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Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« on: October 21, 2012, 12:33:12 am »
i am looking at expanding the collection a bit, and the north american BMW websites are starting to advertise the new R 1200 GS. it seems it is coming in 3 "variants" - touring, dynamic and off road, so  there is quite a difference in options and setups.  It seems you will have a more "specific configuration" in stead of a good all round bike.
It looks they are trying to get rid of the "old" model 1200 gs's and there are good deals at the moment. Will it still hold its re-sale value once the new model hit the street? New must be better, right?
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 08:02:16 am »
Call me what you want...prophet, whatever :peepwall: but the 1200GS (air/oilhead) will never loose it's value in SA
 

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 08:42:40 am »
Value is determined by supply and demand.

BMW is in a lot of cases 'n fashion accessory and as such a lot of the currant bikes will be dropped in favour of having the New! Lastest! bike.

Supply of the currant model will go up (and there are a LOT). Demand will go down.
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 08:56:26 am »
I reckon it will depend on how good the new bike is.if it is really good the old ones might lose a little,if kark the old ones might gain a bit of value.
I think the same will happen to KTM.
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 09:16:09 am »
Value is determined by supply and demand.

BMW is in a lot of cases 'n fashion accessory and as such a lot of the currant bikes will be dropped in favour of having the New! Lastest! bike.

Supply of the currant model will go up (and there are a LOT). Demand will go down.

Agreed, its a fashion statement / its the show of who's got the most money.

Example: 2009 GSA with the whole catalog af bmw add ons and gps and what what all mostly k@k on.... used for commuting to work, never seen dirt, never did more than 200km on a single day. WTF

Also I must add that some guys actually use the bike as you are suppose to-  respect
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 09:37:23 am »
Value lost already. Sold to many to make them a rare find. A pyramid scheme as far as I can tell, last in last out= losses  :deal:
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 09:18:32 pm »
look what happened to the 1150, still available at about 45k, the 2004 1200 at about 65k, if the euro is going to stay strong I recon the new bikes will be expensive and if you are in the market for a pre 2010 model for about a 100k you will prolly be safe, no point buying a 2012 now, no matter what the deal, IMHO
 

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 09:37:25 pm »
Usual BS about BM fashion accessory- besides high jacking the thread it ignores the facts that the GS is a reliable, comfortable, capable and immensely practical bike with fewer shortcomings than most. Yes it will lose value as all bikes do but will still be sought after by those who cant afford or dont see the value in the new BM.
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 09:45:42 pm »
Usual BS about BM fashion accessory- besides high jacking the thread it ignores the facts that the GS is a reliable, comfortable, capable and immensely practical bike with fewer shortcomings than most. Yes it will lose value as all bikes do but will still be sought after by those who cant afford or dont see the value in the new BM.


Aprilian nobody said it wasn't reliable, comfortable, capable etc. It is marketed as a Lifestyle / Fasion item so it will obviously attract those buyers as well.

The question was "Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?"

I said Value is determined by supply and demand and gave some examples. How is that a hijack?

You are a little too sensitive about your chosen fashion item brand methinks... The Aprilian doth protest too much. ;) :pot:
 

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2012, 10:04:56 pm »
[quote author=Ratt link=topic=109407.msg2132984#msg2132984 date

Agreed, its a fashion statement / its the show of who's got the most money.

Example: 2009 GSA with the whole catalog af bmw add ons and gps and what what all mostly k@k on.... used for commuting to work, never seen dirt, never did more than 200km on a single day. WTF

Also I must add that some guys actually use the bike as you are suppose to-  respect
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Erm, seems to me fairly biased not to mention ignorant of the fact that the GS is not exclusively supposed to be used in the wild and deepest Africa- it is a very versatile motorcycle and rather than a show of who's got the most money, some might say that it is a show of who has the better understanding of what one wants from a motorcycle. If its comfort, reliability, economy, pillion friendly, on and offroad cruising you desire (or even a commuter if youre doing fair mileage) it remains an excellent choice. I have a number of motorcycles of different makes - none compares to the GS in ease of use and general maintenance.

Bottom line - for a good while still it will be great choice and popular for many good reasons.
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2012, 10:15:33 pm »

Bottom line - for a good while still it will be great choice and popular for many good reasons.


That is true.

But will it lose value now that it's the older model? ;)
 

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2012, 10:38:03 pm »
In answer to thread title:
In my opinion the resale value of the 1200 GS has not been great for at least 3 years. Reasons include large number available, general financial climate and other factors incl bad press wrt pinging, KTM fashionability and other factors. I am sure that having a new engine will contribute to this depreciation.

However, I do think that there is a core of riders who will prefer the simpler, air cooled engine for at least a few years, which I think might offset this accelleration in depreciation to an extent. Time will tell!
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2012, 11:30:48 pm »
Yes and when the 300Kg "Adventure" eventually arrives .... the old Adventure will suddenly seems very light in comparison .... :pot:
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 06:47:58 am »
I think the real question and also hope from a number of riders is rather if this oilheads will now become available at bargain prices.....as we like bargains in SA. Its almost li scavangers sometimes waiting for the beast to fall so that they can feast....lol I do not think it will loos its money to that extend, it still is and always was a gr8 living legend. Yes I don't have one but I am not blind to identify value products. A bit honest hey?
 

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 07:27:54 am »
Supply will always decide, because there are so many GS's on the road, and for sale, one can often just look around for what suits him the best, it's not like if one comes up it gets snapped up straight away.....
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2012, 07:36:33 am »
BMW holds its value well.  Just look at the 1150 and 1100 - not to speak of the old airheads (R80GS etc.)...
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2012, 07:44:34 am »
The 1150 will hold value. Those were the best GS's IMO. And there are few pristine examples left. It's like hen's teeth. Supply & demand...

The 1200 on the other hand, there are examples on this very forum that does not sell.
 

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2012, 07:48:39 am »
Time will tell, of course.  I think the reason many 1200s don't sell is because the seller wants too much.  Also, there is a point where selling price becomes very relative...
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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2012, 08:07:46 am »
Die 1150 word baie gesog op die oomblik, en het 'n sterk gevolg in SA. Ek sien dat die eerste 1200's al vir dieselfde pryse (en in sekere gevalle selfs minder) as die 1150's verkoop.

Ek dink die ander probleem vir 1200 eienaars is net die verskriklike hoeveelhede wat verkoop is.Gaan kyk net op Bumtree, daar is honderde te koop op 'n permanente basis. Het ook gehoor dat die GS die grootste verkooper in SA is. Of was.

Die GS80's is BAIE gesog, en daar was nie verskriklik baie  van hulle verkoop nie. So gesog dat daar baie "scramblers" gebou word van ander modelle om die vraag op te maak.

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Re: Will the "old" 1200GS lose its value?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2012, 08:20:29 am »
Die 1150 word baie gesog op die oomblik, en het 'n sterk gevolg in SA. Ek sien dat die eerste 1200's al vir dieselfde pryse (en in sekere gevalle selfs minder) as die 1150's verkoop.

Ek dink die ander probleem vir 1200 eienaars is net die verskriklike hoeveelhede wat verkoop is.Gaan kyk net op Bumtree, daar is honderde te koop op 'n permanente basis. Het ook gehoor dat die GS die grootste verkooper in SA is. Of was.

Die GS80's is BAIE gesog, en daar was nie verskriklik baie  van hulle verkoop nie. So gesog dat daar baie "scramblers" gebou word van ander modelle om die vraag op te maak.


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