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Offline Etienne2T

2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« on: March 09, 2010, 06:05:29 pm »
What are the options?
TM300?
KTM300
KDX200?

YZ/WR250

That's all hey?
 

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 06:19:22 pm »
New today.

KTM 125 , 250 and 300
Gas Gas 250 and 300
The Yamaha would be a YZ250 with conversion but seeing as they do this on the premises it can be called new factory. YZ125 is also good.
TM 125, 250 300

If I was you I would get a cheap 2nd hand TM125 and kick some serious ass.  They are awesome bikes that didn't hold their value and can be picked up for a bargain.

 

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 06:23:15 pm »
I've been looking at the TM's , I need something with cheap parts though.

How's tm's parts prices>?
 

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 08:27:45 am »
The KTM and Gas Gas 200's too.

They are probably the best enduro bikes on the planet.


TM's are not so pricey with parts but availability is the problem.
Same as components as KTM for the majority, the motor parts are available.


Thinking about your size and ambitions the KTM200 is the winner outright.
Ask Splash about it.
 

Offline edgy

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 08:29:49 am »
Agree on the KTM 200!
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Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 11:15:39 am »
I would like to stay away from ktm, just because of parts prices.
I can get a road worthy TM300 for a good price. They come standard with ohlins suspension!
Will it be abit of a piggy on a mx track?
 

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 11:24:32 am »
ktm parts are not that bad..re-build whole gear-box..with selector forks and big end bearing on a ktm 200 for under 3k

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 11:26:15 am »
A top end rebuild is common on a 2t, what is replaced in such a build normally
 

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 11:26:56 am »
also depends on how much you weigh! Also thinking of getting another plastic bike..really like the ktm300...but costly, the new model is fantastic..power..weight etc, buy if you going 2nd hand and are used to a 4-strole wr250 nice too!

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 11:31:11 am »
A top end rebuild is just a piston, rings and top end bearing.
 

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 11:37:25 am »
Shark, your opinion on this?
One question, will a kdx be up to mx riding, tabletops etc.
I can get this for 30k, road legal and all

2007 model KDX 200 (built in 06 bit only sold and reg in 07)
Full FMF exhaust (and brand new unused standard exhaust)
Complete KX plastics kit (rear fender and front number board) and new unused original KDC plastics
Booysens performace reed valves (and standard unused reed valves)
Oversize jet in carb to correctly fuel the above mods (and standard jet)
Full Hyde protection kit - sump and exhaust guard, front brake disc and fork guard, frame guards and rear brake and swing arm guards
Performance air filter ( and standard filter)
Polisport hand guards (with aluminium reinforcements)
Spare front excel 21" rim
Licensed and registered on Natis

and the best mod of all

Suspension completely rebuilt and sorted just last week by MP Custom Valve (Martin Paetzold) at acost of R4000
 

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 11:50:00 am »
As soon as you put MX into the picture, no.
I don't think you can do enough for the bike to handle the really big jumps.

It will make an awesome enduro weapon though. How good are you at MX anyway?
 

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 12:02:42 pm »
Im new at it, but really like catching airtime, and would like to improve in it.
Thats why i like the yz with wr box
 

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 12:41:32 pm »
It will always be a trade off.
You will want to revalve the YZ shocks for enduro anyway.

YZ250 with only the changed box will be best for you then.
Even a KTM200 will not be ideal.
 

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 12:43:39 pm »
How much is a proper mx bike supposed to weight?
The tm is 98kgs, hows that sound?
 

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2010, 12:47:39 pm »
etienne you are doing it again

exactly what you did with the drz 400

you are compromising

if you want to enduro like the thread title say get a full on enduro bike if you want to mx get the full mx bike

if you go half/half you are going to have a bike that sucks at both
 

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2010, 12:54:10 pm »
Shark, the guy from TM tells me that for a top end rebuild, you are not tied to the agents, u can get a piston etc from wiseco etc.
Is zees true?
 

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2010, 12:56:35 pm »
Yes, depends if Wiseco stocks that size.
The parts are not special apart for things like engine casings and radiators.

Service parts can be gotten anywhere.

But OEM performance parts can cost.

Example of Kawasaki vs Wiseco Topend rebuild = R1300 vs R2400
 

Offline Etienne2T

Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2010, 01:15:31 pm »
So kawa parts is cheaper than wiseco's?
 

shark_za

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Re: 2 Stroke Enduro bikes
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2010, 01:22:07 pm »
For sure.
Wiseco are usually "performance" parts.

You can get pistons for the TM, get the specs and actually try today.
Phone some suppliers are see what they cost.