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Offline KaTooMatt

Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #200 on: July 04, 2012, 02:56:03 pm »

his life insurance will pay out, no doubt. The bike insurance might have an issue

Depending on the fine print  :(

Standing on the bridge a while back with the guys from Think Bike - they were getting really upset with the number of bikers in the EL - just about climbed over the rail to shout at them and point for them to move back into the traffic ... Their comments were pretty much - Medical aid - Life Insurance and bike insurance have fine print that can be to your detriments if it is proved the accident could have been avoided if you were obeying the rules of the road (Speed, overtaking on a white line, riding in the EL etc.)


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I complained about the Think Bikers hurtling past me in the EL about a year ago. I find your post interesting. After watching this for months I decided to join them and I have to admit it made the commute a lot less stressful. Now you say they are opposed to riding here.

It show handing stickers out just gets the wrong message out there. Most of the riders that pass me with the Think Bike stickers on are the ones that scare me the most. I feel they should be more considerate if the want the motorists consideration.
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #201 on: July 04, 2012, 06:58:32 pm »
I think that riding in the EL is good for bikers and it should become legal to do so as they would not pose a blockage to emergency vehicles. Overall the risks would be less that riding in mainstream traffic.
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #202 on: July 04, 2012, 07:25:10 pm »

his life insurance will pay out, no doubt. The bike insurance might have an issue

Depending on the fine print  :(

Standing on the bridge a while back with the guys from Think Bike - they were getting really upset with the number of bikers in the EL - just about climbed over the rail to shout at them and point for them to move back into the traffic ... Their comments were pretty much - Medical aid - Life Insurance and bike insurance have fine print that can be to your detriments if it is proved the accident could have been avoided if you were obeying the rules of the road (Speed, overtaking on a white line, riding in the EL etc.)



I complained about the Think Bikers hurtling past me in the EL about a year ago. I find your post interesting. After watching this for months I decided to join them and I have to admit it made the commute a lot less stressful. Now you say they are opposed to riding here.

It show handing stickers out just gets the wrong message out there. Most of the riders that pass me with the Think Bike stickers on are the ones that scare me the most. I feel they should be more considerate if the want the motorists consideration.
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Hi KaTooMat,

Please bear in mind that ThinkBike most stickers are handed out for free and the reflective bibs can be bought at a lot of bike shops.

There are people living by what Thinkbike stands for and there are those that just got stickers and bought the bib. The active Thinkbikers are the ones that does a lot of work creating awareness and educating all (cagers and bikers alike) Unfortuanately some of those just wearing the bibs do a lot of damage to the good work done by the true supporters.

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #203 on: July 04, 2012, 08:23:23 pm »
I think that riding in the EL is good for bikers and it should become legal to do so as they would not pose a blockage to emergency vehicles. Overall the risks would be less that riding in mainstream traffic.

Riding in the EL only in peak traffic hours and maximum speed 70km/h.
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #204 on: July 04, 2012, 08:25:44 pm »
Or you could just learn to ride your bike on the road properly like the rest of us
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #205 on: July 04, 2012, 08:26:54 pm »
Wanna race?  :biggrin:
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« Reply #206 on: July 04, 2012, 08:29:33 pm »
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #207 on: July 04, 2012, 08:34:51 pm »
Or you could just learn to ride your bike on the road properly like the rest of us

 By the way Dwerg, what do you think is wrong with my suggestion?
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #208 on: July 04, 2012, 08:42:42 pm »
Or you could just learn to ride your bike on the road properly like the rest of us

 By the way Dwerg, what do you think is wrong with my suggestion?

Why should bikers get preferential treatment?
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #209 on: July 04, 2012, 08:46:50 pm »
Ah dude I'm afraid that's a kak answer.
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #210 on: July 04, 2012, 08:48:29 pm »
Ah dude I'm afraid that's a kak answer.

Ok then  :thumleft:
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #211 on: July 04, 2012, 08:49:44 pm »
Ai Dwerg, as dit nie Danie is nie, dan loop iemand anders deur...  :peepwall:

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #212 on: July 04, 2012, 08:52:27 pm »
Ai Dwerg, as dit nie Danie is nie, dan loop iemand anders deur...  :peepwall:

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #213 on: July 04, 2012, 08:56:53 pm »
Or you could just learn to ride your bike on the road properly like the rest of us

 By the way Dwerg, what do you think is wrong with my suggestion?

Why should bikers get preferential treatment?

Geez, Dwerg, as a biker you are getting preferential treatment already. Cars are not allowed to lane split.
Dwerg, watch it, you are turning into 2strokeDan, the argumentative man :imaposer:
 

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #214 on: July 04, 2012, 09:07:39 pm »
Although I sometimes try splitting in the car if I havent driven it for a while
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #215 on: July 04, 2012, 09:19:46 pm »
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Or you could just learn to ride your bike on the road properly like the rest of us

 By the way Dwerg, what do you think is wrong with my suggestion?

 :thumleft: makes sense, bikers in the EL  :thumleft: taxis in the yellow lane  :thumleft: cagers allowed to BBM in the fast lane as long as they make way for the blue light brigade  :thumleft:

 

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #216 on: July 04, 2012, 09:23:22 pm »
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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #217 on: July 05, 2012, 07:13:04 am »
I would say rather to start educating the biking fraternity on safe and responsible riding than a show of force in Friday morning traffic.

Sure, how better to educate than to lead by example?
ER24 have offered their pics collection ... but will gory pics really have ANY effect? The accident occured around 8am, which means that most of the daily commuters had passed already, and by tuesday morning the debris had been magically removed. They don't even know anything happened.

Yes, leading by example is but one aspect. But another avenue of erecting bill-boards to get the message across, working with the authorities to police those lanes. Don't get me wrong, but Think Bike is seen as the voice for us bikers, they have the name to go out and speak to the authorities to get permissions for billboards and signs. A couple of stickers and banners is not going to reduce the amount of bikers riding there.

Use those pics that ER24 is making available to you, together with your media partner and errect some really strong messaged bill boards and signs. Get JMPD involved to participate in a Think Bike, Safety Drive on a Friday.

May not resolve the issue altogether, but will bring across a strong message.
 

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #218 on: July 05, 2012, 07:23:21 am »
Lots of pro and con arguments going on here,just like on previous threads.

In short, until ALL South Africans do not start obeying the law, and respecting the law and each other on the road, and the law makes "themselfes" respectable, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

Bring in the new laws, the fancy camera systems on the N1, the traffic lights on the offramps - IT WILL NOT WORK, because nobody even respects the older laws that we all grew up with and are still in place.

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Re: Fatal accident near malibongwe
« Reply #219 on: July 05, 2012, 07:40:37 am »
Although I sometimes try splitting in the car if I havent driven it for a while


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