Wild Dog Annual Bash V BMW Eco Challenge

[lamo]

all i can say is David and coetzee put on an amazing Eco challenge , if you haven't been to a Eco , put it on your bucket list

[JonW]

all i can say is David and coetzee put on an amazing Eco challenge , if you haven't been to a Eco , put it on your bucket list

Why was this?

Is the Wild Dog Bash on your bucket list?

[Trailrider]

As for the endless debate about who's prepared to do what distance to get a bash, well win some lose some.

That begs another question, aren't there just too many events/bashes/rallies/parties to attend as it is?
 

Is the "national" bash any different from the others? What's different apart from the name and an "official" invite for all to attend? In reality all can attend all bashes. I could attend the NW bash if I wanted too, not?

I don't moan on a bash thread about the distance. There are many bashes to go to and I chose the ones that fit me. I also can't go to all, but two a year is enough for me to touch base.

Someone said somewhere the next Nat. Bash will be in the Cape somewhere?

[Snafu]

The WD bash is about the ride there and back, where the ECO is about the rides they offer.

I prefer the WD bash, since i have time to recover from my babbie

Or to make everyone happy, the WD bash is for the cheap skate ECO wannabe's

[ktmmer]

I dont like cucumber so please leave the bashes as is.

[lamo]

its on my list , wasn't able to go this year but im there next year for sure
any reason to ride my bike with my mates

[DUSTRIDERS]

The WD bash is about the ride there and back, where the ECO is about the rides they offer.

I prefer the WD bash, since i have time to recover from my babbie

Or to make everyone happy, the WD bash is for the cheap skate ECO wannabe's

Net so Snafu.

[Dwerg]

The WD bash is about the ride there and back, where the ECO is about the rides they offer.

 

Juis hoekom ek 'n bash verkies. Ek kan enige tyd bike ry maar ek kan nie enige tyd so lekker kuier soos by 'n bash nie

[Nimmo]

To each its own:

The BASH for me is getting there (doing a trip though unknown roads) and mingling with the keyboard people who inevitably become your friends, people you know...
The guys that want to hit the sauce do so, the others don't, but your are part of something bigger...

The ECO (first time this year) is about riding the routes and testing your abilities, strangely the guys I hanged out with were all dogs  
They made my ECO and the effort with setting up the routes were much appreciated.

Why want 2 similar events?  

I did enjoy both and have made up my mind to both again next year    

[JVR]

It is two different concepts.
We left for the ECo om the Wednesday and did gravel to Clocolan. Thursday we did a green route before we registered.Friday we did a Orange and on Saturday we did the other two Orange routes.
Late afternoon you get to the site have a few cold ones a nice meal,talk kak to a couple of buddies,watch the rugby or listen to Clint and co all for R 800.
Did a few bashes which was also nice,but there it was more about the "kuier" with fellow WD's.
The ECo happens once a year where as there are about four to five bashes a year,and then the national one.
So cost and time is also playing a roll.  
 

[White Rhino]

The ECO event targets a captive market ... existing owners of a large biking brand - that's where they get the numbers from. What is rather interesting is that most of the atendees were not WD members - well not visibly anyway. So there's still a huge troop of riders out there, many of them very capable off road riders as demonstrated by the participants in the skills challenge and those that did the more challenging routes.

Contrary to popular belief, there's no profit taking. I spoke to some of the organisers, BMW had to cough as well - but then again they get the branding and time on the stage. The various BMW clubs are the chief organisers behind the event with help from people like Coetzee, Paulie, friends and locals. Multiple routes were scouted out in advance (9 in total - 3 Green, 3 Orange, 1 Red and 2 Tar) and some technical areas rechecked before the event for people to enjoy over the two days.

The WD bashes are good social get togethers, in interesting locations. Facilites are good enough.
If we could include a few routes (diferent skills levels) and throw in some live entertainment for a few bob extra, add one extra day, it could make the event very enticing.

[bud500]

I have been to a few Bashes and like them just as they are. Can't comment on the Eco, but I attended a Rally Raid when it was still done by KTM and it turned out the same as a Bash, leka ride on the way there, attempted a route, got lost, got pissed, recovered and leka ride back home.

Biggest difference is at a Bash you "know" some online personalities.

Once I attended a HOG gathering in Colesburg...by accident.... Seemed like a lot of attendees there as well, although a lot more trailers....

[mountainboy]

Lastly - Have a "national" bash in the Western Cape and see the numbers swell. Why? Because people go to events thats attractive to attend. Almost all WC WD's will be there (which is already more than your last number) and a fair amount of WD's from the rest of the country will also make a plan to attend. People from up country like to visit the Cape and do so regularly.

Have a "national" bash in the Transvaal somewhere and see how little WC WD's attend, very few? Capies don't holiday there. Dislike that fact, criticize that fact, call it f-up. Cool. Won't change the fact though. I certainly won't ride to the Transvaal for a bash with the established good-value alternatives I have around here at the moment.

Not sure this helps. It's merely ramblings and thinking out loud. Dismiss the BS and take what you can use if any.

freakin racist!!!

racccciiiissssttttttttttttt!!!

[ButchH]

I did two bashes NW bash and helped with the FS bash. NW Bash is the bench mark. Lots goes into planning a bash and not everyone can be accommodated .Everyone has a different expectation if you want five star don’t attend a bash because you will find something to bitch about. I do prefer the more informal gathering like the long drop gathering we held at Draadkars place in Geluksburg a repeat of this will be held for New Year’s. At the informal gatherings there is live entertainment and at least a big sheep on the spit and those who want to get frot can do so in a safe environment. Whilst we have WD attending the Informal’s we don’t promote any forum, brand or club. So no Eco or bash (with the exception of the NW bash) but if any of the attendees who support what we are doing yes we will reciprocate if possible at the very least we will support them on the forum.

[Welsh]

For me the bashes are to go meet old friends, do a hard ride there, take the keys out and switch off, I do not go to a bash to ride whilest there I go to meet

[Stoetbul]

Manne, ek skryf Afrikaans die keer............ Seeing that everyone is doing it in Eng.
Wat staan uit van die Bashes:
1. Die befarkte paaie soontoe en terug. Soms met 'n Trailer, soms sonder 'n trailer.(COST'S)
2. Ek drink en rook en hou van vleis, so vir my is die Bashes sommer bitter bedonnerd want baie manne/dames gooi 'n doppie en tjoppie saam met my en die wat nie drink nie kom ook altyd hallo se'.
3. Vriende.......... Ek het in die laaste klompie jare vriende gemaak hier wat ek sal saamvat oorlog toe.
4. Nog nooit was ek al op 'n bash waar die ablusie nie voldoende was nie. As ek nie kon stort nie het ek sommer geswem by die waar rivier/dam naby was.
5. Die kak praat........ Ek ruil dit vir niks
6. Die lag........... Dit gebeur onophoudelik en soms ten koste van myself.
7. Kontakte wat gemaak word het my al gereeld uitgehelp.
8. Die koste van hierdie Bashes het my sak nog altyd gepas al moes ek sny a.g.v sommige afstande op die drank inname.
9. Die organisasie van die Bashes was nog altyd PUIK, hoe minder reels hoe beter soos Veldtie gese' het pas my ook. Was lank genoeg op skool/Varsity

Dis my eerlike opinie en ek sal soveel moontlik in die toekoms ook bywoon. Sou graag die Eco ook wou doen maar hulle gattie my fiets daar like nie, maar ons groep is deel van Donford Motorrad so dalk kry ek dit reg om 'n bike by hulle te skollie en self te gaan ervaar hoe dit is.

[DUSTRIDERS]

Goeie post Stoetie maar iets klop nie.
Ek kan glo jy was op skool maar varsity?!!!!!!!

Trek sommer jou been mater

[Stoetbul]

Goeie post Stoetie maar iets klop nie.
Ek kan glo jy was op skool maar varsity?!!!!!!!

Trek sommer jou been mater

Sport Sielkunde my pappa, pasop nou! Die dat ek 'n man so gou kan opsom.

[Gee S]

I attended both and each was a 1st for me.
The National Bash was more or less what I expected it to be and I would keep the format the same.
For me the trip down to the bash and back was more about the ride and we had six days to do it in. I do not party very hard and if I did not go on a ride the days would have been very long and boring. The camping area was very nice and the ablution blocks were clean and always had hot water. The braai packs and bykosse was very good and most could not finish all the meat in one sitting. The big barn where everything happened was also a winner in the cold and rainy conditions we experienced. I heard a lot of people complaining about the breakfast rolls( 2 x Rolls with egg, bacon and relish) we received. But I would take that above not getting breakfast every time.

The BMW ECO was an eye opener for me as I was expecting something along the lines of the NB.
We again had a nice route to the ECO. The camping was nice and  the ablutions were clean with fulltime hot water. The food tasted like it was home made and it never had that made for six hundred people tastelessness, and there was more than enough to go around.
Clint and Co and Ghapi provided some great entertainment, especially on Saturday night when we sat around the fire and they had a few sing alongs and improvised a few songs. There were quite a few guys who did not go for rides and just drank the days and nights away without any complaints from the organisers or any one else as far as I know. Although everything is organised I never had the feeling of being forced to stick to someone Else's routine and you could do whatever you wanted whenever you wanted. The ECO is definitely in a different class than the NB but considering the high entrance fees and the number of participants it better be. After attending my 1st ECO I now understand why people rave about it and why it is oversubscribed every year

I will definitely try to attend both again next year. As for the distance to a bash I dont care. If I can afford it I will go otherwise I stay at home

[ETS]

Goeie post Stoetie maar iets klop nie.
Ek kan glo jy was op skool maar varsity?!!!!!!!

Trek sommer jou been mater

Sport Sielkunde my pappa, pasop nou! Die dat ek 'n man so gou kan opsom.

P@@s p@@s-- Hoooeeee hoooeeee