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Suzuki Djebel 250XC, DR250RS and DRZ250 - Official Thread
« on: January 28, 2009, 11:29:52 am »
    Seeing that more and more WD members are acquiring these bikes, this thread is to function as the exchange of ideas and technical queries.  The following models are relevant, being basically just different versions of the same bike:



  • Suzuki Djebel 250XC
  • Suzuki DR 250RS
  • Suzuki DRZ 250

External relevant links:
Some other reference links already in existence on the WD form:

Djebel 250 XC:  Abbreviated specifications:

Overall Length:2,230 mm
Overall Width:885 mm
Overall Height:1,220 mm
Wheelbase:1,450 mm
Seat height:adjustable, lowest setting 885 mm
Fuel capacity:17.00 litres
Dry Weight:118 kg
Engine type:4-stroke, 249 cc single cylinder, DOHC, 4 valves
Cooling system:Air and external oil cooler
Power:29.50 HP (21.5 kW)) @ 8500 RPM
Torque:27.00 Nm (2.8 kgf-m or 19.9 ft.lbs) @ 7000 RPM
Starter:Electric & kick
Brakes:Front and back, single disc
Tyres:Front 3.0-21  Back 4.6-18

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 11:30:34 am »
 :thumleft:
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 11:41:07 am »
I had two DR 250's. Not Djebels although the one had a Djebel tank.



It was sold to Major Tom and then to HHHusky. Great little bikes and really bulletproof, had no problems with either of them. Did a couple of long trips and they cope fine.
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 12:19:45 pm »
In action ....  :mwink:
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2009, 01:52:41 pm »
Added very interesting link to the Internet Djebel Owners Club.  Although mostly in Japanese, it has a host of other links to Djebel related sites, especially under the DJEBELer's WebPages (members own sites)  :mwink:
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 11:24:47 am »
Just a bit of useless info.....


Walked into Suzuki South and enquired about parts.  The friendly parts salesman pulled out a catalogue and told me he can order any part that I want , just requires a deposit and he can deliver in 3 weeks.
Not bad I would say............especially since it is a grey import bike.


Now the best part....
I ask him for prices for the HUGE headlight and also the fueltanks.

Prices:

Just headlight(without frame around it) R 2500
Fueltank : R 8500
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 11:59:33 am »
Just a bit of useless info.....


Walked into Suzuki South and enquired about parts.  The friendly parts salesman pulled out a catalogue and told me he can order any part that I want , just requires a deposit and he can deliver in 3 weeks.
Not bad I would say............especially since it is a grey import bike.


Now the best part....
I ask him for prices for the HUGE headlight and also the fueltanks.

Prices:

Just headlight(without frame around it) R 2500
Fueltank : R 8500

 :o :o :o :o

Terloops, Track&Tar Motorcycles (wat al verskeie Djebels ingevoer het) het ook 'n direkte lyn na Japan om parte self in te bring.  Sal 'n bietjie uitvind wat kos dit om nie deur Suzuki te werk nie.  Met die laaste invoer het hulle 'n volledige Djebel, net sonder 'n enjin, juis ingevoer om as parte bron te dien.
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 02:58:12 pm »
Just a bit of useless info.....


Walked into Suzuki South and enquired about parts.  The friendly parts salesman pulled out a catalogue and told me he can order any part that I want , just requires a deposit and he can deliver in 3 weeks.
Not bad I would say............especially since it is a grey import bike.


Now the best part....
I ask him for prices for the HUGE headlight and also the fueltanks.

Prices:

Just headlight(without frame around it) R 2500
Fueltank : R 8500

Holy shirt!

justgastanks.com:
DR250
Clark tank $195
IMS tank $242
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 03:02:54 pm »
The standard Djebel 250 XC tank is 17 liters.


If I damage the tank, I would negotiate a cash settlement from the insurer and definitely go and buy a plastic tank. :thumleft:
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 05:07:48 pm »
The standard Djebel 250 XC tank is 17 liters.


If I damage the tank, I would negotiate a cash settlement from the insurer and definitely go and buy a plastic tank. :thumleft:

These are 4.2US gal = 15.9L
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2009, 10:19:14 am »
Does anyone in South Africa actually have a Djebel 250 workshop manual?

I mean the real thing, not using DR350 or DRZ400 manuals as substitutes

:-\

I've researched the valve clearances for the Djebel XC a while ago and found 0.10 - 0.15 IN and 0.20 - 0.25 EX (makes sense).
Checked some Japanese Babelfish translated stuff and it says 0.08 - 0.13 IN and EX (does not really make sense)

:-\

What torque do the cylinder head bolts need? Should I do 40Nm as on the rather different DR350 or 46Nm as on the kind of but not quite similar DRZ400. Interpolate ??? Order a R1k workshop manual from Suzuki once they decide to be available again. (Last order was for a DR200SE, factory back order, six weeks :o )

After the Djebel XC received a lot of praise please note the following:
Older models (90's) seem to develop problems with valve stem seals hardening up leading to high oil consumption.
Exhaust valves seem to wear fast.
Timing chains wear quickly too, same as DRZ.
Both timing chain and valve problems might be related to excessively hard riding style. Remember, it's not a 650!
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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 11:23:31 am »
The Djebel 250 XC is a special edition of the DRZ250...................the only difference is the big fueltank and the headlight................so the specs of the DRZ250 would be the same as the Djebel 250 XC
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 11:57:24 am »
The Djebel 250 XC is a special edition of the DRZ250...................the only difference is the big fueltank and the headlight................so the specs of the DRZ250 would be the same as the Djebel 250 XC

Operator hoekom praat jy so aan-af aan-af? Is jy dalk besig om jouself te kalmeer ???

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2010, 12:04:28 pm »
Does anyone in South Africa actually have a Djebel 250 workshop manual?

I've researched the valve clearances for the Djebel XC a while ago and found 0.10 - 0.15 IN and 0.20 - 0.25 EX (makes sense).

What torque do the cylinder head bolts need? Should I do 40Nm as on the rather different DR350 or 46Nm as on the kind of but not quite similar DRZ400......


I submitted the above requests to Thumper Talk (http://www.thumpertalk.com) and got the following answer:

My questions:
I need to be 100% clear on the valve clearances for the DRZ250. I have been informed 0.10 - 0.15 IN and 0.20 - 0.25 EX. Can anyone please confirm these settings.

Also, what torque do the cylinder head bolts need? Should I do 40Nm? Any info would be appreciated.

The answers
Those valve settings are correct in millimetres. Inch settings are intake .0039" to .0079", exhaust .0079" to .0118 ".

Cylinder head bolt torque per manual:
10mm bolts 25 NM (18 lb.ft.) initially, 42 NM (30.5 lb.ft.) final. The 6 mm bolts
10 NM (7.0 lb. ft.). Cylinder base nuts 10 NM (7.0 lb. ft.) Cylinder bolt also 10 NM. Hope this helps.

 
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2010, 12:15:12 pm »
Lecap! Are you still busy with that 250!?
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2010, 12:21:51 pm »
Lecap! Are you still busy with that 250!?

I'm picking it up this afternoon.  :mwink:
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2010, 12:30:46 pm »
Goeie werk!
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2010, 09:11:03 am »
Quoted from above:
My questions:
I need to be 100% clear on the valve clearances for the DRZ250. I have been informed 0.10 - 0.15 IN and 0.20 - 0.25 EX. Can anyone please confirm these settings.
The answers
Those valve settings are correct in millimetres. Inch settings are intake .0039" to .0079", exhaust .0079" to .0118 ".

Means in the SI universe your Djebel must have valve clearances 0.10 - 0.15mm IN and 0.20 - 0.25mm EX and in the Imperial universe 0.10 - 0.20mm and 0.20 - 0.30mm

Fark!

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC Official Thread
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2010, 11:03:39 am »
Picked up this one yesterday for Ba. She is chuffed as ... as that guy that got pushed in front of the Steam Loco  :) The poor girl canít even properly balance a tricycle.  >:D





Definitely a grey (second hand import) model, believed to be around a 2002 model according to the previous owner. Paid 10k.

Iím not technical and have noticed the following compared to the previous posts:
ē   Itís a. DR250S as mentioned by Sidetrack. What is difference between R and S or for that matter al of them?
ē   Height Control. Is this only to compensate for short to tall riders or is there other logic?
ē   Upside down fork (other technical name please?) which is not shown previously. Could this be a mod? And what is the logic again?
ē   What oil filler is in front of the petrol tank?
ē   According to previous owner it at least reaches 100km/h. Surely it should do more? Maybe in need of a major service and what mods would improve performance?
ē   Have I paid too much for the 21k kilometers done?


Havenít done any other inspections yet except when taking him (its going to be a girlís bike) home, I note the short gear ratios and maybe a bit sluggish. On other hand Iím used to a 650.
 

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Re: Suzuki Djebel 250XC, DR250R and DRZ250 - Official Thread
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2010, 12:18:54 pm »
Oiy.  Mister Operator!      WTF is this .....  is the Djebel now not good enough any more ?




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