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Offline vigilant

Inappropriate machines
« on: October 17, 2012, 03:50:16 pm »
I have to be clear that i've only had a few months with a 125 on/off thing, and have never been more than 1 km or so on dirt, i'm here to learn until i get another chance to try.

So i was reading the thread on Namibian sand roads, all very nice and all, until Subie comes along and tells about his "Posty" and how he rode it all over the place.



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Now the constant theme in that thread was keep under 80 (for newbs) and take it slow. I've recently got my hands on a Suz gn250, nice little runabout, which i keep staring at blankly wondering how to magic it into a scrambler, kind of like cinder's pumpkin.

Now i'm all for learning, so if a 250 GN is all i have got, then a 250 GN is what i must use. So, where do i start? And how do i prevent myself becoming a campfire story to warn other newbs?

I'm not interested in speed, it's about getting home, i think my biggest fear is getting stuck in mud or sand? Is it worth it to just go out and find a dirt road? Or am i jagging kak aan?
« Last Edit: October 17, 2012, 03:51:33 pm by vigilant »
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 05:33:35 pm »
Well this is the thing with modern advertising - they convince you that you need an off-road bike to ride offroad. Your GN250 will handle most dirt roads without a problem, just stay away from the loose stuff and dont use your front brake hard. I used to ride all over the East London area's dirt roads on a stock Honda 350 back in the 70's because we didn't have specific "adventure" bikes then, every bike was an adventure bike. Most bikes had 19 inch front wheels and 18 inch back wheels.

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 05:59:58 pm »
This was my 'adventure' bike with which I travelled all over the Klein Karoo in the mid-eighties
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 06:34:20 pm »
Smaak the boots  :thumleft:
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 08:13:35 pm »
Why the hell not??

Bit more agro tyres for bit better traction and some sort of little bash plate to protect rocks flinging up and farking up your cooling fins
I'm not saying kill stupid people, I'm saying, remove the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 09:12:40 pm »
The GN250 is a fine machine.  In most of Africa it would be considered a big capable cruiser.

Oh, and it's really difficult to get stuck unless you do something incredibly risky or stupid.
 

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 10:41:58 pm »
Friend of mine travelled with ZERO biking experience on a little 180cc pharmacy bike from Scotland, through Europe, then Asia, then down through Africa and then through the Americas. That bike should do just fine :)
 

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 05:27:13 am »
This was my 'adventure' bike with which I travelled all over the Klein Karoo in the mid-eighties

My Mom had a CB400T same color, and I can tell that those things go well on dirt roads, I have seen off a mate on an XT500 on one of those on a good dirt road! I did know the road better than him though.
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 08:16:31 am »
On that GN250 I would just look into ways of raising the front mudguard a bit. This would allow for a more aggresive tyre but more importantly will prevent excessive mud build up in case you do encounter the wet stuff. Mud build up is one of the main issues as this results in a locked front wheel and no more travelling.

Another thing to add, seeing as a bashplate was mentioned, an option would be to add a mudflap at the back of the front mudguard as this will prevent stones being flung into the bike. A old piece of conveyor belt works well.

Then go and ride, apply some common sense and always let someone know in which direction you are heading.
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 08:21:44 am »
wel, verlede jaar het die Steyn couple met die Moto Mia 'Pachinos tot in Kairo gery. En hulle bikes was Chinese ripp-offs van juis hierdie Suzuki.

Masterparts in Bellville gebruik geen ander bike as hierdie GN 250 nie, al vir solank as wat ek kan onthou nie.

ek het ook al geleer, as jy versigtig is, kan jy nogal baie ver kom, maak nie te veel saak waarmee nie
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 08:47:02 am »
Ag lekker!

Thanks for the encouragement, i'll definitely be looking for some dirt roads soon then. Is it worth joining up with some of the dogs who ride out from the westrand or should i set my sights a bit lower?

I've looked at google earth a bit, where's a good newb start point?










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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 10:11:48 am »
This was my 'adventure' bike with which I travelled all over the Klein Karoo in the mid-eighties


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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 10:17:59 am »
Just go do it.
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 There are also quite a few outrides that get advertised on this forum. Go do them.

Nobody worries what is ridden as long as you are riding.

If you get stuck in sand or mud... well that is where the fun starts. In fact you could have more fun than others as your bike is light.

There is also a section of gps routes for outrides, download and go.

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 03:13:34 pm »
Nothing like saddle time and tips from riding mates to help you out....... then invest in some training later on like ADA etc.......well worth the money :thumleft:
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 04:04:05 pm »
Do it  -   and write one hell of a Ride Report!   
 

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 04:09:47 pm »
Ted Simon rode over 100,000km around the world on a Triumph T100 500cc back in 1971. He rode from Cairo to Cape Town, from South America to North America, across Australia and through Asia. It can be done -easily. His comfortable speed was 80km/h though...
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2012, 11:23:25 am »
My boet just did a 3600km ride through Australian out-back on a 110 Honda Posty for charity, over 10 days.
 

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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 11:35:15 am »
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Re: Inappropriate machines
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 11:36:34 am »
This was my 'adventure' bike with which I travelled all over the Klein Karoo in the mid-eighties

My Mom had a CB400T same color, and I can tell that those things go well on dirt roads, I have seen off a mate on an XT500 on one of those on a good dirt road! I did know the road better than him though.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2012, 12:01:16 pm »
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