming immediate future expenses
Wife degree verification - $1,300
Air ticket to NZ - R15,000 - I am fortunate enough to have friends over there that will lodge me for the 2weeks and allow me to use of their car)
Police clearance x 2 - R200
Visa application - $150
International driver license - $25
If you need a place to stay in Christchurch pm me.

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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 12:59:01 pm »
What kind of positions are you looking for? An ex-colleague is flying with his family to NZ in 3 weeks' time. Got a job in Hamilton, apparently they're very busy with Internet of Things and automation there and he says they're looking for more IT people (software devs etc)
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 01:14:54 pm »
What kind of positions are you looking for? An ex-colleague is flying with his family to NZ in 3 weeks' time. Got a job in Hamilton, apparently they're very busy with Internet of Things and automation there and he says they're looking for more IT people (software devs etc)

Hi Ri

thanks for the heads up. I am in Commercial Property management at the moment... I do software development in my spare time only  :lamer:
 

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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 03:39:54 pm »
Good luck. Sad to say it’s becoming very very common.

Everything will fall into place if you want it too. Not always easy but if you have young children it’s always worth it.
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2018, 04:28:51 pm »
good luck  man ,

it is an amazing thing you are doing for you and your family
well done
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2018, 04:36:26 pm »
good luck  man ,

it is an amazing thing you are doing for you and your family
well done
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2018, 05:06:00 pm »
good luck  man ,

it is an amazing thing you are doing for you and your family
well done
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 me too hey

would love to live where the hard working do not get ostracized , and where the crime is but a mozzie bite


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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2018, 07:57:24 am »
good luck  man ,

it is an amazing thing you are doing for you and your family
well done
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+1000

Wish I could look at something like that

I am also wishing....wishing HARD! need to get a job offer first before we can move.

UPDATE:
Had two calls with agencies in NZ late at night (their morning time). One from Christchurch basically said she wont hold her breath as property work in her location at the moment is scarce but I must try Auckland and Wellington .

Second agent actually tried to phone me but couldnt get through and send me a mail - spoke to her this morning and said i must Definitely come see her when i am in NZ.

Then went to collect passport on Monday at home affairs but systems were offline  >:( So got couriers now to do it for me.

Once passport received, the Visa application will go in to go visit in June
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Re: The Potential Journey to a first world country.....
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 08:41:51 am »
Good luck with everything. I hope things turn out as you would like them to.

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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2018, 02:11:24 pm »
Start of a whole new future!

By the way, Would I, on the forum leaves tonight for NZ. His wife already there. In Tauranga. You should keep in touch with him for advice if you need.
 

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2018, 06:47:26 pm »
So after confirming with home affairs and couriers that collecting of passports with authorization letter and copy of identification is allowed, they turned the couriers away today  :dousing: FFS

So tomorrow morning first thing its me and the road to bronkies again to get my passport...hopefully.

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2018, 08:08:49 pm »
Thank you for the nice lay out of events and costs. Well worth it i believe, Good luck job hunting  :thumleft:
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2018, 07:46:26 am »
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2018, 08:55:40 am »
On my way to bronkies to collect passport

Atleast I get a nice bike ride out of it... Maybe a detour?  :ricky:

But first... Coffee... It's showing 7'C