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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2012, 10:57:44 pm »
Why not second hand dAkar? The sertao (sp?) seems like a lotta bucks for a facelift dakar though so iwouldnt go there. X challnge going for low prices nowadays for great scoot.
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 08:14:55 am »
bullshit aside,  if i was in the market for a reasonably priced 650,
i'd go for the honda XR650L.
excellent value for money,
best stock suspension,  ground clearance,  18" rear wheel - loads more tyre options,  simple reliable motor,  and it's a honda.
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 08:23:24 am »
It is a Brazilian Honda, and you cannot compare it to a Japanese Suzuki. If Honda had the 650L built in China it would cost around R38000 new. Now I wonder why the BMW's are so expensive? :mwink:
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 08:30:52 am »
XT for shizzz! Of KLR maar as hy eers die XT gery het gaan hy verstaan.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2012, 08:31:20 am »
The only down side to the DR is the fuel tank, or lack thereof, which ofcourse can be sorted out quickly.

What size tank has the KLR got?
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2012, 08:40:20 am »
What size tank has the KLR got?

23 litre on the KLR,  and iirc 13 on the sazook.
the IMS for the sazook is 19l and costs approx 3 grand.
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2012, 08:42:01 am »
The only down side to the DR is the fuel tank, or lack thereof, which ofcourse can be sorted out quickly.

What size tank has the KLR got?

Comes standard with a 22L tank - 350 - 400km range depending riding style. I got avarage of 18 - 20km/L on the KLR
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 08:53:33 am »
I just sold my KLR about 3 weeks ago. It had just short of 85000km on the clocks and was an 09 model. Had no issues with it. I miss it to be honest. It is a smooth ride, on or off road, cheap to maintain, cheap tires as well. R60000 brand new, infact my brother's KLR is for sale at Mean Machine for R39900 08 model with crash bars and just short of 18000km on it.
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 08:54:08 am »
I would still choose the zook, but the KLR has a lot to offer for the money.
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 08:54:24 am »
Comes standard with a 22L tank - 350 - 400km range depending riding style. I got avarage of 18 - 20km/L on the KLR

wiki says 23l: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650
kawasaki sa say 22.1: http://www.kawasaki.co.za/details.php?category_id=1&products_id=87#specs

i got similar mileage on a tank.
 

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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2012, 08:55:48 am »
At the end of the day they are all good bikes , all have their pro's and con's , perhaps the potential buyer should test all of them and then decide .
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2012, 09:05:07 am »
At the end of the day they are all good bikes , all have their pro's and con's , perhaps the potential buyer should test all of them and then decide .

Amen to that  :3some:
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2012, 09:37:54 am »
I agree with Dux, have a look at all of them and narrow it down from there, at the end of the day it's about personal choice of the person who will be spending time in the saddle. If buying new, then the proximity of the Dealer also plays a role (including their attitude/service level).

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2012, 09:57:03 am »
40km one way gives you 80 plus the farm visits add up to 100km+ per day. For that you need a little bit of comfort as well. The Suz is excellent but no wind protection and a very hard seat....I would rather opt for the XT66R if money is not a problem, otherwise the KLR. The new KLR's have no issues - doo sorted, bad machining of barrel sorted so no oil burning and worries

have you owned a klr & ?
the seat is not much better,  in fact i prefer the seating on the DR to the KLR.
what about the KLR's subframe???
it's pathetic suspension in comparison to the DR (both stock are,  hmmm,  well,  not good)???
every nut and bolt on the DR is of better quality,
just about everything is a better design.
having owned a KLR for 75000km and a DR for 47000km,
i feel qualified to say: the KLR is the more spoken about,  
and the DR is the better (out the box)...

I trained him well :D

Also would advise on DR as first choice.
Needs very little mods or add ons for the intended job.

The DR mill easily exceeds 100,000km without requiring major work. (Mrs. LeCap's currently approaches 110,000km and does not use significant amounts of oil between services.

It is very cheap to maintain.

A 40 km commute should not take you more than  three quarters of an hour. Less if it's open road with not much traffic. A comfortable seat is not a requirement at all. You can sit on an SA pine plank for that amount of time. Unless you want to speed on tar roads & freeways you won't need no windscreen either.

I'm not a big fan of the XR650L if compared to the DR650SE.
The Suzuki has the (slightly) more advanced and definitely longer lasting engine, it's less of a handful if you're "less than tall" thanks to its lower seat and it even has further build in lowering potential (without castrating the bike by fitting footlong suspension links) and it's fitted with a state of the art front brake.
The OEM tank of the XR is even  smaller than the DR's and the Honda is rather thirsty.

The only real world advantage of the KLR over the DR is the Kawasaki can take an adult passenger.

My sentiment towards the Yamaha 660's hasn't changed: IMHO they are 15kg too heavy & R15,000 too expensive. You may call that value for money :evil6:
« Last Edit: June 29, 2012, 09:59:49 am by lecap »
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2012, 09:57:13 am »
If you want reliability and good re-sale value get a Honda... :thumleft:
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2012, 10:10:02 am »
If you want reliability and good re-sale value get a Honda... :thumleft:

I bought my KLR in November 2010 and it had 55000km on the clocks. I paid R39000 for it from the dealer. Sold it 3 weeks ok with just under 85000km on it and sold it for R39900...
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2012, 10:12:15 am »
Wee Strom, Wee Strom bargain 2nd hand, comfortable, fast, fuel efficient, reliable and good wind protection O0
 

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2012, 01:00:02 pm »
If you want reliability and good re-sale value get a Honda... :thumleft:

I bought my KLR in November 2010 and it had 55000km on the clocks. I paid R39000 for it from the dealer. Sold it 3 weeks ok with just under 85000km on it and sold it for R39900...

You sold a KLR with 8500okm on the clock for R39k.. poor oke.
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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2012, 01:42:31 pm »
30,000km in three weeks. That's an average of 60km/h not counting sleeping, eating, bathroom, and topping up the KLR's oil.

Respect! :D

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Re: Wich 650: Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2012, 03:03:52 pm »
My Toppie het 'n 3de handse DR650 gekoop as 'n ligter en 2de bike. 2008 model......23 000kms...goeie service gehad en die ding loop soos stroop. 25k all and all. FMF pyp op en amper spotless.

Ek weet jy het gese hy wil nuut koop maar dit is nie altyd nodig nie......as jy weet wat jy/hy wil he en wakker is kry jy bargains...veral in die winter.

KLR kan ook werk....maar ek dink die Suzie het minder goed om na te kyk en kan alles en nog meer doen as wat jy ooit sou kon dink!  :deal:

Sterkte met die besluit......al die fietse wat jy genoem het is goeie keuses.  :thumleft:



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