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Offline Beemer Man (RIP)

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #200 on: October 24, 2007, 03:51:40 pm »

He fitted an aftermarket pipe and a Power Commander to a brand new GS 1200 and rode the crap out of it for almost 3,000 kms in 5 days.

How long has the Power Commander for the Gs1200 been available ?


Quite a while actually - official term is the Wunderlich Performance Controller, cost is around R 3800.00 fitted, I have had 5 1200GS's and am on my 9th Adventure, no bleats no kak and all pretty kwik. The one that Colyn was talking about - I just took on the SA Biking Tri-Track Tour (blerry awesome trip I might add)
and I literally did ride absolutely balles to the walles for 2 500 Kms including three different track days, as I said no mess - no fuss and 114 bhp and 103 nM on the dyno. Total work done, "Blue" airfilter, Wunderlich Headers & Hurric pipe and the Perfomance Controller, (same as Power Commander) Contact Auto Alpina 011 418 3300
Not too shabby hey Nige!



Just remember guys you will loose any BMW warranty with this fitted, I spoke to Denver Biggs some time ago about this.!!!

Even if it is fitted at a BMW dealer, as in this case?

Makes no difference, Denver had one in his ADV and was told  to remove it or no warranty, I also remember something about BM was telling dealers that if they fitted this unit the serial numbers  of the bikes needed to be given to the to verify the warranty status. I will try and find Denvers reply to me and post.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #201 on: October 24, 2007, 03:55:21 pm »
Found it.


Hi Craig,

 

An issue has developed about the Performance Controller that we have fitted where BMW SA are now cancelling the Warrantee on the bikes that the unit has been fitted to. It is one of those typical non-investigatory decisions that the are famous for, but the are the ruling body and ??no correspondence shall be entered unto?..?

We can fit it, they cost R 3 760 fitted but it does exclude your warrantee.

 

 

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #202 on: October 24, 2007, 07:00:45 pm »
So why then does he advertise it here of all places? Just where we had a STANDARD 1200 blow up?
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #203 on: October 24, 2007, 07:49:18 pm »


Just remember guys you will loose any BMW warranty with this fitted, I spoke to Denver Biggs some time ago about this.!!!

Is this true for Germany itself as well, why would a German company sell a chip which invalidates the warranty for a German motorcycle? ???
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #204 on: October 24, 2007, 08:26:08 pm »
Hi Guys,

Oh how I long for Delortto's, (even Bing's) points, condensers and conventional coils.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #205 on: October 25, 2007, 08:31:48 am »
COME NOW......all you guys that officially represent BMW, find this dude a farking GSA!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D 
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #206 on: October 25, 2007, 09:15:40 am »


Just remember guys you will loose any BMW warranty with this fitted, I spoke to Denver Biggs some time ago about this.!!!

Is this true for Germany itself as well, why would a German company sell a chip which invalidates the warranty for a German motorcycle? ???

In Germany they only sell the chip under the counter. Next to the hardcore porn mags
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BTW: I am sure that something like the power controller does not only void your warranty in Germany but also your T?V / roadworthiness (which might have much more severe consequences).
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #207 on: October 25, 2007, 10:20:27 am »
I am becoming a BMW fan all over again!! ;D ;D

Just got back from my friendly BM dealer for the daily update!

Lachlan Harris called the local manager today confirming that my bike will be replaced with a new one as soon as they find one to send to Windhoek! 

Wow, sofar so good! ;)


Good one, Davy. And rain in Windhoek... things are looking up.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #208 on: October 25, 2007, 05:04:17 pm »
Is this true for Germany itself as well, why would a German company sell a chip which invalidates the warranty for a German motorcycle? ???


In Germany they only sell the chip under the counter. Next to the hardcore porn mags
 :D

BTW: I am sure that something like the power controller does not only void your warranty in Germany but also your T?V / roadworthiness (which might have much more severe consequences).

You obviously have inside info  ;D ;D ;D Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #209 on: October 26, 2007, 01:40:56 pm »
Hey Beemer man,why do you wanna talk or did talk to Denver Biggs if his a member of the dawgs.....do your homework ;) ;) ;)
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #210 on: October 26, 2007, 02:20:03 pm »
 I also have a 1200 GS bought in April 2007 and have 4300 km on the clock. Is it possible to see what the engine numbers are of the faulty bikes so as to ensure I don't have one.

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #211 on: October 26, 2007, 02:41:20 pm »
Hi Ross

I??m in the same boat as you, I bought mine in July and it now has almost 7000k's on the clock. Think there r a whole lot of people waiting for some kind of recall before our motors blow up.

My main concern is what damage is being done while we wait and IF a patch is found will my bike still have the reliability and be able to do the high mileage I bought it for especially once the warranty is up?  ???

 

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #212 on: October 26, 2007, 03:13:33 pm »
Ross, F&V,

See below the response of Rob Holder of BMW Motorrad.  It seems from that statement that they are not sure which bikes are affected!

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. . . The reason we have continued to sell the Boxer Engine models is that the problem has occurred in a very small numbers of these units and it is not clearly definable as to the production dates within which the problem occurs. . . .

Well even with BMW now prepared to replace my bike, it now seems I will only get one sometime in (perhaps) January 2008!  Apparently there is NOWHERE any to be found!  I can hardly believe that . . .

Again, I don't want to be pushy, but hey, there's a whole flippen holiday ahead and I had some plans for that white bike! >:(

So I guess I will start to phone around the dealerships and see if I cannot help them find one a bit sooner!
 

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #213 on: October 26, 2007, 05:47:07 pm »
On my way out earlier today I passed a vehicle towing a trailer.
On the trailer were two long rectangular cardboard twatwaffle's

These twatwaffle's had BMW stuff written on them

These twatwaffle's were going in the direction of Menlyn Motorrad

Maybe, just maybe Menlyn has what you are looking for - Contact them
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #214 on: October 26, 2007, 10:42:10 pm »
Called everyone of them . . . niks!
 

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #215 on: October 26, 2007, 10:50:06 pm »
Called everyone of them . . . niks!

Did u try Sovereign...????
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #216 on: October 27, 2007, 07:16:16 am »
'Nother option, it takes 6 weeks to ship a crate in from Germany, if BMW gets it's act together ans SHIPS one in, you can be sorted before Xmas. We all know it CAN be done, question is WILL BMW do this?
PS, make sure you only register it in January.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #217 on: October 27, 2007, 07:55:56 am »
On my way out earlier today I passed a vehicle towing a trailer.
On the trailer were two long rectangular cardboard twatwaffle's

These twatwaffle's had BMW stuff written on them

These twatwaffle's were going in the direction of Menlyn Motorrad

Maybe, just maybe Menlyn has what you are looking for - Contact them

I saw couple of dozen of those twatwaffle,S arriving at Lyndhurst on Thursday, all containing KK Bikes!!!!
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #218 on: October 27, 2007, 12:04:53 pm »
Just for the record ... country orders to the factory is roughly 10 weeks in advance ... so although GSA's are rolling of the assembly line daily ... they have been made for orders that were placed months earlier.

From what I know ZA places orders for numbers of specified models almost 6 months in advance and then as the time approach they can spec details like colours etc.

With high in demand units like the GSA you will only get preference if someone else should cancel his order or a dealer is willing to shaft one of his other clients. The 1200 GS's do not sit on Showroom floors.

If you go to a dealer and ask for a bike he usually can tell you when he expects his next model of what you are looking for because dealers also pre-order.

Bottomline is this ... if Lifestyle tells you they cannot get a bike for you the chances of a dealer getting one is very remote because Lifestyle knows where every one of the units that are unsold is.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #219 on: October 27, 2007, 07:45:50 pm »
I beg to differ there Colyn, Lifestyle didn't know about this engine failure problem........I recall someone here enwuiring at Lifestyle about this problem before taking delivery of his GSA.... ;D ;D ;D
They don't apparently know how kak the 1200GS discs are either....... >:D >:D
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